We could literally play six degrees of Kevin Bacon right now. One of my favorite Kyra Sedgwick movies is Singles. Great club scenes with Soundgarden and the fabulous acting debut of Eddie Vedder.
Great movie about relationships set in the early 90’s grunge Seattle. Matt Dillon steals the show…. “This negativity just makes me stronger, we will not retreat, this band is unstoppable! Tonight? We rock Portland!!” Great line. Citizen Dick. Makes me laugh just thinking about it.
A life cut very short from drugs who was a fine actor was River Phoenix. Love Stand By Me and Dogfight. My own Private Idaho was a good film and he was very good in that too. Seemed like a very odd kid, but a natural actor who would probably be one of the best had he not gotten into the drugs that eventually took his life. His little brother Jauquin is a very good actor himself.
haggard 1, Sneakers is a great show. That scene at the end when he asks for the girls phone number is priceless humor. Also just talked about Ackroyd’s line when giving Redford’s characher the wire… “This is the same unit that NASA used when they faked the moon landing.”
N8, there were several good set pieces in True Romance especially that one. also her fight with Gandolfini and the final shootout. Man I thought she was hot when she was younger. also in TROUBLE BOUND with Mike Madsen and in a noir film with Don Johnson, Ellen DeGeneres called GOODBYE LOVER.she ain’t so hot anymore in her TV show MEDIUM.
uga, my wife loves The Goonies. I never cared for that show. Though I did like The Lost Boys. Which had BOTH of the Corys in it. Another fine Sutherland performance.
nolie, I haven’t watched it in years. I might like it now. But for whatever reason, it just never grabbed me. Didn’t it have the “Throw Mama From the Train” lady in it?
Oh The Goonies…. Who doesn’t or didn’t love that movie? Always thought that redhead was the most unatractive girl. The blonde, Martha Plimpton, actually is a lot prettier. At least with her hair longer.
uga, Gertz was VERY hot in that movie. She’s still hot when I see that show. She was also in Crossroads with Ralph Machio. Horrible show, but as a guitar player I’m obligated to own it. LOL
AtTheMike
Yes, quite a loss. And as you look back at Stand By Me, one of the last scenes is eerie as Phoenix simply dissolves while walking across the street.
nolie. No doubt Robert Johnson rules. But believe me. I just watched it less than a month ago. It’s pretty weak. The old man is great. Ralhp isn’t even that bad. But most of the other actors are just bad. Looks like they through that script together in about a week.
Don’t mistake me saying it’s horrible for me not liking it. I’m just guessing it wasn’t up for any Oscars.
If I’m not mistaking, Ry Cooder did most of the score for that movie. Also, the scen at the end with Steve Vai as Jack Butler is classic. But in general, it’s just not a good movie, imo.
Haggard- there was a show about Phoenix’s life and they swear on the set of his last film in his final scene ever that the camera was accidentally left on and it captured Phoenix staring at the ground. He then looked towards the camera and walked towards it.
This was some six hours before he collapsed and died outside a club. The crew watched the film a few days after he died I believe. Kinda creepy.
Yeah Ry is da man, can beat ol’ whatshisface every day of the week. There was a young black girl at the end of the movie dancing with Joe Morton. Hot and could really dance
Vinny Gambini: What about these pants I got on? You think they’re okay?
Mona Lisa Vito: Imagine you’re a deer. You’re prancing along. You get thirsty. You spot a little brook. You put your little deer lips down to the cool, clear water – BAM. A f..kin’ bullet rips off part of your head. Your brains are lying on the ground in little bloody pieces. Now I ask ya, would you give a f..k what kind of pants the son-of-a-biatch who shot you was wearing?
Well, it’s been a blast but I’m more than ready to hit sack. Again, appologize for being a jerk to any of you earlier. Us Braves need to stick together because we got some fighten to do this season. Good night fans!
In the August 2008 edition of the American Bar Association Journal, My Cousin Vinny was rated #3 in their cover story listing of “The 25 Greatest Legal Movies”, after To Kill a Mockingbird and 12 Angry Men.
If there was only one person you could watch in the Australian Open this year…it would have to be Del Potro….had a fantastic 5-set match against USA’s James Blake….now and even better one against Cilic. Fantastic tennis.
Del Potro goes down….but was involved in two of the most entertaining matches….between 9 and 10 hours of tennis play between his two matches against Blake and Cilic.
Can you guys believe Dye and Nady are both still available? I bet we coulda waited it out and signed one of them for probably one year 2-3mil, and traded JV for a load of prospects.
“guitar wise n8, are you a fan of dire straits?”uga
I’m not a huge Dire Straits fan. I am however, a HUGE Mark Knopfler enthusiast. It’s two fold for me. Love his guitar playing and not a huge fan of his singing. So it is occasionally necessary for me to fight through his singing to get to that brilliant guitar work.
But don’t take my word for it. I didn’t like The Goonies. LOL
Mark in FL. We DID trade JV for some good prospects. Melky was the 3rd most important player in that trade. I suspect if another team was willing to give up more and better prospects, Wren would have passed on Melky and taken that offer.
It appears that Ty Wigginton is available from the Orioles now that they’ve signed Tejada and Garret Atkins.
Talk about a guy that could play anywhere. I believe Wiggy played 6 positions last year, including some shortstop. He would be a great insurance policy to plug in fulltime should Chipper go down for a few weeks at a time.
I THINK he’ll make $3.5 million in the last year of his contract.
What do y’all think? Would Wigginton fit well here?
Reports are that the Yanks have offered Damon $2 mill for one year. Man, in Bobby’s last year, we must have $3 mill to offer Damon for this year. I like DOB’s idea of offering him a 2 year deal with a higher 2nd year salary. If they do that, they get him.
Not to mention Wigginton has played more than 122 games once since 04, got on base at a torrid .314 clip and hit all of 11HR along with his massive .700 OPS last year……..
Lew, I can see that reasoning, but you know how Bobby likes to “protect” his rookies. What would your lineup look like in the dream world that we get Damon?
TommyP: Do you ever get to go to Spring Training? I will bet a beverage of choice that if Heyward makes the team out of ST and we get Damon, he bats 8th. If we don’t get Damon and he makes the team, Melky may bat 8th. Obviously, it would have to be next ST when I pay up. I am not saying I think he should bat there, I am just saying that Nate, Prado, Escobar, Chipper, Mac, Glaus, and Damon will NOT bat 8th. Bobby likes to put his rookies in low pressure spots in the beginning. I think there is a high probability that Bobby would bat him 8th to start the season.
TommyP-What it basically omes down to is I would trade Melky to make room for Damon, but would NOT do so for Wigginton, who I believe adds little we don not alreqady have-especially at the $$$$ he would cost.
Sorry, but league change or not, Wigginton does NOT play many games (twice over 122 games since 03-hardly impressive) and is little more than a utility player. We already have enough utility players. One more at his salary will not help us enough to make his acquisition worth while.
Jason-It was one thing not throwing Schaefer into the leadoff spot (where he was supposed to end up) his rookie year. Heyward is a different case altogether. I wouldn’t bat him cleanup or fifith his first season, but it is meaning less to put him at eighth to “save” him. Sixth should be far enough down the order from where he is projected to hit to reduce pressure on him-the ONLY reason BC batted Scaefer 8th..
You don’t want a young kid to bat 8th because all they’re going to see is junk batting in front of the pitcher. 6th or 7th for Heyward would work real well with him.
And I don’t even see the point in the debate when you’re factoring in a guy that’s not on the roster (Damon). Right now, Diaz hits 8th.
Lew, agree completely…Melky should be traded to make room for Damon…assuming there is a trade partner of course. What about KC? They seem to like OFs. (:
Jason-I’d go ahead and bat Prado further down in the order-maybe even McLouth-who I believe will prove himself to NOT be all that. I certainly was not impressed with him last year, either offensively OR defensively. Yes, he may turn it around and I hope he does, but if not? He’s toast for the Braves after 2010.
Hypotheticals friend…that’s all. Of course you are correct that the conversation is pretty meaningless since we don’t, and probably won’t, have Damon. But, I find the conversation interesting anyway.
TommyP-Glaus also plays third. Hinske plays first, third and corner outfield spots. Prado plays first, second, third and could fill in at short, Infante at second short, third and outfield, including center. Melky plays all outfield positions,. Diaz plays both corners, could conceivably fill in at first and is our #3 catcher. No more bench types. Please.
Yes, I know Heyward has a more disciplined approach than Frency, etc, but Jeff batted in the following spot in the lineup before settling pretty much in the 6 hole…
I was under the impression that Glaus’ shoulder is no longer a fit for 3rd. Just an assumption.
When Chipper goes down, I don’t want Prado at a corner spot or Infante at a corner spot. That was my point. Let Infante be your middle infield backup and nothing more.
It all comes down to what I figured Hinske was going to be used for…pinch hitter. If he’s not, WHO is our pinch hitter this year?
TommyP, I agree…lots of risks. I still believe this team is better than the team we started the season with last year, but it is not better than the team we ended the season with.
but it is not better than the team we ended the season with.
I don’t know about that. I guess it depends on how you look at Glaus. If you see him rebounding, then he’s at least equal to and probably greater than LaRoche. And even if Melky is the starting left fielder, he’s still way better than Loaf. The rest of the lineup is the same.
The rotation lost Vazquez but you can’t tell me that we don’t have one of, if not the best rotation 1-5 in the majors. I guess Wagner and Saito are question marks too, but only because of their age. Remember, they proved they could still pitch just a few months ago.
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Heath
January 24th, 2010
2:15 am
nolie -
Captain Correli’s was more for DOB’s amusement (Penelope)
haggard 1
January 24th, 2010
2:15 am
AtTheMike– Watch it with the phone off the hook and other diversions to a minimum. It’s a “quiet” flick. I’ll be interested to know what you think.
N8
January 24th, 2010
2:16 am
We could literally play six degrees of Kevin Bacon right now. One of my favorite Kyra Sedgwick movies is Singles. Great club scenes with Soundgarden and the fabulous acting debut of Eddie Vedder.
Great movie about relationships set in the early 90’s grunge Seattle. Matt Dillon steals the show…. “This negativity just makes me stronger, we will not retreat, this band is unstoppable! Tonight? We rock Portland!!” Great line. Citizen Dick. Makes me laugh just thinking about it.
uga-brave
January 24th, 2010
2:17 am
loved matchstick man.
AtTheMike
January 24th, 2010
2:18 am
A life cut very short from drugs who was a fine actor was River Phoenix. Love Stand By Me and Dogfight. My own Private Idaho was a good film and he was very good in that too. Seemed like a very odd kid, but a natural actor who would probably be one of the best had he not gotten into the drugs that eventually took his life. His little brother Jauquin is a very good actor himself.
haggard 1
January 24th, 2010
2:18 am
Dennis Hopper In Paris Trout Bad man!
uga-brave
January 24th, 2010
2:19 am
nick cage was also in fast times at ridgemont high.
so was anthony edwards.
N8
January 24th, 2010
2:20 am
Stand By Me is a classic. Back when Corey Feldman’s career actually looked promising. LOL
haggard 1
January 24th, 2010
2:20 am
AtTheMike–Have you seen River Phoenix in Sneakers?
N8
January 24th, 2010
2:21 am
Favorite line from fast times?
Judge Reinhold’s Brad character upon getting fired…. “I hope you had a helluva piss Arnold!”
N8
January 24th, 2010
2:22 am
haggard 1, Sneakers is a great show. That scene at the end when he asks for the girls phone number is priceless humor. Also just talked about Ackroyd’s line when giving Redford’s characher the wire… “This is the same unit that NASA used when they faked the moon landing.”
Love that show.
uga-brave
January 24th, 2010
2:23 am
n8, then again he was a goonie.
nolie
January 24th, 2010
2:25 am
N8, there were several good set pieces in True Romance especially that one. also her fight with Gandolfini and the final shootout. Man I thought she was hot when she was younger. also in TROUBLE BOUND with Mike Madsen and in a noir film with Don Johnson, Ellen DeGeneres called GOODBYE LOVER.she ain’t so hot anymore in her TV show MEDIUM.
N8
January 24th, 2010
2:25 am
uga, my wife loves The Goonies. I never cared for that show. Though I did like The Lost Boys. Which had BOTH of the Corys in it. Another fine Sutherland performance.
Heath
January 24th, 2010
2:26 am
Getting ready to watch the Roddick match…
AtTheMike
January 24th, 2010
2:26 am
Haggard- yes, not a very good movie, imo. Can’t remember much of Phoenix in that except him being a computer geek.
I think Feldman actually tried to help Phoenix, but I think he was too far gone at that point with the drugs.
Pretty sad….
N8
January 24th, 2010
2:27 am
you’re right nolie. True Romance is just a great movie overall. Even though Balki was in it. LOL!
uga-brave
January 24th, 2010
2:27 am
n8, lost boys a good movie. jamie gertz.
nolie
January 24th, 2010
2:27 am
Loved SNEAKERS. great cast
Heath
January 24th, 2010
2:28 am
Anthony Edwards has been and always will be ‘Goose’ for me.
nolie
January 24th, 2010
2:28 am
N8 you are one of the few people I ever heard say they didn’t like Goonies.
Heath
January 24th, 2010
2:29 am
nolie -
Goonies was funny stuff.
uga-brave
January 24th, 2010
2:30 am
less than zero. jamie gertz?
Heath
January 24th, 2010
2:30 am
Babe….. Ruth! Babe….Ruth! Babe…..Ruth!
N8
January 24th, 2010
2:30 am
Agree Heath. Speaking of former cast members of E.R., Eric La Salle will forever be known as the “soul glow” king!
N8
January 24th, 2010
2:32 am
nolie, I haven’t watched it in years. I might like it now. But for whatever reason, it just never grabbed me. Didn’t it have the “Throw Mama From the Train” lady in it?
OWEN!!!!!
AtTheMike
January 24th, 2010
2:32 am
Oh The Goonies…. Who doesn’t or didn’t love that movie? Always thought that redhead was the most unatractive girl. The blonde, Martha Plimpton, actually is a lot prettier. At least with her hair longer.
nolie
January 24th, 2010
2:32 am
Meryl buffed up pretty good for RIVER WILD. Might be as good as she ever looked.
Heath
January 24th, 2010
2:33 am
I never really liked ER….though it was much better than its rival at the time… Chicago or something wasn’t it?
N8
January 24th, 2010
2:34 am
uga, Gertz was VERY hot in that movie. She’s still hot when I see that show. She was also in Crossroads with Ralph Machio. Horrible show, but as a guitar player I’m obligated to own it. LOL
haggard 1
January 24th, 2010
2:34 am
AtTheMike
Yes, quite a loss. And as you look back at Stand By Me, one of the last scenes is eerie as Phoenix simply dissolves while walking across the street.
N8
January 24th, 2010
2:35 am
Wasn’t the guy from Taladega Nights and Stepbrothers Bacon’s sidekick in River Wild? I can’t think of his name?
nolie
January 24th, 2010
2:36 am
Jami Gertz…Sibling Rivalry and Crossroads.
N8
January 24th, 2010
2:37 am
I just realized looking at the IMDB site that Gertz was in Twister. Forgot about that. Of course, that’s because it’s forgetable movie.
nolie
January 24th, 2010
2:38 am
. Horrible show, but as a guitar player I’m obligated to own it. LOL N8
horrible? you’re nuts.great great movie. Robert Johnson rules!!
nolie
January 24th, 2010
2:39 am
that’s because it’s forgetable movie. N8
yup it was
Heath
January 24th, 2010
2:39 am
Can I just say… the blog has really been enjoyable recently…. addition by subtraction. Keep on keepin’ on my blog friends.
uga-brave
January 24th, 2010
2:40 am
anyone else looking foward to pacific on hbo?
looks like a pretty darn good mini series.
loved generation kill.
N8
January 24th, 2010
2:41 am
nolie. No doubt Robert Johnson rules. But believe me. I just watched it less than a month ago. It’s pretty weak. The old man is great. Ralhp isn’t even that bad. But most of the other actors are just bad. Looks like they through that script together in about a week.
Don’t mistake me saying it’s horrible for me not liking it. I’m just guessing it wasn’t up for any Oscars.
If I’m not mistaking, Ry Cooder did most of the score for that movie. Also, the scen at the end with Steve Vai as Jack Butler is classic. But in general, it’s just not a good movie, imo.
AtTheMike
January 24th, 2010
2:42 am
Haggard- there was a show about Phoenix’s life and they swear on the set of his last film in his final scene ever that the camera was accidentally left on and it captured Phoenix staring at the ground. He then looked towards the camera and walked towards it.
This was some six hours before he collapsed and died outside a club. The crew watched the film a few days after he died I believe. Kinda creepy.
nolie
January 24th, 2010
2:43 am
I am Uga. I did not like Generation Kill nearly as much as Band of Brothers. I hope Pacific approaches BOB in quality
uga-brave
January 24th, 2010
2:44 am
n8, are you a base player? or lead guitar?
N8
January 24th, 2010
2:45 am
Wow. My grammar is WAY off tonight (actually has been all week – or is it weak?).
Any “My Cousin Vinny” fans on the blog? I laugh very hard everytime I watch that show. Pesci is fantastic, as is Miss Tomei
uga-brave
January 24th, 2010
2:46 am
nolie, band of brothers was special. not ashamed to say i shead a tear in the last episode.
the greatest generation right?
China Grove
January 24th, 2010
2:46 am
couldn’t agree with you more, Heath.
Tickets for Raptors-Lakers tomorrow. Hoping to see Kobe drop 81. Wow, that’s incredible in this day and age.
N8
January 24th, 2010
2:47 am
I play lead uga.
nolie
January 24th, 2010
2:47 am
Yeah Ry is da man, can beat ol’ whatshisface every day of the week. There was a young black girl at the end of the movie dancing with Joe Morton. Hot and could really dance
N8
January 24th, 2010
2:48 am
Alright. I just got the “You’re posting too quickly. Slow down.” warning for the second time from the blog. Time to go to bed.
Goodnight all.
uga-brave
January 24th, 2010
2:49 am
guitar wise n8, are you a fan of dire straits?
uga-brave
January 24th, 2010
2:50 am
brothers in arms is one of my favorite guitar riffs.
nolie
January 24th, 2010
2:54 am
Loved Marisa in Cousin Vinnie, she was sooo NY.
Vinny Gambini: What about these pants I got on? You think they’re okay?
Mona Lisa Vito: Imagine you’re a deer. You’re prancing along. You get thirsty. You spot a little brook. You put your little deer lips down to the cool, clear water – BAM. A f..kin’ bullet rips off part of your head. Your brains are lying on the ground in little bloody pieces. Now I ask ya, would you give a f..k what kind of pants the son-of-a-biatch who shot you was wearing?
nolie
January 24th, 2010
2:56 am
deee ah
AtTheMike
January 24th, 2010
2:57 am
Well, it’s been a blast but I’m more than ready to hit sack. Again, appologize for being a jerk to any of you earlier. Us Braves need to stick together because we got some fighten to do this season. Good night fans!
nolie
January 24th, 2010
3:01 am
In the August 2008 edition of the American Bar Association Journal, My Cousin Vinny was rated #3 in their cover story listing of “The 25 Greatest Legal Movies”, after To Kill a Mockingbird and 12 Angry Men.
uga-brave
January 24th, 2010
3:04 am
legal movies? loved paul newman in the verdict.
uga-brave
January 24th, 2010
3:05 am
paul newman movies, starts and ends with butch cassidy and sundance.
who are those guys?
nolie
January 24th, 2010
3:08 am
way too many great Newman movies to even start mentioning IMO.
nolie
January 24th, 2010
3:08 am
nite y’all
Apollonasia
January 24th, 2010
3:13 am
Anyone who agrees that Heyward needs to be given the job out of Spring Training should check this out:
http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#/pages/Message-to-Braves-Start-Jason-Heyward-in-2010/269340113688?ref=nf
Join the revolution.
Jurrjens4NLCY
January 24th, 2010
3:36 am
SIGN ADAM KENNEDY!
Heath
January 24th, 2010
3:48 am
If there was only one person you could watch in the Australian Open this year…it would have to be Del Potro….had a fantastic 5-set match against USA’s James Blake….now and even better one against Cilic. Fantastic tennis.
Heath
January 24th, 2010
4:29 am
Del Potro goes down….but was involved in two of the most entertaining matches….between 9 and 10 hours of tennis play between his two matches against Blake and Cilic.
bravemandan
January 24th, 2010
8:23 am
Wake up Braves fans, we’re one day closer to opening day!!!
dap01
January 24th, 2010
8:23 am
Ellen Degenerous, Don Johnson. Dang, I can not wait until the season starts we can talk baseball and the Braves.
The Goonies?????
Marc in FL
January 24th, 2010
8:26 am
Can you guys believe Dye and Nady are both still available? I bet we coulda waited it out and signed one of them for probably one year 2-3mil, and traded JV for a load of prospects.
N8
January 24th, 2010
9:24 am
“guitar wise n8, are you a fan of dire straits?” uga
I’m not a huge Dire Straits fan. I am however, a HUGE Mark Knopfler enthusiast. It’s two fold for me. Love his guitar playing and not a huge fan of his singing. So it is occasionally necessary for me to fight through his singing to get to that brilliant guitar work.
But don’t take my word for it. I didn’t like The Goonies. LOL
N8
January 24th, 2010
9:24 am
Mark in FL. We DID trade JV for some good prospects. Melky was the 3rd most important player in that trade. I suspect if another team was willing to give up more and better prospects, Wren would have passed on Melky and taken that offer.
TommyP
January 24th, 2010
9:27 am
Yeah…the overnight crowd gets pretty out there.
It appears that Ty Wigginton is available from the Orioles now that they’ve signed Tejada and Garret Atkins.
Talk about a guy that could play anywhere. I believe Wiggy played 6 positions last year, including some shortstop. He would be a great insurance policy to plug in fulltime should Chipper go down for a few weeks at a time.
I THINK he’ll make $3.5 million in the last year of his contract.
What do y’all think? Would Wigginton fit well here?
Lew
January 24th, 2010
9:32 am
Wigginton? Yet another utility type player to swap out at four positions? Isn’t that what we already have in spades?
JasonInFL
January 24th, 2010
9:34 am
Reports are that the Yanks have offered Damon $2 mill for one year. Man, in Bobby’s last year, we must have $3 mill to offer Damon for this year. I like DOB’s idea of offering him a 2 year deal with a higher 2nd year salary. If they do that, they get him.
Lew
January 24th, 2010
9:35 am
Not to mention Wigginton has played more than 122 games once since 04, got on base at a torrid .314 clip and hit all of 11HR along with his massive .700 OPS last year……..
JasonInFL
January 24th, 2010
9:35 am
Alchemy Live is some of Knopfler’s best work…
Lew
January 24th, 2010
9:36 am
I agree with Jason-If all the Yankees want to offer is $2 mil, wee HAVE to be able to sign this Dude.
JasonInFL
January 24th, 2010
9:43 am
I know there has been some discussion on what the lineup would like like. Considering I think Nate has more pop, I like:
Damon
Prado
Chipper
Glaus
Mac
Escobar
Nate
Heyward/Diaz
Hudson
JJ
Tommy Gun
Lowe
KK
Wagner
Saito
Moylan
Not bad…
Lew
January 24th, 2010
9:48 am
With Heyward’s power potential, I doubt seriously that, rookie or not, he will not bat eight in the order-more like 6th.
TommyP
January 24th, 2010
9:48 am
Lew: Change of leagues obviously hurt Wigginton. Look at what he did in the NL the two years prior.
And WHEN Chipper goes down for the 2 week DL stint and then longer than that because the injury is still a problem, who takes over 3rd?
Also, Wigginton has been a utility guy the past several seasons. Utility guys don’t exactly play 150 games a year. They fill in all over the place.
Using that logic, Infante must suck ’cause he doesn’t play above 100 games….hardly ever.
What’s the plan WHEN Chipper goes down for weeks at a time? Glaus as well?
JasonInFL
January 24th, 2010
9:54 am
Lew, I can see that reasoning, but you know how Bobby likes to “protect” his rookies. What would your lineup look like in the dream world that we get Damon?
JasonInFL
January 24th, 2010
9:55 am
Hinske will play 3rd if Chipper goes down…
TommyP
January 24th, 2010
9:55 am
JasoninFL: You don’t bat your top prospect #8 in an NL lineup.
JasonInFL
January 24th, 2010
10:00 am
TommyP: Do you ever get to go to Spring Training? I will bet a beverage of choice that if Heyward makes the team out of ST and we get Damon, he bats 8th. If we don’t get Damon and he makes the team, Melky may bat 8th. Obviously, it would have to be next ST when I pay up. I am not saying I think he should bat there, I am just saying that Nate, Prado, Escobar, Chipper, Mac, Glaus, and Damon will NOT bat 8th. Bobby likes to put his rookies in low pressure spots in the beginning. I think there is a high probability that Bobby would bat him 8th to start the season.
Lew
January 24th, 2010
10:01 am
TommyP-What it basically omes down to is I would trade Melky to make room for Damon, but would NOT do so for Wigginton, who I believe adds little we don not alreqady have-especially at the $$$$ he would cost.
Sorry, but league change or not, Wigginton does NOT play many games (twice over 122 games since 03-hardly impressive) and is little more than a utility player. We already have enough utility players. One more at his salary will not help us enough to make his acquisition worth while.
JasonInFL
January 24th, 2010
10:03 am
Lew, you can take the bet as well…I owe you anyway.
Lew
January 24th, 2010
10:03 am
Jason-It was one thing not throwing Schaefer into the leadoff spot (where he was supposed to end up) his rookie year. Heyward is a different case altogether. I wouldn’t bat him cleanup or fifith his first season, but it is meaning less to put him at eighth to “save” him. Sixth should be far enough down the order from where he is projected to hit to reduce pressure on him-the ONLY reason BC batted Scaefer 8th..
TommyP
January 24th, 2010
10:04 am
JasoninFL: Nope…never been to Spring Training.
You don’t want a young kid to bat 8th because all they’re going to see is junk batting in front of the pitcher. 6th or 7th for Heyward would work real well with him.
And I don’t even see the point in the debate when you’re factoring in a guy that’s not on the roster (Damon). Right now, Diaz hits 8th.
JasonInFL
January 24th, 2010
10:04 am
Lew, agree completely…Melky should be traded to make room for Damon…assuming there is a trade partner of course. What about KC? They seem to like OFs. (:
Lew
January 24th, 2010
10:05 am
Jason-I’d go ahead and bat Prado further down in the order-maybe even McLouth-who I believe will prove himself to NOT be all that. I certainly was not impressed with him last year, either offensively OR defensively. Yes, he may turn it around and I hope he does, but if not? He’s toast for the Braves after 2010.
JasonInFL
January 24th, 2010
10:07 am
Hypotheticals friend…that’s all. Of course you are correct that the conversation is pretty meaningless since we don’t, and probably won’t, have Damon. But, I find the conversation interesting anyway.
TommyP
January 24th, 2010
10:08 am
Lew: Let’s just say I’m not that enamored with Hinske.
Honestly, Wren’s offseason would go right along with past offseasons of the Pittsburgh Pirates of Cam Bonifay years.
If you saw this in print, it would be very believable:
Pittsburgh Pirates
Offseason acquisitions: Troy Glaus, Eric Hinske, Saito, Billy Wagner, Melky Cabrera.
I’d take one look at that and say, “Same ‘ole Pirates.”
JasonInFL
January 24th, 2010
10:08 am
Yeah, Prado would be a good option. What about:
Damon
Nate
Chipper
Glaus
Mac
Escobar
Heyward
Prado
Good Lefty/Righty balance as well.
Lew
January 24th, 2010
10:09 am
TommyP-Glaus also plays third. Hinske plays first, third and corner outfield spots. Prado plays first, second, third and could fill in at short, Infante at second short, third and outfield, including center. Melky plays all outfield positions,. Diaz plays both corners, could conceivably fill in at first and is our #3 catcher. No more bench types. Please.
Lew
January 24th, 2010
10:10 am
TommyP-Yes, one might say that if the Pirates had our starting rotation-something they do NOT have and have NOT had in two decades.
JasonInFL
January 24th, 2010
10:12 am
Yes, I know Heyward has a more disciplined approach than Frency, etc, but Jeff batted in the following spot in the lineup before settling pretty much in the 6 hole…
7, 8, 9, 8, 7, 9, 7, 9, 7, 8, 7, 7
TommyP
January 24th, 2010
10:13 am
I was under the impression that Glaus’ shoulder is no longer a fit for 3rd. Just an assumption.
When Chipper goes down, I don’t want Prado at a corner spot or Infante at a corner spot. That was my point. Let Infante be your middle infield backup and nothing more.
It all comes down to what I figured Hinske was going to be used for…pinch hitter. If he’s not, WHO is our pinch hitter this year?
JasonInFL
January 24th, 2010
10:14 am
Hinske will be use primarily as a PH…if no one gets injured.
TommyP
January 24th, 2010
10:16 am
Lew: With or without that starting pitching, Wren just had a Cam Bonifay offseason.
Aged, “past their prime”, injury prone, backup…. Those terms/phrases describe each offseason acquisition by Wren this year.
JasonInFL
January 24th, 2010
10:20 am
TommyP, I agree…lots of risks. I still believe this team is better than the team we started the season with last year, but it is not better than the team we ended the season with.
TommyP
January 24th, 2010
10:23 am
JasoninFL: Agreed on that.
2011 lineup
January 24th, 2010
10:29 am
LF McLouth
2B Prado
3B Jones
RF Heyward
C McCann
SS Escobar
1B Freeman
CF Schafer
SP Lowe
SP Hudson
SP Jurrjens
SP Hanson
SP Kawakami
CL Wagner
RP Moylan
RP Kimbrel
RP Hyde
RP O’Flaherty
RP Medlen
RP Chavez
jeffrey d
January 24th, 2010
10:31 am
but it is not better than the team we ended the season with.
I don’t know about that. I guess it depends on how you look at Glaus. If you see him rebounding, then he’s at least equal to and probably greater than LaRoche. And even if Melky is the starting left fielder, he’s still way better than Loaf. The rest of the lineup is the same.
The rotation lost Vazquez but you can’t tell me that we don’t have one of, if not the best rotation 1-5 in the majors. I guess Wagner and Saito are question marks too, but only because of their age. Remember, they proved they could still pitch just a few months ago.
dogsbrekky
January 24th, 2010
10:33 am
watching “Walk the Line” for the 2nd time, this time in HD on a Vizio… awesome awesome movie …. especially that opening scene in Folsom !