With Damon off market, do Braves stand pat?

Now that free-agent outfielder Johnny Damon has reportedly agreed to a one-year, $8 million contract with Detroit, the Braves seem content to enter the season with their current talent. But that’s not a certainty.

General manager Frank Wren left open the possibility of pursuing other moves, now or later.

“We like our current club but we are always looking to improve when possible,” Wren said Saturday night, when asked about other possibilities for the Braves after news of Damon’s decision.

He did not elaborate on whether they had anything specific in mind, or was just speaking in general terms.

The Braves offered Damon a one-year contract that was thought to be worth about $4.5 million, with a portion deferred. The former Red Sox and Yankees leadoff man could have played left field and batted at the top of the Braves’ order.

With their current talent, the Braves’ projected opening day lineup would have Nate McLouth in center field and the leadoff spot, with top prospect Jason Heyward having an opportunity to win the right-field job this spring.

The left-field duties would be split between Matt Diaz and Melky Cabrera, and Cabrera could move to right field if the Braves decide Heyward needs a little more time in Class AAA.

The Braves won’t say how much they have left to spend, but it’s believed to be less than $4 million.

121 comments Add your comment

John

February 20th, 2010
8:50 pm

What happened to that extra money Liberty Media talked about. Last season there was talk about a magical amount of money that Liberty Media supposedly would give the Braves if they had a good enough reason to get a player.

Does that still apply to this season? Say a month into the season, someone gets injured, and we suddenly need someone. Where’s that leave us?

Derek

February 20th, 2010
9:01 pm

I hate to be that guy that second guesses the GM on a message board, but was Xavier Nady never discussed? Sure, he’s coming off an injury, but so is Glaus. If healthy, Nady would have provided numbers similar to Damon and at a lower cost. Also, has it already been determined that there will be a platoon in left? Diaz was great last season and as his plate appearances increased, so did his numbers.

JB

February 20th, 2010
9:03 pm

When is Liberty Media going to sell the Braves to Arthur Blank?

unbelievable

February 20th, 2010
9:06 pm

John or anyone else, do you really think Damon is worth $8mil? I sure dont

unbelievable

February 20th, 2010
9:08 pm

Derek, the braves had plenty of interest in Nady at 1B. They are worried about his throwing arm and his second TJ surgery. Nady wanted an everyday OF job

Bigboi

February 20th, 2010
9:08 pm

extremus

February 20th, 2010
9:08 pm

I say they need to stand pat for now given what’s out there, and let the roster spots (especially in that crowded outfield) be decided during Spring Training. Personally if he’s ready, I think Heyward could be a huge contributor out of the gate and could well end up carrying this team very soon. McClouth is probably a lock for center field at least for now, but if perhaps Jordan Schafer has a big spring he could figure into the early regular season plans, maybe even as a leadoff possibility due to his speed. Diaz and Cabrera round out the top candidates, but one or both could end up being surprised by the emergence of Mitch Jones and Cody Johnson, both of whom could provide explosive power off the bench.

In short, the Braves have a big surplus of big-league talent in the outfield right now. Don’t be surprised if after Spring Training there aren’t one and perhaps even two new faces on the Opening Day roster. Since I don’t believe the Braves will carry more than four outfielders into the regular season, it is logical to figure that whomever is left on the outside looking in will become a bargaining chip for other needs (perhaps at third base, where Chipper Jones may or may not return depending on his results this year). I like our pitching as long as they can stay healthy; if the Braves can correct their anemic offensive output from last year (and I think they should), they will be a surprise team in the NL this year. Here’s hoping, anyway.

UGA75

February 20th, 2010
9:10 pm

DOB

You are still on the ball this early season. I don’t know what the Bravos will do if Heyward isn’t ready, hopefully find someone so we don’t have to depend on the Yankees castoff. I’m not unhappy with Diaz in LF, but RF has been a black hole since Frenchy’s 2nd season.

Just curious, who is left as a Free Agent that might be helpful?

Brave One

February 20th, 2010
9:14 pm

The braves blew it with damon—the morons running the team are stuck looking for scraps now—they’ll end up 3rd in the division–mark it down.

.

February 20th, 2010
9:14 pm

Its good to have hope but I just don’t see much with the team the Braves have now. Just keep up the spirits…..wait till next year!

cricket

February 20th, 2010
9:14 pm

What about Gomes? I think he would be a good pickup.

BTW, hate these mini bloggets.

kevin

February 20th, 2010
9:20 pm

This team is becoming the KC Royals of the National League. Everything is done on the cheap with the goal of being competitive, they have no chance of winning the division.

Derek

February 20th, 2010
9:21 pm

@unbelievable

I didn’t know Atlanta had that much interest with Nady at first. I still think his throwing arm can’t be much worse than Damon’s in the OF. And you’re absolutely right, Damon is not worth 8 million dollars.

Walker, Texas Ranger

February 20th, 2010
9:25 pm

Braves will be weak defensively with Diaz but who the heck will lead off, McClouth, Prado? The black hole has been at lead off since Otis Nixon. No team speed and limited power, this team is one dimensional and is going no where.

Riding the Pines

February 20th, 2010
9:48 pm

Jordan Schaefer. Jordan Schaefer. Jordan flipping Schaefer.

tvsportscaster

February 20th, 2010
9:48 pm

If the Braves really want to strengthen their time, they should sign Felipe Lopez. They need a second reserve infielder that can play shortstop, something they don’t currently have with Joe Thurston or Brooks Conrad, as neither one of the them can play short. Also, they could surely sign Lopez four less than 4 million.

Riding the Pines

February 20th, 2010
9:50 pm

Jordan Schaefer. Constantly overlooked; destined to stardom.

2nd Rate Franchise

February 20th, 2010
9:53 pm

Damon would have provided great numbers but also a winning attitude. The fact the Braves didn’t get aggressive shows they prefer to be a 2nd Tier franchise. I never thought I would miss Ted Turner but now I do. At least he understood the formula to winning is talent. It will be hard to continue to be a big Braves fan with this approach.

Ducktown, ga

February 20th, 2010
9:54 pm

Braves are okay without Damon. He was overpriced. See furcal and Griffey last year. Don’t get upset over a name. Wren showed last year he had the patience & guts to make moves. You can’t tell me the city was pumped when he got mcclouth& promoted hanson on the same day. He’s doing well with what he’s got to work with.

Ducktown, ga

February 20th, 2010
9:56 pm

Jordan S. Is also forgotten. He had a bum wrist early and he never recovered. He could be the missing link this year

Pat

February 20th, 2010
9:57 pm

Keep wondering who Pat is.
I am surprised he was even offered 4.5 million. There are plenty of rental outfielders available.
The Braves will do great with the pitching they have! Had they won just 5 or 6 more games they would have been in the playoffs in good shape.

Mitchell

February 20th, 2010
9:58 pm

Why would he go to Detroit? What is that about?

Oh yeah, money.

I don’t get it. Detroit. That sucks.

bass stringerfish

February 20th, 2010
9:59 pm

Those that wanted Damon…have you even thought abought this guy in Turner Field…in the OF? He can’t throw, he will not have Yankee Stadium’s RF and he won’t have the Yankee lineup protecting him. No way he comes close to hitting with power in the ATL as he did in NY. You’re just caught up in what he used to be and the fact that he was on the most recent major winning teams of the last few years. I say the Tigers were YET AGAIN duped by Boros and paid way too high for this guy (as a starting ball player). Do we need more money to get back in the hunt? Yes, but in this case, having less money may actually prove to get us a better ball player. I say “whew!”…

Furman Bitcher

February 20th, 2010
10:06 pm

Bass you are 100% correct my friend

Furman Bitcher

February 20th, 2010
10:08 pm

Braves already have a Johny Damon. He is called Nate McClouth.

rico43

February 20th, 2010
10:12 pm

I saw a very astute post here last week where someone (not me) said that McLouth is Damon eight years ago. I tent to agree, that he will grow into that kind of player and leadoff man now that his legs are healthy again. Of course, patience is not a virtue widely practiced around here.

Furman Bitcher

February 20th, 2010
10:14 pm

And dont forget he got his eyes fixed which started bothering him last year

Uno Ocho

February 20th, 2010
10:32 pm

I think Damon would be an upgrade, HOWEVER, the Braves REALLY need some POP….Some protection for Chipper….Are we really going to rely on Glaus?

RayK

February 20th, 2010
10:38 pm

with the Braves being on such a tight budget, I can’t see them letting Heyward make the team out of spring training and moving his arbitration eligibility up a year. when you get nothing for Drew and Francouer, and Andruw fades out, you are left with little in the outfield. they will be battling for 3rd.

ryan

February 20th, 2010
10:40 pm

There is still one guy the braves can go and get and his name is Jermayne Dye a former brave and a good guy that can help Jason Heywood a clone of Dye. I think Dye would be better anyway .

Matt

February 20th, 2010
10:43 pm

Ok so i agree about Damon it would be a waste. My problem is we don’t spend money anymore. and then the wonder why attendance is down…This lineup has no pop. Our best hitter is a catcher. Not that there is anything wrong with McCann, he’s great but what happened to the bat they promised Bobby 2 years ago? The Phillies add Ibanez last year and Halladay thgis year. and the Mets get Jason Bay? The Nats even spent money on power. I know Adam Dunn can’t play defense but at least he produces on offense.

Matt

February 20th, 2010
10:49 pm

Here’s an interesting proposition….trade Lowe, Freeman, and Jones to San Diego for Adrian Gonzalez.

Tommy stanley

February 20th, 2010
10:50 pm

Mclouth does not have a center field arm I always wondered why frency did not get that spot he had the best arm on the team Nate can only make a play at the plate in short center if you check Infantes avg while batting 1st before he was injured last year it was probaly best on the team need to bunch some of these dead weights that are never going to start for us and trade for a solid center fielder and put Nate in left

ElBraggO

February 20th, 2010
10:52 pm

Go Braves 2011.

richbrave

February 20th, 2010
10:59 pm

Thank god the DAMON watch is over. Here’s hoping contacts work wonders, and TG learns quickly at 1st base. And other sore-armed pitchers this spring besides JJ?

Supes

February 20th, 2010
11:26 pm

Braves have 2 very young OF-ers in Jordan S. and Heyward, plus they’ve got Nate McLouth who is still young and signed on for several years. On top of that they’ve got Melky Cabrera who isn’t “great” but is a serviceable OF-er, PLUS Matty Diaz who is an excellent plantoon guy.

What about this 5 man OF don’t we like? Yes there are question marks, but talent is there. Speed, Defense and POWER too.

Not too bad if you are the Braves organization.

stew

February 20th, 2010
11:33 pm

I am happy we didn’t sign Damon. He wasn’t batting lead off for the Yanks last year. He is really an old man who happened to hit some balls into the jetstream in right center in Yankee Stadium last year. I’d like for the Braves to play the following lineup in 2010: 1.Schafer CF 2. Prado 2B 3.Heyward RF 4.Jones 3B 5.Escobar SS 6. McCann C 7.Glaus1B 8. McClouth LF 9. Pitcher. Glaus should only be a stopgap to Freeman. Escobar must bat fifth. You can’t bat Heyward 8th it will destroy his confidence as he won’t get enough RBI chances. If Cody Johnson proves himself capable he should take over in left and we have to somehow acquire a replacement for Chipper (Ryan Zimmerman?) he only has a year or 2 left. If we sign Edward we can move Yunel there. Try to move KK he just isn’t happening.

koolmap

February 20th, 2010
11:44 pm

is there any other free agent outfielders besides dye and sheffield? r there any that could help the braves

train

February 20th, 2010
11:52 pm

I think we are acting just a little bit desperate. While Damon would have been a good addition to the Braves team, I don’t think he would have been the difference between a mediocre team and a playoff team. If the Braves want to make the playoffs in Bobby’s last year, a lot of work will have to be done. But it is definitely possible.

David O'Brien

February 21st, 2010
12:12 am

Here’s an interesting proposition….trade Lowe, Freeman, and Jones to San Diego for Adrian Gonzalez. — Matt

Are we to assume you’re being serious?

chip off the ol block

February 21st, 2010
12:17 am

just got back from one of the loudest concerts i’ve ever been too, Jason Aldean Luke Bryan were great tonight over here in Augusta, GA

Jason said Chipper was even at the concert, never saw him though

RHR

February 21st, 2010
12:36 am

REHIRE LOAF!

:D

JTH

February 21st, 2010
12:53 am

Is Liberty Media for sure going to sale the Braves after they qualify for their big tax break? What if they don’t? Decades of mediocrity probably.

JTH

February 21st, 2010
12:57 am

If I was Wren I’d play it conservative with
Heyward and keep him at Gwinnett until after the time passes for Atlanta to keep him the extra season before free agency and to get him some more at-bats at AAA before facing major league pitching. Start Diaz in right for now.

so cal Brave

February 21st, 2010
1:15 am

Matt: Here’s an interesting proposition… quit drinking before posting comments! It would take Schaefer, Freeman, and 1 or 2 top pitching prospects to bring A-Gon to the ATL… the Padres have no interest in trading a young inexpensive franchise player for aging expensive players and 1 propect that may be 2 years away from the majors.

Gypsy Thongman

February 21st, 2010
1:26 am

Let me get this straight. With all the questions in the outfield (and on offense), the Braves let the answer get away for a mere $3.5 million. Stupid. Short-sighted. Myopic. Perhaps toast.

bowman
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“Art will always be Art.” – Goethe

bravesfaninNashville

February 21st, 2010
1:28 am

Blessing in disguise with Damon signing in Detroit. Turner field and the park in Detroit both play bigger than Yankee Stadium and Damon’s output will diminish there like it surely would have in Atlanta. Damon doesn’t have leadoff hitter speed anymore and is a minus in the field. Nate will be better than Damon with healthy legs, corrected vision and of course he possesses a far better throwing arm. Also this gives us a chance to see what Jordan Schafer can do when healthy. I believe his real potential is higher than many fans give him credit for. When he can swing hard without being in pain I think his aggressiveness will return and that’s his game. He’s a fiery competitor that didn’t want to come out and admit he was hurt because he thought he could play through it. Even though that hurt the team it should tell us something about his competitiveness. This move also gives the Braves more flexibility to make a move in case Glaus isn’t healthy enough to help or we have a season ending injury to someone like Escobar or Chipper. Nate also had a very high stolen base percentage because he is an intelligent runner. He’ll be very effective with healed wheels this year. IMO. I’m actually looking forward to what this team can do as is. If we can get off to anything but a terrible start for the first 6-8 weeks I think our pitching will keep us in a marathon as most teams can run 5 starters out as good as the Braves day in and day out.

bravesfaninNashville

February 21st, 2010
1:32 am

most teams CAN’T run 5 starting pitchers as good as the Braves day in and day out is what I meant to say.

bravesfaninNashville

February 21st, 2010
1:43 am

I say if the Braves aren’t going to get a slugger that is a game changer (and there isn’t one out there on the free agent market) the Braves should use speed, defense and youth with lower salaries until we can pay for a player of all-star ability. Damon was the wrong place to spend money because he wouldn’t have netted a big enough difference over a Diaz/Cabrera platoon or Nate because though he may hit a few (and I mean less than 5) more home runs than (Nate had 20 last year) his defense would cost us more than any of our other outfielders on the roster now. I like this team and I really like that we have some flexibility just in case.

so cal Brave

February 21st, 2010
2:16 am

The only thing that Damon would have brought to the Braves would’ve been his winning attitude, but I’m not sure that was worth 8 million… Him and Jason Bay are gonna regret signing where they did when their numbers go way down from last year’s.
I’m excited about our line up, the outfield is better than most people think, a Diaz/Cabrera platoon will bat close to .300 with 20 HRs combined, McLouth will return to be a solid lead off hitter with a .285 average and 25 Hrs and then whatever we get from Shaefer/Heyward will be just gravy. The infield with Escobar and Prado hitting .300 each and 30 HRs combined should be good, and I expect Hinske should get a lot of playing time at first when Glaus needs a day off or when Glaus plays 3B because Chipper needs a day off. Chipper should hit close to .300 again with maybe 20 HRs and a Glaus/Hinske platoon sohould give us at .275 average with 30HRs combined. Finally, the backbone of our line up McCann will have an MVP type year and carry the Braves into the playoffs with a +.300 average and close to 30HR season.

P. Bull Terrier

February 21st, 2010
2:41 am

It sounds like there were only two teams left in the Damon derby – Atlanta at 4.5 million and Detroit at 8 million. What in the world inspired Detroit to pay nearly twice as much as the last remaining bidder? I imagine Damon needed a little extra incentive to live in Detroit half of the year, but anything beyond an extra million or so is just throwing away money.

I wish the Braves would spend a little more, but I’m glad they aren’t wasting what money they do have by throwing it away on overpriced free agents who have few options and limited value.

Innocent Bystander

February 21st, 2010
3:04 am

chip off the ol block- How was the concert? I’ve wanted to see those to for awhile now. Had no idea they were playing in Augusta tonight… Probably too far for me anyways though. Eric Church was in town tonight as well.

Tommy stanley

February 21st, 2010
4:05 am

iF THE BALL IS HIT TO THE WALL NATE CAN ONLY BOUNCE TO 2 ND HE HAS NO CENTERFIELD ARM I DON’T CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS LEFT FIELD IS NOT THE PROBLEM CENTER AND LEAD OFF IS

Delaware Brave

February 21st, 2010
5:10 am

Who needs Damon anyway? He throws like a girl!! We’ve got the outfielders that we need. Before the season if half way through, we’re going to have Jason Heyward and Schaefer playing awesome at triple AAA and ready to come up.

Sid

February 21st, 2010
6:03 am

Tommy stanley: Less caps, more punctuation

Mutts

February 21st, 2010
7:17 am

Braves Nation must have been pretty bored to be excited about getting Johnny Damon – he’s a good player who is past his prime and no longer has a major league outfielder’s arm. Let’s move on from this one.

TheAntiMe

February 21st, 2010
8:04 am

The Braves weren’t going to get Damon, anyway. Not when all of the other teams that wanted him (at one time or another) were in the AL. Dude spent his entire career in the AL and wasn’t going to the NL unless Boras got him some big NL bucks.

Lefty

February 21st, 2010
8:14 am

The Braves may have “major league” talent in the outfield, but it’s just not very good talent (not that Damon would have helped). Seriously, none of the Braves outfielders could crack the Phillies starting lineup. Werth, Victorino, and Ibanez are all better than anything we have. Even the Mets, with Bay, Beltran, and Francouer, make our outfield look pretty sad. Those are just the division teams we must compete with. Has anyone noticed what the Dodgers have in their outfield?

Here’s a thought. If the Braves have a little extra money, could they not set it aside and use it next year (or whenever) to help bring in a hired gun for a year or so. It would be kind of like “saving up” to make a run at a pennant every couple of years instead of spending it all on mediocre talent every year.

Gil In Mechanicsville

February 21st, 2010
8:36 am

Pretty easy to snipe when it’s not your money… Okay, so Damon did not really want to play for the Braves, what else is new? Personally, I think the Detroit front office has lost their collective minds. What else would explain letting a young stud like Granderson so they could shave payroll and then sign a has been for more money?

Gil In Mechanicsville

February 21st, 2010
8:40 am

Prediction, the Mets and the Nats will fight it out for fourth place in the NL East but the Braves will battle it out with the Fish and the Phillies. It always has and always will come down to pitching and the Braves have pitching.

Stovey

February 21st, 2010
8:43 am

How bout we trade Wren for a pack of Big League Chew?

Paul W.

February 21st, 2010
9:02 am

I agree with what some other have said- we just might improve ourselves with a healthy Schafer in CF and McLouth in LF. Schafer has great potential but was hurt last year- if he can prove something in the spring, our OF goes from a weakness to a strength, offensively AND defensively.

Santa Cruz CA Dawg

February 21st, 2010
9:08 am

DB
Do you think Jordan Schafer can bounce back and be a good leadoff man, for the Braves?

Tomahawkin' Again (hopefully not to 3rd place)

February 21st, 2010
9:19 am

I’m not bothered too much over not getting Damon, but it’s the overall doing things on the cheap that does bother me. Someone nailed it last night – we’re the KC Royals of the NL. The rednecks might have hated Ted Turner’s politics, his marrying Hanoi Jane…but he was one helluva an owner. Never afraid to spend whatever it took to make the Braves a winner. Something tells me that the Johan Santana’s, Roy Halladay’s, and Carl Crawford’s would have the tomahawk on their chest if Ted still owned this club. Hoping that a steroid-inflated 1B coming off injury, a 40+ yr old closer (also recently off surgery) and other 30+ yr players to have a comeback in them doesn’t strike me as an ownership fully committed to winning. There has to be someone left in Atlanta who’s rich and gives a darn to buy this team – Liberty Media stinks.

World Be Free

February 21st, 2010
9:24 am

The Braves were talking about possibly getting rid of Matt Diaz to make room Damon. Diaz is better than Damon, so the fact theat we did not sign Johnny is a positive.

Dent

February 21st, 2010
9:25 am

Extra money will be used to sign Smoltz mid season.

Mike S

February 21st, 2010
9:35 am

I would not count Jordan Sheaffer out of the Ourfield mix, and I will also throw out the name of a former brave who is still unsigned and might have one more season left in his bat – Jermaine Dye!

chip off the ol block

February 21st, 2010
9:45 am

innocent bystandard the crowd was sold out, there wasnt a empty seat in the house, Luke came out and was real good as always. The crowd was loud during Luke but then when Jason came out and did Johnny Cash, Hicktown, etc the place went crazy… and when he did Big Green Tractor wow wow wow, it was great! Didn’t know Eric was in town either, he’s real good live too.

As for the Braves not getting Johnny- Its for the best, yea Johnny would have brought a Vet proven bat, but the difference just ain’t worth the 7.5 mil he got. I’d like to see what Melky, Matty, Nate, M. Jones, Jordan, not to mention Jason Heyward, with all of the outfielders we have somebody is bound to show up.

squintyeyed

February 21st, 2010
9:46 am

I agree with the point that cmpared Damon to Griffey last year. We will be glad that we didnt waste our money there. I think we should stand pat. We have 3 proven ML OFers and , what, like 4 prospect knocking at the door?. This ream has a lot of serious talent (it seems we are already used to haveing Hanson and JJ around) and if you cant get excited about this team as the season gets under way, then it is time for you to go be a Yankees fan. I mean really, I read a lot more than I post and I just shake my head when I read “need to step up and spen more money”. The budget is what makes the offseason interesting. If you want to treat the offseason like its a video game where you can just make up trades then go be a Yankees fan.

curtis jones

February 21st, 2010
9:50 am

I wish the Braves could find a spot for Infante. The stats show he’s far and away their best leadoff man.

sidslidkid

February 21st, 2010
9:51 am

i think with Damon out of the picture Heyward has to start the season in Atlanta if he has a good spring. If he struggles in spring training then i’d like to see him in AAA until June.

sidslidkid

February 21st, 2010
9:53 am

“I would not count Jordan Sheaffer out of the Ourfield mix, and I will also throw out the name of a former brave who is still unsigned and might have one more season left in his bat – Jermaine Dye!” – Mike S

Ain’t happenin’… There is no way the Braves sign him. Thankfully the Braves FO doesn’t want him at any price. His bat speed is too slow and he’s too old.

G$

February 21st, 2010
9:58 am

Wow! As a lifelong Braves fan, we are closer now than ever to returning to the “bag the head” days of old. Our hope now for post-season is another miraclle run of less than stellar talent. What a shame! The franchise is now scared to spend the money necessary to compete. We are stuck with mediocrity and a season clearly over by August.

bert

February 21st, 2010
10:01 am

this is what happens when MLB allows a media group to buy a baseball team for a tax write off,I cant wait for Arthur Blank to buy the Braves

MEJ

February 21st, 2010
10:14 am

Arthur Blank needs to buy the Braves and then clean house. The management of the Braves has not been effective for at least 8 years. The GM acts just like his mentor, which means we are going to be faced every year with losing good talent, (Vasquez, Frenchy, Andrus, etc) and getting players that are either substandard (Melky, etc), or will not stay past a year. (Texiera) His answer is going to be to try and sign injured stars past their prime and hope they can re-hab themselves into one to two years of productivity. The team of the 90’s was gifted with pitching and good hitting. The team of the 2000’s has been patchworked together every year with continuously declining results. The Phillies are the Braves of the 90’s. They have solid players signed to long term contracts, and continue to add to their pitching depth. We need a GM that is reacting like the Falcons GM – identify weak spots in the roster and then go out and fill them with the best available talent. Would Wren go out and sign a Tony Gonzalez type talent to fill a spot on the roster? Not in a million years. Until the team is sold, and a new management team is put in place, the Braves will continue to struggle. I feel badly for guys like Bobby Cox and Chipper Jones who have been nothing but loyal to the organization. They get criticized every year by people who have no clue what it takes to build a team and compete with players that change every year. Like each year, I hope the Braves will win it all. Unfortunatley the last 4 years have shown us that any chance the Braves have of winning a division will be gone by May, and that by the end of July any chance of a wild card spot will be gone as well. Melky will be gone by July and Glaus will be with him. Once again the Braves braintrust will screw up the season.

richbrave

February 21st, 2010
10:17 am

No more DAMON to kick around. What’s a poster to do except fret over sore arms? I see others were surprised that JJ would be held out of training for a much longer period than originally thought. Surprise, surprise, surprise.

Mr D

February 21st, 2010
10:18 am

77th.

Whatever happened to Jordan Schaeffer? Anyway?

fieldofdreams

February 21st, 2010
10:19 am

Never understood what the fuss was about an old guy with a crummy arm, no speed, average average, and who would not have hit home runs in our park.

Stinky

February 21st, 2010
10:42 am

I gues Mr. O’brian was just plain wrong about Atlanta’s chance to land Damon.

Javy Lopez/Vasquez

February 21st, 2010
10:44 am

I asked u guys not to trade me, so now I gonna peetch in the World Series & get me a ring for the stinkin damn Yankees, I sorry I love to peetch for Booby Cox, good luck to you Bravos but I dont think I will see u in the Show. Melky Cabrera, lmao u kidding me Im still laughing

unbelievable

February 21st, 2010
10:52 am

“The Braves were talking about possibly getting rid of Matt Diaz to make room Damon. Diaz is better than Damon, so the fact theat we did not sign Johnny is a positive.” – World Be Free

no, the Braves never mentioned trading Diaz. Not even once, it was just speculation by some people here

unbelievable

February 21st, 2010
10:53 am

Stinky – who is Mr O’brian?

Cecil34

February 21st, 2010
10:56 am

I think it is obvious that the Braves braintrust has already made the evaluation that Chipper is in decline, will not bounce back, and 2010 will be his last hurrah.

This explains the signing of Herr Glaus.

Herr Glaus was signed not to play first, for any length of time, but to play third. Most likely will get to play third a good bit this year, but definately next year, once Freeman is up.

Hinske was signed to play first since Herr Glaus will be at third most of the time this year.

This is the handwriting on the wall for Chipper. These moves were done to wait for Freeman but also to finally cover for Chipper, who has nagging injuries and is in decline.

It could be setting the table to move Chipper with his consent in the middle of the season to an american league team for some prospects.

Wren has to plan and think way ahead – that is what good GM’s do.

Time will tell if this is a good GM’s move…..

Chasj

February 21st, 2010
11:05 am

I like the moves made this offseason but now I am starting to wonder how we will fare relative to last year. We really kicked it in when Laroche came to town and started to hit homers. If Glaus can fill that void we will be fine but if not we could have scoring shortages. Chipper is dicey now and Mcann cannot play every day, but maybe Heyward will be as good as advertised. Overall I like what the Braves have put together. Their payroll is mostly toward starters and that is usually where you want to put the dollars. It will be an interesting season regardless. Just pray we stay healthy.

Bravesarecheap

February 21st, 2010
11:08 am

3rd place at best. Better have the nursing home ambulance on standby with the retreads the Braves have signed. No season tix for me this year. Can’t believe they want to charge the prices for season tix and half the team should be retired or playing AAA ball. What a complete joke.

Kashi

February 21st, 2010
11:09 am

I want to buy Braves from Liberty Media, can you guys chip in?

Chasj

February 21st, 2010
11:10 am

Regarding the question do we stand pat. Well I am afraid we are done given our financial constraints but you never stop looking. Never hurts to throw out a lowball to someone. How good will our bench be? It has been wretched for a long time. I’d like an old veteran that has some pop and doesn’t mind riding the pine. Find me a modern day Chris Chambliss.

ryan c

February 21st, 2010
11:18 am

although gary sheffield would be tempting, there’s nothing really left that would really fill a need that’s not already filled. if mclouth, heyward, and diaz all perform well at the major-league level, and if schafer does well at AAA, then melky cabrera could be a big-time trade candidate to fill a need later on in the year. those are a lot of “ifs”, and, as a braves fan that suffered through 2008, shouldn’t be counted on.

Matt

February 21st, 2010
11:18 am

Ok Dave so I know it’s far fetched but I would even package Lowe Freeman, Schaefer, Vizcaino, and Chipper. i know thats giving alot away but we haven’t had a real franchise player in about 5 years. Not counting the Tex rental.

Bobbi Dud

February 21st, 2010
11:19 am

Some of the old guys at the Baseball Retirement Home may want another chance to make a comeback! They would play cheap!

ryan c

February 21st, 2010
11:23 am

Bravesarecheap,
from your extensive expertise, out of the 25 players that the braves will have on their roster, who should be at AAA? i can uderstand your bitterness concerning “retreads”, but seriously…AAA? mccann, ross, glaus, hinske, prado, infante, escobar, chipper, diaz, melky, mclouth, heyward, mitch jones, hudson, jurrjens, hanson, lowe, kawakami, moylan, medlen, o’flaherty, wagner, saito, chavez, dunn…
who should be at AAA?

Space Monkey

February 21st, 2010
11:23 am

Frank Wren is the only person in the world who likes this team. It doesn’t even have a first baseman. This Glaus thing is a farce.

realistic

February 21st, 2010
11:33 am

I agree with Curtis Jones. If Chipper was more of a “team first” player Infante could play 3rd with Chipper at 1st where he now belongs. The comments about Damon losing speed and not having an arm could have been about Chipper. The Braves need Prado and Infante in the lineup at the same time.

Delbert D.

February 21st, 2010
11:34 am

Do not stand pat. Trade Chipper Jones.

csg

February 21st, 2010
11:37 am

Greg Norton enters 2010 as the hitting coach for the Marlins AAA team

Glavine95

February 21st, 2010
11:40 am

Chip off the ol block – I agree it was a awesome concert and very loud. I liked how they made it seem over and started singing some more. FYI, Chipper was on the front row, right side. Two rows in front of me. Didnt realize how big he was!

Danga

February 21st, 2010
11:53 am

Realistic

Seriously? Chipper more of a team first player? How many times has he restructured his contract to allow the team to sign a free agent? He moved to left to make room for Vinny Castilla, and then he moved back to 3rd when the team needed him there. I don’t think you will find a player in MLB today who has given as much to his team over the course of his playing time than Chipper has to the Braves.

TPM

February 21st, 2010
11:55 am

I would go get Dye. Yes – he would be a liablity on the defense side like Chipper. But they need another bat.

Jo in Hall

February 21st, 2010
11:56 am

First of all I agree with several comments that the Braves have got to be sold to someone willing to spend the money for good players. Second, I agree with firing Frank Wren. What a joke he has been. Finally, I think Diaz should have the left field job totally and not be platooned. He has proven himself and I look forward to him showing everyone again in Spring Training that “He is the one for left field.” Going to Spring Training 3-30 and 3-31. Go Braves!

Ozzie

February 21st, 2010
12:03 pm

Damon would have been nice but like so many others we have parked in LF he would not have been enough. Until we get a bopper in LF in his prime this team will struggle IMHO.

We needed that player more than any other this off season and due to limited options and clearly zero payroll flexibility we did not get him.

Sooner or later platoons in LF have to stop and quite frankly any team that has Diaz and Melky starting together for long stretches may struggle.

Schafer is back to square one and at best he will displace McClouth in 2011. Diaz like Melky is a bench player not a starter.

McClouth is a LF not a CF with that noodle arm but he lacks the 30 hr power you want from LF. If his new contacts address his offensive woes then maybe he can slide over to LF and ber serviceable.

Hopefully Heyward will make the team this spring but I think they are going to start him in AAA to delay his clock so we won’t see Heyward here until June.

A lot can happen between April and June with Diaz in LF and Melky in RF – some of it not so great.

Anyway Damon was a decoy for all of us and Braves management. It gave us something to hope for and that is about it.

The team is not too shabby as is but not really a division winner as constructed. We will need a ROY performance from Heyward in RF from day one and everyone to stay healthy (esp Chipper and Glaus) for that to be feasible.

The pen looks great, the rotation looks solid to great but as many have mentioned we are not a power team, a fast team or a small ball team. The former is tough when your manager plays to the 3run homer but after 2010 that will change.

It is tough to win with a just hit them where they ain’t strategy. Hopefully Wren will decide what this team should be now that pitching is less of an issue for this club.

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