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The Grinch
February 16th, 2010
2:17 am
215 innings is a lot from a 23 year old.
And what’s up with women; I just went through some $%#@ I ought not to have. But that’s hardly news.
KC
February 16th, 2010
2:21 am
Grinchy,you have mail. G’night y’all.
KC
February 16th, 2010
2:22 am
Grinchy, how many times have I told you that, after you’ve had a few, you shouldn’t take her word for it when she tells you she’s a woman. That’s how you always get into trouble!
Choppinmama
February 16th, 2010
2:23 am
: don’t you really mean “with some women”?
Choppinmama
February 16th, 2010
2:25 am
The Grinch : that was meant for you…….
The Grinch
February 16th, 2010
2:28 am
Yeah, but when that happens she has no legal power…besides, that’s how I met your wife and it hasn’t seemed to produce any problems…I mean other than your “son.”
The Grinch
February 16th, 2010
2:33 am
Yes, Choppinmomma. I certainly don’t mean to imply you’re all evil, only most. And she is a particularly bad example. There are always exceptions, and the women here are a prime example.
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
February 16th, 2010
2:33 am
N8
Nice @ 8:27 p.m.
Your *Major League II* ala Tom Glavine….(LOL).
The Grinch
February 16th, 2010
2:34 am
Certainly including yourself, of course.
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
February 16th, 2010
2:34 am
Grinch
Where ya from? if ya don’t mind me askin’
The Grinch
February 16th, 2010
2:37 am
Born in the N. Ga. mountains. Clarkesville, to be exact. But I’ve been around.
Extremely Desperate Ugly Woman
February 16th, 2010
2:38 am
I ♥ Grinch ♥♥♥♥♥
The Grinch
February 16th, 2010
2:41 am
EDUW, you’ll have your chance when I get old and ugly in 30-40 years…no, probably not upon further consideration. Thanks for playing, though!
Choppinmama
February 16th, 2010
2:46 am
Grinch: sorry for your women troubles. Life’s too short, right?
I’ve enjoyed peeking in to the blg over the winter dead zone, you and the other denizens have kept it rolling right along. Getting back into blogging form now that the season is near……hope my labrum holds up.
Extremely Desperate Ugly Woman's Boyfriend
February 16th, 2010
2:48 am
Grinch, that wasn’t very nice dude. I don’t know what EDUW sees in you at all.She is too good for you anyway!
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
February 16th, 2010
2:49 am
Grinch
Hey, that’s cool. I’ve had my share of women troubles, myself…so welcome to the club, my friend (LOL).
The Grinch
February 16th, 2010
3:02 am
Choppinmama, thanks for understanding. And Frank, thanks too but it ain’t THAT bad.
EDUWB, she probably sees a heterosexual male for the first time…it may be a dramatic change to her so cut her some slack.
The Future
February 16th, 2010
7:21 am
Jurrjens being out for the year is a crushing blow to this teams playoff chances.
The Future
February 16th, 2010
7:21 am
…….and the future of the Braves.
Matt
February 16th, 2010
8:20 am
Jurrjens shoulder is hurting??? How in the hell could the Braves front office have NOT known about this before they traded Vazquez for a bag of balls?? Really, really poor front office work by this franchise.
sidslidkid
February 16th, 2010
8:26 am
“…they traded Vazquez for a bag of balls” – Matt
Come on dude. We upgraded the pen by swapping Boone Logan for Mike Dunn in the deal. Plus we got Melky and Arodys Vizcaino, the Yankees’ third-best prospect. The Braves also received $500,000 in the deal. Not exactly a bag of balls.
Hillbilly
February 16th, 2010
8:28 am
Jurrjens out? Maybe Freddie Prinze, Jr. is available.
dap01
February 16th, 2010
8:29 am
I would want to sign Smoltz in the middle of the season to be a one inning reliever. If he were able to stay health and regain that fastball, we could have a valuable weapon in the playoffs.
dpelfrey
February 16th, 2010
8:36 am
Calm down folks, the MRI is precautionary. Hold the doom and gloom until after the tests are done.
Let's Go Bravos!
February 16th, 2010
8:47 am
IF J.J. is out for a while, then Wren is going to look pretty dumb for trading Vasquez for a backup outfielder!
dpelfrey
February 16th, 2010
8:48 am
uga-brave…”tim hudson? check out his one postseason with the braves. 13 ip’s 13 hits 6 bb’s one hbp, eight k’s. dont love him or hate him but i would never trust him in a big game.”
So you’re saying Game 4 in that division series wasn’t a big game. Here’s his line from that one…7 IP, 6H, 3 ER, 1BB, 5 K…He left in the 8th inning with a 5-1 lead, nobody out and two runners on. The two runners reached on a walk and an infield hit. Bottom line, he pitched great in a big elimination game. It was Farnsworth that blew that one giving up the taters to Berkman and Ausmus. You’re right that he wasn’t good in Game 1, when he couldn’t throw a strike. But the man showed up in Game 4, so give him some credit.
O.J.
February 16th, 2010
8:49 am
I am sure this has already been mentioned, but I just wanted to bring it up again.
This is about Johnny Damon and the Tigers
Has anyone seen the report from John Paul Morosi that said the “sides have exchanged proposals within the last several days, but the source said a deal is not yet imminent.”
Does Boras really think he has bargaining power when the Tigers know what the other teams proposed? How on earth does he think he can get more money from the Tigers when they are the ones practically bidding against themselves? Boras is going to cost Johnny yet another team with his greed.
O.J.
February 16th, 2010
8:51 am
Let’s Go Bravos!, there was no way for Wren to predict that a 23 year old pitcher was going to need an MRI before spring training started. What the heck was he supposed to do, hold on to all of his pitchers and not sign Troy Glaus or Hinske just in the off chance that one of his starters MIGHT go down?? You cant GM that way, you just cant.
Macon Braves (RIP)
February 16th, 2010
8:52 am
Matt–Guess Frank Wren was supposed to tell the Yankees when they reached the trade agreement, “OK, but hold on, gotta call everyone on our roster and make sure they haven’t bumped their toes or smacked their funny bone’s on anything first.” Maybe you should get a clue before coming on and starting your ranting….oh, nevermind, I know that would be too much effort.
O.J.
February 16th, 2010
8:53 am
Matt, because apparently Jurrjens did this in the last few weeks, and as you know, or at least I hope you know, Vazquez was traded almost 2 months ago. THATS HOW!!!
Macon Braves (RIP)
February 16th, 2010
8:56 am
Wren is going to look pretty dumb for trading Vasquez for a backup outfielder!
O.J.
February 16th, 2010
8:57 am
All you morons that say Frank is going to look like a big idiot IF, and thats a big IF, Jurrjens goes down are just that, MORONS!!!! How the heck is Frank supposed to know that one of his young starters might have problems, especially when it just happened in the past few weeks?? Frank cannot predict when someone is going to get injured. So IF Jurrjens goes down, Frank looks for another pitcher to fill the spot, either from within or maybe he signs Smoltz and puts him in the pen as long relief and lets Medlen start. There are many ways he can go with this, so everyone just needs to chill.
csg
February 16th, 2010
9:06 am
DOB, people here dont like hearing about stats when comparing two players. Gut feelings are a lot more important to certain folks here
ncscoots
February 16th, 2010
9:11 am
Does anyone think that Hanson is not capable of pitching at 3, if indeed Jurrjens does have a problem? Teams look to play .500 ball in the starts made by the 4 and 5 starters, and I’m pretty sure that Kawakami and whoever can handle that. It’s the top 3 starters who count when it comes to piling up the W/L record, and there’s nothing wrong with Hudson, Lowe, and Hanson fronting the rotation.
Jurrjens out would simply mean that the margin of error just got thinner. Unfortunately, Braves’ margin is already pretty thin, so let’s hope it’s just early-spring soreness.
bigchiefrg
February 16th, 2010
9:19 am
JJJ going down would put a lot of pressure on Hanson. I think there would be big ripples coming off of this one.
My biggest fear would be that they don’t find anything right off and he ends up having a Soriano like 2008 where they never could figure out exactly what it was until the year was about over. This is my gut, and I am normally an eternal optimist, but this feels worst than it sounds. Somebody please talk me off the ledge this morning.
bigchiefrg
February 16th, 2010
9:21 am
I hear ya N8 on this not making ESPN any sooner but it just showed up 15 minutes ago. Not nearly as good info as DOB gives us.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4917877&campaign=rss&source=MLBHeadlines
ObamaBrave
February 16th, 2010
9:22 am
Considering that the Braves are anemic at the plate, it does seem that Braves management was a little stupid in letting Xavier Vasquez go knowing that a pitcher is only a pitch away from going down to injury. JJ threw his arm out last year trying to protect a one run lead or a tie score. Do any of you stat hounds on this blog know how many times JJ and Xavier went into the 5th with more than a one run lead. Also how many starts, innings pitched and pitches made did they have. Hanson could be next if Hudson’s arm goes south again. Now we have Billy “sick arm” in the bull pen. You can never have too much pitching especially with a lineup having no speed and no power.Neither Glaus nor Damon can solve this problem. Its too early for Heyward to take on this role. Its going to be a long year.
TheManMike
February 16th, 2010
9:25 am
Kick Arse – Looks like Top Chef Contestant Kevin Gillespie is opeing a BBQ joint soon. He was my favorite on the show last season and seems to really know his meat. Looking forward to this….
Runnin
February 16th, 2010
9:25 am
I don’t want to believe JJ did significant damage to his shoulder throwing a ball underhanded. My guess is they find a small muscle strain and shut him down for a few weeks, making him not ready for opening day. Medlen, get ready for some quality time on the mound.
jeffrey d
February 16th, 2010
9:25 am
The Jurrjens story is #1 on the ESPN MLB page now.
Wayne in Utah
February 16th, 2010
9:27 am
ObamaBrave
Geez dude, I hope your political counterpart does better with the economy than you are predicting for the Braves!
No more negative waves, dude!
Wayne in Utah
February 16th, 2010
9:30 am
So Jurrjens is saying he felt a twinge when tossing a ball underhanded a couple of weeks ago??? Is that accurate?
Does this sound a bit like the Jeff Kent “washing my truck” accident a few years back???
How can you hurt your shoulder tossing a ball underhanded? Not being a negative nellie, but that just sounds a tad bit suspicious…..
ncscoots
February 16th, 2010
9:30 am
Hanson could be next if Hudson’s arm goes south again.
Well, I guess you’ll have to color me stupid, since I’m having trouble figuring out the correlation between Hanson’s run support and Hudson’s elbow. But, I’m sure it’s there, right in front of me.
jeffrey d
February 16th, 2010
9:31 am
I hope your political counterpart does better with the economy than you are predicting for the Braves!
I sincerely hope we don’t see a PalinBrave
Wayne in Utah
February 16th, 2010
9:31 am
And is anyone else wondering why Damon hasn’t already signed, if indeed there is a 7/1 or a 14/2 contract on the table????
Sounds like some more SB BS to me?
ObamaBrave
February 16th, 2010
9:32 am
Wayne in Utah,
Please, no politics dude. I am only giving my opinion about the Braves. I hope that I am wrong. Performance will present the true measure of their success or failure.
O.J.
February 16th, 2010
9:32 am
ObamaBrave, who the hell is Xavier Vazquez??
Lew
February 16th, 2010
9:33 am
The Sky is falling. The sky is falling. I almost wish I hadn’t lost all that weight so I’d have more ass to laugh off.
Wayne in Utah
February 16th, 2010
9:34 am
Got your email Lew…..thanks for the info.
O.J.
February 16th, 2010
9:34 am
Wayne in Utah, its because Boras is trying to negotiate more money out of Detroit, which is going to cost Damon another team.
RHR
February 16th, 2010
9:39 am
lol Lew, Chicken Little was my first thought when I heard the news about JJ.
ObamaBrave
February 16th, 2010
9:39 am
ncscoots,
My point was that I hope the Braves do not overwork Hanson if JJ and Hudson go down. Also,I believe that the bull pen with Billy “Sick Arm” will be much worse than last year. If the pitching is less than last year, how will the Braves win at least the same number of games and get into the playoffs? I don’t see it unless the ball bounces in their favor all year. You need talent and luck to make the playoffs.
BravesFanLostInOhio
February 16th, 2010
9:40 am
right on, Lew
Bravo fan from Chitown
February 16th, 2010
9:41 am
TheManMike-
I would pay top dollar for BBQ from Kevin Gillespie. He was my favorite to win top chef. Do you know where the restraunt will be?
RHR
February 16th, 2010
9:42 am
Somebody save me the trouble of scrolling back thru a bunch of doom and gloom and let me know if Anders predictably made an appearance.
Jimmy Joe
February 16th, 2010
9:43 am
It’s sad to say, but everyone knows what’s going to happen here.
DOB will have an update later in the week that says Jurrjens MRI came out clean and it’s just a bout of preseason tendinitis. Then, Jurrjens will struggle all spring and show decreased velocity. He’ll battle all April and look less than his normal self. In May, he’ll hit the DL and later end up having surgery.
The way things have gone for the Braves the last few years, can anyone really be shocked with the above scenario?
ObamaBrave
February 16th, 2010
9:46 am
O.J.
At this time, it doesn’t even matter unless you are trying to make a point.
O.J.
February 16th, 2010
9:52 am
ObamaBrave, it does matter because last I checked, we never had a player named Xavier Vazquez. And I could understand if you said it once, but you said it twice in the same post, so I was curious as to who you thought Xavier Vazquez was.
McFann
February 16th, 2010
9:54 am
Grinch–
That’s horrible!
People are such animals…
Lew
February 16th, 2010
10:00 am
Y’all (at least the Doom and Gloomers) – Even without Jurrjens in the rotation (which is hardly a given – pitchers get twinges in shoulders all the time -especially very early in the season) only he Giants still have as deep a rotation (and maybe not AS deep) as the Braves.
Losing Jurrjens woulkdn’t be a good thing, mind you, but I wouldn’t feel too bad moving up Lowe, Hudson and Hanson (don’t worry about the pressure – I’m sure the kid would welcome it) and leaving the 4-5 slots to KK and Medlen (or maybe Minor shows he’s ready). It’s not as if they were going to move JoJo to number two in the rotation or anything.
The Grinch called me when he herd this last night and what we both figured was that the Braves season , with or without Jurrjens, is much more contingent upon Glaus and Chipper’s performances than a somewhat less deep pitching staff.
Besides, we could always run right out and offer Smoltz what we offered Damon, right?
And WTF-maybe JJ misses no time at all. Don’t commit suicide quite yet. Or as our friend HIllbilly might say- “Careful with that axe, Eugene.”
O.J.
February 16th, 2010
10:01 am
Well, I have to say, that if JJ ends up going down for any brief period of time, maybe Mike Minor can show he is ready in the spring and win a spot
jeffrey d
February 16th, 2010
10:02 am
McFann – I caught my first episode of “Leave it to Beaver” the other day. The whole plot was centered around Beaver feeling guilty for making a funny face in his class picture. He got a moral and a grounding at the end, and everything was right.
I was thinking about how much this differs from today’s shows. You have Maury giving paternety tests to cross dressers, they’re scoping out dead bodies on CSI…but Beav, well that little rascal made a goofy face.
TheManMike
February 16th, 2010
10:02 am
Bravo fan from Chitown
Here is the link to the article: http://blogs.ajc.com/the-buzz/2010/02/15/checking-in-with-kevin-gillespie-post-top-chef/?cp=all
I agree man, I would pay top $ for his food….
dpelfrey
February 16th, 2010
10:03 am
Xavier Vazquez was a Spanish explorer that discovered west coast of Hispaniola. He was also the first to successfully cultivate the same yeast that eventually brought us the fine product Vegemite.
Lew
February 16th, 2010
10:03 am
RHR-If not Anders, that Dude Reyes 2010 will be here shortly trying to convince himself that JJ’s absence would naturally equate to the Mets winning the division.
jeffrey d
February 16th, 2010
10:03 am
If Jurrjens does go down, do you think Jurrjens4NLCY will change his name?
Krewe of Dr. Andreus
February 16th, 2010
10:03 am
Fat Tuesday. Let the good times roll!
DAP
February 16th, 2010
10:04 am
uga-bravefor that matter a victorino.
we do have a victorino. we call him nate mclouth.
phils dont have a chipper, mccann, or escobar. whats your point?
Piedmont Blues
February 16th, 2010
10:05 am
Lew,
Thanks. About time somebody doused the fires here.
Jeez, it seems as if some denizens are waiting for the smallest amount of bad news to proclaim the Bravos a 110-loss team.
Get a grip, people. Pitchers and catchers haven’t reported yet.
PalinBrave
February 16th, 2010
10:05 am
He’s referring to “Professor” Xavier, a bald guy with tremendous mental powers who pitched for the bravos last year.
RHR
February 16th, 2010
10:08 am
Braveheart
February 15th, 2010
8:38 pm
Ballgame!
jeffrey d
February 16th, 2010
10:09 am
I think I would have noticed a guy in a wheelchair pitching with his mind last year. Guess I wasn’t paying attention. Must’ve been when Chip was announcing.
Space Monkey
February 16th, 2010
10:11 am
JJ’s injury sounds bad. I tore up my shoulder five years ago. Pain flipping underhanded was a definite symptom. I shredded my bicep tendon and tore my RC. Nasty. Required surgery. It was six months before I could swing a golf club.
RHR
February 16th, 2010
10:13 am
Krewe of Dr. Andreus
See, if you were really clever you would have spelled it Dr. Andreaux.
dmack2027
February 16th, 2010
10:13 am
I feel much better about this than when a pitcher experiences pain in his elbow/forearm during the season. Let us hope for the best. I think JJ will be fine.
richbrave
February 16th, 2010
10:16 am
Its obvious that WREN and the BRAVES are not going to blink in their little game of chicken with DAMON and BORAS. Don’t think DAMON will be a BRAVE.
TnBrian
February 16th, 2010
10:17 am
Space Monkey, shutup.
Wayne in Utah
February 16th, 2010
10:18 am
ObamaBrave
Funny! You use the prez’s name in your screen name, and I make a statement that I hope he does better with the economy (not negative or political at all) than you are predicting for the Braves; and you have the nerve to tell me to not get political???? Are you frickin’ kidding me?
DAP
February 16th, 2010
10:20 am
mattJurrjens shoulder is hurting??? How in the hell could the Braves front office have NOT known about this before they traded Vazquez for a bag of balls??
seeing as how that trade (for one of the top minor league pitchers in baseball, by the way) was months ago, maybe jurjens shoulder wasnt hurting then. but youre right. really good front offices see the future.
TnBrian
February 16th, 2010
10:21 am
Jimmy Joe at 9:43, you too.
David O'Brien
February 16th, 2010
10:22 am
It’s sad to say, but everyone knows what’s going to happen here.
DOB will have an update later in the week that says Jurrjens MRI came out clean and it’s just a bout of preseason tendinitis. Then, Jurrjens will struggle all spring and show decreased velocity. He’ll battle all April and look less than his normal self. In May, he’ll hit the DL and later end up having surgery.
The way things have gone for the Braves the last few years, can anyone really be shocked with the above scenario? — Jimmy Joe
Certainly, no one can be shocked that you or someone else felt compelled to outline the above scenario. Damn, dude: Your glass half-empty, or not even moist?
Chuck James can Potentially be Solid until the 6th again!!!
February 16th, 2010
10:22 am
I don’t like shoulder soreness. But as Lew quoted before, I will be Eugene and put the ax down. However, I am not a pessimist but when it comes to pitchers and shoulder soreness…. Too early for the Smoltz speculation???? If JJ does turn out to have a significant problem in a week or two, bet on plenty of it….
RHR
February 16th, 2010
10:24 am
Glass? What glass?
Chuck James can Potentially be Solid until the 6th again!!!
February 16th, 2010
10:25 am
Wayne
Agreed, ObamaBrave, you’re askin for it man. You’re basically initiating a political conversation with your, to many, controversial moniker.
McFann
February 16th, 2010
10:26 am
jeffrey d I caught my first episode of “Leave it to Beaver” the other day.
Whoo-hoo!
Good show, eh?
Yeah, it’s so different from what they’re making these days…that’s what makes it so good! Except sometimes it’s irritating when Beaver does something bad and everybody blames it on Ward. I mean, OK, so sometimes it cann be his fault a little, but Beaver’s old enough to take responsibility for his own actions, no?
Sounds like you caught a good one, though (well, they’re all good…all the ones I’ve seen, anyway)…can’t remember if I’ve seen that one. They need to put the rest of the seasons out on DVD.
David O'Brien
February 16th, 2010
10:27 am
I’ve got an 11 a.m. training class at office (gotta get hours in when I can before season begins), so don’t assume absence in next 90 minutes or so means something is brewing or anything like that. I mean, it could be, but my absence from blog won’t have anything to do with it. Know what I’m saying?
Jeff R
February 16th, 2010
10:28 am
Jurrjens has a sore shoulder. No one’s said anything about a blown a shoulder. He’s goin to have an MRI as a precaution, not because he had major pain and an inability to throw.
Years ago, the trainers would have iced down Jurrjens’ shoulder and kept him from throwing for 48 hours. These days, because teams have so much invest in their talent, a twinge becomes a big deal.
Wayne in Utah
February 16th, 2010
10:29 am
Chuck James
Thanks! Be kinda like me adding something like “Dave Ramsey” to my moniker, then all the folks that liked to spend with wreckless abandon would be offended, huh.
Lew
February 16th, 2010
10:29 am
Chuck-I fully expect some of the less rational Denizens to start suggesting Smoltz any time now. I don’t think we even need to think about going out and getting more pitching. We have plenty – even without Jurrjens, who in case some of y’all haven’t noticed, hasn’t even missed a Spring Training start yet.
I wonder how many shoulder/elbow twinges we never even hear about?
McFann
February 16th, 2010
10:29 am
Oh sweet…I just found out that Shout! Factory (the company that’s putting out the “Mister Ed” DVDs) is preparing a June 15th release of season 3 of Leave It To Beaver!
CB
February 16th, 2010
10:29 am
It is amazing the quality of the 25% on this blog who have something in this blog to offer,and the 75% who offer only ignorance. Count me in the one you wish.
Daybed Wagmoe
February 16th, 2010
10:30 am
Oooohhhh…….this “training” must include either a) how to interview Johnny Damon, b) how to report on shoulder surgery, and/or c) how to frame the return of John Smoltz to the Atlanta Braves. Something is DEFINITELY going down…what is DOB????
Will
February 16th, 2010
10:32 am
Lew JJ missed a start 2 years ago after the slip in cubs dugout
Lew
February 16th, 2010
10:32 am
McFann-I watched all the Leave It To Beaver episodes when they originally came out. They used to be on right before The Mickey Mouse Club. We’d watch them every afternoon after my sister and I got back from elementary school.
Lew
February 16th, 2010
10:33 am
Will-Yes he did. Your point?
McFann
February 16th, 2010
10:34 am
Lew–
Now that’s fun…your generation had such good shows to look forward to every week. But at least we get the DVDs now.
CB
February 16th, 2010
10:36 am
When DOB is not on the blog, is it ok to assume he may be taking a shower,brushing teeth,clipping toenails,paying bills? You know,normal things.
UKUGA/brent a.
February 16th, 2010
10:36 am
or how to read an MRI. . .
UKUGA/brent a.
February 16th, 2010
10:37 am
CB,
50% of statistics are made up anyway . . .
M.
February 16th, 2010
10:42 am
free agent pitchers left; paul byrd, mike hampton, livan hernandez, braden looper, pedro martinez, jason schmidt, john smoltz, brett tomko, chien-ming wang, jarrod washburn, joel biemel,kiko calero, ron mahay,mike mcdougal, chan ho park, jason isringhausen, and russ springer. plenty of options if jurrjins is out significant time and you need to add a roster spot to either bullpen help (medlen gets starter spot) or just adding another starter