1:54 am February 5, 2010, by David O'Brien
February 7th, 201010:47 am
What Lew? You’re not a fan of LeWitt or Duchamp? You don’t like the upside down urinal?
February 7th, 201010:52 am
Wide Right-All three of thos e players will be early in their arbitration years and what they might make signed long term will likely be about what they would get at that point in their arb, so I can’t see that it would help the Braves all that much with their salary scale.
I get the feeling (just my own-not necessarily from anything I’ve heard), that McLouth/Melky might well be gone after this year (if not sooner), Kawakami will be coming off of his contract after 2011 and the younger pitchers (Minor, in particular) will be all that much closer to being ready at a much cheaper price. Heyward should definitely be ready. That would free up some cash.
I also believe that with the pitching we have signed longer term – Hanson, Hudson – and the arms we have stockpiled, Teheran, Vizcaino and DelGado, that we won’t make much attempt to go long term with Jair. Also not so sure they’ll go long term with Prado, either. Maybe Yunel, though.
February 7th, 201010:55 am
tampabrave – Keep listening. It’s like Jazz.
It definitely took me a few listens to Kid A to really get into it. I suspect that if you like OK Computer, you would eventually like Kid A once you become accustomed to it.
February 7th, 201010:56 am
Moe-I’ve seen the original Duchamps “The Brides Stripped Bare By The Bachelors, Even” at the Philadelphia Art Museum. No, wasn’t impressed. I WAS impressed with Rubens’ “Prometheus Bound” painting and their quite comprehensive collection of Surrealist paintings. Was also quite impressed with the temporary exhibit they had up of Sir Edwin Landseer’s majestic wildlife paintings.
Duchamps? Not so much. Reassembled junk. Same with Picasso’s famous bicycle seat and handlebars making a cow’s skull. Wow. So creative. Now Picasso’s Surrealism or Blue Period? Amazing stuff.
February 7th, 201010:58 am
We were talking about this last night – Kid A and Amnesiac were recorded in the same studio session . . . if they had released one slightly longer cd – in stead of two – it would have been incredible.
Same thing with the White Album and Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness.
February 7th, 201011:02 am
Finally saw The Hurt Locker last night. What an amazing movie. Probably my favorite new movie of the last few years. Thanks to Dave and everyone on this blog who recommended it. I’m not sure it would have ended up on my radar otherwise.
I really hope Bigelow wins the best director academy award over Cameron. I do appreciate what he created with Avatar, but in terms of directing, I think Bigelow deserves it.
February 7th, 201011:05 am
“that we [Braves' management] won’t make much attempt to go long term with Jair.”
You’re breaking my heart! I envison a rotation anchored by Hanson and Jurrjens for a a long while. Granted, if Jurrjens continues pitch like an ace the bidding for his services will drive up his price greatly. And Boras is his agent, so he’ll take Jurrjens to the open market and require the Braves to compete for his services.
But I think it would be worth a serious run at retaining Jurrjens. As high as I am on the Braves’ blue chip minor league pitching talent, there are no guarentees that any of them will pitch up to Jurrjens’ level.
If Wren’s smart, I think he needs to keep Hanson and Jurrjens longer term. But we’ve got a way to go before crossing those bridges.
Gil In Mechanicsville
February 7th, 201011:10 am
Yo Richbrave, all this snow makes me feel pretty smug about buying a tractor with a front end loader… U of R is looking pretty stout this year. Some quality wins so far this season. I feel fairly confident they will get invited to the NCAAs this year.
I don’t think we got as much snow on this side of town as you did. A lot more rain but that said, ice is hiding underneath now.
Now baseball, There were several players available who I would think to be a better fit for the Braves than Dye. His skills have deteriorated pretty noticeably in the past few years. Likely his bat is slowing down. I would rather the Braves parlay some of their young pitching talent into some young hitting talent. You do have to give up the farm, just be smart. It does not have to be a one sided trade either. Quality for quality is fine by me…
February 7th, 201011:12 am
JeffR-May not even be a matter of “Being Smart”. It may all revolve around salary concerns.
First of all-do you seriously believe that Boras will even consider buying out arb and FA years if Jurrjens puts up one or two more years like his first two? Will The Braves have the money to sign him? Will they want to if Teheran, Vizcaino, DelGado and Minor (maybe already in the rotation) are ML ready? I’m not seeing it happen that way.
February 7th, 201011:30 am
One thing I wish sportscasters would stop saying is “Are you kidding me?!”
the other thing I wish they’d stop is the use of “And, oh, by the way.” So many of these ESPN guys can’t go 5 words without saying, “And, oh, by the way.” Gottlieb and Mortenson, both of whom I really like, are by far the worst offenders of the insane overuse of the “And, oh, by the way” transition. They often use it even when they’re not making a transition. It seems like “And, oh, by the way” is their version of saying “um, um, um” or “uh, uh, uh”
February 7th, 201011:32 am
“…if they had released one slightly longer cd – in stead of two – it would have been incredible.
Same thing with …. Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness.” – bschro
Absolutely agree with you on the Smashing Pumpkins offering. It would have made one pretty amazing album if they had pared it down a bit. I still like listening to the double every once in a while though.
The great thing is, every time I miss the sound of the old Pumpkins, I can just put in some Silversun Pickups. They put on a great live show as well for their relatively young body of work.
February 7th, 201011:35 am
the other thing I wish they’d stop is the use of “And, oh, by the way.”
That’s a pet peeve of mine too…not necessarily just with sports casters, but in general when someone says “by the way” and it’s not by the way of anything.
“…and then my dog had to be put to sleep. Oh by the way, your dentist’s appointment is moved to the sixth.”
Eric In Albany N.Y.
February 7th, 201011:45 am
February 7th, 201011:50 am
I just can’t picture Jordan Schafer 30 pounds skinnier. He already looked 12 jeffrey d
That’s not true! He looks at least 16 and you know it!
February 7th, 201011:55 am
What is it with people going back and quoting me on things I said awhile ago at the 11 AM hour?
February 7th, 201011:58 am
Hey, I wasn’t on here when you said it. Somebody’s got to keep you in check!
February 7th, 201012:02 pm
Although I will concede that Jordan look like a 12-year old
does not….DOES not look like a 12-year old
February 7th, 201012:03 pm
Braveheart, you and Jeffrey D should be prepared to get blasted. In case you haven’t noticed, David has used the “…and oh, by the way…” transition in just about every blog/column he’s ever posted here.
Lew, what’s so great about Picasso’s blue period? I make a perfect blue period every time I hyperlink.
Unless a human being buys the Braves in the next couple of years; JJ’s gone the second he’s free. If Wren is really smart, which he is, and the youngsters are coming along well, he’ll trade JJ at his highest point knowing we have zero chance to re-sign him. It’s a crying shame, but we must get used to it. And three or four years of JJ at his peak, plus the boatload of stuff we could get for him, minus what we originally gave for him would make Frank look that much smarter.
February 7th, 201012:04 pm
Good. See that wasn’t so hard was it?
February 7th, 201012:05 pm
Roman Gal-I’m finishing up a Schafer drawing right now.
Grinch-Dude, if your Bue Period can make you as much cash as Picasso’s made him-all for it. You can take ME out to dinner in Orlando.
February 7th, 201012:07 pm
Agreed Grinch. Never know how things will pan out, but given the pitching depth in the organization, JJ’s agent, and the apparent financial constraints placed on Wren by Liberty, I expect JJ to be traded for a small fortune when the time is right.
February 7th, 201012:11 pm
I’m finishing up a Schafer drawing right now. Lew
Awesome! I can’t wait to see it when you put it on your website. You didn’t give him Dumbo ears though, did you?
If I made THAT much money, I can think of cuter people to take out to dinner. Of course, I’d probably have several at once so you’d be welcome to come along and help reap the fruits of my glory. I’d probably be the only white guy there dressed like Superfly.
February 7th, 201012:13 pm
Well Gil & Richbrave…how goes it. I would say about knee deep! Heading to Colorado to ski…gotta leave this mess behind. 31″ since December snow, well it just ain’t fittin, ain’t fittin. Gonna hang with one of the Colorado Rockies coaches (related)before going to Florida. Always interesting conversation. Got to start scouting some local talent for wood bat leagues this spring but most rosters are filled by college coaches plugging their guys here and there. March will be here soon. Keep shoveling my man…Vancouver is jealous.
Rock on….promise to misspell Shaefer and McClouth almost on every post. Frankly don’t care either. Neither will be here in a couple years anyway IMO.
February 7th, 201012:17 pm
Salamander, also expect everyone here to go “Oh, my God; how can Wren be so STUPID? 20 mil per year for 10 years is a bargain; that’s what Hudson’s insurance paid the Braves so we know he can afford it!”
Roman Gal, the Dumbo ears might be an advantage. The actual ability to fly would be a good skill in the outfield.
Neither will be here in a couple years anyway IMO.
Keep dreamin’ bucko…
February 7th, 201012:21 pm
The actual ability to fly would be a good skill in the outfield.
That’s what I keep telling them. But you know how when rich people would have their portraits painted they would always ask the artist to make them look…different than they acually do, well it’s sort of like that.
Schaefer drawing now that is funny…..Alfred E. Newman just popped into my head.
February 7th, 201012:24 pm
There’s an old Nintendo game, Dusty Diamond’s Baseball, where a few of the kids you picked for your team could fly and catch HRs, etc.
February 7th, 201012:26 pm
I’m finishing up a Schafer drawing right now
Don’t forget the ears. Hey Lew, can you give a link to your website? I’m interested to see some of your work (I know RHR has linked to some of it before…that’s some good stuff)
Roman Gal – I’m actually a big fan of Schafer. I said earlier that I’m very excited about an outfield that features him and Heyward (but you just choose to quote me on the ribbing I see )
February 7th, 201012:27 pm
Oops… Googled it after I posted. The actual name of the game is Dusty Diamond’s All-Star Softball.
February 7th, 201012:28 pm
I spy Mixxo.
February 7th, 201012:30 pm
Like I said, someone has to keep y’all in check or the blog will turn into a dumbo-palooza…and no one wants that!
February 7th, 201012:32 pm
someone has to keep y’all in check or the blog will turn into a dumbo-palooza…and no one wants that!
No, you and Jordan don’t want that. The rest of us think it’s hilarious.
February 7th, 201012:35 pm
Braveheart, you and Jeffrey D should be prepared to get blasted. In case you haven’t noticed, David has used the “…and oh, by the way…” transition in just about every blog/column he’s ever posted here.
Does he? Been reading the guy for years, and never noticed that he does, which means he probably uses it minimally or appropriately. What annoys me is when I hear Gottlieb and Mortenson say “and, oh, by the way” at least three times within 2 minutes
February 7th, 201012:38 pm
The rest of us think it’s hilarious.
Is that right? Well, we’ll see who’s laughing when your kids tell you that they want to have big ears like Schafer so they can be as amazing as him…
February 7th, 201012:39 pm
Oh and by the way, did anyone see Patti Smith on the Tavis Smiley Show?
February 7th, 201012:43 pm
And oh, by the way, the only person I’ve seen interviewed and still liked afterwards is Bob Dylan. Most people spend so much time trying to avoid definition that they “become obvious despite themselves”. And oh, by the way, I think Patti is a poet.
February 7th, 201012:45 pm
Roman Gal-To pull out a trite cliche, I paint what I see. Depends how much ear he shows from under his batting helmet.
February 7th, 201012:46 pm
Roman Gal-I DO have a great portrait shot of Schafer in Braves’ cap with plenty of ear showing-if you’re interested?
February 7th, 201012:50 pm
thickfreakness–I did not see her on Tavis Smiley but did hear part of a Terry Gross interview with her a couple of weeks ago. I really like her music but not sure that I am terribly interested in her early life.
February 7th, 201012:53 pm
Funny because she talked about “Radio Baghdad” as an impromptu recording. Id played the song several days before for my son. He was talking about the Persians inventing Algebra and the number 0. And oh, by the way, I doubt anyone cares, just want to hear myself type.
February 7th, 201012:55 pm
What is it that you teach?
February 7th, 201012:57 pm
Lew, they fit under his helmet? Must be custom.
BH, yeah, he doesn’t overdo it but it’s a regular staple. Almost like: Now, football…
I say 31-27 Colts.
February 7th, 201012:59 pm
I know a lot of teachers. Friend of mine was a newspaper man then went back to school for PhD. Professor of American History now, but incredible mind in World History as well.
February 7th, 20101:01 pm
I think Tavis is the most accomplished interviewer now. Unlike Rose, he allows the quest to anwser the question.
February 7th, 20101:02 pm
I worked for several years before I went back for my Ph.D. I think it helps keep things in perspective. When I look at my colleagues who have never been out of school, I realize that they have a very limited view of the world.
February 7th, 20101:03 pm
I agree with you on Tavis. So many interviewers know the answer they want and supply it if the guest does not seem to be doing so. It is an art to let an interview organically develop.
February 7th, 20101:06 pm
Like DOB’s props for the Javy interview. Made him comfortable and Javy’s answers were natural. Used to love Rose, then he started injecting so much of himself into the conversation.
February 7th, 20101:08 pm
What exactly does this encompass? History, culture, and geography?
February 7th, 20101:15 pm
Salamander, more like fast food, video games and porn.
Pittsburg owns the greatest catches/throws in Super Bowl history.
February 7th, 20101:22 pm
“American Studies. What exactly does this encompass? History, culture, and geography?”–Salamander
Honestly, I still have not figured out what it encompasses. I got a job in American Studies, but it is not what my Ph.D. was in. I am a horrible fit for it to be honest. My work is probably closer to the fields that you identify, but I think that most of the field is closer to what The Grinch identifies. I tend to use a good bit of philosophy and social theory in my analyses of social life, but much of American Studies tends to focus on pop culture and identity politics. I will eventually want to find my way into a different discipline.
February 7th, 20101:23 pm
more like fast food, video games and porn
Classes have changes since I was in college
thickfreakness. Exactly. I think getting the interviewee relaxed and able to talk is a much better skill than overpowering them with the persona of the interviewer. I only heard a few minutes of the Javy interview but it sounded quite good.
Really, the only thing funny about the Schafer ears thing is how absurdly exaggerated it is by a couple of regulars here. What is it, that the kid’s got such appeal to the young fans, some here feel better when they can say, “Hey, but look at his ears!”…
The great thing is, every time I miss the sound of the old Pumpkins, I can just put in some Silversun Pickups.
I guess if you want to hear a watered-down version of a great band, you could. Maybe the Silversun Pickups will become great, but to me they had one good album a few years back and a mediocre followup. Band hasn’t recorded more than one song that’s as memorable as about 20 (or more) Smashing Pumpkins tunes.
February 7th, 20101:25 pm
Still sounds intriguing. Young country, culture and a super power to boot. Every day is history I think, You?
February 7th, 20101:28 pm
“Every day is history I think, You?”–thickfreakness
Agreed. I am right now working on an article for a history journal looking at a series of events over the last decade or so.
February 7th, 20101:31 pm
toga party: glad to hear how much you enjoyed The Hurt Locker. Damn movie is so edge-of-your-seat tense, I left the theater sort of numb. In a good way. Really a remarkable movie.
Speaking of Kathryn Bigelow, the director, she’s 58 and looks like she should be in front of the camera instead of behind it. Gorgeous. If you haven’t seen her on any of the awards shows or whatever: http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/lc/the_hurt_locker_060609/kathryn_bigelow_2445917.jpg
February 7th, 20101:32 pm
Just put in Smashing Pumpkins after reading DOB’s post. Haven’t listened to them in a bit. Tried to play Gish but couldn’t find where it is stashed, opted for Siamese Dream. Really nice album.
Got a hold of Grinderman yesterday. Sounds like 3 of the Seeds and Cave decided to rip it up.
February 7th, 20101:33 pm
Dude, long time no post. Want to go up to see the BRAVES again in section 20…whatever it was? Let me know. Let’s hit Dave and Buster’s first, then catch a FLYING SQUIRREL in April. Good to see you posting again, you old lurker you. PRADO came through, and BLANCO fizzled just like we both thought several years ago.
Agreed, the only Pumpkins album I own – terriffic record.
Rock on… Have fun dude, I have my own personal ski jump now., it’s called a wheelchair ramp… You can’t get much hang time or distance but it a pretty wild ride for an old fat guy….
February 7th, 20101:35 pm
Deal Richbrave, this time it will be my treat…
Plenty of ear? That seems counter-intuitive. Oh heck, what am I saying…I love his ears!
February 7th, 20101:38 pm
…more like fast food, video games and porn. The Grinch
February 7th, 20101:39 pm
February 7th, 2010
richbrave-It’s pretty amazing that y’all have had about ten times more snow this year than we’ve had in Central Vermont (Burlington, further NW had a 30″ fall where we got 6 inches). Wonder what the odds on THAT would have been last fall?
Do you need to come visit this winter instead of waiting until the weather gets “better”?
I may not get out of the driveway until then!!!! My cuz in ATLANTIC CITY called. She was due for 20+ inches. Got to call and see if she survived.
February 7th, 20101:40 pm
I will eventually want to find my way into a different discipline.
I know how you feel. I’m currently a PhD student in a field somewhat related to my real interests, but its not really doing it for me. Looking to switch programs this upcoming fall.
February 7th, 20101:43 pm
Gotta ask you man. Love Tim and Let It Be. Started back with All Shook Down and Pleased To Meet Me. IMO, there just as good as the aforementioned.
February 7th, 20101:44 pm
Baseball is a game about “what have you done for me lately” sure Chipper has had an awesome career but anyway you slice it his 2nd half was terrible. — Jay212033
And it was what he’d done for them lately, in the previous year or three, that convinced the Braves to give Chipper a three-year, $42 extension a year ago, an extension that kicks in this season and is competely guaranteed, like most other such baseball contracts.
So unless you’re advocating sitting Chipper and his $14 million-a-year salary on the bench, not quite sure what you’re getting at with the Chipper-was-as-bad-as-Dye comments. The Braves owe Chipper $42 million and have a decade-and-a-half connection with him, a player who’s spent his entire career with Atlanta and is going to the Hall of Fame when he’s done. They do not owe Dye anything. What, your best justification for signing a player whose defense is as bad as Dye’s is that you think Chipper’s was just as bad last year?
So you’d like them both on the field at once, then? In your opinion that’d be a good thing?
Cool. We’ll plan it out before a FS’s game O.K.? I’m sure plenty of seats will be available in D.C…..although I think the NATS will be slightly improved. They ain’t gonna’ sell out by any means. We’ve got to see HANSON in action this time. KK was last years fare.
February 7th, 20101:46 pm
And I do dig Eventually and Sugarcaine Gratification. Maybe I’m just gay for Paul.
February 7th, 20101:49 pm
Was in the area last year, unfortunately it was Nats v. Reds. Went to the game and enjoyed ML Baseball in a nice stadium.
February 7th, 20101:51 pm
Salamander–Definitely change fields while still a student. It is much more difficult to do after you are on faculty somewhere. I am starting to publish in the direction that I want to go but will take a bit.
February 7th, 20101:55 pm
Yeah, I’ve never thought much of the Silversun Pickups, but then again, I’ve never thought too highly of the Smashing Pumpkins, so I’m probably not the best judge of this particular niche of shoegaze.
February 7th, 20101:57 pm
Moe – yeah, its my plan. I’ve got my fingers crossed that I’m accepted into one of two programs I’ve applied to this time around. I’ve made a good match with faculty at both schools, and I re-took the GRE to be more competitive. I’m hoping to hear good news sometime soon.
February 7th, 20102:00 pm
thickfreakness: Grinderman is great stuff. Fun, rockin’ Cave. (Irrelevant aside: you don’t find many times where you look at your Ipod and the song, group and album name are all the same. Grinderman, Grinderman, Grinderman.)
So what was the question (you said, “I gotta ask.”) You asking me if those Replacements albums are as good as Grinderman? If so, answer is, of course. Better. Dude, the Replacements are one of the greatest rock ‘n’ roll bands to ever stumble and fall … err, to ever form.
I’d put the Mats’ Tim and Let It Be in any all-time top albums list of mine. Pleased to Meet Me was also terrific, and Don’t Tell A Soul and All Shook Down had some great cuts, too, but weren’t nearly as good overall as those other three albums.
I think most a lot of Westerberg’s solo stuff is better than those latter two Replacements albums. His solo stuff’s a bit inconsistent, but some of it’s terrific. He’s one of the elite songwriters of my generation.
February 7th, 20102:05 pm
The most overused sports broadcaster phrase?
Un. Be. Lievable.
February 7th, 20102:08 pm
Salamander–You’ve done the most important part of getting into grad school–matching up with faculty. If someone wants to work with you,GRE scores or grades can be overlooked. The biggest step is finding someone who wants to work with you on your project. Good luck.
February 7th, 20102:09 pm
Since we are both at the beginnings of the left of the dail age, I see we are of the same mind on the Replacements. Liked them so much, I saw them 5 times (some shows better than others). Didn’t mention 14 Songs, point being, he (Westerberg) never made music I couldn’t appreciate.
February 7th, 20102:10 pm
Most clueless sports personality…
No one cares about your inside jokes between you and the clones!…
You dont have to repeat your jokes slower a 2nd and 3rd time… It was not funny the first time you said it!
And for the love of god! No one thinks your callers are live. you dont have to say hello to a recording. we know they are Voice Mails!
“And A Baba Booie To You All!”
I love how you come in on the back end of a conversation and pick out what has been said. I cleardly stated from the start that I WAS NOT promoting the signing of Dye I was stating that everyone that criticizes someone for saying that the Braves should sign Dye. True indeed Dye had a terrible 2nd half of the season but to say he’s done like most people on this blog are saying is what bothers me but yet everyone here thinks Chipper will bounce back.
February 7th, 20102:24 pm
I also don’t understand comments on Schafer’s auditory organs. I saw him last year in spring training and the only thing I think is how how strong the Braves outfield is about to be, offensively and defensively, with Heyward, Schafer, and whoever. Can’t be soon enough for me but whenever it is I look forward to six year of goodness, maybe more.
February 7th, 20102:26 pm
Even more annoying to me is when they combine “And, oh, by the way” with “this just in.” They do that all the time too on ESPN. They’ll say something like “Peyton Manning had a great second half in leading his team to the Super Bowl. And, oh, by the way, this just in, I think it’s safe to say Peyton Manning is a great quarterback.”
Gil in Mechanicsville
February 7th, 20102:27 pm
Great Richbrave, will contact you about setting up a time and date when we get closer to the start of the season.
February 7th, 20102:30 pm
Jay, then I read it wrong. Why defend Dye by comparing him to a guy who’s under (big) contract for three more years, then? Confusing for someone perusing as many comments as possible in a relatively short time frame. And yes, I generally do scroll from the back (current) to older comments when I haven’t been on in a few hours or more.
And oh, by the way, this just in, Schafer is the real deal.
February 7th, 20102:34 pm
Maryland up 32-16 on UNC. Amazing thing is that this doesn’t even sound shocking anymore.
February 7th, 20102:36 pm
Suggestion guys… Just don’t watch ESPN… No viewers will mean new talking heads will be needed. Really, do any of those guys really tell you anything you don’t already know or can’t find out from other outlets?
February 7th, 20102:37 pm
Matt Doherty is coaching at Carolina again?
February 7th, 20102:38 pm
Who’d have thunk it.. UNC has become a mid-major… Didn’t they get beat by the College of Charston this year?
February 7th, 20102:40 pm
… but a 10-0 UNC run tightens things up in a hurry…
February 7th, 20102:43 pm
Man, when I was a kid I wanted to be Phil Ford then Mike O’Koren. Loved that team, then Butch Lee broke my heart.
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
I swear, ole Tar Heels have been taking it on the chin here lately…..awww poor ole Roy…..NOT
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