Guess there are two ways of looking at this: either a team didn’t improve at all and they were one of the worst teams, or a team made a bunch of trades which will make them lost more games than last year. The Braves have done neither BF forever
I believe that Bowden thinks that the deals we have made actually weaken the team.
I also don’t see what the fact that he got fired for graft has to do with his ability to judge talent and deals, as several other posters have mentioned his firing as if that means anything.
must have overlooked this comment. Please go check out all the time gonzo has spent on the dl in his career. He pretty much hangs out on the DL quite often
About as often as Hudson, and apparently Huddy is falling apart to most people. Not to mention that Wags is apparently “injury prone” after the same surgery in the same season as Gonzalez.
Regardless of Gonzalez’s injury history, the fact is that he very recently missed an entire season and is coming off elbow surgery just half a season ago. That fact makes me consider him an injury risk. Add to that Soriano’s mystery illness and missed time, and the two of them don’t really combine to be the lowest risk option in the world. So I would avoid claiming that Atlanta is “more at risk” in their bullpen because of Saito + Wagner replacing Gonzalez + Soriano.
re our Closers – after the AS break, Mr MFIKY was almost putrid at times and gave up several game losing hr (the Florida game and a few others come to mind), he just seemed to wwear down… so I will take Wagner (even with the injury possibility there)…. Gonzi versus Saito… I love Gonzo cause he made my heart skip a beat or 10 EVERYTIME he threw…. Saito, when healthy is really filthy… so maybe he gives me angina in 2010… hence a tie
Losing Vazquez is painful but he had many awesome innings oftens followed by brain farts for a short time… overall I trust FW’s faith in Hudson… whom I always want on the mound plus a full year of Hanson… so I lean towards 2010 being on par with 2009 as far as SP goes…
Diaz vs Loaf – I will take Diaz (NOW), Glaus vs Kotchie/Roachy… hard one cause of the awesome D of the 2 predecessors, but Glaus is a ++ 3B (or was) and is a former hr beast… say tie
3B – we will see the old Chipper on D this year and a better year in the box… so 2010 > 2009
Burdell dont forget that Soriano and Gonzo just made a bunch of appearances. Many times this shows up the following season. Meaning you could easily expect their arms to fall off next season.
Since Rafael Furcal left we have not really had a prototypical leadoff guy.
you really need to take a hard look at his entire Atlanta career, cause he really wasn’t all that great a leadoff hitter over that entire time, just for a few years. 320OBPs are crap in leadoff. In fact every year but his rookie year which was abnormal he had a lower OBP than Nate has averaged the last 5 years or so. We have more pressing problems.
Dogsbrekky for most of them I agree, but come on. Glaus tie Kotchman/LaRoache??? Kotchman was solid, and played great defense. LaRoache was unbelievable the 2nd half of the season, offensively and defensively.
Well ofcourse we have Omar who’s one of the better bench players in the game imo. He can play everywhere and can swing the bat really well. But my point is if Glaus goes down idk how comfortable I’d be with him over there. I suppose Prado can man 1st while Infante plays 2B, but what if Chipper or Yunel needs the day off. I dont wanna bring up Diory at all this year.
You bring up a solid point about Boras who believes all of his clients are superstars, so if the price is too steep then forget about it. But we do need a back-up 1B/PH for the bench IMO.
Nolie agreed. Furcal showed flashes of greatness, but was also horrible at long stretches of time too. Both offensively and defensively. He had a hell of an arm and great range. Unfortunely many times he tried to do too much and made bonehead plays defensively. People recall his last half season with the Braves, but do you recall the first half of that year?
By the way I was Furcal fan. If nothing else he was fun to watch.
Nolie, Cox is one of the big problems. Making lineups and putting the right guys in or not is a huge problem. I understand there are lots of questions with the team right now, but IF you make out the correct lineups and sign one more bat, we’ll be in great shape. Cox making senile decisions is a pressing issue to me. Putting Diaz in left and batting him leadoff will certainly help.
Don’t get me wrong about Glaus I like the sign. I may be one of the few, but I think it’s gonna turn out to be one of the best bargains of the offseason, but we need an insurance policy if he goes down for any long period of time.
I can’t wait for this week to get under way for baseball, especially for our Braves. I really think a big signing or trade, probably a trade, is coming soon after the Glaus signing becomes official. I’ve seen Berkman’s name floating around a little bit around here and it’s possible. McLouth and some good prospects could get that done, though more money might need to be freed up for this to happen. More than likely a Uggla or L.Scott type is headed for the Atl., but lets not underestimate the depth Wren now has to work with in his system.
he’s just the most convenient scapegoat, no proof that anything would have worked differently, just conjecture. I understand your feeling, but I disagree. Check all the team boards and they all blame the manager for their woes.
Braves 2010 25 – man … Braves 2009 25 – man
1B – Glaus ……………………..LaRoche
2B – Prado ……………………..Prado
SS – Escobar…………………..Escobar
3B – C. Jones………………….C. Jones
C – McCann…………………….McCann
RF – Cabrera…………………..Church
CF – McLouth………………….McLouth
LF – Diaz……………………….Anderson
OF – M. Jones/Schafer?……Diaz
Utility – Infante………………..Infante
Backup Catcher – Ross…….Ross
PH/Backup 2nd – Conrad?…K. Johnson
SP – Lowe…………………….Lowe
SP – Hudson…………………Hudson
SP – Jurrjens………………..Jurrjens
SP – Hanson………………..Hanson
SP – Kawakami…………….Vazquez
RP – Wagner………………..Soriano
RP – Saito……………………Gonzalez
RP – Moylan…………………Moylan
RP – O’Flaherty……………..O’Flaherty
RP – Medlen…………………Medlen
RP – Chavez………………..Kawakami
RP – Dunn…………………..Logan
RP – Abreu/Proctor/Hyde/Reyes/ …?…Acosta
I think I may be missing something, but, when I look at the 2010 Braves as they are currently constructed versus the 2009 Braves that closed out I see the following …
Is Glaus better than LaRoche?
Is 2010 Chipper better than 2009 Chipper to end the season?
Are Diaz/Cabrera/M. Jones better than Diaz/Church/Anderson?
Is Kawakami better than Vazquez?
Is Lowe 2010 better than Lowe 2009?
Are Wagner/Soriano/Chavez/Dunn/whomever better than Soriano/Gonzalez/Kawakami/Logan/Acosta?
It really looks to me that the 2010 Atlanta Braves will be as good as the 2009 Altanta Braves that finished the season. They should be considerably better than the team that started 2009.
Starting pitching looks a little weaker (Kawakami 2010 won’t be as good as Vazquez 2009, but Lowe 2010 should be better than Lowe 2009, and the others should be comparable). Bullpen looks stronger and deeper.
On the offense and defense, Chipper 2010 should be better than Chipper 2009 to finish the season. McCann 2010 should be better than McCann 2009 (eyes fixed). The outfield defense will be improved.
Defensive Glaus could be comparable (or better) than defensive LaRoche. I love Roachy, but his range was limited. Offensive Glaus should be an upgrade over offensive LaRoche. Or, Glaus could suck. This is the biggest question mark. But, if answered in the affirmative, the 2010 Braves should be better than the very good 2009 Braves at the end of the season.
Glaus is a comparable player to Nady. Both are injury prone and have huge question marks. Glaus has higher upside with the power he has. Nady is coming off a 2nd opperation on the same arm. How can Nady command 6-7 mil ?? Nady should garner around the same deal as Glaus. So Nady would be a perfect to back up 1b if Glaus goes down. And he can man a outfield spot. If he cost to much i say go a cheap route with Aubrey Huff. He has some pop in his bat and can play 1b and Corner outfield and has played 3B as well. He hasnt garnered that much attention on the market cause of his two month slump after the trade to the Tigers. But i think he can help this team.
Why are people destroying Bowden for knocking Wren’s offseason moves? Get comfortable, because he wasn’t the first, nor the last analyst to critique Frank Wren’s job this offseason.
The Braves swapped Mike Gonzalez, Rafael Soriano, Javier Vazquez, Adam Laroche and their first round draft pick(20th overall) for Billy Wagner, Takashi Saito, Melky Cabrera, Mike Dunn, Arodys Vizcaino, Troy Glaus, a supplemental draft selection(TBD) and the 3rd draft selection in the 2nd round(Orioles -TBD).
I’m sorry, but I can’t quite see how the 25 man roster is better in 2010 than the 2009 version, with the assets that Frank Wren KNEW he had heading into this offseason(meaning he knew Hudson and Heyward, at some point, were add ons, but that doesn’t mean that he needed to make mediocre acquistions to contend with the Phillthies). I know Wren still has 7-9 million to play with, and that’s why the entire analysis of the offseason is still TBD. But to this point, I don’t think it’s fair for Braves fans to destroy Jim Bowden for giving Wren a poor grade on the offseason. They have added a lot of injury prone players, and while Gonzalez and Soriano weren’t spring chickens, at least they were coming off fantastic years.
Lastly, has anyone noticed that Gonzalez, Soriano, and Vazquez led the Braves staff in K’s/9 innings? With Chipper, Glaus, Prado and McLouth, I wouldn’t expect our pitching to be as good with so many more balls being hit into play. Not sure our D is very good at turning those many balls into outs. Not as good as the Mets or Phillthies that is.
My biggest fear about our bullpen is that Manny Acosta will be involved in it………I expect the opposing team to score 3-5 runs every time he steps on the mound..
Eric I was kind of a fan too. he could be exciting, but was very inconsistent. I think we have about the best all around SS right now that I can remember seeing in a Braves uni at least right off hand
nolie, what’s a nickname Bobby will/could give Berkman in Atlanta? Berky? How ’bout Lancey? Look, he would give the lineup another switch hitter which is a rare commodity in this game. I hope we get him… lol
Nolie, completely disagree with you on your statement about Cox. I love the guy and will hate to see him go, but how can you defend his lineups and use of the bullpen? Who else can I blame for these irrational decisions? You can always say 20/20 hindsight but look at the stats. Why did KJ keep batting leadoff? Why keep Schafer, KJ, and Frenchy in there so long? Why not bat Diaz leadoff? LaRoche should have been moved up higher in the order during his torrid second half There’s only one man you can blame for these decisions, and it’s Cox. Not sure who else is suppose to be the scapegoat?
Glaus is a comparable player to Nady. Both are injury prone and have huge question marks. Glaus has higher upside with the power he has. Nady is coming off a 2nd operation on the same arm. How can Nady command 6-7 mil ?
With all the complaints about LaRoche batting so low in the lineup, I have to ask….Didn’t the Braves play their best ball during the time LaRoche was batting 7th or so? What more did you want?
Also, Kotchmann was very grood defensively and LaRoche was also very solid, however Glaus was a plus defender at 3rd so I think he is going to be far from garbage at a much easier position. You’re asking him to field ground balls and keep his toe on a base as he catches a ball…….really people think about what you are saying before you say it.
where’s all of this Berkman chatter coming from? I’ve not seen one credible report linking him to Atlanta. Would it be a great pickup? Hell yes. Is Houston looking to get rid of him? I would say hell no. They’d be dumb to do that- he’s the face of the franchise.
JoeC10, the Braves played their best ball when Wren got rid of Frenchy, and Schafer was FINALLY sent down. KJ also got hurt so Prado could play. Diaz, prado and Brandon Jones should have taken over for these guys early on but Cox kept keep throwing three rally killers out there and we dug ourselves too big of a hole. Thankfully, Wren added LaRoche and McLouth which forced Cox to play even better players. As long as Wren keeps the crap away from Cox we’ll be okay.
Nolie, how can you defend Cox’s use of Norton so many times in crucial situations?
Nolie, completely disagree with you on your statement about Cox Andy
yeah, you and a number of others.Certainly y’all’s right.
I was never anywhere where an incompetent person ended up in a hall of fame. That just is not the way the world works. Bobby is admired by 90+% of the people who actually make their living in baseball, and I’ll take that over any fan’s reaction every day.
Every board on the net rips their manager to shreds. It’s the nature of fan reaction.
I understand how you feel and I’ve read the arguments, I just don’t buy into it at all. Not saying he is perfect, but neither are any of the others he is competing against. They all have their pluses and minuses.
We are just gonna hafta agree to disagree about this one Andy.
complain complain complain about bobby cox… relax if you dont like him you wont have to complain after 2010, you complain bobby used guys who didnt work out? as if he had any oprions
to go with someone who was going to work out. he used who he had and who was next in rank on the roster. stop bi**hing he will be replaced with someone you all wont like for the 2011 season!
The only issue I have with Bobby Cox, is that there are times when his loyality hurts the team. Martin Prado is a better player than Kelly Johnson but Cox refused to make the change until KJ got hurt. Diaz should have been playing over Francoeur.
2002 division series Cox used Keith Lockhart over Mark Derosa at 2nd base…enough said…same series Tommy G gave up 4 runs in the 1st inning…came up to bat in the 2nd inning 2 outs bases loaded Cox left him in only to go back out in the 3rd and give up 3 more runs making it 7-0 Giants…..That’s Bobby Cox in a nutshell…sticks with his favorite players regardless of the situation……
Rob in pain from (SC), January 3rd, 2010, 4:58 pm … “Martin Prado is a better player than Kelly Johnson but Cox refused to make the change until KJ got hurt.”
Revisionist history. Change was made, formally, then KJ went onto the DL (a few days later).
Prado had been injured for some time before the switch. As soon as he came back healthy, the switch was made.
When KJ came back from the DL, he got very little playing time.
We are writing to inform you that we have now been holding your bags for close to 72 hours. As is cutomary the first 24 hours are included with your flight ticket. However, there is a $25/bag charge for each additional 24 hours thereafter. Please be sure to bring the necessary cash when claiming your bags as we do not accept checks or credit cards from our customers who are deliquent in picking up their bags.
Have a Happy New Year and we look forward to having you fly our state of the art airline in the not to distant future!
Flying to Ft. Lauderdale tomorrow for a coaching course.
Luckily I’m flying Continental DOB.
Folks, I should be tied up most days with this course, however any good stuff for a 23 year old northerner to do at night? Any places good to drown in my sorrows/stare rudely at women/eat very unhealthy foods? Figure some of you southerners or DOB could make a few suggestions…
I’d say playing 1B defense is a very minor issue with Glaus. (DOB)
Not the first time DOB and I have disagreed on something. Playing first isn’t just about being athletic etc… There’s clearly a feel and smoothness element to it. Plus it takes a lot of experience to get yourself to the point where your role is so automatic that you can now make the other infielders better. Keith Hernandez talks about this all the time. He gets so rattled when people think you can just stick a guy on first and it all just comes together. I’m not saying Glaus will be a butcher or won’t adjust over time, but to call it minor isan over statement imo especially when you take into account the three guys who played there before him.
andy — agreed on your 4:49 post. i dont think it’s either/or with bobby cox. he’s been the best regular-season manager in the game for a long while, but the criticisms of his post-season decisions have been fair, and his loyalty to kj and jf just about sunk us last year. not to mention running schafer out there every day injured. but the esteemed nolie is talking longterm performance, and it’s hard to argue with him there. let’s not forget one of cox’s finest seasons was how he handled the baby braves in 2005. yes, it seemed to me he slipped terribly last year, but i’m hoping, with different personnel, those mistakes wont be revisited and he ends his career doing justice to what is a great legacy.
Falcons finally post back to back winning seasons. No playoffs this year but history none the less. Hopefully this offseason they really focus on upgrading that defense.
On Bowden and his assesment of the braves, yeah, Wren took a lot of risk this offseason. I really don’t see Saito and Wagner as any more of an injury risk than Gonzo or Soriano. As long as Bobby realizes he can’t overuse them the way he did Gonzo and Soriano they should be fine. If anything if i’m the O’s i’m a little worried about the innings Gonzo saw last year and how that will affect him this season. Soriano not so much. There is no gurantee any of these guys will be healthy next year, regardless of age.
The loss of Vazquez and the numbers he put up last year hurts but we still have 5 very capable starting pitchers. Our starting pitching is set, its our offense thats the big question mark. Glaus is a risk but I like it. There’s no gurantee that he will be the Troy Glaus of old but at the price we look to be getting him at it’s worth the risk. Hopefully we get someone else for the outfield. Cabrera, Diaz, and McLouth isn’t powerful but Heyward’s close to the bigs and hopefully Mclouth has a better season with us than he did last year. Hopefully Wren’s not done and goes and gets us another bat.
If Atlanta somehow managed to trade for Berkman just where would he and Glaus each play?
If they got Uggla where would he and Prado play? Would Prado be better in LF than what we already have out there? Would Uggla’s defense at second lose more games for us than Prado at second? After watching Uggla for four years I say emphatically yes.
I’m glad I don’t have to make these decisions. I do know I would feel better knowing I had Mitch Jones either on the bench or in Gwinnett if I needed him for LF or 1B. If Chipper went down Glaus could always play 3B and M.Jones could play 1B. I think the man (M.Jones) has many qualities that will benefit Atlanta Braves 2010. I think I know why Wren signed him, M.Jones that is.
jeffrey d………….Andrew in PA is watching the Dallas-Philly game. I tell you why he isnt here: He doesnt want to eat CROW and face the music about how much his Eagles SUCK A$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Since it is halftime do you think the Braves Cheap owners are done investing money into this team to add to the offense, And what are your thoughts on Wagner…?
The Bear
Not saying that he should, but Berkman played the outfield for Houston for several season- I believe he even was considered a CF at one point, so it’s not out of realm of possibilities that he’d play in LF for Braves. However, after stating all that- I don’t believe there’s anything to Berman rumors other than someone on this blog saying “I wonder if Braves could get Berkman.” Just saying he COULD play outfield.
You have a point about getting Berkman outhere to play a corner OF position…Too bad our Owners are going to go Cheap and settle For Schafer, Milky Cabrera, Nate-Dawg and Matty-d Next year. Our lineup scares No One!
Fellow bloggers, I don’t think it’s just Delta that is incompetent at delivering luggage. Last summer, Continental sent our luggage all over Portugal (except for the towns we were actually in) before finally delivering them to us in Lisbon 5 days into our vacation. I bought some new things, but my wife was pregnant and couldn’t find any clothes that fit. Also, Airtran lost our luggage a few years ago (coincidentally during the famous Falcons OT loss to the bucs with Jim Mora on his cell phone). My wife had to buy me some new clothes while I watched that game at a sports bar.
Oh and yeah the Falcons didn’t make the playoffs so you can throw that at me. I’m fine with it now.
Ugh…DEFINITELY needed to lose today. A loss only makes our team a little better next year because of the draft pick. I don’t care about that “no consecutive winning seasons” thing.
Tomahawkin……..I said the other day that I felt that any moves the Braves make from here on out until at least Spring Training, will be minor moves.
Actually, I’m not upset that Frank Wren signed Billy Wagner to be our closer. Billy Wagner has the confident swagger that a closer should have. He still throws hard. As long as he isnt overused, I feel that there is no reason why he cant have a very good year for us.
Meanwhile, it’s still a 3 possession game after the missed field goal by the Eagles. 17-0 Cowboys.
Tomahawkin -
I agree that our OF doesn’t exactly strike fear into the hearts of opposing pitchers… however, gotta disagree with ownership comment. $90-95 million payroll is not cheap- and Liberty seems much more willing to spend money than TimeWarner ever did.
Don’t worry jeffrey – I know Mount Cody is looking doubtful but with 9 picks, the Falcons will be alright.
I don’t care about that “no consecutive winning seasons” thing.
Personally, I don’t care about consecutive winning seasons either but I HATED hearing about how this was going to be the year after every winning season. Now, it’s done so no more talk about it. I am happy we ended with a winning season though.
I want our Cheap owners to make a concertez effort to improve the offense invest 5-6 more mill on the payroll and show the fans that they care about improving our offense. I got really tired of watching our pitchers pitch 7-8 innings giving up 2 runs or less and we lose because of our flat offense
If the Braves want fans to come celebrate Bobby’s last year at the Ted then the cheap owners need to step it up and show that they are serious about improving our lineup which scares No One!
7,406 comments Add your comment
dogsbrekky
January 3rd, 2010
3:32 pm
nolie – Hi mate, I like your opinions…. so who should we be looking at signing at for say $6-8M
nolie
January 3rd, 2010
3:33 pm
Guess there are two ways of looking at this: either a team didn’t improve at all and they were one of the worst teams, or a team made a bunch of trades which will make them lost more games than last year. The Braves have done neither BF forever
I believe that Bowden thinks that the deals we have made actually weaken the team.
I also don’t see what the fact that he got fired for graft has to do with his ability to judge talent and deals, as several other posters have mentioned his firing as if that means anything.
Heyward
January 3rd, 2010
3:34 pm
I think Bowden resigned from the nationals
Burdell
January 3rd, 2010
3:35 pm
must have overlooked this comment. Please go check out all the time gonzo has spent on the dl in his career. He pretty much hangs out on the DL quite often
About as often as Hudson, and apparently Huddy is falling apart to most people. Not to mention that Wags is apparently “injury prone” after the same surgery in the same season as Gonzalez.
Regardless of Gonzalez’s injury history, the fact is that he very recently missed an entire season and is coming off elbow surgery just half a season ago. That fact makes me consider him an injury risk. Add to that Soriano’s mystery illness and missed time, and the two of them don’t really combine to be the lowest risk option in the world. So I would avoid claiming that Atlanta is “more at risk” in their bullpen because of Saito + Wagner replacing Gonzalez + Soriano.
dogsbrekky
January 3rd, 2010
3:40 pm
re our Closers – after the AS break, Mr MFIKY was almost putrid at times and gave up several game losing hr (the Florida game and a few others come to mind), he just seemed to wwear down… so I will take Wagner (even with the injury possibility there)…. Gonzi versus Saito… I love Gonzo cause he made my heart skip a beat or 10 EVERYTIME he threw…. Saito, when healthy is really filthy… so maybe he gives me angina in 2010… hence a tie
Losing Vazquez is painful but he had many awesome innings oftens followed by brain farts for a short time… overall I trust FW’s faith in Hudson… whom I always want on the mound plus a full year of Hanson… so I lean towards 2010 being on par with 2009 as far as SP goes…
Diaz vs Loaf – I will take Diaz (NOW), Glaus vs Kotchie/Roachy… hard one cause of the awesome D of the 2 predecessors, but Glaus is a ++ 3B (or was) and is a former hr beast… say tie
3B – we will see the old Chipper on D this year and a better year in the box… so 2010 > 2009
Add Heyward and we will be better…….. err I pray
Braves_Fan_RSD
January 3rd, 2010
3:40 pm
Dale Murphy’s boy Shawn in the game for Tampa Bay vs Atlanta
Eric from MO
January 3rd, 2010
3:43 pm
Burdell dont forget that Soriano and Gonzo just made a bunch of appearances. Many times this shows up the following season. Meaning you could easily expect their arms to fall off next season.
nolie
January 3rd, 2010
3:44 pm
Since Rafael Furcal left we have not really had a prototypical leadoff guy.
you really need to take a hard look at his entire Atlanta career, cause he really wasn’t all that great a leadoff hitter over that entire time, just for a few years. 320OBPs are crap in leadoff. In fact every year but his rookie year which was abnormal he had a lower OBP than Nate has averaged the last 5 years or so. We have more pressing problems.
Eric from MO
January 3rd, 2010
3:46 pm
Dogsbrekky for most of them I agree, but come on. Glaus tie Kotchman/LaRoache??? Kotchman was solid, and played great defense. LaRoache was unbelievable the 2nd half of the season, offensively and defensively.
Bravoman
January 3rd, 2010
3:49 pm
dogsbrekky,
Well ofcourse we have Omar who’s one of the better bench players in the game imo. He can play everywhere and can swing the bat really well. But my point is if Glaus goes down idk how comfortable I’d be with him over there. I suppose Prado can man 1st while Infante plays 2B, but what if Chipper or Yunel needs the day off. I dont wanna bring up Diory at all this year.
You bring up a solid point about Boras who believes all of his clients are superstars, so if the price is too steep then forget about it. But we do need a back-up 1B/PH for the bench IMO.
Eric from MO
January 3rd, 2010
3:49 pm
Nolie agreed. Furcal showed flashes of greatness, but was also horrible at long stretches of time too. Both offensively and defensively. He had a hell of an arm and great range. Unfortunely many times he tried to do too much and made bonehead plays defensively. People recall his last half season with the Braves, but do you recall the first half of that year?
By the way I was Furcal fan. If nothing else he was fun to watch.
Robert
January 3rd, 2010
3:50 pm
“”I wish Bobby Cox had read this definition last season.”
I seriously doubt Cox can read
Andy
January 3rd, 2010
3:50 pm
Nolie, Cox is one of the big problems. Making lineups and putting the right guys in or not is a huge problem. I understand there are lots of questions with the team right now, but IF you make out the correct lineups and sign one more bat, we’ll be in great shape. Cox making senile decisions is a pressing issue to me. Putting Diaz in left and batting him leadoff will certainly help.
Soph
January 3rd, 2010
3:51 pm
Back to back winning seasons for the Falcons! Now we can stop talking about it.
Bravoman
January 3rd, 2010
3:53 pm
Don’t get me wrong about Glaus I like the sign. I may be one of the few, but I think it’s gonna turn out to be one of the best bargains of the offseason, but we need an insurance policy if he goes down for any long period of time.
TnBrian
January 3rd, 2010
3:57 pm
I can’t wait for this week to get under way for baseball, especially for our Braves. I really think a big signing or trade, probably a trade, is coming soon after the Glaus signing becomes official. I’ve seen Berkman’s name floating around a little bit around here and it’s possible. McLouth and some good prospects could get that done, though more money might need to be freed up for this to happen. More than likely a Uggla or L.Scott type is headed for the Atl., but lets not underestimate the depth Wren now has to work with in his system.
joerochester
January 3rd, 2010
3:58 pm
I would like Berkman, but we already have a 1B.
MaineBrave
January 3rd, 2010
3:59 pm
back to back winning seasons!!!!!!!!
nolie
January 3rd, 2010
4:00 pm
Cox is one of the big problems Andy
he’s just the most convenient scapegoat, no proof that anything would have worked differently, just conjecture. I understand your feeling, but I disagree. Check all the team boards and they all blame the manager for their woes.
nolie
January 3rd, 2010
4:02 pm
I think y’all are dreaming if you think Berkman is coming here. It would be nice though.
cricket
January 3rd, 2010
4:03 pm
I’m sure DOB is being black listed as we speak.
What are they going to do? Lose most of his bags, keep him hanging with promise of delivery for couple of days and then make him pick’em up?
Finally consecutive winning seasons for falcons, woo hoo !!
Blair
January 3rd, 2010
4:03 pm
Bobby Cox is a hall of fame manager. Believe it.
abwright
January 3rd, 2010
4:04 pm
Braves 2010 25 – man … Braves 2009 25 – man
1B – Glaus ……………………..LaRoche
2B – Prado ……………………..Prado
SS – Escobar…………………..Escobar
3B – C. Jones………………….C. Jones
C – McCann…………………….McCann
RF – Cabrera…………………..Church
CF – McLouth………………….McLouth
LF – Diaz……………………….Anderson
OF – M. Jones/Schafer?……Diaz
Utility – Infante………………..Infante
Backup Catcher – Ross…….Ross
PH/Backup 2nd – Conrad?…K. Johnson
SP – Lowe…………………….Lowe
SP – Hudson…………………Hudson
SP – Jurrjens………………..Jurrjens
SP – Hanson………………..Hanson
SP – Kawakami…………….Vazquez
RP – Wagner………………..Soriano
RP – Saito……………………Gonzalez
RP – Moylan…………………Moylan
RP – O’Flaherty……………..O’Flaherty
RP – Medlen…………………Medlen
RP – Chavez………………..Kawakami
RP – Dunn…………………..Logan
RP – Abreu/Proctor/Hyde/Reyes/ …?…Acosta
I think I may be missing something, but, when I look at the 2010 Braves as they are currently constructed versus the 2009 Braves that closed out I see the following …
Is Glaus better than LaRoche?
Is 2010 Chipper better than 2009 Chipper to end the season?
Are Diaz/Cabrera/M. Jones better than Diaz/Church/Anderson?
Is Kawakami better than Vazquez?
Is Lowe 2010 better than Lowe 2009?
Are Wagner/Soriano/Chavez/Dunn/whomever better than Soriano/Gonzalez/Kawakami/Logan/Acosta?
It really looks to me that the 2010 Atlanta Braves will be as good as the 2009 Altanta Braves that finished the season. They should be considerably better than the team that started 2009.
Starting pitching looks a little weaker (Kawakami 2010 won’t be as good as Vazquez 2009, but Lowe 2010 should be better than Lowe 2009, and the others should be comparable). Bullpen looks stronger and deeper.
On the offense and defense, Chipper 2010 should be better than Chipper 2009 to finish the season. McCann 2010 should be better than McCann 2009 (eyes fixed). The outfield defense will be improved.
Defensive Glaus could be comparable (or better) than defensive LaRoche. I love Roachy, but his range was limited. Offensive Glaus should be an upgrade over offensive LaRoche. Or, Glaus could suck. This is the biggest question mark. But, if answered in the affirmative, the 2010 Braves should be better than the very good 2009 Braves at the end of the season.
cabravesfan
January 3rd, 2010
4:05 pm
Isaac Bruce getting a standing ovation from the St. Louis crowd- very classy
VaBraveFan
January 3rd, 2010
4:06 pm
Glaus is a comparable player to Nady. Both are injury prone and have huge question marks. Glaus has higher upside with the power he has. Nady is coming off a 2nd opperation on the same arm. How can Nady command 6-7 mil ?? Nady should garner around the same deal as Glaus. So Nady would be a perfect to back up 1b if Glaus goes down. And he can man a outfield spot. If he cost to much i say go a cheap route with Aubrey Huff. He has some pop in his bat and can play 1b and Corner outfield and has played 3B as well. He hasnt garnered that much attention on the market cause of his two month slump after the trade to the Tigers. But i think he can help this team.
Jimmy Joe
January 3rd, 2010
4:06 pm
Why are people destroying Bowden for knocking Wren’s offseason moves? Get comfortable, because he wasn’t the first, nor the last analyst to critique Frank Wren’s job this offseason.
The Braves swapped Mike Gonzalez, Rafael Soriano, Javier Vazquez, Adam Laroche and their first round draft pick(20th overall) for Billy Wagner, Takashi Saito, Melky Cabrera, Mike Dunn, Arodys Vizcaino, Troy Glaus, a supplemental draft selection(TBD) and the 3rd draft selection in the 2nd round(Orioles -TBD).
I’m sorry, but I can’t quite see how the 25 man roster is better in 2010 than the 2009 version, with the assets that Frank Wren KNEW he had heading into this offseason(meaning he knew Hudson and Heyward, at some point, were add ons, but that doesn’t mean that he needed to make mediocre acquistions to contend with the Phillthies). I know Wren still has 7-9 million to play with, and that’s why the entire analysis of the offseason is still TBD. But to this point, I don’t think it’s fair for Braves fans to destroy Jim Bowden for giving Wren a poor grade on the offseason. They have added a lot of injury prone players, and while Gonzalez and Soriano weren’t spring chickens, at least they were coming off fantastic years.
Lastly, has anyone noticed that Gonzalez, Soriano, and Vazquez led the Braves staff in K’s/9 innings? With Chipper, Glaus, Prado and McLouth, I wouldn’t expect our pitching to be as good with so many more balls being hit into play. Not sure our D is very good at turning those many balls into outs. Not as good as the Mets or Phillthies that is.
JoeC10
January 3rd, 2010
4:10 pm
My biggest fear about our bullpen is that Manny Acosta will be involved in it………I expect the opposing team to score 3-5 runs every time he steps on the mound..
nolie
January 3rd, 2010
4:11 pm
Eric I was kind of a fan too. he could be exciting, but was very inconsistent. I think we have about the best all around SS right now that I can remember seeing in a Braves uni at least right off hand
joerochester
January 3rd, 2010
4:12 pm
The Bills won today. Yay.
TnBrian
January 3rd, 2010
4:13 pm
nolie, what’s a nickname Bobby will/could give Berkman in Atlanta? Berky? How ’bout Lancey? Look, he would give the lineup another switch hitter which is a rare commodity in this game. I hope we get him… lol
Tomahawkin
January 3rd, 2010
4:18 pm
Go Eagles!
Today is the start of the end of the Cowturds season…!
Andy
January 3rd, 2010
4:21 pm
Nolie, completely disagree with you on your statement about Cox. I love the guy and will hate to see him go, but how can you defend his lineups and use of the bullpen? Who else can I blame for these irrational decisions? You can always say 20/20 hindsight but look at the stats. Why did KJ keep batting leadoff? Why keep Schafer, KJ, and Frenchy in there so long? Why not bat Diaz leadoff? LaRoche should have been moved up higher in the order during his torrid second half There’s only one man you can blame for these decisions, and it’s Cox. Not sure who else is suppose to be the scapegoat?
Tomahawkin
January 3rd, 2010
4:22 pm
I’m not High on Glaus at all…
His defense is gonna be garbage after watching the slick fielding LaRoche last year and the KJotchmeister before that
Since the Owners are going Cheap I’d take Julio Franco over Glaus
Salamander
January 3rd, 2010
4:23 pm
Glaus is a comparable player to Nady. Both are injury prone and have huge question marks. Glaus has higher upside with the power he has. Nady is coming off a 2nd operation on the same arm. How can Nady command 6-7 mil ?
Scott Boras.
Tomahawkin
January 3rd, 2010
4:24 pm
Cowboys! Arrghhh!!!
Braves_Fan_RSD
January 3rd, 2010
4:26 pm
I’m not High on Glaus at all…
His defense is gonna be garbage after watching the slick fielding LaRoche last year and the KJotchmeister before that
Since the Owners are going Cheap I’d take Julio Franco over Glaus
Well you may not be High on Glaus but if you want Franco over Glaus you are “high” on something
JoeC10
January 3rd, 2010
4:26 pm
With all the complaints about LaRoche batting so low in the lineup, I have to ask….Didn’t the Braves play their best ball during the time LaRoche was batting 7th or so? What more did you want?
Salamander
January 3rd, 2010
4:27 pm
Cowboys! Arrghhh!!!
I’m surprised PL isn’t clogging up the blog with Cowboy slurping.
Andy K.
January 3rd, 2010
4:28 pm
Tomahawkin, good, because I just talked to Troy and he’s not high on you either. lol
JoeC10
January 3rd, 2010
4:29 pm
Also, Kotchmann was very grood defensively and LaRoche was also very solid, however Glaus was a plus defender at 3rd so I think he is going to be far from garbage at a much easier position. You’re asking him to field ground balls and keep his toe on a base as he catches a ball…….really people think about what you are saying before you say it.
Soph
January 3rd, 2010
4:32 pm
cab, who ya got in the playoffs?
cabravesfan
January 3rd, 2010
4:36 pm
Soph-
I’d like to see the Colts or Chargers and the Saints, but Philly’s looking awfully good…
Chris from the Rock
January 3rd, 2010
4:38 pm
Falcons off the shnide! Now the Hawks turn. Time to get past the second round of the playoffs. But they better learn how to beat the Knicks first.
cabravesfan
January 3rd, 2010
4:39 pm
Let me amend that- Philly has looked awfully good, save the first 12 minutes of this game…
Soph
January 3rd, 2010
4:41 pm
But they better learn how to beat the Knicks first.
Sadly, they own us this year.
Redstick19
January 3rd, 2010
4:43 pm
where’s all of this Berkman chatter coming from? I’ve not seen one credible report linking him to Atlanta. Would it be a great pickup? Hell yes. Is Houston looking to get rid of him? I would say hell no. They’d be dumb to do that- he’s the face of the franchise.
Soph
January 3rd, 2010
4:44 pm
cab – anyone but the Cowboys for me. I’d like to see the Bengals, Chargers or Packers win it all though.
Could you imagine if Aaron Rodgers won the Super Bowl? I feel so bad for the guy. Constantly in the shadow of his predecessor.
cabravesfan
January 3rd, 2010
4:48 pm
Soph-
Totally agree on the cowboys…and I can’t pull for the Packers either (sorry Tom!) but I would love to see Aaron Rogers crush his predecessor
Andy
January 3rd, 2010
4:49 pm
JoeC10, the Braves played their best ball when Wren got rid of Frenchy, and Schafer was FINALLY sent down. KJ also got hurt so Prado could play. Diaz, prado and Brandon Jones should have taken over for these guys early on but Cox kept keep throwing three rally killers out there and we dug ourselves too big of a hole. Thankfully, Wren added LaRoche and McLouth which forced Cox to play even better players. As long as Wren keeps the crap away from Cox we’ll be okay.
Nolie, how can you defend Cox’s use of Norton so many times in crucial situations?
Tomahawkin
January 3rd, 2010
4:51 pm
Andy K, LOL you got Jokes…?
nolie
January 3rd, 2010
4:53 pm
Nolie, completely disagree with you on your statement about Cox Andy
yeah, you and a number of others.Certainly y’all’s right.
I was never anywhere where an incompetent person ended up in a hall of fame. That just is not the way the world works. Bobby is admired by 90+% of the people who actually make their living in baseball, and I’ll take that over any fan’s reaction every day.
Every board on the net rips their manager to shreds. It’s the nature of fan reaction.
I understand how you feel and I’ve read the arguments, I just don’t buy into it at all. Not saying he is perfect, but neither are any of the others he is competing against. They all have their pluses and minuses.
We are just gonna hafta agree to disagree about this one Andy.
Tomahawkin
January 3rd, 2010
4:57 pm
Andy Agreed on your last post…
I called out Bobby C and Pendleton so many times for the teams lack of offense and having a sense of urgency so many times last season it was sick!
I don’t know why Bobby C had Roachy hitting 7th in the second half last year when everyone knows that Roach’y Clowns in the second half…!
Tomahawkin
January 3rd, 2010
4:58 pm
Where is the Infamous Paul Lentz bragging about his Cowturds?
Eric In Albany N.Y.
January 3rd, 2010
4:58 pm
complain complain complain about bobby cox… relax if you dont like him you wont have to complain after 2010, you complain bobby used guys who didnt work out? as if he had any oprions
to go with someone who was going to work out. he used who he had and who was next in rank on the roster. stop bi**hing he will be replaced with someone you all wont like for the 2011 season!
Rob in pain from (SC)
January 3rd, 2010
4:58 pm
nolie
The only issue I have with Bobby Cox, is that there are times when his loyality hurts the team. Martin Prado is a better player than Kelly Johnson but Cox refused to make the change until KJ got hurt. Diaz should have been playing over Francoeur.
Heyward
January 3rd, 2010
5:00 pm
2002 division series Cox used Keith Lockhart over Mark Derosa at 2nd base…enough said…same series Tommy G gave up 4 runs in the 1st inning…came up to bat in the 2nd inning 2 outs bases loaded Cox left him in only to go back out in the 3rd and give up 3 more runs making it 7-0 Giants…..That’s Bobby Cox in a nutshell…sticks with his favorite players regardless of the situation……
Heyward
January 3rd, 2010
5:03 pm
cox should have been fired years ago…2002 in my book……to me he is the greatest bench coach there good be…but the worst manager
abwright
January 3rd, 2010
5:05 pm
Rob in pain from (SC), January 3rd, 2010, 4:58 pm … “Martin Prado is a better player than Kelly Johnson but Cox refused to make the change until KJ got hurt.”
Revisionist history. Change was made, formally, then KJ went onto the DL (a few days later).
Prado had been injured for some time before the switch. As soon as he came back healthy, the switch was made.
When KJ came back from the DL, he got very little playing time.
jeffrey d
January 3rd, 2010
5:12 pm
you complain bobby used guys who didnt work out? as if he had any oprions
I’d literally feel more comfortable with some of our pitchers pinch hitting before Norton. But in Bobby’s head, Greg was a pinch hitting whiz
bravesgrl4life
January 3rd, 2010
5:12 pm
Okay, can we quit griping about KJ now that he’s agreed to a deal with the Dbacks? I still like the dude.
jeffrey d
January 3rd, 2010
5:15 pm
Prado had been injured for some time before the switch
I don’t remeber Prado being hurt. He had been playing almost every day or at least every other day.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7737/gamelog;_ylt=Aqy9yHonsnXVFZd_Oaq7fWOFCLcF
Delta Airline Baggage Dept.
January 3rd, 2010
5:16 pm
Mr. O’Brien.
We are writing to inform you that we have now been holding your bags for close to 72 hours. As is cutomary the first 24 hours are included with your flight ticket. However, there is a $25/bag charge for each additional 24 hours thereafter. Please be sure to bring the necessary cash when claiming your bags as we do not accept checks or credit cards from our customers who are deliquent in picking up their bags.
Have a Happy New Year and we look forward to having you fly our state of the art airline in the not to distant future!
Mitchie-san
January 3rd, 2010
5:21 pm
“DOB
Hope they didn’t send your bags to Honolulu…”
Should I go check?
unbelievable
January 3rd, 2010
5:21 pm
prado had a groin injury at some point
Mitchie-san
January 3rd, 2010
5:22 pm
“DOB
Hope they didn’t send your bags to Honolulu…”–McFann
oops.
pryguy
January 3rd, 2010
5:24 pm
Flying to Ft. Lauderdale tomorrow for a coaching course.
Luckily I’m flying Continental DOB.
Folks, I should be tied up most days with this course, however any good stuff for a 23 year old northerner to do at night? Any places good to drown in my sorrows/stare rudely at women/eat very unhealthy foods? Figure some of you southerners or DOB could make a few suggestions…
Anders
January 3rd, 2010
5:28 pm
I’d say playing 1B defense is a very minor issue with Glaus. (DOB)
Not the first time DOB and I have disagreed on something. Playing first isn’t just about being athletic etc… There’s clearly a feel and smoothness element to it. Plus it takes a lot of experience to get yourself to the point where your role is so automatic that you can now make the other infielders better. Keith Hernandez talks about this all the time. He gets so rattled when people think you can just stick a guy on first and it all just comes together. I’m not saying Glaus will be a butcher or won’t adjust over time, but to call it minor isan over statement imo especially when you take into account the three guys who played there before him.
.P.a.u.l .L.e.n.t.z
January 3rd, 2010
5:29 pm
Salamander…………….I’ve been too busy cheering all the good things the Cowboys have done in the first half, I simply forgot about chiming in here.
By the way, where the FCUK is Andrew in PA?
chipperchop
January 3rd, 2010
5:29 pm
What is this nonsense about Berkman playing in Atlanta? Not going to happen.
.P.a.u.l .L.e.n.t.z
January 3rd, 2010
5:31 pm
Andrew in PA…………..Where are you? Come out, come out, come out wherever you are!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jed
January 3rd, 2010
5:31 pm
andy — agreed on your 4:49 post. i dont think it’s either/or with bobby cox. he’s been the best regular-season manager in the game for a long while, but the criticisms of his post-season decisions have been fair, and his loyalty to kj and jf just about sunk us last year. not to mention running schafer out there every day injured. but the esteemed nolie is talking longterm performance, and it’s hard to argue with him there. let’s not forget one of cox’s finest seasons was how he handled the baby braves in 2005. yes, it seemed to me he slipped terribly last year, but i’m hoping, with different personnel, those mistakes wont be revisited and he ends his career doing justice to what is a great legacy.
Jake W.
January 3rd, 2010
5:32 pm
Falcons finally post back to back winning seasons. No playoffs this year but history none the less. Hopefully this offseason they really focus on upgrading that defense.
On Bowden and his assesment of the braves, yeah, Wren took a lot of risk this offseason. I really don’t see Saito and Wagner as any more of an injury risk than Gonzo or Soriano. As long as Bobby realizes he can’t overuse them the way he did Gonzo and Soriano they should be fine. If anything if i’m the O’s i’m a little worried about the innings Gonzo saw last year and how that will affect him this season. Soriano not so much. There is no gurantee any of these guys will be healthy next year, regardless of age.
The loss of Vazquez and the numbers he put up last year hurts but we still have 5 very capable starting pitchers. Our starting pitching is set, its our offense thats the big question mark. Glaus is a risk but I like it. There’s no gurantee that he will be the Troy Glaus of old but at the price we look to be getting him at it’s worth the risk. Hopefully we get someone else for the outfield. Cabrera, Diaz, and McLouth isn’t powerful but Heyward’s close to the bigs and hopefully Mclouth has a better season with us than he did last year. Hopefully Wren’s not done and goes and gets us another bat.
jeffrey d
January 3rd, 2010
5:34 pm
By the way, where the FCUK is Andrew in PA?
Maybe he does stuff outside of blog
jeffrey d
January 3rd, 2010
5:35 pm
Maybe he does stuff outside of THE blog
THE BEAR Illegitimi non carborundum
January 3rd, 2010
5:39 pm
If Atlanta somehow managed to trade for Berkman just where would he and Glaus each play?
If they got Uggla where would he and Prado play? Would Prado be better in LF than what we already have out there? Would Uggla’s defense at second lose more games for us than Prado at second? After watching Uggla for four years I say emphatically yes.
I’m glad I don’t have to make these decisions. I do know I would feel better knowing I had Mitch Jones either on the bench or in Gwinnett if I needed him for LF or 1B. If Chipper went down Glaus could always play 3B and M.Jones could play 1B. I think the man (M.Jones) has many qualities that will benefit Atlanta Braves 2010. I think I know why Wren signed him, M.Jones that is.
.P.a.u.l .L.e.n.t.z
January 3rd, 2010
5:39 pm
jeffrey d………….Andrew in PA is watching the Dallas-Philly game. I tell you why he isnt here: He doesnt want to eat CROW and face the music about how much his Eagles SUCK A$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
17-0 Dallas at the half.
Tomahawkin
January 3rd, 2010
5:41 pm
What a disgusting 1st half for the Eagles…! I was temped to turn it off and watch some old Rasslin on Youtube…
Instead I’m gonna hang in there bump some old Public Announcement Feat R. Kelly “Body Bumpin” (Yippie Yi Yo) and keep tuned in for the 3rd qtr…
Soph
January 3rd, 2010
5:42 pm
I don’t think he ever blogs during the game though. He’ll probably show up afterwards.
Honestly, yeah Dallas beat the Eagles twice but you’ll end the season with the same record as them. So, I say they both suck equally.
Tomahawkin
January 3rd, 2010
5:43 pm
P-Lentz
I will face the sweet chin music
Since it is halftime do you think the Braves Cheap owners are done investing money into this team to add to the offense, And what are your thoughts on Wagner…?
Soph
January 3rd, 2010
5:45 pm
Oh and yeah the Falcons didn’t make the playoffs so you can throw that at me. I’m fine with it now.
Redstick19
January 3rd, 2010
5:46 pm
The Bear
Not saying that he should, but Berkman played the outfield for Houston for several season- I believe he even was considered a CF at one point, so it’s not out of realm of possibilities that he’d play in LF for Braves. However, after stating all that- I don’t believe there’s anything to Berman rumors other than someone on this blog saying “I wonder if Braves could get Berkman.” Just saying he COULD play outfield.
Tomahawkin
January 3rd, 2010
5:48 pm
Soph
I think you are right because I vaguely remember him blogging during the braves games…
And It’s gonna suck listening to Chip Caray for 130+ games
Anders
January 3rd, 2010
5:50 pm
Mr. Lentz – Maybe Andrew in PA is out returning the Milton Bradley Braves jersey you convinced him to buy a few weeks back?
Tomahawkin
January 3rd, 2010
5:51 pm
Redstick
You have a point about getting Berkman outhere to play a corner OF position…Too bad our Owners are going to go Cheap and settle For Schafer, Milky Cabrera, Nate-Dawg and Matty-d Next year. Our lineup scares No One!
.P.a.u.l .L.e.n.t.z
January 3rd, 2010
5:52 pm
Tomahawkin…..dont hate……..appreciate.
Soph
January 3rd, 2010
5:53 pm
Come on T’Hawkin, it won’t be that bad with Chip Caray. At least it’s not Bob Rathbun. He drives me crazy during Hawks games.
Fred
January 3rd, 2010
5:53 pm
Fellow bloggers, I don’t think it’s just Delta that is incompetent at delivering luggage. Last summer, Continental sent our luggage all over Portugal (except for the towns we were actually in) before finally delivering them to us in Lisbon 5 days into our vacation. I bought some new things, but my wife was pregnant and couldn’t find any clothes that fit. Also, Airtran lost our luggage a few years ago (coincidentally during the famous Falcons OT loss to the bucs with Jim Mora on his cell phone). My wife had to buy me some new clothes while I watched that game at a sports bar.
jeffrey d
January 3rd, 2010
5:54 pm
So, I say they both suck equally.
Agreed.
Oh and yeah the Falcons didn’t make the playoffs so you can throw that at me. I’m fine with it now.
Ugh…DEFINITELY needed to lose today. A loss only makes our team a little better next year because of the draft pick. I don’t care about that “no consecutive winning seasons” thing.
Anders
January 3rd, 2010
5:54 pm
Note to self: Don’t travel with Fred.
THE BEAR Illegitimi non carborundum
January 3rd, 2010
5:55 pm
Tomahawkin, how much would the Braves have to spend to get you off the “our Owners are going to go Cheap” routine?
You are almost as good as P.LENTZ in repeating something, ALMOST AS GOOD.
jeffrey d
January 3rd, 2010
5:55 pm
And It’s gonna suck listening to Chip Caray for 130+ games
I agree, but where did that come from??
jeffrey d
January 3rd, 2010
5:57 pm
I’d rather have Rathbun than Chip
.P.a.u.l .L.e.n.t.z
January 3rd, 2010
5:57 pm
Tomahawkin……..I said the other day that I felt that any moves the Braves make from here on out until at least Spring Training, will be minor moves.
Actually, I’m not upset that Frank Wren signed Billy Wagner to be our closer. Billy Wagner has the confident swagger that a closer should have. He still throws hard. As long as he isnt overused, I feel that there is no reason why he cant have a very good year for us.
Meanwhile, it’s still a 3 possession game after the missed field goal by the Eagles. 17-0 Cowboys.
Redstick19
January 3rd, 2010
5:58 pm
Tomahawkin -
I agree that our OF doesn’t exactly strike fear into the hearts of opposing pitchers… however, gotta disagree with ownership comment. $90-95 million payroll is not cheap- and Liberty seems much more willing to spend money than TimeWarner ever did.
Soph
January 3rd, 2010
5:58 pm
Don’t worry jeffrey – I know Mount Cody is looking doubtful but with 9 picks, the Falcons will be alright.
I don’t care about that “no consecutive winning seasons” thing.
Personally, I don’t care about consecutive winning seasons either but I HATED hearing about how this was going to be the year after every winning season. Now, it’s done so no more talk about it. I am happy we ended with a winning season though.
Jake W.
January 3rd, 2010
5:58 pm
Come on T’Hawkin, it won’t be that bad with Chip Caray. At least it’s not Bob Rathbun. He drives me crazy during Hawks games.
Couldn’t agree more. I’ll take Caray over Rathbun anyday.
joerochester
January 3rd, 2010
5:59 pm
Good thing they play two halves, Lentz.
Soph
January 3rd, 2010
5:59 pm
I’d rather have Rathbun than Chip
Hell to the no. Not me. It was torture pre-Joe Simpson & Boog! Don’t you remember?
Tomahawkin
January 3rd, 2010
5:59 pm
The Bear
LOL No One Can Tough P Lentz…
I want our Cheap owners to make a concertez effort to improve the offense invest 5-6 more mill on the payroll and show the fans that they care about improving our offense. I got really tired of watching our pitchers pitch 7-8 innings giving up 2 runs or less and we lose because of our flat offense
If the Braves want fans to come celebrate Bobby’s last year at the Ted then the cheap owners need to step it up and show that they are serious about improving our lineup which scares No One!
jeffrey d
January 3rd, 2010
5:59 pm
The way I see it, Rathbun is just annoying. Chip is annyoing and cheesy