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ease19
December 13th, 2009
12:03 am
nolie you went to a Nickleback concert? Oh the respect is in the decline…Like my boss’s husband going to a Britney Spears concert (which really happened)…
Maine
December 13th, 2009
12:03 am
Garko on the Market also
nolie
December 13th, 2009
12:04 am
I’d rather get beaten around the head and neck with a hockey stick for two hours than go to a two-hour Nickelback concert. Steve
you could double the length of the beating and halve the length of the concert and i would still agree
ease19
December 13th, 2009
12:04 am
Steve from OH – Me too! really late and too many Christmas parties with free booze…
Steve from OH
December 13th, 2009
12:05 am
ease19–well, uh, at least your excuse sounds fun…
nolie
December 13th, 2009
12:06 am
olie you went to a Nickleback concert? Ease
I had no choice in the matter, it was either that or opt for serious bodily injury as an excuse. And it would have to have been waaay more serious than Steve’s beating to work,
African Safari
December 13th, 2009
12:06 am
I would also say that KU would still be a legitimate top 5 team without Henry…UK would be a .500 team (or worse) without Wall right now.
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 13th, 2009
12:08 am
you could double the length of the beating and halve the length of the concert and i would still agree
*Covers Ears* Lalalalalalalalalalala I can’t hear you!! LALALALAALALALALA! Nickelback is good.
jed
December 13th, 2009
12:08 am
is “mellow dramatic” a blog term i missed out on?
nolie
December 13th, 2009
12:09 am
Hey Safari I meant to ask you what temperature does it have to be to freeze water in the Sahara?
Brandon from Warner Robins
December 13th, 2009
12:09 am
Another question for the blog…
Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather? Who wins?
I say Pacquiao in a 12 round thriller.
ease19
December 13th, 2009
12:09 am
nolie – I would take serious bodily injury over most things…”happily” married for the most part so I get used to that!
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 13th, 2009
12:10 am
Didn’t ever think Bon Jovi would ever be introduced by Taylor Fifteen Minutes
nolie
December 13th, 2009
12:10 am
is “mellow dramatic” a blog term i missed out on Jed
sounds like onea them thar oxygenmorons to me
Andrew in PA
December 13th, 2009
12:12 am
Pacquiao will put Mayweather in his place …finally.
Andrew in PA
December 13th, 2009
12:13 am
this blog holds up great with all the comments
Paul Lentz
December 13th, 2009
12:14 am
nolie…………concerning your 9:54pm posting….it isnt that I feel that Boone Logan “deserves” a raise from $450K to $1.2 mil……..its the fact that plays eligible for salary always get a drastic raise in their first year of salary arbitration.
Look at Jeff Francoeur. He had a terrible 2008 season. Yet his salary jumped from $460K to $3,375 mil. So knowing that, it isnt hard to say that Logan will probably get around $1.2 mil for 2010.
Your posting is misleading. When I made my projected salaries for arbitration eligible players………my projections arent necessarily based on what the player “deserves”. It’s based on production AND on how the salary arbitration works. For you to imply that I feel that Logan “deserves” a raise to $1.2 mil is nothing more than a cheap shot.
nolie
December 13th, 2009
12:14 am
Ease you know how it is when you’re single and trying to impress some sweet young thing about half your age . almost anything will be attempted as long as it doesn’t immediately put you in peril of a coronary.
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 13th, 2009
12:14 am
Andrew,
Yea, that’s true, they do a really good job
jed
December 13th, 2009
12:15 am
nolie–thanks for responding. interesting perspective and a thoroughly reasonable approach, lessening the variables. i dont know though…i think nady and glaus are pretty solid gambles. and this team could use some punch. then again, mmhmm, what happens with my grand scheme if they both wind up on the DL?
Steve from OH
December 13th, 2009
12:15 am
Your posting is misleading. When I made my projected salaries for arbitration eligible players………my projections arent necessarily based on what the player “deserves”. It’s based on production AND on how the salary arbitration works. For you to imply that I feel that Logan “deserves” a raise to $1.2 mil is nothing more than a cheap shot.
I wonder if Nickelback is in town tonight?
Steve from OH
December 13th, 2009
12:16 am
almost anything will be attempted as long as it doesn’t immediately put you in peril of a coronary.
Eh, wouldn’t be the worst way to go…
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 13th, 2009
12:17 am
If SNL doesn’t have Christopher Walken, Norm Macdonald, or Will Ferrel, it just it’s worth watching, which sucks because SNL is my favorite show, and I love sketch comedy.
Lol, Tiger Woods side dishes
Andrew in PA
December 13th, 2009
12:17 am
hey,are first basemen is finally available…..ryan garko,frank wrens big move
ease19
December 13th, 2009
12:18 am
nolie Does not change with marriage…with you bro…
And now that Dentz is back, time to retire….
Paul Lentz
December 13th, 2009
12:18 am
THE BEAR Illegitimi non carborundum…..props for your 10:28pm posting. I’ve been busy doing a few things this evening and didnt have time to do a thorough search on the net to prove Jurrjens4NLCY wrong.
Jurrjens4NLCY simply was fixed on the misinformation that once a player is called up, he gets paid the MLB minimum for the rest of the season, regardless if he is sent back down after only 10 days and stays in the minors the rest of the season.
Andrew in PA
December 13th, 2009
12:19 am
ohhhhhhh furrrrrr surrrrrrrreeee
nolie
December 13th, 2009
12:19 am
i think nady and glaus are pretty solid gambles. and this team could use some punch. then again, mmhmm, what happens with my grand scheme if they both wind up on the DL? JED
that’s kinda my point, we really have no idea what will happen, anybody’s approach could be the one that works out this time, that’s just mine.
I would take Glaus and Nady who have been somewhat consistant when healthy, over some others who jump all over the place.
¿quien sabe? in baseball even ’sure things’ don’t always end up well every year and none of the guys we have been discussing are anywhere near sure things
Andrew in PA
December 13th, 2009
12:20 am
Jurrjens, ohhhh furrrrr surrrrrre
nolie
December 13th, 2009
12:21 am
Eh, wouldn’t be the worst way to go Steve
nope, but it would definitely put the Kibosh on scoring that night.
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 13th, 2009
12:22 am
Steve from OH,
Ok,
8 hour Nickelback and Alanis Morissette concert… simultaneously
or read a 400 page novel written by Paul Lentz evaluating all of Frank Wren’s mistakes.
nolie
December 13th, 2009
12:23 am
8 hour Nickelback and Alanis Morissette concert… simultaneously
or read a 400 page novel written by Paul Lentz evaluating all of Frank Wren’s mistakes JJ
oh man that’s a toughie
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 13th, 2009
12:23 am
I’ve been busy doing a few things this evening and didnt have time to do a thorough search on the net to prove Jurrjens4NLCY wrong.
You didn’t prove me wrong
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 13th, 2009
12:24 am
(he said, regretting the decision)
Steve from OH
December 13th, 2009
12:24 am
Can I jump in front of a zamboni instead, JJ?
jed
December 13th, 2009
12:24 am
jurrjens—could you tell us more about “mellow dramatic”?
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 13th, 2009
12:25 am
Andrew in PA
Norm MacDonald = Best News Anchor EVER!
Bravo fan from ChiTown
December 13th, 2009
12:25 am
Just a though for 4th outfielder/bench player…
Jack Cust was non-tendered by the A’s. Led the team in HR’s 2 yr in a row. Better option than Nady?
Paul Lentz
December 13th, 2009
12:26 am
Steve from OH…….being happy for Gorecki has nothing to do with the fact that Braves fans like me want to see players on the team who produces.
As far as you being surprised about the Braves not being able to get anything for Kelly………I cant help but ask “WHAT PART OF YOU CANT COMPREHEND THE FACT THAT NO TEAM WANTS TO RISK PAYING KELLY JOHNSON $3.5-$4 MIL FOR THE 2010 SEASON”?
I’m sure that Kelly will probably get a number of offers. I recognize that there are teams out there willing to give him a chance to win a job and possibly start for them. After all, he has produced in the past. However because of his struggles last season, no team wants to give him a chance for a $4 mil salary.
Just watch what Kelly Johnson ends up signing for. Perhaps then you’ll see why no one wanted to trade for him. There will be HUGE DIFFERENCE between what Kelly ends up signing for……and what he would have gotten with the Braves if the Braves were foolish enough to offer him salary arbitration.
nolie
December 13th, 2009
12:27 am
Well I think I will go watch an Inglorious Bastards/Inglorious Basterds double dip on the ol’ wide screen. Nite y’all!
Eric In Albany N.Y.
December 13th, 2009
12:27 am
Robin Quivers = Best News Anchor EVER!
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 13th, 2009
12:27 am
Steve from OH,
No.
Jed,
It’s an inside joke, honestly I didn’t realize I used it here. My friend… ahh It’s a long story
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 13th, 2009
12:28 am
That Armisen appearance on Weekend Update was a trainwreck. Maybe back when Native Americans were culturally relevant. Like the 1800’s.
ease19
December 13th, 2009
12:28 am
But before I retire… I will say this, injuries happen, and for the most part players recover and are sometimes even better as the result. Myself, I had rotater cuff surgery in my junior year of high school, and wen t on to have decent (if not not dominate) career in college. Point is, injuries happen and with proper rehab, are not relevant in “most” cases…
Steve from OH
December 13th, 2009
12:29 am
I’ll take the Nickelback, JJ. At least there are chicks there…
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 13th, 2009
12:29 am
Better option than Nady?
Hell to the naaaaaaaaah.
Andrew in PA
December 13th, 2009
12:29 am
Cust hit 231 and 240 the last two years..he’d better have 35-40 home runs for that average..i’d say no
African Safari
December 13th, 2009
12:30 am
nolie -
Freezing and boiling points change based on pressure, caused by severe elevation changes (or scientific research situations. The Sahara Desert only has a mean elevation near 2,00 feet.
Cherokee
December 13th, 2009
12:30 am
Jack Cust was non-tendered by the A’s. Led the team in HR’s 2 yr in a row. Better option than Nady? Bravo Chi
here we go with the 230 batting averages and atrocious defense again. If we had a DL it might be worth it.
Steve from OH
December 13th, 2009
12:31 am
ease–absolutely. Surgical technique and especially rehab procedure/adherence has improved tremendously over the years. Most (emphasis on “most,” naysayers) of those common injuries pose relatively little risk in my eyes anymore, especially TJ in a large majority of cases.
African Safari
December 13th, 2009
12:33 am
I should also add that adding a solvent can change freezing/boiling points…think using salt on roads to raise the freezing point of water.
jed
December 13th, 2009
12:33 am
okay. it’s funnier than what i’m watching on SNL.
and nolie, i expect wren will split the difference between the approaches we’re talking about. i’m expecting him to sign nady, and either cameron or someone like willingham thru trade. one gamble and one safer choice.
Cherokee
December 13th, 2009
12:33 am
Point is, injuries happen and with proper rehab, are not relevant in “most” cases… EASE 19
I agree. I prefer a player coming off injury to one who is healthy but inconsistent, as long as the docs say he is ok. Of course there is always a Hampton once in a while
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 13th, 2009
12:35 am
okay. it’s funnier than what i’m watching on SNL.
Here: For the good old days: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLkdSDAw1gU
nolie
December 13th, 2009
12:36 am
I should also add that adding a solvent can change freezing/boiling points…think using salt on roads to raise the freezing point of water. Safari
I know, I was making a joke on freezing water in the Sahara which is not usually associated with freezing, though I’m aware the nights can be cold. Sorry a poor attempt at humor.
nolie
December 13th, 2009
12:38 am
OK I posted this once b4 but I guess the names refused to come through. I am gonna go watch a double dip of the Inglorious Bast…. movies on the ol’ widescreen. G’nite y’all
African Safari
December 13th, 2009
12:39 am
nolie -
Oh…. I only mentioned it in the first place because people on here make such absolute comments as though they can’t be wrong…yet…well…are.
Paul Lentz
December 13th, 2009
12:42 am
Cherokee……..your 11:00pm posting pondered why some people on here complain about “long postings”.
Dude, in case you didnt know it, there are many a poster on here who suffers from ADD (Attention Deficit Disorder). Any posting longer than 2 sentences gives them intense migraines.
Like you, I enjoyed reading about the Minor League player who testified in front of Congress about his experiences in the Minors.
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 13th, 2009
12:43 am
Lentz,
There is a difference between a reader with ADD and a poster with ADD.
Paul Lentz
December 13th, 2009
12:45 am
Steve from OH…….dude, complaining about a long posting makes about as much sense as someone who complains about short postings. People have the right to say as much, or as little as they want.
If you dont like what someone says, just skip over it. The whole world doesnt need to hear that a person suffering from ADD doesnt like long postings.
Paul Lentz
December 13th, 2009
12:46 am
Jurrjens4NLCY……….in other words, if I had taken you up on your bet…..you would have went the “shyster” route, just like the well-known “shyster” RANDOM? Not surprising.
Steve from OH
December 13th, 2009
12:47 am
The whole world doesnt need to hear that a person suffering from ADD doesnt like long postings.
And the whole world doesn’t need to know that you don’t like people complaining about long posts, either. Call it both ways or shut it.
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 13th, 2009
12:48 am
Lentz,
Just to be clear, I wasn’t directing that to you.
I’d be more than happy to make a similar bet with you, If you wanted…
Brandon from Warner Robins
December 13th, 2009
12:52 am
Is LaRoche still in the picture or have the braves moved on?
Paul Lentz
December 13th, 2009
12:55 am
Steve from OH…….hey, I was just firing back and letting the complainers about long posters know that some of us “long posters” arent going anywhere.
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 13th, 2009
12:57 am
Lentz,
No, if you could give me evidence, I wouldn’t have posted for 3 years, like I said
Steve from OH
December 13th, 2009
12:57 am
Well, that’s it for me tonight. Got a long day ahead of me tomorrow.
Go Braves!
Paul Lentz
December 13th, 2009
1:04 am
Jurrjens4NLCY………just imagine how the board would have lit up and vilified me if the Braves had tendered Kelly Johnson.
Next on the agenda of “who’s right” is the Derek Lowe situation.
Will I be wrong and see Derek Lowe traded without the Braves having to eat ANY of his salary (unless the Braves are courageous enough to trade for Milton Bradley, which would mean that the Braves would not have to eat any of Lowe’s salary)?
And if the Braves end up eating part of Lowe’s salary, will they have to eat at least $5 mil a season……………..or will I be wrong and see the Braves eat $3 mil a season or less of the contract?
Best case scenario, Frank Wren will find a sucker who will assume Lowe’s whole contract. However, I just dont see it happening. And as I was trying to say in a previous posting………….IF Frank Wren can unload Lowe’s whole contract, then perhaps there would be a chance that the Braves would have enough money to make a serious contract proposal to Matt Holliday. I said IF.
African Safari
December 13th, 2009
1:04 am
You know, I’ve seen the Da Vinci Code movie…. thought it was OK…but just can’t get past all the simple things in the movie that are so wrong… starting with the position of the Mona Lisa… I’ve been to the Louvre and that picture is no where near eye level and it has a case over it. Sorry…can’t sleep and I’ve got the movie on TNT in the background.
African Safari
December 13th, 2009
1:09 am
Does anyone know if there is any truth to a rumor I’ve heard that the iPhone is moving to Verizon in 2010? My contract with ATT is up in February and I am starting to look into what I might want to do at that time.
David O'Brien
December 13th, 2009
1:15 am
Guys don’t make $400,000 while playing minor league ball, not unless they’re on major league contracts and get sent down. Some have split contracts that pay a lot more for any time they’re in the majors, but they don’t have $400,000 straight salaries for minor league contracts….
Highly recommend Up In The Air, the new George Clooney movie. Saw the late one tonight, and loved it. Really well done, original, and Clooney is exceptional, as always…
Turner Gill was the guy I wanted my alma mater to hire. He’s going to be a recruiting force. Great hire….
Just got home and saw the Heisman highlights. Amazingly close race. Good to see Suh get a lot of votes. And how ’bout Ingram? 19 years old, wins Heisman. Wow….
Paul Lentz
December 13th, 2009
1:20 am
African Safari……….I never understood why people got so “up in arms” over the concept of “Jesus” possibly getting married and having kids.
I’ve made it clear in the past that I do not believe in any higher power. However, I attended church growing up and I understand the “concept” of “Jesus”.
Saying that, I’ll play “Devil’s Advocate” and say “let’s suppose that there is a god and that Jesus was god in the flesh”? If he really did live 30 something years on earth some 2,000 years ago…….if he hungered, thirsted, sweated, laughed, cried, shivered in the cold, felt pain like a man, etc………..if he worked and had the customs of “man”………why would it be so hard to comprehend that “Jesus” in fact got married and had kids?
It would have looked very odd back in those days for a 30 year old man to not be married. After all, life spans were much shorter back then.
And besides, if I was “god” and came to the earth in the body of a man…….you can bet your sweet A$$ that I would be sampling some of “my creation”, lol. What is the point of being “god” if you cant enjoy the fruits of being “god”? To imply that it is blasphemy to suggest that “Jesus” had sex…..implies that there is something wrong with sex. Those in the media who are vilifying Tiger Woods for hitting everything that moves…….in fact are mostly jealous themselves. If they were in Tiger’s shoes, they’d be nailing all the poontang that crossed their path.
Regardless of whether “jesus” is the son of god or not (I say not)…..it is very easy for me to believe that he got married and had a family 2,000 years ago. Religious leaders get laid like crazy. Study your history.
Randy S
December 13th, 2009
1:23 am
Spectacular show at the House of Blues in New Orleans tonight. The one and only John Prine in fine form.
DOB – you into Prine? Can’t remember if you have mentioned him before. He has some McMurtry about him.
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 13th, 2009
1:23 am
Lentz,
I’ll take that bet
Brandon from Warner Robins
December 13th, 2009
1:23 am
If I had a vote for Heisman it would have went to Toby Gerhart(?) of Stanford. He’s was a constant force throughout the season and led the nation in a couple of categories, TD and Yards I believe.
And I agree with you DOB, I think Turner Gill will find great success in the Big 12. Guy can flat out coach. Football will still probably be on the back burner to basketball, but you never know.
Brandon from Warner Robins
December 13th, 2009
1:24 am
Paul,
I must’ve missed something. What brought up the topic of your last post?
Soph
December 13th, 2009
1:24 am
Ay-yi-yi.
jeffrey d
December 13th, 2009
1:27 am
Oh Paul…
jeffrey d
December 13th, 2009
1:29 am
I’ll just bite my toungue on this one.
NS
December 13th, 2009
1:29 am
D.O.B.
Any chance Braves sign any of the non-tendered players tomorrow?
And Mark Ingram is 21..
Paul Lentz
December 13th, 2009
1:30 am
Brandon from Warner Robins……..African Safari brought up the fact that he’s watching ‘The Da Vinci Code’ right now on TNT.
Soph
December 13th, 2009
1:32 am
I’ll just bite my toungue on this one.
Yup. It’s not like saying something to him will do any good. In one ear and out the other.
mattdrum
December 13th, 2009
1:33 am
Just checking in. Are you guys seriously debating Nickelback on the blog? I mean, come on.
jeffrey d
December 13th, 2009
1:33 am
I brought up that I was watching Blades of Glory the other day and no one felt the need to write a five paragraph essay on the triple axel.
African Safari
December 13th, 2009
1:37 am
Paul Lentz -
Sorry, I am the type of guy that points out all the impossibilities of movies…I wasn’t intending to start a theological debate… My points was that I have actually been to the Louvre and the Mona Lisa is not accessible the way the movie portrayed…it is considerably higher on the wall than eye-level and is in a casing.
Of course, I easily see inaccuracies in movies all the time. Like when they change shots back and forth and people’s hair is different…or wet and the dry and they wet again…crap like that.
The A Bomb
December 13th, 2009
1:41 am
This is hilarious.
I don’t come in here for the past two months and when I come in I still see Lentz against the world. Same stuff different month! LOL!!!!
In one area he’s right. NOTHING will go down with the pitching until the Lackey-Halladay situation shakes out. Wren would be a fool to pull any triggers until then.
It’s just ridiculous how many of you discuss irrelevant non-contributors — Johnson, Gorecki, etc. Who’s next? Ken Oberkfell?
Lentz — you need to be careful discussing “man crushes” considering where you’re from.
Bill Hohn — visit an umpiring camp.
Back to hibernation.
Lentz is more
December 13th, 2009
1:45 am
the only man crush Lentz has is on himself..
jeffrey d
December 13th, 2009
1:46 am
Same stuff different month! LOL!!!!
It’s like a period
nolie
December 13th, 2009
1:58 am
Guys don’t make $400,000 while playing minor league ball, not unless they’re on major league contracts and get sent down. Some have split contracts that pay a lot more for any time they’re in the majors, but they don’t have $400,000 straight salaries for minor league contracts… DOB
Gee I think that’s what I said JJ. some day you are gonna learn to listen to my warnings. That’s a couple times now that I tried to save you from dumb bets
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 13th, 2009
2:02 am
Lentz,
Where are you?
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 13th, 2009
2:06 am
Soph and jeffrey d,
Why did Lentz’s post bother you so much?
Paul Lentz
December 13th, 2009
2:10 am
African Safari…………actually I enjoyed both reading and seeing ‘Da Vinci Code’. History is a fascinating subject. Learning more and more about how humans evolved, both from a physical and societal standpoint, shows how far we’ve come as a species.
Just as today, when we look back at stuff that people used to believe (Greek & Roman mythology, the sun revolving around the earth, the earth being flat, Indian rain dances, etc)…….1000 years from now, I’m sure that our decedents will look back and say to themselves “damn, I cant believe that humans believe in the religious nonsense that was common in those times”.
One thing that is a historical fact in ‘Da Vinci Code’ is the Council of Nicea. There was no official bible until the Council of Nicea. A bunch of bishops debated about what books should and shoudnt be in the bible. Most Christians believe that god wrote the bible. However, in 325 A.D. the bible and what was to be preached to the flock was debated and voted on by the bishops.
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 13th, 2009
2:16 am
Lentz
I, and I mean this from the bottom of my heart, I think you are a truly fascinating man, a diamond in the ruff. I want to interview you
Redstick19
December 13th, 2009
2:26 am
NS- Ingram was born in 1990… you do the math. Never doubt the DOB!
N8
December 13th, 2009
2:27 am
“Hell, give me Don Dokken and George Lynch any day over them. At least Lynch can tear it up…” Steve
Not sure on the Don Dokken part. That band almost would have been better with Pilson singing, and Don staying at home. Anyhow, go youtube George Lynch and Dave Navarro. Dave Nav must have an internet show where he does intervies and what not, and he has guitarist come on and give him a “lesson”. There’s a clip where Lynch is showing him how to play Mr. Scary. Their rap back and forth is actually pretty funny.
African Safari
December 13th, 2009
2:41 am
I love that Best Buy commercial about the HDTV…. “it looks some awesome…he’s gonna have a cow.”
“Moo”
Hilarious stuff.
Paul Lentz
December 13th, 2009
2:55 am
Jurrjens4NLCY………you can interview me anytime. I’ll answer anything you want to know.
The Blogger Formerly Known as Billy
December 13th, 2009
4:52 am
Jurrjens, if you still think a player, with out a MLB contract, earns 400K just for one day in the show.
If so, your wrong.
Jurrjens4NLCY
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 13th, 2009
5:18 am
Did the blog crash for a while?
Thats what I thought…
nolie
December 13th, 2009
5:23 am
yeah it crashed, but it’s baaack!