5:16 pm January 4, 2010, by David O'Brien
January 5th, 20104:37 pm
Anyone have the press conference for troy glaus? Cant fing it.
January 5th, 20104:40 pm
I knew as soon as I heard Wren say,”We’re ready for Spring Training,” alotta people would be pissed. It doesn’t add up though. We saved up 8-9 mil on the Vazquez deal. Are we just gonna sit on it? Idk somethings fishy. I know next year’s offseason is much more plentiful, but are we serious?
Enter your commenBayou Brave
January 5th, 2010
unbelievable, your and idiot.
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Eric In Albany N.Y.
the new #25 better hit better than the old “power hitting” # 25
January 5th, 20104:41 pm
Glaus on 680thefan right now.
January 5th, 20104:42 pm
It will be posted later on MLB.com. You can’t get to it once it is completed til later.
Brandon, press conference:
Could Roachy be brought in for a one year 5 mill deal if Seattle passes? We then can use Glaus as a bench player covering the corner infield and possibly outfield slots??
I like the idea of Randy Winn, since I’ve learned he’s available and apparently dirt cheap Uga Acct
I think he is a better option than Dye for sure. Whether I would prefer him to Damon would depend on the relative costs in money and years. He really dipped last season, but might bounce back some. I would still prefer someone with some pop who can play first too in case it’s needed.
DOB makes the big bucks of a prestige job. maybe he can advance them enough cash to get two players??
January 5th, 20104:43 pm
Heath., been a trader/hf manager since 1990…. now I have 95% of my stuff systemized and I just do some macro trades to stop myself being totally bored out of my brain… hence I have MUCH time to sit on here during the day…. my systems had their worst day in 10 years today !
Just got back in town. Have to work a few days before heading out on snowboarding trip to snowshoe wv. I think johnny damon would be a good addition but I don’t see it happening. I like the Glaus signing especially since it was less than 2 million guaranteed and depends on him staying healthy etc. Happy new year everybody and Go Braves in 2010!
…made home-made meatball subs for dinner last night. Tonight…. been cookin’ up a roast in the crockpot all day with green beans, potatos, carrots, peas, and onions. Mmmmm. Can’t wait. Also go home-made bread for the roast in the bread-maker.
January 5th, 20104:45 pm
heath, are we invited to dinner……i love roast almost as much as green eggs and ham
….ahh. Sorry. Tone is just not easily conveyed on the blog.
I am really just getting started with this whole investment thing. I like it a lot. Right now it is not too hard because sooooo many good companies stock prices are in the toilet. I would love to learn more about this stuff, though. A little at a time….
TennesseePaul (January 5th, 2010 4:28 pm) –
Like I said, yer probly right.
Wait a minute! Was that a TennPaul emoticon?!? Yikes!
I know. Stunning. It hurt to type it. But with the previous science-of-AWG–now-banned-under-the-politics-clause fiasco earlier today tensions were at a threat level of Orange. In essence I was “forced” to take off my shoes and belt. Hoping we never get to the full body scanner on this site, but it is a rather slow, cold, off-season. Lot of lose cannons around.
January 5th, 20104:47 pm
TnBrian, Nolie, Dogsbrekky, and all the other Veterans of the blog
What is everyone’s take on Damon…?
I don’t like this at all our F.O. should’ve invested 15-16 mill on our offense and pursued Jason Bay but our Cheap owners did as I thought they would and settled for Slop in Milky Cabrera and Troy Glass. Now they are looking to get Johnny Damon for a reasonable price. Damon is so Overrated and his arm is Garbage! I know kids that have a better arm than he does…
Add to the Fact that Bobby is running the team Damon’s SB totals will be in the 10-15 range
“Could Roachy be brought in for a one year 5 mill if Seattle passes” beekay
I think that lathargic ship has sailed on.
Heath, I do not trade stocks a lot.. I am an apalling stock picker, but I do have some Berkshire… figure the fat old dude in Nebraska knows more than me… I was a bond trader and then prop trader at CSFB, Swiss Bank and Deutsche many moons ago.. now I trade bonds and financial futures
January 5th, 20104:48 pm
I think I’d probably side with the scouts on this issue and say that LaRoche is a very good defensive 1b. RC
I wouldn’t put him in the top 10, but close to it.
January 5th, 20104:49 pm
Andruw had one bad season for the Braves as opposed to about 10 great seasons, and we’re going to remember him for his awful 2007?
Post of the decade(It’s still early)
January 5th, 2010
RHR (January 5th, 2010 10:06 am)
Where IS Loaf anyway? Has he signed with another team? Gonna retire? Waiting til Spring Training again? Can we….get him back?
Rosenthal reports that he will sign with Atlanta in February for $1MM He will earn the following incentives:
- 25K if he averages less than 4.5 Y/G (yawns per game)
- 50K if not nominated for “Ambien Sleepiest Player Of The Year” award
- After the All-Star Break he gets full use of LF ballgirl’s folding chair*
- For each HR above 15, Chino Cadahia will have a cup of warm milk waiting in the dugout
*On chilly nights, he may instead wear an MLB-approved Snuggie.
January 5th, 20104:51 pm
Wren will spend 3 million on two solid bench players and save the remaining money from Vasquez deal to use at the trade deadline…. just my guess.
tomahawk, by the sounds of FW we are done with MAJOR FA signings… hopefully he has a trade up his sleeve but it may mean we are cutting payroll from 2009 by about $6M
January 5th, 20104:52 pm
but I like Damon
Yesterday I stated that had Wren come out at the end of the season and said, “we’re getting Melky and Glaus and Damon and thats it,” there would have been a bunch of unhappy campers.Optimism was abounding then on just who we might could land. Now it looks like it’s just Melky and Glaus. (is everybody happy?) I, for one, thought they would resign Roachy and add a LF with some power, but no big thumper “in addition” to resigning Roachy, instead we replaced him with Glaus,we freed up payroll for possibly a couple of more HR’s(if he can stay healthy?) for much less defense, I’m afraid. We swapped Anderson with Melky, perhaps an even trade (power and OPS wise) with an upgrade on defense from what I’m hearing. So if no Damon or Nady or whoever, then exactly what did we accomplish? A better defensive LF for a lesser defensive 1B. Not doom and gloom but WOW! I think most everyone envisioned a little more than that FW.
Tom Waits wears Redwing boots
Funny to think that the Braves could end up with 2/3rds of the outfield that won the 2009 WS in a trade for Javier Vazquez.
January 5th, 20104:53 pm
but but but… we can’t be done???
The most frustrating thing about the Braves is that Matt Diaz is the best OF the Braves have and he hasn’t ever been able to be granted an everyday OF spot. I’m not sure there is a Brave the puts down more effort than him.
Financial Futures…that couldn’t have been good of late?
January 5th, 20104:54 pm
jeffrey d, I agree completely about Andruw Jones. I loved watching him play center field for Atlanta for many years. No way we would have won 14 division titles in a row without him. He started to decline so the Braves let him go…I wish him the best
Wayne in Utah
January 5th, 20104:55 pm
Rumor Has It (3:08pm)
“Teabagging?” Like me on the other end of the spectrum, you give yourself away with this word. Just like I give myself away talking about the things I talk about.
Hey, I was having a conversation with beekay. My fault. I started it. Shouldn’t have, but I did. You folks called me on it. Dave called me on it, but in doing so, he threw gas on the fire. He should have said, “Wayne, you are an ass. Stop it now!” Instead, he made a political statement from the other side.
So, my only retorts since then are why is there a bias against the one point of view and not the other…..because the view from the left is tolerated by the blogmeister and by many on the blog. I am not trying to look innocent here, my friend. Like I said, I am guilty.
But I am not the only guilty one…..and I doubt that it will be admitted, but the views from the left are more readily accepted on this blog than the views from the right.
I only throw sheeyt out there once in a while to stir the pot as you say, but don’t be blinded to the fact that others do so, and do not catch much grief over it.
So throw out your “teabagging” comments all you want. Nothing I have said was quite as derogatory than that statement you made at 3:08pm, but nobody said word one about yours…….point proven. You offended a lot of folks with your “teabagging” reference, but it is OK, because it didn’t offend those from the left. So it is acceptable.
Still waiting on that “punch” to the nose…….
January 5th, 20104:56 pm
Diaz had an everday spot two years ago, didn’t he?
Speaking of financial stuff…..
FNM and FRE are probably ripe for the picking….for long-term that is. We’re gonna eventually pull out of this housing crap and when we do, those two stocks will be the ones to own.
heath – everything I do of consequence is so boring it would rattle your brain, but volatility is always good for me… I write a blog at tradingispain.blogspot.com that describes some of my systems/strategies…. if you wanna look
uga-accountant and others – I like the sound of UGA for my daughter plus it is about 1/2 the loot of NYU Stern but is ATHENS a safe city ??
January 5th, 20104:57 pm
I should say – Funny to think that by trading Javier Vazquez, we could end up with 2 of the 3 starting outfielders on the 2009 World Series Champion. And that is a fact – no speculation.
I have that feeling as well that we break camp with the same roster as we have Now…
Hopefully we can Dump Milky Cabrera in S Training…
And Maybe if there is another teams number one or number 2 starter gets injured in S. Training and has to miss an extended period of time then we can trade Lowe as well and not have to eat up as much of his salary as opposed if we were to have dumped him a month ago…
Well if ATL is done as Wren said Diaz is the everyday OF and Melky will play RF until Heyward is ready.
Seems to me like Wren has some pretty high hopes that Heyward will be the starting RF. I don’t know if I want that to be the case…
January 5th, 20104:58 pm
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Well, those who didn’t want Damon — you can probably rest easy. It sounds as if the Braves are down to their last few mill or so, and aren’t going to make any more big moves before season, barring something unexpected.
Wren made it pretty clear that they’re working on getting one more piece, probably an OF/PH type (to fill the Greg Norton-type role; well, hopefully like Norton did in 2008, not ‘09).
They like Damon and would like him in their lineup, but they don’t have the money to spend for him and expect to use combo of Diaz/Melky in LF if Heyward is ready opening day. If Heyward’s not ready, Melky can play RF for a while until he is. That’s the plan. They’re gonna give Heyward every chance to win that RF job, and unless he falls on his face in spring training I think it’ll be his.
And if Heyward’s ready, Melky will get some PT in all three OF spots, spelling each of those guys and probably hitting against some particularly tough lefties in place of Heyward, some righties in place of Diaz, that kind of thing.
January 5th, 20104:59 pm
What’s Chappening Chief! I haven’t seen you on here in a Gripp!
There is gonna be some good talk tomorrow morning on 680AM sports radio. Word is that Leo Mazzone is gonna defend the Vazquez trade for Milky Cabrera instead of bashing L. Media
January 5th, 20105:00 pm
Isn’t Matsui a free agent too? Let’s go for the homerun here.
Wayne in Utah-
It’s just that the views from the Left are fact based. I think Glen Beck is on TV right now, so see you later and please run to FOX News.
January 5th, 20105:01 pm
really? really? wren said he was done? really?
72Mill Spent And he is done? Really? He must be that low on the guys left to pick from is this is the case…. REALLY? DONE?
Our offense and team have too many question marks and the outfield is terrible. I am smelling another 3rd or 4th place finish. I mean seriously..an outfield of Cabrera, McClouth and Diaz with a maybe on Heyward? That blows. This team will never compete until the FO starts investing in the team, instead of dumping salary.
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January 5th, 20105:02 pm
“Wren made it pretty clear that they’re working on getting one more piece, probably an OF/PH type (to fill the Greg Norton-type role; well, hopefully like Norton did in 2008, not ‘09).”
Good 411 and a classic example of our Owners going Cheap! I’d still rather them make an attempt at going after J. Dye or V. Guerrero
I guess that the owners want Wren to go after players like Ross Gload or someone of his caliber?
Well, this surely has been somewhat dissapointing.
January 5th, 20105:03 pm
DOB, then why was Vasquez traded? We free up $9 mil or so with the JV trade, had about $5 mil to spend before that, and all we add is Glaus? Something’s up, payroll been cut?
January 5th, 20105:04 pm
Why does that not surprise me? I am right though…..if your gonna say certain conversations are not allowed, and then let folks like yourself bash my views without any consternation, then just say, “Right Wing Political Views are not allowed on the MIB/BBQ/Music/Baseball/Left Wing jabs are OK blog!
I still like our team without Damon.
to fill the Greg Norton-type role
Are the Braves looking for someone to not get a hit in key spots? I’ll do it for the league minimum. Dave, give my IP and email to Wren, please.
January 5th, 20105:05 pm
Don’t like it one little bit, nope not one.
How much longer until Lentz comes out with “I told you so”?
Good day, sir. Had to take a break for the bile we have been subjected to for a couple of months. I didn’t figure the postseason and the very beginning of the offseason would cause me to miss some late-breaking news from DOB.
Readin’ your blog… I, despite what you might think, do not find this stuff boring. What is the smallest amount of $ you would recommend getting started with for the stuff you do? I presume this is all you do now (based on the beginning of your blog) to earn a living?
It was mentioned yesterday that if Atlanta were to sign Damon he should grow his hair long to give the team a little personality. Well, this guy should be a start in the right direction:
I said I would wait until I found out what we would do with the money we saved from the Vasquez deal before hating it…I now hate it.
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Counting insurance reimbursements, if actually received, as a part of the budget is an unusual move in my opinion.
We read many times about how the Hampton deal was dragging down our teams budget. Yet we also read that we received insurance settlements for him. The Braves actually got the payment for him. Yet we never really replaced him, relying instead on a stream of cheap options, such as Jorge Campillio, JoJo, Morton, Bennett, Carlyle, etc. If the insurance settlement is an offset of his salary, then the team should have been allowed to sign an actual replacement right?
January 5th, 20105:06 pm
braves have at least $5 million on incentives for saito and glaus. that is why the braves are near theyr payroll limit. so that $7-10 million is actually $2-5 million
In expectation of the question about how Braves arrive at something close to $90 mill in money already projected, you should know that they not only include prorated signing bonus and average annual value of contracts, but also some other things including the incentives they believe are more than likely to be reached by players including Saito (add another $1.5-2 mill or so to his $3.2 base) and Glaus (add another $1.7 mill or so to his $1.75 mill base). I say “or so” because Braves won’t say how much of those incentives they are projecting onto the payroll, other than to say what they believe the player is likely to earn.
Also, there’s a $1.25 mill buyout of McLouth’s $10.65 mill option in 2012; the Braves prorate that buyout over the three years of his contract, so add about $400,000 or so for that to this year’s payroll.
January 5th, 20105:07 pm
Well he’s probably already started writing, so I’ll say 6:30
good, so apparently Liberty cut payroll by around $8-10 mil. Thats encouraging
Miss a slash and they dock ya for it. Lets try it again:
Athens is a very safe town relative to many other college options. Atlanta, especially GA Tech, is very high crime right now.
UGA, and all public universities in Georgia are international student friendly. I know no specifics for you, but there are lots of international students around the campus.
January 5th, 20105:08 pm
The Lentz Manifesto coming soon.
You are correct. Don’t miss Glen, He’s on right now.
DAMMIT, it’s Jesse Chavez.
If FW had a plan to spend more money on something significant, I kinda doubt he would announce it. Though I think he is done for now, except for the PH type.
Actually, he might be holding back for some potential mid year additions.
I like the roster so far. Gives some wiggle room for the rookies to advance if they are ready.
January 5th, 20105:09 pm
jeffrey d – I can also stand there and let the pitcher throw 3 pitches right by me also. maybe we can work every other day. haha
Bay Area Steve
Did Bobby pilfer ‘OB’s leather jacket for the press conference?
And, 10Paul switchin’ to the emoticon dark side: unforgiveable.
Tomahawkin: Expect someone of Gload’s caliber (though not Gload; he already signed).
Dye’s not in the plans. Sounds like some scouts are saying his bat speed was waaay slow in second half of 2009.
January 5th, 20105:10 pm
I know no specifics for you, but there are lots of international students around the campus (UGA).
There’s a ton of international stuff at UGA. There’s even an all international dorm in the middle of campus.
True or False…the lineup we have assembled currently is better than our opening day lineup last year?
unbelievable: you’re not reading any of these details, are you? Oh, well. Sure, they cut it to $82 mill. Whatever you say, my man.
Dammit, no TV!
January 5th, 20105:11 pm
(DEE az) as in Cameron Diaz.
(DYE az) as in Matt Diaz.
I am curious as to why the difference. I sometimes think that Matt may be Mexican but I don’t think he is. Not sure about Cameron’s heritage. How would a Mexican Diaz pronounce it? Perhaps Matt’s version really is (DEE az) but that his baseball stage name is pronounced (DYE az) just to separate himself from the other (DEE az)’s that seem to flock the minor league system.
Are you insuating that P-Lentz is gonna have another esay for us later…?
We both knew that The Owners were going to go Cheap this offseason, and here it is…
Gload would’ve been a nice piece to have. Back-up 1B
January 5th, 20105:13 pm
True, for sure on opening day. Debatable to being better than our September lineup. Lots of IF’s.
Would Sheffield be willing to come down for the PH role?? When Gary is on, he can strike fear in the hearts of pitchers.
By the way, Glaus is a big dude with powerful handshake, and appears to be in outstanding shape. I was expecting some chunkiness, from the pictures, but he looks to be in great shape, and looks a few years younger than the photo I used in a previous blog. He says he’s had absolutely no constraints or restrictions on what he can do this winter, been lifting hard, throwing, etc. He’ll start hitting this week, but said he had no problems with his swing when he finally made it back in September.
January 5th, 20105:14 pm
dogsbrekky, January 5th, 2010, 4:23 pm … “DO the state sponsored type colleges like UGA, UNC Chapel Hill etc have special application requirements for foreigners… she will be doing all of the SATs etc for USA requirements…”
Every college/university has its own admission procedure. You should contact the institutions to which your daughter is interested to find out if there is something special needed.
The main standardized test that is universally applied to non-US applicants (and I think this is only graduate schools, but may also be undergraduates) is the TOEFL. Since your daughter is from an English speaking country, that should be unnecessary.
For state universities, out of state tuition will always apply. Doesn’t matter how far out of state. But, there isn’t a special rate for out of country.
Many state universities have quotas for % of in state students, since the tax payers in the state are subsidizing the university. But, your daughter would not be at more of a disadvantage in competing for slots than if she were out of state. This varies from university to university.
The two standardized tests that are usually required are the SAT and the ACT. Some schools prefer one and some schools prefer the other. I think east coast schools lean on the SAT whereas midwest/west coast schools prefer the ACT. However, it varies from university to university.
I’m not aware of any standardized test other than those two that is used in admission.
The only other thing that I can think of for international students would be proof of a student VISA. But, I don’t think that would be required for admission, since you cannot get the VISA without the acceptance.
It sounds as if the Braves are down to their last few mill or so
In expectation of the question
I don’t think there is a question as much as there is a statement, the Braves payroll was reduced this year from last year. Where is Terry for the infamous quote?
Last year’s final payroll was 100 million.
I have 0 faith that we will see 100 million this year.
Lets not start getting our huggies in a wad here, fans. Even if they just add a bench bat like a Eric Hinske is that even surprising? It shouldn’t be at all considering a) these are the Atlanta Braves and b) Wren’s thinking might be to have a extra few million to play with in case he needs it for an in-season trade or signing…if they have as much as many have guessed.
January 5th, 20105:15 pm
Eric Hinske – can play OF and 1B – bats left – cheap – if his bat speed is still thought to be good, he’d do fine.
What would Gomes cost? Too much? Might be a lot cheaper in a couple of weeks.
“True or False…the lineup we have assembled currently is better than our opening day lineup last year?”
My response, Neither of the above. I think the braves have about the same credentials as last year. Looks like April and May will comprise of many 3-2 run run losses in that we get quality starts from our starters and lose
Bobby will trot out his opening day lineup and not make any adjustments to it until June like he did last year with Schafer, KJ, and Francoeur
Good question however
Time to fry some shrimp and Bump some old Tracey Lee “The Theme, (It’s Party Time)”
January 5th, 20105:17 pm
Glaus is a big dude with powerful handshake, and appears to be in outstanding shape…he looks to be in great shape, and looks a few years younger than the photo
Wasn’t suspecting anything until that last bit there… “looks a few years younger than the photo”… sure sign of a roid user. Canseco claims the needle kept him young in the face.
Does Gary Sheffield qualify as the type of bat that wren is looking for to fill out the bench? Also do you think Sheff would be willing to take that role?
January 5th, 20105:18 pm
IF Chipper rebounds…
If Glaus can stay healthy….
If McLouth rebounds….
If Heyward is ready….
Looks like our offense relys on a bunch of IFs. One of either two things is going on here. A budget cut OR Wren has once again failed to address our lack of offense.
Well I guess it makes since we spent big last year now this year we’re going to have a full year of Hanson and Huddy to replace Vazquez and our offense is definitely better than the start of last year.
January 5th, 20105:19 pm
unbelivable- usually teams set payroll the way you see it, as just the player contracts of a 25 man roster for opening day and the braves did that as well when their payroll was at $80 million a few years ago. but, the braves now use the payroll limit signing bonuses, etc. the payroll is higher than when time warner was around though, and it has a more felxiablitly ownership. so the payroll could go up and also could acquire some solid addiitons if they need to in the middle of the season with liberty media
January 5th, 20105:20 pm
To continue my 5:14…. can’t lie, it is disappointing, but in no way surprising. DOB brings up some good ones like Damon and Nady and the blog goes nuts, but he’s only a beat writer throwing out suggestions. Guess that buttering up Wren gave Melky was legit and he and Diaz do a platoon thingy. YIKES, another platoon!
In expectation of the question about how Braves arrive at something close to $90 mill in money already projected, you should know that they not only include prorated signing bonus and average annual value of contracts, but also some other things including the incentives they believe are more than likely to be reached by players including Saito (add another $1.5-2 mill or so to his $3.2 base) and Glaus (add another $1.7 mill or so to his $1.75 mill base).
Yeah, I kind of thought about that when the 7-9 million number was thrown around. Guess we have our answer now.
January 5th, 20105:21 pm
Well, those who didn’t want Damon — you can probably rest easy
And lastly… damn… this will never resolve the topic “would the Braves go two years on Damon but not on Cameron?”. Perhaps now it is truly a “mute point”
DOB- how about chad tracy as a ph/1b addition?
Another reason the Braves won’t sign Jermaine Dye:
Dye sounds too similiar to Diaz. Bobby would screw this up big time especially when he does all the double switch pinch hit stuff. If he caught an umpire on a bad day, Bobby would be the first manager to pull off something like this…..
Matt Diaz in LF
Bobby Pinch hits Jermaine Dye for Diaz in the 6th inning.
Jermaine Dye reaches base in the 8th inning. Bobby pinch runs Matt Diaz for Dye. Bobby leaves Matt Diaz in the game to play LF.
I’m not about to blame Wren for not addressing offensive needs. I think he was given so much and he did the most that he could with it. There was some salary bonuses that we didn’t consider.
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