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richbrave
February 12th, 2010
8:16 am
GIL in MECHANICSVILLE:
You out there bro’? Got to go to the BYRD theater to see the mascot costume and the unis of the FLYING SQUIRRELS?
bravesgrl4life
February 12th, 2010
8:29 am
From Page 38 where ya’ll were talking about the GM/Ford vs. Imports. At the age of 38, I’ve owned 1 Ford (’82 EXP – okay I was 17 and stupid), 1 Toyota (’83 Celica – great little car – had almost 200K on it when it died), 2 Pontiacs (’91 Sunbird and an ‘06 G6 GT); 2 Chevrolets (’97 Monte Carlo Z34 and a 2001 SS Monte). The EXP was a dog, but got me through my senior year in HS. The Celica – I paid $3K for it with 106K miles. Drove that car for another 3 years before the head blew up. Still, loved that little car. The Sunbird was a good little car that I drove from 1993 to 1997. Yeah, it needed work on it then, but it was still running. With the 1997 Monte, I had to have the tran rebuilt at less than 100K miles. Traded it later for the 2001, which had front end problems. Traded that for the G6 – shortest time I owned a car was with this one. Between January and June 2008, I put almost $1,000 into the front end of that car. Got it in November ‘05 and traded in July ‘08. Got a Nissan Altima Coupe (2008) and it has been great. Basically, all my GMs (except the Sunbird) had poor front end designs, not to mention the troubles with front wheel drive in cars that size. I loved them but for those problems.
Not saying I’d never own a GM or Ford (hubby is a Chevy man, so Ford is not likely), but right now GM is not impressing me all that much. Interested to see how well the new Camaro holds up, ’cause that’s the only thing GM makes that I truly am interested in. Would rather pick up a ‘71 Challenger convertible for my hubby to restore for me.
@ Heath
I'm Stoked!
February 12th, 2010
8:35 am
I can’t wait for spring training to begin! The Braves managed to trade their best pitcher and still not add the outfield power bat they needed! What’s not to be excited about? The fans are going to be part of a grand experiment. Wren and company are actually going to see if the act of telling the world that they have a fine ballclub will actually get them into the playoffs! Who needs actual personnel upgrades? All you gotta do is tell the media and fans that your team is better and you’re on your way to taking champagne baths in October.
TennesseePaul
February 12th, 2010
8:39 am
Steve McP: So far it appears to be 2.8% more annually on the Braves $90M budget.
Gil In Mechanicsville
February 12th, 2010
8:42 am
Go morning all, Richbrave, I actually think that Nutzy is going to be a hit with a lot of folks. Really so far and above the Diamond Duck…
Reviewing the overnights… Loyalty kind of went out with family owned businesses. When the corporate mindset moves in, the dynamics change pretty dramatically. In other words, when the companies bottom line becomes the most important thing to them, them my bottom line becomes more important to me.
In other words.. “How come every time I call it a game, you call it a business and every time I call it a business, you call it a game?” North Dallas Forty
dmack2027
February 12th, 2010
8:42 am
DOB,
Can you find out if the Braves have submitted a second offer to Damon? Or, are they sticking with the original offer, whatever it was, and letting him pick who he wants to play for?
18 Wheels of Love
February 12th, 2010
8:51 am
I bet Damon picks his team today. At his age I and coming off a great season I cannot imagine him turning down a 2 yr/14m deal. That’s not what Boras guys do if I remember correctly. But of course ou can always look at Bobby Abreu who took a 5m 1 yr deal and parlayed it into a 2 yr/18m deal the next year…and he is only 1 year younger than JD.
I also wonder if the Union would frown against a guy taking a 1 yr deal when he was offered a good 2 yr deal.
njbraves
February 12th, 2010
8:52 am
Damon will take whatever offer provides the most cash. When was the last time a Boras client left money on the table??
bravesgrl4life
February 12th, 2010
8:55 am
Interesting that we haven’t heard Damon has signed yet. I wonder if he’s weighing like this: “Hm, $7M to play in Detroit, one of the most depressed areas in the country, or $4M to play in Atlanta, in the last year of Bobby Cox’s illustrious management career and a chance to at least make a run for the title. What to do, what to do?” $ on the left hand, potential for glory on the right.”
Glen W
February 12th, 2010
9:11 am
Gil,
Funny Diamond Duck story. I moved away from Richmond a couple of years ago.. but when I was there, one day at work I had an encounter.
I was working (fairly big corporate campus) and heading off to a meeting. I waited for the elevator and when the doors open, there was just one person on the elevator (right in the middle of the day)… that one person(?) was Diamond Duck. We both followed proper elevator ettiquette and didn’t speak to or even look at each other. When I got off of the elevator, I was like what the what???
Glen W
February 12th, 2010
9:12 am
It felt like one of those Sportscenter commercials…
ugaaccountant
February 12th, 2010
9:14 am
18 Wheels of Love
I also wonder if the Union would frown against a guy taking a 1 yr deal when he was offered a good 2 yr deal.
You’re correct that it would probably be an issue with them. But just once I’d love for a client to tell the Union, Scott Boras, and anybody else who asked that he sure as **** isn’t going to use his free agency opportunity to move to Detroit.
Who knows what Damon’s personal situation is, but if he’s been smart with his money he should have maybe 30 to 50 million just sitting in the bank and should be incredibly comfortable making this decision based on enjoying life not more money.
Don
February 12th, 2010
9:15 am
Even with his great abilty, Heyward has a couple of strikes against him for next season: He is only 20, has very little experience in the high minors, and most significant of all – would be playing under a manager who is terrible relating to the continued development of young potential hitting stars – in terms of providign necessary instruction, disipline, emphasis, procedures etc. Andruw Jones being a prime example.
GermanBravesFan
February 12th, 2010
9:15 am
GRINCH: how enjoyable to read some well written posts… I agree with you on Damon: one year for $8 Million in Detroit or one year for $4.5 Million in Atlanta – it would be Atlanta. But two years for $14 Million…
GermanBravesFan
February 12th, 2010
9:16 am
DON: yaaaaaaaaaaawn. Come up with something new!
Don
February 12th, 2010
9:17 am
Giving Damon 14 million for 2 years is nothing compared to the Dodger GM signing Andruw for 18 million for two years a few years ago. This was perhaps the dumbest signing in baseball history – when anyone who had observed him for any length of time at that point would not have wanted him on their team at any price.
ugaaccountant
February 12th, 2010
9:17 am
Don – Please tell me how Cox failed Andruw Jones. He was a success from the moment he arrived in Atlanta and was a potential hall of famer for about a decade. You’re not seriously trying to say Cox ruined Andruw Jones when he was in his 30’s prior to losing his ability.
NCmike
February 12th, 2010
9:22 am
So DOB… reviewing last nights posts.
Life’s Rich Pageant is probably my favorite REM CD. Memories of high school come rushing back…
Are you a yuppie or a thug???
Rodney Derrick
February 12th, 2010
9:22 am
Some hours ago, the view was expressed by some on the Board that Tom Glavine would have difficulty sitting in management’s position when it comes to negotiating with players, and DOB agreed. Take it from someone who worked for a labor union for many years, you are very likely wrong. My experience is that the most scary folks for management are those who have to prove themselves because they were formerly the union reps or even stewards. The reality is that the folks in these positions are usually the most respected of the workers, and Glav is likely the most respected guy around. Trust me that when he tells a pitcher about the many years he spent taking a lot less and pitching every time his turn came despite pain and winning 300 games without the greatest stuff, he will be a genuine threat to shame them into taking less money. Also, these folks often feel they have to show management that they are really now on the side of management, and they even have a tendency to overdo it to prove themselves. And when the workers sometimes respond to this by characterizing them as the enemy, they then often react by retrenching even further into a hardline position. One further note as an example– during my time at Harvard in a program for trade unionists, I led a mock negotiation with Business School MBAs, where my side was management and their side was the union. We slaughtered them, as we knew all we had to do was say “No”.
Steve McP
February 12th, 2010
9:23 am
Don, comparing with Andruw does not make your point, he hit 25 or more homers every year from 1998-2007, with a high of 51 in 2005 (so he got better over the period), he was a 5 time all star (most coming later in those years) and won 10 Gold Gloves, then his performances fell off a cliff that no coach anywhere has been able to resolve, cannot blame Cox or Pendleton for that.
Gil In Mechanicsville
February 12th, 2010
9:24 am
Glen, I try to make a point of speaking to people on elevators, I’ve found it puts most people at ease. Try it sometime… Still, funny Diamond Duck story…
What’s the old Dave Gardner line? “A stranger is just a friend you haven’t met yet”…
Steve McP
February 12th, 2010
9:25 am
That should read “comparing Andruw with Heyward does not make your point”
Lew
February 12th, 2010
9:26 am
ugaaccountant-At least Don has stopped speaking of maturity and understanding. Maybe he finally came to the understanding that he had no maturity. His rants sound like a 12 year old and not like a person who’s been a baseball fan for 60 years. Still, one out of two corrected IS an improvement.
JUST SAYIN'
February 12th, 2010
9:28 am
uga-brave
February 12th, 2010
12:45 am
nolie,
i hated that process. i think they knew all along they were gonna bring up hanson.
definetely was not handled right.
our own DOB, watched glavine in side sessions and asked when is glav gonna throw a one. says a lot, right?
—————
I watched Glavine pitch his last rehab start for Gwinnett. Wren was also in the stands as he wanted to make that decision based on what he personally saw and not based on what a scout saw.
Glavine was knocked all over the place that day. Had it not been for 4 DP’s the results would have been much worse. It was obvious he was finished. I was not surprised one bit when Wren released him a few days later. He still collected $1 million dollars just for rehabbing. It was time to cut the cord. Had Wren waited another day they would have owed Glavine another million.
Wren’s job is to run the business of the club. He did his job.
.
February 12th, 2010
9:30 am
I’m #4222….Is that as good as 1st? Feels the same.
Gil In Mechanicsville
February 12th, 2010
9:31 am
Rodney Derrick It’s why management likes to promote union leaders. They already have proven to have most of the desirable attributes needed to run a business. Great training ground. When you already know every play in the other guy’s playbook, it’s pretty hard to get surprised.
Tom Glavin’s stint as a Union Rep only proves he is knowledgeable and articulate.
Willy Wally
February 12th, 2010
9:32 am
Glavine might be a great GM someday. I thought it was interesting reading that Feinstein book about Glavine and Mussina a while back that Kasten found it remarkable that Glavine was very conservative politically but was so pro-union in the labor battles, while Kasten was so liberal politically, but so pro-management in the labor squabbles. Unless Glavine is really just that hardcore about union principles, I think he’d be as hardlined and cutthroat about money from the management perspective as he was from the player perspective. Dude’s likely too competitive to be any other way. Glavine as the GM, Maddux as the manager sounds like a plan.
Gibby
February 12th, 2010
9:34 am
just read this in Olney’s blog
Along the way Thursday, I was told by someone in baseball that he was asked to leak word of a particular two-year offer to Damon — to stir the pot and artificially nudge those involved in the bidding.
Gil In Mechanicsville
February 12th, 2010
9:36 am
Lew… Since you are a big fan of Chevy, perhaps you should consider a Chevrolet Traverse. It’s a crossover SUV about the same size as a Malibu but all wheel drive.
John Adcox
February 12th, 2010
9:37 am
Quoth Wayne:
“While I would never stand in the way of someone getting the best deal they can, I think there are a lot of agents (and CEO’s and salesmen) out there that get their clients a great deal, without reaching the levels of contempt that Boras does.”
I have to agree 100 percent. I work in a business where I am represented by agents. I’ve never signed a contract that they negotiated for me that I thought was unfair, or where I felt I was getting a bad deal.
While I _have_ on occasion “left money on the table,” there was always something else involved that make it worth doing … rights came back to me after a decent amount of time, I get to keep living in Atlanta, etc. In any case, I have great agents that have generally gotten me what I want, or at very least ensured that I am treated fairly.
I like to think that the reverse is also true. I don’t think any of the people that my manager or agent has negotiated with on my behalf have left the table feeling screwed. Or thinking, man, “that Adcox … he’s one $?&!@% I never want to work with again.”
My agents have a great rep on both sides of the table. I like to hope that some of that rubs off on me by association. There’s something to be said about being judged by the company you keep, whether it’s fair or not.
I like to think that I wouldn’t choose an agent or manager with a scumbag shark’s reputation. Even if it might earn me a few extra dollars.
Lew
February 12th, 2010
9:42 am
Gil-How you been?
Just paid the Malibu Max (not the same as the new Malibus) off and plan to not have another car payment for two more years (I’ve had plenty of Chevy’s go over 125,000 and this one has been quite well maintained).
Maybe they’ll come up with something better by then. The Traverse is huge – way bigger than we’re looking for. We’re looking for something like the Subaru Forrester, but a Chevy.
Gil In Mechanicsville
February 12th, 2010
9:44 am
Willy Wally Many people make incorrect assumptions about union people being hard core liberals. I think it is more correct that most people will do what is in their own best interest at the time. In non “Right to Work” states, most people have little choice but to be Union. Far too many people give credence to the fact that a particular union boss can deliver votes.
and for fear of starting a “political” discussion, will quit now…
richbrave
February 12th, 2010
9:45 am
Glen W
February 12th, 2010
9:12 am
It felt like one of those Sportscenter commercials…
You mean you actually didn’t SEE that commercial?
Gil In Mechanicsville
February 12th, 2010
9:49 am
Lew, enjoying the Vermont like weather and looking forward to spring training. My youngest son bought a house in Sarasota and the wife and I are planning a trip down to see the Braves play the first week in March.
Ease in Buckhead
February 12th, 2010
9:50 am
I also wonder if the Union would frown against a guy taking a 1 yr deal when he was offered a good 2 yr deal.
ask Laroche
dmack2027
February 12th, 2010
9:50 am
Asked to leak a rumor. DOB is awfully quiet about this entire process, since he broke the story about the Braves submitting an offer. The truth is that nobody really knows what offers, and for how much, Damon currently has in hand. There may be a lot of misinformation circulating right now to attempt to stimulate the bidding.
GovClintonTyree
February 12th, 2010
9:53 am
Couch Tater: I’m inspired. Might need a cold shower.
More installments of the Frank and Tom show to come…I gotta go downstairs and earn a paycheck for now…
Home of the Braves
February 12th, 2010
9:53 am
Gibby, that’s really interesting. Can you copy the rest of what Olney had to say on the Damon situation in his blog?
John Adcox
February 12th, 2010
9:54 am
Quoth Wayne: “While I would never stand in the way of someone getting the best deal they can, I think there are a lot of agents (and CEO’s and salesmen) out there that get their clients a great deal, without reaching the levels of contempt that Boras does.”
I have to agree 100 percent. I work in a business where I am represented by agents. I’ve never signed a contract that they negotiated for me that I thought was unfair, or where I felt I was getting a bad deal. While I _have_ on occasion “left money on the table,” there was always something else involved that make it worth doing … rights came back to me after a decent amount of time, I get to keep living in Atlanta, etc. In any case, I have great agents that have generally gotten me what I want, or at very least ensured that I am treated fairly.
I like to think that the reverse is also true. I don’t think any of the people that my manager or agent has negotiated with on my behalf have left the table feeling screwed. Or thinking, man, “that Adcox … he’s one $?&!@% I never want to work with again.”
My agents have a great rep on both sides of the table. I like to hope that some of that rubs off on me by association. There’s something to be said about being judged by the company you keep, whether it’s fair or not. I like to think that I wouldn’t choose an agent or manager with a scumbag shark’s reputation. Even if it might earn me a few extra dollars.
Rodney Derrick
February 12th, 2010
9:57 am
Fun to contemplate the way the agents play the rumor mill. These days, there are so many web sites and so many guys in the baseball arena that have the ability to put out stories that may not be true, that it would not be surprising that someday we may hear about a payola scandal of sorts. With the amount of funds at the disposal of guys like Boras, there would be a lot of room to pass out a few bucks to people to get their ideas into the public. It happens in all industries.
CB
February 12th, 2010
9:57 am
Gil in Mechancisville, I will be at spring training at the same time,wear your purple shirt so I know it is you.
P-Town Brave
February 12th, 2010
9:57 am
I’m confused, maybe someone can explain this to me?
BTW…morning guys and gals!
Anyways, maybe someone can explain to me why exactly Damon hasn’t signed with Detroit yet if they are actually offering him 2 years and 14 Mil?! What is the holdup? I can’t see the Braves trying to match that even though we could get competitive and creative with an offer.
richbrave
February 12th, 2010
9:59 am
Lew
February 12th, 2010
9:42 am
Gil-How you been?
Just paid the Malibu Max (not the same as the new Malibus) off and plan to not have another car payment for two more years (I’ve had plenty of Chevy’s go over 125,000 and this one has been quite well maintained).
Maybe they’ll come up with something better by then. The Traverse is huge – way bigger than we’re looking for. We’re looking for something like the Subaru Forrester, but a Chevy.
Good on yea. Been buying BUICKS, or MAXDA’s when they were more than 50% FORD owned, since 1976. Bought a FORD Ranger in 1991. I will put antique tags on it next year. Maintain American cars and you get as much as a MERCEDES for a fraction of the cost. My max, a 1991 BUICK LeSABRE 273,000 miles when I wrecked it, and a MAZDA MX-6 1993, 389,000 miles which just died.
ugaaccountant
February 12th, 2010
9:59 am
p-town brave –
1) alledgedly Chicago White Sox have also put in a 2 year bid.
2) it’s more likely that someone will increase than decrease a bid
3) there’s no rush
and most importantly 4) who wants to live in Detroit
RHR
February 12th, 2010
9:59 am
On ESPN insider Olney’s blog for today isn’t up as of this very minute and that isn’t in his blog yesterday. Not sure where else Olney’s blog is published.
toga party
February 12th, 2010
10:00 am
GovClintonTyree, very funny stuff this morning. Looking forward to more of the Frank and Tom show.
RHR
February 12th, 2010
10:01 am
This is what’s on MLBTR .. updated about 10 minutes ago.
Tigers owner Mike Ilitch apparently is adding his personal touch to the Johnny Damon negotiations.
A report on FoxSports.com says Ilitch, who does not often get involved in player negotiations, has authorized a two-year, $14 million offer to Damon.
ESPN The Magazine’s Buster Olney tweeted Thursday that “the overwhelming expectation among some executives involved in the Johnny Damon bidding is that he will wind up with Tigers.”
The Damon saga appears to be nearing the finish line Thursday, as Damon tries to choose from several offers far lower than the two-year, $20 million deal he and agent Scott Boras have been seeking, reports ESPN.com’s Jayson Stark.
Two sources told ESPN.com that the Tigers have made the largest offer, amid speculation around the industry that that bid is in the range of one year for $7 million. There were indications the sides were still discussing a possible two-year deal. But even the Tigers’ one-year offer appears to be the biggest offer on the table.
The Braves and Rays have also remained in the bidding, with both teams talking about one-year contracts for fewer total dollars than the Tigers’ offer. MLB.com reported that the Braves’ offer was for less than $4 million.
The White Sox reportedly have surfaced in the Damon chase, but Joe Cowley of the Sun-Times says GM Ken Williams could be trying to drive up the price of Damon to a division rival.
NORRIS
February 12th, 2010
10:04 am
IF YOU GOOGLE JOHNNY DAMON THERE IS A NEW POST THAT SAYS JOHNNY DAMON TO BRAVES?
Radio Cure
February 12th, 2010
10:05 am
Olney’s new blog is up posted less than an hour ago but I don’t have insider.
RHR
February 12th, 2010
10:08 am
Well i do have insider and I’m looking at it right now and it still shows the one from yesterday.
Radio Cure
February 12th, 2010
10:09 am
Try this
http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=4907844&name=olney_buster
RHR
February 12th, 2010
10:11 am
Ahh..found it on the espn home page. Weird.
It’s been a long time since we’ve seen the kind of all-out spinning that is going on with the Johnny Damon negotiations. The White Sox are reported to be in the negotiations … but maybe they’re not really in them at all, except for the purpose of due diligence, as Joe Cowley writes; Kenny Williams might be playing a game of chess.
Along the way Thursday, I was told by someone in baseball that he was asked to leak word of a particular two-year offer to Damon — to stir the pot and artificially nudge those involved in the bidding.
It’ll be interesting to see, after the smoke clears, where the final numbers are on Damon. As of Thursday night, the wide expectation of rival executives was that Damon would wind up back with the Tigers.
Two incontrovertible facts could emerge from this:
A. Damon’s camp botched its negotiations with the Yankees. B. If, in fact, Damon actually gets a two-year, $14 million deal from the Tigers, in present-day value, then agent Scott Boras has done excellent work in drumming up something out of nothing, through his strategic lobbying in the Detroit newspapers.
Mike Ilitch is dipping into his own stash to try to lure Damon, writes John Lowe. Damon could hit first or second for the Tigers. Whether it is a one-year deal or a two-year deal, Boras’s special relationship seems to have led to something for the Tigers.
Damon’s negotiations are close to completion, writes Ken Davidoff.
Jeff R
February 12th, 2010
10:12 am
Hmmm… I’ve read a couple of posts asking if Wren will counter the Tigers’ two-year, $14 million offer to Damon.
Only if Wren has rocks for brains. Why on earth would Wren commit that much time and even more money to snag Damon? He wouldn’t. The names Heyward and Schafer come to mind?
With or without Damon, if the Braves stay healthy, if key players perform up to expectations, the club will be in contention.
Lew
February 12th, 2010
10:13 am
Gil-Yeah, you and richbrave have certainly had much more snow than we have up here this year – even when Burlington (NW of us) got 32 inches, we only got six. It’s melting now and starting to look like late May – ridiculous. They’re closing slopes at Killington – they can’t even make enough snow with the machines. Strangest winter we’ve spent up here. But who’s complaining? At $30 bucks a pop for having the driveway plowed, I’ve only spent $90 so far instead of in the past when we’ve had to have it plowed twice in the same day on several occasions. More money to spend at Dark Star.
dmack2027
February 12th, 2010
10:14 am
If you believe the speculation, it just seems odd that Detroit would top at Atlanta offer of 4 million with a two year contract worth 14 million. To me, it just seems like too much of a jump to be accurate.
McFann
February 12th, 2010
10:15 am
Shanks A Lot–
You blog from your iTouch? That’s kinda cool…I couldn’t even get the Blog comments on ours the last time I tried…
Lew
February 12th, 2010
10:16 am
dmack-I had the same thought. That’s quite a disparity. Sounds like a Boras snow job to me. Maybe someone could give the plot to Scorcese.
Jeff R
February 12th, 2010
10:17 am
dmack2027… sometimes owners and managements do dumb things and sign guys who they could have gotten for less to fat contracts.
In any event, I’ve thought that Damon was a better fit for the AL. Why? The DH. Doesn’t have to do all that running in the outfield.
bravesgrl4life
February 12th, 2010
10:18 am
Norris, that article doesn’t even mention the Tigers’ offer, so I wouldn’t put much stock in it.
Jeff R
February 12th, 2010
10:19 am
Lew, for Boras or someone near him to leak that the Tigers are prepared to empty the bank for Damon would discourage suitors rather than attract them. IF he was playing that game, he’d have leaked that the Tigers have raised the ante modestly so he could attract counters from the Braves and others.
Soph
February 12th, 2010
10:20 am
McFann, I used to have the same problem. I could see the blog on my iTouch but I couldn’t see or post any comments. Now, it’s able to do so but I hate trying to type with it so I never do.
We should have a return of Rally countdown.
RHR
February 12th, 2010
10:20 am
All you Georgians hoping for snow it looks like its going to be awhile, if at all. All that stuff you see on radar isn’t reaching the ground. Snow fall has only started in the most western sections of Alabama in the last hour or so. Haven’t seen a single flake here, nor in Birmingham, nor in Auburn. They’re still saying its coming, its just taking longer to get here than they anticipated.
RHR
February 12th, 2010
10:22 am
I blog from my iphone when I have to, ie – waiting rooms or hospitals, but it takes a while (for me, I get annoyed when computer stuff doesn’t work instantly) to scroll down thru hundreds of comments as the page is loading. After it gets loaded up though it works just fine.
CB
February 12th, 2010
10:24 am
I don’t have a problem if the Braves make a 1yr offer to Damon with whatever money is left in the budget,making a 2yr offer would seem to be stupid to me for a player of his age.
sidslidkid
February 12th, 2010
10:26 am
RHR, I agree the iPhone doesn’t make for the best blog experience. I only do it when I’m bored out of my mind or desperate for Braves news.
RHR
February 12th, 2010
10:27 am
Yeah that gray and white checkerboard is annoying while you’re scrolling down comments as its loading up.
McFann
February 12th, 2010
10:27 am
Soph–
Hmm…I’ll have to try it again. Not that it matters a whole lot…I mean, if I’m away from our computer, I really have no need to Blog.
I hate trying to type with it…
I kinda do, too. It’s a pain–I hit the wrong letter too much…irritating!
RHR All you Georgians hoping for snow it looks like its going to be awhile, if at all. All that stuff you see on radar isn’t reaching the ground.
Killjoy.
but it takes a while (for me, I get annoyed when computer stuff doesn’t work instantly) to scroll down thru hundreds of comments as the page is loading.
Exactly.
Lew
February 12th, 2010
10:28 am
JeffR-Maybe so, maybe not. He might be trying to push for a two year offer from the Braves. Boras is Machiavellian to the max in pursuit of the best deal. Anything he does could mean several things. Seems to me that if it were really the case, it wouldn’t have been reported and Damon would already have signed on the dotted line.
Then again, maybe not.
P'cola Brave
February 12th, 2010
10:28 am
RHR
They just closed I 65 in Baldwin County in Southern Alabama because of snow accumulation and bridges freezing. Its on the way.
ugaaccountant
February 12th, 2010
10:29 am
RHR
February 12th, 2010
10:20 am
All you Georgians hoping for snow it looks like its going to be awhile, if at all. All that stuff you see on radar isn’t reaching the ground. Snow fall has only started in the most western sections of Alabama in the last hour or so. Haven’t seen a single flake here, nor in Birmingham, nor in Auburn. They’re still saying its coming, its just taking longer to get here than they anticipated.
So you mean when they cancelled schools yesterday they were reacting too quickly to weather forecasts which are often inaccurate? Color me surprised.
RHR
February 12th, 2010
10:29 am
Killjoy.
Sorry, McFann, I wasn’t trying to be, just figured you all were wondering where it was, like I am!
MLH
February 12th, 2010
10:30 am
It’s actually already snowing here in Ga. In Lawrenceville anyway.
Lew
February 12th, 2010
10:30 am
Sunny and bright with no snow forecasted here in Central Vermont. Y’all need to move to the new Sun Belt.
RemoW
February 12th, 2010
10:32 am
I don’t like Boras. (Mostly because it guarantees some of my favorite Braves players are going to leave.) But dang the guy has the magic touch. Damon went from a guy who might have to tak almost anything offered to a potential 2 year 14 mil offer.
Whatever Boras is feeding or getting the GMs to drink, I want some to use.
DAP
February 12th, 2010
10:32 am
for some of these guys, getting the most amount of money isnt about the money. its bragging rights. its a pride thing. they see their salary as their value compared to other players. i really believe for some of them, actually HAVING the money is secondary to them.
notice a couple of braves who arent like that at all. chipper and huddy.
i blog from my itouch at times, when im only going to make short posts. i really had trouble getting to the comments on the blog for awhile. i think i found a way to trick the ajc mobile page (which sucks, by the way) into letting me into it.
bravofan
February 12th, 2010
10:32 am
so snow in lawrencville? no snow here in carrollton
Jeff R
February 12th, 2010
10:34 am
Lew… I’ll grant you that Boras is one shrewd, calculating customer! His track record of success speaks volumes.
Arkansas Transplant
February 12th, 2010
10:36 am
There must not be any advisors in detroit, or their owner and boras has something going on on the side. How many times will you allow yourself to get burned over and over by the same guy? I mean I appreciate the fact the owner is willing to improve his club but really? is this an improvement? I think I could do a lot more with less, I’d think they would be better served to sign blalock if they need a lefty.
Lew
February 12th, 2010
10:38 am
JeffR-That he is. However, I take nothing about his players and the contract negotiations as gospel until the Club holds their press conference. Anything else is just material for the pundits to indulge in their eternal quest for the ulitmate rumor.
Wayne in Utah
February 12th, 2010
10:38 am
Just in case anyone was wondering, Scott Boras has caused the snow to fall on the southeast. Up the ante Braves, or it’ll turn into a blizzard in the next couple of hours!
I speak the truth…..
CB
February 12th, 2010
10:40 am
Boras appeals to the natural stupidity and gullibility of the consumer. I relate it to grocery stores offering a buy one,get one free offer and customers flocking because they hear the word free. Duh,you Idiot, did you see the price of the first one? Boras would probably be a good salesman for H-ell.
Arkansas Transplant
February 12th, 2010
10:41 am
Has anyone heard as to whether or not Rocco Baldeli has signed anywhere? That’s the player I wish the braves would sign, he’s still young and has a lot of potential when he’s in the lineup.
Lew
February 12th, 2010
10:41 am
Arkansas Transplant-Yeah, the Tigers indulged in a spending frenzy a few years back Look where THAT got them. Can you say Dontrelle Willis? It had to be a deal based on the fact that Dombrowski liked DW from his time in Florida, but any sane human could easily see that DW was shot to hell two years before traveling north. Not sure if the inmates are running the show over there (see also the Renteria trade), but someone needs to get a healthy dose of reality. Then again-ain’t my money or my team. Wonder if we could interest them in JoJo Reyes for their top prospect?
Lew
February 12th, 2010
10:42 am
Ark. Transplant-He’s never IN the lineup. That’s the problem.
Jeff R
February 12th, 2010
10:43 am
Lew, I’m with you. Nothing’s settled unitl a player signs on the dotted line.
lexbrave
February 12th, 2010
10:44 am
while it may be debatable who the #1 college basketball team in the country is, there is no arguing who the #1 college basketball fans are. wow.
“The arrival of ESPN’s College GameDay in the Bluegrass has the True Blue Nation worked into a frenzy.
The show will broadcast from Rupp Arena Saturday morning prior to the game between the University of Kentucky and Tennessee.
ESPN should expect quite a welcome.
UK is hoping to shatter the record for a College GameDay taping. ESPN says that they don’t keep official attendance records, but officials estimate about 8,000 Jayhawk fans showed up in Kansas.
Kentucky has given out 23,000 tickets.
The doors at Rupp Arena will open at 8:30 a.m. Saturday. ESPN will begin doing live look-ins during Sports Center at 10 a.m. GameDay begins at 11 a.m.
The Wildcats and Vols tip off at 9 p.m.”
Don
February 12th, 2010
10:44 am
Before we get too excited about Heyward and his great natural hitting talent for this season; remember how Bobby Cox failed to develop/wasted and failed to develop Andruw Jones – one of the greatest natural hitting talents in baseball history.
Lew
February 12th, 2010
10:45 am
Just checked Baldelli’s sats-Dude has played in a max of 92 games since 04 (once-the rest come nowhere close to that) – missed 05 completely and only played 62 last year. Definitely not worth even aminor league contract, IMO.
Lew
February 12th, 2010
10:46 am
Don-Keep pawing that turf with your foot.
KC
February 12th, 2010
10:46 am
Lew, are you suggesting that the Renteria trade didn’t work out for them? =)
RHR
February 12th, 2010
10:46 am
OK snowing here now. Its the really tiny, fine, snow but its coming down pretty hard, just can’t see it very well.
McFann
February 12th, 2010
10:46 am
RHR–
I was just playin’ around.
I do hope we get some snow, though. I mean, a “snowed in” weekend isn’t much fun unless you have some snow on the ground.
DAP–
I. Hate. AJC mobil.
McFann
February 12th, 2010
10:48 am
Soph We should have a return of Rally countdown.
Yeah! Maybe Braveheart cann give us a hand with that…
Arkansas Transplant
February 12th, 2010
10:49 am
It really amazes me what some of these supposably baseball savy people are thinking when they sign these players. There’s definitely more involved than we know, I’m sure there’s a lot of “if you scatch my back, I’ll scratch your back” negotiating going on.
Daslied
February 12th, 2010
10:49 am
Did Don really just say Andruw was “one of the greatest natural hitting talents in baseball history”?
Good one!
KC
February 12th, 2010
10:49 am
For the people who lost their minds over the Vazquez trade (principally for the kid Vizcaino), I like to remind them of the people who said “Jurrjens who?! Couldn’t we have gotten more for Renteria?!!”
Wayne in Utah
February 12th, 2010
10:49 am
Don
Wow! What a interesting theory! So, it was Bobby Cox who ruined Andruw in his 11th full season with the Braves.
I wonder why he waited until the 11th season to work his magic over Andruw? Maybe the answer is that your full of bull sheet? Don-chathink?
dmack2027
February 12th, 2010
10:49 am
Nobody is saying that owners do not make bad decisions when it comes to contracts. I am just not convinced that the Tigers’ offer is as lucrative as everyone believes.
Ozzie
February 12th, 2010
10:50 am
Foxs is a bs site and ESPN parrots what they say. Compound ignorance nothing more.
If there was a one or two year deal on the table at 7mm per DET would have landed Damon yesterday and the press conference would already be over.
It’s all horesh-t.
He may go to another team but I suspect Wren is still very much in this and has the class and brains not to let anything he does into the public eye.
Even his supposed 4-5mm offer is likely a guesstimate.
Let the process unfold.
Wayne in Utah
February 12th, 2010
10:52 am
Excellent point KC. It’s going to be exciting over the next 5 years watching some of these young hurlers develop, those on the roster, and those coming up through the system.