Here’s the “difference”: You stated in an earlier post that the Braves went 10-8 against the Phillies………I replied that the 10-8 record was misleading because while going 7-2 against them in the first half, we faltered in the second half by going 3-6 against them when the games became more important in the play-off chase…………then you counted by saying that “my memory didnt serve me correctly because the Braves in fact went 5-4 in the first half, 5-4 in the second half” (which was an incorrect assertion on your part).
If you dont feel that there is much of a difference between “5-4 and 6-6″…….then why did you try and correct me earlier? You are the one who started this by telling me that “my memory didnt serve me correctly” when it was plainly obvious that I was in the right here.
You slammed me for “my memory serving me correctly”…….yet you attack me when I want to correct you on it?
Pure BS from you. If you are “the first one to admit that you was wrong about something” (as you stated earlier today)….then why make a big deal of it. After all, you slammed me earlier when you thought I was wrong (which I wasnt).
That is what the “difference” is. I pointed out the fact that our overall record against the Phillies was misleading……and you slammed me for it.
N8: i must say your “sticking it to ‘em” posts are a blast to read. it almost makes me forget how much i miss baseball. I agree with you for the most part. glaus >> kotchman, glaus > laroche, mclouth > schafer, cabrera = GA, diaz > frenchy. also i think heyward can put up frenchy 2008 numbers (.250, 11HRs, 77RBIs, about). prado should be > KJ and all the other spots are similar or the same.
think about the phillies though…you think jason werth is going to hit 36 homers again? dude had a career year. and while he is a solid player, he is due to regress. ibanez is 37 and definitely slowed at the end of last season. their pitching after halladay is questionable…hamels stunk it up last year, they have blanton who is ok but moyer is still signed…who knows what lidge will do after his worst season ever, and they got baez who is not that impressive.
the phils are a very good team (obviously) but its not like they cant be beat. they have some question marks themselves.
Tom Waits wears Redwing boots………..I wasnt commenting on the “big picture” of the 162 schedule. I was commenting on N8’s comment earlier about our 10-8 record against the Phillies in 2009.
Spout about the loss of Vazquez all you want. But the TEAM only went 18-14 in his 32 starts.
Javy got screwed on the w/l record personally and team wise. No way a sub 3 era and 200+ innings pitched should lead to a team record of 18-14. He wasn’t wildly erratic either with a bunch of shutouts and blowouts. Would have been nice for him to get rewarded with better run support, but all his luck apparently flowed to Lowe.
Next year Javy’s era and w’s probably both increase a lot.
Next year Lowe’s w’s hopefully at least the same but with a much lower ERA.
“Tomahawkin – “And I’m already having nightmares of seeing Wagner against Utley and Howard in the 9th innings, Aren’t there pills you can take for that?”
Great post man…and yes there are pills for that…the only problem is i took them all after we signed Saito.
I let ya know if i find anymore”
LOL Yeah watching those matchups of Wagner aganst Pujols, Howard, or Utley in the 9th innings of this season is probably gonna make break out the Southern Comfort, And I’m not even a Whiskey drinker…
Twice rain delayed game, Hanson v. Pedro late in season. Hansen was about to roll and Pedro escaped 2 bases loaded jams. No rain and the Braves are 4-5 and who knows waht happens in game 3 of that series. When I guy starts debating the value of wins (whenever they occur), it becomes time to end the conversation.
I’ll be glad to come back to this blog when/if the braves prove me wrong come September. I’ll even appologize to the Mr.tight underwear DOB and everything. Sorry Dave, you just don’t seem like a laid back feller and I have to rib you a little. You deserve it. Good blog you’ve put up here, I just don’t care much for you.
As a member of the older generation one thing that bugs the hell out of me is the constant griping, bitching, moaning, groaning and general negative crap that flows onto these pages on a regular basis.
What makes you particularly annoying is that you generally come from the same group of bloggers. No matter what Frank Wren does he gets nailed by the same bunch of BS venders and it is never ending. The man can do nothing right, no matter what the hell he does.
And no matter what David O’Brien says or does the same cotiere is sitting there waiting for the chance to jump his case. If you don’t like the way David runs this blog why don’t you just take a walk and leave it to those who want to talk baseball, music and barbecue? Your constant bitching has long since grown old.
Many years ago I reached the conclusion that a positive outlook provides a helluva lot better chance of success in life than does a negative outlook. I have seldom found constant gripers sitting on top of the world. Look at yourselves and see if you don’t agree that you could do better. It would be appreciated by a lot of people.
For DOB; just keep doing what you do better than anyone else I have found, provide the information and interchange ideas with us. The positive ones appreciate you. The others don’t matter.
Tom Waits wears Redwing boots……..here is how a 10-8 record against a team is “misleading”:
First half of the season we went 7-2 against the Phillies, yet we were still behind them in the standings.
However in the second half (when we were supposedly playing better), we went 3-6 against the Phillies…….when we were battling to make up ground on them and the Rockies.
In other words, it was a tale of two halves when it came to how we played the Phillies. That is how a 10-8 record against a team can be considered “misleading”.
DAP: My heart’s fine (knock on wood). Other than too much caffeine, I try to follow a pretty good diet and stay away from the press dining-room type of fare. And I actually don’t drink much soda at all, maybe one a day, tops. And sweet tea only in restaurants that serve it, which means mostly just when I’m here in Atlanta, not in the cities the Braves travel to.
But I am addicted entirely to coffee. No question. And never decaf. Ever.
Tom Waits: I think DOB and I are on the same page. Also, if you haven’t heard Bon Iver’s “For Emma, Forever ago” given your tastes, I think you would love it. Sad, beautiful, haunting….
N8 and Lentz: why don’t you guys just stop all the mating dance and get a room.
I completely agree with you. The voting process is somewhat of a joke. How does Segui get a vote? If you look back, how has NO ONE gotten into the hall unanimously? Its a joke. Nolan Ryan wasn’t good enough for some writers? Gehrig? Ruth? Williams? It seems like a ton of writers don’t go about their thought process the right way.
Who am I to talk about the right way? But I just feel like there is no way to justify not voting for the top ring of players.
Absurbed”…Hoo-hoo! Sounds a bit naughty, doesn’t it?
And flexible in its usage. Could be “That notion is absurbed”, as in foolish; or “The spill was absurbed by the paper towel”. A little two-way action on the blogism, which, of course, gets it extra credit.
One more good thing about the blog: the knowledge that can be absurbed, even from posts (and posters) that are absurbed.
“THE BEAR Illegitimi non carborundum
Many years ago I reached the conclusion that a positive outlook provides a helluva lot better chance of success in life than does a negative outlook. I have seldom found constant gripers sitting on top of the world.”
Guess you must have a very poor opinion of the current state of affairs in politics and news then. Everything that’s done is with a negative spin and outlook.
Is your wife Australian also? It shouldn’t be very difficult to convince her she would like Southern California- just show her the winter weather reports
Agreed. Some writers have this mindset that if Ruth didn’t get in unanimously nobody will, and that’s a chicken-$### way to go about it. If there’s one voter that thinks Greg Maddux shouldn’t get in on the first ballot, he should be fired. Period. Same goes for Griffey and Randy Johnson. Asses kicked and voting rights revoked. It’s ridiculous.
DOB, have you tried the Keurig coffee machine? Its essentially a single serve coffee maker..really cool, and offers a ton of coffee choices via tiny single serve packages. I have no idea how it works, but the coffee is really good.
Bear and Tom Waits Redwing, yeah, yeah. Looks like any difference of opinion gives you two high blood pressure. Sucking up to O’Brien won’t receive you a check in the mail.
Daniel…………..Dude, it’s clear I’m the one in the right here. Just look at the stats.
Also, when N8 slammed me for “my memory not serving me correctly”……am I supposed to just let it slide? Yet when I’m wrong about something, the blog fills up posts that are quick to correct me.
I’m ok with being “corrected”……however I’m not going to sit here and not return the favor. I’m not some bytch who meekly accepting domestic violence as a prerequisite for being able to blog.
N8 was wrong to correct me. He incorrectly slammed me, yet he wants to make a big deal when I didnt take it lying down.
So what are you saying? Since the 10 wins the Braves got are misleading, we should return 2 to 4 wins back to the Fillies in order to prove your point. Well then OK, the Braves should have gone 8-10 against the Fillies. Does this make you feel better?
I am not sure citing the past has much to do with the future. What the Braves did or did not do against the Phillies or any other team last year doesn’t mean they are going to do the same this year.
Most line-ups are not the same as they were and players can have off or great years. Case in point is Chipper. Last year was a complete abberation for Chipper and while it could mean decline in his skills, who is to say that? Who can predict the future? Who can say that Howard won’t have a bad year or get hurt? no one.
Stats have their place in finding out generally how a player plays but they do not have a place in determing how a team is going to do in the coming year…especially when they havent even started spring training.
By the way, I said I appreciated positivity, but I aprreciate honesty more. Besides, we’re talking about a baseball team here, not a person suffering from a life threatening disease. Think there’s a difference?
Nick,
Predicting the Braves finish last in the NL east is completely asinine. I am not putting my money on them to win the division but worst case scenario they finish 3rd. There is no way the Nationals or Mets have a better record than the Braves.
Paul Lentz, no don’t come back. I don’t like you either. At least not as a blogger. You’re more annoying to me than I probably am to DOB,Bear and that Tom Waits guy.
Alot of the Brave’s success last year(going on memory, which is a dangerous thing)was in getting 2 out rallies/hits/scoring. (perhaps someone can confirm that or not and how it related to the rest of the league). I believe the 2010 version will win 88-92 games. But, if much of their good work was done with 2 outs last season (which may be statisticly unsustainable again in 2010), then perhaps last year’s team overachieved in that sense. Just curious.
Like N8 said, “if Chipper can be Chipper”, and I believe just as important can McCann make the next step toward super-star status if his eyes are right without glasses? If everything else being equal then this team should win 4-7 games more than last year’s, if they can score with 2 outs again.
The little homers might as well get used to this, every single baseball “expert”/magazine/etc. is going to pick it exactly like this.
And to whoever said they’d wager on the Braves winning 90 games, hell, I’d take that bet. They may win more than 75, but they’re not getting to 90. That’s just being realist.
Agreed. Some writers have this mindset that if Ruth didn’t get in unanimously nobody will, and that’s a chicken-$### way to go about it. If there’s one voter that thinks Greg Maddux shouldn’t get in on the first ballot, he should be fired. Period. Same goes for Griffey and Randy Johnson. Asses kicked and voting rights revoked. It’s ridiculous.”
I agree. And what these bozos don’t realize is that it’s comparing apples to oranges. Ruth, Cobb, Wagner, Walter Johnson and Mathewson were the first class, and they were up against every player in history, since no one was in yet. They were originally going to put players in from pre 1900 and post 1900, but none of the pre 1900 people got enough votes. That’s the big reason Cy Young didn’t make it the first year–it wasn’t made clear which group he belonged to, and he didn’t get enough votes on either side, though his total vote would have put him in (pretty stupid, huh?). Even saying all of that, if you have a ballot with 10 spaces, how could you leave off Cobb, Ruth, or Wagner? Or Young? Or Johnson? Beats me. But it’s slightly more defensible than the idiots who didn’t vote for Mays or Aaron.
I have often thought that they should do the HOF ballot like the MVP ballot, to encourage that each slot be filled. In other words, rank your ten players, like the MVP votes. So your first place person gets more shares than your 10th place person, and the 10th place person has a harder time getting in. No one sends in partial or blank MVP votes, because they can rank them, and they know if they vote Martin Prado 10th, it won’t carry the same weight as voting Albert Puhols first. Anyway, that’s just my theory.
GatorBrave, January 7th, 2010, 4:19 pm … “I said I appreciated positivity, … we’re talking about a baseball team here, not a person suffering from a life threatening disease. Think there’s a difference?”
Not really. You either have a positive outlook, or you don’t. If you apply negative thinking (i.e., Braves are going to suck), you reinforce that behaviour. When you try to switch over to positive thinking, you discover that it is not your natural response, and you have to relearn the positive response.
More importantly, when you are under stress, you will always revert to the behaviours with which you are most comfortable. In other words, those that you practice most frequently.
Big off season additions: Glaus, Cabrera, Hinske, Saito, Wagner
Subtractions: LaRoche, KJ, Gonzo, Soriano, Vazquez, Anderson
The Braves might have shuffled a few steps forward, backwards or to the side…but that certainly doesn’t look like a big step forward.
Maybe not carrying a Woodcrap or Corky will add a few W’s. Maybe not wasting a large chunks of our pinch hitting opps on Norton will add a W. Maybe not wasting so many ABs waiting for KJ or Frenchy to “come around” will be good for a few Ws.
That’s about the only way I see the Braves improving this year.
David- I’m addicted to caffine also. I have read lately that caffine is good for you. A report in Yahoo Health yesterday stated caffine as one of the top 9 products that helped you keep weight off and is good for you. Here is the link http://health.yahoo.com/experts/eatthis/41903/top-weight-loss-foods-for-2010/
Why has everyone bought into the media machine in Filly? I’m telling you, this team is not deep, they have as many “Ifs” as the Braves and trading for Halladay to replace Lee is insignificant because they are both great pitchers. What they did was weaken their Farm in all this phaldaroll. Fillie Phaldaroll! We still have Shafer, Heyward, Freeman, Hanson, Teheran and added the Yankees best pitching prospect, the Yankees best pitching prospect!!! The Fillies lost their best OF prospect in Taylor and their best pitching prospect in Drabek. How is it that Wren has done less than Amaro?
The main thing that we’ve acquired this off season that benefits a team of “Ifs” is versatility. We obtained a switch-hitting 4th OF that can play every OF position and has good speed, we signed a veteran bench player that can play corner OF spots, 3B, and 1B. And finally we signed a first basemen that originally played 3B. If anyone goes down then an adequate defender will replace them. The same could be said for the bullpen in signing a former closer in Saito to back-up Wagner.
Versatility is a powerful tool that we possess on this team along with having no glaring weakness and an above average pitching staff.
“I aprreciate positivity, I really do. But, come on, we’re counting on Chipper Jones to once again carry the offense.”
I’m not trying to throw everything you’re saying under the bus here, but I don’t think this is entirely the case. Yes the Braves are counting on 10 to pick up his game and bounce back from lastyears offensive nightmare, but I don’t think Wren or Cox are neccessarily counting on him to “carry the offense” – I think weight is gradually starting to build on McCann’s shoulders to carry that responsibility, he’s proven in the last 4 years he’s up to the challenge.
That being said, I don’t think going into 2010 that we’re looking for 1 player inparticular to offensively carry the team – we just need everyone in uniform to help out the team in some way, shape or form. We can’t have 2/3 of the OF sucking at the plate. We can’t have a perennial all-star 2b playing like a high schooler. We can’t have our young hot shot SS thinking he has to make every play look fancier than the last, We can’t have 1/2 year of solid production & 1/2 year of small ball from our 1B… We need EVERYONE to contribute, thats how this team is built. We don’t have A-Rod, Tex, and Swisher in our lineup – we don’t have 40HR guys that can just mash when another guy goes down, or the luxury of having Pujols & Holliday hitting back 2 back.
Stats re Hinske are surprisingly good. I had never heard he was on juice, and likely not in any case in ROY year in ‘02. He clearly hits RHP very well, and if that skill is present in ST, then he should see some game time.
As a former coffee and sugared coke drinker, I can tell you life is better with just the Diet stuff (w/caffeine). Stomach feels much better, and we all eat too much sugar. As we pass 40, we need to get down to no liquid calories, at least most days, and <100 carbs a day. You will feel much, much better.
Maddux should go in unanimously. The Unit should go in unanimously…but they won’t, b/c there’s always someone who has this “if Ruth (or substitute other legend’s name) didn’t go in unanimously no one should”
And that’s just silly – the argument isn’t that they don’t belong, it’s they don’t merit a historical vote.
“Sorry for missing the early August series in which they went 1-2 against the Phillies. I added up backwards off the schedule and missed that series, which gave me the 5-4 number, which made me assume that the first half was also 5-4.
But yes. You’re right. Down the stretch, the Braves went 3-6 against them. So yeah. If you’re counting the late June series that we swept them in, then yeah. They wen’t 7-2 earlier in the year, and 3-6 after that. But if you read my post, it clearly stated AFTER June 28th. So I was off by a frickin’ game. Thanks for correcting me.”
This is a recent post by Dentz….
“Yet he so “elegantly” stated that he is the “first to admit when he is wrong”.
What a joke, lol.”
I’m not debating with that dumbass anymore. He just doesn’t comprehend the English language very well. I clearly stated, that I INITIALLY MADE A MISTAKE by missing the early August series in which we lost 2 or 3 games. Which made my initial assessment of 5-4 against the Phillies after JUNE 28TH (which was the date I stated in my initial post – not 1st half/2nd half like Dentz has used), WRONG. WHICH I ADMITED TO.
By default of me taking 5 from 10 and 4 from 8 (we went 10-8 overall against the Phillies), I came up with a remaining record of 5-4. So I initially scoffed at Dentz’s idea of 7-2 in the “first half”. Simple math. Simple math mistake.
So, as I copied and pasted above, I apologized to him for my mistake.
To which he now CONTINUES to post how I’m a liar for stating I’m the first to apologize.
I’m done talking TO HIM. But that won’t stop me from talkin ABOUT him. He’s a dumbass. Ignore him.
But thanks for your suggestion, Daniel, if I’m ever looking for a form of self torture, I’ll be sure and consider getting a room with sir-Dentz.
Anybody else out there want to claim I don’t admit when I’m wrong after the fact or apologize when finding so? I’d like to think that while I’m a little over the top, I’m a standup blogger.
Lets have a blog vote out of bordem. Who’s “right” Dentz or me? I’m not talking about the 7-2 / 3-6 BS. I’ve already admitted he was right and I was wrong. I’m purely wanting to know who thinks I have a right to be annoyed by him accusing me of not apologizing and/or admitting I was wrong?
Jim,
I had not heard of Hinske doing PEDs either but if he had 02 was right in the middle of when the problem had peaked. If he had done them that was probably the year. He really hasn’t matched his totals since then in any category.
January 7th, 2010
4:13 pm
“THE BEAR Illegitimi non carborundum
Many years ago I reached the conclusion that a positive outlook provides a helluva lot better chance of success in life than does a negative outlook. I have seldom found constant gripers sitting on top of the world.”
ugaaccountant
Guess you must have a very poor opinion of the current state of affairs in politics and news then. Everything that’s done is with a negative spin and outlook.
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It is indeed a very poor situation when virtually all we can get over the news outlets (all of them) these days easily fits into the negative category. And yes, I also get tired of that. Don’t you?
I will readily admit I enjoyed success in the business world before our current economic situation came crashing down on us. However, facing reality about economics or politics is something I do on a regular basis, in my real world of investing or on my own blog. And I have been doing so successfully for ten years with that blog. Even with that we don’t spend our time attacking each other.
This blog however is an entirely different story. The rules here are “NO POLITICS”. To sit there and spin your wheels with a constant barrage of negative crap about baseball is silly. But if that is what cranks your tractor I guess you have every right to do so even knowing it is a drag on most who read the drivel.
I still will stick with the positive regardless of what you write. It is the way I choose to live my life.
I’m a never decaf kind of guy, too. But I can’t come close to your 8 cups a day routine. 4 is max for me. I do prefer a dark roast, though. Like Tarantino said “I buy the gourmet expensive stuff because when I drink it I want to taste it.”
Since I’ve been reading your posts, you’ve never been wrong, at least in knowledge and intent. We all exaggerate a little to make the point. Well maybe not you, you don’t need to, but I do. You’re points are well thought out and well supported. Were you an English major with a minor in Baseball History?
Damn Lentz! Why couldn’t you have left before quittin’ time. You’ve been clogging the blogpaths all afternoon. Now that I’m leaving so are you. Oh well, maybe you won’t be back tomorrow.
phillies
mets (if they can get some pitching)/braves
mets/braves
nats (i think they are much improved: strasberg (sp?), marquis, capps, etc)
marlins (the marlins haven’t improved yet and have lost nick johnson, gload, and either uggla or canta.
i think the mets and braves are pretty equal with the braves having the edge in pitching and the mets having the edge in offense. needless to say this will be a monster division, 2nd to only the AL east.
Like I told Lentz, if you want to argue the merits of wins at certain points of a 162 games season, then I’m dumbfounded. I can’t rationalize the irrational.
N8—I think you can guess my vote…Dentz is a blabbering idiot.
That’s why I scroll past any posts he makes, usually anyway though somtimes I find myself asking for the punishment of reading his blabbering, “I’m always right and everyone else are morons” posts when I’m bored and edgy. Though thankfully someone will bring me back to the light and remind me to start using my scroll button again.
“Were you an English major with a minor in Baseball History?”Tom Waits
Thanks for your kind words, but not even close my friend. My grammar is far too bad to have even considered it. Just a long-winded baseball fan who sometimes is right, and sometimes isn’t. Not much different than anybody else here, just type more.
I’m trying to reduce the amount of Coca-Cola I drink. My chiropractor says the diet stuff is even worse for you. At least the fructose syrup in the regular stuff is made from some natural things. Okay, now off to drive home in this Atlanta weather. Glad I went to the grocery store earlier this afternoon so I don’t have to stop with all the crazies going in to get the requisite bread and milk that we all have to get when they say the “s” word.
The stuff in diet coke used to be used to STRIP DOWN CAR ENGINE GREASE
it is effing poison………. and I used to drink 6-10 of those Pepsi and Diet Coke things a day until I got brain cancer….. stay away it is all really evil stuff…….. drink red wine it is good for ya
Wren has made better moves than the phillies GM. Phillies system took a major loss in the Halladay trade. However, that won’t matter until 2011. For 2010, they are stronger.
I find him to be rather reasonable, intelligent, and full of humility. I think we should consider ourselves lucky that he’s here. Oh, and considerate: don’t you love how he keeps us informed when he leaves the blog EVERY time? Stupid me thought that someone had left the blog when they stopped posting. What else…aah, the quotation marks. Dude is top-shelf, if for no other reason than the quotation marks. Now stop antagonizing him; it’d be a crime shame if he left.
My chiropractor says the diet stuff is even worse for you. bravesgrl4life
I hear that all the time and I wish someone would say that and then have a solid argument as to why. I’m not saying you are wrong, but I would stop drinking Diet Coke if there were some tangible arguments as to why it is so bad for you.
The only reasonable argument I have heard is that the artificial sweetener causes your body to crave the real thing – more sugar.
N8,I will give you one compliment and it will be your last one, when I first came on the blog, I wondered who this long winded cuss is? After reading for a few weeks, I learned to appreciate what you post. You are on my top 5 posters, don’t screw it up!
You will all be wearing Melky Mustaches when the season starts, and Wren for President signs will flood Turner Field. He’s a good ballplayer and will be a good fit for this team.
I can’t believe all the negativity.
Is it baseball season yet? What is taking so long?
HomeofdaBrave (January 7th, 2010 4:53 pm)
“How is it that Wren has done less than Amaro?”
Amaro and the Phillies:
3 straight division titles
2 NL championships
1 WS championship
And are on their way to a couple of more.
While Wren has:
Saved money
Amaro took over after the WS championship, in November of 2008. Last season was his first. So, yeah, he inherited a championship team that went out and won 1 more game than the year before. I believe the team also added $30MM to the payroll following that championship.
Wren inherited a third place team, and in his second year they won 14 more games than the previous season. He’s drastically upgraded the rotation and offense the last two years. You know, with a payroll about $40MM less than the Phillies last year.
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tiger297
January 7th, 2010
4:01 pm
brekky was that the trip this year an attempt to get her into liking ATL?
Tom Waits wears Redwing boots
January 7th, 2010
4:01 pm
Lentz-
Please explain how going 10-8 against the Fillies is misleading. It is what it is. The braves went 10-8 against the Fillies in 2009. PERIOD
.P.a.u.l .L.e.n.t.z
January 7th, 2010
4:01 pm
N8…….”the difference between 5-4 and 6-6″?
Here’s the “difference”: You stated in an earlier post that the Braves went 10-8 against the Phillies………I replied that the 10-8 record was misleading because while going 7-2 against them in the first half, we faltered in the second half by going 3-6 against them when the games became more important in the play-off chase…………then you counted by saying that “my memory didnt serve me correctly because the Braves in fact went 5-4 in the first half, 5-4 in the second half” (which was an incorrect assertion on your part).
If you dont feel that there is much of a difference between “5-4 and 6-6″…….then why did you try and correct me earlier? You are the one who started this by telling me that “my memory didnt serve me correctly” when it was plainly obvious that I was in the right here.
You slammed me for “my memory serving me correctly”…….yet you attack me when I want to correct you on it?
Pure BS from you. If you are “the first one to admit that you was wrong about something” (as you stated earlier today)….then why make a big deal of it. After all, you slammed me earlier when you thought I was wrong (which I wasnt).
That is what the “difference” is. I pointed out the fact that our overall record against the Phillies was misleading……and you slammed me for it.
cs95
January 7th, 2010
4:01 pm
N8: i must say your “sticking it to ‘em” posts are a blast to read. it almost makes me forget how much i miss baseball. I agree with you for the most part. glaus >> kotchman, glaus > laroche, mclouth > schafer, cabrera = GA, diaz > frenchy. also i think heyward can put up frenchy 2008 numbers (.250, 11HRs, 77RBIs, about). prado should be > KJ and all the other spots are similar or the same.
ncscoots
January 7th, 2010
4:02 pm
I think my VORP was recently absurbed.
DAP
January 7th, 2010
4:02 pm
think about the phillies though…you think jason werth is going to hit 36 homers again? dude had a career year. and while he is a solid player, he is due to regress. ibanez is 37 and definitely slowed at the end of last season. their pitching after halladay is questionable…hamels stunk it up last year, they have blanton who is ok but moyer is still signed…who knows what lidge will do after his worst season ever, and they got baez who is not that impressive.
the phils are a very good team (obviously) but its not like they cant be beat. they have some question marks themselves.
.P.a.u.l .L.e.n.t.z
January 7th, 2010
4:04 pm
Tom Waits wears Redwing boots………..I wasnt commenting on the “big picture” of the 162 schedule. I was commenting on N8’s comment earlier about our 10-8 record against the Phillies in 2009.
.P.a.u.l .L.e.n.t.z
January 7th, 2010
4:05 pm
Bay Area Steve………….There’s a difference between correcting someone’s grammar…..and correcting incorrect facts.
ugaaccountant
January 7th, 2010
4:05 pm
Spout about the loss of Vazquez all you want. But the TEAM only went 18-14 in his 32 starts.
Javy got screwed on the w/l record personally and team wise. No way a sub 3 era and 200+ innings pitched should lead to a team record of 18-14. He wasn’t wildly erratic either with a bunch of shutouts and blowouts. Would have been nice for him to get rewarded with better run support, but all his luck apparently flowed to Lowe.
Next year Javy’s era and w’s probably both increase a lot.
Next year Lowe’s w’s hopefully at least the same but with a much lower ERA.
McFann O
January 7th, 2010
4:06 pm
“Absurbed”…Hoo-hoo! Sounds a bit naughty, doesn’t it?
Tomahawkin
January 7th, 2010
4:06 pm
Nova Scotia Steve
“Tomahawkin – “And I’m already having nightmares of seeing Wagner against Utley and Howard in the 9th innings, Aren’t there pills you can take for that?”
Great post man…and yes there are pills for that…the only problem is i took them all after we signed Saito.
I let ya know if i find anymore”
LOL Yeah watching those matchups of Wagner aganst Pujols, Howard, or Utley in the 9th innings of this season is probably gonna make break out the Southern Comfort, And I’m not even a Whiskey drinker…
Tom Waits wears Redwing boots
January 7th, 2010
4:06 pm
Lentz-
Twice rain delayed game, Hanson v. Pedro late in season. Hansen was about to roll and Pedro escaped 2 bases loaded jams. No rain and the Braves are 4-5 and who knows waht happens in game 3 of that series. When I guy starts debating the value of wins (whenever they occur), it becomes time to end the conversation.
GatorBrave
January 7th, 2010
4:07 pm
Tell you what fans,
I’ll be glad to come back to this blog when/if the braves prove me wrong come September. I’ll even appologize to the Mr.tight underwear DOB and everything. Sorry Dave, you just don’t seem like a laid back feller and I have to rib you a little. You deserve it. Good blog you’ve put up here, I just don’t care much for you.
CB
January 7th, 2010
4:08 pm
Is there a possibility nobody really cares about who is right between Paul and N8? Not even a remote possibility?
THE BEAR Illegitimi non carborundum
January 7th, 2010
4:08 pm
As a member of the older generation one thing that bugs the hell out of me is the constant griping, bitching, moaning, groaning and general negative crap that flows onto these pages on a regular basis.
What makes you particularly annoying is that you generally come from the same group of bloggers. No matter what Frank Wren does he gets nailed by the same bunch of BS venders and it is never ending. The man can do nothing right, no matter what the hell he does.
And no matter what David O’Brien says or does the same cotiere is sitting there waiting for the chance to jump his case. If you don’t like the way David runs this blog why don’t you just take a walk and leave it to those who want to talk baseball, music and barbecue? Your constant bitching has long since grown old.
Many years ago I reached the conclusion that a positive outlook provides a helluva lot better chance of success in life than does a negative outlook. I have seldom found constant gripers sitting on top of the world. Look at yourselves and see if you don’t agree that you could do better. It would be appreciated by a lot of people.
For DOB; just keep doing what you do better than anyone else I have found, provide the information and interchange ideas with us. The positive ones appreciate you. The others don’t matter.
.P.a.u.l .L.e.n.t.z
January 7th, 2010
4:08 pm
Tom Waits wears Redwing boots……..here is how a 10-8 record against a team is “misleading”:
First half of the season we went 7-2 against the Phillies, yet we were still behind them in the standings.
However in the second half (when we were supposedly playing better), we went 3-6 against the Phillies…….when we were battling to make up ground on them and the Rockies.
In other words, it was a tale of two halves when it came to how we played the Phillies. That is how a 10-8 record against a team can be considered “misleading”.
David O'Brien
January 7th, 2010
4:08 pm
DAP: My heart’s fine (knock on wood). Other than too much caffeine, I try to follow a pretty good diet and stay away from the press dining-room type of fare. And I actually don’t drink much soda at all, maybe one a day, tops. And sweet tea only in restaurants that serve it, which means mostly just when I’m here in Atlanta, not in the cities the Braves travel to.
But I am addicted entirely to coffee. No question. And never decaf. Ever.
ugaaccountant
January 7th, 2010
4:08 pm
Tom Waits wears Redwing boots
January 7th, 2010
3:56 pm
ugaaccountant-
Halladay lifetime vs Braves and KK 0-1
Yeah, but if I recall correctly he went 8 innings and gave up 2 runs? It’s not like we “owned” him.
Daniel
January 7th, 2010
4:09 pm
daslied- Yeah, I got it. I enjoy that one as well
Tom Waits: I think DOB and I are on the same page. Also, if you haven’t heard Bon Iver’s “For Emma, Forever ago” given your tastes, I think you would love it. Sad, beautiful, haunting….
N8 and Lentz: why don’t you guys just stop all the mating dance and get a room.
Tom Waits wears Redwing boots
January 7th, 2010
4:09 pm
Lentz-
2009: Braves 10 wins, Fillies 8 wins. PERIOD
zmerk13
January 7th, 2010
4:09 pm
Hillbilly,
I completely agree with you. The voting process is somewhat of a joke. How does Segui get a vote? If you look back, how has NO ONE gotten into the hall unanimously? Its a joke. Nolan Ryan wasn’t good enough for some writers? Gehrig? Ruth? Williams? It seems like a ton of writers don’t go about their thought process the right way.
Who am I to talk about the right way? But I just feel like there is no way to justify not voting for the top ring of players.
ncscoots
January 7th, 2010
4:10 pm
Absurbed”…Hoo-hoo! Sounds a bit naughty, doesn’t it?
And flexible in its usage. Could be “That notion is absurbed”, as in foolish; or “The spill was absurbed by the paper towel”. A little two-way action on the blogism, which, of course, gets it extra credit.
One more good thing about the blog: the knowledge that can be absurbed, even from posts (and posters) that are absurbed.
Tom Waits wears Redwing boots
January 7th, 2010
4:10 pm
Gator Brave-
Don’t bother, you will not be missed.
Tomahawkin
January 7th, 2010
4:12 pm
Daniel
Your Quote
“N8 and Lentz: why don’t you guys just stop all the mating dance and get a room.”
That was cold!
ugaaccountant
January 7th, 2010
4:13 pm
“THE BEAR Illegitimi non carborundum
Many years ago I reached the conclusion that a positive outlook provides a helluva lot better chance of success in life than does a negative outlook. I have seldom found constant gripers sitting on top of the world.”
Guess you must have a very poor opinion of the current state of affairs in politics and news then. Everything that’s done is with a negative spin and outlook.
Daslied
January 7th, 2010
4:13 pm
ncscoots
I think my VORP was recently absurbed.
Lucky.
ncscoots
January 7th, 2010
4:13 pm
probably gonna make break out the Southern Comfort, And I’m not even a Whiskey drinker…
Obviously not, or you wouldn’t refer to Southern Comfort as such.
cabravesfan
January 7th, 2010
4:14 pm
dogsbrekky-
Is your wife Australian also? It shouldn’t be very difficult to convince her she would like Southern California- just show her the winter weather reports
(maybe theses will help? They were all taken in Corona del Mar on Christmas Eve…)
http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy15/uscfox/christmas/dec24sunset.jpg
http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy15/uscfox/christmas/dec24beach1.jpg
http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy15/uscfox/christmas/dec24beach2.jpg
McFann O
January 7th, 2010
4:14 pm
ncscoots “The spill was absurbed by the paper towel”
One more good thing about the blog: the knowledge that can be absurbed, even from posts (and posters) that are absurbed.
That is very true.
Hillbilly
January 7th, 2010
4:14 pm
zmerk13,
Agreed. Some writers have this mindset that if Ruth didn’t get in unanimously nobody will, and that’s a chicken-$### way to go about it. If there’s one voter that thinks Greg Maddux shouldn’t get in on the first ballot, he should be fired. Period. Same goes for Griffey and Randy Johnson. Asses kicked and voting rights revoked. It’s ridiculous.
Slowhiteguy
January 7th, 2010
4:15 pm
DOB, have you tried the Keurig coffee machine? Its essentially a single serve coffee maker..really cool, and offers a ton of coffee choices via tiny single serve packages. I have no idea how it works, but the coffee is really good.
GatorBrave
January 7th, 2010
4:15 pm
Bear and Tom Waits Redwing, yeah, yeah. Looks like any difference of opinion gives you two high blood pressure. Sucking up to O’Brien won’t receive you a check in the mail.
.P.a.u.l .L.e.n.t.z
January 7th, 2010
4:15 pm
Daniel…………..Dude, it’s clear I’m the one in the right here. Just look at the stats.
Also, when N8 slammed me for “my memory not serving me correctly”……am I supposed to just let it slide? Yet when I’m wrong about something, the blog fills up posts that are quick to correct me.
I’m ok with being “corrected”……however I’m not going to sit here and not return the favor. I’m not some bytch who meekly accepting domestic violence as a prerequisite for being able to blog.
N8 was wrong to correct me. He incorrectly slammed me, yet he wants to make a big deal when I didnt take it lying down.
Tom Waits wears Redwing boots
January 7th, 2010
4:16 pm
Lentz-
So what are you saying? Since the 10 wins the Braves got are misleading, we should return 2 to 4 wins back to the Fillies in order to prove your point. Well then OK, the Braves should have gone 8-10 against the Fillies. Does this make you feel better?
McFann O
January 7th, 2010
4:17 pm
Yeah, but if I recall correctly he went 8 innings and gave up 2 runs?
No, now, ugaaccountant, be fair…
…
…he only gave up one run…
im4ball
January 7th, 2010
4:17 pm
I am not sure citing the past has much to do with the future. What the Braves did or did not do against the Phillies or any other team last year doesn’t mean they are going to do the same this year.
Most line-ups are not the same as they were and players can have off or great years. Case in point is Chipper. Last year was a complete abberation for Chipper and while it could mean decline in his skills, who is to say that? Who can predict the future? Who can say that Howard won’t have a bad year or get hurt? no one.
Stats have their place in finding out generally how a player plays but they do not have a place in determing how a team is going to do in the coming year…especially when they havent even started spring training.
.P.a.u.l .L.e.n.t.z
January 7th, 2010
4:18 pm
got to run. be back in a little while.
GatorBrave
January 7th, 2010
4:19 pm
By the way, I said I appreciated positivity, but I aprreciate honesty more. Besides, we’re talking about a baseball team here, not a person suffering from a life threatening disease. Think there’s a difference?
Hillbilly
January 7th, 2010
4:19 pm
Where’s Homer when you need him?
FIRE THE DUDE THAT VOTED FOR SEGUI…AND KARROS!
Tom Waits wears Redwing boots
January 7th, 2010
4:20 pm
Lentz-
You see the problem is, they don’t reverse games in MLB. Too bad for Bowden the NCAA has not adopted a similar policy.
Mike in Smyrna
January 7th, 2010
4:20 pm
Nick,
Predicting the Braves finish last in the NL east is completely asinine. I am not putting my money on them to win the division but worst case scenario they finish 3rd. There is no way the Nationals or Mets have a better record than the Braves.
Macon Braves (RIP)
January 7th, 2010
4:21 pm
Good grief, will ya’ll stop responding to that blabbering idiot…my scroll button is getting tired.
GatorBrave
January 7th, 2010
4:21 pm
Paul Lentz, no don’t come back. I don’t like you either. At least not as a blogger. You’re more annoying to me than I probably am to DOB,Bear and that Tom Waits guy.
ugaaccountant
January 7th, 2010
4:24 pm
Greg Maddux should get 100% of the vote. Whatever possible standard you use to look at him, he should get in.
His pitching stats are among the best ever. Especially his ERA compared to his peers.
He was the best defensively at his position.
He even swung a credible stick.
His longevity was there.
And in an era marred by spoiled or juiced players, nobody would possibly think that of him.
Whoever doesn’t vote for him should be publicly mocked by every media outlet.
benchwarmer
January 7th, 2010
4:24 pm
L.E.N.T.Z.. are you really kidding? come on you’re kidding aren’t you! Aren’t you?
monty
January 7th, 2010
4:27 pm
Alot of the Brave’s success last year(going on memory, which is a dangerous thing)was in getting 2 out rallies/hits/scoring. (perhaps someone can confirm that or not and how it related to the rest of the league). I believe the 2010 version will win 88-92 games. But, if much of their good work was done with 2 outs last season (which may be statisticly unsustainable again in 2010), then perhaps last year’s team overachieved in that sense. Just curious.
Like N8 said, “if Chipper can be Chipper”, and I believe just as important can McCann make the next step toward super-star status if his eyes are right without glasses? If everything else being equal then this team should win 4-7 games more than last year’s, if they can score with 2 outs again.
HomeofdaBrave
January 7th, 2010
4:27 pm
Phillies
Mets
Marlins/Braves
Braves/Marlins
Nationals
The little homers might as well get used to this, every single baseball “expert”/magazine/etc. is going to pick it exactly like this.
And to whoever said they’d wager on the Braves winning 90 games, hell, I’d take that bet. They may win more than 75, but they’re not getting to 90. That’s just being realist.
N8
January 7th, 2010
4:27 pm
(sigh)
HomeofdaBrave
January 7th, 2010
4:28 pm
“realistic”
wjones
January 7th, 2010
4:29 pm
Hillbilly
“January 7th, 2010
4:14 pm
zmerk13,
Agreed. Some writers have this mindset that if Ruth didn’t get in unanimously nobody will, and that’s a chicken-$### way to go about it. If there’s one voter that thinks Greg Maddux shouldn’t get in on the first ballot, he should be fired. Period. Same goes for Griffey and Randy Johnson. Asses kicked and voting rights revoked. It’s ridiculous.”
I agree. And what these bozos don’t realize is that it’s comparing apples to oranges. Ruth, Cobb, Wagner, Walter Johnson and Mathewson were the first class, and they were up against every player in history, since no one was in yet. They were originally going to put players in from pre 1900 and post 1900, but none of the pre 1900 people got enough votes. That’s the big reason Cy Young didn’t make it the first year–it wasn’t made clear which group he belonged to, and he didn’t get enough votes on either side, though his total vote would have put him in (pretty stupid, huh?). Even saying all of that, if you have a ballot with 10 spaces, how could you leave off Cobb, Ruth, or Wagner? Or Young? Or Johnson? Beats me. But it’s slightly more defensible than the idiots who didn’t vote for Mays or Aaron.
I have often thought that they should do the HOF ballot like the MVP ballot, to encourage that each slot be filled. In other words, rank your ten players, like the MVP votes. So your first place person gets more shares than your 10th place person, and the 10th place person has a harder time getting in. No one sends in partial or blank MVP votes, because they can rank them, and they know if they vote Martin Prado 10th, it won’t carry the same weight as voting Albert Puhols first. Anyway, that’s just my theory.
MZ
January 7th, 2010
4:31 pm
I like beer
abwright
January 7th, 2010
4:32 pm
GatorBrave, January 7th, 2010, 4:19 pm … “I said I appreciated positivity, … we’re talking about a baseball team here, not a person suffering from a life threatening disease. Think there’s a difference?”
Not really. You either have a positive outlook, or you don’t. If you apply negative thinking (i.e., Braves are going to suck), you reinforce that behaviour. When you try to switch over to positive thinking, you discover that it is not your natural response, and you have to relearn the positive response.
More importantly, when you are under stress, you will always revert to the behaviours with which you are most comfortable. In other words, those that you practice most frequently.
ernesto
January 7th, 2010
4:32 pm
Big off season additions: Glaus, Cabrera, Hinske, Saito, Wagner
Subtractions: LaRoche, KJ, Gonzo, Soriano, Vazquez, Anderson
The Braves might have shuffled a few steps forward, backwards or to the side…but that certainly doesn’t look like a big step forward.
Maybe not carrying a Woodcrap or Corky will add a few W’s. Maybe not wasting a large chunks of our pinch hitting opps on Norton will add a W. Maybe not wasting so many ABs waiting for KJ or Frenchy to “come around” will be good for a few Ws.
That’s about the only way I see the Braves improving this year.
AustinBrave
January 7th, 2010
4:33 pm
David- I’m addicted to caffine also. I have read lately that caffine is good for you. A report in Yahoo Health yesterday stated caffine as one of the top 9 products that helped you keep weight off and is good for you. Here is the link http://health.yahoo.com/experts/eatthis/41903/top-weight-loss-foods-for-2010/
Tom Waits wears Redwing boots
January 7th, 2010
4:34 pm
Why has everyone bought into the media machine in Filly? I’m telling you, this team is not deep, they have as many “Ifs” as the Braves and trading for Halladay to replace Lee is insignificant because they are both great pitchers. What they did was weaken their Farm in all this phaldaroll. Fillie Phaldaroll! We still have Shafer, Heyward, Freeman, Hanson, Teheran and added the Yankees best pitching prospect, the Yankees best pitching prospect!!! The Fillies lost their best OF prospect in Taylor and their best pitching prospect in Drabek. How is it that Wren has done less than Amaro?
BravoMan
January 7th, 2010
4:35 pm
The main thing that we’ve acquired this off season that benefits a team of “Ifs” is versatility. We obtained a switch-hitting 4th OF that can play every OF position and has good speed, we signed a veteran bench player that can play corner OF spots, 3B, and 1B. And finally we signed a first basemen that originally played 3B. If anyone goes down then an adequate defender will replace them. The same could be said for the bullpen in signing a former closer in Saito to back-up Wagner.
Versatility is a powerful tool that we possess on this team along with having no glaring weakness and an above average pitching staff.
Macon Braves (RIP)
January 7th, 2010
4:36 pm
Sorry, that last post came off a bit rude, let me rephrase it…
Will ya’ll PLEASE stop responding to and inciting the blabbering idiot…my scroll button is wearing out.
Mike in Smyrna
January 7th, 2010
4:36 pm
HomeofdaBrave,
What do the mets have that would allow them to finish 2nd in their division? They simply dont have the pitching.
OCHOLOCOBRAVOS
January 7th, 2010
4:36 pm
@ GatorBrave
“I aprreciate positivity, I really do. But, come on, we’re counting on Chipper Jones to once again carry the offense.”
I’m not trying to throw everything you’re saying under the bus here, but I don’t think this is entirely the case. Yes the Braves are counting on 10 to pick up his game and bounce back from lastyears offensive nightmare, but I don’t think Wren or Cox are neccessarily counting on him to “carry the offense” – I think weight is gradually starting to build on McCann’s shoulders to carry that responsibility, he’s proven in the last 4 years he’s up to the challenge.
That being said, I don’t think going into 2010 that we’re looking for 1 player inparticular to offensively carry the team – we just need everyone in uniform to help out the team in some way, shape or form. We can’t have 2/3 of the OF sucking at the plate. We can’t have a perennial all-star 2b playing like a high schooler. We can’t have our young hot shot SS thinking he has to make every play look fancier than the last, We can’t have 1/2 year of solid production & 1/2 year of small ball from our 1B… We need EVERYONE to contribute, thats how this team is built. We don’t have A-Rod, Tex, and Swisher in our lineup – we don’t have 40HR guys that can just mash when another guy goes down, or the luxury of having Pujols & Holliday hitting back 2 back.
Jim
January 7th, 2010
4:39 pm
Dave:
Stats re Hinske are surprisingly good. I had never heard he was on juice, and likely not in any case in ROY year in ‘02. He clearly hits RHP very well, and if that skill is present in ST, then he should see some game time.
As a former coffee and sugared coke drinker, I can tell you life is better with just the Diet stuff (w/caffeine). Stomach feels much better, and we all eat too much sugar. As we pass 40, we need to get down to no liquid calories, at least most days, and <100 carbs a day. You will feel much, much better.
Good blog.
ernesto
January 7th, 2010
4:42 pm
Maddux should go in unanimously. The Unit should go in unanimously…but they won’t, b/c there’s always someone who has this “if Ruth (or substitute other legend’s name) didn’t go in unanimously no one should”
And that’s just silly – the argument isn’t that they don’t belong, it’s they don’t merit a historical vote.
N8
January 7th, 2010
4:42 pm
This was in my post to Lentz at 3:10….
“Sorry for missing the early August series in which they went 1-2 against the Phillies. I added up backwards off the schedule and missed that series, which gave me the 5-4 number, which made me assume that the first half was also 5-4.
But yes. You’re right. Down the stretch, the Braves went 3-6 against them. So yeah. If you’re counting the late June series that we swept them in, then yeah. They wen’t 7-2 earlier in the year, and 3-6 after that. But if you read my post, it clearly stated AFTER June 28th. So I was off by a frickin’ game. Thanks for correcting me.”
This is a recent post by Dentz….
“Yet he so “elegantly” stated that he is the “first to admit when he is wrong”.
What a joke, lol.”
I’m not debating with that dumbass anymore. He just doesn’t comprehend the English language very well. I clearly stated, that I INITIALLY MADE A MISTAKE by missing the early August series in which we lost 2 or 3 games. Which made my initial assessment of 5-4 against the Phillies after JUNE 28TH (which was the date I stated in my initial post – not 1st half/2nd half like Dentz has used), WRONG. WHICH I ADMITED TO.
By default of me taking 5 from 10 and 4 from 8 (we went 10-8 overall against the Phillies), I came up with a remaining record of 5-4. So I initially scoffed at Dentz’s idea of 7-2 in the “first half”. Simple math. Simple math mistake.
So, as I copied and pasted above, I apologized to him for my mistake.
To which he now CONTINUES to post how I’m a liar for stating I’m the first to apologize.
I’m done talking TO HIM. But that won’t stop me from talkin ABOUT him. He’s a dumbass. Ignore him.
But thanks for your suggestion, Daniel, if I’m ever looking for a form of self torture, I’ll be sure and consider getting a room with sir-Dentz.
Anybody else out there want to claim I don’t admit when I’m wrong after the fact or apologize when finding so? I’d like to think that while I’m a little over the top, I’m a standup blogger.
Lets have a blog vote out of bordem. Who’s “right” Dentz or me? I’m not talking about the 7-2 / 3-6 BS. I’ve already admitted he was right and I was wrong. I’m purely wanting to know who thinks I have a right to be annoyed by him accusing me of not apologizing and/or admitting I was wrong?
In other words, who thinks Dentz is a douche?
Mike in Smyrna
January 7th, 2010
4:44 pm
Jim,
I had not heard of Hinske doing PEDs either but if he had 02 was right in the middle of when the problem had peaked. If he had done them that was probably the year. He really hasn’t matched his totals since then in any category.
THE BEAR Illegitimi non carborundum
January 7th, 2010
4:44 pm
ugaaccountant
January 7th, 2010
4:13 pm
“THE BEAR Illegitimi non carborundum
Many years ago I reached the conclusion that a positive outlook provides a helluva lot better chance of success in life than does a negative outlook. I have seldom found constant gripers sitting on top of the world.”
ugaaccountant
Guess you must have a very poor opinion of the current state of affairs in politics and news then. Everything that’s done is with a negative spin and outlook.
—————-
It is indeed a very poor situation when virtually all we can get over the news outlets (all of them) these days easily fits into the negative category. And yes, I also get tired of that. Don’t you?
I will readily admit I enjoyed success in the business world before our current economic situation came crashing down on us. However, facing reality about economics or politics is something I do on a regular basis, in my real world of investing or on my own blog. And I have been doing so successfully for ten years with that blog. Even with that we don’t spend our time attacking each other.
This blog however is an entirely different story. The rules here are “NO POLITICS”. To sit there and spin your wheels with a constant barrage of negative crap about baseball is silly. But if that is what cranks your tractor I guess you have every right to do so even knowing it is a drag on most who read the drivel.
I still will stick with the positive regardless of what you write. It is the way I choose to live my life.
Frank Robinson (Rockmart)
January 7th, 2010
4:47 pm
I’m a never decaf kind of guy, too. But I can’t come close to your 8 cups a day routine. 4 is max for me. I do prefer a dark roast, though. Like Tarantino said “I buy the gourmet expensive stuff because when I drink it I want to taste it.”
Tom Waits wears Redwing boots
January 7th, 2010
4:49 pm
N8-
Since I’ve been reading your posts, you’ve never been wrong, at least in knowledge and intent. We all exaggerate a little to make the point. Well maybe not you, you don’t need to, but I do. You’re points are well thought out and well supported. Were you an English major with a minor in Baseball History?
Frank Robinson (Rockmart)
January 7th, 2010
4:50 pm
Damn Lentz! Why couldn’t you have left before quittin’ time. You’ve been clogging the blogpaths all afternoon. Now that I’m leaving so are you. Oh well, maybe you won’t be back tomorrow.
cs95
January 7th, 2010
4:50 pm
NL east prediction:
phillies
mets (if they can get some pitching)/braves
mets/braves
nats (i think they are much improved: strasberg (sp?), marquis, capps, etc)
marlins (the marlins haven’t improved yet and have lost nick johnson, gload, and either uggla or canta.
i think the mets and braves are pretty equal with the braves having the edge in pitching and the mets having the edge in offense. needless to say this will be a monster division, 2nd to only the AL east.
Tom Waits wears Redwing boots
January 7th, 2010
4:52 pm
N8-
Like I told Lentz, if you want to argue the merits of wins at certain points of a 162 games season, then I’m dumbfounded. I can’t rationalize the irrational.
HomeofdaBrave
January 7th, 2010
4:53 pm
“How is it that Wren has done less than Amaro?”
Amaro and the Phillies:
3 straight division titles
2 NL championships
1 WS championship
And are on their way to a couple of more.
While Wren has:
Saved money
Macon Braves (RIP)
January 7th, 2010
4:53 pm
N8—I think you can guess my vote…Dentz is a blabbering idiot.
That’s why I scroll past any posts he makes, usually anyway though somtimes I find myself asking for the punishment of reading his blabbering, “I’m always right and everyone else are morons” posts when I’m bored and edgy. Though thankfully someone will bring me back to the light and remind me to start using my scroll button again.
The boy would argue with a stop sign.
Steve from OH
January 7th, 2010
4:54 pm
“In other words, who thinks Dentz is a douche?”
[Raises hand]
Seymour
January 7th, 2010
4:54 pm
Bear- well said.
Andrew in PA
January 7th, 2010
4:54 pm
I am excited to see what heyward can do
abwright
January 7th, 2010
4:54 pm
Frank Robinson (Rockmart), January 7th, 2010, 4:50 pm … “Oh well, maybe you won’t be back tomorrow.”
I think even the sunniest, most positive person in the world could not look at that statement with any optimism.
N8
January 7th, 2010
4:56 pm
“Were you an English major with a minor in Baseball History?” Tom Waits
Thanks for your kind words, but not even close my friend. My grammar is far too bad to have even considered it. Just a long-winded baseball fan who sometimes is right, and sometimes isn’t. Not much different than anybody else here, just type more.
Seymour
January 7th, 2010
4:57 pm
Abwright- that’s ridiculous. I may not be here tomorrow, but that is not really a cause for concern. I may not be here, but I’ll be somewhere.
Frank Robinson (Rockmart)
January 7th, 2010
4:57 pm
abwright,
Indeed it is merely a pipe dream…
Goodnight all, and here’s hoping for a 1/2 foot of snow on the ground. Or at least some icy roads…
CB
January 7th, 2010
4:57 pm
N8,I vote you are the douche for carrying on that conversation with him.
bravesgrl4life
January 7th, 2010
4:57 pm
I’m trying to reduce the amount of Coca-Cola I drink. My chiropractor says the diet stuff is even worse for you. At least the fructose syrup in the regular stuff is made from some natural things. Okay, now off to drive home in this Atlanta weather. Glad I went to the grocery store earlier this afternoon so I don’t have to stop with all the crazies going in to get the requisite bread and milk that we all have to get when they say the “s” word.
N8
January 7th, 2010
4:58 pm
“The boy would argue with a stop sign.” Macon
Too funny. I’ve never heard that phrase before. Almost made me spit my DIET DR. PEPPER on my monitor. Nicely done.
Unfortunately, about once every month or so, I’m dumb enough to converse with him as well. Guess that makes me the moron.
Tom Waits wears Redwing boots
January 7th, 2010
5:00 pm
HomeofdaBrave-
Well put for someone who replaces English with “ofda”. Sounds a little like “uh-duh” whats for dinner ma?
N8
January 7th, 2010
5:00 pm
Thanks CB. I deserve it and concur. I apologize. Oh wait. I don’t do that. Never mind.
AustinBrave
January 7th, 2010
5:02 pm
Is it snowing there in Atlanta? My son lives in Newnan and I can’t get a hold of him.
dogsbrekky
January 7th, 2010
5:02 pm
The stuff in diet coke used to be used to STRIP DOWN CAR ENGINE GREASE
it is effing poison………. and I used to drink 6-10 of those Pepsi and Diet Coke things a day until I got brain cancer….. stay away it is all really evil stuff…….. drink red wine it is good for ya
Tom Waits wears Redwing boots
January 7th, 2010
5:04 pm
N8-
Like me, When they stay healthy and perform like they have in the past, it’s easy. But, there’s no crying in Baseball, especially over injuries.
ugaaccountant
January 7th, 2010
5:04 pm
Wren has made better moves than the phillies GM. Phillies system took a major loss in the Halladay trade. However, that won’t matter until 2011. For 2010, they are stronger.
Bay Area Steve
January 7th, 2010
5:04 pm
Sorry, N8…gotta side with PL on this one.
I find him to be rather reasonable, intelligent, and full of humility. I think we should consider ourselves lucky that he’s here. Oh, and considerate: don’t you love how he keeps us informed when he leaves the blog EVERY time? Stupid me thought that someone had left the blog when they stopped posting. What else…aah, the quotation marks. Dude is top-shelf, if for no other reason than the quotation marks. Now stop antagonizing him; it’d be a crime shame if he left.
BuzzMeat
January 7th, 2010
5:06 pm
Roll Tide for tonight everyone!!!
keylargo
January 7th, 2010
5:07 pm
My chiropractor says the diet stuff is even worse for you. bravesgrl4life
I hear that all the time and I wish someone would say that and then have a solid argument as to why. I’m not saying you are wrong, but I would stop drinking Diet Coke if there were some tangible arguments as to why it is so bad for you.
The only reasonable argument I have heard is that the artificial sweetener causes your body to crave the real thing – more sugar.
ernesto
January 7th, 2010
5:08 pm
Buzzmeat. – Hells yeah! RTR
Tom Waits wears Redwing boots
January 7th, 2010
5:09 pm
BuzzMeat-
I got money on the Tide. Hope they win by at least 5 so I can parlay wild card weekend. I like the Ravens minus Welker, anybody?
tiger297
January 7th, 2010
5:09 pm
austinbrave…some flurries but nothing stuck…at least not that I’ve seen down in the PTC/Newnan area which is where I am
CB
January 7th, 2010
5:10 pm
N8,I will give you one compliment and it will be your last one,
when I first came on the blog, I wondered who this long winded cuss is? After reading for a few weeks, I learned to appreciate what you post. You are on my top 5 posters, don’t screw it up!
Bobby's Cox
January 7th, 2010
5:10 pm
You will all be wearing Melky Mustaches when the season starts, and Wren for President signs will flood Turner Field. He’s a good ballplayer and will be a good fit for this team.
I can’t believe all the negativity.
Is it baseball season yet? What is taking so long?
Tom Waits wears Redwing boots
January 7th, 2010
5:11 pm
I just figure without Welker, Ravens LBs are less responsible and able to free lance more. Anybody?
Daslied
January 7th, 2010
5:12 pm
HomeofdaBrave (January 7th, 2010 4:53 pm)
“How is it that Wren has done less than Amaro?”
Amaro and the Phillies:
3 straight division titles
2 NL championships
1 WS championship
And are on their way to a couple of more.
While Wren has:
Saved money
Amaro took over after the WS championship, in November of 2008. Last season was his first. So, yeah, he inherited a championship team that went out and won 1 more game than the year before. I believe the team also added $30MM to the payroll following that championship.
Wren inherited a third place team, and in his second year they won 14 more games than the previous season. He’s drastically upgraded the rotation and offense the last two years. You know, with a payroll about $40MM less than the Phillies last year.
BAMABRAVE
January 7th, 2010
5:12 pm
ROLL TIDE!!
N8
January 7th, 2010
5:13 pm
“You are on my top 5 posters, don’t screw it up!” CB
Thanks, CB. I’ll do my best. LOL
Mitchie-san
January 7th, 2010
5:15 pm
“Is it snowing where any of you Braves fans are?”
Nope.