When tryptophan wears off, Braves offseason should perk up

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P. W. Hjort

November 24th, 2009
4:42 pm

Hanson, Hudson, Jurrjens, Vazquez, McCann, Yunel, Chipper, McClouth, Schafer, Heyward, Freeman, Kimbrel, Minor, Rohrbough and I suppose Lowe in no particular order.

You only have to protect players on the 40-man roster. Heyward, Freeman, Kimbrel, Minor, and Rohrbough don’t count.

Nick

November 24th, 2009
4:43 pm

Braves will be horrible again next season.

Marc in FL

November 24th, 2009
4:46 pm

I understand your point DAP, I’m not really even argueing with you, lol. I just think there are several options for a #4 hitter that are better than McCann. The stats I provided aore ideal, no a requirement.

If you’re telling me that having Prince Fielder bat 4t’h would not have been an upgrade over McCann last year, simply because the Brewers didn’t make the playoffs, well I don’t know what to say. Aim high.

In fact, without looking at the stats (which may come back to bite me but I’m in a hurry, lol) here are some guys I’d take in the 4th hole in Brave’s line-up over McCann

Fielder
Puljos
A-Rod
Tex
D. Lee
C. Lee
Miggy C.
Adrian G.
Andre Ethier
Ryan Braun
Matt Holiday
Jason Bay
Nick Markakis
Panda
Joe Mauer (sp?)
Justin Morneau (sp again? lol)
Adam Lind
Aaron Hill
Torri Hunter
Carlos Pena (bad year with the .AVG, but for 2010 I would in a heart beat)
Kendry Morales
Adam Dunn
Ryan Zimmerman (yes, the Nats have TWO guys that are better clean-up hitters than McCann)
C. Beltran
Joey Votto
Evan Longoria

And probably 10 or more, but I really have to go. And that’s without even thinking about it dude, I’ll be back later if you want to debate these, but I think it’s clear that you took the whole thing a little too literal.

RC

November 24th, 2009
4:48 pm

Assuming only players on the 40-man roster have to be protected….

Chipper, McCann, Jurrjens, Hanson, Yunel, McLouth, Hudson, Vazquez, Schafer, Prado, Moylan, Medlen, Kawakami, Diaz, O’Flaherty. (although not sure on those last 3)

RC

November 24th, 2009
4:48 pm

Danggit! Replace Diaz with Infante.

Brandon

November 24th, 2009
4:52 pm

Pwhjort, the question asked by Jurrjens4 NLcy young said within the organization so thats what I posted. MYB

Moe Berg

November 24th, 2009
4:52 pm

Jurrjens4NLCY–Thanks for the tip. Don’t make it out to Schaumburg much but will make the trip for BBQ.

NCmike

November 24th, 2009
4:53 pm

Anyone think that the Braves got a little extra satisfaction in getting Abreu from the Royals? Still maybe some “bad blood” between the two with the Cuevas thing a while back?

Marietta Derek

November 24th, 2009
4:55 pm

Daslied

November 24th, 2009
4:59 pm

Beekay – Brad Miller. Yeah, I cheated. :)

DAP

November 24th, 2009
5:01 pm

marc in FLThe stats I provided aore ideal, no a requirement.

well heck, wouldnt it be ideal to have the player you described batting in every slot in the order?

it seems like some people just dont think mccann can bat 4th, and they dont really have a great reason.

so then you list a bunch of names, which i also have an issue with. folks want to name players they think would be good…but why do you think they would be so good? because you like thier names? give me STATS that you want from there, and when you do, ill show you how unrealistic your being, like i did.

by the way, mccann actually out hit a couple of guys you listed. also, a bunch of the guys you listed arent cleanup hitters, and only 2 of them meet the requirements you listed earlier.

McFann O

November 24th, 2009
5:02 pm

Roman Gal It’s just the first step. Before you know it, you’ll be changing your name to McFlauer and spouting off Mauer stats like they’re second nature!

Yeah…I’m also gonna move up to Philadelphia and buy myself a Victorino jersey at CBP…

10Paul Bogus. Russ Martin all the way.

Who are you, Clint Hurdle?

Jurrjens4NLCY

November 24th, 2009
5:02 pm

Thanks for the tip. Don’t make it out to Schaumburg much but will make the trip for BBQ.

My brother used to work there, Champs, Weber Grill, Uncle Julios, the works…

Marietta Derek

November 24th, 2009
5:04 pm

Do the DP 2 C dance!!

Double pits to chesty is hot!!

Jurrjens4NLCY

November 24th, 2009
5:05 pm

You only have to protect players on the 40-man roster. Heyward, Freeman, Kimbrel, Minor, and Rohrbough don’t count.

I don’t think so, I think the expansion draft included all in the organization…

I might be wrong though

Jurrjens4NLCY

November 24th, 2009
5:06 pm

Rules of the expansion draft:
* For the first round, 15 players from the rosters of their entire organization—both their 40-man roster, plus all minor league affiliates.
* Each team could add three more players to its protected list after each round.
* In addition to the above, players chosen in the 1996 and 1997 amateur drafts were automatically protected, plus players who were 18 or younger when signed in 1995.

So RC & Brandon, it’s all the entire organization…

Chopshop

November 24th, 2009
5:07 pm

What does everyone think about this trade idea ? Lowe to LAA to ATL Fuentes and Brandon Wood. Lowe would make up for the expected departure of Lackey. LAA can’t be that thrilled with the job Fuentes did in the American League. He was better in the NL and only has one year left on his deal. They don’t have a spot open for Wood and Scioscia def isn’t in love with him by how much he has been jerked around in AAA and the majors.

This trade feels a need for both teams. LAA gets a durable starter that is comparable to Lackey with better health record, older, and less total $ committement. Atl get a one year rental closer that doesn’t have great stuff but usually gets the job done and an exciting player with power in Brandon Wood.

wjones

November 24th, 2009
5:13 pm

DOB, are any of the 40-man roster guys out of options? The only ones, off the top of my head, that I could think might be would be Jo-Jo Reyes, Brandon Jones, maybe Sammons, maybe Blanco? Am I missing anyone? Thanks.

Piedmont Blues

November 24th, 2009
5:13 pm

Happy Thanksgiving, DOB and denizens –

Celebrated my 30th reunion at Carolina earlier this month (the gridiron Heels beat Dook) and Parker’s was one of the places that catered the barbecue.

I prefer Bill’s, myself.

Clyde Cooper’s in Raleigh is pretty awesome, too, and they can now call themselves the Official Eastern N.C. Barbecue Provider for U2 (funny story).

Jurrjens4NLCY

November 24th, 2009
5:14 pm

If the Mets got Halladay, not damn likely, Is he their Ace? or is Santana?

P. W. Hjort

November 24th, 2009
5:16 pm

Is that the real MD or an impostor?

By the way, I wonder if the real MD is still locked up in Philly…..

McFann O

November 24th, 2009
5:18 pm

Marc in FL The fact that he doesn’t know how to situational hit hurts him for now, but is less of an issue every year.

Excuse me? He doesn’t know how to…hmm…OK. Not entirely sure where you dug that one up…unless you’re talking about his “late and close” numbers. 8O

McCann is turning out to be a pull happy low 20’s HR guy

Oh yeah…darn! Who wants a catcher that only hits about 20 homers? Boy is that a gip…We oughta make him a pitcher with that bat.

…that might as well just sit back and watch against left-handers.

That was just this year, dude. You can’t go by one year–one year during which he was half-blind. Just a little unfair if you ask me…

This isn’t a McCann bashing, I love the guy…

Of course…but there were a few things that weren’t entirely accurate. I mean…what exactly is your definition of “situational hitting”? Just curious…because it certainly can’t be this…no offense…

beekay

November 24th, 2009
5:20 pm

Daslied
I guessed Mark Miller myself when I was asked.
Just read that Brandon Lyon is on our radar if Gonzo and Sori leave….not sure I like that at all.

MZ

November 24th, 2009
5:34 pm

DOB —–
Made my way through North Carolina earlier this year, and wish I’d known about all these great places to eat back then … instead, we made a stop in Cameron/Southern Pines and ate at some crappy Mexican place, don’t even remember the name … but, i’ll keep your recommendations in mind for the next time … incidentally, on the same trip, my girlfriend and I were looking for a place to stay between Augusta and Atlanta … much to our chagrin, there was ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!! … however, at some point we happened upon Lake Oconee … nice area, and lucked into finding a place to eat so late at night, That Pizza Place is the name of it, and it was magnificent

Moby Grape

November 24th, 2009
5:34 pm

If we trade Lowe we’d have 22-24M available for 1b if that’s where we found a special player like Pujols. Any team with 100M payroll could easily find room for a unanimous MVP Acct

Almost surely Isn’t going to happen. They have too many areas that need fixing to spend that sort of money on one player. Dream on, we will wake you when the season starts. :)

Soph

November 24th, 2009
5:35 pm

McFlauer! Has a nice ring to it.

:-P

Moby Grape

November 24th, 2009
5:38 pm

but I was under the impression it was more widespread.

probably is, after all there ARE idiots all over

Moby Grape

November 24th, 2009
5:41 pm

Replace Diaz with Infante.

I sure hope you’re kidding.

David O'Brien

November 24th, 2009
5:42 pm

Do they do white sauce at all in NC with BBQ? A buddy of mine today was claiming white sauce was unique to Alabama, but I was under the impression it was more widespread. — Sgt Pepper’s

I think you’re buddy might be right. Not in N.C. Or K.C. I can assure you of that.

BravesFanChris25

November 24th, 2009
5:45 pm

Can’t wait till Thursday.

I’ll be cooking Turkey over night tomorrow night and it will be moist and skin crispy :-)

It’s a recipe I got from someone at work. You only have to cook it on high temperature for 1 hour and then turn the oven off and it’ll cook through the middle of the night. There’s more details, but that’s the gist of it. I have to find the recipe to remember the details of it.

McFann O

November 24th, 2009
5:46 pm

Soph Has a nice ring to it.

Yeah. So does Benedict Arnold…

BravesFanChris25

November 24th, 2009
5:47 pm

I have a 3 ingredient BBQ Sauce that is pure awesomeness.

1 12 ounce Beer or Coke, 1 full small bottle of Ketchup and 1/4 cup of Worcestershire Sauce :-)

You can add onions or whatever, but that’s the main 3 ingredients. Just mix the 3 ingredients and heat it in a small pan.

BravesFanChris25

November 24th, 2009
5:48 pm

A friend of mine gave me that BBQ Sauce recipe.

Rob (from SC)

November 24th, 2009
5:48 pm

I don’t think the Braves are allowed to trade Mike Minor until 1 year after he was signed. I could be wrong

BravesFanChris25

November 24th, 2009
5:51 pm

I like to cook obviously ~_~

As far as targets is concerned. I’d definitely like to get Wagner for CL (I mean he carves up Braves hitters anyways ~_~, so why not?).

I think this Juan Abreu is a low risk high reward signing. Maybe he can figure it all out in ATL.

stynes

November 24th, 2009
5:53 pm

There’s a place in Decatur, Alabama called Big Bob Gibson’s that serves the white sauce. They use mayo as the base and that’s where it gets its color. If you try it with an open mind, it’s not half bad. For me personally, all the different kinds is part of the appeal of BBQ. I’ve eaten it all over the country from NC to KC to TX and most places in between. There’s a ton of variety and most people like what they’re used to – what they grew up on. I like some more than others but I really enjoy trying all the different traditions. All very unique and usually very tasty!

David O'Brien

November 24th, 2009
5:53 pm

Someone a while back was talking about how much they liked Freedy Johnston. Just wanted to tell you, while thinking about it, that if you haven’t listened to Slaid Cleaves and you like Freedy, you’re in for a treat when you do. They’re similar voices and styles, and both great songwriters. Haven’t really heard anyone else that sounds much like either of them, but they sure sound a lot like each other. (Listening to Slaid’s “Everything You Love Will Be Taken Away” album right now, is why I’m thinking about it. It’s his most recent one, came out this year.)

McCann Fan

November 24th, 2009
6:00 pm

Dave,

Whatever they are paying you, you should ask for more. Always a great column. I wish it was more often, but I am willing to put up with a bi-weekly blog when there is as much depth as yours.

My parents now live in New Bern, NC (from Kentucky) and we always vacationed in Emerald Isle growing up. Do you pass Wilber’s BBQ in Goldsboro on your way over? I remember it being decent.

McCann Fan

November 24th, 2009
6:03 pm

Forgot to ask if you made it to Robert Earl Keen Friday night at Wild Bill’s. Good show, and we were able to get right up in front of the stage.

The Road Goes On Forever………………………………

brian

November 24th, 2009
6:06 pm

Miggy Cabrera is not headed to the Braves. For the Tigers to eat enough salary for the Braves to be interested, they would expect Jurrjens and Freeman in return and that is probably just for starters.

BravesFanChris25

November 24th, 2009
6:08 pm

If any of you guys travel through Pensacola FL (I live in Pensacola), there’s a family BBQ place that has some good BBQ. May not be the greatest or the best ever, but it is pretty good BBQ. It’s called Johnson Family BBQ. They sell BBQ at a local Flea Market I go to sometimes here and they also have their own restaurant if I remember correctly.

TennesseePaul

November 24th, 2009
6:10 pm

Now, I haven’t lived in NC for more than four weeks, but the BBQ sauces I have had in that time have claimed to be Western NC and Eastern NC. And from that Eastern was Vinegar based while Western was Molasses based. But then the Molasses base was at The Pit in Raleigh. Not sure if they are attempting to start a new thing or what. I enjoyed it much better than the Eastern Sauce.

All that said I still favor Mid-Tennessee BBQ as the best. A small place outside of Ashland City, (outside of Nashville) has the best BBQ I’ve ever had. Just down right ridiculous good.

brian

November 24th, 2009
6:14 pm

Braves are also going to be hesitant to commit to long term contracts such as Cabrera’s. The Braves have to plan ahead to get McCann, Hanson, Jurrjens and Heyward signed long term. Those contracts will eat up much of the Braves money getting towards 2013-2014

brian

November 24th, 2009
6:15 pm

I am still a big fan of vinegar based cole slaw – NC style. I am partial to Country BarBQue in Greensboro. Stamey’s is also not bad either

Mike S

November 24th, 2009
6:17 pm

DOB and other Shield lovers; well we were about a year late, but my wife and I just watched the series finale over the weekend. I had always been meaning to get into the show, after hearing so many great things on the blog and from others, but never got a chance to. Finally, about four months ago, we rented season 1 through Blockbuster Online. After being hooked instantly, we blazed through the next six seasons via many 3-4+ episode nights. What a phenomenal show, and a brilliant ending. The whole last couple of seasons you were left wondering how they could possibly end this wild ride, but they pulled it off. I remember several days of comments on here when the finale aired, that I just had to skip over, since I knew I’d watch it eventually. If anyone wants to bring it up again now and reminisce, I’d be game. SO many great characters and amazing acting performances, but alas, no more Vic and Shane for me.

Random, this is where you step in and post a couple pages of DOB and everyone’s recaps, critiques, etc. from last year for me… ;)

BravesFanChris25

November 24th, 2009
6:24 pm

I too like a vinegar based coleslaw over a mayo based.

Here’s a question to you all….

For potato salad, do you prefer mayo or mustard based?

I like both, but I have to give the edge to mustard based.

MZ

November 24th, 2009
6:27 pm

DOB ——–
I’m definitely going to check out Slaid … you know Freedy’s got a new one coming out in Jan. or Feb., according to his web site

Jurrjens4NLCY

November 24th, 2009
6:28 pm

For potato salad, do you prefer mayo or mustard based?

Mary Rose please!

dogsbrekky

November 24th, 2009
7:03 pm

Dobi – thank you for the new bloggage

Happy Turkey slaying all of you American savages

In my country we only slaughter the ‘roos

TnBrian

November 24th, 2009
7:17 pm

NOTHING going on with this team except the signing off Tommy John Hudson & two crappy relievers,,, one is a has been & the other is a never-will-be. Wooooo, I’m pumped about the teams progress so far this offseason! How ’bout you?

Ok, that was my vent for the winter… feeling much better now. Call it what you want, but I can’t be the only one getting a little restless here.

VaBraveFan

November 24th, 2009
7:23 pm

TnBrian

Man lol the offseason is just beginning, Dec things will warm up

P. W. Hjort

November 24th, 2009
7:33 pm

Patience. If you build it, they will come.

N8

November 24th, 2009
7:51 pm

TnBrian, please tell me that you’d rather be a little restless than bitching about all the draft picks we would be giving up signing guys BEFORE teams have to offer them arbitration? As for trades? Trades are very rare before the December 1st deadline, unless it’s a deal that has been in the works for a while (like the Renteria/JJJ trade was a couple of winters ago).

Simma Don Nah!

TnBrian

November 24th, 2009
7:53 pm

VaBraveFan, I know that. I just get like a little kid gets a few days before Christmas this time of year with my baseball & the Bravos. I’m warming up to the idea of Cameron. I got a good feeling he could be the Vazquez of 2010 as far as guys being where they’ve always wanted to be & having career years…in the ATL. Who’d have thought Javy would be that good & he’s no spring chicken.

TnBrian

November 24th, 2009
7:58 pm

N8, no they aren’t. You saying trades are “rare” is a little bit too much for me. Do more happen in Dec. than before? Yeah, but I wouldn’t use the word rare. You left off Atlanta getting Vazquez before Dec.1.

TnBrian

November 24th, 2009
8:01 pm

Before I get blasted about the Vazquez deal, I’ll correct myself. It was in December when they got him. Thought it was right before Thanksgiving.

diamondlady01

November 24th, 2009
8:12 pm

DOB,Have you ever eaten BBQ @ Bums in Ayden, NC?

Marc in FL

November 24th, 2009
8:31 pm

DAP –

I’ll just explain this one last time – you want to aim for a hitter that will play most if not every game, hit 30+ homers, and maintain around a .300 AVG. This is not a set in stone requirement, but every club tries to get someone that has the potential to achieve these numbers to hit 4th in their line-up.

Here’s you’re clean-up hitter’s performance:

HR: 72nd in ML, tied for 33rd in NL
AVG: tied 76th ML, 34th in NL
OPS: 56th in ML, 26th in NL
OBP: 84th in ML, 43rd in NL

And Chipper Jones had the worst year in his career batting in front of him.

Those numbers are good, they say he’s a middle of the line-up guy, but he is not a clean-up hitter. His OPS is better than I thought, but it’s the only stat so much as in the top 30. This says nothing about McCann, it speaks volumes about the depth of the Braves line-up.

One last time: we need a real clean-up hitter.

Macon Braves (RIP)

November 24th, 2009
8:49 pm

I’ve got some really mixed feelings tonight…I’m PUMPED for some Sons of Anarchy tonight, but bummed that it’s the season finale. Any suggestions from anyone on how to replace SOA for the next several weeks until I can get over my withdrawals that are sure to set in?

Macon Braves (RIP)

November 24th, 2009
8:50 pm

And I love House, NCIS, Mentalist, and others, but they are way different types of shows and won’t be able to ease the ache of no SOA to look forward to on Tuesday nights.

RC

November 24th, 2009
9:04 pm

Jurrjens4NLCY,

In response to your 5:05 pm comment, here’s my updated list. Sorry it’s about 4 hours later :)

Chipper, McCann, Jurrjens, Hanson, Yunel, McLouth, Hudson, Schafer, Prado, Medlen, Heyward, Freeman, Kimbrel, Teheran, Minor.

It’s really hard to not include Vazquez, but given the conditions of using the entire organization, protecting a player with one year left on his contract doesn’t outweigh a prospect under team control for 6 years.

David O'Brien

November 24th, 2009
9:05 pm

diamondlady: No, I have not. And it’s been a long, long time since I’ve been in Ayden.

brian

November 24th, 2009
9:08 pm

any favorite places to eat in the Piedmont Triad (GSO-High Point-Winston-Salem)?

And Idiot

November 24th, 2009
9:09 pm

Bama’s Mark Ingram made the cover of this week’s Sports Illustrated. Will the curse kick in against Auburn or Florida?

Couch Tater

November 24th, 2009
9:25 pm

Quiet around here

November 24th, 2009
9:32 pm

Nate from NCState

November 24th, 2009
9:41 pm

Since people are throwing out favorite bands, I am really hooked on ROMAN CANDLE right now. They are a group out of Chapel Hill, NC. Great song writing ability, and great jams. One of my new favorites.

Wiki

November 24th, 2009
9:43 pm

My two cents….

The Braves are in a nice position with having the option of dealing one of two “innings-eating” starters. I put both Vazquez and Lowe as having equal value to the Braves going into ‘10…..except for the length of contract difference between the two. The Br
aves are fortunate to have three solid starters virtually locked up for the next three years. Given their upside, there is a good chance that Jurrjens and Hansen can be a #1 and #2…and Hudson gave enough of a sample size to them this past season to believe he can be at least a #2 on an average team (hence the new contract). In general, if a #4 can give you innings, you’re ahead of the game….which I think both Lowe and Vazquez can do in all likelihood. Obviously, Vazquez will command more in a trade but either way, they’re looking at a return of young talent and/or significant salary relief. I’m not sure what they do from there but they are dealing from strength and that’s good. I give Mr Wren credit…..I think he has been more agressive than JS to this point and has made some shrewd moves. I have faith in the guy.

trueform

November 24th, 2009
9:46 pm

And Idiot

November 24th, 2009
9:47 pm

Favorite band – Sons of William (formerly Joe Stark) The kids are awesome.

And Idiot

November 24th, 2009
9:50 pm

trueform

not bad

N8

November 24th, 2009
9:55 pm

“Before I get blasted about the Vazquez deal, I’ll correct myself. It was in December when they got him. Thought it was right before Thanksgiving.” TnBrian

Good thing you corrected yourself, and good thing I saw it. I was about to “blast” you. :-)

Perhaps rare was a strong word. But you know what I meant. Most teams with commodities to trade, are going to wait until the free agency period truly begins to make trades, just to assure themselves of getting max value, unless a team is willing to give up exactly the guy they wanted in return. Like Detroit wanting Renteria. Besides, as I said, it has been documented that Wren and the Tigers GM started that conversation long before that trade took place. So the deal was already in motion and that’s why that deal happened quickly.

There might be trades this week and after Thanksgiving has passed. But the real clock shouldn’t start ticking until after the 1st.

But panic away, my friend. LOL

deion

November 24th, 2009
10:00 pm

Where McCarver at?

GboroBravo

November 24th, 2009
10:06 pm

•Adam Rubin of the New York Daily News reports that Jose Guillen would be willing to waive his limited no-trade clause in order to be dealt to the Mets. The Royals have reportedly proposed an Angel Pagan-for-Guillen swap that would also see Kansas City include some cash to help the Mets pay for Guillen’s $12MM salary next season. Guillen hit .242/.314/.367 in 312 plate appearances for K.C. during his injury-plagued 2009 season, and it’s probably for those reasons that Rubin thinks the trade is a long-shot to actually happen

McFann O

November 24th, 2009
10:06 pm

Marc in FL And Chipper Jones had the worst year in his career batting in front of him.

Oh my lord…

Jurrjens4NLCY

November 24th, 2009
10:11 pm

RC,

Thats a good list, but Minor would already be protected, so you got one more pick…

David O'Brien

November 24th, 2009
10:15 pm

Mike S: I’m with you on The Shield. Miss that show a lot. Fortunately, Sons of Anarchy is just about as good (and almost as violent)….

Macon Braves: Tonight’s not season finale of SOA — it’s next-to-last. Getting ready to start it now … on dvr

David O'Brien

November 24th, 2009
10:18 pm

NateFromNCState: Good call on Roman Candle. I’ve got the Wee Hours Revue CD. Excellent. They put out anything since?

By the way, you know that was also the name of Elliott Smith’s debut album, right? Roman Candle.

David O'Brien

November 24th, 2009
10:20 pm

Brian, we’re planning to eat at Smiley’s BBQ in Lexington tomorrow on drive to Wilson. After that, it’s all Eastern N.C. BBQ for rest of week, Parker’s and at least one or two other spots in Wilson area. Gotta lay off the turkey so I can eat more Q this week.

DAP

November 24th, 2009
10:23 pm

Marc in FL, you have no idea what a “real cleanup hitter” is. You started by naming off some stats that are bench marks or should be attianable for cleanup hitters that are totally unrealistic and obviously unnessesary for a cleanup hitter. Then you listed 15 or more players you thought would be good cleanup hitters, a couple which didn’t even outhit mccann last year, and most of which didn’t come close to your bench mark that you quoted earlier.

RobU

November 24th, 2009
10:24 pm

Apparently Yunel wants to play in the Dominican Winter league. I wonder if the Braves will let him?

RC

November 24th, 2009
10:25 pm

Jurrjens4NLCY,

Hmm…tempting to say Delgado, but I think with the other young pitching he’d be expendable. Probably Moylan, since he’s under team control for 3 years at arbitration rates, although Kawakami is a close 2nd.

Jurrjens4NLCY

November 24th, 2009
10:25 pm

I know some of you Georgia native are gunna kill me for saying this but every time I go down there, I let myself go on Sonny’s

Nate from NCState

November 24th, 2009
10:31 pm

Oh DOB, man are you in for a treat. They just put out a new album in May and it is great. They came to State and played a concert, one of the best ones I have seen, and most of their stuff was from the new album.

“Oh Tall Tree in the Ear” is the album…

and that’s why modern radio is A-OK with me…

Nate from NCState

November 24th, 2009
10:34 pm

Oh ya, DOB. If I say I don’t know who Elliott Smith is, can we still be friends?

P'cola Brave

November 24th, 2009
10:34 pm

Marc in FL,

Yes the Braves need a true cleanup hitter, Everyone knows that. McCann is a #5 hitter. But ever since steroid testing has been more prevalent, guys that hit 30+hr are diminishing. To be honest there is really no clean up hitter that is realistically attainable for the Braves. Bay, Holliday are to expensive. Cabrera won’t happen. and A. Gonzalez is a long shot. Thats why I’ve said over and over he needs to build the line up solidly with guys that can hit 20-25 Hr.

P'cola Brave

November 24th, 2009
10:37 pm

In all honesty McCann will probably be our #4 hitter come opening day and if the line up is solid then I’m 100% behind it.

matt

November 24th, 2009
10:53 pm

i keep reading that the tigers are almost trying to “give” edwin jackson away.if this is the case why not go after him and then be able to try and trade lowe and kawakami? i think this would make our rotation even stronger and give us more money to spend elsewhere.

nolie

November 24th, 2009
10:57 pm

McCann will probably be our #4 hitter come opening day and if the line up is solid then I’m 100% behind it. p’cola

you mean that the cards turned down the jojo/kj deal for pujols? damn i thought that was a dun deal.
i’m ok with what you said too though

Roman Gal

November 24th, 2009
10:58 pm

Some of you understandably would like to know what’s going to happen, would like to be told point-blank that the Braves aren’t trading Vazquez or they are trading Lowe or they are or aren’t open to trading Jordan Schafer, etc.

I like how Schafer’s name is the only one that is bolded in this paragraph. It was a real eye-catcher for me.

18 Wheels of Love

November 24th, 2009
11:01 pm

Best band ever out of Chapel Hill is Hobex. Their album, ‘Back in the 90’s’, should be in the Smithsonian.

P'cola Brave

November 24th, 2009
11:04 pm

nolie, Nah they didnt except it. They wanted Brandon Jones to and Wren told em no deal.

Roman Gal

November 24th, 2009
11:04 pm

And speaking of guys that Heyward might have admired … how about former Brave Jermaine Dye, who was a Braves rookie in 1996 when Heyward was, what, 7? OK, so he probably doesn’t even remember Dye from that Braves era, but anyway…

I’ll speak for 20 year olds everywhere…I didn’t know that Dye played for the Braves before until I read about a bunch of people on here talking about how trading him was such a big mistake.

P'cola Brave

November 24th, 2009
11:04 pm

I mean accept. sorry.

jeffrey d

November 24th, 2009
11:08 pm

I’ll speak for 20 year olds everywhere…I didn’t know that Dye played for the Braves

Maybe I’m just an older 20 year old, but I remember him

Nate from NCState

November 24th, 2009
11:15 pm

Yeah I remember Dye as well. Ron Gant, David Justice, Ryan Klesko… all those guys.

TnBrian

November 24th, 2009
11:16 pm

N8, believe me, I’m not panicking at all. Am I anxious? Of course, but who isn’t ready for the real stuff to start this offseason? Unless he gets a multi-year offer to close at age 39 & another team has two type A free agent “closers” leaving, Wagner is a Brave next year. Makes too much sense for us. I feel sure on that. I’m playing O’Brien here.

I’m going to say it– I don’t like turkey. I can eat the sh** out of some ham, but turkey doesn’t do it for me. Not big on stuffing either. Ham, mashed potatoes, green beans, rolls & my mom’s macoroni casserole with a miller light is all I need.

Goldenglove002

November 24th, 2009
11:17 pm

Just read through the whole blog, and man am I hungry now. If only you could find good BBQ at my house…

This Juan Abreu guy sounds like he’s pretty similair to Kimbrel. Good heat and K’s, but command issues. Could be a pretty good pairing if they get the command problems under control.

Roman Gal

November 24th, 2009
11:17 pm

He really is the most underrated player in baseball. Efrim

Behind Jason Werth that is…

Roman Gal

November 24th, 2009
11:19 pm

Ron Gant, David Justice, Ryan Klesko… all those guys.

These people I remember. I don’t know why I don’t remember Dye, because I remember when Chipper was a rookie and all that. He just didn’t make that big of an impression on me, I suppose.

It’s a strange world we live in.

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