Wren making bold moves; we pick Best CDs of ‘09

thats wrong lol

should be

P = (y – x + a) – b sorry bout that lol

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Oh yeah, now you tell me.

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Dave,

Have a glorious time in Whistler. I was in Vancouver in October, so I know how beautiful it is there. Enjoy your vacation and thanks for all you do to keep us informed.
And to all – I wish you a joyous holiday season.

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Im going to take advantage of my Season tickets and go to the game dressed in full Trojan body armor me and my buddies are going to be:

Glaus’s Men of Troy!

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Tom O’ Hawke speaking of ancient battle heroes You know In The Heat of the Night they were stationed in Sparta Mississippi I would absolutely love to see a spoof of the of 300 with carroll o connor screaming “THIS IS SPARTA” then kicking a dude into his jail sail. LoL me and my crazy thoughts lol!

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Yes, in hindsight, this team constructed now is better than the one that we had last season, but people seem to forget that the lineup we had last season was SUPPOSED to be pretty solid too.

Wren at the beginning of last season: “We may not have that ‘perrenial 30 home run guy’ but we have a lineup full of solid hitters who could all hit 15-25 homers.”

At the start of spring training 2009:

Kelly Johnson (was considered by MANY Braves fans to be one of the top 5 offensive second basemen in the NL. Primed for a break-out season. After how strong he finished out ‘08, that wasn’t a stretch at all)

Yunel Escobar.

Chipper Jones ( Hit .364 in 2008 and one of the best hitters in the majors. NO WAY he has a bad season)

Brian McCann.

Garret Anderson. ( Plan D, but was still considered a “professional hitter” who would provide solid ABs)

Jeff Francouer. (Mr. “I got my swagger back.” After all of the crap we heard about him; Frenchy going to Jaramillo, Frenchy changes his batting stance, Frenchy sees results, Frenchy enjoys playing baseball again, everyone was on the “Frenchy’s going to bounce back” bandwagon. Even Chipper Jones claimed that he was going to be the big power-hitter the team needs.)

Casey Kotchman. (might not set the world on fire, but he still should be a solid presence in the line-up. Along with GG caliber defense)

Jordan Schafer. ( He may be a rookie, but no way he bombs so badly, he would be considered an automatic out in the line-up. Definitely an upgrade over what we had in the OF in ‘08)

So while the end results wasn’t pretty, the lineup that came into the ‘09 season was supposed to be really solid..like we’re claiming this lineup is suppose to be. At this point last year, I doubt many people would’ve taken Glaus/Prado/Cabrera/Heyward over Francouer/Johnson/Anderson/Kotchman.

My point is, like Francouer/Johnson/Schafer having great seasons, Heyward, Glaus, Cabrera, Chipper (going pre-2009) are not sure things either. IMO, Heyward/Glaus/Cabrera/the rotation performing as great as they did in ‘09/Chipper bouncing back/Prado continuing to excel are bigger question marks than we had going into last season. Saying Heyward > Francouer is BS. As great a prospect as he is, the dude hasn’t played a single game above AA. Can we please wait until he plays a few ML games before we proclaim him the second coming of Albert Pujols? This time next season, we could be saying: “Damn, if we didn’t have Heyward and Glaus in the line-up in the first half, we could’ve made the playoffs!!’ I seriously doubt it, but it could happen.

Yes, I am a glass half-empty guy when it comes to this Braves team. I can’t help it. I can see too many things going poorly to get overly excited about the 2010 season.

..And the fact that you can pretty much pencil in the Phillies for about 105 wins doesn’t help matters either.

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Holy crap, that was way too long. Sorry for that.

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Saying Heyward > Francouer is BS. As great a prospect as he is, the dude hasn’t played a single game above AA. HomeofdaBraves

Actually Heyward has played 3 games at AAA and hit .364/.462/.364/.826

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And just so you know Brian McCann never played above AA before being called up to the Majors his only games ever in AAA was last season on a rehab stint.

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Yes it does. No sarcasm intended

Please explain that to me????

Last year Halladay was worth .5 more wins than Cliff Lee according to WAR (wins above replacement)

Polonco was worth about 1.6 more than Feliz

Gload was worth -0.1

so lets see .5 + 1.6 – .1 = 2.0 wins where exactly are they getting the other 10?

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Phillies w/ 12 incremental wins over last season with those additions/subtractions? Prove that math.

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“Home/Braves

2009 season split w/Phillies 10-8
Seems like they competed pretty well against them last year.”

Yes, The Braves were 7-1 against the Phillies at first when they were probably playing worse baseball than the Braves were. The last 10 games, the Braves went 3-7 against them.

Sort of a hollow victory, IMO.

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I WAS A WREN DEFENDER UNTIL THIS WEEK,

BRAVES ARE WORSE OFF AFTER 3 DAYS OF GIVEAWAYS AND OVER-THE-HILL SIGNINGS THAN THEY WERE AT THIS TIME LAST YEAR AND NOT LIKELY TO GET MUCH BETTER THIS YEAR.

THE LOWE FOR GARY MATTHEWS, JR TRADE RUMOR SOUNDED LIKE A GOOD IDEA TO ME, OR TRADE THE FARM FOR ADRIAN GONZALEZ. BUT KEEP THE GOOD ROTATUIN INTACT.

BUT, WHEN JAVY VASQUEZ WAS TRADED, I BECAME A NATS FAN.

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER TO TRADE CHIPPER TO THE AL. IF HE PLAYS 3B LIKE HE DID IN AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER LAST YEAR, WREN AND THE BRAVES FANS WILL ALL BE SORRY HE WASN’T TRADED WHILE HE WAS STILL WORTH SOMETHING.

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Tom did you look at that forum I showed ya?

I have it up on a different screen. When I first looked at it, I thought it was a Vegas betting line. Obviously, I was a tad off.

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I WAS A WREN DEFENDER UNTIL THIS WEEK,

BRAVES ARE WORSE OFF AFTER 3 DAYS OF GIVEAWAYS AND OVER-THE-HILL SIGNINGS THAN THEY WERE AT THIS TIME LAST YEAR AND NOT LIKELY TO GET MUCH BETTER THIS YEAR.

THE LOWE FOR GARY MATTHEWS, JR TRADE RUMOR SOUNDED LIKE A GOOD IDEA TO ME, OR TRADE THE FARM FOR ADRIAN GONZALEZ. BUT KEEP THE GOOD ROTATUIN INTACT.

BUT, WHEN JAVY VASQUEZ WAS TRADED, I BECAME A NATS FAN.

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER TO TRADE CHIPPER TO THE AL. IF HE PLAYS 3B LIKE HE DID IN AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER LAST YEAR, WREN AND THE BRAVES FANS WILL ALL BE SORRY HE WASN’T TRADED WHILE HE WAS STILL WORTH SOMETHING.

You obviously don’t look at the big picture here

1. Why was the Vazquez trade so bad???? I’m sure you are familiar with the Braves farm system so let me tell you what we got for ONE let me repeat ONE SEASON of Vazquez.

a. Julio Teheran (Vizcaino) There have been reports that Vizcaino could rank as high as Freeman in the Braves system but is no worse than 4th. That my friend is a very good prospect and his ratings compare very favorably to Tommy Hanson compare Viz and Hanson on baseball cube you will see what I mean.

b. Luis Valdez (Dunn) I know Valdez is RH and Dunn is LH but both have nasty stuff with closer ability. Dunn is better than Valdez at this point though.

c. Matt Diaz (Cabrera) What Melky lacks in bat he makes up for in defense compared to Diaz.

That is a pretty good haul for a 1 year rental.

Lowe for GMJ hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!! ok let me catch my breath hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha sorry it was impulsive. Yeah lets trade Lowe for a guy who will never see the field and take up just about as much salary good one man where are you next playing in what comedy club???

Most people do not understand that MELKY CABRERA WAS THE WORST PLAYER WE GOT BACK IN THAT DEAL. Viz and Dunn are the prizes here.

and once again to GMJ hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

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DOB,
Was glad to see U2’s No Line on the Horizon as one of your top 50 CDs of 2009. I was lucky enough to get passes to U2’s 360 Show in Vega$ in October. We were standing about ten feet away from the stage. Was able to watch Black Eyed Peas open up for U2, and they were not as bad as I thought. At all. Anyway, it was U2 that put on a great show. This was the first time that I saw U2 live, and it was amazing. Not to mention, I was standing a few feet away from Jason Sudekis and Will Forte from Saturday Night Live and Penn Jillette from Penn and Teller. Bono said that Bill Clinton was in attendance, although we never saw him. Keep up the good work on the ole blog! Going back to lurking mode now!

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I enjoyed reading the conversation last night- Tom O’Hawke you are the man. DOB,if you read this just wanted you to know as a recently retired person,1.5 years ago,the pleasure this blog brings to me. I laughed when somebody said a lot of people spend all day on this blog- well, I don’t spend all day here but usually catch up frequently. You are amazing to me in the tirelessness of your devotion to we Braves fans, so much you do is beyond your job description,I am sure. May God Bless you,and Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas to all my friends on the blog.

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awesome Yom ttyl man Merry Christmas

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Frank does some strange stuff sometimes but I like the way he seems to cherrish the farm system. He has had a good but eventful offseason. Now he needs to “finish the job” and spend the other $13.5 million to better our team.

With that much money, there are many options.

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By the time Wren re-tools the roster and waits on the big young guy’s down on the farm to come up, Chipper will be over the hill and we will have to trade a bunch of our “prospects” for a third baseman.

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We are basing the success of the Cabera trade on prospects. Thats not good . Sounds like the Pirate front office has taken over.

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Nice picture, DOB. But Lee “Six Million Dollar Man” Majors sure has gone to seed. He really needs a haircut, and does not wear a cowboy hat well.

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John Tucker – Derek Lowe for Gary Matthews Jr? Really? REALLY?

Seriously, it’s too early to tell about the Vazquez trade. This much we do know, however – the Braves in effect traded one year of Vaz for three years of Huddy (and at a reduced price).

THAT’S the “trade” that matters most … and based on history, it was a smart one for the Braves to make.

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DOB,
I think that Wren is looking at what made the braves successful in the 90’s. Great pitching and good defense. I think he is working with limited resources and trying to be competitive next year but the real prize will come two or three years down the road. The fans got spoiled with postseasons coming automatically. Look at the 03 series with the cubs when turner field was wrigley south. Success was taken for granted. You have to keep in mind what the team went through before the run. They were insignificant for a long time.
I think you sell high with JV because his career suggests that he will not repeat last year. You also don’t sell low with Lowe (sorry couldn’t help it). His career suggests that he will be a solid pitcher. He may not set the world on fire and his contract suggests that he should but he will keep chugging along.
If Glaus can even put up his 08 numbers, he will be a good pick up. If Hudson and Wagner can go without setbacks, we should be in good shape. I don’t see Chipper cranking out .360 seasons again but I also don’t see his career crashing in the end. He is too much of a solid player to go totally at once without injury.
I am hoping that this year works out for them. Last year we had pitching and a severe hitting slump. In 08 we had hitting but had a MASH unit rotation. Just hoping everyone can stay relatively healthy and avoid career altering slumps. Have a merry christmas, a happy new year and safe travels.

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if the incentive total is 6mil which was the first estimate, then they have to budget 6 mil, which eats up most of that 8mil savings

Yup, nolie. I thought the same thing too. Although maybe we do have a bit more to spend?

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Efrim, using that logic it would mean we only have about 2mil left. Let’s say we wanted to sign DeRosa or Nady at 6mil, Cabrera and his projected 4mil will have to be traded.

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Love the creative move for Glaus. If you can get him to play 150, you can pencil him in for 35 bombs. And after a day of adjusting to the Vazquez deal, I like it. Imagine, it’s as if we traded Diaz,O’Flaherty and Teheran for him. We’d be pissed if we made that deal, so I think it’s great in the we get probably the best 4th outfielder in baseball, a live young bullpen arm from the left side and a pitcher who would be a top 5 prospect (usually higher) in any organization.

Now I think Wren needs to and is going to make one more move this offseason. I think it’s going to involve one of these players Xavier Nady, Mark DeRosa, Jermaine Dye, Johnny Damon, Eric Hinske. Basically experienced guys w/ pop who can start in the OF and play good 1B in a pinch. I think in Wrens eyes Nady is his man, but Boras could wrangle up a mystery team to guarntee him some money and he could become to expensive. But I think Wren can bank on the fact the price is going to be pretty low due to his injury last year. So I think Xavier Nady is most likely to be the final addition.
The next 3 are sort of wildcards. Wren would be hoping they would take a discount to come to Atlanta. The most likely of these is DeRosa, but he’s looking for a good payday and he may get it from a team like the Giants. Damon could manufacture interest from the Braves in a similar way that Griffey did last year, but after looking how he left his beloved Boston for the evil empire…I don’t see Damon as the type if guy to take a discount and Wren has been pretty adament about how he prefers a right handed bat and w/ McLouth and McCann in the lineup and Heyward and Freeman waiting in the wings, this may deter him from grabbin’ a left even more so. With Dye, I think Wren would be afraid it could turn into Garret Anderson/Raul Mondesi/Brian Jordan part 4, and Dye would probably find a team like Texas who can pay him more than the Braves would be comfortable doing. But if they Rangers land Vlad…ya never know. And I think if Wren comes up short on these 4 for a myriad of reasons, he’ll try and land the poor man’s version of them, Eric Hinske. Again, however, like Damon, he is a lefty, but after the previous 4 he is the best option.
Let’s see what Wren can get done after New Years. My money is on Xavier Nady, our new LF,backup 1B and 6th place hitter.

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DOB,
I just wanted to wish you, Wayne, Nolie, N8, CB, Efrim and all the other Brave fanatics, and ever Lentz,Paul…a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year..Let’s hope all (except for Anders and a few other naysayers) wake up to Matt Holliday or Marlon Byrd or any live bat (maybe Hank Blaylock to back up Chipper and Glaus) in your stocking..

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DOB its been a interesting, informative, head scratching, and sometimes down right hilarious time on here this year. We now look to close the door on 2009 .
And we want to close that door for sure, whew, what a year in Brovo land!
Hope you and your family have a safe and Merry Christmas

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DOB, great year end stuff. Fun to read for sure.

I’m fine with Wren being bold and certain in his moves. I pretty much like and agree with all of them, and of course their are a few that early on you shake your head but then realize that he is also trying to stack the deck for the future. Obviously he is trying to stock pile arms to either trade or hope they pan out into a newer version of Maddux/Glavine/Smoltz. Speaking of the trio, I am fine with not re-signing Smoltz and letting Glavine go. Someone had to do it, and in both cases it was the right move. I just think if Wren had offered up a confetti parade, it would have been a better PR move than how they were handled. And here’s to hoping Glavine ends up in the big office and that Maddux comes back this spring. I will make the drive down for that.

Last thing on Wren…had his missed opportunities not been so public (you remember Griffey right? He he), we wouldn’t be talking about it much. But alas they became public and here we are. Some of JS’s missed trades have become public in recent years and the one where he traded for Bonds and woke up the next morning to find out Leyland nixed it would have been a huge PR nightmare if it had happened present day. I’d like to see Wren hold his cards a little closer to the vest. Seems everyone knew our motivation going into the offseason.

One thing not mentioned much on here was the Spanish paper that quoted Vaz as saying he turned down a trade to the Angels….wonder if that was for Rivera? Might be worth looking into.

I like the risks with Glaus and Wagner. I think they are fairly safe risks. I would have thought long and hard about letting Huddy walk and resigning Vaz. That’s a tough one but I don’t think you can go wrong either way unless Huddy hurts the arm again. ANd I can understand making that call based on both pitchers track record.

One concern though does have to be the amount of repaired arms and shoulders we have. Glaus, Wagner, Saito, Huddy and even rubber arm Moylan, all recent surgeries. And if we add Nady….that could be a disaster waiting to happen.

Man, I think I might have bought 12 CD’s this year. Actually, make that downloaded. I can’t find CD’s anymore, not even in the big box stores. One of my local Buy More’s (Best Buy to you non-Chuck fans) didn’t even have DBT’s on the shelf! I’m a big fan of the DBT and Patterson releases, but I really dig The Monsters of Folk. Temazcal might be my song of the year, which is strange for me because I usually like the rocking stuff more. Still sore I didnt go see their NYC show when I was there.

Looking forward to 2010. Could be a good decade for our team if these pitchers pan out, and Wren comes across a few boppers.

And cheers to you for writing articles, game stories, trade stories, and keeping up with the blog like you do…regardless of what Susan in OH says about the sauce. Hey Susan, it’s authentic, and it’s spectacular!

18 WOL

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Moby Grape

Glaus signing for 1B = D Hoosier

wow that’s hard to understand. he has more potential upside than anybody else they were discussing and he is cheap. Great pick up IMO.

Here is my reason for the D Grade…

We have the pitching staff to contend – many teams can’t say that right now. We have to take advantage of that luxury.

To be brutally honest, we have a lot of holes & question marks.

Mac & Yuney – are Mac & Yuney….without eye issues or injuries we’re in good shape.
McLouth is a very good everyday CF – not worried at all about him.
Prado – I THINK we’re in good shape…we shall see, a few years ago we handed 3B to DeRosa…didn’t work so well….he since has developed into what we thought he could be.

Chipper – Will we get the Batting Champion Chipper or the 2009 Chipper who is ready to retire? Or we could get 125 games of the Battting Champion Chipper and 37 games of Omar….Omar is fine but not Chipper.

Diaz – I really like Diaz but we’ve never been comfortable enough to give him the fulltime job. He is a hitting machine. But it now appears he will platoon (again) with Melky.

I guess we’re giving RF to Heyward. Don’t misunderstand – I made a trip to Lexington, Ky a couple years ago to see Heyward play with Rome. My first reaction upon seeing him up close was “YIKES”.
When you see his first swing you say, “MVP”. Yes, sure things miss…..however, I truly do not believe Heyward is a miss. I believe he is an MVP waiting to happen. Daryl Strawberry with brains.
He was very polite when my boys approached for an autograph. He will represent the Atlanta Braves and his family very well. I wish I knew what number he’s gonna be wearing because we’d be wearing our Heyward jerseys NOW.
HOWEVER, will he be able to make an impact in 2010 or will it be 2011?

With all that being said, I think we needed more of a “sure thing” at first base.
When Troy Glaus takes the field for the first time wearing his tomahawk – I’ll be cheering like crazy for his success. I just don’t think we can afford a swing and a miss at first base this year.

Just for the record, don’t forget about Cody Johnson – I do believe he’ll be our LF in a couple of years.

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Tim hudson is waaaaaaaaaaaay better than jv .Derek lowe will rebound .for the next three years at least our pitching is set hudson, dlowe,jj,hanson.Glaus will play 120 games hit 270 23 88

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Anyway you look at it, if we can add one more potent bat, say a Nady, then I believe that we have a decent lineup. We might not have multiple guys that can hit 30HR+, but we have some 20HR+ guys that hit for average and extra base hits.

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wonder who the opening day starter will be hudson or lowe

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wren’s offseason: B
1. signing wagner and saito before knowing if soriano and gonzalez will accept arbitration: C
2. trading vazquez for 2 prospects and melky cabrera: would’ve rather had 3 prospects, especially if melky is used more than a 4th outfielder: C-
3. Signing Troy Glaus on the cheap: A
4. Signing Mitch Jones: A
5, Re-tooling without selling the farm: A
6. Getting something semi-useful for soriano: B

On future moves:
If “big” moves are over, it sure would be nice for wren to go out and sign gary sheffield to come off the bench. in all seriousness, i think the braves will end up using their extra money to sign derosa or trade for uggla. with both corners being injury proned players, derosa provides much needed versatilty with a less dropoff of power that omar infante would provide. uggla only provides flexibility because prado provides flexibility. my guess at the 25 man roster on opening day:
lineup:
mclouth
prado
chipper
glaus
mccann
escobar
heyward
diaz

rotation (the obvious 5)
bullpen:
wagner
saito
moylan
medlen
o’flaherty
chavez
valdez

bench:
mitch jones
melky
infante
derosa
ross

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I asked for the rise and fall of wcw for christmas remember when wcw nitro was on tnt and braves games was on tbs.

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Ywah thats what i thought too. he could give it to lowe, he is a big game pitcher or maybe jj

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Ryan:

I think it’s too early to grade the Javy trade a C-. Let’s see how Javy does this season. I think Javy is going to have a tough time in the AL East, especially in Yankee Stadium.

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I liked Raw, but Nitro stole a lot of the talent. I liked Dean Malenko and Rey Mysterio. When I watched it about 11-13 years ago was when I first remember NWO coming into the picture.

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When Hogan went to wcw Thats when it got good,Real good

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Pro-Wren or Anti-Wren, we need to all agree on 1 thing: $92-$95 million should be enough to field a winner. Some of y’all make the Braves payroll sound like the Marlins’ restrictions.

If that’s not enough, raid the front offices of the Twins or the Marlins to find someone that would act as if they hit the lottery with that amount of money and let him build a playoff team.

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Starting Rotation for 2010? Way too early but since you asked. On paper it should be: JJ, Hanson, Lowe, Hudson, KK. You can flip-flop Lowe and Hudson but if you are going on talent we saw from last year then JJ or Hanson gets the opening nod. My guess is JJ.

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Dave,

Yes, I like the job Frank Wren is doing. He has to take risks, and he takes interesting ones.

He moves quickly, and doesn’t look back. Sometimes, that can bit you, but in general, I think it works out well.

IMO, he is exactly the type of GM we need to off-set the extreme loyalties of Bobby Cox.

Which brings me to . . .

let’s see how Frank does choosing the Braves next manager. Talk about polarizing a fan base!

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I like our rotation going into next year, A LOT. Is it better than what we had this year, only time will tell. But what I can tell you is this:

We will have Huddy back for a full year
We will have Hanson up for a whole year.
Lowe is sure to bounce back, he always does.
KK, second year in the Majors, will be good, not that he was all that bad last year.
Jurrjens, what else can you say about the kid, he is just that good.

Just the fact that we will have Tommy and Huddy for a whole year is enough to cover the wins that Javy would have gotten, and if we get another bat, I am sure we have enough offense for our starters to each have about 15 or more wins.

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Oh yeah, my top album for 2009, for the 40th straight year it is Led Zeppelin I. Thanks for asking. Rock on……….

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DOB, did Billy Joe pull some 12 year old kid on stage again, and turn the mic over to a random bozo in the audience during such calssics as Ride Me Down Easy and Live Forever? Last time I saw him at Eddie’s, that was the case… and it was a little silly.

As for Frank Wren: overall a great job. I have a feeling he’s not finished yet, and signing the former Roid-raging 3B could end up being pretty good, since he can certainly spell Chipper from time to time as well. Just don’t make him mad — he’ll slap your head off.

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Braveheart, haven’t seen you post in a while. Hope all is well. What did you think of the trade, and/or the offseason as a whole for the Braves?

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My top 10 of 2009

1. The Ruminant Band: Fruit Bats
2. Monsters Of Folk: Monsters Of Folk
3. It’s Frightening: White Rabbits
4. I and Love and You: Avett Brothers
5. The Rose Hotel: Robert Earl Keen
6. Logos: Atlas Sound
7. Veckatimest: Grizzly Bear
8. Up From Below: Edward Sharpe and Magnetic Zeros
9. What Will Be: Devendra Banhart
10. Written in Chalk: Buddy and Julie Miller

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O.J…..I feel they would also but not certain at about 7 mil per year. Just posed the thought that that could be a sticking point with Derosa. Agree with you on his attributes to the team.

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jon712, I agree. Blogs really were terrible back in the 60’s.

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