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Soph
December 13th, 2009
3:02 pm
That’s what a stop looks like.
Good job, D.
justdoit
December 13th, 2009
3:05 pm
a trade for rivera with even throwing in something like 15M over 3 years (5m per season) would leave them with plenty of money to sign laroche.
rainman
December 13th, 2009
3:06 pm
To me it looks like we will let heyward start in right. Hey he bats 8th and plays good d has to be as good as anderson. I love cust and diaz in left. If we could then give roachy a three year deal at 6-7 mill per our team would look much better than the start of last year. If freeman is ready early we could always deal adam.
cabravesfan
December 13th, 2009
3:06 pm
Sorry Soph-
I would love to see the Saints and Drew Brees go undefeated
Daybed Wagmoe
December 13th, 2009
3:06 pm
Maybe you missed the part where I did exactly that — jumped on it and dismissed it. In the next paragraph after I mentioned it.
Nope, I saw that part too, but still thought I’d mention it.
rainman
December 13th, 2009
3:08 pm
then save some cash for next year and sign crawford!!!
Soph
December 13th, 2009
3:09 pm
cab -
No, thank you. I like Brees a lot but the rest of them annoy me. Especially your USC boy, Reggie Bush.
Braves_Fan_RSD
December 13th, 2009
3:13 pm
tie game!!!!!!!!!!
Soph
December 13th, 2009
3:13 pm
TD! I’m proud of the Falcons offense today. No Ryan, no Turner but they’ve been solid.
cabravesfan
December 13th, 2009
3:14 pm
Soph-
Maybe he wouldn’t annoy you so much if your Falcons could stop him?
Tie game- at least the Falcons are making a game of it
MaineBrave
December 13th, 2009
3:15 pm
SNELLY TD
wow we have a game folks
CB
December 13th, 2009
3:16 pm
NO 5000
Jake W.
December 13th, 2009
3:16 pm
Got to give Redman credit today. Much improved over that Eagles game. Team effort today with all those starters missing. Proud of my falcons. Could have given up after that 3rd and 19 Td run by Bush.
THE BEAR Illegitimi non carborundum
December 13th, 2009
3:17 pm
Klaus, why should Prado not work out? He has a six year lifetime BA of .307. And over a 162 game period he drives in 93 runs and hits 14 home runs. How many second basemen can you name that you would rather have at that position?
For comparison, over a 162 games Chase Utley hits .295, drives in 106 runs and hits 29 home runs.
———-
Jake W., In 1997 The Marlins’ payroll was $42,798,000. Are you sure that was one of the highest payrolls in baseball?
sourse: http://www.baseball-almanac.com/teamstats/roster.php?y=1997&t=flo
Soph
December 13th, 2009
3:18 pm
cab -
Nah, that’s not it. We can’t stop Brees but I still like him. Didn’t Reggie declare himself Super Bowl MVP earlier this year? I’ll have to look it up later.
Soph
December 13th, 2009
3:21 pm
Pschhh, that’s a favorable spot. Are you kidding me?
Jake W.
December 13th, 2009
3:23 pm
The Bear, according to Baseball Chronology in 1997 the Marlins had a payroll just over 52 million and had the 5th highest payroll right behind the Braves who had a payroll of just over 53 million. Yankees had the highest payroll of just over 73 million. Now unless their wrong thats where I got my figures from.
THE BEAR Illegitimi non carborundum
December 13th, 2009
3:23 pm
Ryan Garko’s numbers are not bad at all. Based on his career numbers, over a 162 games he could be expected to hit .279 with 20 Home runs and drive in 89 runs.
Braves Lifer
December 13th, 2009
3:23 pm
Jake W.- Obviously teams that spend more have a greater likelihood of reaching the playoffs and winning a world series. My post was in argument to a post that said that base ball needs a salary cap. I brought up that parody in baseball is better than that of the NFL which has a salary cap. For example the last decade of World Series Winners compared to that of Super Bowl winners:
2000 Yankees , 2001 Diamondbacks, 2002 Angels, 2003 Marlins, 2004 Red Sox, 2005 White Sox, 2006 Cardinals, 2007 Red Sox, 2008 Phillies, 2009 Yankees
2000 Rams, 2001 Ravens, 2002 Patriots, 2003 Buccaneers, 2004 Patriots, 2005 Patriots, 2006 Steelers, 2007 Colts, 2008 Giants, 2009 Steelers
In summary: 8 different teams this decade have won a World Series and two teams have won it twice. 7 different teams won a Super Bowl with one team winning 3 times and another winning twice. So how does a salary cap increase parody in sports? I must be lost…
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 13th, 2009
3:24 pm
Andrew,
No. I have a virus that thinks it’s ok to spam this blog with whater ole Braves related thought that processes in me noggin’. I was actually sleeping like a log.
To Paul Lentz and co,
Paul was replying to some person about the Da Vinci Code. The blog was sloooooow, there wasnt a hot topic to talk about so this person started talking about movie, he joined in,
What’s up with the contentiousness in this place? Between Paul’s paranoia that the whole blog is out to go him, and everyone else’s provocative nature towards him, this is a very negative place.
Merry Christmas everyone!
Lentz is more
December 13th, 2009
3:27 pm
JJ, you actually that clueless?
Soph
December 13th, 2009
3:29 pm
Way to step up, defense! You guysssss. This is exciting.
Jay212033
December 13th, 2009
3:29 pm
Saints must be driving, no more Falcons talk
P'cola Brave
December 13th, 2009
3:30 pm
Lowe to Seattle to me seems more of a reality than the Angels now. With Figgins gone and the Mets in on Bay, the biggest market for Lackey is the Angels. Seattle was looking at Harden, Lackey, Washburn and Marquis.
Harden is now signed and I doubt they land Lackey. If the Mets don’t get in on Lackey then Marquis is probably their best bet for pitching. This is the year for the Mariners to make a move in the division and adding Lowe to that staff would be a big step.
I know Jose Lopez was mentioned as possible trade bait in Seattle but I don’t know that Lowe has enough value to swing him.
TommyP
December 13th, 2009
3:30 pm
Juan Rivera will be the bat we bring in. Said it last week…he WILL be the guy.
Lowe is NOT going to the Mets. Just isn’t gonna happen.
Nady wouldn’t be a bad pickup provided we also acquire a backup plan.
I’m shocked the Reds let Gomes go for as little as he commands in salary. He mashed this year.
MaineBrave
December 13th, 2009
3:30 pm
defense holded em to a FG, Great!
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 13th, 2009
3:30 pm
Yeah, I am, I don’t understand why all the bItchin and the fight and the puddin pops
18 Wheels of Love
December 13th, 2009
3:33 pm
DOB, you just made my swap of Lowe for G. Matthews, Jr. seem reasonable. No-dalis Perez!
And did you catch that Rolling Stone ‘Best Of’ issue? I got some issues with it of course. Funny how they give GnR’s latest ‘album’ 4 stars when it came out but they hilariously make fun of it….with good reason. No REM, no DBT’s, no Son Volt, no Steely Dan (album of the year in 2001), only 1 Beck mention…etc. Also my disclaimer is that I didn’t listen to half the crap they mention. It is all very debatable stuff…..future blog topic?
TommyP
December 13th, 2009
3:34 pm
No thanks on Jose Lopez. They can’t give that guy away right now.
gobraves
December 13th, 2009
3:35 pm
Does anyone know if Direct TV offers the Braves games on Peachtree TV in North Central Alabama?
Soph
December 13th, 2009
3:35 pm
I think the Dolphins are the only team that can make something out of the Wildcat.
*sigh*
I knew it was too good to be true.
cabravesfan
December 13th, 2009
3:35 pm
Soph-
Not that I am aware of but I really don’t follow the Saints all that closely…truth be told, I am annoyed with him because he got back together with Kim Kardashian
That had to hurt…sorry
Rhett
December 13th, 2009
3:36 pm
DOB – ‘The Messenger’ is one of the better movies I’ve seen in a long time. Surprisingly uplifting given the incredibly difficult subject matter, and the acting is superb. Highly recommended…..
MaineBrave
December 13th, 2009
3:36 pm
F*ck you redman!
MaineBrave
December 13th, 2009
3:36 pm
Man why do we always choke.
F*ck the Wildcat too
Braves Lifer
December 13th, 2009
3:36 pm
Basketball has a cap too right?
2000 Lakers, 2001 Lakers, 2002 Lakers, 2003 Spurs, 2004 Pistons, 2005 Spurs, 2006 Heat, 2007 Spurs, 2008 Celtics, 2009 Lakers.
Man that does not look better than baseball spread either. Do you think that maybe certain teams figure out what it takes to win and then execute? In the end Sports is about revenue generation and if it costs an owner more to win then its worth in the profit column they will eventually choose to spend less. IMO the Yankees are better for baseball then teams like the Pirates are. I’m sure that the Pirates love getting all of the revenue sharing money and would not be fans of a cap. What other business can you run that you start a profit even before you sell your product?
Paul Lentz
December 13th, 2009
3:38 pm
David O’Brien ………..In hindsight, the Derek Lowe signing doesnt look so good However Frank Wren had NO IDEA that Javier Vazquez would have the 2009 season that he did…….nor could he envision that Tommy Hanson would pitch like a stud upon his call-up from Triple A…….nor could he foresee Tim Hudson coming back good enough to re-sign.
Derek Lowe was a good signing for last year, given the disarray of the starting pitching in 2008. However on this team, his contract is a burden.
If Frank Wren can trade Lowe without the Braves having to eat a significant part of his contact, then he will have pull of a minor miracle. When it comes down to it, $15 mil a year for a 37 year old coming off an off year……..is not something that a team is going to go for……..unless the Braves are willing to eat a significant part of his contract.
Soph
December 13th, 2009
3:39 pm
Seriously! Why the hell do you run the Wildcat as the first play of the drive? I hate the Saints even more now. Both games vs. them were heartbreakers.
MaineBrave
December 13th, 2009
3:40 pm
Mike Mularkey tries to get too damn tricky with things, its a first down, pound the rock as see what we have from there.
Soph
December 13th, 2009
3:42 pm
Wow, why did the Saints do that?
THE BEAR Illegitimi non carborundum
December 13th, 2009
3:42 pm
Jake W., I checked your numbers and found them to be correct according to that report. And the source I used als reported the numbers I put up. Just goes to show you that not everything we read is right.
I was very surprised to find their payroll that high when compared to other teams. (That had to be before Luria got control.) Actually that was during Wayne Huizenga’s ownership. Wayne got disillusioned when he won the World Series and lost money or at least he said he lost money. He later sold the team to John Henry who later swapped it in his move to take over the Red Sox.
I dug into this further and found this bit about Huizenga losing $34 million in 1997 while winning the world series.
“Outgoing Dolphins majority owner H. Wayne Huizenga bid an emotional farewell to his favorite franchise Tuesday, but for the first time admitted he might have broke up the Marlins a year too soon after they won the 1997 World Series.
“We lost 34 million dollars the year we won the World Series and I just said, ‘You know what? I’m not going to do that,’” Huizenga said at Dolphins headquarters when asked if he had any regrets about dismantling the Marlins in the aftermath of their World Series triumph over the Indians.
“If I had to do it all over again I’d say, ‘OK, we’ll go one more year. I’m telling you right now at the end of this year I’m out of here.’ That’s what I would’ve done, but that’s in hindsight. There’s nothing you could do about it. The decision was made and we made it.”
source: http://www.fishstripes.com/2009/2/11/756040/huizenga-regrets-selling-o
Anyway we were both dealing in facts as we knew them from our research. I salute you.
David O'Brien
December 13th, 2009
3:42 pm
Falcons still got a chance here late. Good game. What an upset this would be, even if it’s in Atlanta.
Paul Lentz
December 13th, 2009
3:43 pm
TommyP……….You are out of your mind if you really believe that the Angels are going to give up a young, cheap right handed power hitter like Juan Rivera for an expensive, old starting pitcher coming off a down year like Derek Lowe
Simply not going to happen. No way will Frank Wren be able to sucker the Angels into going for that.
O.J.
December 13th, 2009
3:44 pm
I wouldnt mind Jose Lopez, but there are a few things that bother me, and that is his low OBP% of last year and the high number of GDP’s he had.
David O'Brien
December 13th, 2009
3:47 pm
18 Wheels, RS list has a bunch of admirable choices, but way too many glaring omissions (and some dubious inclusions).
Gone Viral
December 13th, 2009
3:47 pm
For an insurance salesman, Chris Redman has some game.
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 13th, 2009
3:49 pm
C’mon Hurricane Katrina Train!
Marko
December 13th, 2009
3:49 pm
NBA and NFL salary caps don’t stop the top teams from winning. Wouldn’t in MLB either.
The best solution I heard is to limit the amount of Type A/B free agents a team is able to sign.
The marlins are able to remain somewhat (but not really) competitive most years. However, they usually suck 1 or 2 years before gradually doing better (like they are on pace now). They’ll do okay the next 2 years and probably fall way back afterwards. After that, they dump everyone and lose most of the fan base that they don’t really have. Then they’ll field a minor league team which will get better and better.
While that method seems more likely to produce a single great year/championship, It also includes seasons that they are a joke and seasons that they are mediocre or just better. It’s not a good way to fill the stadium and build a following.
Paul Lentz
December 13th, 2009
3:50 pm
Ballgame.
Klaus
December 13th, 2009
3:50 pm
I am not saying Prado won’t work out but he is representing another position that has been unsettled for a bit.
2 yr KJ experiment, Prado bumps him etc.
His stats are fine is a broad point on postion instability.
Soph
December 13th, 2009
3:51 pm
So close, yet so far. Should’ve beat the Saints both times this season.
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 13th, 2009
3:51 pm
Man, I wish the Bear didn’t suck….
cabravesfan
December 13th, 2009
3:51 pm
Sorry Soph- that was a great game, Falcons refused to roll over…
BravesFanChris25
December 13th, 2009
3:52 pm
Saints 13 – 0.
David O'Brien
December 13th, 2009
3:53 pm
Oh, well … someday the Falcons will have consecutive winning seasons. But it now looks highly doubtful this year (they’d have to run the table in their last three games).
Paul Lentz
December 13th, 2009
3:54 pm
Hopefully the Cowboys will come out and play the like a play-off team today. We need to beat the Chargers at home.
David O'Brien
December 13th, 2009
3:54 pm
Klaus: Is the last line of your 3:50 p.m. comment in code, or do I need more coffee?
AdirondackDave
December 13th, 2009
3:56 pm
I went back to look at Atkins numbers for the 3rd or 4th time and the guy looks pretty darn good to me. He had a lousy last year and was fine before that. He hit as well away from Coors as he did at home and there doesn’t seem to be a big difference against righties and lefties. His defensive numbers look adequate at first and third, no gold glove for sure. I hope he’s on Frank’s radar screen if LaRoche is beyond our reach. What do you folks think of this guy?
Gone Viral
December 13th, 2009
3:56 pm
“but he is representing another position that has been unsettled for a bit”
Remember when Quilvio Veras was going to be the long term solution at the position? He tore up his knee and Weiss got hurt, cracking the door open long enough for Rafael Furcal to bust through.
MaineBrave
December 13th, 2009
3:57 pm
Im proud of the falcons, helleva effort given today
P'cola Brave
December 13th, 2009
3:58 pm
I like Atkins but there was a lot of talk about his numbers away from Coors.
The Blogger Formerly Known as Billy
December 13th, 2009
4:00 pm
They did not have a shot when they lost ryan and turner.
jeffrey d
December 13th, 2009
4:01 pm
Time to pull a Random
He will routinely take something out of context and try and make someone look bad. For instance, last night, a poster said the he was watching ‘Da Vinci Code’ on TNT Lentz
Here’s the comment
You know, I’ve seen the Da Vinci Code movie…. thought it was OK…but just can’t get past all the simple things in the movie that are so wrong… starting with the position of the Mona Lisa… I’ve been to the Louvre and that picture is no where near eye level and it has a case over it. Sorry…can’t sleep and I’ve got the movie on TNT in the background.
To which Lentz responds with a ridiculously long theological credence filled with incorrectly used quotation marks. Dude wasn’t looking for a religious debate. But that didn’t stop you. And religious debates are taboo on here, dude. You know that. I think you’ve gotten kicked off for that once. Sorry, I didn’t mean to take a “cheap shot.”
TnBrian
December 13th, 2009
4:02 pm
I haven’t kept up with the Falcons, so a question… has Matt Ryan lived up to the hype so far? I can’t imagine he has since the Falcons continue their losing ways.
P'cola Brave
December 13th, 2009
4:02 pm
Theres a 75 point difference in his avg away from Coors. Whats interesting is he has more HR away from coors.
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 13th, 2009
4:03 pm
Goodnight guys,
Sorry about your football, but remember…. JASON HEYWARD! Huh? Yea.
jeffrey d
December 13th, 2009
4:06 pm
1) It’s not likely that we’re (Falcons) going to the playoffs, and even if we make it, we’re not gonna go very far.
2) Another loss means another step up the draft ladder. If this season’s not going anywhere, in the long run a loss is better.
Or maybe I’m just being super pessimistic.
cabravesfan
December 13th, 2009
4:06 pm
TnBrian-
Matt Ryan has actually missed the last 2 games and a large part of a third with a bad foot…otherwise he has been solid if not spectacular this year
Gary O
December 13th, 2009
4:07 pm
TnBrian,
It maybe the so-called sophomore slump, but Ryan has struggled this year (mostly with his decision making), but considering injuries (especially to our running backs), and our defense is horrible, overall, he still looks ok. And he should continue to get better.
Eric In Albany N.Y.
December 13th, 2009
4:09 pm
51 bolg pages? really? Come on i cant wait till see the new blog!
Paul Lentz
December 13th, 2009
4:11 pm
jeffrey d……dude, did you see what time of the night it was when the topic of ‘Da Vinci Code’ came up? The blog was dead and I just happened to be watching it on TNT last night as well. I commented on it.
If you didnt like it, all you have to do is scroll over it.
Random
December 13th, 2009
4:11 pm
And now a word from Dobi’s Little Boy:
TnBrian (December 11th, 2009 12:08 pm): “I’ll admit, I’m going to start getting ticked if by next week we still haven’t gotten a good hitter. Really there’s no excuse. If you know one of Lowe/Vazquez will be traded at some point than why not go ahead & get that bat before you miss out on him? Seems like I’m reading more & more where so many teams are looking for that big bat in their lineup & I’m afraid Wren is stalling on this because he’s more of a “pitching & defense” guy.”
DOB (December 11th, 2009 1:45 pm): “Well, other than they’ve been focused on trading two pitchers, and are waiting like many teams to see who might become available after the non-tender deadline and, oh yeah, it’s Dec. 11. Two weeks until Christmas. We’re still closer to the end of the last season than we are to spring training, and we’re nearly four months from opening day.
There are still more than two months until pitchers and catchers report for spring training, TnBrian. I respect the passion, but really, at this point you’re feeling more of a sense of urgency than most teams are.”
TnBrian (December 13th, 2009 12:18 pm): “Wren obviously likes to get his business done as early as possible, just judging the last few offseasons. I think if not for trying unload Lowe’s contract he’d pretty much have one big hitter acquired by now. I’m as antsy as anybody, but take a step back & realize what he’s dealing with here. Maybe some of us should find another hobby for a little while until our team can start making some noise.”
P'cola Brave
December 13th, 2009
4:11 pm
Does Seattle have any good prospects that we could acquire from them for Lowe. They don’t seem to have a lot of depth on their ML roster so I’m assuming a trade for him would only command prospects and I’m sure Ackley wouldn’t be the one they’d give up.
jeffrey d
December 13th, 2009
4:12 pm
lol, why does it matter how many pages we have?
On a side note, whenever I get home from work I can tell when something big happens when there’s a huge spike in the the number of comments.
TommyP
December 13th, 2009
4:14 pm
Paul: Then I’m out of my mind which sounds like it puts me on a different team than you (which is just fine with me, bro).
Paul Lentz
December 13th, 2009
4:17 pm
P’cola Brave……….dude, Seattle (nor any team out there) will give the Braves any legit prospects for Derek Lowe. If anything, the Braves will be fortunate to dump Lowe (and eat around $5 mil per year of the remaining 3 years on his contract) for a “bag of balls” type prospect.
dogsbrekky
December 13th, 2009
4:18 pm
Movies – went and saw the latest Almadovar flick “Broken Embraces” last night with a semi nude (at times) Penelope Cruz……….. disappointing contrived claptrap…. boring movie, vry predictable
THE BEAR Illegitimi non carborundum
December 13th, 2009
4:18 pm
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 13th, 2009
3:51 pm
Man, I wish the Bear didn’t suck….
—————–
It must be tough when The Bear stuffs your stupid words down your throat. Is that what you meant to say? You promised to get off this board forever if we proved you wrong and again you lied as you always seem to do.
You have proved you are a fool and you go to great lengths to show us why we should think that.
You will learn someday to be careful about jumping my case. I don’t involve myself in anything I can’t prove. I have never been much for opinions on blogs like this. And I sure as hell don’t make ignorant statements like you made when you said that all players who play a single day in the majors draw the major league minimum forever afterward. That was about the dumbest thing I have seen on this blog and that is saying a lot. And you were ignorant enough to say you were 99% certain you were right. What a dumbarse.
I warned you not to make a fool of yourself and you typically ignored that also. You really are stupid.
Lentz is more
December 13th, 2009
4:18 pm
Hopefully the chargers will put the smack down on the Boys today…
C's
December 13th, 2009
4:19 pm
Who cares how many pages are on the blog. Especially considering DOB posts regularly within all those pages.
Freaking vultures……..
Tennbravefan
December 13th, 2009
4:19 pm
Some random thoughts about Prado:
There are several things I worry about for the Braves in 2010, like who will hit cleanup, and will Chipper rebound. I do not in any way worry about Martin Prado. Dude plays the game the way it should be played. He’ll hit .300 next year, knock in 70 to 80, and hit 12 to 15 HRs, excellent production from 2nd base and the 2 spot in the line-up. My two favorite guys on this team are Prado and Matt Diaz because they understand their roles on the team and perform those roles perfectly.
TommyP
December 13th, 2009
4:21 pm
The truth is the Braves are waiting on the FA market to shore up before pursuing deals for hitters. Once Bay signs and Holliday signs, we’ll have a better idea of which players are available.
If Holliday goes to the Yanks, they have Swisher and Cabrera to deal. (we’ll gladly take Swisher)
If Holliday/Bay goes to the Angels, Rivera is a guy they could move.
If/when Lackey signs elsewhere, the Angels have cleared some payroll along with Figgins to go after higher salaried players.
One of the hitters the Braves acquire will be a solid right handed bat and the other will be a guy we get cheap with upside. (i.e. Nady)
BosnianBaller
December 13th, 2009
4:21 pm
Any chance Brooks Conrad takes Kelly’s job.
dogsbrekky
December 13th, 2009
4:22 pm
Tennebravefan
WORD
jeffrey d
December 13th, 2009
4:22 pm
Whatever…let’s just drop it Paul
TommyP
December 13th, 2009
4:25 pm
TennBravefan: Well said on Prado. I agree. He’s the least of our worries. (actually, he’s NOT a worry)
P'cola Brave
December 13th, 2009
4:27 pm
I seriously doubt that the Angels will move Rivera. Bay will probably end up with the Mets and Holliday with the Sox. Lackey will probably resign with the Angels.
Jake W.
December 13th, 2009
4:30 pm
In summary: 8 different teams this decade have won a World Series and two teams have won it twice. 7 different teams won a Super Bowl with one team winning 3 times and another winning twice. So how does a salary cap increase parody in sports? I must be lost…
Well you are lost, in terms of the point I was trying to make. Yes baseball has had more parody than the NFL in terms of teams who have won the championship overall this decade. But if the Yankees and other large payroll teams are allowed to continue spending the way they are that trend will likely not last. My point was the lack in parody between the higher payroll teams and the lower payroll teams. How far do these lower payroll teams usually make it. Once again I don’t have a problem with the Braves payroll, but I can see why some fans of other teams don’t like the current status quo.
2000, Yankees had the highest payroll
2001, D-backs the 8th highest
2002, Angels 15th highest
2003, Marlins 26th highest
2004, Red Sox 2nd highest
2005, White Sox 12th highest
2006, Cardinals 11th highest
2007, Red Sox 2nd Highest
2008, Phillies 12th highest
2009, Yankees had the highest
Only once during that decade did a team in the lower half of the league in payroll win the championship.
2000, Rams( couldn’t find theirs)
2001, Ravens 13th in payroll
2002, Patriots 23rd in payroll
2003, Bucs 16th in payroll
2004, Patriots 9th in payroll
2005,Patriots 24th in payroll
2006,Steelers 10th highest
2007,Colts had the highest payroll
2008,Giants 32nd in payroll
2009,Pittsburgh 6th highest
Thats 4 teams from the lower half of their league in payroll that won the championship out of the 9 years where I could find the payroll. Baseball has had one this decade. A salary cap is just a start at better equity in the league but as I said earlier more money isn’t a guarantee to winning. It does though make it a whole lot easier when you do produce talent to have a chance at keeping it. Like I said, you may it view it differently if you are one of the teams on the lower end of the payroll spectrum and they have a right not to like it. Never said salary cap would make it perfect, but in my opinion it would be a start.
Lentz is more
December 13th, 2009
4:34 pm
let’s try “Parity” for five hundred Alex…
Paul Lentz
December 13th, 2009
4:35 pm
I know that I have been pushing for Jason Heyward to start the year in Triple A. However, if the Braves could make a push and sign Matt Holliday to a contract averaging $17 mil a year…….then I would be totally open to having Heyward start the year as our starting right fielder. Matt Diaz could be the 4th outfielder. If Heyward struggles, Diaz could be inserted as the right fielder.
By signing Holliday, the Braves would have an outfield of Holliday, McLouth and Heyward. The Braves would have a few million left over to fill out the roster with a back-up infielder, starting first baseman and either another reliever (if they want to carry 13 pitchers) or another pinch hitter. They could fill those 3 roster spots either from within the farm system or from cheap free agents.
Imagine this line-up:
1. Nate McLouth
2. Martin Prado
3. Chipper Jones
4. Matt Holliday
5. Brian McCann……(against lefties, switch with Escobar)
6. Yunel Escobar
7. Jason Heyward
8. cheap first baseman
9. pitcher
I know, it’s a long shot that the Braves go after Holliday. However, I feel that it would be worth the risk (provided that Frank Wren can somehow dump Lowe’s contract without the Braves having to eat a big chuck of it).
AdirondackDave
December 13th, 2009
4:36 pm
P’cola Braves — Are you looking at last years numbers for Atkins? I looked at his career numbers and, unless I had a senior moment, his stats were about the same at Coors and away. Also against righties and lefties. Am I wrong here?
Jake W.
December 13th, 2009
4:36 pm
Lentz is more , sometimes when someone starts a trend its good to just jump on it. Hence all the pre-madonna’s around here….
nolie
December 13th, 2009
4:36 pm
He hit as well away from Coors as he did at home and there doesn’t seem to be a big difference against righties and lefties. AD
where did you see that he hit as well away from Coors as at home?Heis a career .327 hitter at home and .250 away. Exactly how is that the same? He’s about half the hitter away from Coors.
nolie
December 13th, 2009
4:39 pm
why all the talk about 50 pages? we’ve broken that level b4. Twice actually I think.
AdirondackDave
December 13th, 2009
4:40 pm
Nolie — I’ll go back and look at Atkins career numbers again.
P'cola Brave
December 13th, 2009
4:40 pm
AdirondackDave
I looked at his career splits at home and away.
Paul Lentz
December 13th, 2009
4:40 pm
people will complain about anything. First, postings are too long. Now, the blog is too many pages.
ADD must be spreading.
P'cola Brave
December 13th, 2009
4:41 pm
his average is down away from coors but he has more HR away from coors.
Paul Lentz
December 13th, 2009
4:46 pm
Any of you guys following ESPN’s Streak for the Cash contest? The top 7 steaks are battling it out for $1 million dollars. The longest streak from Friday to Monday wins.
Right now, 3 people have 7 in a row. However one of them (the only female among the 7) has picked the Cowboys to win, while the other 2 havent made any new picks yet.
Lentz is more
December 13th, 2009
4:47 pm
Dentz seems to have a fixation on ADD.. things that make you go hmmmmm???