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Cold Stove
January 25th, 2010
5:01 pm
when Prado hits .300 again this year, .380obp, 40 2b, 70rbi or so from the 2 spot will you call him average again next year?
Redstick19
January 25th, 2010
5:03 pm
RC- does that mean the blogger formerly known as Chuck James was solid until the 6th inning will now have to be known as Chuck james was solid until the 6th inning for the Nationals? Just wondering.
Redstick19
January 25th, 2010
5:04 pm
when Prado hits .300 again this year, .380obp, 40 2b, 70rbi or so from the 2 spot will you call him average again next year?
Nah, I’ll still call him Marteeen Prado. I know, I’m a smartass. Hey, Cold Stove, I hope he does hit those numbers- and I’ll gladly admit that he hit better than I thought he would. I’m a Braves fan here, so I want him to do good.
Redstick19
January 25th, 2010
5:06 pm
wait… 70 RBI from the 2-hole? Really?
rammerjammer
January 25th, 2010
5:06 pm
Anders,
I’m laughing at your little digs about Nate’s eyes. For an outfielder with a glove on one hand and a white stick in the other, I thought he did allright.
But seriously…Gary Matthews Jr.? I mean, at least our guy might get better. Matthews is garbage.
Lew
January 25th, 2010
5:11 pm
Well, Furcal may be better than Nate- or not. However, Nate’s Atlanta performance was not up to his 162 game average-even when adding 33% to all his stats to even out the plate appearances. Here’s the comparison-162 game averages and extended Atlanta numbers .
BA-162 gm. avg- .260- Atlanta .257 OBP- Avg,- .342, Atl- .354 SLG-avg.- .454, ATl. .419
OPS- avg. .796, Atl. .773 2b- avg. 33, Atl. 30 SB- avg. 22, Atl. 16 HR- avg. 20, Atl. 16
RBI- avg.66, Atl. 48
What I’m seeing here (especially in Atlanta) is an average player. Why is anyone trying to convince us how good he is? It just ain’t there to prove. Yeah he can definitely be better but he hasn’t yet.
jztwothree
January 25th, 2010
5:11 pm
Chuck James signed a minor-league contract with the Nationals
Nationals are well on their way to becoming the Royals. Well done.
Cold Stove
January 25th, 2010
5:16 pm
wait… 70 RBI from the 2-hole? Really? Red
That should actually be runs, but I don’t think 65 rbi is out of the question or impossible 55-60 is probably more like it. but he did have 49rbi in 450ab last year.
David O'Brien
January 25th, 2010
5:17 pm
Rosenthal says on Twitter that the Nationals signed Chuck James. Minor-league deal, of course, after he missed last season for shoulder surgery….
Rammerjammer: That’s true about Prado in BP — nobody on the team hits them farther. Nobody.
Cold Stove
January 25th, 2010
5:19 pm
Personaly don’t think it’s right to call the dude average at this point. Is he Chase Utley no, but who is. Plus I consider the position he plays which is mostly 2nd base. Is he great no, but he is good and I think he will just get better.
ugaaccountant
January 25th, 2010
5:21 pm
Cold Stove
January 25th, 2010
5:01 pm
when Prado hits .300 again this year, .380obp, 40 2b, 70rbi or so from the 2 spot will you call him average again next year?
If he gets that exact stat line in the 2 hole with a correspondingly decent SLG/OPS & R’s, i’ll call him well above average.
However to be fair, he is a career .360 obp guy so he’ll need to improve on that line to reach .380 which is a really sizeable jump. He also was not actually on pace to hit 70 rbi’s, assuming you have 600 as his projected at-bats.
Also, the 3 “professional” estimates put him at about 450 at bats in 2010 with very similar numbers to 2009. Just for discussion purposes, perhaps he picks up an injury of some sort now that he’s going to be an everyday guy from opening day.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=3312&position=3B
nolie
January 25th, 2010
5:22 pm
I guess we need to convince him that all the games are just batting practice then huh? Certainly a huge change over 2007-2008 and b4 then, cause when I watched him regularly he sure wasn’t hitting ‘em like that BP or not.
Cold Stove
January 25th, 2010
5:23 pm
well I am sure you are an average accountant too UGA
Anders
January 25th, 2010
5:25 pm
rammerjammer- Mathews is costing the Mets $1mm per year. If he shows anything at all he might even be tradeable to some team in July. If not, oh well. Mathews isn’t the problem – pitching is.
Braves607
January 25th, 2010
5:25 pm
Question. Do we have to pay to get into the Braves Caravan sites?
Jake W.
January 25th, 2010
5:25 pm
“Based solely on the raw strength shown during batting practice, Prado has as much power as anybody on the club right now”
I don’t see the dispute with this quote. No one said Prado was going to turn into Ryan Howard but I can believe this. I remember reading a couple of quotes saying how strong Yunel was. There is strong but I think someone said it earlier, its how often he actually connects. I just think the approach Martin and Yunel have at the plate means that they won’t really have high homerun numbers. Some people are just fine with hitting for power, i.e. Uggla and howard, And thats a different approach to hitting than Martin and Yunel take.
Liberty Media
January 25th, 2010
5:26 pm
Question. Do we have to pay to get into the Braves Caravan sites?(Braves607)
Would you be willing too?
nolie
January 25th, 2010
5:27 pm
Also, the 3 “professional” estimates put him at about 450 at bats in 2010 Uga Acct
I fail to see any logic behind those projections.He’s not fighting Johnson for second and he might get movedto another position in an emergency. He does not have a history of injuries, Many of those projections just average the last three years as their basis not necessarily taking into consideration changing circumstances.
P. W. Hjort
January 25th, 2010
5:30 pm
Don’t ever put any emphasis onto the projection systems’ playing time estimates unless they use the community playing time projections rather than mathematical projections for playing time.
Anders
January 25th, 2010
5:30 pm
Based solely on the raw strength shown during batting practice, Prado has as much power as anybody on the club right now” (Jake W)
Who’s original quote is this? I’m assuming because of the BP reference it was DOB? Not sure who else would be qualified to say so otherwise?
Mr J
January 25th, 2010
5:30 pm
Austinbrave,
I’ve stood next to Greg Maddux, and he’s a legit 6 feet. I don’t think Medlen is anywhere near that.
Cold Stove
January 25th, 2010
5:31 pm
Who’s original quote is this? I’m assuming because of the BP reference it was DOB? Not sure who else would be qualified to say so otherwise? ANDERS
it came from bowman Q/A @ mlb.com today
Redstick19
January 25th, 2010
5:32 pm
I guess we need to convince him that all the games are just batting practice then huh?
if we could convince at least half of MLB players of that… trust me, the home run record would be about 200 a season and 1,500 for careers. When you know what pitch is coming and you know at what speed it’s coming, everyone’s a home run hitter at that level of ball. It’s still a funny thought, though. How exactly would you imagine Bobby motivating/inspiring them to believe it’s just batting practice? That’s be an interesting conversation.
Heath
January 25th, 2010
5:33 pm
DOB -
Does Mike Anderson’s rendition of 40-minutes of hell (from his mentor Nolan Richardson…but now called the fastest 40 minutes or something like that) gonna have enough impact tonight to give Missouri any chance tonight? Really looking forward to tonight’s lineup MU/KU and Georgetown/SU….should be great.
Jake W.
January 25th, 2010
5:34 pm
Anders, rammerjammer quoted it from Bowman I think. I just read it as the guy saying that the guy is strong and can hit it pretty far, not that he’s going to turn into Chase Utley next season.
rammerjammer
January 25th, 2010
5:38 pm
Anders,
We shall see who performs better…your million-dollar outfielder or our million-dollar first baseman. So, what think ye of the Bearded Icon possibly joining your rotation?
Anders
January 25th, 2010
5:44 pm
rammerjammer – The most the Mets will have to pay Mathews is $1mm per. Period. Not true with Glaus. I’m not even remotely comparing them so everyone save your posts, I’m just mentioning it because you brought it up. If Glaus gives the Braves games he’ gets paid a fair bit more than $1mm. Tops out at $4.15mm I believe. Not saying he wouldn’t be worth it but salary wise it’s apple and oranges.
David O'Brien
January 25th, 2010
5:46 pm
That was Bowman talking about his strength. All I did was agree that Prado, this past season during batting practice, hit more tape-measure shots than anyone on the team. It was surprising, for me and others, to see it day after day. Of course that’s BP, not the games.
Yunel also hits them a ton in BP (and Francoeur did before he left).
Anders
January 25th, 2010
5:47 pm
As for Smoltz – that would be interesting. Maybe then the Mets could get Maddux to lace them up one last time? – then all three could go into the Hall with some Mets blood in them. {:
David O'Brien
January 25th, 2010
5:48 pm
Heath, Tigers are capable on any given night, but they’re a lot more formidable at home. Especially against the Jayhawks, who are absolutely hated over in Columbia, Mo. Bitter rivals.
ugaaccountant
January 25th, 2010
5:52 pm
Cold Stove
January 25th, 2010
5:23 pm
well I am sure you are an average accountant too UGA
Yep, sure am. In the context of being an average accountant, that probably encompasses about 90% of the profession as we all get about the same amount accomplished in a given work week. That’s why nearly all accountants in a given job function are paid about the same salary.
For a major league ballplayer, my definition of being average means being the 11th to 25th best starter at your position. Prado’s 2009 season indicates he’ll probably be on the high end of that. KJ also is an average 2nd baseman, but more on the low end of the range.
Above average is someone like Robinson Cano that does it all a good bit better than Prado, or someone like Brandon Phillips who fills a cleanup hitter role and can steal some bases.
Below average is someone who either warms a bench or barely can hang onto a starting job.
Braves_Fan_RSD
January 25th, 2010
5:53 pm
Just to add my 2 cents worth to the Martin Prado Above Average status:
Here is the stats of a MLB qualified 2B
.271/.345/.439/.784
Here are Martin Prado’s stats:
.307 (+.036) / .358 (+.013) / .464 (+.025) / .822 (+.038)
Now where does that rank him?
AVG – 2 in NL and 3 in MLB
OBP – 5 in NL and 8 in MLB
SLG – 2 in NL and 6 in MLB
OPS – 2 in NL and 5 in MLB
I would qualify him as an above average 2nd baseman
ugaaccountant
January 25th, 2010
5:53 pm
But sure, let’s be all warm and fuzzy and say every one of our players is great. Can’t hurt their feelings. Every last one of them is a hall of famer.
Braves607
January 25th, 2010
5:53 pm
Can anybody answer my question? Do we have to pay to get into the Braves Caravan sites? Thanks.
rammerjammer
January 25th, 2010
5:54 pm
DOB,
That is really interesting about Prado. Of course, the greatest home run hitter of them all was 6′0″ and 180 pounds.
Anders
January 25th, 2010
5:56 pm
Well, Glavine had the Mets blood all over him from that fateful Sunday – but you get the drift.
Redstick19
January 25th, 2010
5:58 pm
uga- it’s okay, man. I’m an average blogger, but I know my role and accept it; so I’m okay with being average. Now, I just hope Marteeen…. oh, nevermind. God forbid we call anyone on Braves team simply “average.” I forget, they’re all world beaters. Every one of them.
nolie
January 25th, 2010
5:59 pm
Can anybody answer my question? Do we have to pay to get into the Braves Caravan sites? Thanks.
maybe DOB knows the answer to that. he might just have missed your question b4. I have no idea myself
Redstick19
January 25th, 2010
6:02 pm
Braves_Fan_RSD:
Yeah, those stats are nice. But can Prado pitch in relief when Medlen goes on DL because of his lack of height? Joking, man. I kid.
BravesFanChris25
January 25th, 2010
6:02 pm
Nats signing all the Braves castoffs lol.
nolie
January 25th, 2010
6:04 pm
oh, nevermind. God forbid we call anyone on Braves team simply “average.” I forget, they’re all world beaters. Every one of them. Redstick
I think the stats that RSD posted posted show that he is above average-at least so far- in reality not just in the minds of Braves fans.
Now defense is a different question, most show him to have had an AVERAGE year last season on D.
So now we can all feel better about our perceptions.
Redstick19
January 25th, 2010
6:06 pm
nolie-
those stats are nice. Even above average, I’ll admit. But he (Prado) hasn’t even had a full-time job for a full season yet. All I’m saying is keep the crown off his head for now. For now. He could work out very well in long run. I hope he does. Consider this: Francouer had very impressive stats in first non-full season. Look where that got him… and us.
Jake W.
January 25th, 2010
6:06 pm
“God forbid we call anyone on Braves team simply “average.” I forget, they’re all world beaters. Every one of them.”- Redstick19
I’m just trying to figure out who said they were all world beaters. Now in terms of how we value our players I think most of them fall into two categories on this blog. Over valued or under valued. Very rarely does someone get it right. How about this, Prado may very well be an average second basemen this year who had an above average season last year.
David O'Brien
January 25th, 2010
6:09 pm
Braves607: No, no charge for Braves Caravan. It’s free, and so are autographs.
Braves public relations person just informed me that the list will come out tomorrow with specific players attending each stop, locations, etc.
Redstick19
January 25th, 2010
6:09 pm
Jake W.- very diplomatic. Well played.
dogsbrekky
January 25th, 2010
6:10 pm
Dobi – please do not curse Yunel and Marteeeeeennn by mentioning Frenchy in the same way ………… apart from that faux pas, all is great
Steve from OH
January 25th, 2010
6:10 pm
I would qualify him as an above average 2nd baseman
At this point, I certainly would too, at least offensively. I still am a bit anxious that his numbers will decline as he sees more playing time, Historically, he’s been bad at 2B, but his UZR/150 wasn’t too bad last season, so hopefully he can improve on that or at least hold it steady. But all in all, a very nice player to have. I’m much more excited about him now than I was two seasons ago.
ugaaccountant
January 25th, 2010
6:11 pm
If Prado is above average, then why is nobody ever talking him up in the media? You hear all kind of hype on Utley, Kinsler, Hill, Pedroia, Roberts, Phillips, Cano, Zobrist, Uggla heck Ian Stewart gets more press. Gordon Beckham’s moving to 2b.
Basically there’s my top 11 in no particular order. Prado would be close behind. I refuse to spend any more time defending this though as to me it’s just silly irrational fights about the meaning of words like average, when I can’t see anyone that would be able to defend him as clearly being top 10.
nolie
January 25th, 2010
6:12 pm
I’m much more excited about him now than I was two seasons ago. Steve
I tried to tellya 2 years ago, I tried.
nolie
January 25th, 2010
6:13 pm
he’s only been really bad at second in the bigs when he had to jump around a lot, his minor league play was pretty average, not terrible. His play last season was better across the board then b4 in Atlanta
Cold Stove
January 25th, 2010
6:13 pm
Above average is someone like Robinson Cano that does it all a good bit better than Prado, or someone like Brandon Phillips who fills a cleanup hitter role and can steal some bases. UGAA
Ok Cano was slightly better in the 187 more at bats he had. But Phillips you are off your rocker on this one dude.
Prado had more doubles, a better ops, better slugging, better average.
dude I thought you were a numbers guy.
Braves_Fan_RSD
January 25th, 2010
6:14 pm
If Prado is above average, then why is nobody ever talking him up in the media? You hear all kind of hype on Utley, Kinsler, Hill, Pedroia, Roberts, Phillips, Cano, Zobrist, Uggla heck Ian Stewart gets more press. Gordon Beckham’s moving to 2b.
Basically there’s my top 11 in no particular order. Prado would be close behind. I refuse to spend any more time defending this though as to me it’s just silly irrational fights about the meaning of words like average, when I can’t see anyone that would be able to defend him as clearly being top 10.
Ok got it UGA you put more emphasis on the name on the back of the jersey than the stats they put up which is exactly what the media does.
Cold Stove
January 25th, 2010
6:14 pm
and for the record UGA, I never said he was great, but good and not average.
jack
January 25th, 2010
6:14 pm
it cost $30at rome for the caravan
nolie
January 25th, 2010
6:15 pm
when I can’t see anyone that would be able to defend him as clearly being top 10 Uga Acctt
as a hitter evevy one of his stats were top 10, most well higher than that.
ugaaccountant
January 25th, 2010
6:15 pm
How about this, Prado may very well be an average second basemen this year who had an above average season last year.
I’m down with this. I just try very careful to avoid projecting smaller role results onto full time 2nd slot hitting results. This is about the time in his career that KJ, JF and others really started to feel the pressure as pitchers built a better book on them.
Jake W.
January 25th, 2010
6:16 pm
“If Prado is above average, then why is nobody ever talking him up in the media? You hear all kind of hype on Utley, Kinsler, Hill, Pedroia, Roberts, Phillips, Cano, Zobrist, Uggla heck Ian Stewart gets more press.”-ugaaccountant
Simple answer, for the same reason Brian McCann and Yunel Escobar don’t get a lot of attention. People who actually pay attention will recognize how well he did last season. A barometer of how good a person is though really shouldn’t be measured in how much media attention and hype they get though, should it? Or else the Mets should won the division the past three years and it would be the Cowboys in the superbowl right now.
Elon Brave
January 25th, 2010
6:16 pm
Does anyone know where the Braves caravan will be Columbia, SC?
Sorry if someone has already answered this.
Anders
January 25th, 2010
6:17 pm
Are you guys consdiering fielding when you’re rating Prado? Kind of important up the middle with their pitching staff – no?
Steve from OH
January 25th, 2010
6:18 pm
Ok got it UGA you put more emphasis on the name on the back of the jersey than the stats they put up which is exactly what the media does.
Yep.
And besides, if Prado is around no. 11 (give or take, using ugaaccountant’s list), then he is by definition above average, as wouldn’t average be no. 15?
Besides, the stats posted previously clearly demonstrate that he was above average in 2009.
Anders
January 25th, 2010
6:18 pm
Jake W- Actually – the attention starts when a teams own fans start to come to the park in large numbers. I mean, if the home folks don’t take notice why would the national media?
nolie
January 25th, 2010
6:19 pm
Gee I thought I just posted a couple comments dealing with that. I for certain am considering fielding, he is an average fielder at best, but most of the talk was originally directed at his hitting.
ugaaccountant
January 25th, 2010
6:21 pm
McCann’s a 3 or 4 time all-star and generally considered the 2nd best catcher in the game (until v-mart became a red sox and got an unfair boost in hype).
Yunel gets decent hype. The Padres and Red Sox have both coveted him for instance. Problem with Yunel’s hype is there are 3 SS’s in our division that have a huge track record of success so there is a pretty big shadow to overcome. Plus Yunel does everything Prado does but better, especially defense.
nolie
January 25th, 2010
6:21 pm
BAH! Just a buncha disgruntled Johnson fans still around, hatin’ on my boy Marteeeen cause he beat out Kelly
Braves607
January 25th, 2010
6:21 pm
Elon Brave. No. No stop in Columbia. But there will be stops in Greenville and Spartanburg SC.
Complete list:
http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/atl/ticketing/caravan.jsp
Anders
January 25th, 2010
6:22 pm
Nolie- Hadn’t really been reading all the Prado posts and didn’t feel like researching backwards. I lazily asked the question and you answered. Thanks.
Average – at best, for sure.
Steve from OH
January 25th, 2010
6:22 pm
Besides, if RSD’s stats weren’t enough, we can simply point out that the league average 2B posted a .267 EqA in 2009, while Marteen posted .293 (that’s pretty good, btw). It was in 450 AB, sure, but that’s still solid no matter what way you slice it. If he gives me a good season at 550 or so PA and doesn’t embarrass himself on D, then I’m fully on the Marteen bandwagon (that is, if Bobby’s Cox will let me on…).
Steve from OH
January 25th, 2010
6:25 pm
Steve – Where was Castillo on that list of 2nd baseman?
He was on the trading block, I think…
Anders
January 25th, 2010
6:25 pm
Steve – Where was Castillo on that list of 2nd baseman?
Redstick19
January 25th, 2010
6:25 pm
dang, didn’t mean to spark something that would grow into all this dividedness about Prado. Okay, I’ll admit he’s above average and I bow down to his batting practice home run hitting prowess. Now, where do I sign up for the replica plaque of the World Series Championship to which Prado will single-handedly lead us with his above-average skills?
Hold on- before you angrily post a response to me… All of the above is a joke, of course. Look, I like Prado and I will just shut up about him and we’ll see what happens this season. It would make me very happy if he proves me wrong and puts up top-10 numbers. And you guys can say to me “I told you so.” And there will be much drinking and rejoicing. And name-calling I’m sure.
ugaaccountant
January 25th, 2010
6:27 pm
If he gives me a good season at 550 or so PA and doesn’t embarrass himself on D, then I’m fully on the Marteen bandwagon (that is, if Bobby’s Cox will let me on…).
I will to, just don’t see him doing it.
Steve from OH
January 25th, 2010
6:28 pm
Whoa. Posts flip-flopped. Far out, dude…
Anders
January 25th, 2010
6:28 pm
And you guys can say to me “I told you so.” And there will be much drinking and rejoicing. And name-calling I’m sure. (Redstick19)
You must be new here. These things you mentioned above never happen here. We all know we are all right and wrong from time to time. We just accept that as brethren and move on. Rubbing others faces in it and name calling just isn’t part of this particular blogs DNA.
Steve from OH
January 25th, 2010
6:31 pm
Luis Castillo posted a .282 EqA last year (.267 is avg. for 2B), compared with .257 in 2008, .273 in 2007, and .252 in ‘06 and ‘07.
Anders
January 25th, 2010
6:32 pm
Thanks Steve. I’ll take the same season from Castillo again. However, this time with Reyes in front of him and some pop behind him. Hopefully he comes as ready this season as he did last year. (at least for me)
nolie
January 25th, 2010
6:33 pm
Rubbing others faces in it and name calling just isn’t part of this particular blogs DNA. Anders
great sarcasm my man
Jake W.
January 25th, 2010
6:33 pm
Don’t buy that Anders, we all know how it works. Either you’re from the Northeast or you are just really to good to get ignored. But I must commend you on getting in your little attendance digg. Congrats, the Mets have and probably will always post better numbers in their home park than the braves or even the marlins for that fact, but if you don’t think braves fans don’t recognize how good McCann or Escobar are well, you’re wrong. There are plenty of talented players out there that get overlooked because of their teams market while some players get overvalued because of it. Honestly though, wouldn’t expect someone from New York to get it.
nolie
January 25th, 2010
6:35 pm
Uga Acct musta been a Kelly lover, nya nya nya.
oops sorry Anders
Redstick19
January 25th, 2010
6:35 pm
Anders- funny.
ugaaccountant
January 25th, 2010
6:40 pm
I’m a Kelly apologist. I expect he will finish 2010 around the 20th best 2b and Prado will be about 12th. So I do like Prado more than KJ, but I refuse to bash KJ or Frenchy just because it’s the blog norm to do so.
Just Pat
January 25th, 2010
6:40 pm
Red…..your previous post…..to me the biggest thing was “we’ll see what happens this season”. I get SO tired of all the “projections”. We won’t know anything until they start playing.
Redstick19
January 25th, 2010
6:44 pm
uga’s comments got me thinking. Sooooooo… what will happen on this blog if KJ lights it up and finally realizes his potential in Arizona, and Prado provides “average” numbers for Braves?
Jake W.
January 25th, 2010
6:45 pm
“Red…..your previous post…..to me the biggest thing was “we’ll see what happens this season”. I get SO tired of all the “projections”. We won’t know anything until they start playing.”- Just Pat
Agree with everything in this post but half the fun for people on the blog is projections so while I am of the mind set of we will find out soon enough if Martin is able to sustain his 2009 numbers there are still a lot of people who love projecting.
Kelly Johnson
January 25th, 2010
6:46 pm
I apologize for not hiding out for a few months every winter in Venezuela free from any potential government investigation while I was taking performance enhancing drugs so that I could go from being a minor league punch and judy to a BP beast.
nolie
January 25th, 2010
6:46 pm
So I do like Prado more than KJ, but I refuse to bash KJ or Frenchy just because it’s the blog norm to do so Acct
I wasn’t bashing, I was playing to Anders sarcastic statement that we don’t rub things in here.I had high hopes for Kelly too and think & hope he will rebound some, especially in that park.
nolie
January 25th, 2010
6:48 pm
gonna hafta be <i<park-adjusted results redstick. Kelly has a MUCH better park to hit in
nolie
January 25th, 2010
6:50 pm
ah yes the old “I don’t like him so any improvement MUST be due to illigal activity” pretty lame Kelly, especially since your offense dropped off the face of the earth just like a retired user.
Redstick19
January 25th, 2010
6:51 pm
nolie- hopefully Prado’s numbers are so good, we won’t need any adjusting of any sort at all. Says Bobby Cox: “Go hit ‘em just like you do in BP, kid. Where’s Norton?”
Rob, still sore, from (SC)
January 25th, 2010
6:52 pm
Elon Brave
They said they are coming to Columbia on the 31st. Just don’t know where yet. I will be there
Just Pat
January 25th, 2010
6:52 pm
Jake…..agreed about half the fun BUT do get tired of a lot of the “negativity” (if that’s a real word). I just want them to start playing and see where we go from there! I, for one, have high hopes for this Braves team this year.
Just Pat
January 25th, 2010
6:53 pm
OH! And am not pinning hopes on any ONE player….just think (and hope) they gel together as a team.
Rob, still sore, from (SC)
January 25th, 2010
6:53 pm
Sunday, Jan. 31: Augusta, Ga. and Columbia, S.C.
Community appearances to be announced
4 p.m. — Autograph signing at Academy Sports + Outdoors
4210 Washington Road
Evans, Ga. 30809
(706) 210-6100
robdawg08
January 25th, 2010
6:53 pm
The Braves have added some talent but who knows if we will get the .300 30 100 Glaus or the .220 9 42 Glaus ? He strikes out a whole lot too like uh – Andruw did.
Cabrera wasn’t worth Vasquez 200 innings and 20 game potential IMO.
Cabrera will have to have a career year to justify this trade.
What does Schafer’s broken bone in his wrist not being diagnosed initially by the Braves medical team say about them ? In two words, pretty pathetic.
Soriano was more reliable than Wagner closing. Wagner cost the Mets post season opportunities. Again, the Braves are pinning their hopes on an aging veteran.
The team to beat IMO is the N.Y. Mets. They will be getting Santana,Beltran,and Reyes back healthy and added Jason Bay. So it is like adding 4 all-stars to their 2010 team. The Braves added Wagner,Melky, & Glaus while subtracting Vasquez. You do da’ math.
But just like all of you I will be hoping and wishing them the best.
Everyone accentuates the Positives here so I’ll be the reality guy that speaks about the negatives as well.
AdirondackDave
January 25th, 2010
6:56 pm
Anders — Many here would think you should have said Mets blood ON them, not IN them.
robdawg08
January 25th, 2010
7:08 pm
Bobby’s favorite movie must be Platoon ? It is like a requirement that he platoons at least one position EVERY year. If things come together they might compete with the Mets & Phillies this year. The young talent is magnificient headlined by Hanson,Escobar,Prado,and hopefully Heyward.
Why not start Heyward and see how he handles MLB pitching ? I remember David Justice was a weak power hitter in the minors and became an instant power hitter his rookie year and most of his career. Here’s hoping Heyward has an amazing ST.
Heath
January 25th, 2010
7:09 pm
Georgetown up 2 touchdowns early…
ugaaccountant
January 25th, 2010
7:09 pm
Nothing about Heyward is weak. He’s an amazing slugger.
Kelly Johnson
January 25th, 2010
7:15 pm
gonna hafta be <i<park-adjusted results redstick. Kelly has a MUCH better park to hit in
more like hafta roid adjust the results nolie. Marteeeeeeen has much better roids to take during his four months hiding out every winter in Venezuela
3 homers in 365 previous major league plate appearances
15 homers in 2119 minor league plate appearances
11 homers in 503 plate appearances in 2009
90 doubles in 2119 minor league plate appearances
56 doubles in his last 757 major league plate appearances
one beat writer described Prado as “surprisingly” hitting more tape measured bombs than anyone else on the team. The other beat writer mentions Prado’s “raw strength.” and says Prado has as much power as anybody on the club right now.
How the hell did that happen? The minor league slap hitting punch and judy now mysteriously has as much raw power as anyone in the franchise? Wake the eff up folks. His head looks as big as a Mardi Gras float. Considering his situation in Venezuela and the obvious limits of his natural talent as evidenced by his minor league career, Martin has the means, motive and opportunity to do exactly what his numbers are telling you he’s doing.
I replaced Marcus Giles and was replaced by the Venezuelan Marcus Giles, if you know what I mean.
Redstick19
January 25th, 2010
7:18 pm
uga- would you say Heyward is above average? Just kidding.:0
Redstick19
January 25th, 2010
7:21 pm
did I miss something? how did we go from (a)talking about Prado as average vs. above-average to (b)talking about Prado roiding it up in Venezuela? C’mon man. If Prado is juicing, then he needs to find a better dealer.