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Rock On......
December 15th, 2009
10:25 am
TennesseePaul…..I have re-read your post numerous times. I get it. I think. Anyway this whole scenario of 1st base stems from the assumed departure of LaRoche who I stated months back I would like to see retained through 2011. LaRoche has other ideas but it is not clear if he will get 30/3 from any team. He may still be in play at say 9/2 for the Braves which I would be fine with.
Sure Adrian may be near impossible or at best very difficult to pull off but this could be the blockbuster that trumps the Doc deal for a team that is under a 100 mil budget.
Again, I just feel Wren is up to something bigger than we might think. That’s all, just my hunch. The reason is I just don’t see the Braves going weaker at 1st offensively or defensively by retrofitting a player into the position. The Phillies are getting stronger and have sent a big message. We got close last year to a point and it will be interesting to see if Wren will get the big bat and keep his pitching the best in the NL. It may not be Gonzalez at 1st but I don’t see it being a serviceable player either.
Efrim
December 15th, 2009
10:26 am
I am still trying to figure out how Cleveland’s GM did not get more for Lee when he traded him to Philly.
Pretty sure that everyone is still quite baffled by that deal. Unless of course you take into consideration that the Indians got 4 players with 6 years of service time left for one player with 18 months left before he is a free agent. But I don’t agree with looking at things like that. At least not without looking at the potential of those four prospects. Not all prospects are the same.
K_Chub
December 15th, 2009
10:27 am
Nova Scotia Steve, Welcome to the world of a middle class baseball team. The only question I have for you sir is – where have you been? It’s not like this is news we can’t compete with the big boys in terms of pulling superstar free agents and it’s been that way for a while so why are you getting all bent out of shape?
DAP
December 15th, 2009
10:27 am
the phillies are only making this deal because they can lock up halliday until 2013 at least. starting in 2011, he will account for over 15% of their entire payroll. im not really sure if they made themselves that much better for 2010, but they certainly arent worse, and they have the best pitcher in baseball locked up for years.
im not sure about this deal, but the pitching in the NL east sure is stiff, isnt it? weve got halliday, santanta, hudson, johnson, and young studs like hamels, jurjens, hanson….the east is a very tough division right now.
Dawg
December 15th, 2009
10:29 am
rtrafford: I am paying attention. Please explain what I am missing. What rumors are your referring to? Have I missed a rumor about a big bat coming? Have I missed the fact that we only want an inexpensive first baseman for 1 year?
What have I missed?
Bravo!
December 15th, 2009
10:29 am
Lets not forget that the Muts and Phillies have a much more generous payroll than the Braves. And the highest payroll, or simply purchasing the “hot free agents” doesn’t guarantee anything; otherwise the Yankees would win every year. Philly added a fantastic pitcher, but also is apparently trading a great one away. I’m going to wait and see what Wren can do. After a supposedly disastrous off season last year, stepping away from all those events we saw that we were actually better off not doing almost every deal we were rumored to be involved in. And as DOB has pointed out, we are still WEEKS away from Spring Training! Relax everyone.
Kevin in Chatty
December 15th, 2009
10:29 am
How about this series of moves.
Trade Lowe to the Angels for Juan Rivera.
Sign Troy Glaus and let him play first.
Sign another affordable left handed bat that can play first.
Diaz becomes a utility player who could play LF, RF or 1B in a pinch.
Chris from the Rock
December 15th, 2009
10:33 am
Tomahawk, don’t you mean 4th place finish?
dogsbrekky
December 15th, 2009
10:35 am
How about this one…. JJ and JoJo for Kendry Morales ………
RC
December 15th, 2009
10:37 am
Trade Lowe to the Angels for Juan Rivera.
Sign Troy Glaus and let him play first.
Sign another affordable left handed bat that can play first.
Why Troy Glaus? Xaiver Nady seems like a much better option to me, as well as many others that are available and likely cheap enough.
Tomahawk1310
December 15th, 2009
10:38 am
Yeah it’s all the same to me 3rd, 4th, what difference does it make when it’s not 1st. I’m tired of the Phillies and their cocky azzes winning. We have the talent coming up with Heyward and maybe Schafer but we are short a legitimate power bat that has proven year after year to be consistent. Chipper is not the Chipper of old and I’m tired of signing guys coming off injuries. Trade Lowe and go get Holliday or Bay if still available.
Rock On......
December 15th, 2009
10:39 am
dogsbrekky….too many J’s. Especially the first two.
dogsbrekky
December 15th, 2009
10:40 am
N8 – re Chipper, his defense (range) was pretty good before he ripped his knee in that rookie year base running blow out
bravofan
December 15th, 2009
10:42 am
dogsbresky: I like the Kendry Morales point but I would not be willing to part with JJ.
dogsbrekky
December 15th, 2009
10:46 am
rock on – It is Christmas time and I can ask Santa for whatever I want…. lol
The only reason I suggest JJ is that he is so valuable and sometimes trading you have to give up something valuable to get a bigger profit return….
If we deal JJ we still have the little dog as back up in case someone gets injured… and I say let the little dog eat !
bravofan
December 15th, 2009
10:46 am
has anybody heard anything about fanfest I went 3 years ago when it was at the Ted. Then I went two years ago when it was held at the Georgia World Congress Center and to get autographs it was “Treasure Hunt” style. This was so dumb you did not know who you were standing in line for so we waited in line for three hours saw Chipper thought we were gonna get his John Hancock but then the bring out Brian Snitker everybody started booing!!
dogsbrekky
December 15th, 2009
10:47 am
BTW does anyone know if there are bears on Long Island NY ?
bravofan
December 15th, 2009
10:57 am
I wish the Bosox would hurry up and sign Lackey so the Braves could deal Lowe
David O'Brien
December 15th, 2009
10:58 am
dogsbrekky: Braves are too smart to trade Jurrjens at this point in his career.
bravofan
December 15th, 2009
10:59 am
anybody heard anything about fanfest this year I went a couple of years ago when it was held at the Ted and it was freezing. then last year they held it at the georgia world congress center and to obtain autographs it was “treasure hunt” style. It was so stupid you had no idea whos autograph you were going to get. So we stood in line for close to 3 hours we finally are able to see the autograph table and Chipper is there so I’m thinking hey I will take this then he gets up to trade out with someone and guess who comes out Brian Snitker everybody started boooing!!!!!!
David O'Brien
December 15th, 2009
11:00 am
Two-year deal kept Braves off Cameron — it probably won’t take two years to sign Nady, coming back from injury. He’s unlikely to get more than a one-year guarantee from any team. That’s a good thing for Braves.
Random
December 15th, 2009
11:00 am
CB (December 15th, 2009 9:55 am): “We had some fun with our “friend”,didn’t we?”
No fun — I’m dead serious these days when it comes to Paul Lentz.
He made an open bet to all comers — “I have a ‘proposed bet’ that I want to put out there”, “whoever accepts the bet”, “Any takers?”
TakerS — plural.
If he does not accept all comers who want to take his bet, that just further solidifies his nature and stature as a welcher, liar and cheat.
RHR
December 15th, 2009
11:01 am
“Halladay wasn’t going to the Mets,” the GM said. “His people were letting everyone know he was only going to a winner – the Phillies, Red Sox, Yankees, or maybe the Angels, although he wanted to be in the East because he lives in Florida.
“The problem for the Mets is that after everything that happened to them last year – the injuries, the record, the front office controversies – they’re just not very appealing to star players who have choices.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2009/12/15/2009-12-15_harper_mets.html
Ouch.
DAP
December 15th, 2009
11:01 am
DOB, you think the braves are looking at nady for 1B or OF? or maybe a bit of both?
NCmike
December 15th, 2009
11:03 am
dogsbrekky – don’t know about Long Island, but there have been plenty of bears in Manhattan over the past couple of years. Most of them located at 11 Wall Street, New York, NY
dogsbrekky
December 15th, 2009
11:03 am
Dobi – the only 2 reasons I would ever trade JJ are that is uber valuable … hence we could get a HUGE return and 2…. he is a Boras client yes (thinking 4 years forward)
RC
December 15th, 2009
11:04 am
White Sox trade for Juan Pierre. Any time you can trade two minor leaguers for a guy making $18 million over the next two years and has the same skill set as a guy you just released, that’s a deal you gotta make.
sidslidkid
December 15th, 2009
11:05 am
Tomahawk1310, are you really surprise that the Phils and Mets have more money to spend than us??? Really??? Have you been to a game at the Ted? We don’t have as many fans coming out to the games. We aren’t coming off back to back World Series appearances. We aren’t in the biggest and most absurd market in the country (NYC). Of course I’d love to sign the biggest bat and the best arm every offseason, but that ain’t happening. It’s Atlanta, we have to find some other ways to get talent on the club other than buying it out of free agency.
Canadian Braves Fan
December 15th, 2009
11:06 am
DOB would the Braves take a flyer on Vlad as a 4th or 5th outfielder if the price was right.
Lunatic Fringe
December 15th, 2009
11:06 am
RHR,
I see the Mets are calling it Black Monday. From a Braves point of view, it was not so black–might actually get the ball rolling for them
Thanks for the link
DAP
December 15th, 2009
11:07 am
i can help but think about two big power guys recently non-tendered. jonny gomes and jack cust. both corner outfielders, cust, the lefty, hit .247/.369/.461, and 22 homersin 373 ABs vs righties, and gomes hit .307/.369/.545 in 101 ABs vs. lefties. (gomes also hit .244/.320/.539 vs righties, which isnt to bad either)
maybe get a good 1B and get a platoon going in LF? its hard not to look at these guys for that kind of situation. gomes especially.
bravofan
December 15th, 2009
11:07 am
too bad we dont have elvis andrus and salty I bet he could play first
Prime Time
December 15th, 2009
11:09 am
No bears on Long Island, some deer.
bravofan
December 15th, 2009
11:09 am
Dap I mentioned Cust and apparently it had already been metnioned DOB said he strikes out way too much I believe
dogsbrekky
December 15th, 2009
11:11 am
Prime Time – thanks, maybe a raccoon or the squirrels have worked out how to get into my bins then !
shmoe
December 15th, 2009
11:12 am
It sounds like the best thing to do would be trade Lowe for a good prospect and sign Nady. I don’t think Braves want to be in the position of eating huge amounts of Lowe’s contract, and in fact I don’t think they should take on that kind of liability for a player of Juan Rivera’s ilk. It would be more responsible to sign Nady to a fairly cheap contract, and let Lowe go for some decent to good prospect. Just my humble opinion…
bravofan
December 15th, 2009
11:13 am
heres DOB’s thoughts on Cust
bravofan: others had the idea yesterday/last night when we discussed Cust on the blog.
In a platoon, I think Cust could definitely help the Braves. But only in a platoon. He had 22 homers and an .830 OPS in 373 at-bats vs. righties last season, but hit only .221 with five extra-base hits (three homers) and a .300 slugging percentage in 140 at-bats vs. lefties.
He was used primarily as a DH in 2009 (337 of his 513 at-bats came as a DH). Oh and he has led the AL in strikeouts three consecutive years, for those who care about such things (there are still plenty of folks, like myself, who don’t subscribe to the an-out-is-an-out-is-an-out theory; some of us believe that making an out while putting the ball in play is better in some situations than whiffing).
DAP
December 15th, 2009
11:17 am
RC, dodgers are picking up half pierre’s salary. id make that deal, to if i need a speedy outfielder.
Tomahawk1310
December 15th, 2009
11:17 am
sidslidkid
I live in Chicago but come down every year to see a game at the Ted with my wife and kids. My wife and kids love it and we look forward to it every year. Yes I’m disappointed to see the stadium empty every year but believe me if i lived in Atlanta I would support them and be at alot of games. When was the last time we got a big bat through free agency? Is it so unrealistic for the Atlanta Braves to sign a big bat? We aren’t the Pirates for crying out loud.
Joebrave
December 15th, 2009
11:17 am
hmmmm! looiks like Franky, may be waiting too long!
Prime Time
December 15th, 2009
11:17 am
Probably a coon.
ESPN is saying that the Angels will look to the Braves for starting pitching as there are no better options in the FA market.
im4ball
December 15th, 2009
11:19 am
Why would the Braves be interested in someone coming off their second tommy john surgery who has never hit more than 20 HR’s and a life time average of .280 (and that bouyed by an atypical .330 year)? Nady is not the choice; even as a rental. They also want to give him 1st base which is not his natural position.
The Braves need to stop acting like they are desperate and get smart about who they sign. I would rather see them start a rookie at first than to sign Nady.
Rock On......
December 15th, 2009
11:20 am
You mean The Medic (comes in when someone gets hurt)…Kris Medlen? With what we have in our system pitching-wise he isn’t long for this team. In fact there is an outstanding chance he isn’t with the Braves come ST. Nah, I don’t trade any corner pieces of the pitching staff like JJ. I get your point dogsbrekky but I am not sold on how effective Hudson or KK will be in 2010 to let go of JJ. That would be a huge blow to the rotation.
Justin
December 15th, 2009
11:20 am
Joe Braves its been a day good god man unless a durable pitcher that won 15 games last year just appears out of this air the Braves are allright chill out.
P'cola Brave
December 15th, 2009
11:22 am
DOB
I know the Braves had been linked to Crawford early in the offseason. Was the asking price to high for him or were the Braves not that interested?
dogsbrekky
December 15th, 2009
11:24 am
rock on – just thinking laterally here… well trying…
Fish Bisch
December 15th, 2009
11:24 am
I heard that the Phillies are getting Halladay. Looks like they will repeat as champs in the NL east.
Nova Scotia Steve - Roy Halladay wins 2010 NL Cy Young Award -
December 15th, 2009
11:25 am
I don’t remember the Braves ever being linked to Carl Crawford…
choppertochipper
December 15th, 2009
11:25 am
Prime time where is that link
dogsbrekky
December 15th, 2009
11:25 am
God now they are trying to link Tiger Woods to HGH (via his doctor who got busted)
isn’t that kind of like trying to link me to IVF drugs cause my ex went on Clomid
Prime Time
December 15th, 2009
11:25 am
Crawford would be great but don’t see it happening
RC
December 15th, 2009
11:25 am
DAP,
The White Sox just cut Dewayne Wise, who would have cost them around $400k next year. I don’t see that advantage of trading talent for Pierre since he’s not much of an upgrade over Wise, in my opinion.
Joebrave
December 15th, 2009
11:26 am
Sorry I dont trust the front office,I foresee Nady only,and Wren will tell us He is a Professional Hitter, much like Loaf last year
Prime Time
December 15th, 2009
11:26 am
I just heard them talking about it on ESPN sportcenter after they were talking about Halladay and Lackey being picked up.
Justin
December 15th, 2009
11:27 am
The only place the braves were linked to Crawford were by some the morons on these blogs.
Rock On......
December 15th, 2009
11:27 am
Hey we can’t trade JJ anyway he came via one of the few trades where we actually won in the deal.
Justin
December 15th, 2009
11:28 am
If the braves are gonna pay 10 mill per a season and trade the prospets it would take to get him wouldnt they just pay bay or Holliday?? I think so.
KC
December 15th, 2009
11:33 am
im4ball: “Why would the Braves be interested in someone coming off their second tommy john surgery who has never hit more than 20 HR’s and a life time average of .280″…
Actually, Nady hit 25 HR’s in 2008. Also, he hit 20 HR’s in 2007… IN ONLY 431 AB’s. Projected to 550 AB’s, that would be 26 HR’s.
And in 2006, for that matter, he hit 17 HR’s in 468 AB’s, which scaled over 550 at-bats would come to 20 HR’s.
So, with the obvious exception of last season – most of which he missed, Nady has displayed AT LEAST 20 homerun power over each of his last 3 seasons. And 25 HR power in each of his last two seasons.
Since when is a .280 career average bad??
And if pitchers don’t have much trouble coming back from TJ these days, why on earth would you expect it to be problematic for a Left-Fielder/First-Baseman??
With respect, I don’t follow your thinking here at all.
Fischerking04
December 15th, 2009
11:33 am
Personally I think we take our time to make a deal. Let teams know that we are willing to stand pat if the right offer doesn’t come along.
I want to know who we will get too but the FO shouldn’t jump the gun to get a deal done fast just because the Phil’s are dealing. The market is looking better for Lowe now than it was this time yesterday and the more time passes the more teams might get antsy for him.
RC
December 15th, 2009
11:34 am
Hey we can’t trade JJ anyway he came via one of the few trades where we actually won in the deal.
How long have you been a Braves fan? Aside from the Texieria deal, can you name another Braves trade where we obviously lost in the deal? I mean, just last year we got Javier Vazquez for Tyler Flowers and Brent Lillibridge….that seemed to work out.
Random
December 15th, 2009
11:34 am
Joebrave (December 15th, 2009 11:17 am): “hmmmm! looks like Franky, may be waiting too long!”
How so?
Joebrave
December 15th, 2009
11:38 am
And what of all these 3 team trades that never happen?
Daslied
December 15th, 2009
11:38 am
Rock On, Frank Wren trades:
Vazquez for Flowers, Gilmore, Lillibridge – WIN
McLouth for Morton, Locke, Hernandez – early, but I’m going to say WIN
LaRoche for Kotchman – WIN
Norton for that guy – WIN, based on 2008 and the fact that the other guy isn’t in MLB anymore
Kotsay for Devine – Kotsay was fine, Devine was good until injured – PUSH, depending on Devine’s return to health
Sumoza for Kotsay – too early
Kotchman/Marek for Teixeira – WIN, considering LAA didn’t win, Tex left, and Kotchman turned into LaRoche
Chavez for Soriano – WIN, considering ATL didn’t want Soriano, got his full salary paid and got a useful bullpen arm
What are you considering losses?
TennesseePaul
December 15th, 2009
11:38 am
lol. Ha! You mean the qualifiers made it confusing? In a nut-shell, trade Lowe for prospects, included those prospects with additional players from Braves system to obtain Adrian.
Essentially it is a three team deal. Whether all three are included at the time of the trade, or as a domino/trade and flip process, is all a matter of semantics…
Thus I was saying that the Braves wouldn’t have to look at just their own system to come up with a favorable package. While your list of prospects was nice, it might not “hurt” the Braves as much if Lowe is traded for prospects and said prospects are used to build a package for Adrian.
Now add in the qualifiers (thus proving that I have paid attention this off-season and realize that according to reports my trade proposal can easily be shot down as merely a pipe dream): Lowe will not be traded for anything of serious value. Lowe is mainly a salary dump. The Braves will be fortunate if any team takes all of Lowe’s salary. The Braves do not have the players, or means, for acquiring Adrian. The Braves are not aiming for any hitter(s) of Adrian’s caliber. Three team deals are rare and should never be counted on as something of a serious possibility. The Braves have their sights set on obtaining low caliber hitters and bench players with defensive versatility.
In short, these are not the Braves of the 90’s that, when stating they are in a win mode, would actually obtain talent that would visibly verify a win-mode assertion.
I still like my dream though. Lowe for prospects, trade for Adrian. At that point I could tolerate Byrd in the outfield, but I’d be even happier with Nady in the outfield and Adrian at first. It’s a good dream. Keeps me smiling.
Joebrave
December 15th, 2009
11:39 am
Here is another
Cubs get: Lowe
Rays get:Bradley
Braves get:C.Pena
sidslidkid
December 15th, 2009
11:39 am
” Is it so unrealistic for the Atlanta Braves to sign a big bat? We aren’t the Pirates for crying out loud.”
Unfortunately it is a little unrealistic… unless you consider a guy like Nady a big bat. There are only 2 “big bats” in free agency. And as long as the New York, Chicago, LA, Boston, and Philly teams have the money and need for a player we aren’t going to be able to sign big name players. Especially in an offseason like this where the market is so thin. But, just because we don’t have Bay, Holiday or Pujols doesn’t mean we can’t make it to the playoffs. And once you’re in the playoffs any team has a chance to win. It’s just the teams with the highest payroll have a slightly better chance.
Rock On......
December 15th, 2009
11:40 am
RC….do you really want me going over all 40 something years I have been a Braves fan, LOL. Yeah, I was thinking more like the Tex thing recently though.
Justin
December 15th, 2009
11:43 am
Joe Braves the 3 team trade involving the tigers yanks and d backs have no bearing on the braves the 3 team trade right now has to happen before the braves make a move bc the market was pretty hot for Halladay and just bc their is alot of action from other clubs doesnt mean you have to have a quick trigger finger please shut up if you dont know what your talking about.
Confused
December 15th, 2009
11:44 am
Daslied- You forgot the two biggest wins. The Tigers trade and the Cubs trade!
Tiger Woods
December 15th, 2009
11:45 am
I don’t understand why people look at Nady as trash?? The guy is one of the best options left out there to be honest.
Das, Great post, I would agree with everyone of those. As much as people want to rag on Wren, you can’t. He has done a great job thus far. I know as fans we want things to happen now, but that’s not how the business works. It will happen soon enough and Wren will have this offense much improved with at least 2 above average adds to this ball club.
DAP
December 15th, 2009
11:49 am
RC The White Sox just cut Dewayne Wise, who would have cost them around $400k next year. I don’t see that advantage of trading talent for Pierre since he’s not much of an upgrade over Wise, in my opinion.
i think your opinion is flawed…they are quite different players. did you know juan pierre struck out just 27 times last year? thats the same amount as dewayne wise in more than twice as many ABs. pierre also hits for average and runs very well, with alot of SBs. wise does neither of those things. pierre isnt a great player or anything, and is certainly over paid, but he isnt useless.
AdirondackDave
December 15th, 2009
11:50 am
Tennessee Paul — I like your thinking there on trading Lowe for prospects and then adding those prospects to a couple of our own and reeling in Adrian. I deal in vintage guitars and spend most of my time thinking about wheeling and dealing instruments in much the same way GMs wheel and deal players. I don’t think your suggestion is beyond the realm of possibility. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. I have a lot of confidence in FW after the job he did with the starters. Maybe he’ll give us a couple pleasant surprises with the offense this winter.
Gimme A Break
December 15th, 2009
11:50 am
Xavier Nady? In the middle of a postseason push, the Mets traded Nady to the Pirates for a washed up Roberto Hernandez and a flaming out Oliver Perez. But now he’s the Braves answer?
N8
December 15th, 2009
11:50 am
Speaking of Tiger/HGH and all things PED. The Minnesota state courts have denied the NFL’s request for an appeal on the Williams boys’ PED case.
I guess if I’m a pro athlete who is interested in performing enhancers of any sort, I’m signing with the T-Wolves, Vikings, Twins or Wild. No big deal. Get busted, the state backs you up.
If I’m Roger Goodell, I’m looking for the first loophole that can pull the Vikings out of Minnesota. If a sports league isn’t allowed to “police” it’s employees, then what power does it have. Might as well make it a free for all, or you can take “competitive balance” and throw it right out the door. It’s a joke. My team (who already sucks), just lost Dwayne Bowe for 4 games for essentially the same crap. Lost his appeal and did his suspension.
But arguably the two best DT’s in the league get to keep playing because their state finds that the NFL has no right by their state laws to do random drug tests? Complete and utter BS. Yeah. I hate the frickin’ Vikings, so this makes it worse. But I’d feel the same way if the state of Missouri had done the same thing for Bowe.
Like I said. If I’m an NFL player and I’m doin’ anything I shouldn’t be, and it’s working for me? I’m BEGGING the Vikings to sign me. Why wouldn’t you?
im4ball
December 15th, 2009
11:50 am
KC
According to ESPN stats, since 2003 Nady has never played in more than 125 games per year which makes his average games played per year to be 75. ESPN stats say that he hit 20 HR’s (which is the most he ever hit) in 2007. his HR total is 87 over 9 years which is a almost a 10 HR per year avg. As for BA, I took out his two abberant years (where he hit over .300) and came up with a life time avg. of .267 which when looking at his stats is pretty accurate.
While .267 is an ok avg. it is not great. Avg of 10 HR’s per year is not that good. I think that the Braves can do better than to sign Nady.
Joebrave
December 15th, 2009
11:52 am
Justin,shouldn’t you be in class?
when you can recite the 69,82, and all 90s lineups to me then run your mouth!
Like I said,Wren will overplay the waiting game,as for three team trades smartass, that was a retort from another blog!
Gimme A Break
December 15th, 2009
11:52 am
I don’t understand why people look at Nady as trash?? The guy is one of the best options left out there to be honest. …………….
……………………… so said the man wearing beer goggles at closing time
DAP
December 15th, 2009
11:53 am
did you know juan pierre struck out just 27 times last year? thats the same amount as dewayne wise in more than twice as many ABs
to clarify this, pierre had more than twice as many ABs as wise and struck out the same amount…just 27 times.
Mizzou
December 15th, 2009
11:53 am
. . . Jason Heyward, Freddie Freeman . . .
Erik
December 15th, 2009
11:53 am
The Tigers trade was JS. I mean technically Wren had just taken over the GM roll but that was gift wrapped by JS.
The cubs trade has really worked out well so far though.
Jose Ascaino for Omar Infante and Will Ohman.
Ascaino is still young and had a good power arm though so we will see.
RHR
December 15th, 2009
11:54 am
Lunatic – of course they called it black friday. If Anders is any indication of the fanbase, he really thought they had a chance at Halladay and Lackey AND Holliday and that they would be spending like crazy. Now it appears the best they can hope for is Jason Bay? And apparently he’s waiting for a better offer from someone else…
Daslied
December 15th, 2009
11:56 am
Confused – you’re right! I totally forgot the Ohman/Infante for Ascanio (sp?) thing, but I was thinking the Tigers (JJ) deal was just before Wren took over.
Lew
December 15th, 2009
11:57 am
No, we’re NOT the Pirates. We have more money tied up in our pitching rotation than they do in their entire team.
Justin
December 15th, 2009
11:57 am
1962
Howie Bedell lf
Mack Jones rf
Hank Aaron cf
Eddie Matthews 3b
Joe Adcock 1b
Eddie Bolling 2b
Joe Torre c
Roy Mcmillan ss
Warren Spahn p
Is this good and enough and fast enough for your liking?? Wait just one minute…….
P-Town Brave
December 15th, 2009
11:57 am
Didn’t Ascanio already get traded to Pittsburgh from Chicago?
Andrew in PA
December 15th, 2009
11:57 am
if we could get chipper to defer some money since he was ass last year..we can get bay
DAP
December 15th, 2009
12:00 pm
i think we would get similar production to jason bay out of a jack cust/jonny gomes platoon in LF. thats definitely a 30+ homer platoon, right?
D-rock
December 15th, 2009
12:00 pm
im4ball –
You don’t read so good. Nady split the season with the Pirates and Yankees. He played 148 games and hit 25 homers. Plus he’s a right-handed bat. He’s gonna miss some time perhaps, but seems to be a good option for the money.
bravofan
December 15th, 2009
12:02 pm
andrewinpa: not a chance man
TennesseePaul
December 15th, 2009
12:02 pm
AdirondackDave: Thanks. I like the dream as well. It would certainly put this team in a winning position. Finally they’d have the combination of solid guys in the line up surrounding a big bat complemented with strong pitching.
But alas, according to reports it will never happen.
Joebrave
December 15th, 2009
12:04 pm
2 players to do 1 man’s job? now my head hurts
Justin
December 15th, 2009
12:04 pm
Ive posted the 62 lineup 3 times and they havnt put it on here but Joe I am a smartass but when you read enough of peoples comments that dont know what they are talking about you tend to jump the gun when you read something my apologies we are all braves fans right
Burdell
December 15th, 2009
12:04 pm
Would you send Shaefer, Medlen, Hicks, and say a Diaz-type to San Diego for Gonzalez if that would make San Diego pull the trigger?
Absolutely. But here’s how the discussion would go:
Wren: How about Shaefer, Medlen, Hicks, and another prospect for Adrian Gonzalez?
Hoyer: Is that other prospect Heyward or Hanson?
Wren: No.
Hoyer: All right, then. I hope you guys have a great holiday season…
Of course everyone knows that Hanson and Heyward are off limits, which is why the deal won’t get done.
Burdell
December 15th, 2009
12:05 pm
Darn it. you made me spell Schafer wrong because I copied and pasted…
Rob in pain from (SC)
December 15th, 2009
12:05 pm
Michael Taylor Will Be Traded For Brett Wallace
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [December 15 at 11:04am CST]
The Blue Jays will trade outfielder Michael Taylor to the A’s for third base prospect Brett Wallace, according to ESPN.com’s Buster Olney and Jerry Crasnick (via e-mail).
Lew
December 15th, 2009
12:05 pm
Andrew in Pa-You can’t have Chipper defer money unless you convert his 2013 option year to additional years and add more money to it. Since they aren’t going to extend a guy who will already be 40 at the end of his contract and aren’t going to add money to the extension he signed last season, you can just forget tht line completely.
David O'Brien
December 15th, 2009
12:06 pm
Schuerholz is on the Selig committee to improve the game of baseball. On a conference call now with Selig, La Russa and Selig. Selig just said, “There are no sacred cows — whatever they want to talk about, we will…”
Leyland, Torre are on the committee, with a few other managers and GMs past and present, and some club owners and presidents, etc.
Blah blah blah.
Tiger Woods
December 15th, 2009
12:08 pm
Cust/Gomes= 200 strikeouts
David O'Brien
December 15th, 2009
12:08 pm
The Tigers trade was JS. I mean technically Wren had just taken over the GM roll but that was gift wrapped by JS. — Erik
That’s incorrect.
Wren has known Tigers GM Dave Dombrowski for more than two decades, since working and serving as his asst. GM in Florida. They did the bulk of work on the trade.
TennesseePaul
December 15th, 2009
12:09 pm
On a conference call now with Selig, La Russa and Selig,
Sheeeesh. Selig micromanaged that meeting. Holding two seats in one meeting!