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Tom O'Hawke
January 4th, 2010
7:38 pm
“She is not a big Brady fan, either…
cab – what up? Why no Brady?”
Soph, I’m thinking that Favre and Brady have been really tough on her 49ers. It’s probably just a matter of time before Aaron Rogers is on her “pooplist”, also.
cabravesfan
January 4th, 2010
7:41 pm
Tom-
Not even sure the 49ers have played Brady…but I don’t like him more because I think he is kinda a whiny b*tch
nolie
January 4th, 2010
7:42 pm
personally think the upgrade from McLouth to Damon at leadoff would be greater than the upgrade from Escobar to Player X in the 6-hole, considering the likely options for Player X at this point. RC
what upgrade? take his numbers away from NYY and there is no significant upgrade. plus he is old enough to hit the wall at any minute
Voice from the past... (VOR)
January 4th, 2010
7:43 pm
but their [Johnny Damon and Luke Scott] offensive numbers are very similar and Scott makes a lot less money
Dude’s right. They are. But he is another #6 hitter and the Braves are a team full of #6 hitters. Still, can’t argue the numbers…
Soph
January 4th, 2010
7:43 pm
I think you’re right, Tom. Come on cab, what did Brady ever do to you?
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January 4th, 2010
7:45 pm
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Tom O'Hawke
January 4th, 2010
7:46 pm
re: Damon
“what upgrade? take his numbers away from NYY and there is no significant upgrade. plus he is old enough to hit the wall at any minute” —- nolie
Thank you!
jeffrey d
January 4th, 2010
7:46 pm
idfan:maybe ready to see Iowa bet Tech up
I think we all are
jeffrey d
January 4th, 2010
7:46 pm
Oh and Soph, you’re in this week’s crossword puzzle (I hope)..”Next year’s juniors”
Soph
January 4th, 2010
7:49 pm
Hey, I’d like to see Tech win.
Oh and Soph, you’re in this week’s crossword puzzle (I hope)
Sweet! I’ve never been in a crossword puzzle before.
Marko
January 4th, 2010
7:50 pm
Pet Peeve:
When people list out a starting lineup, as if it is the lineup card that Bobby Cox will hand to the umpire before the game.
Why do you list a lineup on this blog??
Braves fans know who we have and don’t have. It’s not like we are accidently going to figure jeff francoeur as one of our OF and batting 6th.
So if you are figuring there are non-Brave fans on here that we want to list the lineup for…
Other than SS, 3B & C, there is nothing to be proud of. Seriously, when you list Prado, McLouth, Glaus, Diaz, Melky, Infante, Shaefer, etc…. do you think that’s going to cause someone to let out a sigh of Aaawwwweeee Man, they are a force to be rekon with.
I think the only exception would be for purposes of LH, RH, or Switch hitters.
18 Wheels of Love
January 4th, 2010
7:53 pm
Paul while I do believe the hype about Damon like you say, if Glaus were to wet the bed, we would just trade for a bat I bet.
FEAR
January 4th, 2010
7:54 pm
Flair on TNA………uh oh
Wayne in Utah
January 4th, 2010
7:54 pm
Random
Do you think the Braves will trade Kawakami? Just wondering.
JEB
January 4th, 2010
7:54 pm
Between J. Damon & Jermaine Dye – I would say the Braves will sign Dye.
Hate to be the one to say this but without Jason Hayward the Braves do not have a black man on the team. Would like to say we are past those days of having to consider that …
but we are not!
jeffrey d
January 4th, 2010
7:57 pm
Nice…Boise State’s playing Journey
Canadian Braves Fan
January 4th, 2010
7:59 pm
JEB what the hell does that matter? Do you think the Braves are prejudice come on get a grip
Tom O'Hawke
January 4th, 2010
8:00 pm
Soph, there have been articles that seem to favor Brady as a better QB than Montana, for all time. I believe this could be a factor in our lady friend’s discomfort with Brady.
OldTimer
January 4th, 2010
8:00 pm
This Damon thing just might work Dave.
N8
January 4th, 2010
8:01 pm
Yeah, because a team with guys from Cuba, Japan, Puerto Rico, Curacao and how many other countries, should build it’s roster based on possible race backlash.
Great reasoning.
18 Wheels of Love
January 4th, 2010
8:01 pm
I’m inserting a Side Bar (word I learned from OJ trial)
Topic: Theo Epstein
I’ll give the kid credit, he won 2 titles.
BUT
The kid has been given license to do things other GM’s would get fired for. He eats more money and makes trades for players that he already has on his staff.
If it is true and he has signed Beltre, then he also has Lowell that is injured and untradable now that everyone knows he has an injured thumb. He signs Smoltz for 5m guaranteed and cuts him. Trades for LaRoche and then gives him to us for Kotchman and eats some of LaRoche’s salary.
Obviously ownership is cool with it, but that kid is operating on one seriously long leash!
Hey, Anthony Bourdain is in Melbourne! Yewwwwww!
cabravesfan
January 4th, 2010
8:02 pm
Tom-
BLASPHEMY!!!!
Did you not read my post?
nolie
January 4th, 2010
8:02 pm
Do you like the Firefox? Tater
Firefox is WAY better than IE. quicker, more reliable, safer
Thanagar
January 4th, 2010
8:02 pm
Got the queasy feeling they’ll sign Damon…pray it’s for one year with team option for the second.
JEB
January 4th, 2010
8:05 pm
Canadian Braves Fan,
Has nothing to do with being prejudice.
The Braves still field a lot of pressure from groups concerning this issue.
JS had to deal with this heat just a few short years ago (answering questions as to why the Braves did not have more blacks than they did).
Major league baseball (as a whole) still has to deal with this issue. They are are placing a lot of money into inner cities and other areas to recruit more blacks.
It’s a REAL issue.
That, my friend, is having a real grip on the truth to the matter.
Soph
January 4th, 2010
8:07 pm
Yup, Tom as found in Wikipedia:
Montana also had won 100 games faster than any other quarterback until surpassed by Tom Brady in 2008
It’s ok, cab. Records are meant to be broken.
jeffrey d
January 4th, 2010
8:07 pm
Got the queasy feeling they’ll sign Damon…pray it’s for one year with team option for the second.
I hope it’s for 10 years
Tom O'Hawke
January 4th, 2010
8:07 pm
“Tom-
BLASPHEMY!!!!
Did you not read my post?” —- cabravesfan
Sure I read it. I just thought that my reply was more fun! (I’m thinking that as a friend of JIm’s, he may appreciate me not aggravating you anymore.)
jeffrey d
January 4th, 2010
8:07 pm
I like Brady
AdirondackDave
January 4th, 2010
8:09 pm
Nolie — I agree with you, Damon’s not the answer. Better to hand on to the cash until a real power hitter becomes available, if that happens at all. If Schafer comes on strong in ST and Gwinnett I’d love to see him and Heyward in the same outfield. If those two are both knocking on the door by mid-June, this team should be very competitive. Keep all those low minor league arms and Freeman. The team looks to me like it’s on the rise, don’t screw it up with more aging guys if they cost us good prospects.
Soph
January 4th, 2010
8:09 pm
I like Brady
Me too. He’s a winner – right cab?
Goldenglove002
January 4th, 2010
8:10 pm
So the Mets and Red Sox are thinking about a Lowell for Castillo swap? Is it just me or does it seem like the Mets undervalue him a little bit. I mean, he puts up decent numbers for a second baseman. He walks more than he K’s, he’s good for 20 steals, hits for a pretty good AVG. His defense is a little sloppy, and he’s probably slightly overpaid at 6 mil per year, but why do they hate him so much up there?
nolie
January 4th, 2010
8:11 pm
I see we have another episode of Dave mentions somebody and all of a sudden the board goes gaga over him.
Soph
January 4th, 2010
8:11 pm
I see the Hawks are going through a little slumpy slump.
Josh
January 4th, 2010
8:12 pm
I wish this blog post had been longer.
I’d be happy with any of these guys, but my fear is that my Braves will pull their usual and not get any of ‘em and go with some untested farmguy in hopes of finding the next Andruw…the earlier incarnation, not the craptacular current version.
I guess we’ll see.
Soph
January 4th, 2010
8:13 pm
Ooh, I like that word – craptacular!
Tom O'Hawke
January 4th, 2010
8:14 pm
Venice Jim
I’m sorry for the rest of your evening and night. I hope you can, someday, forgive me.
cabravesfan
January 4th, 2010
8:14 pm
Soph-
Wins and losses have nothing to do with it
Tom-
You could never aggravate me
TexasBrave
January 4th, 2010
8:16 pm
Goldenglove002
Could it be the dropped flyball that allowed the Yankees to win?
Venice Jim
January 4th, 2010
8:16 pm
Tom O – of far more concern to me is that a 9 point William and Mary lead just fell victim to a 10-0 run…
Rob in pain from (SC)
January 4th, 2010
8:18 pm
was that Jeff Hardy on TNA?
DOB Is a Force That Gives Us Meaning
January 4th, 2010
8:19 pm
Do you like the Firefox? Tater
Firefox is WAY better than IE. quicker, more reliable, safer
Google Chrome > FireFox > Dirt > IE
Andy
January 4th, 2010
8:19 pm
Marko, I know that I made a lineup on the blog, but I am trying to stir the pot and make it known that Diaz should be considered to bat leadoff and if we acquire Damon he should bat second. You’re right that I am probably wasting my time. You know why? It’s because Bobby Cox is one of the worst managers when it comes to making a lineup. He totally ignores streaks and on base percentage. He had KJ and his terrible obp batting leadoff for way too long last season!! The problem is Bobby.
Reality Check
January 4th, 2010
8:19 pm
If Damon’s in left, maybe instead of a relay throw, he and Yunel can just run in and meet halfway and hand the ball off.
Canadian Braves Fan
January 4th, 2010
8:19 pm
JEB you originally only talked about the Braves, NOT the rest of the Majors that is my point
jeffrey d
January 4th, 2010
8:22 pm
I see the Hawks are going through a little slumpy slump.
Yep….although I didn’t know about that incident in the 2nd game against the Cavs until I read Bradley’s article.
At first I was like “eh, we just lost 2 close games to the Cavs. No shame in that.” Then we lost to the Knicks. Yow…
Rob in pain from (SC)
January 4th, 2010
8:28 pm
Boise QB likes to throw deep
Macon Braves (RIP)
January 4th, 2010
8:28 pm
N8—Thanks for correcting certain bloggers that keep harping on how there’s no “balance” to the lineup. Even if the Braves signed Damon and started nothing but lefties in the outfield there would still be balance, since the only lefty on the infield is McCann.
Guess a certain blogger isn’t always right no matter how much they think they are.
JEB
January 4th, 2010
8:28 pm
Canadian Braves Fan
I would like to say those days are past (given the fact we have a team that is loaded with all types of nationalities) but these considerations go into the choice (even with the Braves).
Tom O'Hawke
January 4th, 2010
8:29 pm
Tom-
You could never aggravate me
cabravesfan, ahhh, you are sweet. If I ever have a chance to fight Jim again, I’m gonna conceal a weapon.
Tom O – of far more concern to me is that a 9 point William and Mary lead just fell victim to a 10-0 run…
Jim, it must be nice to have that confidence with the LAdy. Apparently, your cooking is a lot better than I even imagined!
Rob in pain from (SC)
January 4th, 2010
8:29 pm
now Ric Flair is on TNA
Steve from OH
January 4th, 2010
8:30 pm
I’m a big fan of genuine courage, genuine confidence and unabashed chivalry,
Oh, you mean like calling yourself (and I quote) “better looking than you, have a prettier girl than you, am much smarter than you, and, I’m the one with the real money.”
Chivalrie at its finest, I’m sure.
“The ethical code of the knight prevalent in Medieval Europe, having such primary virtues as mercy towards the poor and oppressed, humility, honor, sacrifice, fear of God, faithfulness, courage and utmost graciousness and courtesy to ladies.”
Humility? Larry has it in spades!
jeffrey d
January 4th, 2010
8:31 pm
now Ric Flair is on TNA
Isn’t he about 80? I hope he’s still not suiting up to wrestle
floridastateseminoles
January 4th, 2010
8:32 pm
would like to know some of your thought on this
sign damon or dye
sign sheffield and another cheap bat that could produce yall call it
could this work
Rob in pain from (SC)
January 4th, 2010
8:33 pm
jeffrey d
I really don’t watch wrestling anymore, but I am curious to see what Bret Hart says.
jeffrey d
January 4th, 2010
8:34 pm
Bret Hart?? I haven’t been an avid wrestling fan for about 10 years, but I used to love Bret Hart
cabravesfan
January 4th, 2010
8:34 pm
Tom-
Concealed weapon? That sounds…
And VJ’s cooking is fantastic- although we are having ribs tonight from this great BBQ place in Venice…
Bedell
January 4th, 2010
8:35 pm
JEB, there’s the possibility that Thurston will make the roster as a utility guy.
jeffrey d
January 4th, 2010
8:35 pm
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Hogan_Vs_Flair.jpg/800px-Hogan_Vs_Flair.jpg
And we thought Bobby hung on too long. When your breasts are bigger than your escort’s, I think it’s time to call it quits.
unbelievable
January 4th, 2010
8:35 pm
2/16 for Cameron
2/14 for Damon (possible)
2/12 for Derosa
If you told me to pick one and what would serve this team the best – Derosa, Cameron, then Damon. However, Ill take Damon over Melky.
Joe D. loves Marilyn
January 4th, 2010
8:36 pm
DOB…
Any thoughts on what is going to happen with Nomar Garciaparra this winter?
Would he be available as a bench / utility / pinch hitter…for say $1M?
Or does he prefer to stay out on the west coast?
Just wondering…
BELIEVE
Rob in pain from (SC)
January 4th, 2010
8:37 pm
I love pick 6’s
The Grinch
January 4th, 2010
8:37 pm
Great 6:09, Braveheart. Butts in the seats are more important than Bobby’s eccentricities at the moment.
I like Damon better than Nady, but I still don’t think this is anything more than a smokescreen to throw us off a different deal. We’ve practically got more outfielders than we do relief pitchers; I smell a big deal comin’ down. Just too many pieces sitting around not to.
Rob in pain from (SC)
January 4th, 2010
8:38 pm
jeffrey d
Hart is hosting raw tonight
MitchC
January 4th, 2010
8:38 pm
Dave, I’m lukewarm on Damon. Yes, the guy is a decent player, but do we really need another important cog on our team who is in his late 30s? We already have 37 year old Derek Lowe as one of our top starters, and 39 year old Billy Wagner as our closer, not to mention soon to be 38 year old oft injured Chipper, as our lifer player.
I’d sooner take a chance on a Matt Diaz/ Melky Carbrea platoon, or just having one of them play left or right field.
The only way I’d do a deal for Damon is if it was for one year, with a second year option, or two years, max. Boras likes long term deals, so I doubt he’ll go for that.
Also, I dont think FW will do it.
Steve from OH
January 4th, 2010
8:38 pm
unbelievable–I’ll take Damon, Cameron, DeRosa. I don’t view DeRo’s versatility as as much of an asset as others here do, I guess. Plus, I don’t think he can play any of his defensive positions (except 3B) as well as we need.
JEB
January 4th, 2010
8:38 pm
Bedell,
That’s a good thought!
floridastateseminoles
January 4th, 2010
8:38 pm
the grinch
who you think the big deal is
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
January 4th, 2010
8:39 pm
N8, TnBrian….long time, no see.
I know some don’t like the fact that his defense has decreased……..but I’m wishing, hoping, etc, etc etc…that Wren is smart enough to know Dye would make a great last piece of the puzzle. As DOB stated….he still ended last season with 27 HR and 80-some RBI’s.
I still feel with one major bat in the lineup, (perfarrably Dye IMO) that the Braves would have what it would takes to get over the hump and into the playoffs and hopefully, the WS.
jeffrey d
January 4th, 2010
8:41 pm
Hey, TCU has a redheaded quarterback that throws interceptions too. I wonder if he’ll look like a cherry by halftime too
ryan c
January 4th, 2010
8:41 pm
i had a mancrush on damon back in his boston days. if damon grew the hair out and the beard, he would instantly put people in the stands…seriously.
Steve from OH
January 4th, 2010
8:42 pm
Eh, it was intentional, but you missed it, so whatever.
Why the need to show your intellectual dominance? Or are you compensating for something, I wonder?
Johnny In-Sane
January 4th, 2010
8:43 pm
Damn DOB. Cabrera’s not even in that lineup. It’s like Vasquez just disappeared into the ether – like my 401k – nothing for something.
Tom O'Hawke
January 4th, 2010
8:43 pm
Any thoughts on what is going to happen with Nomar Garciaparra this winter?
Would he be available as a bench / utility / pinch hitter…for say $1M?
Joe D. loves Marilyn, unfortunately, he’s represented by that Wasserman Media Group. They are the ones that represented Furcal. The Braves said that they would never deal with them again.
jeffrey d
January 4th, 2010
8:44 pm
I’ve shared it before but I’ll go ahead and say it again. One of my favorite Skip quotes was against Boston when Damon came up to bat in an extra innings.
“You know, Damon was clean shaven when the game started.”
jeffrey d
January 4th, 2010
8:45 pm
Look, goober, you’ve already exemplified to all your ignorance by spelling it “chivalrie” to I need not convict one here who is so clearly stupid they self incriminate
Huh?
jeffrey d
January 4th, 2010
8:46 pm
Guess I’m just exemplifying to all my ignorance because that doesn’t make sense to me.
TnBrian
January 4th, 2010
8:47 pm
Frank, the disgust for Dye around here is unreal, but he’s not that low list. Damon,Nady would come before Dye for me, but I bet he’s got some power left in his bat. No other team has gotten him either so it does make you wonder what’s up.
Rob in pain from (SC)
January 4th, 2010
8:51 pm
now scott hall and the 123 kid are back
Shelley Duncan signs with the Indians | The LoHud Yankees Blog
January 4th, 2010
8:52 pm
[...] Here’s an Atlanta report wondering if Johnny Damon might end up with the Braves. David O’Brien writes that Damon is [...]
jeffrey d
January 4th, 2010
8:54 pm
Out of all the gimmicks he’s had, they go with the 123 Kid tonight?
Tom O'Hawke
January 4th, 2010
8:55 pm
“I’ve shared it before but I’ll go ahead and say it again.”
jeffrey d, that’s OK. Unlike PL posts, any redundancy involving Skip Caray is always welcome!
jeffrey d
January 4th, 2010
8:56 pm
I may be wrong, but is that Napolen Dynamite playing QB for Boise?
jeffrey d
January 4th, 2010
9:00 pm
Thanks Tom. Maybe someone can help me out here….there was a real funny Skip quote from NY. The camera cuts to people entering the stadium and he makes a comment about them getting mugged or something.
Bry22
January 4th, 2010
9:01 pm
DOB- That line up would not produce 80 wins!!! As numerous sports show have said, the worst moves this off season have been made by Frank Wren and the Atlanta Braves!! The Yankee trade may be the worst trase ever for any team. Our only hope is to flip Mulkey and some others and get a real hitter.
TnBrian
January 4th, 2010
9:04 pm
Dang, Bret Hart looks alright for a 50 something guy. Especially for a former wrestler.
jeffrey d
January 4th, 2010
9:04 pm
I don’t think it was a bad trase.
ncscoots
January 4th, 2010
9:07 pm
I think DOB does this kind of blog just to feel the power coursing through his veins, LOL. Mention someone-anyone, throw out some stats, and watch the loyal denizens chow down, start frothing at the mouth, and immediately pronounce the someone-anyone as their newest bestest friend. It’s just evil, is what it is. Fun, no doubt, but evil. Johnny bleepin’ Damon. Lord have mercy.
Grinch, you dog. It was worth checking in here just to see your moniker, my friend. Made me tingly. Shoot, made me want to go check Kyle Davies’ stats, is what I’m saying. Good on ya.
.P.a.u.l .L.e.n.t.z
January 4th, 2010
9:07 pm
Macon Braves (RIP)…..As I said, if we were to sign Damon to play left field, then we would be putting ALL our hopes for power from the right side of the plate in Troy Glaus. If Glaus gets hurt or is a flop, then we will have very little power from the right side.
Matt Diaz, Yunel Escobar, Martin Prado, and Chipper Jones batting right handed………do not hit for much power. Diaz, Prado, Escobar and Chipper (from the right side) combined for 47 homers last year. That isnt much power from the right side of the plate.
When I said that signing Damon would give me reason to be concerned about our lack of balance……I guess that I should have been specific by saying “lack of balance in power from the right side of the plate”. I should have known that saying that Glaus getting hurt or being a bust would leave us with very little power from the right side of the plate…..would not be specific enough for some of you.
Rob in pain from (SC)
January 4th, 2010
9:08 pm
rename TNA – WWF/WCW
Sam The Man
January 4th, 2010
9:08 pm
FACT:
There is not one player in this proposed line-up that we can confidently say WILL have 25 HRs. That really bugs me. We need a bopper in the line-up and frankly none of the scraps on the table qualify as a bopper.
To think this team improves to the point it needs to in order to contend in the division SIMPLY by spending our last $7-$9mm is the definition of OPTIMISM.
I honestly believe we have to trade a couple of top prospects and Melkey or comprable/non-essential everyday player for a big bat whose current team then picks up a % of the salary.
Thoughts??
jeffrey d
January 4th, 2010
9:08 pm
Skip was on Married With Children?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0136023/filmoyear
Tom O'Hawke
January 4th, 2010
9:08 pm
jeffrey d, I can’t help you with that NY Skip quote, although I may have heard it at the time. What a great read it would be, if someone could make a compilation of “Skip quotes”. What’s Pete doing these days?
Random
January 4th, 2010
9:10 pm
DAP (January 4th, 2010 4:33 pm): ” ‘it is only my hunch that the Braves concluded that they would not be able to extend Vazquez at a price they were willing to pay.’
“ok, fine. if you admit that its just a hunch and there isnt any evidence of it, especially notthe laroche situation, i dont know what we are arguing about. im glad we sorted that out. “
Never said there was no evidence — that’s what hunches are based on: imperfect knowledge reasonably extrapolated. The evidence is that they traded Vazquez, and did not extend him. The reasonable extrapolation is that they would have attempted to extend before trading him.
See dogsbrekky for evidence validating the extrapolation.
And I “admitted” that my Vazquez speculation was a hunch UP-FRONT when I first made it.
But LaRoche is no hunch — it is a fact that the Braves concluded that they would not be able to sign LaRoche at a price ($/years) they were willing to pay.
Or do you think that they signed Glaus instead of LaRoche because they thought that Glaus was actually the better player? If they could have signed LaRoche to the same contract they signed Glaus to, who do you think they would have signed? Think, man, think.
jeffrey d
January 4th, 2010
9:13 pm
I had 3 or 4 Skip quotes in a Word document on my old laptop. I’ll see if I can find it.
Redstick19
January 4th, 2010
9:16 pm
DOB sure has been quiet the last several hours… something cooking?
Random
January 4th, 2010
9:16 pm
Wayne in Utah (January 4th, 2010 7:54 pm): “Do you think the Braves will trade Kawakami? Just wondering.”
Right now, I’m kinda leanin’ toward thinking kawakami will remain a Brave for the duration of his current contract.
But ask me again in half an hour — I may be thinking completely differently by then, you know.
You know, like Braveheart, with all his backtracking and flip-flopping on the issue.
Redstick19
January 4th, 2010
9:16 pm
either that… or he has a life.
AustinBrave
January 4th, 2010
9:17 pm
DOB sure has been quiet the last several hours… something cooking
Yeah dinner!!!
TnBrian
January 4th, 2010
9:18 pm
“something cooking” Redstick19
Yes. Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels buried the hatchet…. FINALLY!