12:41 pm February 24, 2010, by David O'Brien
February 24th, 20108:42 pm
I feel very conflicted about Javi. GOV
he is a fly ball pitcher, and some are gonna go out. The Ted was a good park for him cause it kept more of the im. A guy like him has a tougher task in a hitters park than someone like Huddy who keeps the ball on the ground more. He pitched a year in Ariz and 3 in Chi both extreme hitters parks, and was at least league average ERA+ in those parkr, with one great year in Chi and shoul;d have had another if handled right. He will certainly revert to near league average in the NY stadium, but if he stayed here there is no reason to think he would not have had another good year-though likely more in the 120-125 ERA+ than the 143 he has in 09.
He’s not perfect, hr has his weaknesses, but he has pitched better the last 10 years than most are willing to see. He does have some confidence issues which is another reason he did well here, nobody can build up your confidence better than ol’ Booby.
February 24th, 20108:45 pm
How exactly is Schafer a wimp?
Glavine, Schmidt, Merker, Stanton, Millwood, Bedrosian, P Smith, O Perez, Wohlers, Marquis, Wainwright, Hanson, Medlen, Moylan……
straw man dude, I didn’t say anything about any of them, but times that number by about 10 and that’s how many didn’t make it. and I said nothing about it being the Braves fault. Get off your high horse.
His numbers here in 09 were only 4 ERA_ points under his next best year, but yoy are exactly the type of fan who keeps up that garbage against him you’re right, who cares?
February 24th, 20108:46 pm
Girardi seems like more of a positive manager than Guillen. It will be interesting to see how Javy does. I read one columnist who said he doesn’t think having Javy in the 4 spot will release the pressure.
February 24th, 20108:47 pm
Put down the scotch. You’re in a drunken rage. joe
I don’t drink and I’m not in a rage. You will have no doubt if you ever read me in a rage.
Andrew in PA
February 24th, 20108:49 pm
ATL signs Salcedo … a good move?
PM ETAtlanta Braves Top Email The Atlanta Braves have inked Dominican shortstop Edward Salcedo, giving him $1.6 million and will likely start him off in Class A ball.
Salcedo’s story started two summers ago when every team this side of Mars wanted the infielder, but serious questions ensued about his true age.
Those have apparently been resolved, as Salcedo has been cleared by MLB and will report to Spring Training for the Braves.
For a look at what Salcedo might bring to the table for Atlanta on the coming years, we look to our in-house talent evaluator, Keith Law.
Salcedo’s talent level
“The only consistent opinion on Salcedo among baseball people I talked to is that he’s going to hit, followed by the opinion that he’ll probably end up at third base. No one is sure at all of his age, other than a pervasive disbelief in the claim that he’s 18, which would have been consistent with the age in the fraudulent documents that he used to visit the US two-plus years ago when he agreed to terms with Cleveland. Salcedo had been mixed up with some locals the first time around who saw him as a meal ticket and nearly wrecked his career – although his level of involvement in the scam remains unknown – but as soon as he’s cleared to play Atlanta appears to have a prospect who’d immediately be top six or so in their system.”
NO MORE BOBBY
February 24th, 20108:50 pm
Schafer is listening to advice in his comeback?
Well he is listening to the wrong guy in that picture posted.
February 24th, 20108:52 pm
“I’ve always been pretty skeptical about Braves minor league pitchers cause so many have done well down there and fizzled up here.”
Maybe I just misread, but I figure every ML Club has a low success rate when it comes to pitching.
February 24th, 20108:53 pm
Anyone with experience in staining furniture?………I have to stain my bar and am a little aprehensive. I’ve sanded, cleaned, and taped it off, but it mocks me.
The first day of the trade I said he would have a great year here and explained exactly why, and guess what? that’s exactly what happened. All you need to be able to do is look past raw ERA which is park dependent and W/L numbers which are team dependent.
February 24th, 20108:54 pm
Randomly perusing baseball-reference:
Peter Moylan’s 174 ERA+ is the best of all Braves pitchers who have pitched 180+ innings as a Brave in the 130 something year history of the franchise.
Jair’s 134 ERA+ is the third best for Braves pitchers who have pitched 400+ innings as a Brave in franchise history.
February 24th, 20108:55 pm
So is this a joke or is he selling these himself on Ebay?
February 24th, 20108:56 pm
He only gritted it out for several weeks. I guess he was suppose to hit .200 or lower all year. I can tell by your comments that you aren’t a baseball player at least not a very good one. Because anyone whose played with a wrist problem knows how difficult it is to play with it. And it wasn’t just a sprain, It was broke.
February 24th, 20108:58 pm
russia needs to score before this period to have a chance
every ML Club has a low success rate when it comes to pitching.
which is why I am always skeptical I didn’t say it was only the Braves. But the Braves hype their MiLB pitching more than many teams and their minor league parks are mostly pitcher friendly which makes pitchers often look better than they would look in other places.
February 24th, 20109:00 pm
That comment by Wren Killed Us came across and half crazy and half mean-spirited jerk with a few half truths mixed in. Everyone was pretty quick to dismiss his comment, but there was some truth to what he said.
Signing Lowe last year was a mistake. I thought so then and I think so now. Wren wasn’t even interested in Lowe until he had missed out on Burnett, and after seeing Smoltz bolt for Boston, Wren was desperate for a big signing and some positive press. Kawakami pitched well last season, but there really was no justification for a three year $24 million contract. 8 million is a lot of money for a number 5 starter. As bad as that is $15 million for a number 4 starter is ever worse.
That money could certainly could have been better spent a year ago acquiring a legitimate first baseman, or left fielder. Lowe’s huge contract forced the braves to trade Vazquez this year, and will prevent them from acquiring other pieces for the next couple of years. In a few years as the Brave’s young players reach arbitration they are gonna have to make some tough choices. It would really suck if the Braves are unable to hold onto Jurrjens or Escobar because of Lowe’s bloated contract.
My bad Dude, when I read your comment it looked singularly directed to the Braves. I’m sorry man, just misinterpreted what you said.
February 24th, 20109:01 pm
Agreed…way too much money for Lowe and KK
February 24th, 20109:02 pm
KK only had one year in the majors. How can you judge that signing based on one year of work?
February 24th, 20109:05 pm
joerochester…………agreed. Dude got hurt then got banished. I can say without being wrong that he beat or held his own against most of the best pitching in the league.
February 24th, 20109:07 pm
THICK, going back and rereading I can see where you might have thought that. my poor wording
February 24th, 20109:10 pm
Furthermore, Lowe was not a 3rd/4th starter when signed. He is now because of the talent that surrounds him. Maybe he’ll pitch better with less pressure to be an ace.
February 24th, 20109:13 pm
Some more random baseball-reference:
Of the 44 players picked by the Braves in the 22nd round since 1965, only 3 reached the majors.
Only one reached the majors as a Brave – Tommy Hanson.
Only one reached the majors before their 30th birthday – Tommy Hanson.
February 24th, 20109:15 pm
I’m sure you’ve heard tons of BS, but like you’ve said in the past, what benefit is gained from downplaying your own talent. I bet the hype machine has led to many unbalanced trades.
February 24th, 20109:18 pm
Nolie, the statheads call the phenomenon of high pitcher washout “TINSTAAPP”.
There Is No Such Thing As A PItching Prospect.
I am not saying I don’t like KK…I am saying I don’t like KK at $8 mill as a 5th starter…and I don’t care how relaxed Lowe is…if you don’t think that $15/yr for Lowe at his age was a bit high, well, we will agree to disagree
February 24th, 20109:21 pm
Scarcity is what drives up the price of products. At the time there were no more pitchers worth signing. Would you rather the Mets had signed Lowe and the Braves Oliver Perez for 12 mill?
February 24th, 20109:24 pm
I’m not coming on here to bash your team. As a matter of fact, I’m a little worried. I think the Phills will win the east, but if the Braves hold on and win the wild card I feel my team will have trouble in a short playoff series against Atlanta. You guys pitching is solid while outside of Halladay I’m not so confortable.
Hamels worries me. So does Blanton,Happ,Moyer and Lidge you just don’t know.
I think Heyward is the real deal. He looks like Howard, maybe even a better all around player.
February 24th, 20109:25 pm
“Schafe last year unfortunately broke his hand, and played with it,” Cox said. “It really wasn’t fair to him. I was kind of selfish, I left him in there because of his defense. I thought we’d hit enough to get by.”
This comment bothers me. I thought Managers would put health, especially broken bones, above something like defense. I didn’t think they were that desparate… Maybe it’s good he is retiring.
February 24th, 20109:27 pm
JasoninFL……agreed on Lowe. However, the fan base was close to dumping the hotplate into the bathtub if a move wasn’t made. KK was a no. 1 in Japan. He proved his mettle to me with that gem he twirled against Halladay back in May. One of the best pitched games (by both) I’ve seen in a while.
There Is No Such Thing As A PItching Prospect GOV
yeah I’ve been using that kiddingly to draw a little comment for years. There is a kernel of truth in a tongue in cheek phrase.Gary Huckaby is credited with coining it
February 24th, 20109:28 pm
You think the Phillies will re-sign Werth?
Rob from SC
In all fairness to Hamels, I think last year, he was effected by all the October innings he pitched on the way to winning the World Series. Ssame thing happened to Verlander after the Tigers made that long run.
February 24th, 20109:29 pm
THICK the very first thing they teach you when you work for a team is not to fall in love with the talent. The fact that they play for your team should have no influence on what you think about them.
February 24th, 20109:32 pm
Now you understand how impressive 14 consecutive Division titles are. Imagine all the additional innings that were piled on the Braves staff during this run.
February 24th, 20109:33 pm
This comment bothers me. 38year
why? he never told anybody about it, Cox didn’t know or he would have sat him down right away.
Did UNC really wear silver uniforms tonight in “honor” of the 25th anniversary of Air Jordan shoes?
February 24th, 20109:34 pm
Scarcity is what drives up the price of products. At the time there were no more pitchers worth signing. Would you rather the Mets had signed Lowe and the Braves Oliver Perez for 12 mill? joe r
I agree with you
February 24th, 2010
Now you understand how impressive 14 consecutive Division titles are. Imagine all the additional innings that were piled on the Braves staff during this run.
I always understood how impressive all those Division Titles were. I just think young pitchers are treated like babies in the minor leagues.
February 24th, 20109:35 pm
That’s good business. But I’d imagine good business is also selling an inferior product and knowing what is a superior product.
February 24th, 20109:40 pm
is also selling an inferior product and knowing what is a superior product. THICK
true as long as you are impartial enough to know which is which. and the Braves have always done well in trading off guys who did not make it for better players.
February 24th, 20109:43 pm
Mixxo, our of curiosity I did a quick search for your comments over the past couple of months. Seems at least nine out of 10 had something in common: Bitterness.
High marks for consistency.
February 24th, 20109:44 pm
I just think young pitchers are treated like babies in the minor leagues. ROB
Guys bodies are still growing and developing at that age and it is still very easy and has happened very often to ruin a shoulder or other part beyond repair. Why would anybody take any unnecessary risk with such valuable and limited resources?
February 24th, 20109:46 pm
Don’t you build arm strength by throwing
Voice of Harold
February 24th, 20109:50 pm
The UNC unis were atrocious, but not nearly as atrocious as their guard play. And, they are way too small (as in skinny, or “narrow-a$$ed” as my coach used to say). I’m not sure next year will be much better unless the next class has a ball-handler and some beef.
That was my point about the Braves. I’m sure many organizations do it just as well, but the only team I follow are the Braves.
February 24th, 20109:52 pm
I think KK is in for a solid season, btw. Better run support, 3.50 ERA. I just like his make-up, and having Saito around is gonna be a big plus.
February 24th, 20109:53 pm
Is there good Asian food in Atlanta?
February 24th, 20109:54 pm
Eat Phillie, thanks for your comments. Regardless of the depth of your pitching staff, it’s been a long time since anyone’s seen an offense quite like the one you all have assembled in your friendly city.
Probably why we feel inadequate with ours. Like a girl with a C Cup longing for DDs.
Hopefully we’ll cobble together enough offense to give you guys a run for your money. And although the depth of our starting staff is obvious, I think people will miss just how deep our bullpen is. Good bench, too.
But, oh, to trot out Rollins, Victorino, Utley, Howard, Ibanez, Werth, Polanco every day…
to an extent sure, but not unnecessary stress throwing. Braves minors used to do a good bit of long toss under Leo’s helm. Don’t know if that is still done a lot now or not. Studies prove that too many innings pitched at too young an age raises the chances of injury. Doesn’t happen to everybody obviously, but it does make the odds worse. Once they reach 25 or so it seems to have a lot less effect. So since there are a lot of questions still unanswered and risks to very valuable assets, most teams probably do err on the side of caution. We will learn more and more as studies continue, but it only make sense to be careful. How hard was it for you to hurt your shoulder? Overhand throwing is not a natural action and too much repetition, especially in stressful situations when the whole body tends to tense more and strain more, cab be harmful.
February 24th, 20109:55 pm
Drew Brees is coming to Rochester. Tickets are $150 a pop.
February 24th, 20109:57 pm
bobby hillThat money could certainly could have been better spent a year ago acquiring a legitimate first baseman, or left fielder.
I think it takes a little bit of revision to history to assume the braves could have signed a first baseman or a leftfielder. We had a first baseman, and what leftfielder should we have gotten? You think it would have been better to beat the phils offer to Ibanez? Maybe Milton Bradley or pat burrell? Would that have been your solution? No, the money went where it should have gone for 2009. It would have been good not to get lowe for 4 years, but wren had to do what he had to do. The lowe signing is only slightly tragic. There is a lot of positives in having our pitching rotation set for the next several years.
Steve from OH
February 24th, 201010:00 pm
Doesn’t have to be all high-intensity throwing, Rob. Big misconception by fans, who think pitchers are pansies if they call off with a sore arm or are “coddled” by their coaches. Wrong. They’re smart. Now long-toss is completely different. It’s a great way to build arm strength, and can be as low-intensity as one needs. Leo really talked about it in his book and I agree with him 100%.
And keep in mind that the muscles you’re using really aren’t your big muscles (the rotator cuff muscles). They’re not as well-equipped to handle those high amounts of force as well as a quadriceps muscle or a pec muscle.
February 24th, 201010:03 pm
I don’t think some people will ever get the need at the time to sign Lowe. Maybe this year he goes 20-10, 3.35 and 210 IP and people will shut the hell up about his contract. I for one don’t think that honestly addresses the situation, some people just need it.
DAP, it would be revisionist history to not note that in October of 2008, Frank Wren publicly stated that we needed two pitchers and a big bat in the outfield. He overbought on pitching and had to settle for Loaf ’cause he was broke.
He was exactly right – he needed two pitchers and a big bat. He bought three pitchers. Now we’re hoping that the big bats are Glaus and Heyward. But I’m feeling lucky this time. And yes, I’m glad we have that kind of pitching depth.
February 24th, 201010:06 pm
And keep in mind that the muscles you’re using really aren’t your big muscles (the rotator cuff muscles). They’re not as well-equipped to handle those high amounts of force as well as a quadriceps muscle or a pec muscle. STEVE
good point buddy
February 24th, 201010:08 pm
The outfielder market wasn’t exactly great last year.
govclintontyree Frank Wren publicly stated that we needed two pitchers and a big bat in the outfield. He overbought on pitching and had to settle for Loaf ’cause he was broke.
ok, fine. lets see if we can come up with a big bat on the free agent market that wren should have signed instead of getting lowe or kawakami.
February 24th, 201010:09 pm
We may see Ibanez shoot back down to earth this year. His production started off hot but he cooled off eventually.
February 24th, 201010:10 pm
and i say free agent big bats because after the vazquez trade, any trade we made would have required one or more of the “untouchables”, schafer, hanson, heyward, freeman, ect.
February 24th, 201010:11 pm
Steve from OH
DO we no longer stress long tossing
February 24th, 201010:12 pm
do you mean upscale asian or authentic…we have both (although the authentic can cause intestinal issues if you aren’t ready for it)
February 24th, 201010:14 pm
Now, obviously, you can strengthen your rotator cuff muscles using target exercises (all pitchers should do this, btw), but even still, consider that a healthy teres minor can generate around 60 pounds of force. I’m reading a study that shows (if I’m interpreting it correctly) that the force on a shoulder is about 108% of body weight–so you’re looking at much more than 60 lb. of force on that joint. Obviously, good mechanics will distribute that force about several muscles, ligaments, etc (and hopefully on to larger muscle groups), but it shows that the forces you generate on that shoulder are not insignificant and it is certainly prudent to allow proper rest for young pitchers, with plenty of time for proper conditioning as opposed to full-out workouts as the staple conditioning practice.
February 24th, 201010:17 pm
I really doubt that we don’t long-toss, Rob. It is one of those things that I would think (hope) would be pretty ubiquitous across professional circles. Just please consider that there are a ton of factors going into this, such as the inherent ability of the athlete to exert control over his muscles, the inherent strength of his muscles, ligaments and tendons, his conditioning regimen, his age, his mechanics, his intelligence, etc. that contribute to his risk for injury. Generally, the younger the age, the more cautious you are, but is is never a bad idea to err on the side of caution given the stress subjected to the shoulder during throwing.
Now the elbow? No biggie! Just give ‘em a Tommy John and they’ll be good as new, LOL!
February 24th, 201010:19 pm
LFs available in 2008: Dunn, Abreu, Burrell, Ibanez. Right off the top of my head. Yes, Burrell had a lousy year in Tampa, but all of those would have been a better cleanup option than Garrett Anderson.
nick not Nick
February 24th, 201010:20 pm
I am sure this has already been asked and I am sorry if it has but is Saito going to be a free agent after this year? I know he signed a 1/yr deal but he has only 4 years of service time according to Cots and it doesn’t say he will be a free agent at the end of this contract like it does with KK’s contract and some of the other Japanese contract details. Thanks!
February 24th, 201010:21 pm
Now the elbow? No biggie! Just give ‘em a Tommy John and they’ll be good as new, LOL! STEVE
yeah they have made great strides on the elbow and the knee. I can remember when any joint injury and you were done. Tired arm? go home get yourself a life. Torn knee? Huge scar and lucky if you didn’t limp at least some.
February 24th, 201010:23 pm
I believe Leo suggested in his book that if a you start on Monday, you should take Tuesday off (just run, but you should do that every day, LOL!), long-toss Wednesday, thow a low-intensity side session working entirely on location on Thursday, long-toss Friday, and start again on Saturday. I really like that plan because you get a tremendous amount of low-intensity conditioning that both builds stamina as well as arm strength, and you get a nice chance to work on your command in between starts as well. The key is just to not over do it.
So, who do we want to win? Czech Republic or Finland?
Haven’t posted here in a while, been busy with school, wrestling, etc…
But anyway, our farm system is shaping up very nicely…some elite talent outside of Heyward in Freeman, Teheran, Viscaino, Salcedo, Bethancourt, and Delgado. Not to mention solid prospects like Minor, Kimbrel, and possibly Hicks. I’m very excited about Salcedo, especially since they’re saying he’s at least going to hit. As long as he can hit, he’ll find a position, whether it’s SS or 3B. I can see him shooting up to High-A by the end of this year.
Our big league lineup is solid…not the best in the division right now, but that’s going to be determined by performances we can’t really project, like Heyward and Glaus. If they put up solid numbers, our team will be in contention.
Here are my projections for the year:
CF McLouth – .263/.354/.456, 20 HR, 68 RBI
2B Prado – .278/.347/.435, 11 HR, 62 RBI
3B Jones – .294/.395/.482, 21 HR, 75 RBI
1B Glaus – .257/.355/.510, 24 HR, 81 RBI
C McCann – .313/.377/.502, 22 HR, 87 RBI
SS Escobar – .309/.369/.475, 17 HR, 72 RBI
RF Heyward – .274/.358/.459, 18 HR, 69 RBI
LF Diaz – .288/.344/.460, 12 HR, 55 RBI
SP Lowe – 14-12, 3.74 ERA, 120 SO
SP Jurrjens – 16-8, 3.24 ERA, 180 SO
SP Hudson – 13-9, 3.64 ERA, 160 SO
SP Hanson – 12-11, 3.55 ERA, 210 SO
SP Kawakami – 10-12, 4.09 ERA, 175 SO
CL Wagner – 33 S, 6 BS
February 24th, 201010:24 pm
I would have rathered they sign Andruw than Anderson. I will admit that. But Ibanez was a gamble… Burrell is just as bad as Anderson defensively. Dunn is a liability defensively (dude can rock it, though), and Abreu was a gamble, too.
Yeah, the elbow and knee aren’t too complicated as compared to the shoulder, in terms of range-of-motion. Not too difficult to figure out a good procedure to fix a joint that can really only move in one direction.
Now, in practice…
February 24th, 201010:25 pm
govclintontyree, good eye on abreu. i forgot about him, and i was very disappointed at the time that we didnt get him. i will totally give you that one. burrell, no way. ibanez would have cost over $30mil for 3 years, that might be a worse signing than either of the pitchers we got, adam dunn may have been worth getting.
February 24th, 201010:26 pm
Lance Link, Secret Chimp: I’d say probably Conrad for the last utility job, unless Thurston totally outperforms him this spring. To me, Thurston is the guy you’d want if you had to use him for a week or two to fill in for someone (unlikely with Infante on team), but Conrad is the guy you’d rather have coming off the bench for one game or for a pinch-hit or whatever. He’s got a lot more pop, more likely to give you an extra-base hit and/or spark with his high-energy game.
February 24th, 201010:28 pm
joerochester Abreu was a gamble, too.
i dont really think he was. abreu has been one of the most consistant players in MLB for a decade.
February 24th, 201010:30 pm
nick not Nick, I believe that Saito will be arbitration eligible in 20011 and a free agent after that. That’s how Cot’s contracts has him listed.
February 24th, 201010:33 pm
Yeah, DAP and joe rochester, my thinking at the time – and still, really – is that for a major bopper, I’d've put up with sub-standard defense, at least in LF. And we didn’t have any way of predicting that Burrell wouldn’t be a major bopper. None of those guys is much of an outfielder, but all of them would have given us some needed ballast in the lineup. And we didn’t miss the playoffs by much, and Kawakami spit sunflower seeds for most of September.
So I would have gone for any of them, and I’m admitting I would have blown it if I had been GM because I would have signed Burrell to 2/$16m. Of course, I would have signed Dunn to 2/$20m or Abreu to 2/$16m. Guess I would’ve lost Ibanez to the Phillies, ’cause I wouldn’t have gone that high for him.
Troy Glaus had a bronze medal.
Neither can play short worth a tinker’s damn, so I’m on the Feliz boat mentioned earlier. He can’t either, but at least he can hit major league pitching a bit.
February 24th, 201010:34 pm
Abreu is not a bopper. But Dunn I like. We’ve had the conversation about Dunn many times on the blog.
February 24th, 201010:36 pm
nolie, feliz? do you mean felipe lopez?
February 24th, 201010:38 pm
Pedro Feliz, I think?
February 24th, 201010:39 pm
Well, anyway, old news on the ‘08 LF thing.
Found out tonight that my daughter was accepted to her school of choice, Georgia State. Yahoo!
which one is a free agent? either would be an improvement
February 24th, 201010:40 pm
congrats Gov. Good for her!
February 24th, 201010:41 pm
Oh, and Lance Link, no I didn’t get over to get the CD. It was pouring when I left the ballpark tonight, didn’t feel like driving through traffic in rain to find a place to buy it. Tomorrow.
Schultz is now here at the MIB Blog annex on the shores of Lake Bryan. He’s staying four days. Making him sleep on the deck outside.
February 24th, 201010:43 pm
Yay! My alma mater.
Congrats to her!
February 24th, 201010:45 pm
O’Brien, be careful. Schultz has plans to mess with you.
My cousin went to GA state, Gov. Your daughter will love it, I bet.
You guys are lucky to have that scholarship to all of your state schools. And I get to look at my loans and cry inside…
February 24th, 201010:46 pm
Thanks, Soph and nolie. Her name’s Katie and she wants to be a journalist. I suggested she play in a band so she’d have something to fall back on.
February 24th, 201010:47 pm
And Steve. Yeah, the Hope Scholarship is a good thing.
February 24th, 201010:48 pm
Tell Schultz to stop being so objective and get behind the 2010 Braves. Dam the facts.
pedro feliz signed with the astros, i believe. and he isnt a much better hitter than our current options, so i dont think nolie means him.
February 24th, 201010:50 pm
Oh, and I forgot a big congrats, Gov!
February 24th, 201010:54 pm
pedro feliz signed with the astros, i believe. and he isnt a much better hitter than our current options, so i dont think nolie means him. DAP
I didn’t know he had signed, but he is definitely a better hitter than either Conrad or Thurston, way better against MLB pitching. I guess maybe it was Lopez that they were talking about earlier. I really ain’t sure. I was mostly kidding around about what sorry hitters those two of ours are and that was the first thing that popped into mind..
February 24th, 201011:01 pm
Is “Matchstick Men” a good movie?
February 24th, 201011:02 pm
Gov- Congrad to you daughter. My daughter was excepted at Texas A&M-Kingsville to play softball. Sure makes a parent proud. Now the next step PASSING
February 24th, 201011:05 pm
Gov – State’s a great school for journalism. Especially with Turner/CNN right up the street.
February 24th, 201011:07 pm
I agree with Heath. good flick
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