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Shanks A Lot
February 12th, 2010
12:44 am
“Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die. “
uga-brave
February 12th, 2010
12:45 am
nolie,
i hated that process. i think they knew all along they were gonna bring up hanson.
definetely was not handled right.
our own DOB, watched glavine in side sessions and asked when is glav gonna throw a one. says a lot, right?
The Grinch
February 12th, 2010
12:46 am
That’s not entirely true; I feel better there’s no further animosity. He DID do a lot for this team despite his personality. I loved his pitching…I’ll go that far.
David O'Brien
February 12th, 2010
12:47 am
I come in praise of Ipod Shuffle. Because outside of the DVR and excluding advances in medical technology or whatever, is there another invention in the past 15-20 years that’s worked more superbly than Ipod Shuffle?
I say this because earlier I was a little upset over having to pass on an offer of a free ticket to see Them Crooked Vultures tonight at Tabernacle, on account of work. But then I went to the gym late tonight and slapped on the Ipod, and these songs played in order: “Ocean Size” (Jane’s Addiction), “I Believe” (R.E.M.), “Big Poppa” (Notorious B.I.G.), “Time of the Season” (the Zombies), “Mama Tried” (Merle Haggard), “Sweet and Dandy” (Toots & The Maytals), and “Viva Sea-Tac” (Robyn Hitchcock).
And I was happy. What an invention. We can have our own world’s greatest jukebox, programmed by us, any time.
The Grinch
February 12th, 2010
12:50 am
Uga-brave, if he had shown he could be even vaguely effective in his rehab starts he would have had a shot. Even he admits it now. Did he pitch at ALL, much less well, for anyone else after we cut him? How bad does a 300 game winning lefty have to be for NOBODY to even give him a shot? The right decision was made, and then some.
AtTheMike
February 12th, 2010
12:50 am
I said earlier that we should just let the damon talk go, but….
soph— how could you not have wanted damon? How could any braves not want this guy?
High average leadoff guys that have some pop and maybe most importantly of all a winner…these players don’t grow on trees.
Sounds kind of corny, but it’s true.
uga-brave
February 12th, 2010
12:50 am
grinch, the fact you would boo glavine bothers me. it is over.
he took more money you would not? over four years. a lot more.
nolie
February 12th, 2010
12:51 am
i think they knew all along they were gonna bring up hanson.
definetely was not handled right Uga
I totally disagree Uga. I thought they gave him a chance and would have been foolish to take it any further than they did. but I’m not a guy who gets all gaga over ballplayers or sentimental over ex-Braves. I do think they would have used him if he looked good enough, but they may have thought that was unlikely from the beginning. If they did then they were even nicer than need be to allow him to rehab on their money at all.
Shanks A Lot
February 12th, 2010
12:51 am
iPod touch is where it’s at. I’m bogging on one right now. 32 gig, does just about anything an iPhone can, except make phone calls. No monthly fee though. It’s perfect so long as you have wireless ( or one of your neighbors do)
nolie
February 12th, 2010
12:54 am
gee I just use a 16GB USB thingy. Plugs into my receiver in the car or at home. WAY cheaper.
David O'Brien
February 12th, 2010
12:57 am
uga-brave: Yes, those initial Glavine side sessions, and the intrasquad games he pitched in spring training, were fairly alarming. First time Bowman and I watched him pitch in a Monday intrasquad game at spring training, we kind of looked at each other in stunned silence, eyebrows raised….
I actually meant Atlanta was full of yuppies and thugs, and the real men were to be found on the outside. I view Atlanta as a good place to occasionally go into for cultural reasons. — The Grinch
So the real men live outside the city and go into Atlanta for culture? Noted.
The Grinch
February 12th, 2010
12:57 am
Once again, for some reason (I HATE having to explain the obvious to people) when you make A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS playing a child’s game for one city in 20 years, which is more money than you or I could spend without being ridiculous, and you decide to sign with the decided straight up rival because they’re offering 33 mil as opposed to the team that made you who you were in the first place offering you 30 mil (which was more than you appeared to be worth at the time) and you move to a city that’s way more expensive (essentially negating the extra 3 mil) and leave your family, city, teammates and fans behind just to make a union point…
How the HELL does that equate to me taking a bigger paycheck than I do now which barely stocks my beer fridge?
IT DOESN’T. Please take that %$#% somewhere else.
Shanks A Lot
February 12th, 2010
12:58 am
Nolie,
I have no doubt it’s less expensive, but can you blog on it
The Grinch
February 12th, 2010
1:02 am
Not all, David; blanket statements are silly in general. I’d never say a city of 5 million (give or take) had no real men in it. But per capita compared to the rest of the state? Atlanta’s pathetic. Take a road trip down any old Ga highway and see the difference in pool halls, BBQ joints, and just about any other measure other than vapidity and you’d be surprised.
uga-brave
February 12th, 2010
1:02 am
nolie,
i think we are agreeing but missing, if they gave him a start, would of owed him. if they think they knew how it would of ended, who knows.
still a long time to parade around a hall of famer.
so for all you haters glavine is a class act and you should be happy he is was a brave.
nolie
February 12th, 2010
1:02 am
no, but I don’t blog on the phone I do have. my eyes are too old and my thumbs are too fat and I’m too broke(cheap) to pay extra charges to the phone company. I have the dirt cheapest plan available, 200 hours and don’t come close to using half of them most months.
Shanks A Lot
February 12th, 2010
1:04 am
Grinch
Valid points on Glav, but in the end I couldn’t care less. Glav pitched 8 innings of one hit shutout ball in game six of the ‘95 series. For that I am eternally grateful. Besides no matter what Smoltz is a much bigger tool.
nolie
February 12th, 2010
1:07 am
Besides no matter what Smoltz is a much bigger tool. SAL
amen to that, never did like the guy. not a reflection on him as a pitcher. the fact is that there are a lot of ubercompetitive players who are a pain to be around.
StingerSplash
February 12th, 2010
1:07 am
Wish I was ocean size
they cannot move you no one tries
no one pulls you out from your hole
Nothing’s Shocking remains one of the great albums of all time.
Jane’s Addiction>>>>>Green Day and other posers.
Bad Scooter
February 12th, 2010
1:08 am
nothin’ better than a little B.I.G. when you’re working out
StingerSplash
February 12th, 2010
1:09 am
Shanks,
Re: your 12:44
“Stop saying that!”
The Grinch
February 12th, 2010
1:12 am
Then we can all agree; I said I was indifferent to Glav now (if anything moderately glad at the overall outcome) and not Smoltz. UGA, if he’d been able to break a pane of glass, he would have gotten a start. Should they have given him one anyway? Sure, if he hadn’t been a douche when he cut out for “business” earlier. You reap what you sow.
uga-brave
February 12th, 2010
1:12 am
grinch, you ever made a hundred million? me neither.
but at the end of your ability to make a large income would you turn down a 100 dollar bill or a twenty dollar bill?
cmon, not saying you grinch, but that is rare air.
Shanks A Lot
February 12th, 2010
1:14 am
40. “They’ve done studies, you know. Sixty percent of the time, it works every time.” — Anchorman
Shanks A Lot
February 12th, 2010
1:15 am
“Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they’re fascist.”
Wayne in Utah
February 12th, 2010
1:17 am
Grinch
Well said…..while I am a free market person, I am also a loyalty person. If the Braves had insulted him (pay attention Smoltz), then he would have been easily justified in leaving.
I just think you can look at Chipper to see what I am talking about.
uga
While I would never stand in the way of someone getting the best deal they can, I think there are a lot of agents (and CEO’s and salesmen) out there that get their clients a great deal, without reaching the levels of contempt that Boras does.
I am all for the players getting the best deal they can get…….BUT
There is also a time when the greed of a player puts them into a personal situation that could have been avoided by some logic and principles.
I will forgive Glavine for the Mets debacle. He is saying all the right things now. Do you think he realizes what he did to SOOO many of his adoring fans back then? Was being away from family and stiffing a large portion of his fan base worth about 10% more money (not to mention the cost of living in NYC vs ATL)?
Damon or no Damon…..to me it’s a push. I just hope it ends soon, so we can get onto arguing who will be the 25th man on the roster: Conrad, Hernandez, MJones, Schafer, RYAN FREEL, Nomar, ……
uga-brave
February 12th, 2010
1:17 am
grinch, he was done period. not handled right but the braves made the right choice.
still will always like glavine.
just about two years ago that everybody celebrated his return.
The Grinch
February 12th, 2010
1:17 am
“Nothing Shocking” was a truly great album. I remember playing the acoustic riff of “Jane Says” for about three straight hours in ‘90 or ‘91 at a small gathering and making up new lyrics while tripping ’till the phone rang and ^%$#-ed everything up. THAT was shocking.
Shanks A Lot
February 12th, 2010
1:18 am
“I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it’s an ethos.”
N8
February 12th, 2010
1:20 am
It’s made from real panther, so you know it’s good.
Shanks, I’ve got a 32 gig iPod touch as well. I never would have spent the money on it (had a 4 gig generic mp3 player before and was cool with it). But now that I’ve had it for almost a year, I can’t imaging NOT having it. Spent the 10 bucks for the MLB application and as long as I’m within wi-fi, I could listen to the WSB Braves feed. Somehow managed to find a sweet spot where my 9 year old practiced baseball last summer, so I could listen to the games while out and about.
Crazy how attached you get to something, that you managed to live without for the first 38 years of your life.
Wayne in Utah
February 12th, 2010
1:21 am
uga
If it meant uprooting my family, or upsetting my fan base, I would turn down the $100 bill.
What was it the the Beatles said? “Money can’t buy you love”
N8
February 12th, 2010
1:23 am
I meant to add that while I would never have spent the money on the iPod touch, my wife bought it for me for my B-Day last year.
The Grinch
February 12th, 2010
1:23 am
I hear you, UGA, and I have no problem with that. It’s all good. And who knows, I might have snatched a few extra myself in the same spot; it’s hard to tell without being there. I just doubt it. I was raised to be loyal to those who backed me when I was broke.
Shanks A Lot
February 12th, 2010
1:24 am
N8
Completely agree. I barely crack open my laptop now that I have the iPod touch. I don’t know how I ever did without it. Wife hates it though.
Wayne in Utah
February 12th, 2010
1:25 am
Grinch
Loyalty is a lost trait these days, my friend……
Sad that it is.
Shanks A Lot
February 12th, 2010
1:25 am
Mine was a birthday gift as well.
nolie
February 12th, 2010
1:26 am
Money can’t buy you love” Wayne
you ain’t shoppin’ in the right part of town then my friend:)
Shanks A Lot
February 12th, 2010
1:26 am
“Excuse me stewardess, I speak jive.”
uga-brave
February 12th, 2010
1:26 am
wyane, guess what? those days are long gone.
we were lucky that we had a owner and g.m. that understood locking up that trio was a perogative.
traded away justice and grissom to lock up those three, right?
not much bitching after that right?
blah, blah, no chmpionships after that right?
The Grinch
February 12th, 2010
1:28 am
N8, I’m the same way. A “girl who is otherwise crazy but I sometimes deal with her anyway ’cause she’s reasonably hot” got me a 4th generation Nano with the shuffle feature last Christmas…actually, the one before that, which I never would have bought on my own. I don’t use the shuffle unless I’m blitzed; when I work out I tend to get in the groove of one band or another and stick with it.
nolie
February 12th, 2010
1:31 am
Excuse me stewardess, I speak jive
Shirley you jest
Shanks A Lot
February 12th, 2010
1:31 am
Uga-brave
maybe if Wohlers throws Leyritz a 100 mph heater instead of a hanging slider, the Bravos get that second title.
uga-brave
February 12th, 2010
1:31 am
97′
ran into kevin brown and livian hernanadaez and eric gregg,
98′
kevin brown, andy ashby, and sterling hitchcock.
Shanks A Lot
February 12th, 2010
1:32 am
Don’t call me Shirley
Bad Scooter
February 12th, 2010
1:32 am
Just watched Funny People. I am a huge Apatow and Seth Rogen fan, definitely not the usual movie you’d suspect from them, that is why I waited to rent it. Not a bad flick though.
uga-brave
February 12th, 2010
1:33 am
shanks, if were its and buts it would be?
The Grinch
February 12th, 2010
1:34 am
I hear you, Wayne.
Shanks, that was Barbara Billingsly from “Leave it to Beaver” that played that role. Awesome, no? I always have and still do love her. Women like that still exist OUTSIDE Atlanta. The others want all the benefits of chivalry AND all the benefits of feminism without earning squat (other than more money than men for the same job). I’m not the man to deliver that. It’s give and take, not one way or the other.
Shanks A Lot
February 12th, 2010
1:37 am
First Jive Dude: Shiiiiit, maaaaan. That honky muf’ be messin’ mah old lady… got to be runnin’ cold upside down his head, you know?
Second Jive Dude: Hey home’, I can dig it. Know ain’t gonna lay no mo’ big rap up on you, man!
First Jive Dude: I say hey, sky… subba say I wan’ see…
Second Jive Dude: Uh-huh.
First Jive Dude: …pray to J I did the same ol’ same ol’!
Second Jive Dude: Hey… knock a self a pro, Slick! That gray matter backlot perform us DOWN, I take TCB-in’, man!
First Jive Dude: Hey, you know what they say: see a broad to get dat booty yak ‘em…
First Jive Dude, Second Jive Dude: …leg ‘er down a smack ‘em yak ‘em!
First Jive Dude: COL’ got to be! Y’know? Shiiiiit.
nolie
February 12th, 2010
1:37 am
You’d better tell the Captain we’ve got to land as soon as we can. This woman has to be gotten to a hospital.
A hospital? What is it?
It’s a big building with patients, but that’s not important right now
Shanks A Lot
February 12th, 2010
1:37 am
I wonder how long that will stay up?
uga-brave
February 12th, 2010
1:38 am
wayne, we sit here and say that loyalty.
we are all plebes. think about the difference in 5 or 7 million dollars.
well that is two large. invested in a annuity it would pay your grandchildern a hansome income. ever think about that?
Shanks A Lot
February 12th, 2010
1:39 am
“I picked a bad day to stop doing amphetemines”
The Grinch
February 12th, 2010
1:39 am
Translation: “Golly!”
uga-brave
February 12th, 2010
1:40 am
grinch, murray or zach?
already heard the mat drills return who is the leader?
nolie
February 12th, 2010
1:40 am
Striker, listen, and you listen close: flying a plane is no different than riding a bicycle, just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.
The Grinch
February 12th, 2010
1:41 am
Shanks, you mean the airplane, or that post? I picked a bad day to stop sniffing glue.
nolie
February 12th, 2010
1:41 am
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.
nolie
February 12th, 2010
1:42 am
There’s no reason to become alarmed, and we hope you’ll enjoy the rest of your flight. By the way, is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?
Shanks A Lot
February 12th, 2010
1:43 am
The post, might be a few questionable words in the quote.
uga-brave
February 12th, 2010
1:44 am
dead stick
The Grinch
February 12th, 2010
1:47 am
I’d be surprised if i wasn’t Murray; he’s more dynamic. Met will likely make a better pro and could certainly do well for UGA, but I’d place my money on Murray. Likin’ the switch to the 3-4; may be a mess this year but will pay off down the stretch.
Wayne in Utah
February 12th, 2010
1:53 am
uga
You are right. It is a huge amount of cash. Let’s say that a ballplayer has made 50 million in his career (trying to make a guess as to Damon’s take for his career). He has a chance to raise that to 55 million, or 57 million. In the grand scheme of things, it’s not huge.
I wouldn’t begrudge Damon the extra 2 million. BUT, don’t take an offer from Detroit, and then talk about wanting to play for a world series contender. If that was his desire, then why didn’t he take the first Yankee offer…..or even grovel a bit and come back to them a few weeks ago, before they signed Randy Winn?
So, don’t say you want to play for Bobby and the Braves, then take 2 million more to go to Detroit. It just doesn’t compute.
If another company offered me a job, I would only listen if it were over 33% higher than my pay today. I wouldn’t leave for less. For us regular joe’s, we have to think about health insurance, housing, vacation, etc…..beyond the pay issue.
For a professional baseball player who has been able to hone his skills and make a lot of money, let’s say over 10 million, then the issues are not insurance, housing, vacation days, etc. So yes, I do get frustrated when they have an agent who tries to squeeze every extra nickel out of a multi million dollar contract.
Yea, loyalty is a dying trait, and I do miss it.
I remember when I went into the Air Force in 1974, a year out of high school. I worked in the cotton mill in my hometown for a few years. Every year at Christmas, I would get a $25 dollar check in the mail from them for my Christmas bonus, as they assumed I would come back after serving my country. When I ended up not returning, only then did they stop the payments.
I miss those days……
nolie
February 12th, 2010
1:54 am
might be a few questionable words in the quote. S A L
AJC censor obviously don’t speak no jive
Shanks A Lot
February 12th, 2010
1:55 am
Alright guys, I’m out. Time to sleep. Perhaps when I wake up Damon will have signed somewhere. G’night all.
Mitchie-san
February 12th, 2010
1:55 am
lol…Srtiker’s “drinking problem” never got old….
nolie
February 12th, 2010
1:56 am
Let’s say that a ballplayer has made 50 million in his career (trying to make a guess as to Damon’s take for his career). H WAYNE
Damon has made over 97 million buckeroos so far
The Grinch
February 12th, 2010
2:01 am
Yeah, Damon made 13 last year at 35 and that wasn’t exactly his coming out party…he ain’t hurting.
nolie
February 12th, 2010
2:01 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aci0ItpdUm4
The Blues Had a baby & they named it Rock & Roll
Pickens
February 12th, 2010
2:02 am
DOB,
Chances Damon signs with the Braves…?
40%…
Wayne in Utah
February 12th, 2010
2:06 am
nolie
Do my points make sense??? I know that sometimes when a person’s situation puts them WAY out of the reality of most, they lose perspective.
I remember an interviewer about 10 years ago ask a pro basketball player how much money he thought a family of 4 would spend per person to come to one of his games. He says about 2-3 thousand dollars per person…….(10 years ago)
I guess what I am saying is that if a guy hasn’t set himself up to be secure for the rest of his life, and for all his progenity, then he should go for the extra 2 million dollars. If the player HAS taken care of his future, then I would love to see more loyalty to their fan base. Or at least don’t say your in it for the chance to play for a winner, then go to the Detroit Tigers. It does not compute.
Now if he is looking for guaranteed playing time, then just take the best cash offer and go to Detroit.
Don’t know why I am arguing this, as I DO hope he takes the Tigers offer, for purely selfish reasons…..I want to see our existing players get more at bats.
nolie
February 12th, 2010
2:09 am
I just don’t think there is much of that kinda thinking around anymore Wayne especially with a player who has jumped around during his career, which most have now days.For many there is ego tied into it too. aaand the union frowns on such shenanigans too yaknow
uga-brave
February 12th, 2010
2:11 am
wayne, you and i see that because we speak in simple terms. we dont know what makes damon surf.
we dont know about failed investments or good investments.
athletes dont have a great track record of investments.
14 mill vs. 4.5 deferred
good or bad i take the money. anybody that says they would not is a liar.
Wayne in Utah
February 12th, 2010
2:12 am
I guess baseball reflects society, in some respects. Damned sad, for sure. I better shut the heck up before I get banned….
G’nite folks.
Wayne in Utah
February 12th, 2010
2:14 am
uga
tell me about it. My 401K lost over 50% back in ‘08, and is only 40% of the way back……..
it’s now a race between death and retirement…….who gets here first?
(I noticed when I respond to your post, I don’t capitalize correctly!!! weird)
nolie
February 12th, 2010
2:16 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liX7zPV095Q&feature=related
Muddy Waters – Champagne & reefer
uga-brave
February 12th, 2010
2:17 am
wayne, join the crowd you are not alone
uga-brave
February 12th, 2010
2:23 am
it happens. the ninties were great. nobody owes that kind of return.
there was a time you could dump your money in a janus fund, or fidelity magellan.
uga-brave
February 12th, 2010
2:27 am
great returns in that decade. things change. adapt.
haggard
February 12th, 2010
2:30 am
Goodnight Wayne in Utah
uga-brave
February 12th, 2010
2:33 am
it happened in the 70’s. zero gdp. not a gold guy though. there are some great earnings coming through the mobile internet guys. cisco just had their somewhat best quarter ever.
if you want yield intel pays around 3.5 %. And their earnings and gross margins are off the charts.
NO MORE BOBBY
February 12th, 2010
2:35 am
Anyone know if the Skip “Braves Win!” call is available anywhere for ring tone?
The Grinch
February 12th, 2010
2:53 am
I’m there with you to an extent, Wayne, but the diff between a 1 year 4.5 with half of it deferred and a 2 year 14 is pretty substantial, especially considering it’s likely his last major contract and he’s a mercenary not tied to any one city(especially ours)…I don’t blame the dude at ALL. Now, if it was me and it was a 1/8 from Detroit and a 1/4.5 from ATL, I’d think about it if I’d already made as much as he has. I’d probably go Atlanta at the last minute. But a 2/14? Afro-centric American, please. I’d have the Magnum P.I. hat ready. There HAVE to be a few decent places to stay there hotel wise still, surely. Yeah, I know; stop calling you Shirley.
David O'Brien
February 12th, 2010
2:53 am
Yeah, Damon made 13 last year at 35 and that wasn’t exactly his coming out party…he ain’t hurting. — Grinch
That’s right. He made $13 mill each of the past four seasons, and has totaled over $97 mill in his career.
The Grinch
February 12th, 2010
3:03 am
Really, though; it’d be hard to finish out in Detroit. Like it is now? That’d be depressing. But maybe that’s what Boras told Dombrowski as he mind-raped him. That’s a lot of cheddar. Plus the two year deal, which seemed important.
The Grinch
February 12th, 2010
3:05 am
I meant the city, not the team. I’d not be upset to play under Jim Leyland, by any means.
Voice of Harold
February 12th, 2010
3:08 am
DOB, re: you’re IPOD Shuffle selections. I would never with your selections individually. All good stuff. Can’t imagine listening to Haggard, Hitchcock, and B.I.G. in succession. Wow. Jarring.
Voice of Harold
February 12th, 2010
3:08 am
I would never “argue”, I meant to say.
Voice of Harold
February 12th, 2010
3:10 am
And let us know what you think of Maddy’s. My family loves it.
Voice of Harold
February 12th, 2010
3:11 am
I, for one, can’t wait to see Schafer and Heyward in the same outfield. No 2 year offers to Damon, please, FW.
The Grinch
February 12th, 2010
3:23 am
But really, y’all; this team’s got a solid shot at the NL east. We’ll be fine without Damon; he would have been nice but he ain’t here, and our potential outfit ain’t bad. We’ll be fine. If anyone looks like a bust in ST, we’ll make a move. Plenty of pieces. This team will win 88-92 as constituted (barring major injury) and likely be in the running for the NL East. Quote me later.
Voice of Harold
February 12th, 2010
3:41 am
Well, quote me on this: All good teams need to be a little lucky. The Braves will get lucky with Glaus this year (no major injury bugs), and he’ll hit .290 with 30+ dingers. Braves will finish with 90+ wins.
GovClintonTyree
February 12th, 2010
6:22 am
Scene from Kissimmee, Part I:
Frank Wren is in his office at Dark Star. Tom Glavine walks in.
FW: Hey, Tom. Thanks for coming in. I’ve got a Special Project for you.
TG: Hey, Frank. F*** you.
Not sure how well this is going to go.
GovClintonTyree
February 12th, 2010
6:32 am
Scene from Kissimmee, Part II:
FW: So, Tom, John asked me to look around, see ways in which you might contribute to the organization given your unique experience and skillset. We’ve got a number of young pitchers in camp, and obviously have started forming some opinions on them. I’d like you to go to the back fields and watch Delgado, Teheran, Hyde and Kimbrel, tell me what you think. Here’s some scouting report forms.
TG: Gee, Frank, I’d like to, but James Jackson is sick so I’m filling in on SportSouth. See that family out there on the LF berm? I’ve got them lined up to talk about the food at the park and how convenient it is for a family to come over here from the Magic Kingdom.
FW: Tom, aren’t baseball-related matters more important?
TG: Hey, Frank. F*** you.
GovClintonTyree
February 12th, 2010
6:42 am
Scenes from Kissimmee, Part III:
FW: So, Tom, I’ve got a call with Boras at about 2 pm. He’s going to be asking for a second year, and I don’t want to give it to him. I know you’ve been involved in a number of negotiations yourself, I thought you might want to sit in. You might find it interesting to watch a master work.
TG: Frank, I hear the Tigers are going two years on Damon at $7m per. How are you going to top that?
FW: What I thought I’d do is sweeten the pot a little bit, go up to $5m. Johnny’s made his money, he doesn’t need to go the extra $2m. Then I thought I’d offer a mutual option for the second year with maybe a $1m buyout. Don’t give away any power; I can just cut him and Boras’ll never know what I’m doing. See, Tom, agents are idiots. And players are like cattle.
TG: Hey, Frank, F*** you.
The Grinch
February 12th, 2010
6:52 am
Such language!
GovClintonTyree
February 12th, 2010
7:00 am
Scenes from Kissimmee, Part IV:
JS: Tom, I asked Frank to try and get you involved, kind of help you get your feet wet as a baseball executive. But Frank tells me you’ve been less than enthusiastic about several of the things he’s suggested.
TG: John, Frank’s an idiot. Why did you hire him?
JS: Well, Tom, I know he has his blind spots. But he’s a good baseball man with excellent judgement. Little rough with the interpersonal skills, I know. But after Dayton went to KC, what choice did I have?
TG: Go outside the organization, maybe? You couldn’t do better than this? The guy’s a bull in a china shop.
JS: Tom, you’re a smart guy. I’m one of the smartest guys in the world, so I understand your challenges. One of the things you’re going to need to do to be a successful baseball executive is learn how to deal with people less gifted, less committed, less intelligent than you. I would encourage you to set aside your prejudices against Frank and try and work with him. It’ll teach you a lot.
TG: Hey, John, f*** you.
B-rad
February 12th, 2010
7:03 am
Thanks for rekindling old memories, Dave. My Grand parents were from Rocky Mount/Wilson area and would bring Parkers chopped BBQ in those styrofoam containers and packed with dry ice. I can smell my Nana’s kitchen down in Waycross now when she would heat those sandwiches and press em in her skillet. Great childhood memories! Btw, if ever in Waycross try DK’s BBQ!
Steve from OH
February 12th, 2010
7:32 am
nolie–no, that’d be Indian food from India, LOL! Back in college, my roomate’s family owned a restaurant, and we’d go up there sometimes for some free grub. Really good stuff, and spicy too, which I really liked…
GovClintonTyree
February 12th, 2010
7:37 am
Scenes from Kissimmee, Part V:
JS: Tom, I know you’ve got some history with Frank, and it’s not all good. Heck, we’ve got some history, but we’ve managed to work through it. I’m sensing some unresolved anger here that’s going to hamper your development into a top-tier baseball executive. I’ll let you in on something. I kind of see you as a special project – an opportunity for me to clone myself as a baseball leader. In order for you to do that, you’re going to need to check that anger, starting with your language. This is a boardroom, not a clubhouse.
TG: Yeah, I suppose I can see that. I’ll work on it. And I’ll try to work with Frank, be a little more open-minded.
JS: I’d appreciate that. Thanks.
FW walks in.
FW: Hey, Tom. I need to run something by John. You mind getting me a cup of coffee, cream and Splenda?
TG: Hey, Frank….
Couch Tater
February 12th, 2010
7:51 am
I think DOB should pick up a full season of, ” The Tom & Frank Show w/Governor Clinton Tyree”
(Those have been some good at-bats Gov. I hope this Russ Meyer clip will provide more inspiration)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdJcRMFk97w