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jeffrey d
November 24th, 2009
11:21 pm
I remember when Chipper was a rookie and all that. He just didn’t make that big of an impression on me
lol, I actually don’t remember Chipper being a rookie that much. Although I do remember the newspaper headline “Chipper the Gripper”
TnBrian
November 24th, 2009
11:21 pm
Roman Gal, I was 14 years old when Dye was a Brave & I can’t remember one play or one at bat he had with Atl. They obviously didn’t think much of him giving him up for Tucker & Lockhart who I guess were projected to be better than what they turned in to, but still.
P'cola Brave
November 24th, 2009
11:23 pm
It ended up being a mistake but at that time I don’t remember Dye being a superstar for us.
Nate from NCState
November 24th, 2009
11:25 pm
The only thing I really remember about Chipper’s rookie year is how Hideo Nomo won the rookie of the year award over him even though Nomo was like 38. Exaggeration I know, but still, it irked me.
Roman Gal
November 24th, 2009
11:25 pm
I was looking at Shorter College for a while… JJ4CY
Yeesh. Who in their right mind would want to go there?
Moe Berg
November 24th, 2009
11:27 pm
Jurrjens4NLCY–On your Sonny’s comment. While I would never rank it in a top tier BBQ. I understand the sentiment. I do enjoy it, or rather, my mother does, and so I end up having it a decent bit when back home.
On an unrelated point. I’m following the India/Sri Lanka cricket test match right now. India is batting very well after looking lackluster in the first match. (I know I’ve mentioned cricket on here before, which has fallen on deaf ears, but keep thinking that someone else on here must follow it.)
Roman Gal
November 24th, 2009
11:27 pm
Although I do remember the newspaper headline “Chipper the Gripper”
Chipper the Gripper? Haha…I’m going to miss newspapers when they’re gone. They’re so clever!
Joebrave
November 24th, 2009
11:27 pm
gIT sCHAFER OUTTA HERE!!!
Joebrave
November 24th, 2009
11:28 pm
HAHA jibbin ya Roman Gal!
Roman Gal
November 24th, 2009
11:28 pm
I can’t remember one play or one at bat he had with Atl. TnBrian
Me neither. The only time I ever saw him play for the Braves was on ESPN Classic in the 1996 World Series…I think it was just last summer.
brian
November 24th, 2009
11:28 pm
have a great trip DOB. I will have to make the drive to Smiley’s. I live here and I am craving BBQ. From someone who grew up in Atlanta but now lives in NOrth Carolina – Atlanta has nothing compared to North Carolina when it comes to BBQ.
Thanks again for “feeding” my hunger for Braves baseball
Roman Gal
November 24th, 2009
11:32 pm
Yeah…I’m also gonna move up to Philadelphia and buy myself a Victorino jersey at CBP… McFann
Don’t worry McFann, we won’t let you sink to that level. We got your back here.
nolie
November 24th, 2009
11:39 pm
The only time I ever saw him play for the Braves was on ESPN Classic in the 1996 World Series…I think it was just last summer RG
It’s not too surprising that you don’t remember him, that’s the only season he had with Atlanta. Played half a season hit 12 homers and almost never walked.Nothing to indicate how good he would become. Was hurt a lot the first few years after he left, so it took him a while to fet started. Has had 5 or 6 fine years, but has missed some playing time and had some mediocre years too. Even if he hadn’t been traded that year, it’s unlikely they would have put up with the injuries the next two seasons and kept him around, but you never know for sure.
Moe Berg
November 24th, 2009
11:41 pm
I hate it to see players with great potential that keep having injuries. Griffey, Jr., before he started having his, Kevin Brown, or even Mike Hampton come to mind. There are many of them. But still sad.
uga-brave
November 24th, 2009
11:44 pm
dye was also part of one of the most pivotal plays in the 96 world series. got screened out by the right field umpire.
brian
November 24th, 2009
11:54 pm
Moe Berg – that is part of what makes the Hall of Famers and career record holders so impressive. Talent, durability, and luck.
Moe Berg
November 25th, 2009
12:02 am
brian, I completely agree. Talent is necessary but by no means sufficient. Many people may have the talent but not the luck, the durability, and the drive. That is what is sad–someone with the raw talent but not the discipline to become great.
Moe Berg
November 25th, 2009
12:04 am
Damn. I keep writing this pith Hallmark card-like sentiments because I keep scurrying to the kitchen to check on the cooking.
Moe Berg
November 25th, 2009
12:06 am
pithy, not pith
nolie
November 25th, 2009
1:03 am
pithy, not pith Moe
are you lisping?
Moe Berg
November 25th, 2009
1:07 am
I believe, I am…perhaps a bit too much nipping at the scotch, while cooking.
Wiki
November 25th, 2009
1:48 am
Dye was called up from Richmond when Justice was hurt, I’m thinking around May ‘06. He hit a homerun in his first at bat. Nothing much else spectacular.
Wiki
November 25th, 2009
1:49 am
I meant May ‘96 of course.
Wayne in Utah
November 25th, 2009
1:51 am
Did a little catching up on the blog, but couldn’t read everything. Got hungry reading about Q though!
What’s up with this white sauce? I am a mayo guy. No mustard, except in BBQ sauce.
Jurrjens4NLCY
November 25th, 2009
2:04 am
I’m watching the cinematic masterpiece “Under the Gaydar.” The acting is so sad, it’s hilarious.
Jurrjens4NLCY
November 25th, 2009
2:07 am
I meant bad, not sad…
…oh wait.
Evan
November 25th, 2009
4:48 am
I remember when Dye was with the Braves he split time with Mark Whitten in RF, and I always like Dye more. I was only ten or so at the time though, so I’m sure it was only based on the games I had watched and not any actual statistics.
Bluestreak
November 25th, 2009
6:24 am
I remember sitting at Hot Wing Cafe in Riverdale and watching Dye hit a homer in his first at bat at Turner Field. At least, that’s how I remember it.
I always looked at Dye as the second coming of Justice, who I thought was the best when he was starting to come up (before the Murph trade) and I think the Braves gave up too soon on him. I put that one up there as one of the few Scherholtz miscalculations.
ncscoots
November 25th, 2009
6:25 am
I just want to pause and spread some thanks, since it’s the season to do so. Thanks to all my blog buddies here, men and women with whom I’ve been conversing so long that we’ve become friends of a sort, despite anonymity, and to the Notorious Crusading Everyman, for providing the forum and for his passion in administering it. It’s a heckuva place, and while I might get peeved and rant about some of its denzines occasionally, it keeps me coming back. Can’t ask for much more than that. Happy Thanksgiving, everybody!
10-80
November 25th, 2009
7:29 am
agreed Scoots. longtime lurker, seldom poster. But i enjoy this blog for the baseball, rumors, music, food, and humor it provides constantly. thanks to all.
Bill M.
November 25th, 2009
7:30 am
Put Heyward, Schafer & McClouth in OF and let them grow into the position. I’m tired of these washed up old players. Trade Lowe or Vasquez for some top notch prospects. Find a RH bat to play first.until Freeman is ready. The Braves might have a chance for the wild card in 2010 but 2011 will be the year.
Try Melear’a BBQ. Can’t remember if it’s in Riverdale or Fayetteville. It’s a family run business and have been in business forever.
CB
November 25th, 2009
7:33 am
DOB,saw you were going to Smileys while in Lexington,don’t know if you have ever tried Monk’s aka Lexington BBQ. I think it is better
Billy Walsh
November 25th, 2009
7:39 am
Bill M,
Totally agree. If the braves can’t sign Bay or Holiday (which they can’t)…why not trade a Lowe and use the money to resign Laroche, sure up the bullpen, and let Heyward and Schafer play.
Efrim
November 25th, 2009
8:09 am
Happy Thanksgiving, scoots! And to everyone else on the blog. And to DOB, for writing one of the best blogs out there. Much appreciated.
Efrim
November 25th, 2009
8:14 am
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4687981
Red Sox “after” Halladay. Also, a quote from Olney’s twitter:
Spoke with an executive who was told flat-out: Adrian Gonzalez is not available. Timing isn’t right; that might change before July 31, 2010.
I bet Adrian Gonzalez and Felix Hernandez stay put this winter. I expect Gonzalez to be traded at some point, but I think the price that they are asking for is too high for ANY team to provide. It’ll come down(slightly), next summer, which is when I think they will decide to deal him, provided they are out of the NL West race. I’d expect Felix to resign with the M’s, as well as Mauer with the Twins. So that makes Halladay the prime available player this winter, and I think the Red Sox are the best fit. This is great news for the Braves, because then you have two potential landing spots for Lowe in the Yankees and Angels. Lackey is still around, but I think the Mets may need him the most, so we’ll see.
CB
November 25th, 2009
8:27 am
What does it mean to have a blog like this to share our love for the Braves and the game of baseball? It truely is priceless- most of us before the computer age had only our immediate friends or going to a bar to share or going to the game. I came on board the blog one year ago and immediately felt like I was in the right place, a place where I could express an opinion and read others. I would just like to say thank you to all the friends I feel have enriched my life,and most of all thanks to DOB for his dedication to us. It is hard to believe the time he is willing to share with us, has to be way above his obligation to his job. Thanks to all.
Billy Walsh
November 25th, 2009
8:37 am
Efrim,
If the sox are going after Hallady you know that the Yankees are going to get involved. I think the Yankees have the talent to land him.
Poorbrave
November 25th, 2009
8:43 am
Happy Thanksgiving DOB. Have a safe trip and don’t eat to much BBQ and Turkey. Looking for better things in 2010.
Efrim
November 25th, 2009
8:45 am
If the sox are going after Hallady you know that the Yankees are going to get involved. I think the Yankees have the talent to land him.
Billy Walsh, I agree that they have the talent to land him, but the Sox have a better system overall, and more of a need, imo.
McFann O
November 25th, 2009
8:47 am
Roman Gal Don’t worry McFann, we won’t let you sink to that level. We got your back here.
Haha, thanks! I would never allow myself to do such a thing, either…I try to lead a clean life.
Poorbrave
November 25th, 2009
8:47 am
Excuse me…Happy thanksgiving to everyone. You are a big part of my everyday life, love you all even when we don’t agree. Gods speed to U all.
Braveheart
November 25th, 2009
8:47 am
And here I was beginning to think Scoots only knew how to celebrate Spanksgiving, with his daily scoldings of numbletards…….
Lew
November 25th, 2009
8:52 am
CB-Yeah, it IS a pretty interesting place most of the time. I’ve always felt that I could ask any question here and someone will know the answer-usually many more than one.
Hope everyone enjoys that turkey and BBQ this weekend. And don’t forget pie in remebrance of LeTwan and His Mama.
Richie
November 25th, 2009
8:57 am
I would really like to see the Braves go after Cabrera. He is the impact bat this lineup needs to balance things out. And he is the same age as BMac. Imagine the damage that could be done having him, Mac, and Yuni batting back to back to back, along with Chipper. I like that. I can understand the Braves attempting to be cost-conscious, but this is a hitter in the Albert Pujols mold. Not the same hitter because he does K 100+ times a year but his hits over .300, 30+ homers, 100+ rbi’s. Young, established, middle of the order bats like this don’t come cheap. Better yet, nowadays middle of the order bats aren’t cheap. This is the type of move Wren should make. 120 over 6 years, for the type of production he would provide is fine. Remember, he is 26 going on 27, so even when his contract is up, he’ll only be 32 and the Braves can let him walk or re-sign him. The cost evens out once the Braves start winning because more fans will come the more the Braves win. The Braves have been having a tough time getting a RH’d power bat to make up for the loss of Tex. This is that bat. They really should to make this move. Will give the Braves Big Cat- type Production.
dpelfrey
November 25th, 2009
9:04 am
Bowman’s latest talks about Marlon Byrd as a possible addition. If anyone thinks he’s a good option, I respectfully ask that you look up his home/away splits since he’s been in Texas.
I hope we all agree that Byrd is another beneficiary of playing in Arlington and is not an acceptable option.
Efrim
November 25th, 2009
9:10 am
dpelfrey, I bet the Braves have interest in a lot of players at this point. I liked this part from Bowman’s article:
This need stems from the fact that Rafael Soriano and Gonzalez could sign elsewhere this winter. The Braves are expected to offer arbitration to both of these free-agent relievers, who have been classified as Type-A free agents.
Let’s hope he is right.
raleighbravefan
November 25th, 2009
9:10 am
DAB – going way back to your post at 3:58 yesterday –
I ate at the first Hardees on 10th Street so much while at ECU (1969-73) I got sick of it. Sadly, they had a fire and closed down several years ago.
Also ate some across the street at Little Mint, but it wasn’t great. It was next to a laundry mat that I used.
jeffrey d
November 25th, 2009
9:11 am
I wonder if Marlon Byrd does a cute little arm-swing like his brother Paul
raleighbravefan
November 25th, 2009
9:11 am
Should be DOB – Bad typo and proofreading
dmack2027
November 25th, 2009
9:12 am
Really like the idea of adding Mike Cameron. He might be getting older, but keeps himself in great shape and his numbers are very consistent. You can pretty much pencil him in for 20-25 homers and 70 RBIs. He is right handed, could be had fairly cheap, and would not cost much in the way of prospects or pitchers (like Swisher). On top of that, he would not be a defensive liability in whatever OF spot you place him in.
I think the Braves should offer arbitration to all three of their free agents. Soriano had a great year, and would be foolish to risk injury for a year of arbitration. His stock is as high now as it has ever been. He will take and get a multi year deal from a team. Same goes for Gonzo, though I hope the Braves bring him back. I do not like the idea of entrusting the closer’s position to an older player coming off serious surgery.
Lew
November 25th, 2009
9:15 am
Will give the Braves fits when he gets drunk and beats up on his wife-and all for just $20 million a year. How could we go wrong?
CB
November 25th, 2009
9:20 am
jeffrey d,if he does I hope he does it somewhere else. I would agree with what Bill M said,I don’t any more over the hill players. Give us a good player,or go with a combination of Diaz,McLouth,Heyward and Schafer. Let them learn on the job.
7
November 25th, 2009
9:24 am
Might fit right in with BC, LEW
raleighbravefan
November 25th, 2009
9:30 am
I’ll add my thanks to everyone. I have been a regular reader much longer than a contributor. Look forward to a new blog every time, and enjoy everyone’s comments. I love the different points of view, even the unrealistic and strange ones. I even tolerate Don – everyone is entitled to an opinion, and anyway, Bobby will be gone after this year.
DOB – You are teriffic. You loose me on the music (I’m an old fart), but I love the baseball and food talk, especially BBQ which is a passion of mine.
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!
jeffrey d
November 25th, 2009
9:32 am
I would agree with what Bill M said,I don’t any more over the hill players
In order to be over the hill you’d have to be at one point great. He’s never been anything special.
jeffrey d
November 25th, 2009
9:35 am
I try to lead a clean life. McFann
You mean aside from all the filthy language on the blog. Sometimes I feel like I’m talking with a sailor.
McFann O
November 25th, 2009
9:36 am
And Happy Turkey Day to you, Poorbrave and raleighbravefan!
CB
November 25th, 2009
9:36 am
agreed,jeffrey. I also meant some of the other names that keep coming up like Jermaine Dye.
Macon Braves (RIP)
November 25th, 2009
9:37 am
DOB–Thanks for the correction, glad I’ll get one more week of SOA anyway. I haven’t watched last nights show yet, gonna watch it when I get home today. I get off at lunch, but the wife and kids won’t get home until 6:00 or so tonight so I’ve got a couple of shows to kick back and enjoy in the peace and quiet that (hopefully) will be my afternoon.
So one more week of SOA, and then I’ll have to start the search for a replacement. One show I’m REALLY looking forward too, though it doesn’t start until March, is “The Pacific”. It’s gonna be on HBO and is produced and all by the same group that made “Band of Brothers” (Tom Hanks, Steven Spielberg,etc.). It’s (obviously) based on the war in the Pacific. Looks like it’s gonna be another fabulous miniseries for HBO. It’s about time they came up with another good series, other than Curb Your Enthusiasm this season, HBO miniseries have been very disappointing the last few years for me.
MoBrave
November 25th, 2009
9:38 am
If it’s impossible to find a 40 hr guy to stick in the middle of the lineup, wouldn’t it make sense to find a couple of 20-25 hr guys — one at 1B and one in the OF? Resign LaRoche and get a 20-25 guy for left, find a closer and let’s play ball!
raleighbravefan
November 25th, 2009
9:39 am
dmack, Lew, and CB – agree with all af you. We don’t need to bring in a highprice, highrisk for problems guy with a long high $ contract. (for long high $ contracts see Lowe).
Cameron is a good fit, or resign Roachy. Give the young talent a chance in the outfield. Try to trade Lowe, and use the money on Raochy and bullpin.
jeffrey d
November 25th, 2009
9:43 am
Yeah CB, we have to remember that these rumors are just rumors. Some people talk and act like Wren is laboring over these decisions and doing whatever he can to sign Cameron or Dye with the biggest contract possible. I trust him.
Macon Braves (RIP)
November 25th, 2009
9:50 am
I’m kinda digging the thought of Cameron being brought in now. He would fit in nicely in the OF mix. He can play CF and let McLouth slide over to LF. Plus, if Heyward or Schafer come up and prove they belong in the majors (I know some have given up on Schafer, but I’m not one of those), Cameron would be a great veteran presence(sp?) in the OF to bring them along. And hopefully, being a veteran, he wouldn’t mind taking a few extra days off from time to time to give the kids some playing time.
Don
November 25th, 2009
9:50 am
David:
Obviously Bobby Cox is under contract for the 2010 season. But this does not mean that they could not buy out his contract and him be replaced. Nor does it mean that this is not the most obvious, most pressing, and most significant way in which the team could be improved. Yet the Braves plan, fret, worry over possible trades, free agent signings etc. – and yet ignore the thing that would have more impact than any possible additios of players. Granted it is not going to happen. But my point is that they ignore the simple best way to improve that would cost very little and pursue other possible options that would not be nearly as significant.
CB
November 25th, 2009
9:50 am
raleighbravefan,to clarify my feelings,I don’t have a problem with spending the money on a productive player like Bay or Cabrera. I just would rather not spend money on mediocre players when we can fill the positions with prospects who could be developing.
AndyC
November 25th, 2009
9:56 am
DOB
My Mom is from Asheville, NC and there is a great BBQ place there. I can’t think of the name of it. Pulled pork is great and the hush puppies are to die for.
O.J.
November 25th, 2009
9:57 am
Mike Cameron seems like he is the type of player that has to play everyday in order to be consistent. I dont think he is the platoon type of player cause he could easily get rusty. But I could be wrong.
6-4-3
November 25th, 2009
9:58 am
I don’t think we should give up on Schafer. He’s got talent and will probably turn out to be a Sizemore-lite type player in a year or two.
Don’t want to see him pulling that off for another team, that would be painful.
raleighbravefan
November 25th, 2009
10:06 am
CB – I agree compleatly.
Don – We disagree, but it doesn’t matter. The braves org. loves Bobby, and he isn’t going anywhere in 2010. Why dwell on it?
jeffrey d
November 25th, 2009
10:09 am
Nobody’s giving up on Schafer except for the loony bloggers.
ugaaccountant
November 25th, 2009
10:14 am
I don’t even see Miguel as a high risk guy. As shown yesterday, the day after his late night drinking/domestic dispute, he had a great game. Everyone says he has a reputation as a drinker and it hasn’t affected his game, even after being on a huge contract. The guy is set for life and he went out and had another MVP contending season!
Plus he’s young and plays a relatively safe position as far as injuries.
His money’s very high, but that’s the price of a real cleanup hitter these days. We made a big mistake with Tex, let’s fix that if the price is as low as the media is currently assuming.
If the Red Sox version of the trade is Clay Bucholz, etc., but the Red Sox are more likely to use him to fix a more pressing need in Roy Halladay, then we can certainly come up with something for Cabrera. Same story for Adrian Gonzalez if he signs an extension before hand, whichever comes cheaper in terms of prospects given.
raleighbravefan
November 25th, 2009
10:14 am
jeffrey d – Agree. Schafer still has great potential. Much of his problems came from injured wrist. Matuity is also a factor. Both problems should work themselves out.
I don’t like giving up young talent ever, but prospects are just that. You have to weigh thier potential and cost vs. known value of veterans. I don’t like high priced old guys.
ugaaccountant
November 25th, 2009
10:21 am
I like Schafer more than many of these veteran of’s discussed. I’d so rather spend a lot on a stud and use Schafer than have two old, declining mid-salary players and Schafer in the minors. A superstar like Miguel Cabrera and a speedy CF has way more impact on a game (and on attendance) than say Jermaine Dye + Nick Johnson.
Macon Braves (RIP)
November 25th, 2009
10:22 am
OJ–don’t know if you were refering to my post about Cameron taking a few extra days off during the year or not, but if so, I wasn’t talking platoon. I was saying rather than him playing 150 or so games, hopefully he wouldn’t be upset only playing 130 or so games (health problems of course could make that less and my point would be moot) and giving another 20 or 30 games from CF to get the kids some time. Heyward obviously wouldn’t be playing CF so I guess it actually wouldn’t matter for his playing time if he was on the major league roster. But if Schafer were on the big league roster, he can play all three outfield spots at any time, so those other 20 or 30 games open in CF would allow him to get more at bats over the season. I certainly wouldn’t want to see him sitting the bench all the time if he was in Atlanta, if that was the case I think Gwinnett would be the better place for him to be.
Mitchie-san
November 25th, 2009
10:22 am
“You mean aside from all the filthy language on the blog. Sometimes I feel like I’m talking with a sailor.” –jeffery d
Sometimes you are.
10
November 25th, 2009
10:30 am
6 years, $120 million for Cabrera coming off the drunken incident.
8 years, $120 million for Chipper coming off of the Hooters incident.
6 years, $75 million for Andruw coming off the Gold Club incident.
15 years of contracts for Bobby Cox after the domestic violence incident.
Miguel Cabrera hasn’t cornered the market on drunken, immature, reckless behavior with women.
McFann O
November 25th, 2009
10:35 am
jeffrey d You mean aside from all the filthy language on the blog. Sometimes I feel like I’m talking with a sailor.
Mitchie-san–
So are you in the Navy? My Dad’s parents were in the Navy (pretty sure Grandpa was…).
VaBraveFan
November 25th, 2009
10:48 am
I dont know about yall but i’m getting hungry lol
jeffrey d
November 25th, 2009
10:48 am
And you think they’re stupid on this blog. From Mark Bradley’s UGA/Tech story:
give me a break if you think that georgia is history i know where their is a brain doctor i can sent you to they will be back they don.t say to long you much be stuiped
McFann O
November 25th, 2009
10:51 am
jeffrey d–
raleighbravefan
November 25th, 2009
10:52 am
10 – All true, but there were no repeates with the other guys. Cabrera seems to be a repeat offender. I would need some reasurance that he has cleaned up his act before even considering him. We’re talking about a major $$ long-term commitment.
jeffrey d
November 25th, 2009
10:54 am
I dunno. There’s no way you can type “much be stuiped” while meaning “must be stupid,” look at it, and say “well that makes sense.”
I’d like to say that it’s either a joke or he’s drunk. But 1) That’s too precisely stupid to be a joke, and 2) It’s a little early to be drinking. Maybe he is just stuiped.
Norton2010
November 25th, 2009
10:57 am
Braves Lineup should be…
CF Nate McLouth
1B Martin Prado
3B Chipper Jones
C Brian McCann
SS Yunel Escobar
2B Kelly Johnson
LF Matt Diaz
RF Ryan Church
Now that’s an awesome lineup. Think we can get any of those guys.
McFann O
November 25th, 2009
10:58 am
jeffrey d There’s no way you can type “much be stuiped” while meaning “must be stupid,” look at it, and say “well that makes sense.”
That’s what I was thinking…maybe it’s a 5 year old?
Maybe he is just stuiped.
Norton2010
November 25th, 2009
11:00 am
To be honest it probably wouldn’t be a bad lineup. A whole season without Loaf, Frenchy, and Schaffee’s wrist injury equals playoffs. And hopefully Kelly would bounce back. If he doesn’t you can always resign they great switch hitting Greg Norton and plug him into first and move Prado back to second.
Norton2010
November 25th, 2009
11:02 am
I meant the not they. How am I going to replace DOB as the Braves beat writer if I can’t even get my spelling correct?
TnBrian
November 25th, 2009
11:04 am
Norton2010 is Bobby Cox posting here today. “GO GET ‘EM KELSTER”!!! Seriously, Cox would definitely approve that lineup, no question about it.
Bobby
November 25th, 2009
11:06 am
Norton2010: Don’t forget you have Infante to spell Kelly if need be.
Lew
November 25th, 2009
11:08 am
7-Apparently BC’s episode was a one time thing. Cabrera is starting to make a habit of the drinking and assorted extracurriculars. BC also is not making $20-22 mil per year for the next six years, either.
I’m not one to condone domestic violence, having never hit my wife in 35 years, but let’s put things in a bit of perspective here. One was an older guy who hadn’t done something like this before or since (that we know about) that likely lashed out in a frustrated moment. Cabrera is apparently just getting started on his learning curve and couldn’t even restrain his partying long enough to show up in decent shape for the biggest game of his career.
Fischerking04
November 25th, 2009
11:09 am
Lots of festivity in the air. Reminds me of the line of King of the Hill when Hank asks John Redcorn if his people celebrate Thanksgiving and he says “We did…..once.” Funny stuff.
I am hoping for Mike Cameron based on his FA status, likely very affordable price and willingness to take a 1 year deal, but most importantly his consistancy. Our line-up could use that for sure.
Cabrera is a nut case. I don’t want to give up anything for him and then pay him a king’s ransom to play here. I’d rather have guys that you don’t have to worry when they will get in trouble next.
Norton2010
November 25th, 2009
11:09 am
Bench could be
C Dave Ross
1B Barbaro Canizares
IF Brooks Conrad
OF Gregor Blanco
UT Omar Infante
Lew
November 25th, 2009
11:14 am
I sure as hell hope our bench is better than that. Blanco and Conrad? Wow. I’m overwhelmed.
Lew
November 25th, 2009
11:14 am
Not to mention Canizares. Surely we can do much better than that for a bench?
jeffrey d
November 25th, 2009
11:16 am
But remember Conrad’s first 30 ABs? He’s magical
DAP
November 25th, 2009
11:19 am
its certainly not the worst team ive ever seen, but it surely wont get us into the playoffs. the good thing is, the braves have plenty of resources and options to improve the team for 2010. i think we have a chance to be one of the best teams in the majors next season, if everything goes right.
RHR
November 25th, 2009
11:20 am
Oh look. A new member of the KJ club.
Lew
November 25th, 2009
11:21 am
jeffrey d-Give me a freaking break Dude. Conrad ended up with a ML total of .192, .234OBP and a slg% of .356. His first 30 AB’s? He ended up with 77 for his entire career and didn’t hit any more HR’s and still has a sub Mendoza BA, OBP and SLG.
Canziares has a .190, .190, .238 record in 21 PA.
Both of these players are 30 something never weres and will remain never will bes.
18 Wheels of Love
November 25th, 2009
11:22 am
Hooters incident? What, did Chipper hold up a Hooters or something? If she had worked at the Varsity would it have been known as The Varsity incident? I’m just wondering. And didn’t Darren Daulton have a Hooters incident? I kind of remember him being in the outfield and her actually being on the outfield wall billboard.
jeffrey d
November 25th, 2009
11:23 am
Oh look. A new member of the KJ club.
We’re about to get jackets and cool ID badges.
jeffrey d
November 25th, 2009
11:24 am
…I wasn’t serious about Conrad