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nolie
January 23rd, 2010
2:04 am
not worth it Uga, just talking silly stuff. you are right about Chipper
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
2:08 am
good mechanics help when you age. Poor mechanics was one of the major undoings of Murph. That long loopy swing slowed down too much when he aged. A short compact one might have kept him productive longer
Haggard 1
January 23rd, 2010
2:10 am
uga-brave Thanks for the thoughts–makes sense
I just wanted to hear an opinion other than “he just got lazy” or “he gained too much weight and didn’t care”. Have always thought there was “some answer” following that steep a drop off, that early in a career.
uga-brave
January 23rd, 2010
2:12 am
polar opposite watch a francouer at bat. no pitch reconition, he is a guess hitter. watch his hands. they drop.
best hitter i ever saw was tony gywnn.
always stayed somewhat inside the ball. never off balance. hands always quiet.
China Grove
January 23rd, 2010
2:13 am
Stopped using steroids? He went from thin to ripped to … umm, Fat Albert?
Erin Go Bragh
January 23rd, 2010
2:13 am
Jay Leno is a despicable goombah.
Love ya Conan.
China Grove
January 23rd, 2010
2:14 am
Gwynn was a great pure hitter, I also loved watching Larry Walker and Todd Helton, thought they were both very technically beautiful swings.
Good ESPN Baseball Today Podcast today. Y’all should check it out.
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
2:14 am
best hitter I ever saw was Ted Williams by a long shot. Stan Musial was special too. Gwynn was good but lacked their power.
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
2:17 am
One guy I always wished I had seen was Jimmy Foxx
Haggard 1
January 23rd, 2010
2:18 am
Larry Walker was a favorite of mine as well. Wish he could have spent a little less time on the DL to insure a better shot at the Hall Of Fame
China Grove
January 23rd, 2010
2:19 am
nolie,
You’ll never know how jealous I am to hear you refer to Ted and Stan the Man. You’re lucky to have seen such gods. My great uncles were Sox and Cardinals fans, respectively. Good memories of the argument over who was better. Good memories.
uga-brave
January 23rd, 2010
2:22 am
nolie, showing your age.
never saw the splinter, or stan the man.
could make a point about boggs he and gywnn were similar. neither had real power.
you are definetly correct about murphy though. zero pure fundamentals, huge loop. when the twitch muscles quit they quit.
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
2:23 am
Larry Walker was a favorite of mine as well. Wish he could have spent a little less time on the DL to insure a better shot at the Hall Of Fame Haggard
Walker HOF? not even close. ever look at his career numbers away from Coors? 70 point BA difference, 140 points S% difference. He was better than any other Coors basher other than maybe Helton, but neither would have put up anywhere near those numbers if they hadn’t played all those years in Coors.
Haggard 1
January 23rd, 2010
2:25 am
nolie–I agree, though Walker did have a good start in Montreal
uga-brave
January 23rd, 2010
2:27 am
not a bonds fan, but watch a couple of his at bats. rarely fooled.
steriods or not he is was a great hitter.
China Grove
January 23rd, 2010
2:30 am
uga-brave,
absolutely. incredible batspeed, absolutely.
What’s everyone’s favourite sports movie? I’m compiling a list and be missing some. Any suggestions on what you like, or what I may have missed?
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
2:30 am
I think Ted was a better hitter, Stan a better all around player. Two of my all time top guys no doubt. Amazing thing about Ted’s stats is that he lost a lot of time to two different wars and still was a legend.
Talked to Ted several times and listened more often in spring training when he was managing the Senators. Could be a real curmudgeon but also very funny when he wanted to be.
uga-brave
January 23rd, 2010
2:31 am
never make the mistake to compare bonds to mcgwire or sosa.
the latter were not in his league. bonds was a pure hitter.
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
2:32 am
Haggard yes he did, I’m not saying that he wasn’t a good player cause be was, just not HOF numbers without Coors.
Haggard 1
January 23rd, 2010
2:33 am
nolie– You’re right.
Haggard 1
January 23rd, 2010
2:34 am
China Grove–Hoosiers, The Natural, Bang The Drum Slowly immediately come to mind
uga-brave
January 23rd, 2010
2:36 am
china grove, loved the original bad news bears. loved breaking away.
eight men out was a great movie. bull durham was good.
but ROCKY has to be in anybodys top ten.
Jurrjens4NLCY
January 23rd, 2010
2:36 am
Then how do you explain the Cubs selling out every game??
The Cubs would sell out even if they were playing a HS team. You don’t go there to watch a baseball game, it’s a totally different situation.
Using “gay” as a derogatory term is pretty bushleague. Unless you meant that we actually have the most gay fans, which I’m not sure of. – China Grove
Again, I think it’s the Cubs, because, well you know…
Haggard 1
January 23rd, 2010
2:37 am
Goodnight all
China Grove
January 23rd, 2010
2:37 am
really love Hoosiers
like The Natural
and need to see Bang The Drum Slowly, apparently.
Anyone know when Season Two of East Bound & Down starts?
Haggard 1
January 23rd, 2010
2:38 am
China Grove–Friday Night Lights isn’t bad.
China Grove
January 23rd, 2010
2:39 am
What’s Breaking Away? I’ve never seen it, intrigued.
Toronto probably has the largest gay fan base, IMO. At least openly gay.
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
2:42 am
Baseball movies -The original Angels in the Outfield and It Happens Every Spring. Long Gone with Billy Peterson, The Natural,first Major League,Bingo Long,Bad News Bears-both were decent,61,Bull Durham,Bang The Drum Slowly,8 Men Out,Field Of Dreams,League Of Their Own,Mr Baseball,Pastime w William Russ, and the three Joe E Brown ones in the 30s Alibi Ike, Fireman Save My Child and Elmer The Great. Those last three wouldn’t probably appeal all that much to younger folks, except Brown uses the goofiest wind up in them. I’ll let others do other sports.
uga-brave
January 23rd, 2010
2:42 am
for love of the game, rudy, hooisiers, vision quest, and the sappiest movie of all time brian’s song.
China Grove
January 23rd, 2010
2:42 am
thanks a lot, gang. sweet response.
uga-brave
January 23rd, 2010
2:43 am
china, you have never seen breaking away? try it you will be pleasntly suprised.
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
2:43 am
lotsa happy folks out there
Jurrjens4NLCY
January 23rd, 2010
2:44 am
Toronto probably has the largest gay fan base, IMO. At least openly gay.
Wrigleyville is just southeast (I think) of Boys Town, which has one of the highest gay population rates in the country.
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
2:46 am
never make the mistake to compare bonds to mcgwire or sosa UGA
I agree completely, Bonds was a great player,too bad his neediness and pride led him wrong
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
2:48 am
Wrigleyville is just southeast (I think) of Boys Town, which has one of the highest gay population rates in the country
Spencer Tracy would be soo sad
Haggard 1
January 23rd, 2010
2:48 am
China Grove–Oh yeah! Breaking Away Movie filmed on and around the campus of Indiana University about four, blue collar town kids who enter the “Little 500″ bicycle race as underdogs.
Cast features Dennis Quaid, Daniel Stern, and Jackie Earl Haley and was filmed about 1979.
Good “coming of age movie” as all are at the end of high school.
Haggard 1
January 23rd, 2010
2:51 am
uga-brave Rocky I—yes!
BravesFanLostInOhio
January 23rd, 2010
2:51 am
How in the world can anybody say with certianty where Schaffer is right now? He hasn’t been healthy in almost a year.
Jurrjens4NLCY
January 23rd, 2010
2:53 am
Spencer Tracy would be soo sad
Wow, you just said Spencer Tracy, you really are old, huh?
uga-brave
January 23rd, 2010
2:54 am
china, check out breaking away. you will enjoy it.
accept the the fact kelly leak, really does not look like mickey mantle no more.
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
2:57 am
you really are old, huh? JJ
I’ve never denied the fact. .Kinda happy to be that old actually, given the alternative.
Tracy played Father Flanagan in 1938, the founder of the original Boy’s Town which specialized in saving troubled younguns from a bad future. No way no how related to the type of Boy’s Town you are referencing in Chitown,
Haggard 1
January 23rd, 2010
2:58 am
Spencer Tracy–Bad Day At Black Rock also with Lee Marvin and Ernest Borgnine
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
3:00 am
Spencer Tracy–Bad Day At Black Rock also with Lee Marvin and Ernest Borgnine Haggard
good flick with a great cast
Jurrjens4NLCY
January 23rd, 2010
3:00 am
nolie,
Oohhh, His Wikipedia page said he was a theatrical actor, so I assumed you were referring to a gay thing.
uga-brave
January 23rd, 2010
3:02 am
nolie, i am with you loved boy’s town. also liked pride of the yankees.
Haggard 1
January 23rd, 2010
3:03 am
nolie
Boys Town is as well
How ’bout Guess Who’s Coming To Dinner, which was Tracy’s last, I believe
David O'Brien
January 23rd, 2010
3:04 am
Breaking Away, what a great movie.
Brian’s Song, one of my all-time emotional movies. The locker room scene gets me every time, when Billy Dee Williams, playing Gale Sayers (KU grad), tells the rest of the Chicago Bears that Brian Piccolo has cancer and ask them to pray for him when they hit their knees that night.
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
3:04 am
he was a movie actor who among other things was famous for a long time relationship with Katharine Hepburn, not a sissy guy like you theatrical actors.
uga-brave
January 23rd, 2010
3:05 am
pride of the yankees. i guess that makes us old. anyone else looking forward to “pacific?”
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
3:06 am
Yes Uga, i hope it approaches band of Brothers in quality.
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
3:06 am
Enter your comments here
Jurrjens4NLCY
January 23rd, 2010
3:07 am
nolie,
Ouch. You wanna throw down nolie? Oh, I made WWS, btw. Yeah, thanks for asking.
Jurrjens4NLCY
January 23rd, 2010
3:10 am
I mean WSS
China Grove
January 23rd, 2010
3:10 am
thanks, I’ll be sure to check it out.
Haggard 1
January 23rd, 2010
3:10 am
DOB–Brian’s Song! Sure enough
Locker room speech gets me too, as does Sayers’ acceptance speech.
Piccolo’s wife, Joy, had Atlanta connections
uga-brave
January 23rd, 2010
3:10 am
jackie earle haley?
never really turned out to be kelly leak, right?
when i was a kid i thought kelly leak hung the moon. harley, great center fielder. hit dingers. what kid did not want to be kelly leak?
David O'Brien
January 23rd, 2010
3:10 am
For best sports movies, I’d go Slap Shot, Bull Durham, Raging Bull, Rocky, Hoosiers….
But I gotta say, I loved the original Bad News Bears, with Walter Matthau (and even the remake with Billy Boy Thornton was surprisingly good).
David O'Brien
January 23rd, 2010
3:11 am
Favre and Vikes will upset the Saints.
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
3:12 am
glad to hear it I was in a lot of plays in HS. Played Teddy Roosevelt Brewster. All I had to do in that one was run up a flight of stairs anf yell charge!! several times a night. well actually there was a bit more dialog than that. Couldn’t sing on key well enough to be more than crowd scenes in musicals
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
3:13 am
Teddy was Arsenic and Old Lace. A great Cary Grant movie too.
Jurrjens4NLCY
January 23rd, 2010
3:15 am
Arsenic and Old Lace
Haggard 1
January 23rd, 2010
3:15 am
DOB–
Raging Bull–man that Oscar winner IS good! And Bull Durham
I know it’s a Paul Newman 70’s flick, but I’ve never seen Slap Shot.
Agree on Favre and the Vikings–Vike defense is difference, I think.
Jurrjens4NLCY
January 23rd, 2010
3:16 am
“We’ve never had yellow fever in the window still… it seems to be spreading…”
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
3:17 am
Played Harvey in Harvey, another part with little dialog
BravesAC
January 23rd, 2010
3:17 am
Thanks to all who left kind words for my son coming home from Iraq. Tom loves the Braves as much as I do and reads DOB’s stuff faithfully.
Modern war is so crazy. Your son can be talking to you the phone (patched in to Fairchild AFB here) and then say “Gotta go Dad, we’re pulling out on mission.” You sit on pins and needles till he calls back and we pick right up on our Braves or Colts conversation. The guys follow all sports over there, NCAA brackets, etc. just as much as home. – maybe more for escape.
The two funniest stories I heard from them about there came from Tom’s older brother, Jer, a Ranger in training now, who served two tours there as regular Army.
I asked one time if the the rockets ever did any damage to his base. Jer said yeah…the only real hit was shrapnel that went through our big screen TV, taking it out. We we pizzed!
The second was Jer’s doing a house to house, and having to kick a door in. He kicked the door in, in full gear, with weapon drawn…on the other side was an local, on the throne, reading a newspaper. He was in the right place for being scared shi*less. Almost as scary as counting on Chipper and Glaus for 135 plus games each….but I honestly think Jones’ pride to have a good year and Glaus’ salary drive will spur them to it.
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
3:18 am
I see that you know it
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
3:21 am
Slap Shot is awesome
Jurrjens4NLCY
January 23rd, 2010
3:23 am
I see that you know it
Yep. Very funny play. One of my favorites because it’s so simple yet so clever. It’s a shame you can’t sing, 1. because you won’t get casted 2. because singing show-tunes are fun! “Geee! Officer Krupke…”
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
3:24 am
Almost as scary as counting on Chipper and Glaus for 135 plus games each BAC
Actually I’m hoping Chipper doesn’t play 135 or more games this year. I think he will do better with a little rest
jed
January 23rd, 2010
3:24 am
sorry nolie, spencer tracy was apparently bisexual:
Though a confident professional, he was a difficult, guilt-ridden man, alcoholic and bisexual, the two sides of his personality perhaps expressed in the 1941 Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2008/jan/27/4
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
3:25 am
ecause singing show-tunes are fun! JJ
true but I can post the lyrics here
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
3:28 am
yeah I know, but I prefer to think of them as rumors jed just rumors. at least he wasn’t Rock Hudson
jed
January 23rd, 2010
3:30 am
interesting blog today on scafer. what i take from it is that i dont doubt he can play, dont doubt he can hit. but at this point, you gotta wonder a little bit about his judgment, considering the hgh suspension, his strange denial/non-denial, and then going all last year not telling cox that he’d hurt his wrist. sure, i understand he wanted to play, but at a certain point, when you’re costing your team production by hitting .200 and striking out every time, you’ve gotta fess up. he’s young so i wont hold it against him, but yeah i gotta wonder about his judgment. for that matter, i gotta wonder why cox didnt pull him aside and get the information out of him. gregor blanco would’ve been better in the interim…
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
3:31 am
He played in several films with Clark Gable, they were great friends but he stopped doing it cause Clark always got the girl. I guess my favorite Tracy film would be Captains Courageous
Haggard 1
January 23rd, 2010
3:31 am
BravesAC -glad to know Tom is home and out of harm’s way.
Following his two tours in Iraq, I asked my nephew what he missed most about being there and his reply was, “The fun we had”.
Jurrjens4NLCY
January 23rd, 2010
3:31 am
nolie,
Yea… Because that’s the same
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
3:32 am
Rock wasn’t really Bi JJ
Let`s Start the Season
January 23rd, 2010
3:34 am
Great Baseball movies? you left out the Lou Gehrig one. Also, the dicussion about how great of a young prospect was Andruw Jones at 19 when he first came up? The numbers he put up his last year in the minors were absolutely mindboggling,yes. Talent? unbelievable. But all that faded away earlier than it should have because he discovered what other young men in their early and mid-twenties in Atlanta at that time. He knew Buckhead was the place to go. With his good looks, a good natured smile. He could lure the babes, and acquired a taste for beer. Can`t say I wouldn`t have done the same myself, if I was in his shoes. Anyway, he did his best to prove a 248 pound CFer deserved a long term fat contract, despite declining numbers. Thankfully the Braves front office knew when to say NO! to that one. If I see ya at the bar one day Andruw, I`d like to share a tall one with ya.
uga-brave
January 23rd, 2010
3:34 am
jed might be right, though then again hephburn was liberal. bad week to be a liberal.
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
3:35 am
Rock broke a lot of hearts on the screen, but when it came out that he was gay millions of women were crushed
jed
January 23rd, 2010
3:36 am
you know that randolph scott was gay too, right? no joke. he and cary grant were a couple. kinda puts a different spin on that song, “whatever happened to randolph scott?” well, he wasnt the traditional american they figured him for.
uga-brave
January 23rd, 2010
3:36 am
air america,? mass. going right.
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
3:37 am
I think he was right Uga,there were often rumors of Tracy as bi
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
3:40 am
yeah, but Randy is still my hero jed
jed
January 23rd, 2010
3:41 am
and i should say i’m just pointing this stuff out. i have several gay friends. biggest problem i have with them is they make fun of me for liking baseball.
uga-brave
January 23rd, 2010
3:42 am
then of course we have john edwards?
jed
January 23rd, 2010
3:42 am
i’ll tell you who was cool, nolie, was gregory peck.
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
3:43 am
no politics uga bad boy
uga-brave
January 23rd, 2010
3:43 am
nolie, sorry you are correct.
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
3:44 am
I liked Peck, but not as much as several others of his generation. To Kill A Mockingbird was a tremendous movie though
uga-brave
January 23rd, 2010
3:46 am
cool actors? give me the duke, or clint.
uga-brave
January 23rd, 2010
3:47 am
or grant in all the hitchcock movies.
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
3:49 am
huge fan of both Uga, but Wayne was openly unhappy with Clint. turned down a role in one of his movies. absolutely detested High Plains Drifter. Called it unAmerican.
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
3:50 am
Grant was one of my faves, copuld play anything but was superb in comedy
jed
January 23rd, 2010
3:51 am
he had a great presence about him. great dignity.
Jurrjens4NLCY
January 23rd, 2010
3:53 am
Anyone see Samuel L. Jackson in “Repeat the Same Line 20 God Damn Times?”
China Grove
January 23rd, 2010
3:53 am
What other teams do you all root for?
for me it’s the Canadiens, Lakers, Browns, Blue Devils (college hoops), Irish (college football)
jed
January 23rd, 2010
3:55 am
jj– it’s 3 in the morning! you are 10 years old! what are you doing up at this hour taking the lord’s name in vain? should we call HRS?
nolie
January 23rd, 2010
3:55 am
But then Wayne ripped the hell outta High Noon too.
John Wayne proclaimed his dislike for this movie, seeing it as a parable for the blacklisting and anti-communist furor that was taking hold in the early 1950’s. He found it disgraceful that Marshal Will Kane (Gary Cooper) tosses his badge into the dirt at the end of the film. Seven years later, Wayne and Howard Hawks would made “Rio Bravo” as a response to the radical “High Noon.” As late as 1971, Wayne, in a Playboy magazine interview, called “High Noon”, “the most un-American thing I’ve ever seen in my whole life.” If Wayne disliked what the film stood for, Hawks abhorred it, insulting his sense of professionalism. He therefore made a film where the sheriff refuses help from the town’s citizens, instead accepting help from only other “outsiders” like the young gunslinger and the town drunk. Whereas, Will Kane, in “High Noon”, was an accepted member of the town’s social circle with friends. John T. Chance, in “Rio Bravo” separates himself from the town, he is a professional lawman, an outsider and not part of the town’s citizenship.
uga-brave
January 23rd, 2010
3:56 am
see you guys later, always a pleasure mr. nolie.