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nolie
November 30th, 2009
5:30 pm
that’s most stars not starts
richbrave
November 30th, 2009
5:31 pm
abwright
November 30th, 2009
5:06 pm
Braves’s announcing for the last several years makes me appreciate the team of Ernie Johnson, Skip Caray, and Pete van Wieran even more.
AMEN!!!!
richbrave
November 30th, 2009
5:41 pm
Uh-h-h BABE RUTH?
semiballcoach
November 30th, 2009
5:43 pm
n8
if they bring john sterling back i refuse to watch
David O'Brien
November 30th, 2009
5:43 pm
Just talked to Chip Caray, who told me the network job wasn’t his wish — or his strong suit.
“I came to Atlanta to do Braves baseball. I didn’t choose the network job; it chose me.”
Chip’s job description changed shortly after he returned to Atlanta and the Braves broadcast booth in 2005, following seven years with the Chicago Cubs. The Braves were sold and the number of Braves games on TBS and Peachtree was slashed in half from about 150 to 75, then to 45.
His job went from Braves broadcaster to a hybrid Braves/network position, one that he said doesn’t fit him as well as the single-team jobs that he prefers — the type of jobs held for decades by his father Skip and late grandfather Harry Caray, an iconic Chicago broadcaster.
“The business model that TBS chose didn’t present opportunity to do Braves baseball every day anymore,” he said. “Obviously they don’t have the inventory [of baseball games], and I’m better when I work more. That’s really what I wanted to do. At the end of the day, I’m happiest when I’m working and covering a team ever day….
“I’m appreciative of the opportunity I got to come back to Atlanta and work with my dad. That’s priceless.”
CB
November 30th, 2009
5:48 pm
DOB,did you ask Chip about the job opening with Fox or whether he had any future plans? I actually may be one of the few who liked him,just needed to calm down.
richbrave
November 30th, 2009
5:51 pm
BEAN STRINGFELLOW, didn’t he pitch here in RICHMOND for the BRAVES a couple of years? A VIRGINIA TECH grad if I remember correctly.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Can't We Keep 'Em Both?}
November 30th, 2009
5:51 pm
you must be misremembering JJ, Chase is an extreme hitters park.
Huh. Really? I can’t believe that. I just thought our Bravitoes raked there…
…. Thanks you ruining Christmas nolie!
did you write that blog on MLBlogs?
Yea.
njbraves
November 30th, 2009
5:53 pm
Chip Caray is a terrible announcer and deserved to be let go. To be honest, I didn’t think his father was great either.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Can't We Keep 'Em Both?}
November 30th, 2009
5:54 pm
DOB,
Any truth to that Bob Rathburn rumor?
Jurrjens4NLCY {Can't We Keep 'Em Both?}
November 30th, 2009
5:56 pm
I didn’t think his father was great either
BLASPHEMY!!!!
David..(Athens, AL)
November 30th, 2009
5:56 pm
I, for one, liked Chip, hope he does radio and Don moves to TV … not a fan of Don, richbrave, you are right he talks to much non-bases ball stuff
Jake W.
November 30th, 2009
5:57 pm
I wasn’t a big Chip fan but after losing Boog we now only have Joe Simpson who worked with both of them. Now we need someone for Peachtree(little TBS) and FSN/Sportsouth. I wonder if FSN/Sportsouth would hire Chip. I just know I don’t want the guy who calls the Hawks game with Dominique doing anymore baseball games.
njbraves
November 30th, 2009
5:57 pm
Everyone keep pretending the Braves don’t need to add a “big” bat. No problem, but when June rolls around and Mike Cameron is hitting .235, don’t complain. Some of you folks are delusional. Why would anyone ever pitch to Chipper when he’s going good??? We all know Mac isn’t the answer at cleanup, so who then??? LaRoche??Cameron??? Give me a break. How quickly some of you forget how difficult it can be for this team to score. Trade Lowe anywhere, and get the Tigers to pay some of the money owed to Cabrera. This team goes to the playoffs next year with Miguel Cabrera,.
nolie
November 30th, 2009
6:00 pm
Let me reword that:. Which entertainer has the most stars on the Hollywood Walk of Fame? The answer has some relationship to baseball.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Can't We Keep 'Em Both?}
November 30th, 2009
6:01 pm
nolie,
Ronald Regan?
CB
November 30th, 2009
6:03 pm
nolie,Gene Autry?
David O'Brien
November 30th, 2009
6:04 pm
CB: Chip’s going to try to land a job with one team, like he thought he had when he came here, before Braves were sold and his job became a hybrid network job that included only 45 Braves games.
He doesn’t like the network job as much, going from game to game. Wants to hook up with one team again.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Can't We Keep 'Em Both?}
November 30th, 2009
6:04 pm
Trade Lowe anywhere, and get the Tigers to pay some of the money owed to Cabrera. This team goes to the playoffs next year with Miguel Cabrera,.
The Tigers aren’t shopping Miggy, Now a Lowe for Maggs might work. He’d be a good cleanup hitter
Wayne in Utah
November 30th, 2009
6:05 pm
Marilyn Monroe?
David O'Brien
November 30th, 2009
6:10 pm
Speaking of Carays …
You all can go online and vote for Skip or Ernie or Pete (or all three) beginning Tuesday, when fan voting begins for the annual Frick Award that goes to one broadcaster per year and designates election into the Baseball Hall of Fame.
Go to “www.baseballhalloffame.org” for details.
Here’s the release from Hall of Fame, regarding voting on Facebook:
Online voting for fan selections for the 2010 Frick Award will begin at 10 a.m. EST on Tuesday, Dec. 1 at the Hall of Fame’s Facebook site http://www.facebook.com/baseballhall and will conclude at 5 p.m. EST on Dec. 31. The top three fan selections from votes tallied at the site during December will appear on the final 10-name ballot for the award. The 2010 Frick Award winner will be selected by a 20-member electorate, with the winner to be announced in early February.
Presented annually since 1978 for excellence in baseball broadcasting, the Ford C. Frick Award is given to an active or retired broadcaster with a minimum of 10 years of continuous major league broadcast service with a ball club, network, or a combination of the two. Fans will have the opportunity to select from more than 200 broadcasters eligible for consideration for the 2010 Ford C. Frick Award. Bios of each candidate will appear at http://www.baseballhall.org.
The final 2010 Frick Award ballot will feature 10 names, comprised of the top three fan selections along with seven other candidates to be determined by a Hall of Fame research team.
The Frick electorate includes all living Award-winners and five historians/veteran media members appointed by the Hall of Fame. The voting electorate consists of 20 members, featuring 2009 Ford C. Frick Award winner Tony Kubek and the other 14 living Frick Award winners: Marty Brennaman, Jerry Coleman, Gene Elston, Joe Garagiola, Ernie Harwell, Jaime Jarrin, Milo Hamilton, Denny Matthews, Dave Niehaus, Felo Ramirez, Vin Scully, Lon Simmons, Bob Uecker and Bob Wolff. The five historians and veteran media members also part of the electorate include: Bob Costas (NBC), Barry Horn (Dallas Morning News), Stan Isaacs (formerly of New York Newsday), Ted Patterson (historian) and Curt Smith (historian).
This marks the seventh year the Hall of Fame will include three fan selections on its final Frick Award ballot. In 2009, a record 145,138 votes were cast online, with former Cincinnati Reds announcer Joe Nuxhall leading all vote-getters with 19,547 votes. Former Expos announcer Jacques Doucet (10,282) and former Toronto announcer Tom Cheek (8,992) also earned spots on the 2009 final ballot.
nolie
November 30th, 2009
6:13 pm
Nope Wayne it weren’t Marilyn.
CB it is Autry. There are 5 categories and he has a star in each one. He also had the first record certified Gold. Good job !
BIOMASS
November 30th, 2009
6:14 pm
No more Chip Caray? Thank you, baseball god. On second thought, baseball god, why did you torment us in the first place?
CB
November 30th, 2009
6:17 pm
DOB,thanks. nolie, I’m just old enough to remember his movies,hah.
TnBrian
November 30th, 2009
6:21 pm
Well if they don’t want to annoy fans with Chip than why in the world would they bring in that Rathbun? Holy sh**… the definition of annoying is Rathbum.
About Chip Carey… I listened to him on the radio shows & he was a different personality than on tv. It seemed like he went out of his way to be a “homer” on the radio shows & be the opposite on tv.
TnBrian
November 30th, 2009
6:28 pm
I’m not bashing Chip anymore. I kind of feel bad for him because he just lost his dad & he got hammered by the media during the playoffs, now he’s being let go by the Braves. Enough is enough for me. Always remember how you’d want to be treated. That being said, I hope the next announcer doesn’t puncture my eardrum for a measly fly ball.
David O'Brien
November 30th, 2009
6:33 pm
The Chip Caray story isn’t posted yet, so here it is unedited:
by David O’Brien
Baseball broadcaster Chip Caray and Turner Sports parted ways on Monday, a move that was called a mutual decision but seemed in every sense a firing.
Caray had three years left on his contract with Turner, where he was the primary announcer on TBS’ Sunday games and postseason games, and Braves games on Peachtree TV.
The decision was influenced by harsh reviews for Caray, 44, from media critics and many fans following his mistake-plagued work in this year’s postseason coverage, a Turner official confirmed.
David Levy, president of Turner Sports, wrote in a memo to Turner employees: “Since the end of this year’s M.L.B. playoffs, we’ve had several discussions with Chip Caray regarding 2010 and beyond. Both sides have agreed that now is the right time for Turner Sports and Chip to move ahead on different paths.”
A Turner Sports spokesman confirmed the Caray decision, but said there would be no further comment from the network. The spokesman said there was no rush to find a replacement for Caray, and said that his Braves and TBS duties could possibly be shared by several broadcasters.
“The only comment I will say is, TBS treated me very, very well,” said Caray, a son of legendary Braves broadcaster Skip Caray, who died during the 2008 season. “I came to Atlanta to do Braves baseball. I didn’t choose the network job; it chose me.”
Chip’s job description changed shortly after he returned to Atlanta and the Braves broadcast booth in 2005, following seven years with the Chicago Cubs. The Braves were sold and the number of Braves games on TBS and Peachtree was slashed in half from about 150 to 75, then to 45.
His job went from Braves broadcaster to a hybrid Braves/network position, one that he said doesn’t fit him as well as the single-team jobs that he prefers — the type of jobs held for decades by his father Skip and late grandfather Harry Caray, an iconic Chicago broadcaster.
“The business model that TBS chose didn’t present opportunity to do Braves baseball every day anymore,” Caray said. “Obviously they don’t have the inventory [of baseball games], and I’m better when I work more. That’s really what I wanted to do. At the end of the day, I’m happiest when I’m working and covering a team ever day….
“I’m appreciative of the opportunity I got to come back to Atlanta and work with my dad. That’s priceless.”
Chip Caray started at Turner Sports in the early 1990s and returned to the Braves’ broadcast booth in 2005 after seven years with the Cubs. He hasn’t decided what he will do, but will look for another job broadcasting with one team.
BIOMASS
November 30th, 2009
6:35 pm
I never liked guys that get jobs based on nepotism. If I were to feel sorry for anyone, it would all the talented people that never get a chance because someone inept like Caray is blocking the way.
18 Wheels of Love
November 30th, 2009
6:39 pm
Seriously, Chip wasn’t that bad. I tuned in to watch the Braves play, not listen to someone announce. While there were times when I would raise an eyebrow at what he said, it was rare that he got in the way of me enjoying watching my team.
(Curb Your Enthusiasm reference coming up)
Having said that, I really enjoy Joe Simpson and Don Sutton and hope both of those guys stick around a long time.
rtrafford
November 30th, 2009
6:41 pm
Tiger ran off the road, hit and damaged a Publically owned Fire Hydrant and is thus subject to damages and Traffic violations. KeyLargo
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The community Tiger lives in is a private community. They own the roads and pay to maintain them. they are responsible for the maintenance of the utilities within their own property. It’s their land, commonly owned by each of the homeowners based upon their ownership percentage of the stock in the association.
Think I’m wrong? Try driving in. If it’s a public right of way they may take your name and information, but they cannot deny you access. Bet you don’t get in.
TnBrian
November 30th, 2009
6:45 pm
BIOMASS, yeah, but that’s not Chip’s fault. You know life is unfair. I’d make a good announcer, but that’s a whole other can of worms, so I’ll leave that for another day.
rtrafford
November 30th, 2009
6:46 pm
On Tiger, to put it another way:
The entire neighborhood is the equivalent of your private yard, only thaqt it is owned and maintained by a collective body of owners. Their “right of way easement” is out on the perimeter of the entire property of the association, and all within those limits are the responsibility of the homeowners association.
Tiger wrecked his car on “private property”, not on a public road.
BIOMASS
November 30th, 2009
7:04 pm
TnBrian, I look at someone in the public arena as fair game. They are on my screen, bouncing sound off my eardrums, either making my experience better or worse. If it’s worse, then I complain. Apparently, in this case, I wasn’t alone. It just took way too long to get rid of him.
10
November 30th, 2009
7:06 pm
Will Carroll Tweet:
Chip Caray once defended me when someone was yelling at me on the field at Wrigley. “For F**k’s sake, man, he’s doing his f**king job.”
http://twitter.com/injuryexpert
N8
November 30th, 2009
7:11 pm
Well for crying out loud. Now the Andruw story is completely gone! What if I wanted to read it again?
stamper
November 30th, 2009
7:12 pm
strangely, i’m gonna miss him.
salsify
November 30th, 2009
7:18 pm
Elin Woods for power hitter!
David O'Brien
November 30th, 2009
7:27 pm
Despite some off-record denials from Braves people, it sure sounds like the Braves have talked to Brewers about OF Corey Hart, as Kenny Rosenthal wrote several weeks back:
Today on SIRIUS XM Radio’s MLB Home Plate channel, Milwaukee GM Doug Melvin was on with hosts Jeff Joyce and Jim Bowden, and commented on the Derek Lowe-for-Hart trade rumors:
Melvin: “On Corey Hart and [Derek] Lowe, there was discussions in that. I’m pretty close to trying to hold those things in house but I think that everyone has known that, you know, if you look we need pitching and they (Atlanta) are asking for a young right handed outfielder so, you know, they do make some sense. So some of those discussions had taken place but I don’t see them coming to fruition.”
(that’s the transcription as provided to me by the station)
The rumor would make more sense if, well, Corey Hart could still hit. And maybe he can. But last season, he certainly did not. And in 2008 he wasn’t very good, either.
But hey, we’ve said all along that if the Braves trade Lowe, they’d be satisfied just to move all or most of his salary. If they can trade him, they’re not likely to get top young talent in addition to what would be huge salary relief.
keylargo
November 30th, 2009
7:28 pm
The community Tiger lives in is a private community. They own the roads and pay to maintain them. they are responsible for the maintenance of the utilities within their own property.rtrafford
I don’t think you are wrong, I know you are wrong. Do you think Florida Power brings the power to the gate and says “do what you want with this”? No, they come in and run the power down the street and into each house and stop it at the meter. Then they come back every month and read the meter. It has NOTHING to do with the Homeowner Ass.
Same way with the water. They run a main in and branch it off to each house with a meter which they come each month and read.
And the sewer comes out of each house to the main line in the front yard and then out to the sewage treatment plant.
The ONLY way it would work like you are saying is if the Association OWNED all the Power Generating Equipment, the water company, the sewage treatment plant, and the cable TV equipment
David O'Brien
November 30th, 2009
7:29 pm
N8, don’t really know what to tell ya about Andruw story. The Chip Caray story is posted now — on the main sports page on our website. Not on Braves page yet.
lavell12
November 30th, 2009
7:38 pm
I’d rather have Francoeur back than Corey Hart. It sounds like there were talks but from what Melvin says it sounds like that yes Hart is a right handed outfielde but from the quote it souds like the Braves dismissed Hart.
Mitchie-san
November 30th, 2009
7:42 pm
Corey Hart? That sounds alot like the Francoeur trade. Just get what you can for him…
Id be ok with it. Hart is still young and might be able to turn it around. What if it was Lowe +1 for Hart and Gamel? Hmm…
Moe Berg
November 30th, 2009
7:47 pm
Now we can have Corey Hart and still not have to hear Chip’s jokes about sunglasses at night.
KC
November 30th, 2009
7:47 pm
DOB, when I read that about Chip, I just assumed that he would be working solely on Braves broadcasts from now on. You think he could move on to another team??
While I thought his dad was the best in the biz, I’m not a big Chip fan, so it won’t break my heart… but after loosing Boog, that would be a lot of transition for one off-season. Though I never got the sense that Boog really considered himself a BRAVES announcer (as opposed to an announcer that just so happened to be covering the Braves)… I was bummed to hear that he’s leaving because he is an excellent play-by-play man in every sense.
Boog will be very difficult to replace. Not only is he a very good announcer, but I though he had a great on-air chemistry with Joe Simpson. I’m a little nervous about how the broadcast team will look heading into next season. The quality of the announcers can really affect the enjoyability of a broadcast!
N8
November 30th, 2009
7:49 pm
I’m just messin around DOB. I’m glad they took it down. I’m sure they didn’t do it just for me, but it feels good to protest about something and get a result.
Now if I could only get the state of Minnesota to let the NFL suspend the Williams boys, it would all be good.
On a serious note, is the arbitration offer clock at midnight tonight, or is it tomorrow sometime?
KC
November 30th, 2009
7:51 pm
I think the Braves need to made a hell of an offer to Pete to see if they can draw him out of retirement. Probably wouldn’t work, but I’d like to see them give it a go.
David O'Brien
November 30th, 2009
8:03 pm
Just so everyone knows, whether or not the Braves offer arbitration to free agents, they can continue to negotiate with those free agents after tomorrow’s deadline. In other words, if they don’t offer arb to Adam LaRoche, for instance, they could continue to negotiate with him. Or Gonzalez, or Soriano, etc.
If they don’t offer arb, they don’t risk getting stuck with bigger salaries than they want to pay, but also don’t get any draft-pick compensation from teams that sign those free agents, including Type A’s Gonzo and Soriano and Type B’s LaRoche and Garret Anderson (Greg Norton was an unranked free agent, so no reason to offer arb even if they wanted to bring him back).
David O'Brien
November 30th, 2009
8:05 pm
We’ll plan to get a new blog up tomorrow….
One other thing: If offered arbitration, free agents have a week to decide whether to accept or decline the offer. If they accept, they’re under contract with the Braves, in effect. If they decline, they’re free to sign with anyone.
lavell12
November 30th, 2009
8:07 pm
DOB
Gonzalez seems to be a lock to get arbitration offered, do the Braves offer arbitration to Soriano and LaRoche?
RC
November 30th, 2009
8:14 pm
In my opinion, the only thing that would hold the Braves back from offering arb to Gonzo and Soriano is if there is something sketchy in their medical records (which the Braves would know as well as anyone). If there is, then there is a legitimate concern that either player would accept arbitration and they could be stuck with an expensive DL slot. If not, I see very little risk that either player will accept arbitration, and certainly not both.
As for LaRoche, I figured they’d be sure to offer it this entire time, but with the way the market for 1st basemen seem to be developing, they might be better of not risking a high salary, and seeing if LaRoche will sign a 1-year deal at a lower rate (although I still think his arb price would be cheaper than getting his bat on the open market).
Bobby's Cox
November 30th, 2009
8:15 pm
I was reading the same thing about Hart lately. Hopefully either that’s not true, or the Brewers threw him at Wren and Wren declined. I mean, I would imagine we care mostly about a salary dump with Lowe anyway, but starting at Hart and working your way down, from a negotiation standpoint, how could you negotiate down from Hart?
brian
November 30th, 2009
8:25 pm
AS far as Wagner goes, I would assume that the Braves offer Gonzo and Soriano arbitration then if they do not accept, in 1 week start seriously talking to Wagner, etc
rtrafford
November 30th, 2009
8:27 pm
I don’t think you are wrong, I know you are wrong. Do you think Florida Power brings the power to the gate and says “do what you want with this”? No, they come in and run the power down the street and into each house and stop it at the meter. Then they come back every month and read the meter. It has NOTHING to do with the Homeowner Ass. KeyLargo
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The utilities are run into these development at the expense of the developer on property owned and maintained by the association. The developer pays for the electrical cabling, the transformers, et al. Same applies for water, sewer, cable, and telephone. These have absolutely nothing to do with ownership of the land and the roads.
The community is an extremely private development. The roads are privately owned. Some (most) developments have public roads and right of ways, and in those cases the guard gates cannot prohibit public access. They are there simply to monitor and record access for security reasons.
Windermere is an exclusive and private property. You cannot enter without permission or contract. The utility companies have contracts with the homeowner association and therefore have restricted rights for access to their systems.
You simply aren’t correct in your view, and my intent is to clear the record, not to argue with you on these points within a sports blog. Do some research, or drive up to the gate. Your choice.
I am quite qualified to speak on these details.
10
November 30th, 2009
8:32 pm
that’s a whole lot of talking about a fire hydrant.
Bravissimo
November 30th, 2009
8:33 pm
You mean the Bravos dont wanna bring the slugger Norton back?…lord have mercy
18 Wheels of Love
November 30th, 2009
8:36 pm
Bowman says Chip could return to Braves on a daily basis….how so?
Joe
November 30th, 2009
8:37 pm
what about Carl Crawford
10
November 30th, 2009
8:42 pm
Bowman says Chip could return to Braves on a daily basis….how so?
boog’s job?!?!?!?!?
Justafan
November 30th, 2009
8:53 pm
I’d take Hart to dump Lowes salary. That money could go to get RP, big bat etc. Hart could turn out to be come back player of the year. Who Knows?
TnBrian
November 30th, 2009
8:55 pm
Maybe they mean Chip could take that JJ’s job. Looks like you need the annoying meter extremely high for that job. Damn, said I wouldn’t bash on the man anymore.
brian
November 30th, 2009
8:55 pm
I agree justafan. My guess is that the brewers wanted the Braves to eat some salary and the Braves replied that they will eat salary if the brewers will add Matt Gamel to the trade.
Justafan
November 30th, 2009
8:56 pm
Private property—only owners dog can pi$$ on fire hydrant, right?
brian
November 30th, 2009
8:58 pm
any trade possibilities with the Tigers? The Tigers will want a young CF and the Braves can offer Schafer, or for the right player, McLouth
Justafan
November 30th, 2009
8:58 pm
Brian, I do that deal.
keylargo
November 30th, 2009
9:05 pm
rtrafford – I don’t know what else to tell you about how wrong you are, but you are. The utility companies keep access to their individual services and bill the user each month. That is how it is done. If you want to look at a very simple way to tell, look at a bill. It will be a Florida Power bill for the electrical, Comcast or another cable company for TV and the Municipal Water company. They also maintain their supply lines, not some private utility company.
It is a very common practice to deed the streets back to the city or county if the traffic is not to be restricted. This is a cost saving method for developers of subdivisions that are not gated. If they are a private, gated community, then the Homeowners are responsible for paving and maintaining the streets, which has absolutely nothing to do with the utility companies The goal is to keep out undesirable people, not water and electric.
BIOMASS
November 30th, 2009
9:07 pm
rtrafford, I hate to jump into this, but are you saying law enforcement needs permission to enforce laws in this “extremely private development?”
Wide Right
November 30th, 2009
9:09 pm
i hate to kick a man when he is down…but did anybody else happen to see Chip Caray’s twitter entries during the postseason? They were a great source of unintentional comedy and i hate to say it…but sort of reflective of his personality. Here are 3 of his TWEETS:
· This place is magic. I just was in a suite talking baseball and drinking Fresca with Yogi Berra, Darryl Strawberry and Cory Lidle.2:13 PM Oct 8th from web
· Correction: It was Mike Stanton. Cory Lidle is dead.2:14 PM Oct 8th from web
· Wow, I can hardly keep up with all the new people following me! Lot of pressure to do good twats! Tweets? Twits? about 2 hours ago from web
ziggy
November 30th, 2009
9:14 pm
Hey Dave O’Brien,
Mark Bowman says the Braves are likely to offer arbitration to Gonzalez, Soriano and LaRoche. Is Bowman right, or just blowin smoke? Thanks!
- ziggy
Wide Right
November 30th, 2009
9:16 pm
I hate to kick a man when he is down…but did anybody else happen to see Chip Caray’s twitter entries during the postseason? It was a great source of unintentional comedy and, I hate to say it, sort of reflective of his on-air personality. Here are 3 of his tweets (I have X’d out a letter to obscure his unfortunate blunder…but otherwise this is taken directly from his TWEETS):
· This place is magic. I just was in a suite talking baseball and drinking Fresca with Yogi Berra, Darryl Strawberry and Cory Lidle.2:13 PM Oct 8th from web
· Correction: It was Mike Stanton. Cory Lidle is dead.2:14 PM Oct 8th from web
· Wow, I can hardly keep up with all the new people following me! Lot of pressure to do good twXts! Tweets? Twits? about 2 hours ago from web
Steve
November 30th, 2009
9:17 pm
http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-braves/chip-caray-out-at-219885.html
Everyone read the updated story and tell me Chip Caray is not angling for the vacated by Jon Sciambi PBP job on Fox broadcasts.
TheThinkingMan
November 30th, 2009
9:34 pm
“I’m down for some Saito/Wagner action also.” Bobby’s Cox
mmmm, uh, you know, I….I, uh….. nevermind.
18 Wheels of Love
November 30th, 2009
9:35 pm
keylargo, I understand what rtrafford is saying and I kind of think you are saying the same thing just not so convincing.
David O'Brien
November 30th, 2009
9:39 pm
Ziggy: I’d say definitely, no question about arb off for Gonzalez, and very likely for LaRoche. Soriano, I’d say likely, but am not as sure about him as either the other two. I can see both sides of argument — Braves don’t want to be stuck with a potential $8 mill salary for him, but there’s very little chance he’d take arb because he’s going to get some multi-year offers.
David O'Brien
November 30th, 2009
9:41 pm
18 Wheels of Love: He could do a mix of Fox Sports South/SportSouth TV and Braves radio-network stuff, if Fox is interested in him as a candidate for Boog’s old job. Seems to me that would be a little awkward if Turner is paying him for last three years of his deal, but who knows what sort of arrangement might be worked out?
keylargo
November 30th, 2009
9:42 pm
18 Wheels – He is saying that the Public Utility companies are not allowed into Gated Subdivisions.
I am saying that they operate the same way as everywhere else with Utility easements parallel to the road where electric, water, cable, phone, gas companies run their lines. It has nothing to do with whether or not the street is privately owned or is deeded back to the municipality.
keylargo
November 30th, 2009
9:45 pm
18 Wheels, I was going to ask you the other day when you brought up some drink from long ago if you had ever had a Bludwine or Budwine? They were around the Athens/Atlanta area back in the 60’s
tdmorgan
November 30th, 2009
9:46 pm
What about giving JJ Putz an incentive laden deal. Guarantee the first year at 1 million with incentives and have an option year based on his performance this year. Before going to the Mets last year he was an amazing closer for the Mariners. The injury kept him out almost the whole year. If he is healthy he gives us another closer option but more importantly a power arm. Most of the best bullpens are loaded with power arms. Having a combination of Saito/Wagner/Putz and Kimbrel later on in the season hopefully gives you 4 power arms out of the bullpen and Moylan with a change of pace. One of the best bullpens that we would have had in a while.
Nick in PA
November 30th, 2009
9:49 pm
DOB,
If the Braves are able to trade Lowe and his salary, will that change any of their current plans for free agent targets?
18 Wheels of Love
November 30th, 2009
9:56 pm
keylargo, I wasn’t even a glimmer in anyone’s eye in the 60’s!
DOB, going to see the DBT’s TH night in Charleston, SC. Got an extra ticket….that bike of yours ever make it to the coast?
GboroBravo
November 30th, 2009
9:58 pm
DOB did you ever get a chance to see the trailer for Crazy Heart? What did you think?
David O'Brien
November 30th, 2009
9:58 pm
18 Wheels: I’d love to get over to Charleston to see it, but not possible. Got Braves stuff this week, SEC Championship Game (I’m on sidebar duty) on Saturday, flying to Indy on Sunday for Winter Meetings.
Gonna try to get to Billy Joe Shaver on Tuesday night in Atlanta, though…
Gborobrave: No, haven’t see trailor for that movie.
Anyone see The Road yet? I want to go this week.
18 Wheels of Love
November 30th, 2009
10:14 pm
The Music Farm is a great venue to see bands like the DBT’s. Had to get tickets thru jackdaniels.com which was weird but whatever.
Braves fan since '66
November 30th, 2009
10:17 pm
I think Chip Caray is a very good and able announcer. Given his background I can understand his desire to announce for a single team. I don’t really care if he made errors on broadcasts. Again, given his background (following Harry and Skip, it’s not all that important. he brings excitement to the game and I like him.
TennesseePaul
November 30th, 2009
10:19 pm
I want quaking fear from opposing starters the trembling shakes from opposing relievers; I want opposing starters suddenly getting “flu-like symptoms” and relievers suddenly “needing one more day”;
Fevered dreams indeed. Could be in for a long 2010 Scoots, unless Wren pulls a rabit out of his hat.
Couch Tater
November 30th, 2009
10:20 pm
Chip Caray taking Boog’s job would be great for DOB’s blog hits.
Wide Right
November 30th, 2009
10:26 pm
Honestly, Corey Hart for Derek Lowe straight up seems about right to me…especially if the Braves are committed to Hart for no more than a season. What is Hart likely to make in 09? About 4M to 6MM through arbitration? If the Braves could unload 40MM of Lowe’s salary and get a righthanded OF’er, a 20-20 guy two of the past three years…I don’t see how we can ask for more than that. And if FW is holding out for more than that…well, I look forward to see what hes got cooking.
I am grateful to this blog for teaching me about how arbitration works. It now seems to me like its often a game of high stakes chicken.
richbrave
November 30th, 2009
10:30 pm
If the BRAVES get the OF’er they want for either LOWE or VASQUEZ, they probably sign LaROCHE depending on how “Big” a bat it is. If really big, I gotta’ think LaROCHE comes back. If HART or some other lesser bat, maybe a deal is in the offing for 1B as well.
RHR
November 30th, 2009
10:34 pm
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TennesseePaul
November 30th, 2009
10:36 pm
Braves don’t want to be stuck with a potential $8 mill salary for him
I keep reading this but, isn’t the arbitration contract non-guaranteed? If so then the Braves wouldn’t necessarily be “stuck” with the contract. They could cut him before the season, right? That’d probably impact the draft pick compensation should another team pick him up there after though wouldn’t it?
RHR
November 30th, 2009
10:37 pm
Georgia Sports
Tim Tebow: a historic career enters the final stretch
Are you kidding me?! STOP IT! STOP IT RIGHT NOW!
I swear to God (the real one, not the Messiah from Gainesville) if I were an AJC subscriber and I saw that in my newspaper I would cancel my subscription immediately. And I’m not even kidding. Not one bit.
TennesseePaul
November 30th, 2009
10:40 pm
Corey Hart for Derek Lowe straight up seems about right to me
Yeah, I’m on the other side of the fence. Corey Hart blows and has a very strong likelihood of continued blowing. Derek Lowe had a down year, but has a track record suggesting he’ll be a solid, and even top line starter. Granted the Braves have little need for him with the starters they have, but Kawakami in the pen and a rotation of Hanson, Jurrjens, Hudson, Vazquez and Lowe sounds better than watching Hart blow all season long. However, perhaps a grab bag of prospects for Lowe would entice me more. But Hart, no thanks. We already traded that level of futility, no since in re-acquiring it.
N8
November 30th, 2009
10:41 pm
I think you’re wrong T-Paul. I think once they offer arbitration, they are on the hook for whatever the arbitrator decides if the two parties can’t agree before the hearing.
On a side note, if any NFL team thinks they are going to win in New Orleans good luck. The other NFC teams (Vikings) better hope like hell they stumble on the road a couple of times to come back to the pack record wise. Because if that team gets homefield, you might as well punch their SB tickets now.
I’m not even sure the Colts offense can keep up with them anymore if it comes down to a shootout. This team (Saints) is on fire like nobody I’ve seen since the Rams in the early 2000’s with Warner, Holt, Bruce, Faulk, etc..
Insane. They just might take that “Greatest Show on Turf” title away from those rams. Of course they might need to change it to “field turf”.
N8
November 30th, 2009
10:49 pm
“However, perhaps a grab bag of prospects for Lowe would entice me more. But Hart, no thanks. We already traded that level of futility, no since in re-acquiring it.” T-Paul
Totally agree. I said the same thing a couple of weeks ago. That I’d rather they trade Lowe for prospects, and then fix their issues via free agency with the money saved by trading Lowe.
Think about this for just one minute. If Wren can short term fix the areas of need with free agents that don’t require us to give up draft picks (and even if he goes gets Wagner – giving up a first), and Soriano, Gonzo and LaRoche all refuse arbitration (assuming it’s offered to them), THEN add in the prospects possibly gotten by trading Lowe, we could have Hanson, JJJ, Heyward and Freeman as the core, with a couple of prospects for Lowe, and 5, yeah, count em! FIVE picks (2 for Soriano, 2 for Gonzo, 1 for LaRoche) before the 2nd round next year.
Talk about stockpiling your system (possibly) in one draft. Or not if the teams that sign those guys, sign a bunch of other free agents (Yankees, Red Sox, Mets) and we end up with 2nd and 3rd round picks for them.
That’s the part that is tuff for me. If those picks are going to be that low, I’d rather they accepted arbitration and stayed.
nolie
November 30th, 2009
10:50 pm
I’d take Hart to dump Lowes salary Just
not me.the guy is another out machine with marginal power. They trade for Hart and we are stuck with him playing most or all of the season to some extent.The Brewers would have to pick up Lowe’s entire salary to make that deal worthwhile.if then.
Too many people on here are undervaluing Lowe, he likely will bounce back.. No need to just throw the guy away.
Jake W.
November 30th, 2009
10:51 pm
And to think, the falcons horrible D gave up only 28 points to the saints in the superdome. I was sure it would be like 40 something points they gave up. Patriots D looks more like what I thought our defense would do. Seriously though, if Falcons want to be a contender next year got to really upgrade that defense. Grimes is a little guy who plays his heart out but he shouldn’t be starting really for any team in the NFL.
nolie
November 30th, 2009
10:53 pm
As for LaRoche, I figured they’d be sure to offer it this entire time, but with the way the market for 1st basemen seem to be developing RC
I’ll be surprised if the offer to Adam. He’s only a B so doesn’t bring back all that much, probably not enough for them to feel the chance of his accepting is worth it. Like Dave said, they can still negotiate with him for a while and try to sign him for less that they think he might bring in arb. we’ll see.
Wide Right
November 30th, 2009
10:57 pm
Tenn Paul,
I agree with you that Hart holds a “strong liklihood of continuing to blow”…though I am not sure he is any more likely to repeat his 2009 numbers than Lowe. I look at it this way: I think if Lowe was a FA this season and was insistant upon a 3 year deal he wouldnt get more than 27-33MM. If the Braves can get a team to take on 40MM of the 45MM we still owe this guy…it greatly benefits them. They can extend Vasquez, they can sign Laroche…possibly they could do something bigger/better than resigning LaRoche. The chance of a return to 2007 form from Hart would only be the icing on the cake.
nolie
November 30th, 2009
10:58 pm
Gonna try to get to Billy Joe Shaver on Tuesday night in Atlanta, though DOB
you lucky dog, hope you make it
nolie
November 30th, 2009
11:01 pm
Anyone see The Road yet?
decent but not great. not nearly as good as the book. you lose much of that that internalized emotion. I’ve not seen all that many this year, but i’ve liked at least a ½ dozen better myself.
DAP
November 30th, 2009
11:05 pm
10paul I keep reading this but, isn’t the arbitration contract non-guaranteed? If so then the Braves wouldn’t necessarily be “stuck” with the contract. They could cut him before the season, right?
im pretty sure in order to do this, the braves have to make the case that they have 7 relievers (or however many relievers they carry) better than soriano. that case cannot be made.