5:16 pm January 4, 2010, by David O'Brien
January 5th, 20109:52 pm
Playas wanna play, Pete.
David O’Brien………..I just came across your 12:26pm post. I’ll respect your request to lay off the climate change topic.
I had some things to do today. I started where I left off last night and was commenting as I read stuff I felt compelled to respond to. I didnt see the request you made until just now.
I guess I like Huff too, he can play about anywhere and has better splits than Hinske.
oh and like john smoltz claims b4 he was divorced and needed more money and a big contract late in his career… the braves are the biggest liers in the league!
January 5th, 20109:53 pm
There was really a debate on climate change?
January 5th, 20109:54 pm
Nolie: Glaus can make up to $2.25 million in incentives in 2010 that are tied to staying off the disabled list and in the lineup, including a $250,000 bonus if he’s on the roster 100 days. The rest of the incentives are triggered by plate appearances — $350,000 each for 400, 450 and 500 PAs, $400,000 for 550, and $550,000 for 600.
That’s $250,000 for 100 days on roster, then $350,000 more for 400 PAs, $350,000 more for 450 PAs, $350,000 more for 500 PAs, $400,000 more for 550 PAs, and $550,000 more for 600 PAs. If he gets 600 PAs, he’ll make $4 mill total, salary and incentives. If he makes 500 PAs (but less than 500) he’ll make just over $3 mill, and so on.
January 5th, 20109:55 pm
If there was then I missed it. I miss all the good stuff.
January 5th, 20109:57 pm
DOB, your post just blew my mind.
18 Wheels of Love
Three Sheets is about to start. A must watch. Not kidding.
January 5th, 20109:58 pm
Get thee to Dark Star.
Oh, I plan to…when the time comes. Actually I’m also hoping to buy season tickets this year. The only question is whether I can save enough money…
January 5th, 201010:00 pm
For those of you who say ATL is no better than they were last year, lets take a look at projected 2010 starting line-up vs 2009 original projected line-up.
CF – McLouth vs Shaffer, winner McLouth (2010)
LF – G. Anderson vs M. Diaz, winner Diaz (2010)
RF – Heyward/Cabrera vs Francoeur, winner Heyward/Cabrera (2010)
3B – no change but would be shocked if Chipper’s numbers are not better
SS- no change and expect the same production
2B – Johnson vs Prado, winner Prado (2010)
1B – Kotchman vs Glaus, Glaus can out hit kotchman with one arm (2010)
C – same, but he can see now
So the Braves improved at 5 of the 8 positions and can realistically expect better production from Chipper and McCann while Escobar stays about the same. How can anyone say this team hasn’t improved? This is a 90 win team, I dont think they overtake Philly but if you can field a 90 win team and let the other pieces fall where they may then as a GM on a limited payroll you have done your job.
January 5th, 201010:01 pm
Rumor Has It……….way to put “Wayne in Utah” in his place with your 3:08pm post. It’s great to see others on here calling him on his SHYT!
January 5th, 201010:03 pm
Now that Wren has finally come out and admitted what some of the more realistic members of this here blog suspected — limiting payroll was going to trump competing for the playoffs thos season — we can put all the Bay/Holliday/LaRoche/Damon/Dye stuff behind us and take a hard-nosed look at what the Braves remaining needs are.
At this point, I think we can fairly assume that the pitching staff is set, with some competition for the spots at the back of the ‘pen. Of the 13 non-pitchers who will make the opening day roster, there are 3 wide open positions available, depending on the plans for Heyward and/or Schafer.
If both Heyward and Schafer begin the season at Gwinnett, the Braves will need to look elsewhere for a 4th and possibly 5th OF, because Blanco and BJones are simply not the answer. Neither is the other Jones, whose minor league numbers last season are a product of where he played. He might be a candidate for the Norton PH role.
The available player best suited to the Braves’ needs is Aubrey Huff, who would provide a productive bat behind Glaus & Chipper, an absolute necessity. He can also play the corner OF spots, and should have no problem getting plenty of ABs, along with Infante.
If Conrad can hit like he did before he was sent back down (he was awful after getting recalled), he could hold down a back-up middle infield job. DHernandez doesn’t hit enough to warrant a roster spot, so the Braves may have to comb through the long list of veteran backups to fill that role.
I know a lot of you have been reluctant to accept the financial realities of this ownership group and its adherence to the bottom line, but reality bites. This is no longer Ted Turner’s team. Or even AOL/TWs.
The Braves haven’t nearly reached the level of the Pirates, Padres, Royals & Indians. But the Vazquez deal and the inability to upgrade the offense indicates that they are moving away from looking on themselves as a serious playoff contender, and have joined the ranks
of the “if everything falls into place, maybe we can get the wild card” kind of team.
Happy New Year, Braves’ fans.
January 5th, 201010:04 pm
Better Memphis band: Big Star or Lucero?
The Braves are spending as little as possible. We have become a 2nd rate team. If, If, If, If is the only thing that the Braves have in 2010.
January 5th, 201010:05 pm
January 5th, 2010
“They CAN compete with a 90 milliond dollar payroll, they did it last year.”
We didn’t compete in 2009. Not the way most people see it. Playoff bound or else you had a moderate year at best. We finished 3rd in our division. Being in the back of the wildcard race and not getting it isn’t competitive in my book.
My instincts say you’re right, but my head says wait and let this play out. Too many new pieces have to fall apart or into place to do much prognosticating.. When do pitchers and catchers report?
January 5th, 201010:06 pm
“But I get on here and voice my opinion… and everybody’s like ‘hey, you’re an idiot’.” Topher
Your opinion had NOTHING to do with it. You typed the were no with 267 O’s in it, which F’s up the damn blog, and makes half of it grey and half of it white and ALL OF IT hard to read.
For that, you’re an idiot. I never actually bothered reading your opinion, once I realized you did that.
Sorry if this has been mentioned…
But, Theo and crew think so highly of Cameron’s D that they are moving Jacoby to LF
January 5th, 201010:11 pm
it is a sad reality mr baseball
rarely agree with you , but tonight eh
aubrey huff makes sense since liberty
has definitely tightened the purse on wren
wont affect me coming to the park,
cause the money aint there to go
and i think liberty realizes there are alot
more fans throughout the southeast in my boat
theyd love to come , but the jobs arent there to allow them to
Is VaBraveFan here? His ‘Skins got Shanahan.
January 5th, 201010:12 pm
I agree that our team is better than the team we started with last year…but, I don’t think it is better than the team we ended last year with. One…more…bat! (:
I’m interested to see who the Bills will get.
January 5th, 201010:14 pm
roman gal if you want a piece of my season tix package let me know…I normally split them with someone but she lost her job so taking them on my own this year
January 5th, 201010:16 pm
joerochester, who would you like to see the Bills hire? Big name veteran or take a chance on someone new?
January 5th, 201010:17 pm
What’s all this talk about snowball forming? If it’s too hot, you can’t form a snowball! If it’s too cold, it doesn’t pack together well…what, Jane – oh, global warming – never mind…
Being in the back of the wildcard race and not getting it isn’t competitive in my book. — richbrave
Being two games behind the wild-card leader with six games to play isn’t competitive, huh? Richbrave, these aren’t the rich Braves. You might need to rethink what competitive is, or be in line for a lot of disappointment.
January 5th, 201010:18 pm
If Wren really is done shopping, was there ever any consideration of trading KK instead of Vazquez? KK’s salary would have more than covered the $4 million max that Glaus could earn. I like KK, but I’d rather have Vazquez. Talk about a dominant rotation!
January 5th, 201010:19 pm
They won’t get a big name because the owner doesn’t want to pay them. I would love to see some college coach come in and just rattle everything up here… maybe Mike Leach? Charlie Weis?
NO MORE BOBBY
Mitchie-san – Your big shot and you put Not first. (insert Homer Simpson noise here)
Macon Braves (RIP)
I find it pretty pathetic that a guy who claims he’s just catching up on the day can’t go more than a couple of minutes while he’s catching up without commenting on something that was said 12 FREAKING HOURS AGO! Like he just HAS to have an opinion on every dang thing written. Then he just won’t stop with the same dang topic that he’s been asked to SHUT UP ABOUT!!!
But he is the Blogger Who Is Right About Everything so I guess we should feel blessed that we get just a small portion of his greatness to surround ourselves with EVERY DAY…..OVER AND OVER AGAIN….
Rush Limbaugh Does Have A Heart
January 5th, 201010:20 pm
To anyone with an ounce of sense (which excludes most of this blog)…MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING…HAS BEEN MADE UP BY MAN…just trying to get us hard working & tax-paying Americans to placate the political lefties of the world and pay through our a$$e$…to all of those who do not contribute one bit to any society, wether it be in this country or around the world…they are just envious of our lifestyle and freedoms!!!
Global warming is cyclical…so get over your sanctimonious ego’s!!!
But to more important things…like who are the final two pieces to the Braves roster puzzle?
And it is great to be a YELLOW Jacket tonight (BB lost to UGA…and FB losing to Iowa, thus far)!!!
January 5th, 201010:21 pm
I give David O’Brien credit. For someone who smokes as much weed as you do sir, your spelling is perfect.
LOL, I see now though that as fast as he can put the garbage up….it gets taken right back down. I bow down to the blogmeister!!
macon – find your scroll down button
ignore said person
College coaches in the NFL make me nervous after what happened with Petrino and the Falcons.
January 5th, 201010:22 pm
Have you seen The Blind Side, the true story movie about Baltimore Ravens right tackle Michael Oher? I think it is fabulous and funny in many parts….Sandra Bullock in another great role, and Tim McGraw has some very funny lines. Thanks, Bruce
January 5th, 201010:23 pm
MZ: Come on, man. That’s not fair to Lucero. Those guys have a great band, but you’re asking me who’s better, them or one of the great power-pop bands in history. Big Star is cited as an influence by many of the greatest bands of the past 20-30 years. Big Star was like a comet, but their body of work will live forever. Genius stuff, man. Alex Chilton? I mean, really. That’s seminal songwriting. The whole band was terrific.
January 5th, 201010:24 pm
I can’t tell you how much I’m looking forward to spring training. We try to catch a couple Braves away games in Jupiter, about a half hour from our condo. The thought of Heyward and Schafer in the same outfield really excites me.
We all know what Heyward’s potential is, but from what I saw of Schafer last spring, this guy is really loaded with talent. His defense is flat-out somewhere between outstanding and sensational. Selfishly, I would prefer both Heyward and Schafer spend 2 or 3 months in Gwinnett, the at-bats can only help build their confidence and development and, also in the case of Heyward gives the Braves 6.6 years of control. I don’t know how that would figure into Schafer’s years of control before free agency.
Add in Freeman a year or year and a half down then road, then the possibility of a couple top-flight starters knocking on the door the following year or so… whew. What’s not to like about the Braves during this next decade. I know, plenty could go wrong with these guys, but I see the club’s future as really exciting. I’m stoked.
Y’all, seriously – let it go. Move on.
January 5th, 201010:25 pm
Good, thanks, BravoMan! How ’bout you?
GovCT McFann, what about “Holy Curd” for that blog glossary?
That and “sheesh”, right?
Wayne in Utah
January 5th, 201010:26 pm
I love you too man…..in a buddy kinda way!!
Soph – but he was a complete … how to put it gently…a#$h*&^…I hated the hire the moment it was announced…
January 5th, 201010:27 pm
Yeah, I see what you mean. I’ve heard someone say Schottenheimer’s name. Wouldn’t mind seeing him back in the game.
Bruce, I haven’t seen it yet. But I want to. Have about five others I’ve gotta see first. Going to The Messenger or Nine tomorrow, I think.
McFann, GT needs some Rally McTurtle magic.
Hmm, can’t say I’m pleased with the news about the Braves being done spending (minus the PH). That the Braves can still have the same payroll as last year at the moment just seems rediculous. Come on, they are already counting in a buyout that isn’t even garunteed to be used 2 years down the road?? Maybe I don’t understand the payroll stuff like I thought I did, maybe I’m just extremely dissapointed that the amount of money available has shrunk from projections as high as $22 million to at the limit with just the signing of a high risk player (I’m not complaining about Glaus, I think it was a good signing). But are that many salaries increasing on the roster even after the suctraction of Kelly and Church? Just makes the Vazquez trade seem unnecesary and where the team could be better with him.
The Braves still have a decent team. They are better than they started last year, maybe a little worse than where they ended. The pitching staff will be among the best. The offense won’t be the worst. I just expected a better offseason than what we’ve seen.
So who are the PH guesses? Just for fun: Garrett Anderson. I don’t think he is going to get an offer to have anything more than a bench role, and will have to take that or retire. And it probably won’t take much money. He didn’t burn any brifges here as far as I know, so why not? Maybe I’m just crazy
January 5th, 201010:28 pm
GT go for it on 4th down plueeeassssssssssssssssssse
Where did Mike Smith come from?
Agree that the McLouth option for 2012 is a mute point at this time. However, if Schafer developes like the Braves hope he does, McLouth looks like to me an ideal trade chip to cover a need next winter. Therefore, it would be someone else’s problem to worry about the option.
January 5th, 201010:29 pm
I am becoming an NFL/College footy coach
My nickname will be “Died going for 4th downs” !!!
I hate musicals. Refuse to watch Nine. Saw Brothers this past weekend. That was decent.
Agreed, VJ. It was an iffy hire from the beginning. I can’t stand that man.
January 5th, 201010:30 pm
DOB with all the moves made you should be able to catch multiple in one day…no midday press conferences to deal with
IF we truly are done with major moves one positive is Medlen will remain…its important for my little one to have his bullpen entertainment
joerochester – Mike Smith was a D Coordinator on the Jaguars.
January 5th, 201010:31 pm
dogsbrekky—You’re right, I know. Sometimes my bad side gets the better of me and the guy makes himself such an easy target. But I’ll listen to the little guy sitting on my other shoulder now and follow your advise. Like I told nolie earlier…when you’re right, you’re right!
dogsbrekky you should love my schools coach…les miles loves going for it on 4th down
January 5th, 201010:33 pm
Earlier today, I stated that I’d rather read Lentz’s posts than all the crap about global warming.
So what happens when the evening rolls around?
Now we’ve got frickin’ Lentz posting about global warming.
Un FF’n real. Is is so frickin’ hard to keep the conversation away from that topic? Seriously? Really? No. I’m not F’n kidding?
Unless darkstar freezes and then bursts into flames, I don’t see the relevance of how warm or cold the globe is on a Braves blog.
“Being two games behind the wild-card leader with six games to play isn’t competitive, huh? Richbrave, these aren’t the rich Braves. You might need to rethink what competitive is, or be in line for a lot of disappointment.” DOB
Thank you for saying it. I’ve been fighting the good fight (yeah me… bowl of sad, Debbie Downer, ultimate pessimist…), all evening with this, and pretty much stated the same exact thing.
Perhaps when you type it it will have more credibility. Then again, morons is morons and it just probably won’t sink in.
DOB, I’m surprized you haven’t busted my balls for siding with Favre’ and the Vikings until the NFC title game in N.O.?
Not that I’ve changed my tune much. I’ve stated all along that neither the Vikings or Saints will lose a home playoff game. Rooting for the Vikings to lose, and claiming they were going to do so are two different things.
That’s how annoying Lentz and his Cowboy nonsense is. He’s now forced me to root FOR the Vikings just so it shuts his ass up. That sucks. I guess I can root for the Eagles. That would simplify things a tad, huh?
We were talking about how much VJ hated Petrino…I had to share that I literally cried tears of joy the day the 49ers fired Dennis Erickson…
Avatar was great. It’s a must see in the theater if you like fantasy/sci-fi at all.
January 5th, 201010:34 pm
tiger – which school, cause this GT coach is making me pull the old hair out !
Rumor Has It………You are hitting them way out of the park today with your blasts on “Wayne in Utah”. Your 8:08pm post once again calls Wayne out on his tendency to blow out of proportion one part of what you say.
Nice to be able to sit back and enjoy reading someone putting old Wayne in his place. Way to go dude.
The Bills need an offensive guy. That’s why I think Weiss would fit well here. He interviewed for the last time we had a head coaching position open.
If he was from Venus, would he feed us with a spoon?
If he was from Mars, wouldn’t that be cool?
Standing right on campus, would he stamp us in a file?
Hangin’ down in Memphis all the while
Children by the million sing for Alex Chilton when he comes ’round
They sing “I’m in love. What’s that song? I’m in love with that song.”
So we will (Cerebral?) rape and pillage in a village of his choice.
Invisible man who can sing in a visible voice.
Feeling like a hundred bucks, exchanging good lucks face to face.
Checkin’ his stash by the trash at St. Mark’s place.
I never travel far, without a little Big Star
Runnin’ ’round the house, Mickey Mouse and the Tarot cards.
Falling asleep with a flop pop video on.
If he was from Venus, would he meet us on the moon?
If he died in Memphis, then that’d be cool, babe.
January 5th, 201010:36 pm
Hey, I don’t disagree with you … I was just thinking since Memphis had come up, I’d try to spark a little debate/discussion … speaking of Chilton, went home for the holidays and snagged a bunch of my dad’s stuff, including The Box Tops’ greatest hits … “Cry Like a Baby” is such a great song, such a great song (as is the more popular, “The Letter”)
I also got a whole bunch of good 70s nuggets, like: Bellamy Bros., Billy Joe Royal, Brownsville Station, Dr. Hook and The Medicine Show, Hot Chocolate, The Ides of March and Pilot …
Seeing Avatar in IMAX 3D made me obsessed with 3D movies now. I hate Tim Burton flicks and I plan on seeing Alice in Wonderland when it comes out.
cab – how’d you like Mike Nolan?
Rumor Has It……you even got David O’Brien giving you props with his 8:12pm post. Wayne in Utah really pissed him off.
Steve from OH
January 5th, 201010:38 pm
Shut the hell up, Lentz. You do the exact same thing daily. Why do you think you have to use periods in your name now?
As Paul Westerberg and The Replacements famously sang:
Oh, and speaking of 70s power-pop bands … what about The Raspberries?
January 5th, 201010:39 pm
I guess I can root for the Eagles. That would simplify things a tad, huh?
That’s what I’ll be do it. Although if they lose and it’s Cowboys/Vikings then I’m screwed. Hate ‘em both.
Braves just signed Eric Hinske pending a physical.
*That’s what I’ll be doing. My bad.
January 5th, 201010:40 pm
MZ, I’ve got that great Box Tops album with “The Letter” on it, on vinyl. Vintage, not reissue. Dan Penn produced….
Hot Chocolate — haven’t heard that band in a long time. “You Sexy Thing” was an all-timer.
Words cant describe how disappointed I am in the Braves this offseason. They are the clear-cut biggest losers of the offseason. This is going to be a downward spiral. They will be worse this year and ownership will cut payroll again and so on until we are another Padre or Royals organization. We need ownership that will be willing to spend $150 Mil like the Mets and Phillies or will we always be a 3rd/4th place team. Cutting payroll by $10 Mil is pathetic especially when our ownership invest billions in satellite radio. No player on this current team will hit over 25 homers or surpass 100 RBI. 70-92 and last place. Go Braves..
January 5th, 201010:41 pm
I was most sincere when I thanked you earlier for making my point for me at 9:21pm. This day and that exact time will be a moment I remember for ions. (and you can tell I am serious because I didn’t call you names, and I am actually enjoying your joy in my earlier escapades!)
How ya doing tonight nolie? I like the fact that FW is going to wait and let things develop in the spring. Being an eternal optimist, I think our young guys will come through for us this spring. But I could be wrong, heck I’ve been wrong quite a few times already here today!
January 5th, 201010:42 pm
Dobi and dont forget…. Emi Emily…. I’m gonna write your name high on that silver screen…. Emily
Braves add Eric Hinske
Nick, your pessism disgusts me. I would love to drag mud into your house. Good day, sir.
Chris from the Rock
January 5th, 201010:43 pm
Let’s hope Hinske can make it 4 WS in a row.
Hinske…i was right
I’m Here, lol I’m really excited about the new changes in the right direction finally. A real Head Coach and a GM thats knows somthing. things will get better!
January 5th, 201010:44 pm
Right on cue, the Braves sign another loser.
Beat you to the punch
you know who I think was pretty underrated (and I’ve probably mentioned them before): The Babys … “Back On My Feet Again” is great power-pop, IMO … John Waite at his best, if you ask me
I think the Eric Hinske rumor is legit. Sounds like that’s the PH.
January 5th, 201010:45 pm
Braves signed Hinske
Eric Hinkse just signed
Whose side are you on?
Eric Hinske signs with the Braves according to MLBTraderumors.com.
7 hr in 98 PA…. woo hoo that is some pop
January 5th, 201010:46 pm
So, what’s the next step VaBraveFan? Do you think Campbell’s the answer at QB?
Hinske = Greg Norton Version 2.0
Hinske signed with the Braves.
Sorry, see several of you already put that up….
Good guy for the bench I would think, can play corner outfield and corner infield spots.
It really doesn’t always come down to money. While it is hard (if your not the Twins or the Marlins) to win consistently with very little money, it comes down to how you spend it.
Though nobody will say this, I suspect FW will have a little extra if he needs another arm or bat in mid season.
Compare our roster now with our roster last April. We are better off. Vazquez or no Vazquez. Wagner will be more reliable than Soriano or Gonzo. Saito will do just fine, unless his arm falls apart……(had to throw that in).
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