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Bravissimo
February 17th, 2010
10:49 am
DOB…since you cant take your bike to ST….maybe you could rent a segway with a basket on the front for bbq sandwiches and drinks.
koolmap
February 17th, 2010
10:49 am
so how much time is jurrjins going to miss guys?
David O'Brien
February 17th, 2010
10:50 am
GOOD NEWS FOR BRAVES: Jurrjens’ MRI looks great, only some mild inflammation. Should be able to start throwing program in about a week, just needs some physical therapy, etc.
Rotator cuff and labrum looked normal, no tissue damage or anything else. Just a little inflammation from resumption of throwing and a little bit of an awkward throw that he made last week.
DAP
February 17th, 2010
10:50 am
owl hunter, nomar had very similar OPS to garrett anderson last year. as a guy who still hits for pretty good average, i think he would be ok as a 3rd string back up and bat off the bench. he is almost a versatile in the field and would give you more with the bat than other options like joe thurston or diory hernandez.
Al for ATL
February 17th, 2010
10:51 am
Somone posted a pretty pessimistic one upthread about how the MRI will be negative, JJ will nonetheless have decreased velocity in the pre-season, will struggle early on and then go on to have season ending surgery before the all-star break. DOB promptly slapped his hand for it, but I have to admit, that is definitely my fear as well. How many guys have started complaining about some soreness some place and then ended up with surgery (I think Mike Gonzalez is a good example).
Question now – will the Braves shut him down for a while or take any other precautions?
Winterville
February 17th, 2010
10:52 am
Thanks TnPaul, I have seen O Brother Where Art Thou? and Burn After Reading but I forgot to mention them. I will defintely check out some of those others though.
koolmap
February 17th, 2010
10:52 am
jurrjins only out one week is very good news
BBFCFM
February 17th, 2010
10:53 am
hot diggity that’s some good news
owl hunter
February 17th, 2010
10:53 am
DAP, I guess, but do we really want to spend 1mil on him (assuming that’s what it will take)? I know it doesn’t sound like much, but if he fails, we eat that money, and that could hamper in-season deals. I’ve heard that he may be retiring anyway.
6-4-3
February 17th, 2010
10:54 am
Time for the happy dance!
NEW CARS
February 17th, 2010
10:54 am
All you psychotherapists and morticians can go back to what you were doing now, and just wait for Chipper to hurt his back putting his sanitaries on
Soph
February 17th, 2010
10:54 am
Thanks for the update, DOB. Good to hear.
AtTheMike
February 17th, 2010
10:54 am
owl hunter– I’d be willing to bet a lot of those “crazy” people posting on Bradley’s blogs are the same positive fans posting here on o’brien’s. They’re just using different names.
Wanna bet?
David O'Brien
February 17th, 2010
10:55 am
Braves don’t even think he’ll be behind other pitchers at all, since he should be throwing again by next week.
This is HUGE NEWS for Braves, obviously.
owl hunter
February 17th, 2010
10:56 am
Good news on JJ. I think he’ll be fine, although I have nothing to base that on, as I am not a doctor, team official, or confidant. I think everyone has soreness when they’re getting back to business. With JJ’s value, the Braves were smart to take the precaution. At least we’re not the Mets. They probably would have accused him of lying.
Josh from Columbus
February 17th, 2010
10:57 am
GREAT NEWS ON J.J.!
As DAP said, you’re missing a second middle-infield backup, which Bobby always carries. That could be Joe Thurston; I think that’s why Braves signed him this winter, with that in mind more than Gwinnett. But we’ll see.
LOL, remember Jeff Treadway, Rafael Belliard, etc.? In ‘95 Jeff Blauser got hurt and Belliard carried us to the ’ship!
owl hunter
February 17th, 2010
10:59 am
AtTheMike
I was just curious. It’s possible, I guess. I admit I threw up in my mouth a little when I saw the original MRI news, but people over there we’re acting as though we need to fire Wren, gut the team, and wait til ‘14. It seems a little less reactionary over here.
bravesgrl4life
February 17th, 2010
11:00 am
That is great news about JJ. Saw it on FaceBook before I came here, but very glad to confirm.
AtTheMike
February 17th, 2010
11:03 am
Have to agree with o’brien here– it’s pretty big time news because in my eyes there was no more consistant pitcher on the braves last year than jj. Game in,game out HE was the one giving you so many innings and chances to win.
Even hanson and javy weren’t as consistant and that’s sayin something.
koolmap
February 17th, 2010
11:05 am
dob will any position players show up to spring training early? like they said that derek jeter is already at yankees spring training.
DAP
February 17th, 2010
11:05 am
owl hunter but do we really want to spend 1mil on him (assuming that’s what it will take)?
yeah, i dont know. im not saying the braves MUST sign him. no one who is going to fill the 25th spot on your roster is a must have. i just dont think he is totally washed up, especially in a limited role for a team.
owl hunter
February 17th, 2010
11:07 am
DAP
I just looked at what free agent SS are left. Pretty grim. I’d take Nomar for 500k if they think he’ll last the season.
joerochester
February 17th, 2010
11:12 am
like they said that derek jeter is already at yankees spring training.
He has in image to uphold. Of course he shows up early. He needs to be thought of as the hardest working SS in the league.
dmack2027
February 17th, 2010
11:14 am
Now that we can all exhale re: JJ I have a question about Damon. Let me see if I have my facts right. News comes out that the Braves have made an offer to Damon. Then, several other teams make offers (though we do not know for how much). Then, John Schurholtz is on XM radio saying that Wren is engaged in talks with Damon’s people. Since that time, there has been no news.
DOB, do you think the Braves made a counter offer? All of the recent news about Damon involves the Chisox and Tigers, but do you get the sense that the Braves are still engaged?
joerochester
February 17th, 2010
11:14 am
Verducci is salivating over this Jurrjens situation because of his “Verducci Effect.”
jeffrey d
February 17th, 2010
11:15 am
oh…I see we’re all over here
koolmap
February 17th, 2010
11:15 am
well im just asking if chipper , yunel, mclouth show up on friday just like the pithcers and catchers
koolmap
February 17th, 2010
11:17 am
who knows anything about damon. i dont trust anyones report anymore. until i see it come out on the bottom of espn that johhny damon signs with whoever. thats when i will believe it.
AtTheMike
February 17th, 2010
11:19 am
owl hunter– they also have a pretty negative guy heading things over there, mark bradley. He won’t correct them and give a good outlook on things like o’brien does here. If anything–bradley feeds their anger.
Macon Braves (RIP)
February 17th, 2010
11:23 am
Great news on JJJ!! I guess the sky isn’t falling after all….
David O'Brien
February 17th, 2010
11:26 am
koolmap, there’s always a few Braves position players in camp several days before they’re due, usually guys who live down in Florida like Matt Diaz and Schafer (who lives here now, but whose parents live real close to Dark Star, just down the road in Haines City).
Chipper always goes down early, at least a few days.
bravofan
February 17th, 2010
11:26 am
could damon just sign somewhere please im tired of hearing about him!!!!
David O'Brien
February 17th, 2010
11:28 am
dmack: I’ve got no indication of a counter-offer made by Braves, not in my recent discussions with Boras (and obviously no indication from Braves, who aren’t talking about it).
Shanks A Lot
February 17th, 2010
11:30 am
Damon just needs to sign with someone. I don’t care if it’s the Nippon Ham Fighters at this point.
Marc in FL
February 17th, 2010
11:30 am
It is great news about JJ, but the law of average will catch up to us. We will have a starter go down at some point this season, hopefully Medlen can be a strong substitute for us, later in the season we could possibly even use Minor.
Anthony
February 17th, 2010
11:30 am
Now all those fans that thought the world was ending can breath a sigh of relief about JJ. Seemed like everybody went nuts there for a bit over something the braves obviously weren’t that worried about.
David O'Brien
February 17th, 2010
11:31 am
From FRANK WREN about Jurrjens MRI: “We expected the tests to be normal and we were not concerned. We always try to err on the side if caution when treating our players and use these types of tests to pinpoint the diagnosis to give them the specific treatment necessary.”
owl hunter
February 17th, 2010
11:31 am
ESPN had the JJ story, but only because it was a slow news day.
Hillbilly
February 17th, 2010
11:35 am
Koolmap, I want to say Matt Diaz usually shows up early. At least he did last year.
Soph
February 17th, 2010
11:35 am
oh…I see we’re all over here
Were you talking to yourself somewhere else?
jeffrey d
February 17th, 2010
11:39 am
Well, there’s another blog…but I don’t know if it’s supposed to be up yet
bravofan
February 17th, 2010
11:39 am
jeffrey d: how do you know?
Lew
February 17th, 2010
11:42 am
AtTheMIke-I’m almost 59. And Dude, it ain’t the age, it’s the mileage. 20 Years of diabetes has taken a toll. I hope I make it to 76. Working on it.
Nova Scotia Steve
February 17th, 2010
11:42 am
Thanks Dave,
By all that’s holy…I made out okay with this girl i met last night after watching the Canada/Norway men’s hockey team at a local bar.
And we had great conversation etc. But on my mind – was the status of Jair Jurrjens shoulder…
Is this normal?
jeffrey d
February 17th, 2010
11:43 am
How do I know? It’s on the AJC sports page. It’s been up since last night
jeffrey d
February 17th, 2010
11:44 am
Here’s what DOB said about it
Most people are still on the other blog, the Damon/Heyward blog. It’s difficult to explain, but this is a new format we’re getting ready for at AJC that caused this odd transition stage where story showed up as the main new blog. It won’t in future, but new blog page will have the main blog as “focal point” and all the newsy notes and stories as separate entries on same page. But that’s not until a few more days. For now, it resulted in this situation where some of you got diverted to this story thinking it was a new main blog, when it’s not.
VOR
February 17th, 2010
11:45 am
News report: “A magnitude 2.7 tremor was felt in downtown Atlanta Wednesday morning. Initially thought to be a small earthquake, it was later discovered to be due to a multitude of Braves fans simultaneously climbing in from their ledges.”
M.
February 17th, 2010
11:46 am
do you think if jason heward stays in minors until june. that melky diaz mclouth will hold down the fort offensively til then. would they need help?
SoWeGa Fanatic
February 17th, 2010
11:49 am
Wheeew…
Hillbilly
February 17th, 2010
11:52 am
Most people are still on the other blog, the Damon/Heyward blog. It’s difficult to explain, but this is a new format we’re getting ready for at AJC that caused this odd transition stage where story showed up as the main new blog. It won’t in future, but new blog page will have the main blog as “focal point” and all the newsy notes and stories as separate entries on same page. But that’s not until a few more days. For now, it resulted in this situation where some of you got diverted to this story thinking it was a new main blog, when it’s not.
-Charlie Bowdre: “Hey, Chavez, how come they ain’t killing us?”
-Dirty Steve: “We’re in the spirit world, @##hole. They can’t see us.”
Saff
February 17th, 2010
11:52 am
Now that Jurrjens is fine how about all those who doomed the season, next time don’t jump to conclusioms.
Frankie Knuckles
February 17th, 2010
11:52 am
Cool as a polar bear’s toenails.
Frank Robinson (Rockmart)
February 17th, 2010
11:53 am
VOR, Funny.
2010 25-man roster 2/17/10
February 17th, 2010
11:53 am
C – McCann
1B – Glaus
2B – Prado
SS – Escobar
3B – Jones
LF – Diaz
CF – McLouth
RF – Heyward
UTL – Cabrera
UTL – Infante
UTL – Hinske
UTL – Ross
UTL – Thurston
SP – Lowe
SP – Hudson
SP – Jurrjens
SP – Hanson
SP – Kawakami
CL – Wagner
RP – Saito
RP – Moylan
RP – O’Flaherty
RP – Medlen
RP – Chavez/Dunn/Resop/Kimbrel/Gomez/Valdez/Hyde/Reyes
RP – Chavez/Dunn/Resop/Kimbrel/Gomez/Valdez/Hyde/Reyes
beastmode
February 17th, 2010
11:55 am
How do all the pri maddonas feel now, that said the season was over before the results even came out.
sidslidkid
February 17th, 2010
11:56 am
At least that little scare made more Braves fans realize how valuable a young pitcher like JJ is.
Anyone think....
February 17th, 2010
11:56 am
….that both Melky Cabrera AND Matt Diaz will be non tendered a contract next offseason? 3.1 million and 2.5 million this year. Spending 7-8 million in 2011 for these two would be a little much……
DirtyYuni
February 17th, 2010
11:57 am
For you baseball history buffs out there, there’s a really cool article about the Boston Braves and a unique uniform here:
http://baseballresearcher.blogspot.com/2010/02/rabbit-maranville-is-not-nazi.html
Got it off Neyer’s wangdoodles list.
Good read.
David O'Brien
February 17th, 2010
11:59 am
Talked to Jurrjens while he was in the airport while ago: “I was a little worried until I got the MRI results. When the trainer said, ‘You need to fly to Atlanta for an MRI,’ that’s scary.”
But after hearing he has only inflammation and should be able to resume throwing in a matter of days, Jurrjens predicted he wouldn’t be behind other Braves pitchers.
“I’ve been throwing from the mound since the end of December, so I don’t think missing a couple of days will affect on me. I’m not going to be behind at all.”
bravofan
February 17th, 2010
12:05 pm
dob: as always thanks for the latest info. this is the only place I know to get to get info like this keep up the good work!
Radio Cure
February 17th, 2010
12:17 pm
DOB, the reporter that you spoke to from the Tampa market about MFIKY, was that Mark Topkin? (2 papers in this market). Because I live down here and I’ll totally work on getting that name to stick. I’ll make a t-shirt
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
February 17th, 2010
12:20 pm
It won’t happen, BUT just to have another bat off the bench….Nomar might not be so bad of an idea, if he could be had for cheap.
Elon Brave
February 17th, 2010
12:29 pm
DOB, I was just reading the ESPN fantasy projections for this year and it shows Prado hitting 9 dingers. What are the chances of his BP power showing up in the HR column? Is he capable of 15 or 20?
MDbrave
February 17th, 2010
12:30 pm
I have to admit that I’m not totally relieved by the news that JJ’s MRI looks ok. We need to see whether his shoulder’s getting better after rest and whether it lingers. The shadow of MG and TH last couple of years, where the docs could not detect anything wrong but the players could not perform well, just doesn’t go away easily.
Andy K.
February 17th, 2010
12:34 pm
Frank from KS, If Damon is not going to happen, it looks as though it won’t but you never know…then I would mind throwing some money in Nomar’s direction for a bench role. Would be serviceable off bench and can play first, third, and a little short. I’m sure he could persuade Sammons to give up # 5.
Andy K.
February 17th, 2010
12:37 pm
MDbrave, yes but they did detect something wrong. He has shoulder inflammation, which isn’t really a cause for concern, it’s usual this time of year. Or any time for these guys, at that matter. If I remember correctly, Kawakami had some at one point last year.
DAP
February 17th, 2010
12:38 pm
N8, if youre here, did you happen to watch LOST last night?
ncscoots
February 17th, 2010
12:43 pm
The shadow of MG and TH last couple of years, where the docs could not detect anything wrong but the players could not perform well, just doesn’t go away easily.
Live in fear, and fear is your life. Who needs that?
I mean, if the MRI had shown some massive damage, you would have believed that, yes? Why is the procedure any less credible because the news is good, LOL?
I now imagine that when Jurrjens comes back to earth a little this year on his BABIP and stranded runners, we’ll hear lots of doomsayers bringing up this MRI from February, notioning that “I don’t care what the MRI said, the kid’s not right!” But I’m just guessing here.
Andrew in PA
February 17th, 2010
12:44 pm
real good news,thanks Dave.
Hillbilly
February 17th, 2010
12:46 pm
Live in fear, and fear is your life. Who needs that?
“Living in fear is just another way of dying before your time.” –Mike Cooley
Lew
February 17th, 2010
12:47 pm
scoots-Educated guess, IMO.
ncscoots
February 17th, 2010
12:50 pm
[Nomah] Would be serviceable off bench and can play first, third, and a little short.
How many more guys who can back up the corners do the Braves need, LOL? They need somebody who can back up 2B and SS, other than Infante. 6 is not going into the season with just one extra middle infielder; at least, he hasn’t previously.
And whoever that guy might be, he’s going to suck up all of about 120 PAs next season. Paying that roster position more than the minimum is probably not too economically smart.
Fischerking04
February 17th, 2010
12:52 pm
“Time to change has come and gone Watched your fears become your god It’s your decision”–Jerry Cantrell
ncscoots
February 17th, 2010
12:52 pm
Hillbilly, I always said Cooley was a better poet than I, LOL. That’s a good one.
Andy K.
February 17th, 2010
12:53 pm
nscoots, personally I’m a Brooks Conrad or Matt Young (He can play Middle INF) supporter, just thought I’d elaborate on the Nomar idea…
MDbrave
February 17th, 2010
12:54 pm
ncscoots-
It’s concern, not fear. There’s a difference there. Besides, your remarks disregards the common sense that when a diagnostic result is positive, i.e. showing damages, etc, of course I, and you, should believe it, but when it’s negative, the only conclusion is it’s inconclusive. Is that not true in the cases of MG and TH?
BigBadBrave
February 17th, 2010
12:55 pm
DOB
When you talked to Jair did you get the chance to find out why he was pitching in a game in Cauaco in the first place?
David O'Brien
February 17th, 2010
12:56 pm
Radio Cure: yes, it was Topkin.
Elon Brave: Yes, Prado is certainly capable of hitting 15 or more homers.
ncscoots
February 17th, 2010
12:56 pm
Andy, no problema, my man. Anybody who has ever seen Nomar’s at-bat routine has to be a fan, LOL.
Don’t know that I’d run out looking for that Brooks Conrad jersey just yet, though.
DAP
February 17th, 2010
12:56 pm
scoots And whoever that guy might be, he’s going to suck up all of about 120 PAs next season. Paying that roster position more than the minimum is probably not too economically smart.
you are right about this. i vote for diory hernandez to get the 25th spot.
Andrew in PA
February 17th, 2010
12:57 pm
It nice to see that Jair really cares about pitching. He was uneasy the past couple days,he only is worried because he cares. Gonna be a stud for years.
David O'Brien
February 17th, 2010
12:57 pm
BigBadBrave: A lot of the the Curacao minor and major leaguers, past and present, get together to play some casual games before they report to spring training. Not a big deal. Certainly nothing like the risks involved in even the shortest commitment to winter ball.
Andy K.
February 17th, 2010
1:01 pm
nscoots…but I mean c’mon man! The dude has an awesome name! Brooks Conrad…lol
BigBadBrave
February 17th, 2010
1:01 pm
Does Andruw play in those games?
ncscoots
February 17th, 2010
1:02 pm
but when [the MRI is] negative, the only conclusion is it’s inconclusive.
I’d hate to think it’s inconclusive when my doc tells me, “No, you don’t have prostate cancer.”, because, bubba, I won’t be asking for any second opinions. Or for the procedure that would go with them, LOL.
And who is TH? I’m blank on that.
David O'Brien
February 17th, 2010
1:02 pm
Can’t believe I hadn’t heard more about or watched an episode of new FX show Archer, until I saw it last night on OnDemand. Hilarious. Entirely politically incorrect and certainly offensive to many, I’m sure. I really liked it. Never been big on animated shows, but this joins a list of strong ones — Family Guy, The Cleveland Show, and of course The Simpsons.
Lew
February 17th, 2010
1:02 pm
Yeah-with a name like Brooks Conrad, he could be a movie star. Now if he could only play ML baseball.
Lew
February 17th, 2010
1:02 pm
scoots-Tim Hudson?
David O'Brien
February 17th, 2010
1:03 pm
BigBadBrave: Not sure about Andruw, but doubtful since he’s lived in Atlanta for many years.
By the way, heard this about Andruw: He’s lost about 20 or more pounds this winter. Spent some time at training facility that Boras operates for his clients in Newport Beach, Calif.
Andy K.
February 17th, 2010
1:04 pm
Lew, obviously he’s nothing more than a bench guy, methinks, but he’s one of those small scrappy guys that sometimes ya just gotta root for…
dpelfrey
February 17th, 2010
1:04 pm
Matt Young played some 2B, but I don’t think he can play shortstop, so I would imagine Conrad & Thurston would have the upper hand in that competition. The Braves gave Conrad a lot of work at short last year in Gwinnett, so I think they definitely had him in mind for this role at the end of the last year. But now that they’ve signed Thurston, I would imagine the job is his to lose, particularly considering he has more mlb experience.
ncscoots
February 17th, 2010
1:05 pm
Andy, true that on the Brookster’s name, LOL. No talent worthy of it, but, still…
There were great baseball names in winter ball a couple of years ago, I mean, even moreso than usual. Not that I can remember any of them now, naturally.
N8
February 17th, 2010
1:07 pm
DAP, I did. What’s your brain telling you? About half way through that episode, I told my wife that they better start going somewhere with it. Because I expected this season to be non-stop action and answers and it’s been pretty damn slow so far.
The last portion of the episode with Sawyer and Locke (you know what I mean), picked up the pace a bit. I have the feeling it should start picking up soon. I hope, anyhow.
Andrew in PA
February 17th, 2010
1:08 pm
The Kentucky highlights were great.
CB
February 17th, 2010
1:08 pm
Ryan Freel,guys,it has got to be Ryan Freel!
ncscoots
February 17th, 2010
1:09 pm
Thanks, Lew. TH=Tim Hudson, got it.
dpelfrey
February 17th, 2010
1:09 pm
I gut instinct is Thurston will on the opening day 25-man, but like most of you, I’m pulling for Brooks.
Andrew in PA
February 17th, 2010
1:10 pm
Why was Steph Curry playing nervous last night.
dpelfrey
February 17th, 2010
1:10 pm
Is Chris Woodward still available. He did pretty well here last time.
ncscoots
February 17th, 2010
1:11 pm
Ryan Freel,guys,it has got to be Ryan Freel!
Somebody shoot CB, before he can invade ST with that bleep, LOL.