12:36 am November 24, 2009, by David O'Brien
November 25th, 200911:31 pm
DOB, you heard of Wild Light? I’m currently digging their new album, Adult Nights
November 25th, 200911:32 pm
In the 40’s there was also this:
Our DOB certainly could use the same name sometimes…
November 25th, 200911:44 pm
I know this trade isn’t likely to happen but it would make sense if Detroit is looking to free up money.
Braves get: Miguel Cabrera
Tigers get: Derek Lowe, Jordan Schafer, Freeman,& a couple of minor leaguers.
This would gives the braves what they need a Power Hitting First Baseman. From the Tigers standpoint you get a promising young outfielder in Schafer, a replacement first basemen of the future in Freeman. With Lowe you get a veteran workhorse. The tigers also would save $83 million total in the deal. For the next 3 years you would essentially only be paying Cabrera $6 Million.
November 25th, 200911:51 pm
Id do it. It would be hard to give up two of our top prospects, but MC is exactly the kind of bat the Braves need.
November 25th, 200911:58 pm
Using correct grammar and punctuation has a purpose, to make clear what you are saying so it is not interpreted incorrectly. Oops, it didn’t work with you. Your posts clearly indicate that you don’t practice the concept when writing or when you’re reading. Otherwise you wouldn’t still be trying to put words into my mouth that I didn’t say (or write, in this case), imply, or even think.
“if that’s not what you meant, just what exactly did you mean and why did you post it?”
I meant exactly what I (and Frank Wren) said. Arbitration-based mlb contracts are not guaranteed as free agent contracts are. They afford the team some manner of protection. I went on (when asked) to explain that justification for cancelling such contracts must be based on “baseball” reasons and not “financial” reasons. I can’t help it if you want to interpret and assume that I meant something else.
I may be And Idiot, but I’m not stupid enough to think that any team would ever cut a player without coming up with a justifiable “baseball” reason even if their true motivation included “financial” reasons.
“And Idiot” is a moniker intended to poke fun at the many childish reactions on the blog, and good-natured references to it do not bother me. But I do take offense to remarks such as, “you can shove that particular crap where the sun don’t shine sweetie” even if they come with a smiley face.
November 26th, 200912:01 am
I’m kinda scairt of Miggy a few years down the road. He does not seem to take care of himself. He sure is a hitter, but I don’t see the Braves putting that much money in one position what with the other needs.
I am worried about the pen guys. There are some relievers available, but IMO it’s gonna be hard hard hard to replace those two.
I’ve said it B4 though no one seems to agree but I think this winter could be tougher than last. They have more different kind of needs, and expectations for next season are already much higher than last winter.
Good luck Frank
November 26th, 200912:04 am
Happy Thanksgiving, Denziens and DOB…Please be safe on the Roads
November 26th, 200912:19 am
what a load of crap. I have no problem with others understanding me. I’m ill , on a huge number of pills and I have a nerve problem that makes it hard to type well, but everybody seems to get it.
It’s your post that several good posters seem to have been unable to understand correctly.
I know I have seen that same stupid attack of grammar and typing on here before. I’m sure you use another name and have been the same idiot b4 you finally named yourself correctly. I’m thinking Jeff321 or ML04 someone like that.
If you can’t write so that everybody else can comprehend what you mean, don’t blame it on me . You made a foolish statement and then argued ignorantly and now are putting a different spin on it and blaming all of us who just aren’t intelligent enough to appreciate your superior intellect (joke in case you don’t get it)..I’ll put up my college degrees and IQ test scores and baseball experience and knowledge against yours any day of the week, sweetie
You were wrong and are trying to obfuscate it with spin tactics, changing the entire tone of your original remarks as others have also said. You ain’t foolin’ anybody my man.
What are you, 16?
and you can still shove your condescending rationalizations where the sun don’t shine. No smiley this time
November 26th, 200912:20 am
nolie (@ 12:01)
Miggy scares me NOW, like he’s one shot away from going all Milton Bradley on us. Great bat (and I understand his defense is better, though I didn’t see him play in person), but the “issues” and the contract are scary. Too, bad we can’t get him on an arbitration-based contract and cut him if he acts out. (Couldn’t resist – lol)
And I agree that this off season may, indeed, be tougher than last year to put the pieces together. There are few obvious and easy answers out there. But we’ll probably never hear about the “near misses” like last year since FW is playing it much closer to the vest.
November 26th, 200912:50 am
what is up?
there is there weird chance the braves get it right.
keep the pitchers.
keep javy. period priod.
November 26th, 200912:55 am
that post did not come out right.
either way i would rather have those starting six rather then willingham, or cruz.
we had no injuries on our staff this year. that is not normal.
November 26th, 20091:16 am
three times make a moron.
November 26th, 20091:21 am
well the again whatching roadhouse, on vh1.
gotta love mijho.
November 26th, 20091:25 am
there is a ouutside chance the dawgs might beat tech.
we are a huge underdog. we got the better athletes.
but they are better coached.,
November 26th, 20091:56 am
Hey Uga. How ya doin’ tonight? I think Medlen can be backup for injuries even though I’m not sold on him. Keeping all 6 starters would be nice if we had enough payroll, but I think it’s too much invested for the Braves to actually do it. I think Lowe can bounce back, but he would give us the most payroll flexibility. A deal for someone with a bit of MLB experience and high upside would do 4 me if we could then use the windfall on some other problem areas like the pen etc.
I’m in no hurry and am just hangin’ round to see what Frank will get done. Have a Happy Thanksgiving bro.
November 26th, 20092:10 am
UGA why were you talking to yourself for so long
i would rather have javy, tommy , jjj, and hudson.
those four will give us a chance?
they will miss bats.
like strikeout pitchers.
November 26th, 20092:12 am
unless my good friend bay area aint around nothing better to do.
November 26th, 20092:21 am
cmon unless you know a guy named wes vawter in atlanta, you got know cred.
November 26th, 20092:24 am
November 26th, 20092:36 am
we could talk about the smihtereens. . jeff schutz was pretty sure about the time that black jack fell down.
the orginal 40 watt was on broad and lumpkin.
the uptown lounge moved behind where the original oddysey used to be.
November 26th, 20092:42 am
uptown lounge, hosted some great bands.
smiths, in the 80’s we saw great music. the church.
remmber that great album mars needs guitars?
November 26th, 20092:49 am
just stoking the fire,
aint gonna get that fine carolina b’bque.
love the vinequar thing.
pulled pork with that light afore mentioned thing works.
November 26th, 20093:10 am
love the vinequar thing
oh boy, not me either in BBQ or cole slaw. not really much of a BBQ fan at all. I had to get a special dispensation from Dave just to keep coming here since I don’t like Q, or The Clash and I think Penelope Cruz has elephant ears.
Wayne in Utah
November 26th, 20093:13 am
It is a bit scary trading off a good pitcher, because how many times have we seen teams pitching plans fall apart. Remember 2008! What a disaster.
But I do think with Medlen, Reyes and a few other guys backing them up, we would be OK if we lost 1 pitcher (assuming we deal one pitcher). With the 5th position, you can skip him more in the early going.
Looking forward to the turkey and ham and all the fixins tomorrow (joining with 2 other families, so a single turkey won’t do it!).
I know I can be a jerk sometimes, but I truly enjoy most posters on the blog. I also appreciate the insight that Dave provides.
Here’s hoping all will have a wonderful Thanksgiving weekend. Take the time to appreciate your family, your freedoms and anything else you hold dear to your heart.
If anyone is looking for a good thing to do this Christmas season, go to http://www.christmasjars.com and check it out. You can make a difference for someone in your neighborhood/office/family who is having a difficult time.
Take care folks!
November 26th, 20093:15 am
Same to you, Wayne!
November 26th, 20093:18 am
Never meet BBQ I didn’t like! I appreciate all style! Dry rub hog ribs are my favorite though.
And nolie, I don’t think I have ever noticed anything about Penelope Cruz’ ears…….
Enjoy that bird Wayne, and everybody else too
November 26th, 20093:19 am
And nolie, I don’t think I have ever noticed anything about Penelope Cruz’ ears Wayne
ah she’s alright when she wears her hair down…
November 26th, 20093:20 am
Just sitting here watching “Tommy Boy”, one of my favorite movies of all time.
It’s getting late, but I don’t have to get up too early tomorrow.
November 26th, 20093:22 am
Yeah, I guess she does have hair too, huh. Never noticed.
November 26th, 20093:23 am
Stop playing with your dinghy!
November 26th, 20093:28 am
November 26th, 20093:29 am
I think we are going to have to wait about 2 more weeks to see what the Braves first move will be. Unless it is another Juan Abreu type deal, it might give a lot of insight to followup moves.
It certainly will be fun after the first real move to then speculate on additional moves. Dang I love the hot stove league.
I guess I am a big time prospect hugger, but I sure hope we don’t unload Medlen or Schafer. Freeman too, for that matter. I just like it when we develop our own talent, as it seems to give us a chance to have a longer relationship with these guys.
Just too bad that Andruw could’nt take better care of himself. Jonny Gomes would be a good pickup, if the Reds don’t retain him.
November 26th, 20093:30 am
nolie, your a good man. Have a good night!
November 26th, 20093:34 am
Mitchie, I think your brain has a thick candy shell…..
I love Michelle’s retort to the boys on the shore!
November 26th, 20093:41 am
I too love the hot stove. I hate it at the same time due to impatience.
I know I am a minority with some of my ideas on the blog. I am not a prospect hugger as much as some of the rest. I do not mind trading prospects for legitimate, proven players. (within reason, of course.) Schafer, Medlin, Freeman…they can all go if its for the right player/players.
I really think the Braves can pry away BJ Upton from the Rays. I would love to see that. Vazquez, Schafer, +1 for Upton? Javy might be too expensive for em though…
November 26th, 20093:43 am
My favorite line from Tommy Boy…
Tommy: I l-left a message.
Richard: A message? What number did you call?
Tommy: Two, four, niner, five, six, seven…
Richard: I can’t hear you, you’re trailing off and did I catch a niner in there? Were you calling from a walkie-talkie?
Tommy: No, it was cordless.
November 26th, 20093:46 am
Wayne, Your… Your brain has the shell on it.
November 26th, 20093:55 am
Two of my three sons have a lot of the lines memorized from TB. My company used to use the selling scenes in our sales training center as a way to lighten things up.
One of our family traditions is on the Thanksgiving weekend, we put up our Christmas tree, and while doing so, watch “Christmas Vacation”.
I always tell my wife “I’m going to get you something..(click)…real nice.”
I think I am going to run.
Take care of yourself. Another thing I am thankful for are young folks like yourself. I know I have mentioned it before, but I do appreciate your service. I bet your folks are proud of you.
Talk with you again soon.
November 26th, 20094:00 am
Thnaks Wayne. Take care. Tell you son “Hi” for me.
Wow, sorry about the typos….
November 26th, 20098:02 am
Dear John Malone,
Listen to your baseball advisors and pull the trigger on the Cabrera trade. It will make the Braves more valuable.
November 26th, 20098:03 am
Give Thanks all Braves Fans when this deal is done.
November 26th, 20098:27 am
Haven’t posted much due to lack of time but have read off and on some suggestions on here. The latest conversation piece on here that makes absolutely NO SENSE? Trading for Miguel Cabrera???
I’ve said it before about certain players and I’ll say it again about Cabrera: He’s not a “Braves-type” player. With his attitude (he’s had attitude problems since he came up from the minors) and his terrible defense, he’s just not a fit for the Braves. Oh yeah…he comes with a $21 million price tag per year for 6 more years! Are you friggin’ kidding me? C’mon, y’all. Keep talking about this on the blog and DOB is going to have to dedicate a full blog like he did suggesting the Braves won’t deal Jurrjens….which was ridiculous.
If the Braves were going to acquire a guy making that much money, why wouldn’t they just offer Jason Bay a 4 year deal at about $16 million per year and not deal any prospects/players? So we’re going to overpay by about $5 million per year for Cabrera (compared to Bay) AND lose some players in the transaction for a guy that plays worse defense and has a history of attitude problems? Okkkkkkkkkkaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy…….
I still think we sign Laroche to a 2-year deal after everything settles. He fits extremely well in the clubhouse, gives us great glove at 1B, and is that power source we so desperately need (if for just 2/3 the season). 2 year-$15 million would get it done provided Laroche doesn’t get something longer term. Plus, it gives Freeman 2 years to get ready. He needs to develop some power in the minors before we start thinking about him as a starting 1B in Atlanta.
Interesting that Shelley Duncan is now a free agent. Seems like he could possibly be one of those late bloomers that could help someone. Cheap pickup for the Braves in the OF? Just a thought.
Great food and terrible football ahead today…might be back when the “out-laws” get on my nerves at some point.
November 26th, 20099:19 am
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November 26th, 20099:26 am
Happy Thanksgiving DOB and all you great Braves fans. May the good Lord continue to bless you and GO Braves.
Thanks Wren in advance for a big deal?
November 26th, 20099:33 am
Has LaRoche or Bay avereged .300 BA 35 HR and 125 RBI per year for 4 years in a row. NO, Bay had 1 good year and LaRoche has never, repeat never done this, and is only a Type B. Since Cabrera is not caucasian, his reported attitude is simply histrionics.
November 26th, 20099:36 am
I’d like to wish a happy thanksgiving to Greg Norton.
November 26th, 20099:39 am
Read your post again, and it is even more laughable. The good Lord will provide – Thanx Bill for the spiritual message while my country pays the Taliban not to attack the supply routes so Ahghan children can enjoy a Thanksgiving meal – Truley American.
November 26th, 20099:43 am
And a blessed Thanksgiving to former President Bush for killing all those Muslims in Iraq and making our great country safer.
November 26th, 20099:57 am
Have not heard from little George. Did he take a header back into the bottle?
November 26th, 20099:59 am
Hell, if I were him, knowing what I did, that’s where I’d be.
November 26th, 200910:01 am
eyeball kid-Happy Thanksgiving to you, too. Isn’t it a bit early to be drunk, though?
November 26th, 200910:05 am
We all get in way over our heads. So, if you look at the totality of the situation, Cabrera makes perfect sense for the Braves. He’s a lot less risky than electing a moron to lead the free world, especially one that didn’t even win his first election.
November 26th, 200910:06 am
eyeball kid-Pop another brew Dude and maybe you’ll actually convince yourself you’re not talking nonsense.
November 26th, 200910:08 am
Thank You, and Happy Thanksgiving to you. I hope you and your loved ones are well. Thank You for giving me a Thanksgiving pass on being liquored up.
November 26th, 200910:10 am
Do you know Tom Robbins?
November 26th, 200910:12 am
Are you also preparing youself for the familial bliss known as Thanksgiving?
November 26th, 200910:20 am
Happy Thanksgiving Everyone!
November 26th, 200910:23 am
Happy Thanksgiving to you, too! Thank you so much for your service! You and all your comrades-in-arms are always in my prayers!
November 26th, 200910:32 am
I’m on a strict diet and I haven’t partaken of alcohol since 1986, so depends on what you mean by bliss. Will I enjoy being with my wife and enjoy talking to my Son ;later today? Absolutely. Will I be partying? No.
November 26th, 200911:07 am
Happy Thanksgiving to our blogmeister and all posters regulars and lurkers alike.
November 26th, 200911:22 am
You actually liked Smiley’s? — Cameron
Actually, more like “loved it.” That’s good eating, including the slaw right on the pork. That’s standard here in N.C., but I usually get mine with the slaw on the side. Didn’t think to ask there, and was glad I didn’t after it came and I ate it. Delicious.
November 26th, 200911:26 am
Nolie, that’s the same Dave O’Brien that starred in the cult classic “Reefer Madness,” right? Got that on DVD. Actually, I think it’s VCR (yeah, still got a bunch of VCRs — who knew that was going to be so thoroughly outmoded so soon?)
November 26th, 200911:31 am
Reefer Madness was on just the other night on cable. I noticed that there was a Dave O’Brien in it. Figured he was a bit too old to be DOB. Great satire. Too bad they were serious when they made it.
November 26th, 200911:43 am
DOB, I like Smiley’s,but I believe Monk’s is better,have you ever tried?
November 26th, 200912:04 pm
Derek Lowe and an okay OF prospect for Alfonso Soriano and Josh Vitters
Nate from NCState
Hey does anyone remember what the SOX, white ones of course, were offering 5 or so years ago for Andruw Jones? Who knew that he would have fallen this far so soon? Obviously neither the Braves or Chi-Town.
November 26th, 200912:16 pm
Nate from NC state-
Apparently no more than 3/30
November 26th, 200912:34 pm
Not to be negative, but….
The players that the Braves target this offseason shows that they are just trying to bridge the gap to the next generation players – Heyward, Freeman, Schaefer. In doing that, it shows that they acknowledge that they are gearing up for 2011-2012 and will compete the best they can in 2010 but realistically, won’t expect anything special.
Hopefully the pitching staff can carry them. I think the starters did great this last season, but it didn’t get them that much in the grand scheme of things. You can bet that Jurjens, Hanson, and Hudson will get hot and reel off 4-5 starts in a row each where they single handingly win the games. Still, it’s going to be the same thing this year. Pitchers pitch 6-7 solid innings. Relief takes over and gives up a run and they lose 2-1 or 3-2.
November 26th, 200912:40 pm
THe Mets are going to sign Holliday!
Coach (2011 or Bust)
November 26th, 200912:47 pm
Happy Turkey day to all and wishing everyone to stay safe on the roads during this holiday season.
Has anyone considered the possibility of Adrian Gonzalez? It’s a long shot but doable if a few things roll the Braves way. Should the Yankees and Red Sox make a run at John Lackey then the Angels would be in the market for another pitcher. Our Braves would still have to eat some of Derek Lowe’s current salary but the frame work for a three way trade would be in place.
The Braves would end up with Adrian Gonzalez while Lowe pitches for the Halo’s and the Padres end up with a boat load of five or six prospects, and the Padres could of course throw my man Luis Durango into the deal with Gonzalez. It’s far fetched at the moment but give it time, patience is a virtue.
November 26th, 200912:51 pm
When i think of the Mets i think of an injury waiting to happen. Please dont injur the few good players on the FA list. Players injured Reyes, Wagner, Delgado, Santana/ Am i missing anyone?. I think the Mets are Jinxed. Just go to your own forums, your probably the cause of the Jinx.
November 26th, 200912:53 pm
Mets2010champs; You may very well get Holiday, but that will mean, with your pitching, that you just lose games 5-4 rather than 3-2. You still will be looking up at the Braves and the Phillies!
November 26th, 20091:00 pm
TommyP; Like the idea of giving Shelly Duncan a good look, has good power and OBP, I don’t know about his defense or his splits. He would probably be a Diaz like guy and would be used in a platoon.
November 26th, 20091:58 pm
November 26th, 20092:35 pm
was it the vinegar coleslaw or the mayo coleslaw DOB? I have grown partial to the vinegar coleslaw
November 26th, 20092:40 pm
For a moment there, I was thinking that the eyeball kid and I were agreeing on something (his 10:05 post about electing a moron), then I realized he was talking about some other guy……..
Happy Thanksgiving. Be thankful for your freedoms, while you still have them.
November 26th, 20092:42 pm
Next-to-last in the nation in turnover margin. Next-to-last in kickoff coverage. Fourth from the bottom in penalties.
And maybe the most mind-boggling statistic of all: just one opponent fumble recovered all year. Tim Tucker
That’s about the most damning evaluation of Georgia football in forty words I’ve ever seen. How can players with that much athletic ability be that bad, and 100th or so out of 105 is abysmal?
November 26th, 20093:11 pm
yup, same O’Brien. He was in a bunch of stuff and was a writer too as Dave Barclay. also was billed as Dave “Tex” O’Brien in some flix, mostly the Texas ranger series with Tex Ritter. Tex dudes all over the place on those. Happy Thanksgiving.
November 26th, 20093:12 pm
(his 10:05 post about electing a moron) Wayne
you mean W ?
November 26th, 20095:01 pm
eyeball KID: You’re probably passed out by now but my first point on Cabrera was that he’s not a fit for the Braves. We’re not giving $21+ million to anyone. Maybe you don’t understand that. Scratch the “maybe.”
November 26th, 20095:07 pm
We’re not giving $21+ million to anyone. Tommy P
18 Wheels of Love
November 26th, 20095:15 pm
$100 if someone will come take my dysfunctional family members for a long walk off a short dock.
November 26th, 20096:59 pm
If you ask me, the only thing – please pass the gravy – that makes sense for the – who has the stuffing? – Braves this off -season, and which would – that is the best turkey I have ever roasted – undoubtedly solve every problem the team faces, is – wait, let me start eating and then I will get back soon and make everything perfectly clear…
November 26th, 20097:30 pm
I wanted to know what all fuss was about, so I stopped by KFC and got some barbecue boneless wings and coleslaw.
You guys are WAAAAY over valuing each dish.
November 26th, 20097:32 pm
“Has anyone considered the possibility of Adrian Gonzalez?” Coach
Hmmm. Now that you mention it… Oh wait. Yeah. It’s been discussed a “couple” of times.
Welcome back Coach.
November 26th, 20099:01 pm
Hey where did VJ go? He was gonna come back and solve all the riddles of the Braves universe. Damn I hate it when someone gets your hopes up like that and fails to follow through. Prolly pickin’ up bad habits from CBF already.
Marc in FL
November 26th, 20099:05 pm
Hope ya’ll had a good Thanksgiving, watching some Pumpkin Chunkin’ right now, good stuff. Hopefully the offseason will be picking up now. Any bets on where Lackey ends up? I think the Mets have to pursue him, and if they get him our division looks to be tough all around.
November 26th, 20099:14 pm
nolie – sorry, got distracted – here it is – damn, dessert – I promise, it will become clear very soon…mmm – pecan pie!
(some people claim that there’s a woman to blame, but I know, it’s my own damn fault…)
November 26th, 200910:03 pm
Evening all Nice to see I’m being thought about even when I am not around…
Any bad habits VJ has, he picked up looong before he met me- as I am sure he will tell you, I am an angel, complete with shiny halo and accompanying harps
November 26th, 200910:15 pm
FYI, in general, military food is never that good. But every Thanksgiving, we get well taken care of. I give thanks to the Brass for feeding us.
I just hope I dont slip into a Turkey Coma sometime in the next twelve hours…..
November 26th, 200910:40 pm
Sure, like she said…
November 26th, 200910:41 pm
See? I’ve got him agreeing with me already
P. W. Hjort
November 26th, 200910:42 pm
Happy Thanksgiving, denziens et. all. Did anyone get adventurous and try to BBQ a turkey? I’ve never heard of it, but it sure sounds good.
Got a good video for everyone:
Julio Teheran Video | Scouting the Sally
Steve from OH
November 26th, 200910:54 pm
Really? Trying to rip people off on Thanksgiving?
Does anyone in the Big 12 know how to play defense?
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