12:41 pm February 24, 2010, by David O'Brien
February 25th, 20109:50 am
Cold but very sunny day here at Dark Star by ESPN Inc. Postseason weather (or college football weather). We’re ready to watch some batting practice….
Talked to Roger McDowell about Jurrjens. They’re cautiously optimistic, but not out of the woods with him and the shoulder. He had “minimal pain” throwing from 90 feet yesterday.
February 25th, 20109:56 am
I’m not quite sure why, but there are about five times as many Japanese reporters and photographers here today. Photographers especially. It looks like the postseason around the dugout now, there are so many photogs and TV crews down there waiting for the Braves to come out. Weird.
Oh, and Baseball Tonight is here today, with their crew of, oh, dozens. they’ve got a LOT of people to make that show go.
February 25th, 20109:59 am
CBS Sportsline has Hinske/Diaz platoon in LF with Schafer starting in RF. Heyward and Cabrera on the bench and only Infante as the backup middle infielder. I think this is pretty interesting but, they have McLouth leading off and Schafer batting 8th.
Francoeur must be planning to really capitalize on those three games @ Yankee Stadium in June.
February 25th, 201010:00 am
Perhaps the Japanese reporters came to cover Mr. Toyoda on Capitol Hill, and then swung down to Florida for some spring training action.
February 25th, 201010:01 am
Also, the bullpen is rounded out with Chavez and Dunn, no Proctor.
February 25th, 201010:02 am
DOB..Please tell Bobby Valentine (Baseball Tonight) that Ours RF Rockie Name Is Jason Heyward not Heywood.
February 25th, 201010:06 am
CBS Sportsline has Hinske/Diaz platoon in LF with Schafer starting in RF. Heyward and Cabrera on the bench and only Infante as the backup middle infielder. I think this is pretty interesting — thinbreakness
I think it’s interesting only in that every single one of those things is incorrect (hard to do) and anyone would actually care to pay attention to one of those things. Entirely bogus.
Yeah Wayne, while it would (and does) suck to have to do baseball activities, including covering it, with temps in the 30-40 range, it was 0 degrees when I posted my response to DOB. It has now risen up to 2 degrees. LOL
So I’d take a wind-chill in the mid 30’s right now. Sad thing is, I took the garbage out after dropping kids off at school and had no coat on and thought to myself that it wasn’t that bad out. No wind today. Pretty much makes all the difference in the world around here.
February 25th, 201010:07 am
Obviously CBS doesn’t know baseball, or anything else but football and college.
Bobby Valentine showed what he knows while at the Mets. (notice he hasn’t gotten another management job).
February 25th, 201010:08 am
Just thought it was interesting wasn’t investing myself in the validity or editorializing about what I read.
February 25th, 201010:12 am
ESPN been in Orlando all thid week..The Mike & Mike show this week celebrating there 10 year together, Bebaseball Tonight (It’s not tonight)because the Show Air today at 3:30 from the Braves Camp.
February 25th, 201010:18 am
The last place Heyward or Schafer will be is on any bench. If they are not starting for the Braves, they will be starting in the minor leagues.
If we assume Heyward is going to break camp with the Braves in RF, I am very curious what is going to happen in LF. I thought Diaz proved last year that he deserves a chance to play every day. This is a problem because the only player on the team out of options is Melky Cabrera.
It seems to me that the Braves would like to find at bats for Melky so, if he performs well, they can move him. Maybe a platoon in LF with Diaz hitting of LHP and Melky playing against RHP?
February 25th, 201010:20 am
Just looking up some stats because Schultz is doing something on Lowe. I know it’s been mentioned, but it’s been a while: Do you all realize that the only qualifying pitcher in the majors last year with a higher opp batting average than Lowe (.301) was Livan Hernandez (.308)?
And the only NL pitcher with a higher opp OBP than Lowe (.355) was also Livan (.363).
Mock Bobby Valentine all you want (and believe me, I do too, because it’s fun and easy to do – especially with that voice). But it’s hard to deny that him putting on the glasses with the fake mustache isn’t one of the funniest moments that a manager has created in my lifetime.
Next to Lou Pinella trying to kick his hat (and missing) while Griffey Jr. and Buhner were laughing at him in the dugout, that has to be my favorite.
So he’s got that goin’ for him….. which is nice.
February 25th, 201010:23 am
Could we PLEASE shut Jurrjens down until ALL of the inflamation and tendonitis is gone? It makes A LOT more sense to have him a few weeks behind other starters and be a healthy 100% thereafter. They are instead rushing him back and increasing the probability that this thing will linger and bother him until he does permanent damage to the shoulder that would end his entire 2010 season and jeopardize his career. The kid is way too good to allow that happen. Sacrifice a couple of starts and wins now. The alternative would be far worse.
Was Valentine just doing that as a joke, or did he really think he would fool people and not get caught on camera?
thinbreakness: understood. Wasn’t bashing you, honestly. Just amazes me that anyone gives a rat’s behind about depth charts on cbssportsline or places like that. 99 percent of the denizens here could put out a far more accurate portrayal of the depth chart at any given time during the offseason or spring training than most of those sites produce. Seriously.
February 25th, 201010:25 am
TennesseePaul…”As to Andy Marte, he wasn’t around long enough for me to get too hyped about him”
Were you conscious in 2004 and 2005? The dude was one of those “can’t miss” prospects for two whole years (BA had him #11 and #9 in consecutive years).
YE19 – The trainers are professionals, and they know what they’re doing and how to handle this (I assume)
Voice of Harold
February 25th, 201010:26 am
Re: Raising Arizona
Edwina’s insides were a rocky place where my seed could find no purchase.
February 25th, 201010:28 am
ahh thanks for the reminder on BBT, since it comes on in the afternoon, instead of … tonight….I’m glad direct tv has online dvr control or I would have missed it.
a statement like this one from francouer: “I have an approach, I have an idea now.”
shows that one, he was probably brought up too early, and 2 he should have been left in the minors for awhile when he was sent down in 08.
Haulin' the Tarp
February 25th, 201010:29 am
Is Salcedo going to work out with the team down in Orlando? I believe I read he had the physical down there or will have it there?
February 25th, 201010:30 am
YE19, tendinitis from pitching is a funny thing. More often than not, you just have to pitch through it until it goes away. Even if he shuts down completely today, the tendinitis will come back as soon as he starts throwing again regardless of how long he takes off.
You are correct sir. An example to support your argument. I was looking at some depth charts on Yahoo baseball (which usually isn’t this bad) in preps for fantasy baseball planning.
On the Braves depth chart they currently have Jo Jo Reyes as the 5th starter and Kawakami listed in the bullpen. And, they don’t show O’Flaherty in the bullpen. They have Acosta and Dunn listed in the bullpen in one of the spots where O’Flaherty will proabably be. And last but not least, they have Prado listed as the backup 2nd baseman and Infante as the starter.
I found it all humorous.
DOB…Why do you say DarkStar?
February 25th, 201010:32 am
Again, just read it and it made little sense to me, especially with Schafer batting 8th and Heyward on the bench, or Schafer even being in Atlanta on opening day. I will say that the notion of a Hinske/Diaz platoon was interesting, not every day of course, just the possibility.
N8 – That was a hoot with Bobby V. I was watching that game. My question is Who keeps a fake mustach laying around just in case you need one?
February 25th, 201010:34 am
Were you conscious in 2004 and 2005?
No. I came to right around the time Joey Devine gave up that 18th inning homer…. but that was just me rolling over in my grave.
Looks like we’re gonna have a little PFP (pitchers’ fielding practice) before BP today, folks.
And it starts with Wagner on the mound, hustlng to field a bunt and throw to first. They use him to start because the dude does it right….
February 25th, 201010:36 am
Andy, I don’t say DarkStar. I say Dark Star, with a space.
February 25th, 201010:37 am
I’m sorry to those bloggers offended by my CBS Sportsline post. If this is much less interesting than the lineups of fantasy baseball teams or the prodigious lineup changes to the 2010 Braves, I am truely sorry.
February 25th, 201010:38 am
No hating here if you were referring to me. I was just giving an example of DOB’s point. I don’t care what you post.
February 25th, 201010:39 am
Rotoworld does a solid job with their depth charts.
Right now they have Heyward not as a starter but he does have to earn it, doesn’t he?
If you’re looking for a depth chart as of today, that’s not a bad place to check out.
February 25th, 201010:42 am
“ahh thanks for the reminder on BBT, since it comes on in the afternoon, instead of … tonight….I’m glad direct tv has online dvr control or I would have missed it.” – RHR
And thank you for reminding me I could do that. On my phone even. I was already wondering if I could catch a repeat later tonight.
DOB…why do you say Dark Star with a space?
February 25th, 201010:44 am
That Rotoworld depth chart is pretty spot on. Nice find there. Interesting to see how this all shapes out. Schafer’s speed would be a nice addition to this team if he could ever get on track and healthy.
February 25th, 201010:54 am
dpelfrey: Regarding prospects, “can’t miss” or not. Salty was highly regarded. Francoeur was only a few notches below Marte. Todd Van Poppel was a top 7 prospect three straight years. Mix all those together and you have a nice sobering reminder that prospects aren’t all they are hyped to be.
I enjoy it when my team has a lot of hyped prospects. But I don’t buy into the hype as much as some. Even with Heyward, I’m more than willing to wait and see what he actually does. There is a lot of wind at his back and I truly hope he catches it and succeeds in the majors. I will be disappointed if he doesn’t. But Marte, even with his hype, never struck me as a Heyward type of guy.
February 25th, 201010:55 am
DOB: Please answer Andy Stowe. Poor guy has been posting same question for days now. (Andy-have to admire how relentless you’ve been)
MFin04: Been using them for years and years now.
February 25th, 201011:00 am
DOB, anyone telling Prado to watch out while taking grounders during BP?
February 25th, 201011:02 am
DOB when do we plan on having players on the blog for some questions?
Wags would be cool.
February 25th, 201011:03 am
Rotoworld has Buddy Carlyle on their list.
February 25th, 201011:05 am
Wow that went in a big circle. That was actually the point of my original post that started this whole discussion. Go back and read it on page 2 at 3:41 pm. Funny how that happens.
February 25th, 201011:08 am
and for maybe my favorite scene in the movie (there were a lot of great ones)
[an old convict and H.I. lying on their prison bunks, passing the time]
Ear-Bending Cellmate: …and when there was no meat, we ate fowl and when there was no fowl, we ate crawdad and when there was no crawdad to be found, we ate sand.
H.I.: You ate what?
Ear-Bending Cellmate: We ate sand.
H.I.: You ate SAND?
Ear-Bending Cellmate: That’s right!
February 25th, 201011:10 am
I too would like DOB to answer Andy Stowe’s question. I’ve been reading this blog for over a year and any time someone asked that question they get treated like they are not apart of an elite club that knows this inside secret. Never seen an answer from anyone. Maybe I missed it.
Guys..Guys…you don’t going to have an answer from DOB about Dark Star…samo ,samo last year…This stadium every year have a different name…”Cracker Jack”,Champion,ESPN…Where ever..Is in Disney Property.
February 25th, 201011:11 am
dpelfrey: May the circle be unbroken.
I still wasn’t as sold on Marte as others, even with the hype. And that group of “baby braves” didn’t have a ton of guys I expected to be stars. Like I said minus McCann, four or five disappointments, the rest … eh.
February 25th, 201011:13 am
TennesseePaul.. I have one other note regarding Todd Van Poppel, he was ALL hype. He didn’t have any minor league performance to back it up. He was walking guys like crazy from day one. At least Marte put up some pretty respectable stats for a 2-3 year period to justify some of his hype.
February 25th, 201011:14 am
Hey DOB I’ll be in the area tonight and I heard the Braves are doing a night session of BP tonight. Any truth to this rumor? Thnaks man, you are the best!
February 25th, 201011:15 am
There may be a homicide in my office today, if I get arrested I trust that you all will set me up with a flat screen and mlb extra innings package in my cell?
February 25th, 201011:16 am
ANDY:…here your Answer
“Dark Star” is a song released as a single by the Grateful Dead. It was written by lyricist Robert Hunter and composed by lead guitarist Jerry Garcia; however, compositional credit is sometimes extended to include Phil Lesh, Bill Kreutzmann, Mickey Hart, the late Ron “Pigpen” McKernan, and Bob Weir. “Dark Star” was an early Grateful Dead classic and became one of their most loved and anticipated numbers, often with the group using it as a vehicle for musical improvisation sessions that extended beyond the original structure of the song. The song is included in The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame’s 500 Songs that Shaped Rock and Roll list.
TommyP…maybe you should not speak with not knowing the facts. I have asked that question just today. I asked this morning and he didn’t answer after answering several other questions…then I asked again and he said he says Dark Star not Darkstar so I asked again. Do not write stuff if it isn’t true TommyP.
February 25th, 201011:17 am
And the occasional bottle of wine. I need to think of a circumstance where I could get fed time so I could go to one of those “camps”. Maybe I’ll embezzle some money THEN cut her.
February 25th, 201011:21 am
Hey Lady..(RHR)..Don’t worry you have Direct TV now in all Prison..Thanks to The Bill of Right.
February 25th, 201011:22 am
Is there any sort of Braves Live show that comes on at this point in the year? Maybe on FSS or Peachtree?
February 25th, 201011:24 am
Andy Stowe: LOL Dude, I was trying to help you out. Maybe it wasn’t you that has asked for a few days now but someone else. Whomever it is, it’s been politely asked over and over without getting rude or impatient.
I was complimenting you. LOL
I will no longer speak, Andy Stowe. At least regarding/referring to you.
February 25th, 201011:25 am
I’ve always liked the imagery of:
Dark Star = black hole = Disney’s inescapable gravitational pull that will suck the life & light right out of you.
Never really thought about the Grateful Dead angle.
We need Peppridge Blog Remembers (sic) to dig up the original coining. I can’t seem to get back into the archives that far anymore.
I really wish I hadn’t gone to bed last night before all of the “Guading Tess” talk took off … I just went back and tried to catch up on the conversation I missed, and would like to just throw in my two cents real quick, then it can be dropped … or not …
Heath —– I’m in my 20s too
DOB —– How did you feel about “Bringing Out The Dead”, “The Family Man”, “Honeymoon in Vegas”?
And re: “Guarding Tess” —– not a bad movie, but let’s be real here, it had one or two gut-buster moments, and they both involved Cage’s phone conversations with the “president”
February 25th, 201011:29 am
Wish you had caught my post a couple weeks ago regarding tickets…they open up single game tix to season ticket holders a week or two b4 the general public so I coulda gotten them for you without the stubhub fees/markup.
February 25th, 201011:42 am
DARK STAR LYRICS
Dark star crashes, pouring its light into ashes.
Reason tatters, the forces tear loose from the axis.
Searchlight casting for faults in the clouds of delusion.
Shall we go, you and I while we can
Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds?
Mirror shatters in formless reflections of matter.
Glass hand dissolving to ice petal flowers revolving.
Lady in velvet recedes in the nights of good-bye.
Shall we go, you and I while we can
Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds?
Garret to the A
February 25th, 201011:43 am
Wuz up people! Just chillin on the couch waiting on my agent’s call for a jobby job….the A-T-L might be needing me back to serve as a bench guy/platoon. As long as I get to do plenty of chillin on the bench my self and I are cool. Just won’t do much runnin these days with my bad knees. G to the A says to Keep It Real!
February 25th, 201011:47 am
RHR:…Did you work in an Office?…If you do..My recomendation is to get a pool of yours co-worker and buy 2 or three seat season ticket,then also you have the opportunity to add more single ticket if you wish.
Garret to the A: your being a loaf just like always
February 25th, 201011:51 am
Why do you post what Bobby Cox says about any player when everyone knows that it is meaningless.
Also, his praising these very low BA, low OBA, high Strike Out young prospects just because they hit a few home runs is what is wrong with the Braves now – failing to teach, emphasize, demand making consistant solid contact, high BA and OBA.
“Loaf”? Who made that up man, who made that up? HaHaHa! That’s some good stuff right there! I heard somebody yell that out to me in Atlanta last year when I was in the OF. Kind of confused me then, but I think it refers to my manner on the field. Yo, I’m just a laid back Cali guy, that’s all.
February 25th, 201011:56 am
My breath is tart
Sort of, Gil. I’m an industrial nurse so I have my own office area but I interact with others all day. My office is on the same floor as all the business offices and the plant is below. I only know of maybe a dozen braves fans here, that go to games, plus, we’re too far away for season tickets to be feasible since most of us who go to games only go on the weekends.
February 25th, 201011:57 am
Rehire Random 4:02am
We need Peppridge blog remembers 11:25am
Random – You just run out of shogun shells? Ohisashiburi desu.
yes, Don, that would be why the Braves were 4th in the league in BA, and 5th in OBP.
Geez, what a nimrod.
February 25th, 201012:01 pm
Don…”Why do you post what Bobby Cox says about any player when everyone knows that it is meaningless.”
Why do you post the same thing over and over again when everyone knows that it is meaningless.
I know I shouldn’t bother, but I couldn’t resist.
February 25th, 201012:03 pm
I wish Don’s posts were as fun as Paul L or Random’s. All of Don’s posts are the exact same. You know what they say about he definition of Insanity: posting the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
February 25th, 201012:08 pm
you know what causes my insanity? folks posting the definition of insanity over and over.
Petty just announced a North American tour … he and the Heartbreakers will have a number of opening acts, including Joe Cocker, Crosby Stills and Nash, and My Morning Jacket … I make an annual trip to Cleveland every year, cause my girlfriend’s family lives up there … the same week we were planning to go this year, Petty and Co. will be there … care to take a stab at the opening act? DBT … that’s just gross (gross, of course, being unbelievably awesome!)
February 25th, 201012:09 pm
Cram it DAP
February 25th, 201012:12 pm
There is also a DARK STAR ORCHESTRA that plays song sets used by the Grateful Dead.
February 25th, 201012:17 pm
Andy Stowe, I think DOB stops answering the question about Dark Star seriously anymore is because he’s answered it at least 10 times each Spring Training. It’s just his nickname for Orlando/Disney and his disdain for many aspects of the place. That’s it, though I’m sure people will continue to ask the same question over the next month or so.
February 25th, 201012:38 pm
Hey Lady..(RHR)..Don’t worry you have Direct TV now in all Prison..Thanks to The Bill of Right. (jerseygil)
Bill of Rights or just simply crowd control?
February 25th, 201012:41 pm
Don isn’t insane. Just boring. In this forum, that’s a much worse condemnation, LOL.
Don’t worry you have Direct TV now in all Prison
Yeah, but do they get Extra Innings?!?
February 25th, 201012:48 pm
Another prediction, not that anyone cares.
Cashman will be kicking himself for taking the flyball pitcher (Vazquez) instead of the groundball pitcher (Lowe). This ones for nolie, and it is half-hearted so don’t hate me.
February 25th, 201012:49 pm
Extra Innings is pretty cool. I don’t know if it’s worth the money, but it’s a nice package.
February 25th, 201012:54 pm
How many games a year do you get to make. I only make 15-20 a year but I am still able to make a full season ticket plan work by partnering with other people who want tickets (as Gil suggested) and other benefits being a season ticket holder allows you to do. If you want to email me let me know and I can explain to you how it works.
February 25th, 20101:00 pm
anybody that puts Heyward on the Braves bench has fallen off their rocker and should be fired from any professional baseball reporting company. How often do top, young, prospects get called to the majors at the start of the season only to ride the bench? Any fan would know that the top young prospect such as Heyward will play everyday, in the majors or in the minors, but he will play so he can develop.
February 25th, 20101:04 pm
New blog, people.With lyrics and all.
Move on now.
February 25th, 20101:18 pm
As far as prospects go, I am a bit of a hugger, not to Shanksian level….But the thing I remembermost about Marte was that a couple of times he crushed a ball and it was caught on the warning track..He just didn’t seem to have the pop that some of the other guys had…The two biggest disappointments out of that group to me were KJ, who I hoped would get past the streakiness, and Kyle Davies…Anyone remember the gem he pitched in the cold up at Fenway…
I believe the biggest difference between Heyward and just about all off our hyped prospects (going back to Tony Tarasco, Mike Kelly, Jose Oliva, Andrew, Frenchie, Betemit and others) had a trouble controlling the strike zone and that was part of the reason they didn’t pan out…Chipper, McCann, Klesko, Furcal and to an extent KJ had a working knowledge of the strike zone….I’m not necessarily a Money Ball guy and I like a Scout’s Honor, but I do believe having some ability to discern a strike from a ball is an underrated skill that the Braves have not always valued as much as I would like…That’s the skill that I believe will allow Heyward to prosper earlier than some of these other guys…I think that’s why McCann will end up going down as one of the greatest offensive catchers in history, he puts the ball in place
February 25th, 20101:31 pm
For those who have posted here for awhile. Does Don come on here and say the same thing all year? The dude has been coming on here saying the same crap everyday for like 2 weeks.
February 25th, 20101:40 pm
Your explanation at 12:17 reminds me of the calls Skip Caray used to detest getting from people who didn’t realize he’d heard the same things a thousand times. A composite of the most irritating comments and questions might go something like this: “Hey, Skip, how you doin’? … Thanks for taking my call. … I’m a first-time caller, long-time listener….I”ve been listening to you for XX years and wanted to say ‘Thanks’ for all the great work you guys do. … Can you explain the infield fly rule?”
February 25th, 20101:52 pm
JTCobb, I remember once a caller commented on Chip Carey, who was a Mariners play-by-play guy at the time I think. Maybe Cubs. Anyway, the guy was mostly complimentary of Chip, and the Carey family as a whole, but he slipped up and said that Chip’s sense of humor wasn’t nearly as good as Skip’s. He said it in a kind of “it doesn’t matter, but Chip’s not quite as funny as you” way, but Skip lost it, as you might imagine. Even the infield fly rule rhubarbs don’t compare.
February 25th, 20101:53 pm
P’Cola, for as long as I’ve been reading the blog I’ve never seen Don post anything but that crap.
February 25th, 20102:34 pm
It is definitely worth the money for us out-of-towners. Much better watching on cable/dish compared to internet. You also have wider choice of games, which sometime could mean choice of commentators. Also normally they offer a discount of about 40$ if you sign up in 1st couple of weeks of the season.
February 25th, 20102:40 pm
Voice of Harold,
Yes, Skip was clearly more confortable broadcasting games than answering calls from fans.
February 25th, 20103:04 pm
There is a new blog up – headline is Diaz, Mr Amiable
February 25th, 20104:15 pm
the way he speaks of it implies he knew and left Schafer in. That’s the read I got. 38 Year
it has been discussed here a number of times. The reason Bobby said it was selfish is because Schafer did not tell anybody he was hurting badly. There is no way that they would have played him if they knew he was hurt badly.
February 25th, 20104:21 pm
I’ve heard noting but good things about it and I usually love the Coen boys movies… SID
I thought it was one of their lesser movies. anything by them is at least decent to good, but I haven’t cared ast much for the last two since No Country which I loved.
February 25th, 20104:41 pm
This ones for nolie, and it is half-hearted so don’t hate me. THICK
you’re probably right Thick. Lowe would likely have less trouble there than Javi will.fly ball pitchers pitching in small parks can be an incendiary combo
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