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Justin

December 8th, 2009
1:05 am

I truly beleive tomorrow something major will happen I think FW pulls something pretty good out of this situation.

Wayne in Utah

December 8th, 2009
1:06 am

RHR

How ya been?

wilymo

December 8th, 2009
1:07 am

I don’t know how Wagner’s price will help drive down Soriano unless the arbitration board really weighs career achievements. Wagner threw 15.2 innings last year with no saves, although good peripherals. There’s going to be a lot of weight on last year’s numbers. If you want to go on the past 2 years:

Wagner – 60.2 ip, ~ 2.20 era, 1-2 w-l, 78/18 k/bb, 27/34 saves, 6 holds
Soriano – 89.2 ip, ~2.80 era, 1-7 w-l, 118/36 k/bb, 30/35 saves, 6 holds

I sure don’t think Soriano will make less in arbitration

P'cola Brave

December 8th, 2009
1:08 am

What about Connor Jackson for 1st and Rivera for Left.

rupert

December 8th, 2009
1:08 am

Justin, I’m with you man. I have a lot of confidence in Wren. He always seems to make something happen. This could end up being a positive. If nothing else it gives him some options.

KC

December 8th, 2009
1:09 am

N8, yep… most people don’t realize that from June 28 until the final week of the season (a stretch of 80+ games – more than half a season), the Braves led the NL in runs scored.

People get too caught up in looking at the Braves ‘09 season offensive totals. The season totals are irrelevant. The Braves completely revamped this lineup mid-way through the season. There will be no horribly slumping Francoeur or KJ, or injured rookie CF’er in the lineup on opening day this year. This lineup, if they simply re-sign LaRoch, is already a hell of a lot better than most people give it credit for. And you’d have to think Heyward will be in the mix at some point as well.

LaRoche’s late-season tear had something to do with the second-half success, and I know he won’t do that over a full season, if we re-sign him. But if you were to add one more quality (low cost) right-handed bat with pop along WITH LaRoche… the lineup should be at least every bit as good as it was in the second half of last season. And with this pitching… I’d start saving now for my playoff tickets.

Wayne in Utah

December 8th, 2009
1:09 am

A lot can go right for a ballclub, and a lot can go wrong, obviously.

Chipper’s ability to come back to pre-2009 performance is going to be key for next year. I am not that confident he can do it. Depends on if he is coming to the end of his string, or if not having protection helped to do him in. Not sure he is going to get much more protection in 2010 though.

We can always hope and pray he comes around.

LOOGY

December 8th, 2009
1:10 am

Soriano to Twins for Cuddyer

bravito199

December 8th, 2009
1:10 am

Whats not to like about Swish.He’s versatile in every sense of the word he can play either corner outfield spot, 1B and he’s a switch hitter. He has good power and draws a ton of walks.

Tiger Woods

December 8th, 2009
1:11 am

Swisher is a doosh, and he really isn’t that good. He is solid but nothing special. Not worth bringing on if u ask me. Not an everyday player that would help us that much.

Jurrjens4NLCY {In Wren We Trust!}

December 8th, 2009
1:11 am

Can we start spreading a Ludwick for Soriano rumor?

P'cola Brave

December 8th, 2009
1:11 am

All we need Chipper to do is get his avg back up to 300. I think last year he felt a lot of pressure to deliver the power and was unable. I would much rather see his ‘08 approach where he just hit what was thrown and didn’t try to do to much.

chris

December 8th, 2009
1:12 am

justin- i’m with you on that, atleast by wednesday, the braves will make a move. with trying to trade soriano, johnson, and lowe, and getting atleast one bat, braves almost have to go hard at the meetings to get something done. alot of work needs to be done

Macon Braves (RIP)

December 8th, 2009
1:12 am

Plus, he just can’t pull the ladies like you can Tiger.

Justin

December 8th, 2009
1:13 am

LOOGY

December 8th, 2009
1:10 am
Soriano to Twins for Cuddyer

I’m sure they wouldnt mind paying 8 mill for a setup guy behind the 11.25 mill closer they have and theyd rather spend the 8 mill on Joe Mauer.

Andrew in PA

December 8th, 2009
1:13 am

I doubt the braves make a move this week,LOGGY the twins already pay a ton for nathen to close that wont happen

Wayne in Utah

December 8th, 2009
1:13 am

Justin

FW has been known to be a quick draw for sure. BUT, I am not holding my breath for tomorrow.

DOB should be cutting in with a boat load of posts about reactions any minute now.

Tiger Woods

December 8th, 2009
1:15 am

I just read that Ludwick’s wife is looking for a house in the Atlanta area, and that Soriano is headed to St. Louis on a plane……just sayin.

Jurrjens4NLCY {In Wren We Trust!}

December 8th, 2009
1:15 am

I heard that the Twin’s payroll should shoot to near 100M

N8

December 8th, 2009
1:15 am

Hey KC, just like old times, huh?

You and I leading the optimism front. :-)

kirkinga

December 8th, 2009
1:15 am

The_Superhoo, or he could be an expensive insurance policy for the two newest Braves who aren’t exactly safe bets. The bottom line is that it’s not as if the Braves aren’t a better team with him added to the pen if that is how it turns out. He could also turn out to be a valuable trading chip.

If the Braves already had the best pen in baseball and had no use for him then I would not be happy about his return. I think we still have to see how it plays out, but I see very little downside to having another great arm in the pen. Hate the payroll, but love the arm.

LOOGY

December 8th, 2009
1:16 am

Soriano for Ludwick…no brainer

Flatbill Kid

December 8th, 2009
1:16 am

N8, well the wiki page I read about MFIKY declining arb was false. I knew I shouldnt have trusted that site.

And dang, this blog is freaking out. FW didnt even break a sweat over this. He might have sh a brick, but didnt break a sweat.

chris

December 8th, 2009
1:17 am

DoB, should get some reactions soon…

wilymo

December 8th, 2009
1:17 am

I thought this article about not necessarily needing big power bats to be successful was interesting….It’d be cool to see the Braves go this route, but I guess they probably don’t have the team speed to make it work. http://ussmariner.com/2009/12/04/the-template/

Tiger Woods

December 8th, 2009
1:17 am

Macon I think that you just made the best point of all. Great work. The ladies like me what can I say?

ccrider

December 8th, 2009
1:17 am

KC: Wren indicated in an interview that the payroll could be flexible. Even with Soriano coming in at $7.5, the Braves could add say: Cameron $7 mil, Delgado $7 Mil and Troy Glaus $4. Glaus would share time with Delgado and rest Chipper. Cameron would be in the mix with McLouth, Diaz, Schafer and Heyward in the Outfield. Infante backs up Escobar and Prado, with Ross backing up McCann. Put that with Vazquez, Jurrjens, Hudson, KK and Hanson. A bullpen of Wagner, Saito, Soriano, Moylan, O’Flaherty, Medlen and Proctor. That would be a World Series contending team , with a payroll of $98 Million!

Jurrjens4NLCY {In Wren We Trust!}

December 8th, 2009
1:17 am

No one’s freaking out

LOOGY

December 8th, 2009
1:17 am

Soriano and Kelly Johnson for Ryan Ludwick if it comes down to it.

Chuck James was Solid Until the 6th!!!

December 8th, 2009
1:18 am

Ok, I need to chip in my two cents. No way does Saito setup over Soriano unless Soriano gets injured. First of all as Bobby proved, he loves Soriano as a closer, so why would he move in Saito over him at setup man? I think you will see Soriano, Wagner and Saito all with saves this year if Soriano stays. On the other hand I am confident in Wren and his abilities and I think he has a plan B intact for if this situation did occur. I am not worried. Again like somebody said earlier it’s not like Dan Kolb or Christ Reitsma (BANG! BOOM!) just accepted arbitration!

What’s everyone freaking out about? If Soriano stays and they simply added Nick Johnson and Xavier Nady I’d be thrilled with this team! LOOK AT THAT PITCHING!!!!! 3 runs a game will have you at atleast a %.525 Winning Percentage and 4 runs plus would be Huddy like #’s: 130-4 or whatever he is in his career with 4+ runs…

Wayne in Utah

December 8th, 2009
1:18 am

What does Tiger Woods and Wayne in Utah have in common?

A) Both of their wives can really swing a club.

B) Both drive like Ray Charles (I hit a deer, he hit a tree)

C) Both are incredible babe magnets

D) All of the above

:mrgreen:

Justin

December 8th, 2009
1:19 am

Wayne I hope DOB is about to post a few things I am getting tired and have to be at work 7 in the morning lol. If nothing else I do think Wren does something tomorrow even if its just KJ or Church he’s allways made a quick statement when something alot of people dont agree with happens.

Jurrjens4NLCY {In Wren We Trust!}

December 8th, 2009
1:20 am

Soriano and Kelly Johnson for Ryan Ludwick if it comes down to it.

Soriano, Kelly Johnson, Ryan Church, and cash for Ryan Ludwick and Skip Shoemaker

bravito199

December 8th, 2009
1:20 am

I would rather have Shisher than Ludwick. Ludwick has only one year where he produced like a star whereas Shisher has been consistent throughout his career plus i think the Cardinals would rather use that money on signing Holliday and a 3B

bravito199

December 8th, 2009
1:20 am

rupert

December 8th, 2009
1:21 am

pretty funny stuff Wayne

Chuck James was Solid Until the 6th!!!

December 8th, 2009
1:21 am

Now that I mention it look at past bullpens! Ouch! Who was setting up for Chris Reitsma and Dan Kolb? Chris Hammond? Remlinger? Ken Ray? Ray King? Would you rather a caliber of that elk and say Adam Dunn in the 4 spot?? I wouldn’t…. Also, it’s not Spring Training, let Wren complete his job before ripping him…

Wayne in Utah

December 8th, 2009
1:22 am

rupert

I wasn’t being funny, that was serious stuff!!

:evil:

Flatbill Kid

December 8th, 2009
1:23 am

ccrider, I like the ideas you have there. I like the idea of having Glaus and Delgado in the lineup but would they really be ok with platooning at first? And would we really have to pay 7 mil to get Delgado here?

Wayne in Utah

December 8th, 2009
1:23 am

I would choose “Swisher Sweets” over Ludwick too.

Tiger Woods

December 8th, 2009
1:23 am

Well Wayne, considering B & C are both correct I’m gonna have to go with D……. Final Answer.

P'cola Brave

December 8th, 2009
1:23 am

Lowe for Rivera, Soriano for Wigginton, KJ/Medlen or JO JO for Conor Jackson

McClouth CF Hudson SP Wags CL
Prado 2B Vaz SP Saito SU
Jones 3B Jurrgens SP Moylan
Rivera LF Hanson SP EOF
McCann C KK SP Medlen/Jo Jo
Escobar SS Kimbrel
Jackson 1B Logan/Acosta/Hyde
Diaz/Heyward/Church RF

Jurrjens4NLCY {In Wren We Trust!}

December 8th, 2009
1:24 am

My dog is viciously barking at a wall…

Do you think I have rats? Or has my dog gone senile at the age of 3?

… Or does she see a Ga – Ga – Ga -Ga GHOST!?

Andrew in P-tang

December 8th, 2009
1:25 am

i wouldnt mind at all keeping soriano if we traded lowe and found some sluggers..soriano is great in contract years! I think wren and cox will seriously consider keeping him.

Tiger Woods

December 8th, 2009
1:25 am

Why are people so high on Swisher?? Guy can’t even hit .250.

Wayne in Utah

December 8th, 2009
1:25 am

ccrider

I like all 3 of those guys, but I think it might be hard to ink Delgado and Glaus. I suspect Delgado will be back with the Mets. He probably has a Love Jones going on for Omar…..

rupert

December 8th, 2009
1:25 am

Wayne, have you ever taken a nap in a private street?

Jurrjens4NLCY {In Wren We Trust!}

December 8th, 2009
1:25 am

I would choose “Swisher Sweets” over Ludwick too.

You crazy!

LOOGY

December 8th, 2009
1:26 am

Best Bullpen We Had EVER had was 2002

LR Spooneybarger…ERA under 3
MR Ligtenburg….ERA Under 3
MR Hammond….ERA Under 1
MR Holmes….ERA. Under 2
SU Remlinger….ERA. Under 2
CL Smoltz……55 saves

Justin

December 8th, 2009
1:26 am

Tiger Woods

December 8th, 2009
1:25 am
Why are people so high on Swisher?? Guy can’t even hit .250.

Kinda like Adam Laroache? Aside from this year.

P'cola Brave

December 8th, 2009
1:26 am

Lowe for Rivera, Soriano for Wigginton, KJ/Medlen or JO JO for Conor Jackson

McClouth CF
Prado 2B
Jones 3B
Rivera LF
McCann C
Escobar SS
Jackson 1B
Diaz/Heyward/Church RF

SP
Hudson
Vaz
Jurrgens
Hanson
KK

Bullpen
Wags
Saito
moylan
EOF
medlen/jo jo
kimbrel/ logan/acosta/ hyde

bench
infante
ross
wigginton
heyward
church

Andrew in P-tang

December 8th, 2009
1:26 am

Soriano for Wigginton, i hope thats a joke,have you seen Ty’s stats last year,he’s trash.

Cheetah Woods

December 8th, 2009
1:27 am

Lets go get EL Caballo or Derrick Lee.

Wayne in Utah

December 8th, 2009
1:28 am

Tiger Woods:

Yes, D IS the correct answer. Your prize is a $500 gift certificate from Techniglass!

rupert

Actually, I am napping right now on a private street…why would you ask?

Nate from NCState

December 8th, 2009
1:28 am

Guys, Jackson is NOT coming to the Braves. Nick Swisher is the last thing we need on this team. I just don’t get some of these ideas.

I mean really. We are getting excited about Connor Jackson and Nick Swisher? Mike Cameron even? Troy Glaus? I think I even saw Gary, I don’t want to play unless I start, Sheffield. Really?

Why don’t we just give it a few days and see what happens.

TheAntiMe

December 8th, 2009
1:29 am

I’m not crazy about Swisher either. He is versatile but I think he is overated. I think Frank Wren can and will do better than Swish.

P'cola Brave

December 8th, 2009
1:29 am

His ‘09 was bad but ‘06-’08 he was solid. Thats why I put him as a bench/role guy

Chuck James was Solid Until the 6th!!!

December 8th, 2009
1:29 am

I’m not high on Swisher, his #’s are inflated from playing at that cheap stadium. Chipper, LaRoche, McCann and McLouth would all hit 30 HR’s at Yankee Stadium and Citizens Bank Park…. I got respect for Ryan Howard’s HR’s and %80 of Utley’s and about %70 of Werth’s the rest are just jokes… Swisher I predict would bat around .230 with 20 HR’s and 70 RBI’s at Turner Field with a full seasons AB’s…

Tiger Woods

December 8th, 2009
1:29 am

Agree Andrew. Get somebody for him, but don’t just trade him to trade him.

LOOGY

December 8th, 2009
1:30 am

Mike Cameron>Nick Swisher

Chuck James was Solid Until the 6th!!!

December 8th, 2009
1:30 am

Adam LaRoche is far more productive and consistent then Swisher, predominantly in the 2nd half and has proven himself to be a clutch player in that regard as well. Defensively LaRoche plays his position 8932409x better as well….

Mixxo

December 8th, 2009
1:30 am

MFIKY is staying? Cool! That 6 or 7 blown saves right there.

Yay!

rupert

December 8th, 2009
1:31 am

Tiger Woods sleeps in the street as well.

Nate from NCState

December 8th, 2009
1:31 am

After saying that I would be happy if the Braves signed Cameron because of his defensive ability and his offensive power. But I’m certainly not going to shutdown a blog over it. Know what I mean?

Wayne in Utah

December 8th, 2009
1:32 am

Justin

It’s LaRoche, not Laroache…..not that it matters, but the latter spelling looks like a dirty insect.

Tiger Woods

Shame on you. Don’t you know that batting average is WAY overrated. It’s OBP and OPS and fangraphs and winshares and floopy WHIPS and stuff like that.

Andruw Jones got a lot of mileage out of a .250 average during several years.

Chop Chop

December 8th, 2009
1:32 am

Mike Cameron<Nursing Home<Nick Swisher

That's about all I've got. I don't want either guy.

Justin

December 8th, 2009
1:32 am

Chuck James was Solid Until the 6th!!!

December 8th, 2009
1:29 am
I’m not high on Swisher, his #’s are inflated from playing at that cheap stadium. Chipper, LaRoche, McCann and McLouth would all hit 30 HR’s at Yankee Stadium and Citizens Bank Park…. I got respect for Ryan Howard’s HR’s and %80 of Utley’s and about %70 of Werth’s the rest are just jokes… Swisher I predict would bat around .230 with 20 HR’s and 70 RBI’s at Turner Field with a full seasons AB’s…

Swisher hit 21 of his 29 homers away from Yankee stadium last year try again.

Justin

December 8th, 2009
1:33 am

In fact all of Swishers number are higher on the road except OBP.

Andrew in P-tang

December 8th, 2009
1:33 am

Soriano has way more value on the braves then a bench player. You just dont give away good players like that for garbage.

P’cola Brave

December 8th, 2009
1:29 am
His ‘09 was bad but ‘06-’08 he was solid. Thats why I put him as a bench/role guy
Yeah because any righty with semi decent pop can hit 20 in houston

Flatbill Kid

December 8th, 2009
1:34 am

Cheetah Woods, my friend we dont get Lee or Lee because of the payroll situation my friend. Gotta get Lowe shipped out presumably along with MFIKY to be able to have some payroll room to work with on a bat.

rupert

December 8th, 2009
1:34 am

I hear you Nate and I agree on Cameran. He would be a good fit for the stated reasons, but nothing to go crazy over. Most of the guys that are talked about on here are like that. Guys that are essentially gap fillers, but the right guy at the right price could make a difference next year. Think of the difference if the braves had spent a little more and gotten Abreu over Anderson.

Flatbill Kid

December 8th, 2009
1:34 am

and yes I called you my friend one too many times.

Bravoman

December 8th, 2009
1:34 am

Ladies…Gentlemen,

Have we considered the ultimate worse part about this ordeal? What if Soriano really wants to be here and won’t accept being dealt? What is to be done then…I’ll be pissed if he is still around come Spring

Justin

December 8th, 2009
1:35 am

Avg home .226
Away .268

Slug home .394
.585

quite a bit of difference

bravito199

December 8th, 2009
1:36 am

Swisher hit 21 of his 29 hrs on the road so his numbers are not inflated by Stankee Stadium

Jeff R

December 8th, 2009
1:36 am

All right, I’ll begin eating my Braves’ road cap. Soriano is a fool. He possibly gets more money on a one-year deal but he’ll be playing second fiddle to Wagner and Saito. How in the world does that improve his chances for a contract in 2010?

As to Soriano’s affect on the Braves’ payroll, can’t help but hurt. I think it means Wren really hasto move Lowe or Vazquez, and perhaps for less than he could have gotten had Soriano not stuck around. It’s got to impact Wren’s budget for an power bat and a first baseman too.

Until Wren can pare down the payroll by trading Soriano (with his permission, of course), or moving other players, it makes the budget a lot tighter.

Flatbill Kid

December 8th, 2009
1:36 am

Abreu would not have came to ATL for the same price as he went to the Angels for last year because they were contenders then and we werent.

bravito199

December 8th, 2009
1:37 am

My Bad Justin you beat me to it

TheAntiMe

December 8th, 2009
1:37 am

Tiger Woods sleeps in the street as well.

lol – Not only that, rupert, Tiger will now be purchasing his auto insurance from a smooth-talking lizard. Yikes!
:P

CharlieAlphaBravo

December 8th, 2009
1:37 am

Okay, so now maybe Lowe and Soriano for Youkilis or a comparable slugger??

Macon Braves (RIP)

December 8th, 2009
1:37 am

With the kind of money you’ve got Tiger, heck, even a straight guy like me might could learn to like you… :lol:

Actually, now that I think about it. Your probably about to be about half as rich as you are now, so maybe not… :smile:

Justin

December 8th, 2009
1:38 am

Flatbill Kid

December 8th, 2009
1:34 am
Cheetah Woods, my friend we dont get Lee or Lee because of the payroll situation my friend. Gotta get Lowe shipped out presumably along with MFIKY to be able to have some payroll room to work with on a bat.

Carlos lee 19 mill to braves for Soriano 8 mill and Lowe 15 mill 23 mill all together so the braves eat 4 mill make it even get some low level guys from Houston Valverde just turned down arb so the Stros need a closer and they allways need a starter.

Dave in PA

December 8th, 2009
1:38 am

DOB… We NEED you. I hope Wren didn’t get angry and take it out on DOB!

Anyways I kind of like the idea of Lowe and Soriano for Carlos Lee. Eat the 4 mil of Lowe’s contract to make the money even. Houston gets a solid 2 or 3 starter and a very good closer, (two things they want) and Atlanta gets there big bat in LF.

That would put us at budget, and with KJ and Church being non-tendered that gives us roughly 5 million? I think Liberty media can pony up 3 more mil in Bobby’s last year for Laroche, and I think we are set. Only problem I see is the injury risks of the elder Wagner and Saito. Thoughts?

Tiger Woods

December 8th, 2009
1:38 am

I can’t wait till tomorrows press conference to introduce Ludwick as the new left fielder of the Atlanta Braves. WOOOOO!!!!!!

Wayne in Utah

December 8th, 2009
1:39 am

In the end, I will LOVE whomever Frank Wren acquires for our Atlanta Braves. I will pull for these players, just like they were my sons.

Whether it be Jason Bay or Marlon Byrd. I will find the good in that player, and hope he has a career year for us.

It is interesting to blog about all the possibilities, but in the end, we just have to sit and wait…….

My heart has been broken (well, maybe just bruised) MANY times when we have dealt players or prospects I was fond of. Two years ago, I was hoping that Lillibridge would reach his hitting potential, but alas, he was sent packing.

This winter, as we wait on FW to pull the trigger, I have this fear that FW is going to deal Kris “My Little Pony” Medlen, and break my heart again. Or worse, Logan Schafer! AAARRRRGGHHHH!!!

But just like JV did last year, whoever comes back to us will most probably help a lot.

Dang I love the hot stove!!

rupert

December 8th, 2009
1:39 am

Tiger is going to need to save that 15% on auto insurance to help pay off his wife, who yields a big stick in negotiations from what I hear.

bravito199

December 8th, 2009
1:40 am

Look im not particularly high on Swisher either but he’s one of the better options out there. Ohh and i forgot to mention this but Washington’s bullpen was awful last year so im pretty sure we could get Willingham for Soriano also, but once again I would rather have Swisher

Chuck James was Solid Until the 6th!!!

December 8th, 2009
1:40 am

Justin

Ok, Swisher was protected by 8 All-Star players, most future HOF’ers. Put him on the Nationals, Mets, Reds, Cubs, A’s, Indians, Royals, Pirates, Diamondbacks, Padres or Giants….. Does he perform at even that clip of .250 and 29 HR’s?? Answer, NO! He would hit around .220 as he did in Chicago with around 20 HR’s as I previously posted. Because he would not see pitches. If you gave Chipper or McCann a seasons worth of the pitches he saw this year you’re talking .3300 with 40+ HR type #’s… So, Justin, you try again with your “Lets get Nick Swisher cause he would help this team!!” defense…… Try again…

Andrew in P-tang

December 8th, 2009
1:40 am

lowe and soriano for alfonso soriano

Andrew in PA

December 8th, 2009
1:41 am

Dave in PA, where do you live in PA?

Justin

December 8th, 2009
1:42 am

I never said to sign him I was just informing you that you were WRONG!

Justin

December 8th, 2009
1:43 am

Show me where I said to trade for him.

Flatbill Kid

December 8th, 2009
1:43 am

Justin,
Lee signed a 6 year $100 mil contract in 2006. Salary about 17 mil a year. Hey if that works then I am all for it. I doubt it goes down without a minor leaguer or two from us.

Tiger Woods

December 8th, 2009
1:43 am

Dave if the Stros would do that, I would say pull the trigger now. Lee is the man. Agree on the risks of oldness, but Lee is def a difference maker and puts up huge numbers. 19 mill for him may be a bit high but thats the kind of bat we need in this lineup.

Chuck James was Solid Until the 6th!!!

December 8th, 2009
1:44 am

Flatball Kid

It actually came out from reliable sources ATL was Abreu’s 1rst choice (Other than NY I suppose) but they came up about $3 million short on his services which ultimately in my opinion was the difference between playoffs at The Ted last year and no playoffs….

N8

December 8th, 2009
1:44 am

Andrew in P-tang, I thought about that a while ago, (acquiring Alphonso Soriano), but dude has fallen so far in last 2 or 3 years. I have zero interest in being stuck with that contract. Guy is owed 18 million per year through 2014. Plus he has a full no trade clause.

No thanks. I’d gamble on Carlos Lee before A. Soriano.

Justin

December 8th, 2009
1:45 am

his 2010 salary is 19 mill just to clarify I think his contract is backloaded.

keylargo

December 8th, 2009
1:45 am

I envy the position Mike Gonzalez is in. With two of the top three closers in the draft already committed to one team, he stands to get a dream deal with that shark of an agent playing the other teams in need of a closer against one another.

Wayne in Utah

December 8th, 2009
1:45 am

Andrew

Alfonso has a pretty hefty salary, but that deal would be interesting for sure.

Well, I am getting sleepy (where did that come from???), so I am going to try to sleep. I guess I will have to catch all DOB’s reaction posts on the morrow!

G’nite folk!

Bobby's Cox

December 8th, 2009
1:45 am

Wayne,

You and your conservative ass would love to know that it’s about 37 degrees (yes, fahrenheit) here in SoCal right now. It snowed in our mountains today, but it’s been quite chilly the last few weeks, and our last 2 summers have been really mild.

Not to say it’s “global warming” or whatever. Just saying. Heard some things that the reason why it’s so cold is because the ice caps are melting at such an alarming rate that it’s putting ice molecules into the air. Not sure if that’s true or not, or if any of this stuff is, but if we could create and reuse clean energy, why not? If anything it will replace jobs we sent overseas and get us Americans back to being innovative.

By the way, you’d get along so well with my family.

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