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nick
December 1st, 2009
9:12 pm
I dont hate Cameron but I sure hope we have our sights set a little higher than a career .250 hitter that strikes out at least 150 times a year. His defense is exceptional though. McLouths range isnt a big of a scare as his arm is. Disappointed in his arm and that is what makes him a LFer.
nolie
December 1st, 2009
9:13 pm
An OF of McLouth, Cameron, and Heyward, huh? That causes some bloggers to gush? Somehow, a 50-HR outfield doesn’t fill me with giddiness. Boys and girls, counting on massive rookie contributions from Jason Heyward is just not a good Plan A. Scoots
you know what they are saying about the Rays proving how IMPORTANT defense is and that OF would make up for it’s lack of offensive power and we would be winners. I love it when a plan comes together
nolie
December 1st, 2009
9:15 pm
Petey first came back his ERA was higher than my age. RHR
OMG, THAT high?
P'cola Brave
December 1st, 2009
9:15 pm
Everyone may as well give up on a holliday, bay, or A. Gonzalez not gonna happen. An addition of Cameron and his 25 HR would be a tremendous upgrade.
joerochester
December 1st, 2009
9:17 pm
Anyway you look at it we’re in a Catch 22. We aren’t going to get Laroche on a multi-year deal because we’re waiting for Freeman. We aren’t going to trade for a big 1B because we’re waiting on Freeman. The outfield FA class sucks. We need a good trade.
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 1st, 2009
9:17 pm
I’m sitting downstairs and I’m thinking… “Oh my gosh, what if the Braves win the World Series?”
How cool would that be??
nolie
December 1st, 2009
9:20 pm
How cool would that be?
pretty dang cool
Steve from OH
December 1st, 2009
9:21 pm
I dont hate Cameron but I sure hope we have our sights set a little higher than a career .250 hitter that strikes out at least 150 times a year.
So what? His OBP is at least average, and he has above-average pop, even with the low BA. And like you said, he plays above-average D in CF, and along with moving Nate to LF, will improve our OF defense tremendously in two spots. That’s a pretty big impact.
Not the middle-of-the-order masher we need, certainly, but a useful player? Yup.
Dawg
December 1st, 2009
9:22 pm
Cameron would improve our team tremendously. I hope for a player like Adrian Gonzalas but Cameron would improve our defense, our speed, and our power. That is a lot to say about one player.
This time of the year is finally here. It is great that we can stop talking about BBQ, music and Barbaro C and actually discuss the Braves!
Efrim
December 1st, 2009
9:23 pm
Frank’s explanation of the LaRoche situation was quite clear as to why. Doesn’t mean he won’t be courted if FW’s other deals don’t include a first sacker.
I agree, and I understand completely why they went the route of not offering. I just would of liked the extra pick.
ncscoots
December 1st, 2009
9:24 pm
An addition of Cameron and his 25 HR would be a tremendous upgrade.
Bro, I’ll bet you the remainder of your mortgage that Cameron won’t hit 25, playing 82 at Turner. And you guys call getting Holliday a pipe dream, LOL? Let’s get a grip here.
joerochester
December 1st, 2009
9:26 pm
Getting Wagner would worry me coming off of the injury, only because of the way Bobby uses his bullpen. If Wagner was strictly a closer, then I think it would be a great deal. The market is saturated with relievers this year, so I see us getting some good talent even if we lose Soriano and Gonzalez.
Efrim
December 1st, 2009
9:26 pm
A double-handful of picks isn’t really much better than the normal count, if you’re going to pay slot (or less) to all of them.
Yeah, I don’t expect them to go above slot. But it’s still nice to have those extra picks given that our system isn’t as strong as it used to be, and will get worse once Heyward is up for good.
Don
December 1st, 2009
9:29 pm
Crime Dog should be in the Hall. Best first baseman Braves ever had.
joerochester
December 1st, 2009
9:30 pm
Let’s be honest: Cameron would be a huge upgrade over Anderson in defense and offense. Factor him in with a 25+ HR 1B and we could get six or seven more wins than this past season. Enough to get us in the playoffs, I would bet.
Steve from OH
December 1st, 2009
9:31 pm
Factor him in with a 25+ HR 1B and we could get six or seven more wins than this past season
That may be a touch optimistic…
ncscoots
December 1st, 2009
9:32 pm
Efrim, oh yes, I agree that having the extra picks is beneficial, no doubt. Even if the extras only net some organizational players, adding depth and trade fodder on the farm is a good thing.
nolie
December 1st, 2009
9:32 pm
That may be a touch optimistic Steve
might be
P'cola Brave
December 1st, 2009
9:34 pm
Cameron’s homerun total would have led the Braves this year outside of Laroche. If you think we dont need that your crazy. No hes not a number 4 hitter everyone thinks we’re getting but hes consistent and would fit nice around the 6 hole.
Wayne in Utah
December 1st, 2009
9:38 pm
Moylan had between 7-10 bad outings. Another 7 with 1 run allowed in an inning or more (looks bad on an individual game basis, but nobody goes the whole season at 0.00).
That leaves 70 appearances with NO earned runs out of 87 appearances.
The fact he started off with the first 5 runners faced scoring (plus the inherited runners allowed) kind skewed his numbers early on.
And some on here thought he was the second coming of satan himself.
brian
December 1st, 2009
9:39 pm
the Braves better take advantage of the extra picks this coming draft and not get cheap when it comes to drafting players.
David O'Brien
December 1st, 2009
9:40 pm
I dont hate Cameron but I sure hope we have our sights set a little higher than a career .250 hitter that strikes out at least 150 times a year — NIck
I guess you can look at his career average and strikeout totals if your glass if half-empty, or if it’s half-full you can look at his respectable .340 career OBP and the fact that over the past four seasons he’s averaged 33 doubles, 23 homers and 17 stolen bases. How many Braves can say that?.
nolie
December 1st, 2009
9:41 pm
actually Cameron is very close to being another McLouth. BA,OBP,S% all are within afew points of each other. If you are happy with Louth, you will likely be ok with Cameron. If you aren’t a Nate fan, then you likely won’t be a Cameron fan in the long run either.
nick
December 1st, 2009
9:41 pm
How much for Cameron???? 1/yr $6mil.??
Efrim
December 1st, 2009
9:41 pm
Not the middle-of-the-order masher we need, certainly, but a useful player? Yup.
I agree. I think he’d be a fine addition. I’d rather a masher, of course, but he wouldn’t be a bad option.
ncscoots
December 1st, 2009
9:42 pm
No hes not a number 4 hitter everyone thinks we’re getting but hes consistent and would fit nice around the 6 hole.
So, your plan to improve the team is to add another 6- or 7-hole hitter to a squad that already has too many of them? Why, it’s so brilliant I should have thought of it myself, LOL.
Hey, listen, if the Braves can’t move the elephant out of the room and a Cameron-type player is what they can do, then so be it. Fortune has been known to smile on even less deserving scenarios. Just, let’s not confuse duct tape and baling wire with fine Corinthian leather, shall we?
Wayne in Utah
December 1st, 2009
9:42 pm
I would figure a guy like Cameron for 20-25 HR’s. Depends on how many games he plays.
I can see it now. We offer Adam arbitrtion, he accepts, and gets 8.5 million for 2010. At the beginning of June, he is hitting .230 w/ about 5 HR’s. He would be crucified on the ole blog.
Wayne in Utah
December 1st, 2009
9:44 pm
OK scoots, your going WAY too far. I happen to be damned partial to duct tape!
P'cola Brave
December 1st, 2009
9:44 pm
ncscoots,
Tell me who you would pick up to fix our problems. Thats realistic?
nolie
December 1st, 2009
9:46 pm
can see it now. We offer Adam arbitrtion, he accepts Wayne
wake up buddy, they already refused to offer Adam arb. they have pretty much hinted that they did not want to pay him that much. They can still negotiate with him for a while
joerochester
December 1st, 2009
9:46 pm
A lot of people overlook that Yuni was also batting in the 2 spot in most of the first half of the season. Once they moved him down in the order he became one of the best hitters with RISP. Sure he’s not a big HR guy now, but I could see him hitting 20HR a year.
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 1st, 2009
9:47 pm
I love the Mike Cameron idea…
Steve from OH
December 1st, 2009
9:47 pm
Efrim–gimme both, LOL!
STEELY DAN MAN
December 1st, 2009
9:47 pm
Pretty decent line-up would be :
– Diaz – RF
1) – McLouth – LF
2) – DeRosa – 1B
3) – Chipper – 3B
4) – Cameron – CF
5) – McCann – C
6) – Escobar – SS
7) – Prado – 2B
I could live w/ that everyday ….. all day ….. even sundays !!!!!!!!
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nolie
December 1st, 2009
9:49 pm
why in the world would you move Prado out of the second slot for DeRo? makes no sense to me
Wayne in Utah
December 1st, 2009
9:50 pm
nolie
I was just commenting to the fickleness of the novice blogger….I caught the news on Adam.
As a side note, there were some on here that were critical of McLouth. From a select few, we would never hear the end of it if the Braves had Cameron and McLouth in the OF on opening day.
scoots
To be honest, I still hold out hope that we pull a bit of a blockbuster trade to get that hitter we would all say “WOW, now that’s an upgrade!”
joerochester
December 1st, 2009
9:50 pm
Derosa doesn’t have enough power to be a productive 1B. He’s stricly a utility player.
nolie
December 1st, 2009
9:52 pm
was just commenting to the fickleness of the novice blogger Wayne
sorry i missed your tongue stuck firmly in your cheek
Wayne in Utah
December 1st, 2009
9:53 pm
scoots
Nobody saw the Jurrjens or McLouth deals coming. We can always hope.
Most folks though, before the act happens, are realists.
McFann O
December 1st, 2009
9:54 pm
DOB over the past four seasons he’s averaged 33 doubles, 23 homers, and 17 stolen bases. How many Braves can say that?
BMac’s averaged 37 doubles, 22 homers, and 3 SB over the past four seasons, does that count?
Wayne in Utah
December 1st, 2009
9:54 pm
no worries nolie…..
nick
December 1st, 2009
9:55 pm
My DREAM offseaon would be: Unload ALL of Lowes contract and replace that money. with 4yr/60mil. with an option for Jason Bay. Nick Johnson 1yr/6mil with option. Octavio Dotel 1yr/4mil with option. Billy Wagner 1yr/7mil with option. Keeps us under $100 mil.
Good strikeout relievers and good OBP hitters.
Wayne in Utah
December 1st, 2009
9:55 pm
McFann
I want to see those SB numbers creeping up!!!
P'cola Brave
December 1st, 2009
9:57 pm
Wayne,
Your correct on the McClouth thing. Never had a clue it was coming. But I just don’t see us making a huge move. I just don’t think that anyone huge is available on the trade market. But then again who really knows what will happen.
ncscoots
December 1st, 2009
9:58 pm
Tell me who you would pick up to fix our problems. Thats realistic?
Hey, you either haven’t been here long or don’t read my posts (I assume the latter is more likely, LOL). I don’t do that kind of thing, because “realistic” is just a blogger notion. Only Wren knows who might be available, who might fit, what other moves might impact the choice of this or that player, the state of the farm and which pieces are keepers and which are tradeable, how those pieces fit into different trade scenarios, how he’ll manage his money on free agency, and, oh, another gazillion tidbits that would determine who can “fix our problems” (they aren’t “our” problems, since we aren’t on the team or in the org, but, I know what you mean).
So, my answer is, I don’t have a particular player or players in mind. Or whether even the type of player I personally think is necessary can be had at any price. I…don’t…know, because I don’t have access to enough information to offer a considered opinion.
So, for future reference, I don’t propose trades or FA signings, post imaginary lineups, offer season projections on March 1st, stuff like that. Just not my kind of thing.
Wayne in Utah
December 1st, 2009
9:59 pm
nick
Nick Johnson is scary as heck, what with that injury history.
I too would love to see a Holliday/Bay rumor (Holliday being my first choice), but I too am a realist.
Upton maybe?
Wild Azz Rumor Central: Escobar, Medlen, Rohrbough and Milligan for Kemp and Furcal?
Who would buy into that one?
Or, Escobar and Freeman for Youk???
nolie
December 1st, 2009
10:00 pm
So, for future reference, I don’t propose trades or FA signings, post imaginary lineups, offer season projections on March 1st, stuff like that. Just not my kind of thing. Scoots
cluck cluck
edward r murrow
December 1st, 2009
10:00 pm
i thought we were going to hear a decision on kelly johnson and ryan church today but apparently that’s a dec 12 deadline. what’s the difference in situations there? between johnson and church, on one hand, and the 4 today (gonzo, soriano, la roche, g.a.)? isnt this about whether or not they’re gonna be offered arb?
joerochester
December 1st, 2009
10:01 pm
Trade Javier and Lowe and move Medlen into the 5th spot, then use the money to sign big.
klaus
December 1st, 2009
10:06 pm
ncscoots best post on the blog re: Cameron and Corinthian leather!
Made me chuckle!
We need to aim much higher but so far we are shopping Walmart hard.
I hope Wren surprises the low ballers on this and every other ATL blog.
bravefaninok
December 1st, 2009
10:10 pm
Trade Javier and Lowe and move Medlen into the 5th spot, then use the money to sign big.
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I like Medlen a bunch but that is 30+ wins your trading away…….Very bad Idea.
P'cola Brave
December 1st, 2009
10:11 pm
Sorry to sadden everyone but McCann will be the clean up hitter come opening day.
ncscoots
December 1st, 2009
10:13 pm
Yeah, nolie, I know, I’m a bad blogger, LOL. I don’t contribute enough to the hooraw.
Ronald Millsaps
December 1st, 2009
10:14 pm
Let’s forget about Billy Wagner and Mike Cameron….once and for all.
Put Kelly Johnson in left, Nate McLouth in center, and Matt Diaz in right. Perhaps we even could use Diaz at first.
Why is this team so against the idea of pursuing Adam LaRoche? Probably the same reason it was so against pursuing John Smoltz? Folks, this kind of thinking is STUPID!
LaRoche probably would return and would do so at a reasonable price. Furthermore, his offense is awesome, and so is his defense. He fits this team perfectly chemistry-wise and is cool in the clutch. I’d really hate to see him go.
I hate to see my favorite team do stupid things, and not pursuing LaRoche is stupid. There’s no better adjective for the action.
If we don’t, at least set your sights high, and try to get Adrian Gonzalez. Jeff Schultz had a more-than-reasonable point on this one.
Bobby Cox
December 1st, 2009
10:14 pm
Why’d I ever give lineup making authority to P’cola Brave?
Ronald Millsaps
December 1st, 2009
10:16 pm
Fred McGriff should be in the Hall of Fame, yes, but the best first baseman we’ve ever had? That statement’s debatable, highly debatable. I’m biased against him because of his defense, which wasn’t on the level of a Sid Bream/Brian Hunter/LaRoche/Andres Galarraga, etc..
Dale Murphy should be in the Hall of Fame before McGriff.
McFann O
December 1st, 2009
10:16 pm
Wayne–
Oh, I know! Such a low number…But if it’s any consolation, he’s also AVG’d 0 CS over that same time-span.
(Well, .5 CS to be exact…but we’re not being exact, are we?)
P’cola Brave–
Aw, shucks! Who told you?
P'cola Brave
December 1st, 2009
10:17 pm
The downfall for Laroche is he wants multi year contract. The don’t want to block freeman. thats the whole problem with him. I would love to have Laroche back but the hype surrounding Freeman says otherwise.
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 1st, 2009
10:17 pm
Nobody saw the Jurrjens or McLouth deals coming.
I did
joerochester
December 1st, 2009
10:18 pm
I hope Lowe goes. He looked real good opening day. He was hot and cold this past season, though. Ryan Howard couldn’t hit his sinker for the life of him.
dmack2027
December 1st, 2009
10:19 pm
Couple of things re: Wren’s comments about kicking the tires. Won’t the braves have to hold off on getting involved with a reliever (ie. Wagner) to make sure Gonzo and Sori do not accept arbitration. If true, this means he will be focusing on a position player.
DOB, I have one question. Say the Braves were able to unload Lowe. How much do you think Javy would command per year if the Braves were to extend him. He is making almost 12 million now. I would bet he would not take a pay cut. So, if you unload Lowe’s salary, then extend Vazquez, how much money are you really saving? Plus, historically Lowe has better numbers than Javy.
Since the finances might be close to a wash, I would rather trade Javy and pick up some talent than unload Lowe for a player like Corey Hart.
keylargo
December 1st, 2009
10:19 pm
keylargo
November 30th, 2009
10:55 am
Tiger hit and damaged a fire hydrant, which are on the public right of way. That is enough to give the Police cause to question him.
This was my first statement – that even though the roads were private, the Public Utilities were installed on a Utility Easement which Public Utilities must have to install their lines.
rtrafford
November 30th, 2009
11:49 am
On Tiger….he hit a hydrant, but the system was located inside a private community on private grounds, beside a private road. The only entity with a beef towards Tiger in terms of destruction of property if the homeowner association, not the fire department or police department or highway patrol, or anyone else.
Here you are saying that ALL the land is private and that only the Homeowners Ass. has cause against Tiger. NOT the Fire Department, Police Department, Highway Patrol or anyone.
Funny, the Florida Highway Patrol issued him a ticket today that may cause Tiger to pay $165 for reckless driving and $450 for the Fire Hydrant. And if they expect him to pay for the Fire Hydrant, that means that it was on a Public Right of Way or Utility Easement.
keylargo
November 30th, 2009
1:34 pm
On Tiger….he hit a hydrant, but the system was located inside a private community on private grounds, beside a private road. rtrafford
Not correct.
The Utility easement is about 20 feet of land on each side of the road. Unless the Homeowners Association has an Electricity Generator, Water Purification/Drinking System, Sewage Treatment Plant, Satellite TV, and Natural Gas Plant these Utilities are supplied by Public Utilities. They are routed down the Public Utility Easement which is parallel to the road on each side.
Tiger ran off the road, hit and damaged a Publically owned Fire Hydrant and is thus subject to damages and Traffic violations
Here I am telling you that Tiger is subject to damages (to the Fire Hydrant) and traffic violations (reckless driving by the FHP). He was charged with both today.
rtrafford
November 30th, 2009
6:41 pm
Tiger ran off the road, hit and damaged a Publically owned Fire Hydrant and is thus subject to damages and Traffic violations. KeyLargo
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The community Tiger lives in is a private community. They own the roads and pay to maintain them. they are responsible for the maintenance of the utilities within their own property. It’s their land, commonly owned by each of the homeowners based upon their ownership percentage of the stock in the association.
Think I’m wrong? Try driving in. If it’s a public right of way they may take your name and information, but they cannot deny you access. Bet you don’t get in
You are right, I can not get in and the roads are private. But the Utilities are not. That is why they have a Utility Easement. It has nothing to do with Public access but means the Public Utilities can come in.
And if the Utilities were Private, the FHP would not have cited him for damage to Public Property (Fire Hydrant) on Public Land (Utility Easement)!
He (rtrafford) is saying that the Public Utility companies are not allowed into Gated Subdivisions. KeyLargo
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No, I’m not saying that at all. I’m saying that the roads are private, the land is private, and in the end the citation was issued by the Florida Highway Patrol, not the local Orange County Sheriff who had no jurisdiction in the matter. Why? It’s private property. rtrafford
Oh, the FHP can issue citations on Private Property now?
It is a very common practice to deed the streets back to the city or county if the traffic is not to be restricted. This is a cost saving method for developers of subdivisions that are not gated. If they are a private, gated community, then the Homeowners are responsible for paving and maintaining the streets, which has absolutely nothing to do with the utility companies The goal is to keep out undesirable people, not water and electric.
November 30th, 2009
6:46 pm
On Tiger, to put it another way:
The entire neighborhood is the equivalent of your private yard, only thaqt it is owned and maintained by a collective body of owners. Their “right of way easement” is out on the perimeter of the entire property of the association, and all within those limits are the responsibility of the homeowners association.
Tiger wrecked his car on “private property”, not on a public road.
If he wrecked on private property, he would not have been cited by the FHP.
keylargo
November 30th, 2009
7:28 pm
The community Tiger lives in is a private community. They own the roads and pay to maintain them. they are responsible for the maintenance of the utilities within their own property. rtrafford
Do you think Florida Power brings the power to the gate and says “do what you want with this”? No, they come in and run the power down the street and into each house and stop it at the meter. Then they come back every month and read the meter. It has NOTHING to do with the Homeowner Ass.
Same way with the water. They run a main in and branch it off to each house with a meter which they come each month and read.
And the sewer comes out of each house to the main line in the front yard and then out to the sewage treatment plant.
The ONLY way it would work like you are saying is if the Homeowners’ Association OWNED all the Power Generating Equipment, the water company, the sewage treatment plant, and the cable TV equipment.
nick
December 1st, 2009
10:20 pm
I could see a Lowe and Escobar to Boston rumor.
McFann O
December 1st, 2009
10:22 pm
JJ4NLCY I did
Well there ya go.
brent a.
December 1st, 2009
10:37 pm
I still love how
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brent a.
December 1st, 2009
10:40 pm
I wonder if Tiger Woods will read all of keylargo’s 10:19?
ryan c
December 1st, 2009
10:41 pm
the braves should be in the mix for gary sheffield. the guy can still swing the bat and would be a great bench player/spot-starter to stick in left. if the braves can shake lowe’s salary and assuming the braves let kj and church walk, they would have about 29-33 million to sign some mighty good offense without raising payroll.
signing this whole group could be possible with that kind of money:
1.troy glaus- 1/7.5 (probably wants to prove he’s healthy so he would probably be ok with a one year deal)
2. xavier nady-2/10
3. gary sheffield-1/2.5
4. billy wagner- 2/13
5. saito-2/11
roster and depth would be insane. it’s the boston approach. sign as many bargains as you can, throw them against the wall, see which ones stick.
what a way for bobby to go out! could you imagine that roster?
rotation: vazquez, hudson, jurrjens, hanson, kawakami
pen: wagner, saito, moylan, o’flaherty, medlen, proctor?/abreu?, valdez
lineup:
1.mclouth
2.prado
3.chipper
4.glaus
5.mccann
6.nady/heyward (still think j-hey could benefit from a platoon at first to adjust to the major league lifestyle)
7. escobar
8. diaz
bench: sheffield, nady/heyward, infante, ross, canizares?
Wayne in Utah
December 1st, 2009
10:43 pm
So Jurrjens, what will be the next move? Pray tell….
will36206
December 1st, 2009
10:45 pm
Just waiting til FW announces the signing of Carlos Delgado to a one year incentive laden deal…
P. W. Hjort
December 1st, 2009
10:57 pm
Just waiting til FW announces the signing of Carlos Delgado to a one year incentive laden deal…
I’d be OK with that.
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 1st, 2009
10:59 pm
Oh poop, I meant to change my name to something humorous
Thanks for pointing that out McFann
Steve from OH
December 1st, 2009
11:01 pm
Just waiting til FW announces the signing of Carlos Delgado to a one year incentive laden deal…
Wouldn’t be a bad move.
TnBrian
December 1st, 2009
11:01 pm
I honestly thought I’d never see the day when Mike Cameron would be a fan favorite of the blog. I think we all realize that Bay or Holliday ain’t happening and Cameron is probably the next best FA hitter on the market…he and LaRoche.
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 1st, 2009
11:02 pm
Anyways, I really hope FW loads the bench and bullpen with Eric O’Flaritys and Scott Proctors and J.J. Putz of MLB
nolie
December 1st, 2009
11:03 pm
We need to aim much higher but so far we are shopping Walmart hard
actually we have no idea where Wren is shopping since the board has no info. he could get us a Jag with leather seats yet
joerochester
December 1st, 2009
11:05 pm
Delgado is ok. Probably our best option for the value.
will36206
December 1st, 2009
11:06 pm
Not really serious about Delgado, but you never know….If he is healthy he might be worth a look. Don’t think it is any worse of an idea than Troy Glaus.
carney johnson
December 1st, 2009
11:06 pm
i’d go with glaus and nady, or delgado and nady, but this mike cameron talk is same ol’- same ol’ (sign a vet on the cheap as opposed to actually making a big move) in braves land.
Thundersticks
December 1st, 2009
11:07 pm
Just waiting til FW announces the signing of Carlos Delgado to a one year incentive laden deal… -will36206
I’d be OK with that. -PW Hjort
Not unless we sign Holliday or Bay for LF. Delgado is past his prime and injury-prone.
I’d love to sign DeRosa and Figgins. The lineup would look like this:
LF Figgins
2B Prado
3B Chipper
1B DeRosa
C McCann
SS Escobar
CF McLouth
RF Diaz/Heyward (when ready)
Steve
December 1st, 2009
11:29 pm
Mike Cameron is no more a fix than Garet Anderson. That’s just spinning tires. Plus McLouth’s value drops when you move him to left or right field for Cameron.
Moe Berg
December 1st, 2009
11:31 pm
actually we have no idea where Wren is shopping since the board has no info. he could get us a Jag with leather seats yet–nolie
I completely agree. We heard a great many rumors last winter–Griffey, Furcal, Peavy, et al. None of them came. Whereas, the people whom we did pick up, there was far less bad information circulating around. Let’s wait and see.
nick
December 1st, 2009
11:33 pm
Enter your comments here
UNCBrave
December 1st, 2009
11:39 pm
DOB,
How about them UNC TARHEELS tonight?? HUGE WIN!!
jeffrey d
December 1st, 2009
11:41 pm
Good try, nick.
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 1st, 2009
11:43 pm
Hey what about Jorge Cantu for 1B?
Bobby's Belly
December 1st, 2009
11:50 pm
DOB – Get off the Mike Cameron bandwagon. You so eloquently forgot to mention Mike Cameron is only good for @ 75 rbi’s/yr. This team needs a middle of the order run producer. Mike Cameron is clearly not that guy. Spend the money or stand pat – but another half ass (GA type) signing (albeit this one would be @ 3x more expensive atleast) is stupid.
P. W. Hjort
December 1st, 2009
11:54 pm
DOB – Get off the Mike Cameron bandwagon. You so eloquently forgot to mention Mike Cameron is only good for @ 75 rbi’s/yr. This team needs a middle of the order run producer. Mike Cameron is clearly not that guy. Spend the money or stand pat – but another half ass (GA type) signing (albeit this one would be @ 3x more expensive atleast) is stupid.
Oh lord….
Bobby's Belly
December 1st, 2009
11:59 pm
Oh lord, I’m right.
Bobby's Belly
December 2nd, 2009
12:00 am
Where do you hit Cameron?
Raccoon Eyebrows
December 2nd, 2009
12:00 am
Damn,
I hope FoxSports and SportSouth don’t get any ideas about bringing Chip Carey in since he was fired by Turner Broadcasting. Just can’t take him anymore.
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 2nd, 2009
12:00 am
5th
Bobby's Belly
December 2nd, 2009
12:03 am
So you hit McCann 6th? You’re OK w/ 75 rbi’s out of your 5 hitter?
Bobby's Belly
December 2nd, 2009
12:04 am
Hey, if you’ve got a stud 1B coming too I’m Ok w/ Cameron, but not Cameron as THE BAT we’re missing.
Cheapskate Braves
December 2nd, 2009
12:06 am
We’re getting Carlos Delgado, Marlon Byrd and Matt Capps. Deal with it.
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 2nd, 2009
12:07 am
Noo, I’d bat McCann 4th
Nelson S.
December 2nd, 2009
12:07 am
A offensive comparison between Mike Cameron and Garret Anderson over the last five years. These are averages:
[GP] [R] [H] [2B] [HR] [RBI] [SB] [BB] [SO] [B.A.] [O.B.P] [OPS]
MC 127 74 123 29 21 68 16 59 137 .254 .340 .802
GA 134 63 147 29 16 81 2 29 77 .284 .319 .755
Nelson S.
December 2nd, 2009
12:08 am
that didn’t come out as well as I wanted
UNCBrave
December 2nd, 2009
12:11 am
Delgado and Byrd I can live with…
Capps sucks
Nelson S.
December 2nd, 2009
12:12 am
Lets try that again:
…….[GP]- [R]- [H] [2B] [HR] [RBI] [SB] [BB] [SO] [B.A.] [O.B.P] [OPS]
MC 127– 74 -123- 29 —21—- 68 —-16— 59 —137 .254 —.340 —–.802
GA 134- -63 -147- 29 —16 —-81—- 2 —-29—- 77 .284 —.319 ——.755
UNCBrave
December 2nd, 2009
12:13 am
Delgado and Byrd are solid gets…
Capps is horrible