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CB

February 13th, 2010
5:34 pm

DOB,you can ride the top of our RV and pretend you are on your bike! :-)

Chopdawg

February 13th, 2010
5:35 pm

Anthony, I wasn’t at ST last year…but in the past, you could buy a ticket to the big-league ST game, and that ticket would get you into the Wide World of Sports complex so you could go to the back fields & watch the minor-leaguers practice & play. By the last few days of ST you can usually figure out which minor league players are going where: one field has the probable Rome players, one field the Myrtle Beach players, etc

That makes for a great day of baseball, especially if the big Braves game is a night game.

Like I said, wasn’t down there last yr but unless things have changed that’s the way it works.

Lew

February 13th, 2010
5:37 pm

DOB-No, always ready to answer whatever questions I can about ST. Don’t know a lot about the Exhibition games as I rarely go for the games – usually gone by then. However….

I believe the Braves MLB website posts hints, times, etc. sometime prior to the games (which ordinarily start in early March). I do know you can get in prior to game time and see some of the pre game warm ups, but don’t know if they open early enough for all.

In February, before the games actually begin, the players are looser, more willing to sign autographs and to answer questions. During these workouts you can see everything that goes on on the field – BP, pitchers throwing BP, fielding and running drills and everyone shagging fly balls or fielding grounders. There are separate fields (in the back) for pitchers and later when the exhibitions start, minor league action on the back fields.

There’s a grass berm in the outfield where your kids can try to run one another over catching balls hit over the fence (Javy Lopez always provided a few souvenirs) – also seating there during ex. games if you want to take a blanket out there – and batting cages, where players almost always sign autographs at a short fence.

I believe that the workouts are open to the public starting around 9 in the morning and usually last until Noon – sometimes closer to one. I didn’t attend last year, but there was a $12 charge to get into the Wide World of Sports complex for adults, a bit cheaper for the kiddies. You can always go earlier and wait by the entrance to the players parking lot – some players will sign then, too.

Hope this helps.

ken – Never heard of the Boogie Boys show and I was in Macon at the time. IF Foghat truly blew Deep Purple out, they must have done it while Tommy Bolin and not Ritchie Blackmore was with DP (though at this time Ritchie WAS pretty disgruntled and having epic battles with Ian Gillan – there’s a great video somwhere on You Tube of Blackmore refusing to play a solo and then throwing a glass of some liquid in Gillan’s face. This was the last time they played together for ten years).

I’ve seen DP three times with three different guitarists (saw Steve Morse with them, too). They been around since 1968 and should damned well be in the R&R HOF for Machine Head if no other of their numerous albums.

NEW CARS

February 13th, 2010
5:40 pm

DOB,

On that nice sunny day you’re dreaming about, just rent one and write it off as an ancilliary expense…just saying

The Grinch

February 13th, 2010
5:46 pm

Anyone here remember “Hear ‘n’ Aid?” It was the 80’s metal version of Live Aid. The comedy value of seeing all this dudes dressed like they are (and the HAIR) is worth a watch, as is the fact that the middle five minutes of the song is almost every great metal guitarist of the time engaging in back and forth solo wankery. It’s the perfect combination of epic cheese and technical proficiency.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7eqxg92YG0

David O'Brien

February 13th, 2010
5:48 pm

unbelievable … that is, your suggestion at 5:33 p.m. I don’t think anybody would mind if I took a 600-plus pound Harley through the lobby and into the elevator, then up to the apartment. No problem. The folks who own the apartment and rent it out, I’m sure they wouldn’t mind that.

Of course, the Triumph is only about 500 pounds, so I could easily do it with that one. (Eyes rolling.)

Actually, Frank Wren had a suggestion a week or so ago that made some sense — I could rent a storage unit for the month, just for the mike. But to find one in the immediate vicinity, where I could drive my car and park it there every time I wanted to ride the bike, and just making all the arrangements on short notice … well, I didn’t think it was worth it. The distance to the park from the apartment would be so short, the only rides worth taking would be to out-of-town games or at night after finishing work.

The Grinch

February 13th, 2010
5:51 pm

Deep Purple not being in the RR HOF cheapens the Hall. That would be like if the baseball Hall didn’t have Charlie Hustle. Hmmmm……gotta wonder how Purple must’ve cheated the industry, huh? Richie Blackmore must have used performance enhancing pickups on his guitar.

David O'Brien

February 13th, 2010
5:54 pm

NEW CARS, I might rent one and ride over to Bike Week one day if I have a chance. But I won’t be writing it off as any “ancillary expense,” I can assure you. These days, expense reports are tight and scrutinized rather closely, in my industry and most every other industry I know of.

David O'Brien

February 13th, 2010
5:55 pm

Anthony: See, I told you that some of the denizens would know exactly the info you were looking for. Ask, and you get answers here. If not from me, then from a bunch of others.

Thanks, fellas.

Steve from OH

February 13th, 2010
5:56 pm

Grinch–haha yeah, I’ve seen that. There’s also a video of the guitar players doing their cuts.

I really wish those guys would’ve written better songs–because they’re all outstanding musicians.

Rob from SC

February 13th, 2010
5:56 pm

DOB

With Maddux, Glavine (should be locks), Frank Thomas and Jeff Kent, is there a limit to how many players can be elected during one HOF year?

I would not vote in Kent. I am unsure about Thomas. He was great but only great for about 5 years.

Fred

February 13th, 2010
5:56 pm

DOB, Thanks for the repsonse and it sucks that you have to leave your bike here in Atlanta. But it sounds like you should have a good time in Florida, despite the hard work and long hours. I guess the rest of us stuck at work can enjoy spring training vicariously through you.

Steve from OH

February 13th, 2010
5:57 pm

BTW–did you like Dio when he was with Sabbath? They made some pretty good records together, IMO.

StingerSplash

February 13th, 2010
5:57 pm

Looking at the Olympic Medal Tracker on the front page of ajc.com/sports … maybe Mr. Mellencamp’s song should have been “R-O-C-K in the ROK”, because someone gave the U.S. South Korea’s flag.

Lew

February 13th, 2010
5:58 pm

Grinch-The HOF must have figure that Purple’s busts portrayed on a Mt. Rushmore type mountain top on the In Rock cover was enshrinement enough.

Now THAT (DP In Rock) was a brutal Hard Rock album. Nothing but unabashed hell raising.

Lew

February 13th, 2010
6:01 pm

Steve – Have you heard the newest Black Sabbath and Dio CD from 09 Heaven and Hell: The Devil You Know? It’s their 30th anniversary tribute to the H&H album. Great stuff. Best Black Sabbath in years and easily equal to any of Dio’s solo stuff (Though Dio and Blackmore on the first 3 Rainbow cd’s is excellent, too). They’ve got Vinny Appice on drums on it – an old Dio alum.

Steve from OH

February 13th, 2010
6:05 pm

Lew–no, I haven’t. Love Appice’s drumming, too, so I should check it out. I really loved Cozy Powell’s drumming on Headless Cross, since we’re talking Sabbath. I also really liked Dehumanizer with Dio and Appice working with Iommi.

Lew

February 13th, 2010
6:06 pm

DOB-No problem on the ST info. However, maybe the Denizens should realize that it might be Chino Cadahia pitching BP part of the time. THAT’S usually the time to catch HR balls on the berm.

Steve from OH

February 13th, 2010
6:07 pm

Yeah, if you want to hear some good drumming, y’all should check out Powell’s work on Headless Cross. Superb.

Lew

February 13th, 2010
6:07 pm

Cozy Powell – Yet another rock star Resting in Peace. I believe a car accident got him.

Soph

February 13th, 2010
6:08 pm

UNC wins. I’m happy again…for now.

StingerSplash

February 13th, 2010
6:08 pm

My favorite sporting events, in no particular order:
Spring training baseball
Playoff baseball
Football bowl season (used to coexist with the I-AA playoffs … but since Southern hasn’t been in the playoffs since 05 … we’ll be back, though. Monken will get us there. Soon, I hope)
March Madness (the first two weekends especially)
The Masters (with the British Open right behind)
Stanley Cup playoffs (sudden death overtimes — with no commercial breaks! — that go into the morning … love it.)
Olympic hockey. (Canada vs. Sweden in the gold medal round. You heard it here first).
Can’t wait for Tuesday and the start of the Olympic hockey tournament. The downhill and alpine skiing are fun to watch but there’s no equal from the Olympics for hockey.

brent a.

February 13th, 2010
6:10 pm

lexbrave,

the crowd was very lowd; unfortunately, that’s not the same crowd that will be at the game. Kind of sad, really, that Rupp isn’t more of a home court advantage than it is.

I Want To Look Like That Guy

February 13th, 2010
6:11 pm

Steve from OH

February 13th, 2010
6:12 pm

Stinger–I’m taking Russia vs. Canada for the gold! What a great matchup that would be, with Russia’s forwards (Ovechkin, Semin, Datsyuk, Kovalchuk and Malkin) going up against that great Canadian defense anchored by Pronger…

nolie

February 13th, 2010
6:12 pm

With Maddux, Glavine (should be locks), Frank Thomas and Jeff Kent, is there a limit to how many players can be elected during one HOF year? ROB

there is not an official limit, but only seldom does more than one or at most two get elected in the same year amy more. Thomas is an eventual lock as is Alomar and Larkin. still dealing with Bly , Martinez and Raines and Morris, so it will be interesting to see if they start inducting more per year than usual

Lew

February 13th, 2010
6:14 pm

Steve – Cactus, with Vinnie’s brother Carmine Appice put out their first album in decades a year or two ago. Lacks the raw energy of the original Cactus stuff and of course, Rusty Day is also Resting In Peace, yet it is a fairly decent offering – much more well produced and engineered than the 70’s stuff without the manic quality – which was probably driven by excessive drug use. Still – some great music.

Lew

February 13th, 2010
6:16 pm

nolie- Don’t see how they could NOT induct Randy Johnson, Maddux and Glavine in the first go around. But they didn’t vote Sutton in right away despite his 300, so maybe RJ will not be a first ballot guy-though I would doubt it.

jeffrey d

February 13th, 2010
6:19 pm

With 5 Cy Youngs and a mullet that was breaking hearts across Seattle, I don’t see Randy Johnson not getting in on the first ballot.

Baba O'Riley

February 13th, 2010
6:19 pm

Why would Larkin be a lock? Alomar was THE second baseman of the 90’s. I don’t see Larkin getting in.

Lew

February 13th, 2010
6:23 pm

jeffrey d-Like I said- doubtful they wouldn’t. But those writers can be insane sometimes and you never know. Stranger things happen on these ballots continuously. Bet Maddux isn’t a unanimous choice either, though he should be. There will be some And Idiot claiming “No one ever has been unanimous and he can’t be either.”

Lew

February 13th, 2010
6:23 pm

Baba- Uh, Larkin played short.

Lew

February 13th, 2010
6:24 pm

Neither of them should have been first ballot guys, anyway. Just like Kent and Thomas won’t be.

jeffrey d

February 13th, 2010
6:26 pm

Bet Maddux isn’t a unanimous choice either, though he should be. There will be some And Idiot claiming “No one ever has been unanimous and he can’t be either.”

Of course he won’t. But the question isn’t “Should Greg Maddux be the first unanimous Hall of Famer?” The question is “Do you think Greg Maddux should be in the Hall of Fame?” And some bozo’s going to answer “No” to that.

Baba O'Riley

February 13th, 2010
6:26 pm

Lew- This I know. He brought up Larkin and Alomar. Alomar gets in because he was great and he dominated his position for a decade. Larkin has less than 200 HR and not even 2500 hits. Yes, I know Larkin was a ss

Lew

February 13th, 2010
6:30 pm

He was also a Twelve time All Star with an MVP award. He was the dominant SS in the NL for more than a decade.

njbraves

February 13th, 2010
6:30 pm

Maddux, Glavine, and randy Johnson are locks for first ballot election, it’s not even debatable. I believe Frank Thomas will get in on the first ballot too….. .301 career avg…..521 HR’s…..2 MVP’s…. I don’t see how he doesn’t get in.

Rob from SC

February 13th, 2010
6:30 pm

In order I would vote:
1 – Maddux
2 – Johnson
3 – Glavine

BravesFanChris25

February 13th, 2010
6:31 pm

I can’t wait till spring training finally begins so the season isn’t too far away :)

GovClintonTyree

February 13th, 2010
6:31 pm

Scene from Kissimmee, Part I:

Frank Wren is in his office at Dark Star. Tom Glavine walks in.

FW: Hey, Tom. Thanks for coming in. I’ve got a Special Project for you.

TG: Hey, Frank. F*** you.

GovClintonTyree

February 13th, 2010
6:32 pm

Scene from Kissimmee, Part II:

FW: So, Tom, John asked me to look around, see ways in which you might contribute to the organization given your unique experience and skillset. We’ve got a number of young pitchers in camp, and obviously have started forming some opinions on them. I’d like you to go to the back fields and watch Delgado, Teheran, Hyde and Kimbrel, tell me what you think. Here’s some scouting report forms.

TG: Gee, Frank, I’d like to, but James Jackson is sick so I’m filling in on SportSouth. See that family out there on the LF berm? I’ve got them lined up to talk about the food at the park and how convenient it is for a family to come over here from the Magic Kingdom.

FW: Tom, aren’t baseball-related matters more important?

TG: Hey, Frank. F*** you.

njbraves

February 13th, 2010
6:33 pm

Alomar was a much better player than Larkin. He got screwed last year because a lot of these baseball writers feel they need to have a cause or make some type of statement. Watch Alomar play and tell me he isn’t one of the greatest second baseman of all time…..HOF voting in all sports has become a joke.

GovClintonTyree

February 13th, 2010
6:33 pm

Scenes from Kissimmee, Part III:

FW: So, Tom, I’ve got a call with Boras at about 2 pm. He’s going to be asking for a second year, and I don’t want to give it to him. I know you’ve been involved in a number of negotiations yourself, I thought you might want to sit in. You might find it interesting to watch a master work.

TG: Frank, I hear the Tigers are going two years on Damon at $7m per. How are you going to top that?

FW: What I thought I’d do is sweeten the pot a little bit, go up to $5m. Johnny’s made his money, he doesn’t need to go the extra $2m. Then I thought I’d offer a mutual option for the second year with maybe a $1m buyout. Don’t give away any power; I can just cut him and Boras’ll never know what I’m doing. See, Tom, agents are idiots. And players are like cattle.

TG: Hey, Frank, F*** you.

GovClintonTyree

February 13th, 2010
6:33 pm

Scenes from Kissimmee, Part IV:

JS: Tom, I asked Frank to try and get you involved, kind of help you get your feet wet as a baseball executive. But Frank tells me you’ve been less than enthusiastic about several of the things he’s suggested.

TG: John, Frank’s an idiot. Why did you hire him?

JS: Well, Tom, I know he has his blind spots. But he’s a good baseball man with excellent judgement. Little rough with the interpersonal skills, I know. But after Dayton went to KC, what choice did I have?

TG: Go outside the organization, maybe? You couldn’t do better than this? The guy’s a bull in a china shop.

JS: Tom, you’re a smart guy. I’m one of the smartest guys in the world, so I understand your challenges. One of the things you’re going to need to do to be a successful baseball executive is learn how to deal with people less gifted, less committed, less intelligent than you. I would encourage you to set aside your prejudices against Frank and try and work with him. It’ll teach you a lot.

TG: Hey, John, f*** you.

Baba O'Riley

February 13th, 2010
6:34 pm

Maybe for a while, but not over a decade. Ozzie Smith was for a part of that time. His MVP season was .293/12/75.

GovClintonTyree

February 13th, 2010
6:34 pm

Scenes from Kissimmee, Part V:

JS: Tom, I know you’ve got some history with Frank, and it’s not all good. Heck, we’ve got some history, but we’ve managed to work through it. I’m sensing some unresolved anger here that’s going to hamper your development into a top-tier baseball executive. I’ll let you in on something. I kind of see you as a special project – an opportunity for me to clone myself as a baseball leader. In order for you to do that, you’re going to need to check that anger, starting with your language. This is a boardroom, not a clubhouse.

TG: Yeah, I suppose I can see that. I’ll work on it. And I’ll try to work with Frank, be a little more open-minded.

JS: I’d appreciate that. Thanks.

FW walks in.

FW: Hey, Tom. I need to run something by John. You mind getting me a cup of coffee, cream and Splenda?

TG: Hey, Frank….

IPayForAOL

February 13th, 2010
6:35 pm

Has anyone ever seen the HBO series called Carnivale? Opinions?

Rob from SC

February 13th, 2010
6:36 pm

GovClintonTyree

In all fairness to Frank Wren, Schuerholz got a lot dumber without Turner’s rich pockets

nolie

February 13th, 2010
6:37 pm

Don’t see how they could NOT induct Randy Johnson, Maddux and Glavine in the first go around. But they didn’t vote Sutton in right away despite his 300, so maybe RJ will not be a first ballot guy-though I would doubt it. LEW

yeah I forgot to include Johnson. it’s getting a little more crowded with legitimate prospects than it was for awhile. If I were voting I would vote Johnson in ahead of Glavine.
Some of the guys like Morris who have been hanging around for a long time might be hurt with an influx of seemingly more deserving guys over the next number of years.
I do think I remember reading that 2012 or so wouldn’t have a strong first time slate. Not sure of the exact year but one around that time.

The Grinch

February 13th, 2010
6:41 pm

Yeah, Steve; I started to include the second video except that I thought about all but five of y’all would have just cocked your head to the side like a confused dog the first time it sees a power car window in use. Got a copy of “Black Sabbath: The Dio Years” in my car changer right now. Also liked Powell on Headless Cross, but it took me a bit to get used to Tony Martin on vocals. Not that he isn’t good, it’s just weird hearing someone besides Ozzy or Dio with Iommi. Did you like Powell with ELP when he replaced Palmer? Remember “Touch and Go?” Cold war paranoia at its best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5K5uUl2Tb8

nolie

February 13th, 2010
6:42 pm

Why would Larkin be a lock? Alomar was THE second baseman of the 90’s. I don’t see Larkin getting in BABA

LOL, what does Larkin have to do with second basemen?
He received 51% of the votes on his first try, that pretty much guarantees he’ll eventually get in and he should. Best NL SS for a good while.12time all-star or so, MVP. Don’t talk foolish about homers for a SS in that era. He’s a lock no doubt. Just hide & watch for 5 or 6 years.

Eric from MO

February 13th, 2010
6:45 pm

Jeffrey you ever thought what if every voter thought that and no one voted yes for him and then he would forever be left off the ballot?

Baba O'Riley

February 13th, 2010
6:48 pm

nolie- I was comparing 2 of the guys you originally brought up. did that really make you “LOL”? Larkin was a very good SS that played with one team. His numbers in ‘95 were relatively pedestrian for an MVP. Maybe he’ll ride some feel-good media wave in the future, but he is far from a lock.

njbraves

February 13th, 2010
6:48 pm

I hate the fact that guys get into the HOF after 5, 6 , 7 years….it’s completely ridiculous. If they aren’t good enough after 2 or 3 years then that should be it. I can understand making first ballot election something special. However, what makes a guy any more deserving after 5 or more years?? The HOF wants to hold a ceremony every year so they are watering down the quality of the selections.

nolie

February 13th, 2010
6:49 pm

Maybe for a while, but not over a decade. Baba

sign. he was an allstar 12 times. last time I looked it up 12 years was more than a decade. 3 GG, 5 SS

Eric from MO

February 13th, 2010
6:50 pm

Nolie Randy Johnson played last year. He wont be eligible till 2015 so he wont be on the list with Glavine, Maddux, and Frank Thomas. You were right the first time.lol

Baba O'Riley

February 13th, 2010
6:51 pm

Speaking of HOF’s, what is with guys like Floyd Little getting in the Pro Football HOF, while Cris Carter still waits. Watching those Viking teams of the late 90’s, did anyone think john Randle would be a HOFer before Cris Carter?

Steve from OH

February 13th, 2010
6:52 pm

Grinch–that was a very interesting sound Powell, Emerson and Lake had, to say the least. Martin was just a bit too…clean in his vocals for me for a Sabbath singer, but dang it if he wasn’t a good singer.

Yngwie’s solo on that Hear n’ Aid thing was pretty sick, no?

nolie

February 13th, 2010
6:52 pm

Maybe he’ll ride some feel-good media wave in the future, but he is far from a lock. Baba

yeah it made me lol since it had nothing to do with anything. you need to go check on how many players got over 50% of the vote the first time and then did not make the HOF, dude. Absolute freakin’ lock.

Eric from MO

February 13th, 2010
6:54 pm

njbraves I agree with that to an extent. Sometimes it takes players awhile to get with who else is on the ballot. However, IMO it shouldnt matter who else is on the ballot. You are voting for that player and that player only. Same thing with the whole unanimous thing. You are not voting on Maddux should be unanimous. You are voting should he be in the HOF and nobody can say no to that.

Heath

February 13th, 2010
6:54 pm

brent a./lexbrave -

Excited about tonight’s game. Really need to have it too. Don’t want to fall into a tie with Vandy since we still have to go to Nashville. I’m a little worried….

Baba O'Riley

February 13th, 2010
6:54 pm

sign? Was he the starter all 12 of those all-star appearances?

Lew

February 13th, 2010
6:57 pm

Maybe Larkin’s career did overlap Ozzie somewhat, but 12 All Star selections? Apparently Ozzie wasn’t that good in those seasons or HE would have been the All Star SS? Even if you call the All Star voting nothing more than a popularity contest, it was awfully hard to find a more popular player than Ozzie.

Baba O'Riley

February 13th, 2010
6:59 pm

Ozzie was an all star from 81-96. I’m not sure who started which years.

jeffrey d

February 13th, 2010
6:59 pm

Jeffrey you ever thought what if every voter thought that and no one voted yes for him and then he would forever be left off the ballot?

Not that that would ever happen, but it could be a blessing in disguise

Lew

February 13th, 2010
6:59 pm

What does it matter if he was the starter? Never heard anyone ever mention that in reference to HOF credentials -it’s always “12 time AS.” and not 12 time AS but he only started one. He was an All Star and there’s always deserving players NOT voted to the AS team in any capacity. That’s all that matters.

Did this guy run your dog over or something?

Baba O'Riley

February 13th, 2010
7:00 pm

Who else was to choose from in the NL? Jay Bell?

Baba O'Riley

February 13th, 2010
7:01 pm

No, I just don’t see him as a HOFer. I think of all the all-time greats and I don’t think of Larkin. Barry or Gene. Just friendly disagreement.

Eric from MO

February 13th, 2010
7:02 pm

Baba quit seriously. What does starting the all-star game have to do with anything? That is done by fan voting. How many times do we see the fans vote somebody a starter when they had been hurt most the year or they were having an off year? Umm…every year. Seriously just quit. Larkin was the best ss for over a decade. He was a ss before shortstops were on roids and hitting a ton of homeruns.

AdirondackDave

February 13th, 2010
7:02 pm

DOB — FW giving you advice on your Harley storage problem… is he a biker?

Lew

February 13th, 2010
7:03 pm

njbraves-Watering down the HOF? Dude, you DO realize that of all sports HOF’s that the Baseball HOF is the hardest for a player to be elected to? They’re too discriminating in many people’s opinions.

The Grinch

February 13th, 2010
7:05 pm

There are very few Yngwie solos that AREN’T sick. The guy’s a d-bag, but he can flat out shred. You ever watch him on the G3 tour? Check out Satriani and Vai ganging up on him at the end when he goes out of his way to outplay them; he’s taking it really seriously and they’re trippin out. Got to check on my food; I’ll link to it when I get back.

jeffrey d

February 13th, 2010
7:06 pm

I don’t think fans pick the starter

nolie

February 13th, 2010
7:07 pm

you are still ignoring the 51%. It doesn’t matter what you think of the guy, he is a lock for that reason alone.\
3 Gold Gloves, 9-count ‘em 9 Silver Sluggers(for half his career he was the top hitting SS in the NL), 380 stolen bases. a top OPS of 977 which was very high for an NL SS in that era,

nolie

February 13th, 2010
7:10 pm

LEW you’ve given me some inspiration to get back on a diet for five days now. Keep up the good work, I need the leadership. :)

Steve from OH

February 13th, 2010
7:17 pm

Yeah, he’s a prick, but he can play…

Braveheart

February 13th, 2010
7:18 pm

The HOF isn’t just for the all time greatest. It’s also for the greatest of their era or generation. I swear so many think only Ted Williams, Mickey Mantle, Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb belong in the HOF

VaBraveFan

February 13th, 2010
7:18 pm

Larkin should be in the HOF for sure. His numbers and awards for a SS in that time period are HOF worthy.

Rob from SC

February 13th, 2010
7:27 pm

Ozzie Smith does not belong in the HOF

spitter?

February 13th, 2010
7:29 pm

Dibn’t Alomar have a spittin incident with an ump and would it, should it have some kind of consiquence when it comes to HOF voting?

Fred

February 13th, 2010
7:32 pm

Just to add to the HOF discussion, I don’t think Glavine is a first year lock (Maddux obviously is, in my opinion). There have been several pitchers like Niekro and Sutton who won 300+ games yet weren’t elected on the first ballot.

Heath

February 13th, 2010
7:50 pm

DOB -

At 8…you watching the Olympics or the Jayhawks?

brian

February 13th, 2010
8:00 pm

Heath – is that a rhetorical question????

Heath

February 13th, 2010
8:01 pm

brian -

To what are you referring, sir?

brian

February 13th, 2010
8:02 pm

Knucksie and Sutton are not in the same category as Glavine. How many lefties have more wins than Glavine? Knucksie, I believe, was hurt by playing much of his career for terrible Braves teams

Lew

February 13th, 2010
8:04 pm

nolie-Never thought I’d be inspiration for much of anything. Good luck.

To all who might be concerned- Them Crooked Vultures are on Austin City Limits (on PBS) this evening at 10:00 (at least up here they are.

AdirondackDave

February 13th, 2010
8:05 pm

Rob — The Wizard of OZ doesn’t belong in the Hall? The best defensive infielder of all time doesn’t belong? Think you might get an argument there from.. well, everybody.

AdirondackDave

February 13th, 2010
8:08 pm

Ok, have to amend that. Wizard of Oz was only tied for the best defensive infielder of all time. Momentarily forgot about Brooks, the vacuum-cleaner at 3rd.

IPayForAOL

February 13th, 2010
8:09 pm

WRT Knucksie,
His career Neutral Win % is 0.552, giving him a 327-265 NW-NL record as a result of posting a 0.537 W% (318-274) on teams in which his teammates posted a 0.470 W%. So yeah, he probably was hurt by playing much of his career for terrible Braves teams.

Rob from SC

February 13th, 2010
8:11 pm

AdirondackDave

He couldn’t hit.

Lew

February 13th, 2010
8:13 pm

Big difference between Glavine and Niekro/Sutton.

Glavine won 20 or more games 5 times-Sutton once and Niekro three times.

Niekro had 75 more losses than Glavine in two more seasons. Sutton had 58 more losses than Glavine in one more season.

Glavine won two Cy Young awards. Niekro and Sutton never won any.

Lew

February 13th, 2010
8:15 pm

brian also makes a good point about Glavine and LH pitchers. Very few LH pitchers have won 300 games and only a couple won more than Glavine.

AdirondackDave

February 13th, 2010
8:16 pm

Rob — Stole a lot of bases and became an asset as an offensive player. Not that it mattered, the glove was unbelievable.

Coach (2011 or Bust)

February 13th, 2010
8:23 pm

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Venice Jim

February 13th, 2010
8:30 pm

Heath – looking like another good day for me – nice win over the Terps, and the Tribe up 16 in the second half…

And, if the fourth winningest left-handed pitcher in baseball history is not a lock (and Eddie Plank, #3, won his prior to 1915), then the voters will need major psychiatric care…

Anthony

February 13th, 2010
8:30 pm

DOB,

Guys on the blog were nice about info for spring training. I had to step away while I watched my gators play basketball tongiht (or attempt to play basketball). They have no talent on their team this year. It’s embarassing.

Anthony

February 13th, 2010
8:32 pm

DOB,

Also, I’ve been a braves for as long as I can remember. I really enjoy reading your work on the ajc site and your blog. I don’t live in atl so can’t make as many games I would like to, but reading your work makes me feel like i’m at the park everyday. Thanks.

Soph

February 13th, 2010
8:33 pm

McFann, isn’t this a cute pic? I found it in AJC’s snow pics.

http://projects.ajc.com/gallery/view/metro/atlanta-snow-021310/

Soph

February 13th, 2010
8:34 pm

Click to picture 16 of 19 though.

Venice Jim

February 13th, 2010
8:36 pm

At this rate, the Canadian women’s hockey team will beat Slovakia 22-0…(7-0 in the FIRST period)

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