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STEELY DAN MAN
December 2nd, 2009
5:57 pm
Didn’t say I don’t enjoy all the posts ( which i do ) … but I was just trying to invoke a response
(which I never get ) ….. But thanks, NOT AGAIN, I’ll just stick to reading !!!
Just Pat
December 2nd, 2009
5:57 pm
Jurjjens…..Glad I made ya laugh. Hated doing that on a baseball blog but it’s just TOO good a story not to tell.
Wayne in Utah
December 2nd, 2009
5:58 pm
McFann
No promises, but I will keep my camera handy this winter for ya.
Pat
Now THAT was funny! We have those same blocks! Some of us southern folks are definitely challenged. Good that we can laugh at ourselves.
Jurrjens
I like Church a lot. Just 3+ million per is a bit much for a platoon or backup outfielder, I think.
cwt
Many of us have earned that “dumber than a box of rocks” moniker!
Bobby's Cox
December 2nd, 2009
5:58 pm
What a douche Keith Law is. If that wasn’t a tunnel vision excerpt that Efrim posted, then I don’t know what is.
He failed to mention how to $7 mil for the Braves is a bargain because they were expected to pay Soriano and Gonzalez possibly more than that in arb. He forgot to mention how well Wagner has performed against key left handed batters within the Braves division. He failed to mention how the signing would almost guarantee that both Soriano and Gonzalez will not accept their arbitration cases because the Wagner signing guarantees that they will not be closers for the Braves next year and that both Soriano and Gonzalez want mulit-year offers. He mentioned how the Sox played a game of chess with the Mets and Wagner by gaining 2 draft picks in a 14 appearance rental, but failed to recognize that Wren did even better by gaining 3 draft picks, saving money, and signing a more established, more durable closer than what they already had. And, if you want to throw into that how Wagner could help with the development of Kimbrel who draws much comparison of a young Wagner, well, he forgot to mention that too.
What a moron.
Just Pat
December 2nd, 2009
5:59 pm
Besides….we ARE talking about the “silly season” here and that qualifies!
Bobby's Cox
December 2nd, 2009
6:00 pm
DOB,
Any word if Diaz is continuing his PSX-90 workout program this offseason?
McFann O
December 2nd, 2009
6:02 pm
Thanks, Wayne! Hope you’re able to get some photos.
Always looking for good animal photos for drawing considerations…
civilized white trash
December 2nd, 2009
6:06 pm
wayne–
good points i have concluded that all dumber than a box of rocks deer were educated in the south
jokes dont hate
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 2nd, 2009
6:09 pm
Just Pat,
Haha, It was…
Do they have roundabouts in the South?
civilized white trash
December 2nd, 2009
6:10 pm
mcfann i actually may have some from last year on my camera i shall look and let you know, although there will probably be more elk then deer
Bobby's Cox
December 2nd, 2009
6:11 pm
….or P90X. Whatever it’s called.
Couch Tater
December 2nd, 2009
6:15 pm
Bobby’s Cox, FYI.
J.D. (NC)
Is it just me…or is Billy Wagner a great fit for the Phillies? I know there’s alot of history there, but it’s a different vibe in Philly than back when he left…
Klaw (1:54 PM)
I think he’s a good fit for any team that needs a late-game reliever. He threw really well at the end of the year despite being fresh off TJ surgery.
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/29526/mlb-insider-keith-law
Just Pat
December 2nd, 2009
6:16 pm
Jurrjens….we have something LIKE roundabouts but we call them something different and I can’t remember what right now.
civilized white trash
December 2nd, 2009
6:16 pm
where did DOB go we have almost gone a whole page and he hasnt chimed in…. thats wierd
Just Pat
December 2nd, 2009
6:20 pm
CWT……he’s trying to put the blog together for tomorrow and he mentioned going to see some group/band in Atlanta tonight.
Bravoman
December 2nd, 2009
6:21 pm
Couch Tater,
If Wagner would have signed with someone like the Phillies would Law still have wrote that particular article that criticized Wren and his newest acquisition???
Bubbajayyy
December 2nd, 2009
6:21 pm
How bout ya’ll tole me whar them deers is,an I’ll grab some beers an head on out thar,when igit done we can have some beers and deer jerky
MIBravesFan
December 2nd, 2009
6:22 pm
Agreeing with those commenting on the info about why the number 13 is special to Wagner – that is a darn good reason for having a favorite number, and another reason for me to like the guy and this signing. I was hoping the Braves would get him, I think he showed he was healthy and still extremely effective at the end of last season, and he really stabilizes the closer spot.
KeyLargo
December 2nd, 2009
6:24 pm
McFann
Here’s a knee high 8 point Buck. These are all over Big Pine Key.
KeyLargo
December 2nd, 2009
6:25 pm
McFann
It works best with a link:
http://members.authorsguild.net/burnham/imagelib/Bill_key_deer.jpg
Just Pat
December 2nd, 2009
6:28 pm
MIBravesFan……agree with you about the number 13 and glad that McLouth willingly gave it up. Teamwork in progress already.
TennesseePaul
December 2nd, 2009
6:32 pm
Did you guys know Wagner was a natural right-hander
Yeah I heard that story before. If I recall it was told a lot when he went down with his arm injury. But I remember it from back in his Houston days.
Thanks for the updates DOB.
Bravesfan54
December 2nd, 2009
6:33 pm
O.J. – I liked the sound of that too, i.e., that Braves will be agressive in pursuing their needs, but not the part about unloading Lowe being unlikely.
For me, the question is how much salary should we be prepared to eat?
3 years $45 million = one ton of logic saying: Lowe gotta go!
6-4-3
December 2nd, 2009
6:35 pm
It’s being reported that the Braves are one of a list of teams interested in pitcher Cameron Loe who last pitched for the Rangers in 2008. I didn’t see that one coming.
Just Pat
December 2nd, 2009
6:35 pm
KeyLargo……have heard about those small deer down in the Keys and, while ours aren’t THAT big (or at least most of them aren’t) haven’t seen any that small.
Couch Tater
December 2nd, 2009
6:35 pm
Bravoman,
I don’t read Keith Law often enough to have an opinion. I found that chat to be contrary to today’s article. Maybe, someone who reads Keith can give you more insight.
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 2nd, 2009
6:36 pm
Just Pat,
My and my family were visiting Scotland. My 65 year old grandma was driving us through the highlands, (and there is about 4 feet between the car and these huge cliffs) and he end up in our first roundabout, my aunt who was sitting in the passenger seat (Driving in USA) said, “Take a left into the roundabout” as that is the only way you can go. She turns right. “WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING!!?!”, my aunt screams. “I said turn left!” And my grandma goes, “Don’t you know that left is right and right is left here??”
Highlight of the trip, luckily only a like 5 cars were there…
TnBrian
December 2nd, 2009
6:40 pm
TBS did wonders for the Braves all those years. Once you’re a fan, you’re always a fan.
I’m a little surprised they’re going after a set up guy because I still think a combo of Moylan/Medlen is pretty strong, but if they can get Rodney or Dotel than it just adds to how good that pen will be. Acquiring pen arms isn’t really that exciting like getting a top starter or big bat, but damn, think how many close games through the season that are lost because of crappy relievers. Moylan saved the team from a bunch of losses in those tight games when he’d come in.
Just Pat
December 2nd, 2009
6:40 pm
Jurrjens…….and hopefully NONE of those five cars ended up hitting you, right?
And I pity that 65 yr. old grandma ’cause I AM one…….ALMOST!
civilized white trash
December 2nd, 2009
6:42 pm
i remember the first time i saw a georgia white tail deer… i turned to my friend and said i didnt know you had a dog think it was a golden retriever he replied your dumber then an empty box of marbles that’s our deer i cant believe the size difference
Robins Green Drink!
December 2nd, 2009
6:42 pm
DOB.. .And anyone else for that matter what do u guys think about this Theroy.
BABABO0Y: ok i got a theory wanna hear it?
BABABO0Y: my theroy is that the wagner signing b4 the meetings next week is more valuable to the braves offence than the 40 or so saves billy can provide the pitching staff. example…
BABABO0Y: last year people didnt want to come to atlanta because they didnt take them seriously. it took the lowe signing till someone wanted to play for us. we talked about that
BABABO0Y: with our big 2 pen guys due to leave the orginazation and what we both can consider major offencive issues in the field. the braves seem to be in the same boat as a non contender coming into the meetings next week
BABABO0Y: the ability to not only sign wagner but sign him this week only hrs after the arb deadline was huge going into the meetings cus there may be a chance to steal a player who may not have thought of atl as an option or a guy who may otherwise not wave his no trade
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 2nd, 2009
6:42 pm
Just Pat,
No… Thank God…
Insurance on a rental car in a foreign country?
Fo’geta bout it!
David O'Brien
December 2nd, 2009
6:44 pm
FRANK WREN on where the Braves are now compared to this point last offseason:
“We saw last year where everything was very slow developing, and a lot of things didn’t happen until after January. So I feel like leading into the Winter Meetings we’re way ahead of the game [compared to] where we were a year ago.
“And we’re really where we wanted to be. We wanted to have some things done leading into the Winter Meetings, so we could have probably a finer focus rather than a broad focus at the Winter Meetings, and we’ve accomplished that.
“So we feel good leading into that next phase. We still have some things that we want to do, no question. But for this time of year and with the slow start to the market, we’re real happy to be where we are.”
Again, he said a setup reliever and offense are what they have left to do, priorities remaining. Said the hitter could be a 1B, could be OF, could be a combo player if one’s available. But he also said it could still go a lot of ways, and some of that has to do with which of their starters they trade, assuming they trade one.
BravesFanChris25
December 2nd, 2009
6:44 pm
I got home from work about a hour and a half ago and I turned on the TV (I keep MLB Network as the first channel when you turn the TV on) and saw Wagner was signed and I was ecstatic.
I had a feeling all along that it was a matter of when Wagner signed, not if. This was a good signing and I think he’ll do good next season.
Couch Tater
December 2nd, 2009
6:44 pm
McFann,
Check the photos (for your art) on Wunderground. (a weather site)
http://www.wunderground.com/wximage/viewimages.html
David O'Brien
December 2nd, 2009
6:45 pm
BOBBY COX on his impressions of Wagner during the pitcher’s career: “Basically dominating. And talking to Billy, he’s good for more than one inning on occasions, too. That’s a plus that we haven’t had here for a while.
“And just watching him through his Houston years and all that, a dominating guy that you always wanted on your side. He’s been a six- or seven-time All-Star; that shows you how good he has been. And a gamer — I think character and being a great teammate, willing to go out there, means a lot to me. And we’ve always organized our team with people like that, or tried to. I think it’s a good way to go about it.”
Just Pat
December 2nd, 2009
6:46 pm
TnBrian…..totally agree with you about TBS doing wonders for the Braves. Started watching in 1982 while on an “enforced” vacation in FL and never left them. Moaned, groaned and complained when TBS started showing fewer games until hubby got DirecTV installed for me this past year. As you said, once a fan, always a fan.
Braves Lifer
December 2nd, 2009
6:46 pm
Bobby’s Cox- I couldn’t agree any more with your comment about Keith Law’s article regarding Wagner. The only thing that I would add to it is that; the Braves signed a potential top notch closer to a one year deal at a modest cost during a time when the apparent trend in baseball is not to give multi-year contracts to relievers bc of the risk. Wren went a step above this by inserting an option in the contract that vests based on performance (appear in 50 games). I really like this move a lot. As a side note, after last year isn’t it nice to have players willing to sign at a discount just to be a Brave.
TnBrian
December 2nd, 2009
6:47 pm
Watching that Wagner press conference, I swear he looks, talks & acts like every guy here in north Chattanooga. Country folks that talk & talk & talk & talk. Not that it’s a bad thing, but try & work around these guys for 8 hours straight.
MIBravesFan
December 2nd, 2009
6:48 pm
Just Pat – “MIBravesFan……agree with you about the number 13 and glad that McLouth willingly gave it up. Teamwork in progress already.”
Excellent point about Nate. It was good of him to do that, although I’m not surprised he did – he is a Midwesterner after all
David O'Brien
December 2nd, 2009
6:49 pm
BILLY WAGNER on joining the Braves, etc.:
“I’m happy to be here. I’ve always been a life-long Braves fans. My grandparents have always been Braves fans, and it’s kind of like full circle. I don’t know how many times I went to Bobby when were playing against him and said, ‘Hey, you know, let’s help me out here. Get me over here. I can do something, carry towels or something.’
“It’s a great experience for me. I’m excited. I am healthy – I’ve proven that. And to come back to the National League, I’m excited.”
I asked him if signing as soon as you did a reflection of how interested he’d been in them and how impressed he was that they flew up there last week right away to see him:
“When Bobby Cox comes up, it’s pretty obvious that he carries a lot of weight because of his experience and what he’s accomplished. And to come to speak to me, I was impressed. Plus he said that he knew a guy that could make good cowboy hats and so, I thought that was a heck of a deal. (laughs)
“Honestly, always being a Braves fan, never having the opportunity – always being on the wrong end. And it was close to home for me really gives my family a lot to cheer for now. They can get their Braves hats and stuff back out again.
“It’s just a good situation for me and my family, and to be here in Bobby’s last year and possibly do something special, I think that’s all I ever really wanted to do.”
He was asked about any specific Braves memories from watching them on TV growing up:
“Well, I grew up loving Dale Murphy. Bob Horner hitting four home runs I think in about 1980, against Houston. I mean, just a lot of things.
“Listen, I mean, granted TBS and WGN were about all you could get in southwest Virgina. But when you truly love a team, you love a team through thick and thin. You know, around the era that I started to know baseball, it was through the thin with the Braves. So when you love somebody, you start to figure it out. And then when I got ito college in the early ’90s, they were making their run into the playoffs.
“Then once I got drafted, I helped them get further.” (That brough much laughter)….
“It’s just one of those things where it’s a once-in-a-lifetime situation where you honestly get to come somewhere [to a team] you grew up watching and admiring the guys that played the game. They’ve got such a great tradition here of winning and competing and having great guys, that you want to be a part of that.
“I’m excited about the opportunity, and know that they’ll get the best I have to offer.”
(Hey, I told you the guy was a great interview.)
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 2nd, 2009
6:52 pm
We should vote for a new nickname for Wagner!
civilized white trash
December 2nd, 2009
6:52 pm
theres DOB i knew he would be around soon
Eric In Albany N.Y.
December 2nd, 2009
6:53 pm
Excuse the last post as robin… my theroy is that the wagner signing b4 the meetings next week is more valuable to the braves offence than the 40 or so saves billy can provide the pitching staff. example.
last offseason players didnt want to come to atlanta because they didnt take them seriously. it took the signing of lowe till someone wanted to play for the braves or even opened their eyes to how good they could be in 09.
with our big 2 pen guys due to leave the orginazation, and what we should consider major offencive issues in the field. the braves seem to be in the same boat as a non contender coming into the meetings next week.
the ability to not only sign wagner but sign him this week only hrs after the arb deadline was huge as the team goes into the meetings cus there may be a chance to steal a player who may not have thought of atl as an option or a guy who may otherwise may not wave his no trade now that the team can be considered more of a contender.
TnBrian
December 2nd, 2009
6:53 pm
Robins Green Drink, is that post influenced by Howard Stern with the names Baba Booey & Robin? I used to love watching them harass Gary about his breath, mouth & know it all attitude.
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 2nd, 2009
6:55 pm
“Then once I got drafted, I helped them get further.” (That brough much laughter)….
I don’t get it…
rtrafford
December 2nd, 2009
6:56 pm
After reading the DOB piece on the Wagner interview…I get the feeling Laroche fits into the plan…
Wide Right
December 2nd, 2009
6:58 pm
DOB,
Would you say that there is pressure on Wren to “unload” salary sooner than he would like so that he can free up cash before other free agents (Cameron, LaRoche, etc.) are signed In other words, if they are confident that they can trade one of their pitchers, namely Lowe, to free up cash but only after the market for Lackey and Wolf takes shape…do they wait for that to happen at the great risk of losing some guys they are interested in?
Maybe the answer to that is an obvious ‘yes’…but i just dont sense from what i’ve read that unloading salary is job #1 for Wren.
Couch Tater
December 2nd, 2009
6:58 pm
Thanks, DOB. It’s nice to hear (read) the optimism.
BravesFanChris25
December 2nd, 2009
6:59 pm
TnBrian
Where are you watching the press conference? Is there a link or something?
Eric In Albany N.Y.
December 2nd, 2009
7:00 pm
TnBrian i have to admit something.. i have 2 loves in life, the howard stern show and atlanta braves baseball… i meant to edit that post but i sent it b4 i could… glad someone picked up on the bababooey name hehe.
Wayne in Utah
December 2nd, 2009
7:01 pm
rtrafford
What makes you think that? Was it something that was stated, or a feeling?
If it was a feeling, it might be gas…….(just kidding)
McFann O
December 2nd, 2009
7:02 pm
Keylargo–
What a cutie! Thanks for the link. I saw one like that about 5 years ago…he might have been a little taller, though.
Couch Tater–
Thanks! Those are some beautiful photos!
Gotta run…be back later!
Just Pat
December 2nd, 2009
7:03 pm
Outta here…..bye, guys!
Chuck James Was Solid Until The 6th!!!!!!
December 2nd, 2009
7:03 pm
Jurrjens4CY
He means when we played Houston in the playoffs all those years in the 90’s we OWNED Wagner! Hahaha that was funny when I saw him say that!
chris
December 2nd, 2009
7:03 pm
rtrafford- how does laroche fit into the plan?
Eric In Albany N.Y.
December 2nd, 2009
7:03 pm
Wayne, Jordan Played Clean =)
Wayne in Utah
December 2nd, 2009
7:06 pm
I still like the idea of trying to pass Lowe off to the Brewers for Matt Gamel. I know he can’t field very well, but if he can’t get better at covering the corner positions, you could always deal him to an AL team (hint, Dayton Moore).
Getting a guy like Gamel might still give us enough $$ for another higher priced hitter.
rtrafford
December 2nd, 2009
7:08 pm
on wags “helping out after the draft”, see: 2001 NLDS
TnBrian
December 2nd, 2009
7:11 pm
BravesFanChris25, I just watched clips from Braves homepage. I couldn’t find the whole conference either.
Eric In Albany N.Y., I like Stern too. When they pick on Bababooey, which he deserves by the way, I used to laugh so hard. I thought stuttering John was funny in those interviews he’d do.
nolie
December 2nd, 2009
7:11 pm
I didn’t see that one coming.
kinda like Proctor so fat this year. they have always loved those cheap signs that might catch lightning in a bottle
rtrafford
December 2nd, 2009
7:12 pm
on Roachy, I read the words about Wags, get an image of his personality, his FOC stature, and see a simple fit with strong chemistry.
Will it happen? Who knows, but I think Adam will want to be on board with what Wren et al are doing here, even for a couple of bucks less that he made in 2009 for two years.
Just a gut feeling…we’ll see…
nolie
December 2nd, 2009
7:14 pm
Tiger Woods:Escapade in an Escalade! sure fire tv movie
Rob - in pain (from SC)
December 2nd, 2009
7:14 pm
Wayne in Utah
I really don’t believe Melvin is willing to trade Mat Gamel. Expect for LaPorta (a bust so far) he has kept a strangle hold on his prospects. Just like the Angels. There is no way we get him for Lowe. We might not even get him for Vazquez
keylargo
December 2nd, 2009
7:18 pm
JustPat
The deer are actually larger now than they originally were. They almost were extinct back in the 70’s and they brought in some VA deer that were very close genetically, but larger. Now they are probably 30% bigger than the original Key Deer, but still the smallest of the species I know of.
Here is one more picture of a baby deer, which always have the white spots. They are about the size of a Cocker Spaniel only taller.
http://www.fws.gov/verobeach/images/programs/Key%20deer.jpg
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 2nd, 2009
7:19 pm
A rival executive said this morning that he likes the deal for the Braves, because Wagner comes to them at a discounted rate. “He’s probably an $11 million-a-year closer if he’s not a Type A free agent,” said the executive. “So they get a potentially high-impact pitcher on a short-term obligation.” Said another executive: “It’s a value signing. You wouldn’t want to give up the draft pick, but because he came to them for less than what he’d normally cost, it’s probably worth it. … He was throwing the ball great in September.”
Cameron C
December 2nd, 2009
7:19 pm
http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=7142727&topic_id=7648908&c_id=atl
press confrence
braves4ever
December 2nd, 2009
7:20 pm
I am liking the focus and direction Wren is on, Great deal with Wagner , I have long thought he was a great pitcher and wanted to have him on this team. This move by Wren was great, now he has to sit back and let teams come to him with power hitters, he’s got the upper hand now. I think in 2 weeks we will really like this team.
And a shout out to DOB , the last few weeks you have kept the natives at bay with good reading.
Cameron C
December 2nd, 2009
7:20 pm
but you have to go down and click the 3rd video, it says full archive press confrence or something like that.
Eric In Albany N.Y.
December 2nd, 2009
7:21 pm
TnBrian i loved john too… howard is not happy with john right now… he has said stupid about howard not so long ago and howard was not happy with what he said. anyway… i take it you dont listen anymore?
i swear i know more people who are fans now than b4 he left for sirius. and i listen more than ever now… i have a job where i can listen to every word of every show… u thought u liked it before? you would love it now! lol and it sounds like i work for them but im just a fan.
keylargo
December 2nd, 2009
7:22 pm
McFann/JustPat
Here is one more picture of a baby Key Deer. They always have the white spots and are about the size of a Cocker Spaniel only taller.
http://www.fws.gov/verobeach/images/programs/Key%20deer.jpg
Wayne in Utah
December 2nd, 2009
7:23 pm
Eric
He pushed off…..
(actually, I wasn’t even a Jazz fan back then….lived elsewhere….but folks here are passionate about the “push off”)
ETF.
December 2nd, 2009
7:24 pm
Woot woot.
Wayne in Utah
December 2nd, 2009
7:26 pm
Rob
How is the PT going? I feel for ya!
Eric In Albany N.Y.
December 2nd, 2009
7:26 pm
he pushed off and has 6 rings to malones 0 lol… im going to see the lakers in NJ this month im not a basketball fan but i cant wait to go my friend played basketball in college and she wanted to go and im all up for going down to see any kind of sports… jordan is clean if he pushed off or not lol
TnBrian
December 2nd, 2009
7:27 pm
Eric, I listened to his show some but mainly watched him on E channel. You can also watch some clips on youtube. Do they still pick on Gary? I can’t imagine they don’t, but OMG, was that some funny sh**. Only thing about Stern that would get on my nerves is all his BS talk about wanting to hook up with hot chicks, but I’m sure it’s just for ratings.
Eric In Albany N.Y.
December 2nd, 2009
7:28 pm
i was a huge Jordan fan just like everyone else in the country the early to mid 90s what a great sports era! im sure everyone here would agree!
David O'Brien
December 2nd, 2009
7:29 pm
Jurrjens, Wagner was talking about a few of his performances against them, being self deprecating.
Alright, we’re going to see Billy Joe Shaver. Hopefully the Braves can hold off any major moves in the next few hours.
BravesfaninWis
December 2nd, 2009
7:29 pm
Wagner was a great signing. Essentially it won’t cost us much at all because we will end up getting two first round picks for Gonzo and Raphy. When on, Wagner is a intimidating lights out closer. I am looking forward to hearing Enter Sandman blaring when he makes his entrance to close out the game for us.
nolie
December 2nd, 2009
7:32 pm
In Plain Sight</b<
has a Dominican infielder named Raphael Ramirez.
anybody notice all the socially dysfunctional heroes on USA Network?
Rob - in pain (from SC)
December 2nd, 2009
7:33 pm
Wayne in Utah
Thanks for asking
I am hanging in there. School makes it difficult because if I write for too long it starts to throb. I am suprised that I still have this much discomfort but people tell me it is normal. Still taking pain killers.
Rob - in pain (from SC)
December 2nd, 2009
7:34 pm
Wayne in Utah
I think trading Lowe without eating tons of money, would greatly improve my shoulder discomfort
Anders
December 2nd, 2009
7:37 pm
Remember way back in September when I suggested that wagner would be a good fit for the Braves and most on here snarled they don’t want old Met cast offs? Where are those folks today? Anyway, I stand by what I said all along. Wagner can still throw and he’s a better guy than he’s given credit for. He’s a no bull guy which rubs some players the wrong way – I say, to bad.
Next up for the Braves – keep an eye on Carlos Delgado in the PR winter league. If he looks healthy and shows life in his bat do they dare take a one year flyer on him and spend their money on LF? That would leave first base wide open for 2011 and possibly for the second half of 2010.
I have an idea for unloading Lowe, but I’ll save that for later. Congrats on Wagner – solid move.
Hoosier Aaron
December 2nd, 2009
7:38 pm
David,
Before you embark on Indy, call Gov Daniels and maybe he’ll give you a tour of the city on his Harley…but better bundle ’cause you’ll be lucky to see 40 degrees while you’re here. Can’t visit the Hoosier State without having a breaded pork tenderloin – you know the kind… about a foot in diameter on a 5 inch bun, with lettuce, mayo, a tomato… and don’t forget the pickle and a little mustard!
In terms of the Bravos, I like the Wagner signing…especially early. It gives FW an opportunity to focus on offensive issues at the meetings. He did an excellent job of filling our pressing needs last year – and he’s off and running before the meetings get started.
Plus if Wagner grew up loving Murph – you can’t get too many of those guys on your team.
NotAgain
December 2nd, 2009
7:43 pm
Remember way back in September when I suggested that wagner would be a good fit for the Braves and most on here snarled they don’t want old Met cast offs? Anders
you’re my hero, no doubt
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 2nd, 2009
7:43 pm
Seems like only yesterday when I was watching Frank talk about Lowe.
Also, Thank you for people for answered the joke…
nolie
December 2nd, 2009
7:44 pm
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Soph
December 2nd, 2009
7:45 pm
We should vote for a new nickname for Wagner!
I’m sure RHR’s on it.
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 2nd, 2009
7:50 pm
I’m sure RHR’s on it.
I hope so. All I got was “Waggy”
Thats depressing…
ETF.
December 2nd, 2009
7:50 pm
We should vote for a new nickname for Wagner!
How bout 2 Broke Arms So I’m Lefty. 2BASIL. Lol…
Eric In Albany N.Y.
December 2nd, 2009
7:51 pm
the braves fans will surely come up with the nickname of the wagner painter that home depot sells every commercial break as wagners wagner… some guy dressed as a spraying paint tool for sure
Anders
December 2nd, 2009
7:52 pm
you’re my hero, no doubt (not again)
By “not again” are you lamenting having to do another complete 180 on your view of a player now that he is a Brave? If so, take comfort in knowing you are not alone.
BravesFanChris25
December 2nd, 2009
7:54 pm
Thanks Cameron
I loved the PC. Can’t wait to see him pitch for Braves
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 2nd, 2009
7:57 pm
“And just talking to Billy when we did visit him, he’s good for more than just one inning…”
And so it begins…
Jurrjens4NLCY
December 2nd, 2009
7:58 pm
Thats from Bobby, forgot that….
bravito199
December 2nd, 2009
8:04 pm
DOB
Do you think the Braves have shown interest in Japanese reliever Ryota Igarashi who Keith Law ranked 25th in his top 50 free agents??
NotAgain
December 2nd, 2009
8:32 pm
By “not again” are you lamenting having to do another complete 180 on your view of a player now that he is a Brave? If so, take comfort in knowing you are not alone.
NotAgain is my normal name, and I didn’t have anything against Wagner at any time, so don’t be such a putz.
Only a moron wouldn’t want him just because he was a Met. It’s true that there are some morons here, but from my perusal of various Met’s boards I am sure that y’all have more than your share too.
You always come here blowing your own horn when you happen to have been on the right track about something, but conveniently forget all the times you are wrong. and exaggerating the previous response that was ‘against’ you, like everybody here is too stupid to appreciate your uncanny insights. .
Kinda pathetic always needing to reassure yourself like that on a blog dedicated to a team other than your own.
That was what my comment was about. I’m not a moron and neither are most of the bloggers here, so shove your condescending crap, puhleeese.
And you wonder why so many here don’t appreciate all your fine points.
10
December 2nd, 2009
8:32 pm
Whitlock throws an arse whupping on the media:
http://msn.foxsports.com/golf/story/10464562
Winterville
December 2nd, 2009
8:32 pm
Oh Anders. I was not one of the ones saying anything in September but that doesn’t mean I think this is a slam dunk great move without risk. I still question how he will react when things get tough. That was one of the faults I felt he had with The Mets. Just because someone has an opinion on why things are going poorly doesn’t mean he has to air it out in the media. Some things should stay in the clubhouse. Hopefully it doesn’t come to that but it’s not as cut and dry as you saying “I told you so.” It still has to work out.
GovClintonTyree
December 2nd, 2009
8:41 pm
I think we should throw the entire farm at the Padres for Gonzalez. Schafer, Freeman, Hicks, about six pitchers. I think we can do this because we are about to be in the unique position of having the horses we need in Atlanta without needing any more reinforcements.
Offseason financial blueprint:
1. C McCann $5.5m signed 4 more yrs
2. C Ross $1.6m signed 1 more yr
3. 1B Gonzalez $4.75m signed 1 more yr; extend 3yrs $54m deal
4. 2B Prado $0.5m controlled 4 more yrs
5. UT Infante $2.2m signed 2 more yrs
6. SS Escobar $0.5m controlled 4 more yrs
7. 3B Jones $13.0m signed 4 more yrs
8. OF Diaz $3.0m offer arbitration
9. OF McLouth $4.5m signed 3 more yrs
10.OF Cameron $7.5m sign to 2 yr deal
11.OF Schafer $0.5m controlled 5 more yrs
12. UT Conrad $0.4m controlled 5 more yrs
13. OF Heyward $0.4m controlled 6 more yrs
TOTAL PAYROLL, HITTING $49m
1. SP Vazquez $11.5m signed 1 yr; offer 4yr, $48m
2. SP Jurrjens $0.5m controlled 4 more yrs
3. SP Hanson $0.5m controlled 6 more yrs
4. SP Hudson $9m signed 3 yrs, plus option
5. SP Kawakami $6.66m signed 2 more yrs
6. RP Valdez $0.5m controlled 5 more yrs
7. RP Acosta $0.5m controlled 5 more yrs
8. RP Medlen $0.4m controlled 5 more yrs
9. RP O’Flaherty $0.5m controlled 4 more yrs
10.RP Moylan $0.5m controlled 3 more yrs
11.RP TBD $2.5m sign a veteran setup man
12.RP Wagner $7.0m signed 1 yr, option $6.5m
13.SP Lowe $3.0m dead money for 3 yrs
TOTAL PAYROLL, PITCHING: $43.5m
TOTAL PAYROLL: 92.5m
We control virtually all the players we need for two more years or significantly more. Give the Padres 10 prospects. Who cares? In a few years, when we need reinforcements, the system will start blooming again.
Payroll under budget; team competes for World Series for the next five years. I’m a freakin’ genius.