8:03 pm December 18, 2009, by David O'Brien
Steve from OH
December 20th, 200910:06 pm
Eh, having a pretty fun time reading this blog-wide meltdown, Efrim. Whaddya think of Detroit’s injury troubles? Pretty rough, eh?
December 20th, 200910:08 pm
We are awaiting your arrival
Prez of Matt Diaz Fan Club
Jurrjens4NLCY I don’t like you. That much I know.
December 20th, 200910:09 pm
Man, it’s kind of rough in here tonight. Can we talk about the Braves? Any guesses as to the market on Lowe? Do you folks think we’ll have to eat much of his salary to make the trade?
December 20th, 200910:10 pm
Because I know all you MORON’S are awaiting big news, I’ll let you in on a secret. I just received word from Frank Wren (Loyal member of the PLFC) that, well, I’ll let him tell you:
Okay, I’ll let yall in on a secret. We ARE in fact pursuing a blockbuster signing. What we want to do first is move Derek Lowe. Probably gonna have to eat about 5 million per year on that. Damn! Wish I had a Mulligan on that one!
But once we move Lowe, we will pursue either Bay or Holliday.
We’re prepared to go 4 years/60 mil on Bay. Holliday may be out of our price range, but we’ll give it a shot.
Then we plan on signing Nady to play 1b, if he’ll sign for 1 year/ 5 mil.
Money gets tight there, so we’ll be depending on some minor league players for bench support. More news to follow.
Frank P. Wren
billy boy (TBFKB)…………most people do not agree with my Derek Lowe rants. Most on here feel that the Braves can either trade Lowe without eating any of his contract….OR……..trade him for prospects and eat $3 mil or less of his contract.
December 20th, 200910:11 pm
Really rough. Zetterberg getting hurt was probably the last straw for you. I think they’ll be fine, although Chicago and San Jose look really strong. Heatley just might of been the missing piece for the Sharks.
Do you folks think we’ll have to eat much of his salary to make the trade?
I think $5M outta do it.
Read the last 100 pages of the blog and you will get 99 pages of Paul “King of Morons” Lentz explaining the market for Lowe.
I still think a trade for Swisher and a signing of Russell Branyan would give us a contending lineup.
Lineup in positional order stats based on 162 game average:
C – Brian McCann – .293/.356/.497/.853 24 HR 41 2B 103 RBI
*1B – Russell Branyan/Matt Diaz – .265/.364/.509/.872 37 HR 31 2B 93 RBI
2B – Martin Prado – .307/.360/.451/.811 9 HR 38 2B 58 RBI
SS – Yunel Escobar – .301 /.375 /.426 /.801 13 HR 33 2B 72 RBI
3B – Chipper Jones – .307/.406/.541/.947 32 HR 35 2B 108 RBI
LF – Nick Swisher – .245/.357/.460 /.817 28 HR 32 2B 86 RBI
CF – Nate McLouth – .260/.342/.454/.796 20 HR 33 2B 66 RBI
**RF – Jason Heyward – .303/.371/.465/.835 17 HR 27 2B 78 RBI
Thats a pretty powerful lineup
* based on Matt Diaz vs LH and Russell Branyan vs RH combined 162 average.
**based on Bill James projections (fangraphs)
And I know Chipper wont hit 32 again in all likelihood but upgrades in Prado and Escobar should make up those 7 as I expect about 25 from Chipper.
tell me that you dont remember taking a measuring tape out at the beginning of the video and measuring each of Long Dong’s Crew
“I did your wife/gf” jokes don’t work in high school. Why would they work when we’re adults?
The Braves are still looking for a right-handed bat for the 2010 lineup. There’s still plenty of time to find one, and it might even take into the new year before the Braves get a new offensive player.
That new bat will probably play first base or left field, and there are several options still on the market.
Atlanta would probably be best served to see what it can get for pitcher Derek Lowe, who is on the trade market due to a crowded rotation. The amount of money the Braves save could determine what kind of player they are able to bring in for the lineup.
If the Braves trade Lowe for prospects, they would get a $15 million net gain for their payroll. And that could make things very intersting.
Right now, our calculations have the Braves at about $87 million for 2010. This includes projections for arbitration cases and renewals of contracts for players not yet eligible for arbitration.
If the Braves are operating under a potential $95 million dollar budget, there is still some room left to spend. But if Lowe’s $15 million is taken off the books, there would be significant flexibility in the payroll.
If our numbers are correct, or close to being correct, the Braves would be around $23 million under their budget if Lowe were traded for prospects and that net gain on his contract would be the full $15 million.
If the Braves are able to pull that off, would they then consider a different type of free agent?
Let’s say the Braves were $23 million under budget. Would they then say, “Well, heck, why don’t we see if Jason Bay would be interested in coming here?”
And here’s why: Bay has not signed yet, and the one team that reportedly has a current offer on the table is the Mets. From all indications, Bay does not want to play for the Mets. If that’s his best offer, Bay may instead wait to see if something else opens up after the new year before signing with a team he really doesn’t have an interest in signing with.
If the Braves more or less replaced Lowe’s salary with Bay, they’d still have the funds to bring in a first baseman (Xavier Nady for $6 million?), and then sign another utility guy (or even two if they were priced no more than $1 mil each). That would put them right at the $95 million mark.
The Braves almost got Bay two summers ago in a trade, but the Pirates’ ownership turned down the deal. Several weeks later Bay was traded to the Red Sox, and then the next spring many of those same players involved in the Bay discussions were traded to Pittsburgh for Nate McLouth.
So they liked Bay before, and if the market presents itself where he would be more attractive, due to Lowe’s money being off the books, then you wonder if they would revisit that possibility.
What would a lineup with Bay and Nady, for example, look like?
Not bad. Not bad at all.
What are Bay’s options right now, other than the Mets? The Red Sox have moved on, signing Mike Cameron. The Yankees (Cabrera, Granderson, Swisher) don’t have room for him. The Angels (Rivera, Hunter, Abreu, Matthews) seem to be crowded in the outfield.
Seattle was mentioned with Bay, but they acquired Milton Bradley and have Franklin Gutierrez in center and Ichiro in right. Bay has pretty much let it be known he does not want to play for San Francisco.
So if he does not sign with the Mets, where is Bay going to go? Could he be waiting to see if the Braves are going to be interested after they trade Lowe?
Bay is 31 years old. He’s averaged 30 home runs per season in his first six full seasons in the big leagues. He would fit what the Braves are looking for, if the price were right.
If you’re wondering about Matt Holliday, it’s just easier to put the Braves with Bay, a player they’ve had interest in before. Plus, if the rumors are true about what Scott Boras is wanting from St. Louis for Holliday (8 years, $128 million), the Braves would not be interested in that type of deal.
The Braves may get something back for Lowe that would eat up part of the payroll and not give them that $15 million net gain in the budget. Let’s say the Braves add a player that might give the team only a $10 million net gain in the payroll, or simply prefer not to invest that large of a contract in Bay, regardless of how much money they have available.
Would they instead be interested in Johnny Damon? The last few days that has been mentioned by David O’Brien of the AJC, and then Saturday by Phil Rogers of the Chicago Tribune, and then Sunday by Ken Davidoff of Newsday.
Damon reportedly went back to the Yankees, before they signed Nick Johnson late in the week, and asked for $22 million for two years. That’s off what Boras had put out there earlier in the winter that Damon would be looking for on the market.
The Yankees said no, and now you wonder who will be after Damon. He’s a left fielder, so you can look at the same teams mentioned above that may or may not be in on Bay. If Bay were to say no to the Mets, they could turn to Damon, but there’s no idea if he’d be interested in playing for the other New York team.
Two years ago when the Yankees talked about moving Damon and the final two years of his contract, the Braves were rumored to have some interest if the Yankees would eat part of Damon’s money in his deal. So you have that, plus the knowledge that Damon lives in Orlando, near the Braves spring training home. And you wonder if Damon would have an interest in playing for manager Bobby Cox.
Damon made $13 million dollars in each of the last four years. So if he’s already been turned down by the Yankees for $11 million per year for two seasons, his price tag is going to go down lower.
Damon has already made, according to baseball-reference.com, $97 million in his career. He just turned 36 years old, so he may accept less for a couple of seasons to play in Atlanta, especially if he believes the Braves have a chance to take him back to the World Series.
Now, Damon would not be the right-handed hitter the Braves are looking for this winter. But he would present an interesting option of moving McLouth down in the batting order. Damon mainly hit second last season, but in 2008 he hit leadoff for the Yankees and did very well in that role.
How solid would this lineup be?
That’s not a bad lineup, either.
Damon’s speed has decreased a bit, as he stole only 12 bases last year – much lower than his average. But he’s still a very productive hitter. Damon hit .282 last season with a .365 OBP, 24 home runs, and 82 RBI.
Sure, Damon hit more home runs at Yankee Stadium (17) than on the road (7). But Damon is still a guy that can be dangerous at the plate.
Defensively, Damon is not what he used to be, but if the Braves had Garret Anderson in left field last season, Damon would be a huge upgrade.
How would having Damon, who won a World Series in Boston and last year with the Yankees, in the clubhouse help Atlanta? Well, they are trying to get to a World Series, so having someone with that experience would not be a negative.
Would Damon agree to a two-year deal with the Braves for $9 million each season? Depending on the Lowe trade, that would still put the Braves under budget.
Say the Braves got that $15 net gain on a Lowe trade, and then gave Damon $9 million for next season. They would actually still have the funds to give Nady $6 million for next season, and even still be able to afford giving Mark DeRosa $5 million for next season. If they did that, the Braves would be around $93 million – $2 million under a $95 million payroll.
So after seeing these scenarios, it makes you wonder if the Braves are just going to wait to see what kind of net gain they get from a Derek Lowe trade before moving forward with an outfielder. That makes sense. Get Lowe traded, and then know what your budget is to go after a Bay or a Damon or anyone else.
The Lowe deal is very important. Maybe Frank Wren has something up his sleeve where he’ll get an outfielder in return for Lowe, making a run at Bay or Damon unnecessary. But if he gets a lot of money off the books by trading Lowe, it opens up more possibilities in his search for a productive bat for the lineup.
Last edited Today 2:48 PM by BillShanks
December 20th, 200910:13 pm
I’m actually a little surprised on the FA front that Holliday, Bay, and LaRoche aren’t fielding offers from multiple teams. If St. Louis offered that mega-deal to Holliday, I cannot believe he hasn’t accepted.
I’d be interested to hear from DOB if LaRoche has received any offers.
December 20th, 200910:14 pm
Yeah, if they can keep in the race until Zetterberg and Franzen (and Kronwall. And Filppula, Williams, Cleary, Helm, and Ericsson) get healthy, they should be fine. Oh, and they really need to hope Jimmy Howard makes the strides he needs to, because Osgood just ain’t gonna cut it.
I assure you it’s not. I have verified the IP Address.
December 20th, 200910:15 pm
keep waiting – Paul Lentz
guess you still haven’t come up with an answer yet. I wait think it through
Yeah, and I had read somewhere that the Canadian Olympic team was considering taking one of San Jose’s entire lines (the Pavelski-Heatley line I think) for their roster. That’ll make your team pretty tough, having a line like that…
President of Paul Lentz Fan Club
December 20th, 200910:19 pm
Okay folks, I’m gonna retire for a while. Come join us for fellowship and discussion at the PLFC: http://paullentzfc.wordpress.com/
December 20th, 200910:20 pm
Just to baseball orientated for a moment, I have been looking on the internet and can find no reference to Ried Gorecki signing for the Yankees. Anybody got a link that does not include RIck Astley to confirm this?
December 20th, 200910:21 pm
out of curiosity… any other screenwriters on the ol’ blog?
December 20th, 200910:22 pm
I don’t get what happens to Paul…this is the 3rd or 4th time he’s had a meltdown. Is he bipolar? Is he drunk? What happens to push him off the edge??
December 20th, 200910:23 pm
I think that we’ll see some major movement on the free agent market. With Christmas coming up on Friday, I cant imagine that the 2 biggest hitters on the market (Holliday and Bay) will be free agents past New Year’s (assuming that most of the front offices will be taking the week between Christmas and New Year’s off).
If Holliday and Bay are signed before the Braves are able to dump (eh, trade) Derek Lowe, then it could be awhile before the Braves make a move. I think that the teams out there looking for pitching are going to go bargain hunting like the teams did last year with hitters like Abreau and Dunn. It’s a buyer’s market right now.
December 20th, 200910:24 pm
Soph, McFann, and Cabravesfan,
I got my dog a Braves hat for christmas, she looks so cute in it. I’ll be sure to take picture if you want.
Prez of Matt Diaz Fan Club,
It was all sarcasm.
December 20th, 200910:25 pm
Steve McP the only site that says it is wikipedia (not very credible) every other site list him as a free agent. So I am to believe he hasn’t sign anywhere yet
December 20th, 200910:26 pm
um, yes! I’d love to see a pic
December 20th, 200910:30 pm
Move along people Nothing to see here. That is unless you’re a glutton for punishment, and wish to read the train-wreck that is Paul Lentz
Not me. Two posts “shaded in grey” after page 14 tells me what I need to know today…. that there isn’t any Braves news to reports.
Which means that there is likely too much Lentz for anybody to have to sift through.
Have fun people.
December 20th, 200910:32 pm
Alright DOB, the tribe has spoken. Ban this dumbass now. The people that keep your blog going as the best sports blog around deserve much better.
This guy doesn’t deserve the cyber-space he takes up.
December 20th, 200910:33 pm
What the hell is a cassette?
December 20th, 200910:34 pm
The hate that your fellow MORONS have been spewing on me brings out the meltdown in me
Paul, you don’t think you bring a lot of the hate on yourself? You flaunt an “everybody’s stupid but me” attitude. You call people who don’t agree with you or dare question you a MORON. You present opinions as facts. You speak like Frank Wren is your old drinking buddy.
If you’d humble yourself a little bit, act a bit more diplomatic, and try to chill on these meltdowns, the blog would be a much more pleasant place for all of us (you included). Unless, of course, you enjoy this attention even if it’s negative.
I take back what I side, everyone has a bad side, unfortunately you’ve been the victim of attacks and you have to respond back , and because of that were all seeing your bad side. I know your not like that. I know your not evil. I’ll just wait for tomorrow when everyone will have a clean slate, and we can get back to baseball.
December 20th, 200910:36 pm
Oh my gosh, CAB, a great band name: “The Cassette Players.” What do you think?
N8, I got to see proto-Oingo Boingo on the Gong Show as a result of today’s blog. Not sure if that is worth sifting throw the crap-heap that is pages 11 through 19. But hey, it’s something.
December 20th, 200910:37 pm
Congrats Lents, you’re the first blogger (including stinky) that’s gotten on my nerves enough to ‘report”. Don’t worry, I only did it to 3 or 4 of them.
If I was you, I’d look for a new IP address. Actually, if I was you I’d likely have to…. Oh never mind. No matter how easy it would be, no sense sinking to your level.
You are too cool for me to comprehend. Congrats.
December 20th, 200910:38 pm
Classy move, Jurrjens4NLCY. He’s been ubernasty, that’s for sure, but it sure brought out the ugly in a bunch of us, didn’t it?
(Still gotta be pulling for a ban, though, lol.)
December 20th, 200910:40 pm
“Dont you know it by now….I possess the “hidden immunity idol”. You cant vote me out MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” Lentz
I think my favorite part of this post, is that you have the balls to ask a QUESTION without adding a question mark, yet have the audacity (you might wanna check the dictionary for that one if you don’t get it), to call somebody a moron while doing so. Priceless.
“N8millimeter just joined the ranks of the other LOSER MORONS who is a hater because they are wrong all the time.”
No. I think your and idiot. Which makes me right, even if it’s just this once. And your point was?
December 20th, 200910:41 pm
I’m sorry. I’m sorry I continue to feed you. I sorry for the website, even though it was hilarious, not just funny, hilarious. I know I didn’t help in the efforts of helping you avoid name calling. I know Steve and Wayne and all those others pick fights with you. And I know you will not be the bigger man. You you took it too far with the ****bang comment, and for that you will probably be banned. Before you make a choice, think about the ramifications of it.
Have a good life Paul Lentz.
December 20th, 200910:42 pm
Congrats Lents, you’re the first blogger (including stinky) that’s gotten on my nerves enough to ‘report
I’ve reported before, but the AJC makes it too hard. You have to have a clipboard to record all the info
December 20th, 200910:43 pm
It doesn’t bother me that much that you call everyone “moron.” I’m okay with you using selective memory to claim that you’re always right. I can even accept it when you constantly mis-quote and mis-represent other bloggers’ comments…
But for god’s sake it’s called a post, not a posting!
Post is a noun, as in: “The person who made that post is a moron.”
Posting is a verb, as in: “That moron keeps posting about Matt Holiday even though there’s no chance in hell he’s coming to the Braves.”
Whew…. I feel better now.
December 20th, 200910:44 pm
I mean, it’s a freaking Braves blog. How did it come to this? And how are you so immature that you can’t handle a baseball blog?
Can we NOW as of 9:44 stop?
Can we all just put our guns down?
Lets ALL, ALL, move on…
Sorry about all that bold nonsense…
December 20th, 200910:45 pm
Oops, haha, I live in the central time zone, I meant 10:45
Jeffrey D, I just opened two windows and copied and pasted the information. Kind of a pain in the ass. But when he’s gone (and he will be – even if temporarily), it will be worth it.
Then again, who the hell we going to have to make us all feel smarter?
December 20th, 200910:46 pm
Whew…. I feel better now.
And don’t even get me started on his ridiculous misuse of quotation marks.
It’s 10:45… You’re central time zone won’t fly here Jurrjens…
I just opened two windows and copied and pasted the information
ahh…that’s what I should’ve done if I wasn’t a MORON
Chris from the Rock
December 20th, 200910:47 pm
Abwright, your 9:04 IS going to give me nightmares! But one problem…Reid Goreki refused assignment and is now a free agent. We’ll have to bring Raul Mondesi out of retirement and stick him in the OF.
I think Lentz has given us enough to last us for years to come
December 20th, 200910:48 pm
Abwright, one other thing, who’s your SP? James Parr?
December 20th, 200910:51 pm
Braves Fan RSD. Steve McP: Gorecki announced the signing on his official Facebook account, which is private. That’s why there’s no site story.
Braves_Fan_RFDildo………I’m not going anywhere MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Glad you finally accept this about your life Paul admitting it is half the battle
December 20th, 200910:53 pm
Not helping what? Like I said, he’s brought all of this on himself. If he could control these meltdowns and be a little more open and a little less cocky, then we wouldn’t have a problem. But as of right now he’s proven he can’t handle the responsibility of posting on here.
I mean, what is this…elementary school? I can’t believe that an adult is saying these things. It’s completely immature and uncalled for.
Paul, I’m not the one banning you. If you weren’t such a hot-headed morong (seems to be the word of choice), you’d realize it’s not in my control. But I have no problem reporting your obnoxiousness.
There are many things that it is known by all not to bring up here.
Politics, Religion and Whitesnake. They are just a given.
But if you have to be told not to bring up penis size and rectums? I can only assume that your mother had to also tell you many times “why you can’t play with the toaster in the bathtub”, well into your teens.
So yes. I cannot ban you. But if you really think those comments aren’t going to get your current IP address banned? You sir, are the moron.
Thanks for playing.
Not helping what? Like I said, he’s brought all of this on himself. If he could control these meltdowns and be a little more open and a little less arrogant, then we wouldn’t have a problem. But as of right now he’s proven he can’t handle the responsibility of posting on here.
December 20th, 200910:55 pm
FYI – you can’t say a word that rhymes with “rocky” and is a synonym of arrogant on here. It will get eaten.
December 20th, 200910:56 pm
I think you missed the big comment from Paul Lentz:
That’s why he should be banned.
December 20th, 200910:59 pm
I cant believe that a bunch of adults who call themselves Braves fans advocate for things that will only ensure that the Braves dont compete for a championship.
Is this what started it all??
Proof Reid Gorecki signed with NYY http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?v=wall&id=1423064787#/profile.php?v=wall&id=1423064787
December 20th, 200911:00 pm
I cant believe that a bunch of adults who call themselves Braves fans advocate for things that will only ensure that the Braves dont compete for a championship
So you retaliate by making cruel, disgusting, and uncalled for sex jokes??
None of us want to see the Braves lose (except maybe Anders). But right now there’s circumstances that are making fielding a competitive team difficult.
December 20th, 200911:01 pm
Wren drastically improved the team last offseason, and he’s still got plenty of time this offseason, all while dealing with a limited budget.
IP Address Change Failure
Two problems with that, Lentz.
1. You’ll never be able to keep yourself concealed.
2. DOB isn’t going to let you hijack this joint permanently, IP changes or otherwise. “Oh, there’s Paul. *click*. Oh, there’s Paul again. *click* See?”
Jurrjens4NLCY (as Bill Cosby)
December 20th, 200911:06 pm
Let’s stop the fussing and the fuedin and get some jelly puddin pops!
December 20th, 200911:07 pm
I have tried to stay out of this converstaion, but if you have multiple IP addresses to try and say the stuff you say on a site you get banned from, then you are one disturbed person. My guess is that you live a miserable life, and try (and fail) to make others miserable because of it. People like you are what is wrong with the world
jeffi d………….I was personally attacked, therefore I attacked back.
December 20th, 200911:09 pm
I SAID LETS STOP THE FUSSING AND THE FEUDING!!
I was personally attacked, therefore I attacked back.
We get it. We’ll stop, right guys?
December 20th, 200911:10 pm
Oops, that wasn’t supposed to be as Bill Cosby
If a lion attacked you….would you attack back? You know…twice as hard?
Don’t answer… rhetorical.
December 20th, 200911:15 pm
Blog’s going crazy
Kind of quiet on here.
Wait, I know why. The haters on here are actually doing searches to find the video of Steve from Ohio’s wife.
Ok, after that shot, I’m willing to call it a truce and refrain from the trash talk. But only if the courtesy is returned.
Posts are being deleted
December 20th, 200911:16 pm
Do women’s blog’s end up like this frequently? I mean, are they over at the Jane Austen blog talkin’ about “well anybody who thinks Emma is better than Persuasion must have adultery with her father’s flowery imagination… uh… library … sundress… handsomely on top of the … veranda” ?
December 20th, 200911:17 pm
Post’s are being deleted?
thank you to whomever (I assume DOB) is deleting posts. No need to have to see most of that crap anymore
December 20th, 200911:18 pm
Jurrjens4NLCY……….looks like it.
I was personally attacked, therefore I attacked back
So can’t you just ignore it and be the bigger man? I hope you’ll realize the stuff you’re saying makes you look less and less credible.
Post’s aren’t being deleted, and I doubt that’s DOB’s job.
“I was personally attacked, therefore I attacked back.”
Maybe true. I don’t really care. But just like the NFL, the guy who retaliates ALWAYS gets the yellow flag. Your retaliation will get that IP address banned. Argue all you want. You know it’s true an now like rabid animal trapped in a corner, you’re going down in a rage.
Might as well make it count, right?
December 20th, 200911:19 pm
jeffrey!… Drop it.
Uh oh. I’m probably gonna get the hook, too. Dangit.
December 20th, 200911:20 pm
This has happened before, and it’s gonna happen again if we don’t learn from what happened. We can’t just pretend it didn’t happen.
December 20th, 200911:21 pm
We can stop instantiating and start learning to be civil and coexist
When you’ve been “personally attacked” and you feel like saying nasty things about the attacker’s wife will save your reputation and make things right, then there’s a problem.
December 20th, 200911:23 pm
Goodnight Paul, enjoy your night.
December 20th, 200911:25 pm
Ok, after that shot, I’m willing to call it a truce and refrain from the trash talk. But only if the courtesy is returned.
December 20th, 200911:26 pm
What did they call Tommy John surgery before Tommy John was around? Joe R
career ending injury surgery
December 20th, 200911:27 pm
Nolie, that is correct: Tommy John was the first to have the surgery, hence the name. It was experimental, and it worked. Before that, it was pretty much a career-ending injury. Who knows how many great ones who had to retire because of elbow problems might have continued for years and years if they’d had TJ surgery back in the day.
December 20th, 200911:29 pm
blog tonight looks like a bunch of high school girls going at each other. Really mature guys
If Paul Lentz gets banned, can the “Suggestion for Paul Lentz” poster be banned too?
December 20th, 200911:30 pm
suggestion – kidding or not, that is a horrendous post
thanks for the delete DOB
December 20th, 200911:31 pm
It was deleted… GOOD.
December 20th, 200911:32 pm
Hey lower Cal. friends. I figured I’d stop in briefly to say hi.
VJ, I was wondering, it’s been close to 2 months that you’ve been living there, how are you getting along with the bitch?
cabravesfan, you do realize I was talking about your cigarette smoking, beer drinking, 3-legged female dog, Nala, right?
December 20th, 200911:34 pm
Wow, are we serious Tom O’Hawke? I cannot believe there’s so much immaturity and stupidity on here. It makes me miss retarded trade proposals. I’m gonna find something productive to do before bed. Goodnight all.
December 20th, 200911:35 pm
As the dust settles, we resume normal Braves related talk.
December 20th, 200911:37 pm
I’m gonna go out on a limb and predict that jeffrey d misunderstood my post.
December 20th, 200911:40 pm
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