1:54 am February 5, 2010, by David O'Brien
February 11th, 20105:52 pm
“Why all this praise for Damons agent this offer is not better than the yanks offered and he has to play for the tigers…ouch”
Exactly. That’s like diving into the water when the life raft starts taking on water, then you get your arm bit off by a shark, and nothing happened to anybody in the raft. Then saying “well, this was the best option once I jumped into the water.
Bottom line is that Boras mis-read the market for him. Left a higer offer on the table from the team that just won the WS, and had played for for the past 4 seasons.
Boras’ greed and Damon’s pride (in not accepting the initial Yankees offer), cost them money. And as you said…..
Now he’s a Tiger. Ouch indeed. Who knows? Maybe it’ll all work out in the end with Kid Rock and Ted Nugent playing at his B-Day party. Eminem can be the MC.
Though, I have to admit, if he does get the 2 year deal at 14 million, it will be more than I thought he was going to get (in money and years) earlier in the week.
February 11th, 20105:53 pm
Dogs….and needless to say, I’m WAAAAAAY past the sub 30 set!
February 11th, 20105:54 pm
Just Pat – I think America makes a great product in general in MOST industries…. I go out of my way to buy USA owned and made stuff… things like my furniture (North Carolina made), electronics (VIZIO tv etc), and I effing hate the Chinese/Indian/Japanese con job that has gone on for 10-20 years (although I am guilty of owning a few Subarus downunder)
re Ford – there is something special going on there with Mr Mullaly at FORD. I saw a new Fusion last week at the dealer down the road from my house…. it is a bewdiful little car with everything you need in it… the tech driven marketing will work and will drive that company into a new bull phase… I only hope GM stops their “gas driven” marketing crud and looks at the real game in town….. put a $300 IPOD in there and a fancy schmancy voice driven op system and you have a decent chance for a big profit margin
February 11th, 20105:56 pm
Dogsbrekky, I love to drive Pontiacs because they’re fun, but if you managed to get one that didn’t have the dashboard fall in your lap after 50,000 miles then you should take a photo of it. Got two OLD Chevys and an Acura now, though I’ve owned just about every American denomination over the years. Didn’t Mel Gibson drive a Holden in “Mad Max?”
Wayne, I don’t suck up to anyone. Never have. That’s why I don’t make more money than I do.
dogs-Only ever had problems with one Chevy. One out of ten or so ain’t all that bad. Driven the large majority of them well over 100,000 miles. This Malibu Max I have has been an exceptional car. The only problems I’ve had have been as a direct result of the God ASwful roads up here. The massive temperature swings (95 to minus 38 at one time or another since I’ve been here) wreck havoc on asphalt. It’s impossible to fix all the potholes as soon as they occur.
‘ve been here)
February 11th, 20105:58 pm
Damon is shaping up to be this offseason’s Peavy… the one we talked about all winter and then it never happened. Please no Dye. I’d rather stick ascarecrow out in the OF than have Dye butchering things.
February 11th, 20105:59 pm
Lew – great, my roomie in Las Vegas had 2 Malibus but had big problems with the transmission and radiator etc… but I liked his cars, plenty of guts when you needed it and a nice mid size…
February 11th, 20106:01 pm
Lew, get the Subaru. Then you can change your screen name to Subaru Lew. Plus, they’re better cars, especially off road. Unless you want to drop 40 grand on a 4 wheel drive Chevy pick ‘em up.
February 11th, 20106:10 pm
Grinch-I keep hoping Chevy’ll break down and actually listen to their customers and build what we want. I’ll take a 4 wheel drive version of the Malibu Max I have now. They discontinued it- though it doesn’t have 4 wheel drive, which is sometimes a good thing with the snow we usually get up here (but haven’t this year).
I can drive through about 4inches of snow with nothing more than front wheel drive and my good snow tires, but 4 inches is a minor snow fall most of the time.
Eric from MO
Redstick some of you talked about it, for no reason. The Braves didnt even make an offer till yesterday. You cant blame the Braves for fan stupidity. I said a long time ago it wasnt going to happen. I still dont know why it was talked about so long. Im just glad it is about over.
February 11th, 20106:12 pm
Though there are only a few weeks remaining in baseball’s offseason, one curious storyline has emerged. Free agent Cuban defectors Leslie Anderson and Jose Julio Ruiz, both left-handed first baseman with outfield experience, were unblocked by the U.S. government (it’s now officially been determined they will not contribute to communist activities in Cuba) and are eligible to sign with an MLB team. Anderson is scheduled to have an open workout in Cancun, Mexico, on Friday.
With most teams having already set their major league rosters, both Ruiz and Anderson will likely be competing for the same money and opportunities. Since both are too old to be considered prospects (Ruiz’s handlers say he’s 24, while last year’s World Baseball Classic media guide lists Anderson as 27) they are considered major league ready and will likely be on the major league roster for whichever team each signs with.
“They are similar players,” one American League team executive said.
What separates them? La Esquina decided to do its own version of tale of the tape:
While playing in Cuba, most estimates had Ruiz at about 6-foot-2, and anywhere from 200-210 pounds. Now, after almost a year out of Cuba spent working and eating better, Ruiz is up to almost 230 pounds, according to agent Joel Bello.
“Ruiz is a David Ortiz- looking dude,” said one Latin American scouting director.
Added Bello: “Due to the work he has put into his body and his natural abilities, Ruiz has become a prototypical power hitter.”
Meanwhile, Anderson is considered more of a solidly-built athlete who was listed at 6-foot-1, 205 pounds at last year’s WBC.
“He’s built like a Greek god,” said the Latin American scouting director, “He’s got a great body, better than Ruiz has.”
Though Ruiz has played in centerfield and in left field in the Cuban National Series, his bigger size now likely makes him a first baseman, who could possibly play a corner outfield spot.
Anderson is considered such a good athlete that he’s likely still able to play the outfield. Agent Jaime Torres is marketing Anderson as primarily an outfielder who has the ability to play first base. Anderson played first base in last year’s WBC, but was listed as an outfielder.
“Leslie can play all three outfield positions,” Torres said. “He’s a legit centerfielder with a right fielder’s arm.”
Though Ruiz has always had a thick body type, he’s never been considered a true power hitter. During the 2007-08 season, Ruiz hit .341 with 11 home runs and 69 RBIs. He hit 21 doubles and walked 44 times while striking out about 49 times (you can read more about his career numbers here). Last year, prior to defecting, Ruiz hit .305/.408/.467 in 52 games.
His added weight could turn him into more of a power hitter, but it will certainly take away from his baserunning abilities. Ruiz led the National Series with 32 stolen bases in 07-08.
“Ruiz has explained to me that while in Cuba he did not focus much on hitting for power, he worked the counts and hit the other way very frequently,” Bello said. “Ruiz understands how much emphasis is placed on the long ball in the bigs and has adapted his mind set.”
Most consider Anderson more of a power hitter than Ruiz . In the 07-08 season, Anderson hit .336 with 19 home runs and 63 RBI and a .455 OBP in 330 at-bats. Last year, Anderson hit .381 with 13 home runs and 66 RBI and a .502 slugging percentage in just 299 at-bats (see his full stats here).
Yet despite, Anderson’s monster numbers, several scouts say they prefer Ruiz’s swing.
“[Ruiz's] got a much shorter stroke,” the international scouting director said. “I like his swing much better, but I’ve never seen him play in a game.”
Though Ruiz played several years in the National Series for Santiago de Cuba, his overall resume doesn’t quite stack up to that of Anderson’s, who debuted for Camaguey in 2000 and has represented Team Cuba at the 2002 World University Championship and the 2006 and 2009 WBCs. Ruiz has never been a member of Cuba’s “A” team.
“Leslie Anderson got to travel with the big club, but if he was so good, then he would played more,” said the international scouting director. “But then again Alexei Ramirez also traveled with the big club but didn’t play much and he’s turned out good so far. Ruiz is old enough where Cuba should have taken him but they chose not to. I’m not sure what that tells you.”
In the two WBCs, Anderson was just 3-for-15 with only one extra base hit. Torres said Anderson was never given a true opportunity to start for Cuba. During last year’s WBC, Torres claims Anderson was only allowed to play because other regulars had been slumping.
Ruiz’s lack of power may have kept him from the national team altogether.
“As in MLB, the Cuban national team has always expected power out of its first basemen,” said agent Joe Kehoskie, who has represented several Cuban players.
Of the two, Ruiz appears closer to signing. The Toronto Blue Jays, Colorado Rockies and Texas Rangers appear most interested in him.
Friday’s workout may determine Anderson’s market. Torres said he expects 12-15 teams — among them will be the New York Yankees, one source confirms — to be at Estadio Andres Quintana Roo in Cancun to scout Anderson.
With less than two weeks remaining until spring training starts, it will be interesting to see whether either can acquire visas in time to report this month. Torres believes Anderson may have an advantage since he’s already received two travel visas to the United States to participate in the WBC.
“I not only expect Anderson to be in major league camp, but I think he’ll be available for the first exhibition games,” Torres said.
February 11th, 20106:14 pm
Thats right TennPaul, the Braves have average pitching. Who cares if they lead the league in ERA and their starters were 2nd in innings? They are defeintly average. No question about it.
dogs-I’ve never found a Chevy (except one new lemon) that had an engine or transmission you could kill. My 72 Malibu was up to 450,000 miles (with the Dude I sold it to) and still had the original transmission in it. The rebuilt 350 we put in it when the original 307 died at 150,000 went at least another 300,000 with occasional valve jobs – Chevy DOES have a history of clattering valves, but the cars keep right on runnin – at least in my experience.
Chevy never has had a good brake design, though.
February 11th, 20106:15 pm
Part of me would like Damon to sign with Braves, but on the other hand another part of me doesn’t want to see Melky get traded to accommodate Damon being signed. I just have a gut feeling Melky could do very well as a Brave. I am not saying he definitely will, but I just have a feeling he could be a potential important piece in 2010 for Braves.
February 11th, 20106:18 pm
Eric- never said I blamed anybody for it (Damon situation). All I meant was that it reminded me of last year’s situation with Peavy. And please don’t try to take credit for thinking the Braves shouldn’t sign Damon. I think you’d be in a very long line on that.
February 11th, 20106:19 pm
Wayne you wouldnt want an agent who makes you rich? An agent who actually does his job? Unless you would represent yourself that makes no sense.
Doggy Vizio tvs are made in other countries too ..as is almost all affordable electronic a/v equipment
Eric- and most bloggers weren’t talking about Damon for no reason- it was because DOB said Braves should do it and might consider it.
February 11th, 20106:21 pm
nolie – dohhhhhhhhhhhh thought Vizio was U.S.A
February 11th, 20106:24 pm
Redstick I was just stating it is nothing like the Peavy situstion where they negotiated with the Padres for a month and a half and made several trade proposals. Instead Wren did very little negotiating and made one small offer at the very end. They were no way the same. That was all I was pointing out.
And why shouldnt I point out I was right again? I admit when I am occasionally wrong. If Damon had accepted the offer I was ready to admit I was wrong, however I said that he would get a two year offer, if he hadnt already recieved one, and he did. I admitted I was wrong months ago when Lowe wasnt traded. I knew they wouldnt get nothing for him, but I believed they could of dumped his salary. See Im one of the few people on here who can actually admit when he/she was wrong. So why in the heck should I not be allowed to admit when I was right?
Eric In Albany N.Y.
February 11th, 20106:26 pm
Redstick19 i agree with you compairing this to peavy! i was one of the guys ranting about how i didnt want him because of how he was treating the ballclub and how he was not man enough to step in as our ace… i feel the same way about damon not wanting to step in and lead our team in his own way… is it just me or has a call from chipper been the kiss of death in getting players to sigh? he called jr… he called damon… i think he may have called jake too!
no one will miss johnny just like no one misses or wishes jake was one of our 5 starters!
i am sticking with my thoughts that if a player doesnt want to come to play in atlanta i dont want them and i dont think they are man enough to make a difference on the team anyway… example AJ, Mr yankee… i dont think anyone misses these names going into 2010 and if you do i dont believe you!
lets stick with this squad and see what we are looking at when the season starts. DONT MAKE MOVES JUST TO MAKE MOVES!
the parent company is USa and they say they do all the designing there, but the manufacturing is in Asia somewhere. They are good tvs for the money though. I’ve got a 46″ plasma in my bedroom. Panasonic plasmas are better, but pricier too
February 11th, 20106:28 pm
nolie-I’ve got a 32 inch Toshiba Regza LCD that has been exceptional.
Eric- no worries, man. I just felt like you were assuming I was blaming the Braves for not getting Damon. Which wasn’t at all what I meant if it came off that way.
February 11th, 20106:29 pm
Redstick it is DOB’s job to write articles and do this blog. While I respect him, he throws out trade proposals just like fans to make his job more interesting. He based this whole non-sense on the fact that the Braves hadnt said “we have no interest in Damon.” You cant honestly think that they were going to make that signing just because they hadnt come out and publically said no we are not interested in it. DOB is a slightly higher fan, since he gets paid to follow the Braves. However, he has nothing to do with Braves movements. So I dont take much of what he says over guys who have been on here awhile such as N8, DAP, and nolie.
February 11th, 20106:33 pm
lets stick with this squad and see what we are looking at when the season starts. DONT MAKE MOVES JUST TO MAKE MOVES! – Eric in Albany
Well stated. Knee-jerk reaction roster moves are for Yanks and Red Sox, not the Braves. I’d be willing to predict that Schafer could fill leadoff role just as well as Damon could at 36-years-old. Damon’s clubhouse presence and experience could be useful- but are they worth $14 million over 2 years?
Wayne in Utah
Eric from MO
If I were a major league ballplayer, ANY agent, or NO agent would make me rich. And hell no, I would not tolerate an agent who uses the tactics of Scott Boras.
I am damned tired of hearing about how he is just doing his job and doing it well.
Ask Jarrod Washburn and Johnny Damon how that’s working out for them NOW.
February 11th, 20106:34 pm
LEW LCD is the wave of the future it seems. Most have stopped making the rear projection tvs and Vizio and Pioneer(the best0 have stopped making plasma. The newest thing in LCD is using LED backlighting which helps with some of the problems that dedicated home theater enthusiasts have with LCD. but it’s now the biggest part of the market and most folks are very happy with them. I would suggest a bigger screen next time if you are a movie watcher though.
nolie – I have a few tvs here and there and the best by far is a Vizio 42″, 120hp thingy, awesome picture… better than my LG 46″
I love looking at all of the pretty sheilas on hdtv now, you can see all the lines and flaws……… woo hoo
February 11th, 20106:35 pm
DOB is a slightly higher fan, since he gets paid to follow the Braves. However, he has nothing to do with Braves movements. So I dont take much of what he says over guys who have been on here awhile such as N8, DAP, and nolie. – Eric from MO
If you feel this way about DOB, then why read his blog religiously? Seems counter-productive. Just saying.
February 11th, 20106:36 pm
Wayne ol’ buddy, you ain’t helping yourself any…
Bravito thanks for that information. I hadnt heard anything about that. It dont mean much to me yet since I have never heard of them, but Im sure it will next season if they are really good. I doubt the Braves are in on Anderson considering they dont have alot of money left. Then again how much could any team have left this late in the offseason, unless you got a bottomless bank account like the Yankees.
nolie-I love the thing. Only problem is I’ve had it two years. Got it a year before the prices tanked. By today’s standards, I probably paid too much.
February 11th, 20106:37 pm
Would anyone agree with me that all the leaks and public embarrisment wren had last offseason as a result of how much got out about to the public made Wren a better GM this year?
February 11th, 20106:38 pm
Redstick because I like discussing the Braves. It is also where I get my Braves information. Believe it or not, the ST. Louis Dispatch doesnt write much about the Braves. I also said I respect him, but I guess you didnt want to copy and paste that part.
I take back what I’ve said in the past about Boras. Not that he isn’t the root of all evil, mind you, but after he blew a couple of negotiations I thought he’d gotten so greedy he’d lost his touch. The Yanks offered Damon Yankee money and he turned it down. NOBODY was interested in giving this guy more than utility outfielder money for one season, and nobody was going to. This was crystal clear. And at the last minute, he gets Yankee money out of someone ANYWAY, when there was absolutely no reason whatsoever to pay him half that for half the term; he could have been had. That dude is amazing; flat out. I still think he’ll ruin baseball, but I can’t help but be impressed. You can say the owners that give into him are stupid as sin, but you don’t become a billionaire by being stupid. I don’t know what he says or does to make smart people do stupid things, but I’d sure like to.
February 11th, 20106:39 pm
Eric in Albany- While I believe Wren learned some very valuable lessons from last winter’s public swing-and-misses, I don’t think it will make him any better or worse of a GM. It will, likely, make him a more tight-lipped PR man though.
February 11th, 20106:40 pm
I’ve been watching the evening news and they’ve been talking about Clinton’s open heart surgery from earlier today. They have reported he’s in “Good Spirits”.
I know I haven’t, but has anyone ever seen anyone in good spirtis after heart surgery – no matter how food the drugs?
Didnt Damon just get finished with a really nice contract that Boras got him? I may be mistaken but I think he made 13 million last year. Im sure Damon is a pretty big fan of Boras.
February 11th, 20106:43 pm
Eric from Mo- fair enough, dude. I don’t feel like going back and forth. We’re both Braves fans, so I’ll just end it on that.
February 11th, 20106:44 pm
Lew, I absolutely love to food the drugs, but usually in reverse order. I mean food after drugs, not that I drug people’s food.
Lew – “money is something you need in case you don’t die tomorrow”
February 11th, 20106:46 pm
Lew – part 2 – funny as someone with a somewhat, “right of Attila the Hun political outlook, I actually quite like Billy Clinton, an effing smart man……”
must be the sex addiction thingy
February 11th, 20106:47 pm
Let’s say that the Braves don’t sign Damon, and that seems like a growing possibility, do you think Atlanta will pursue any other OFs just in case Heyward may not be ready for the jump to the majors? Or are you under the impression that they’re content with Melky/Diaz/Hinske?
February 11th, 20106:49 pm
Redstick19 doesnt that result in a more effective GM? just think he has a lot to learn from JS and that was lesson 1. i think just learning that you have to keep a tight lip makes you better. i think some of us fans get mad because we had one list and wren and Co. had another list and other options that they went with. i sat here and thought every time someone signed or was traded here and said “i didnt think of that move” also “i thought for sure he was going to go for that other guy to fill that spot”. i think a lot of the moves this year could have been a lot worse than they are. and critics of wren get mad because his moves are not the guys with the big names that everyone expected. i can think of 1 guy i figured the braves would sign and they did. and his name is billy wagner.
i think wren did a good job in the last 2 years and i think i have to see what roster plays the first month of the season b4 i can be more critical of the guy. the braves have come a long way from the 2008 season! i give wren a c+ to a B- on what he has done to the club. the guy is still missing 1 part but in 2008 he was missing about 7!
thank god wren is not omar!
Nolie, I have a 50″ Samsung plasma. I know most people don’t like plasma’s because of reflection off the glass, but in a nice dark room like Grinch Den it’s perfect for movie watching. Besides, it kills me to hear people %$^# about glass reflecting light off a TV when ALL TV’s had that problem for 50 years. I remember being excited to have a 19″ color instead of a 14″ B&W. Of course, you probably grew up on a Kinetoscope.
February 11th, 20106:51 pm
I believe as per an earlier DOB story, I think Bobby Cox has said he’s okay with Melky as an everyday guy until Heyward is ready. Not trying to put words in DOB’s mouth, but I seem to recall that being in a story last week.
February 11th, 20106:53 pm
What about Jermaine Dye return to Atlanta? Damon’s numbers are inflated given the parks he played in…Dye would add some nice pop at a discount price.
Count me as one who wanted the Braves in on Johnny Damon. Now count me in as one who thinks it’s nuts to pay Damon 14 mil for two years. Good luck to the Tigers on that deal. They are going to need it!
Ok…..enough of the distractions…..the team is what it is…..bring on spring training.
February 11th, 20106:55 pm
I dont see why the Tigers would up the offer that much considering how Low the Braves offer is. 1 yr 4.5 mil (with deffered money) compared to 2 yr 14 mil???? thats a big jump. You think team’s would play hard ball and say hell take it or leave it. You want a job or not?? If i’m the Tigers i would have just offered 2 yr 10 mil.
February 11th, 20106:56 pm
Eric in Albany- yeah, as I said- it does help him (Wren)in addressing the media/public with moves and potential moves. But I want Wren to be Wren, not Schuerholtz Junior. I mean, if he’s just doing everything JS tells him to do, then why pay Wren when JS is clearly making the moves? I do understand what you’re saying though, Eric. I like Wren’s more agressive style compared to the lifeless JS, so I’m good with the way Wren is now.
February 11th, 20107:00 pm
Count me as one who wanted the Braves in on Johnny Damon. Now count me in as one who thinks it’s nuts to pay Damon 14 mil for two years. – Happy That.
Couldn’t have said it better myself, which is why I just copied and pasted. I think a lot of us feel exactly as you do. Leadership/clubhouse guy for $5 million? Yes, please. For $14 million? I’d say no as soon as I could pick myself up from the floor after laughing thinking it was a joke.
Nolie, I have a 50″ Samsung plasma. I know most people don’t like plasma’s because of reflection off the glass, GRINCH
I love plasma, but I watch in a room that can be made fairly dark. The blacks are deeper on plasma so most who are really really into movies and have a room that isn’t bright go for front projection or plasma. The Pioneer Kuro plasma which unfortunately was recently discontinues was almost unanimously regarded as the best flatscreen tv ever made by every magazine and website dedicated to dedicated flickoholics.
Most people don’t watch in those conditions so they are happy with LCDs. LCDs are brighter so look better in rooms with more lighting.
For what I watch in both rooms I have some reasons to prefer plasma.You just hafta be a little careful about burn-in on plasma which is not an LCD problem.
February 11th, 20107:03 pm
Damon’s numbers are inflated given the parks he played in… Glen
what and Dye’s aren’t playing in the Chicago hitting arena lately?not exactly the comparison I would choose to make
Good deal Redstick19! think we are on the same page and somehow disagreeing about it lol. i dont think wren is trying to be controlled by John but if you have someone around who can help in business and you learn from them or take advice from them it makes you a better manager of your company.
nothing wrong with taking advantage of all your resources. i think john has an intrest in the team so he adds his input. i dont think its much different than asking what bobby thinks or asking chipper to make a call for the team. just think its a great thing to use all your resources is all.
I wouldnt mind the Braves adding Dye for say around 1-2 mil. (Loaf type of Deal) But i dont see him being able to play everyday as a defender. Defense is the deal breaker, considering he’s not just bad, he really really bad out there. Reported that the Indians offered a 3 mil deal and he rejected , but there the only team interested.
Branyan another good power bat (31 homers last season) with injury problems , coming off a great year but isnt getting any attention cause he wanted a 3 or 4 year deal around 10 mil a year lol. when the offseason started. Now it looks like he’ll be lucky to get 3-4 mil. I’d like him if he could still Play outfield but those days are over.
February 11th, 20107:06 pm
i have never seen dye and anderson in the same room? could they be one in the same?
Yeah Redstick Bobby and Wren have both said they are happy with how the team is constructed.
February 11th, 20107:09 pm
The Braves need Johnny Damon. If Heyward doesn’t get the RF job, we are stuck with an OF of Diaz, McLouth, and Cabrera. Thats a horrible OF. Probably the worst in baseball.
February 11th, 20107:10 pm
I looked up Curtis Granderson’s contract and I just dont see how the Tigers can justify trading him and then signing Damon. Granderson would have made $13.75 million combined for the next two years. So signing Damon for $14 million seems to make that trade look like a mistake…
February 11th, 20107:11 pm
Everyone seems to think the Damon to Detroit is set in stone. It’s not…even Schuerholz acknowledged the Braves are in negotiations for him…It’s not over…
February 11th, 20107:12 pm
We hope its over!! Better not offer him anything near that deal they offered lol
Branyan is a box of chocolates kinda guy. You never know what kinda year he is gonna have. and I’m old enough to have little liking for guys with 230ish career batting averages no matter their power. add the constant injury questions and I’d pass. Braves already gave him away once b4 ST even ended. besides as you say he doesn’t really fit all that well with his limited positions and abilities.
February 11th, 20107:13 pm
Andy K. i just hope its over! maybe if i hope it will be fact sooner =)
February 11th, 20107:14 pm
Eric from Albany-
Roger that… on Wren learning fron JS. As long as it’s just “learning” and not controlling.
The funny thing about a box of chocolates is that if u look at the inside of the top of the box you do know what youre going to get!
60 lb head
You are such a man of your word,what happened to I will be back at the start of spring training…….
February 11th, 20107:15 pm
Glavine was asked if, in retrospect, since his arm didn’t feel right when he tried to throw a little later after his June release, if maybe the decision to release him was the best one:
“I can’t sit here in hindsight and say it wasn’t the best thing, because I don’t know what was going to happen. I mean, I don’t know. There were times where my arm felt terrible and times where it felt good. So I didn’t know from one day to the next what was going to happen….
“Was it the best thing? Maybe. Probably. In hindsight. But at that point in time I wasn’t ready to stop pitching. I had done all the work that I needed to do and wanted the opportunity to go back out there. But it didn’t work out, and the guy they brought up here and took my place did pretty well, so it’s hard to argue with all that.”
I looked up Curtis Granderson’s contract and I just dont see how the Tigers can justify trading him and then signing Damon. Granderson would have made $13.75 million combined for the next two years Curt
they were not happy about the way his numbers fell off last season, and have never liked his splits against lefties at all
February 11th, 20107:17 pm
is that if u look at the inside of the top of the box you do know what youre going to get! Eric
funny. now go look at his stats from year to tear and then tell me what you’re gonna get in any upcoming year.
February 11th, 20107:18 pm
Redstick19… I agree with your baseball views! that doesnt happen much here
I really don’t understand some of the anti-Damon logic on here. Hands down, having too many good players is a good problem. I for one still hope Damon comes to Atlanta.
February 11th, 20107:19 pm
until Damon puts his signature on contract with los Tigres, it ain’t over, folks. Let’s not get too cocky just yet.
February 11th, 20107:23 pm
DOB just got the Girls album. Amazing arrangements. Thanks for the tip.
Branyan box top… i see 3 years where his stats get better followed by a year about the same as the first repeating.
mediocre is as mediocre does
Are we actually comparing Branyan to a box of chocolates? That’s funny. With Glaus and Hinske in the fold, I’d pass up the chocolate for some cakes.
February 11th, 20107:24 pm
Damon to Tigers done deal.
February 11th, 20107:26 pm
Reyes20…link? didn’t think so
February 11th, 20107:27 pm
andy k – it’s probably on YouTube. Just search for RickRolled.
February 11th, 20107:28 pm
When I saw that Heyward has already grown to 245lb it made my eyebrows arch.How many guys that big have EVER excelled defensively in the outfield ?
DOB’s comparison of his body to a full grown Derrick Lee is telling..Lee plays first base for a reason.
February 11th, 20107:29 pm
“didn’t think so? Ha?” It’s only a matter of time before that happens. And you know it. I will happily post it here when it does, which will probably be sometime between now and tomorrow.
I agree with your baseball views! that doesnt happen much here Eric
obviously cause you are so much smarter and more knowledgeable than the rest of us.
well except for your curious ignorance of the apostrophe
Someone had a great line on Twitter, had to share it with you all:
#WhiteSox trying to trump #Braves Johnny Damon offer w/promise he can wear Affliction tshirts & skinny jeans in OF. #mlb
February 11th, 20107:30 pm
A-ville, Derek Lee’s a pretty agile/fit guy. Yes there is a reason he plays first…he’s a first basemen…not an OF.
Heard this: The overwhelming expectation among some executives involved in the Johnny Damon bidding is that he will wind up with Tigers.
about 2 hours ago from web
say damons price tag is just about 7.5 by detroit…
and chitown isnt willing to go past like 6.5…
braves still have not said how much they are willing to go…
what team gives damon the best chance to see post season play?
When I saw that Heyward has already grown to 245lb it made my eyebrows arch.How many guys that big have EVER excelled defensively in the outfield ? — A-Ville Ranger
Dave Parker immediately comes to mind. But you’re right, there aren’t many.
February 11th, 20107:31 pm
Are we actually comparing Branyan to a box of chocolates? That’s funny. With Glaus and Hinske in the fold, I’d pass up the chocolate for some cake
if you can’t tell the difference between year to year in Glaus’s career and Branyan’s, well gee what can I say that isn’t an insult?
February 11th, 20107:32 pm
Reyes2010, they don’t post it as done deal until it is a done deal…the whole basis of that post was senseless…you could’ve said: “I think Damon will go to the Tigers”, because that’s what you meant. Last we heard teams are still negotiating…nothing more, nothing less.
Buster Olney seeing how he’s never been wrong on predictions id say its a done deal too Reyes2010
Damn, I was hoping to see Reyes and Pagan and Wright and Beltran going 1st to 3rd on every ball hit into LF when they play the Braves. Reyes could probably score on a single to LF from first with Damon out there, but oh well.
Chris from the Rock
February 11th, 20107:33 pm
What exactly does Wren like about Cabrera? His $3MM is preventing him from being able to offer Damon more $$$. Is it his .269 BA? His lousy slugging percentage? His rediculous sounding first name?
February 11th, 20107:34 pm
Speculation or not, there is NO WAY that Damon accepts the Braves offer unless they trump the Tigers 2 year 14 million deal. The Braves aren’t going to do that. If you love Damon so much, I suggest you buy his Tigers jersey.
February 11th, 20107:35 pm
Chris, If Wren was trying to trade someone like Cabrera to clear up salary, that could be what’s holding back any kind of Damon decisions…
His rediculous sounding first name? Chris
that’s what it is..he’s the Melk-man. I mean how cool is that?
February 11th, 20107:36 pm
Don’t anyone throw stones at this question, I just wondering outloud.
I get the feeling the offer to Damon was to acquire a leadoff hitter, whhich would allow Mclouth to move into a more comfortable spot in the lineup and cover their A**es if Heyward wasn’t ready.
If the main reason was getting a leadoff hitter with a good OBP, I wonder if they have considered Felipe Lopez(High OBP,not much power, better defender than Martin) to play 2nd, while moving Prado to LF. A lineup of: could be interesting from top to bottom
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Reyes2010 Damn, I was hoping to see Reyes and Pagan and Wright and Beltran going 1st to 3rd on every ball hit into LF when they play the Braves. Reyes could probably score on a single to LF from first with Damon out there, but oh well.
#1 they would all have to be healthy at the same time
#2 it wouldnt matter if perez was on the mound cus the braves would score 6 runs each of his 2 innings he would pitch that day
February 11th, 20107:37 pm
Reyes2010, you have no idea what Johnny Damon wants unless he told you. Who’s to say he wouldn’t mind a one year contract on the Braves since they have a better all around team, and a better chance at the post-season. Not to mention if he had a good year, he could always go somewhere for more money, or have a opportunity to return to the Yanks. I’m done though..not gonna argue because it really doesn’t matter nor make sense to.
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