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keylargo
November 20th, 2009
4:43 pm
JoeBrave
Scott Spiezio is who you mean.
Joebrave
November 20th, 2009
4:44 pm
Thanks Keylargo, Had my guys mixed up.
Eware
November 20th, 2009
4:45 pm
I know he’s a butcher, but I would support installing Uggla at 2B and moving Prado to 1B. I think Uggla would be a good bat behind Mac. But, I would hate to give the Marlins some of our prospects, as they’re in our division. This is going to be a fun winter of trade proposals and rumors.
I think Lowe is still an above average pitcher and would like to keep him another season. Despite the dollars and assuming we cannot find a trade partner, I support KK coming out of the pen. If we do trade KK, I’ve got dibs on his house.
RC
November 20th, 2009
4:45 pm
ncscoots, agreed with your 4:42 post. The only way I see the Braves actually getting a cleanup hitter is in a contract swap with Lowe or Vazquez (such as Lowe for Carlos Lee), and I get the impression they are looking to go that route since it wouldn’t give anymore payroll flexibility, it’d just shift who the $$ is going to.
P'cola Brave
November 20th, 2009
4:45 pm
I don’t think the Braves can build a line up as good as the Phillies. A lot of their guys haven’t reached pay day yet. But if the team is built solidly around the pitching with several hitters able to reach 20+Hr in the line up then i think they will be ok. But a lot has to do with the turn around of Chipper. hopefully that was a one year fluke.
RC
November 20th, 2009
4:46 pm
Should have said the Braves AREN’T looking to go that route….my bad.
Wayne in Utah
November 20th, 2009
4:46 pm
Macon
Per your 4:11 (and please understand, I am not trying to keep any argument going)
Joe’s comment you pasted at 4:11 had NO basis in racism. He was merely stating his opinion of what folks around the stadium might have told him. Bringing it up is not pulling the race card, it’s just stating facts as Joe understood them.
Can we not speak the truth for fear of someone being offended?
Hey, like you guys stated, I kinda wish this thread had never started, but once engaged, don’t tell me I can’t defend a point.
And ugaaccountant, if I was hard on you, I apologize. I just thought you were making a generalization about a couple of my friends that was not accurate. To be honest, I think both you guys were too quick to start crying the R word in a situation with Joe that didn’t meet the criteria.
DOB
Hey, Joe and I can both be azz holes at times, but I sensed that Joe was just speaking the truth. Some folks have a hard time with that sometimes.
Joebrave
November 20th, 2009
4:46 pm
Okay I am outta here for now, Good Luck Wren!, apologies to those who were unintentionally offended, and Go Braves..
BTW DOB, absurd is when an announcement is made that a team has traded for, or signed a player, and the reality is far from the truth.. see last year.
P'cola Brave
November 20th, 2009
4:48 pm
I haven’t seen anything on C. Lee being available. I may just be out of the loop on that one. Wouldn’t be a bad move. How much does C. Lee make?
RC
November 20th, 2009
4:49 pm
I don’t think the Braves can build a line up as good as the Phillies.
Agreed. Only the Yankees can afford to build a lineup like that (and they did). What Philly has right now is an incredible mix of good scouting, good timing, and good luck. Kind of like when the Braves had Chipper, Javy, Klesko, Andruw, and others all hit the majors within a few years of each other.
Joebrave
November 20th, 2009
4:49 pm
18 mill Pcola
BravoMan
November 20th, 2009
4:50 pm
The Braves don’t need to go cheap to fill spots in the starting lineup. They will either trade Vazquez or Lowe and that will shed a big amount of salary and it looks like the Braves right now already have around 15million to spend. So signing a cheap guy like Atkins would be to add him as a pinch hitter not a starter.
RC
November 20th, 2009
4:51 pm
I haven’t seen anything on C. Lee being available. I may just be out of the loop on that one. Wouldn’t be a bad move. How much does C. Lee make?
I’m not sure he is available, it’s just me speculating. He makes $18.5/year for 3 more years, so if the Braves were to trade Lowe for him straight up they would be adding $3.5 million a year to their payroll for the next 3 years (or, $1 million more than Lowe and Anderson cost them last year).
Ron Mexico
November 20th, 2009
4:51 pm
That Uga had it coming.
P'cola Brave
November 20th, 2009
4:53 pm
Besides his poor range, C. Lee offense would be nice. Just a hefty contract. But he would be the clean up hitter we need.
DAP
November 20th, 2009
4:54 pm
What about Juan Riviera from the Angels. He posted a .287/.332/.470 with 25HR, 88 RBI in 130+ gms.
id take him, definitely. rivera is a solid player, and affordable.
ncscoots
November 20th, 2009
4:54 pm
But if the team is built solidly around the pitching with several hitters able to reach 20+Hr in the line up then i think they will be ok.
Except, of course, the team doesn’t actually have the latter. Even if Chipper were to suddenly reincarnate his ‘99 season, there isn’t enough offensive depth on the club to have it matter. Even if McLouth repeats his career year in power, even if McCann continues to improve. Three guys who can hit 20, and the rest is just scratch-and-claw.
Folks here who get enamored of the second-tier guys who might be available haven’t thought past availability and signability and affordability to just plain…ability. Settling, in this area, is likely to produce the same sort of season: settling for less than the playoffs.
Efrim
November 20th, 2009
4:57 pm
The only way I see the Braves actually getting a cleanup hitter is in a contract swap with Lowe or Vazquez (such as Lowe for Carlos Lee)
I’m not even sure that Vazquez would get us the cleanup hitter that we need. Teams just don’t part with those players for one year of a starter, even one coming off such a good year like Javy.
DAP
November 20th, 2009
4:58 pm
p’cola braveC. Lee offense would be nice. Just a hefty contract. But he would be the clean up hitter we need.
why would lee be the cleanup hitter we need, but brian mccann is a bad option? they are practically identical in 2009.
P'cola Brave
November 20th, 2009
4:58 pm
ncscoots, I’m talking about adding guys to McClouth, McCann and Chipper that can reach the 20 HR mark. There really is no slugger available. We passed that up when we decided not to sign Dunn. Until we develop a pure power guy or find one thats available we’ll have to settle with guys who hit 20 and 25 and hope that the offense and pitching are enough to win the wild card.
MiamiBrave
November 20th, 2009
4:59 pm
Is there any chance that Ross could play any first base for us and split time with Prado if we lose Laroche? His SLG% (508) and OPS (888) were second on the team last year after Laroche. He should at very least take over Norton’s job as our designated pinch hitter next year.
That $28 million we just gave Hudson should have gone to an extension for Vazquez. He was one of the top pitchers in the league last year. Now we’re definitiely going to have to move Lowe or there’s no way we can afford to resign Vazquez next year unless his numbers fall off a cliff.
I don’t know why everybody here seems to be in love with Hudson. We’ve paid this guy top dollar and his win totals as a Brave have been 14, 13, 16, 11 and 2 with a 3.78 combined ERA over those 5 seasons. While those numbers aren’t bad, they’re nowhere close to what he was at Oakland and they’re definitely not elite. In the 7 games he pitched last season after surgery, his BAA was .295. Does that deserve $28 million over 3 years? In my opinion it’s a misplacement of limited financial resources that should have been spent on hitting.
P'cola Brave
November 20th, 2009
5:00 pm
DAP, I never said McCann was a bad option. I actually posted a line up a page or two back that had McCann in the 4 hole. I think when the season gets here he will still be our number 4. But to be honest if Lee were acquired he would probably hit 4 in front of McCann
DAP
November 20th, 2009
5:01 pm
cameron and laroche would give you 5 20+ homer guys in the lineup. not that thats the only thing we should talk about. there is much more to scoring runs than homers.
Coach (2011 or Bust)
November 20th, 2009
5:02 pm
I’m a fan of Mike Cameron when it comes to his defense, consistent offense and athleticism. But the strike outs, YEEEESH! Maybe for one year, but nothing more.
Rosenthal can stick it in his ear, the Braves will have no problem trading Derek Lowe if push comes to shove and the Angels might be a fit. I said might be, if Lackey goes elsewhere. Juan Rivera, Brandon Wood, Mark Trumbo, Trevor Reckling and Sean O’Sullivan are some of the Angel players who interest me. The Braves could snag two or three if they play their cards right.
N8
November 20th, 2009
5:04 pm
“I don’t think the Braves can build a line up as good as the Phillies.”
I will also agree with that. That being said, I don’t think the Phillies can build a rotation as solid 1-5 as the Braves, without depleating that strong lineup a bit.
Not sure any of our “aces” matchup with Cliff Lee when he is on his game. But I’ll take our 2-5 starters over the Phillies rotation any day of the week and that includes Cole Hamels (until whatever injury is bugging him is cleared up).
Now, if they go add Halliday, obviously, they’ll be doing well for themselves. But again… I don’t think they can go get a guy like Halliday without giving up Drabek and one of their younger everyday 8 guys in the lineup. And even THEN, our 3-5 spots in the rotation would be more solid.
Only problem is is that with two sure fire aces and that lineup, they probably make the playoffs and then are even more deadly come post-season play.
But the Phillies will not out pitch the Braves next year (rotation wise). Unless they do what we did last year, and revamp 3/5 of their rotation.
P'cola Brave
November 20th, 2009
5:04 pm
I like Nady and Laroche. Nady may or may not get 20 but hes a higher average than Cameron. Cameron’s big plus is his defense. I’ve seen to many triples to Left-center last year.
DAP
November 20th, 2009
5:05 pm
ok, p’cola, gotcha. i thought maybe you were one of those people.
N8
November 20th, 2009
5:06 pm
I agree guys. Sign Cameron. Sign LaRoche. Attempt to sign one of Soriano or Gonzalez, dumping Lowe (keeping Vazquez), and lets play ball.
The offense would be a hacking offense, but with that pitching…..
ncscoots
November 20th, 2009
5:07 pm
and hope that the offense and pitching are enough to win the wild card.
Me, personally, I’m pretty sick of hoping. Maybe that makes me a bad fan. But the idea of ignoring the elephant in the room for this team and going for the mediocre fix, pretty much makes me want to hurl. Others here can get happy over Mike Cameron or Juan Rivera or whatever near-scrub comes up in conversation these days, if they like. Leaves me cold.
P'cola Brave
November 20th, 2009
5:07 pm
I don’t see the Phillies adding Halladay. They will probably fix their bullpen and add a good decent bat at third. Like they need anymore sticks.
Daslied
November 20th, 2009
5:09 pm
MiamiBrave, if Vazquez was extended then Hudson possibly walks without any return. By extending Hudson, you still have Vazquez as a trade chip, if nothing else. Now, if Lowe can be traded Vazquez possibly gets extended.
Someone here said it best months ago – Hudson + a bat (likely Vazquez return) is worth more than just Vazquez.
P'cola Brave
November 20th, 2009
5:09 pm
The Phillies days are numbered. Eventually they will have to pay everyone and most those guys will become free agents. Just like the ’90s for us this is their turn in the sun. Pretty soon it will be ours for the taking again.
Moby Grape
November 20th, 2009
5:14 pm
Braveheart at midnight!
well that hurt your cred a good bit Blaylock sux away from Texas.
AustinBrave
November 20th, 2009
5:17 pm
You never no what might happen in baseball. Yes we don’t match up to th Phillies now. If we trade for big bat Adrian Gonzales type then Mclouth hits 25hmrs, Prado 20hmrs, Chipper 25hmrs, Mcann 30hmrs, and Gonzales 40hmrs and then Heyward and maybe Cameron. We would be hard to beat. We would over match the Phillies.
Salamander
November 20th, 2009
5:40 pm
What’s an mrs AustinBrave?
Ok, I’m giving you a hard time – I know what you meant… Prado hit 20 bombs? Doubtful. Who exactly are the Pads going to want for A. Gonzalez (z on the end, not an s, slick)?
Over match the Phillies (line up)? Suuuuure.
P'cola Brave
November 20th, 2009
5:41 pm
Except we won’t acquire Gonzalez and Prado won’t hit 20 homers.
P'cola Brave
November 20th, 2009
5:42 pm
Gonzalez, Bay, an Holliday aren’t going to happen. May as well go ahead and let those dreams die.
VaBraveFan
November 20th, 2009
5:43 pm
Were not gonna get a big name cleanup guy. Were gonna get a Willingham type. Someone that has some pop between 20-25 homers.
We need a
Closer
1stbaseman
Outfielder
Trading Lowe is a must. We need the salary relief. The Angels will be a good fit if they dont retain Lackey. We should get Juan Rivera.
Add LF Rivera Closer Wagner or Gonzo 1B LaRoche And a couple cheap vetran relivers. (David Weathers types)
C L McCann
1B L LaRoche
2B R Prado
SS R Escobar
3B S Chipper
LF R Rivera
CF L McLouth
RF R Diaz
You build the Lineup
Marko
November 20th, 2009
5:48 pm
I just heard Yankees will pursue both Gonzalez and Soriano and that Gonzales has drawn a lot of interest for a number of teams.
Looks like we will need to look elswhere for a closer.
Moby Grape
November 20th, 2009
5:50 pm
Ronald After that Andruw post, you are going to have a long, hard road ahead to gain any possible thought of ever being taken serious again Wayne
nobody with any sense has ever taken him seriously, so he didn’t really lose all that much
David O'Brien
November 20th, 2009
5:53 pm
The list of roster adds didn’t change for Braves — those five pitchers only, for now. Leaves them with two roster spots.
VaBraveFan
November 20th, 2009
5:55 pm
A.Gonzo wont happen period. They need a huge overhaul for someone of his caliber. He is making arouind 5 million this season and near the same for another. 5-6 million for gold glove defense and 40 bombs i know i’m not trading him unless i hear Heywards name.
David O'Brien
November 20th, 2009
5:56 pm
Marko, that much became clear when Gonzo went with Boras, and particularly when Boras told me 15 teams had called about him even before Friday. He’s going to get a three-year deal, I’d imagine.
At least Braves will get two draft picks. As for Soriano, I still don’t know about them offering arb, whether they’ll risk a potential $8 mill arb salary (I’m just guessing; could be higher) if he accepts.
Moby Grape
November 20th, 2009
5:56 pm
All things considered I wonder if the Reds would deal Brandon Phillips for Prado, and Schafer Joe
why in the hell would the Braves do that? moron
P'cola Brave
November 20th, 2009
5:58 pm
Heres my Lineup
McClouth CF
Prado 2nd
Jones 3rd
McCann c
Escobar ss
Nady LF
Laroche 1st
Diaz Rf
or
McClouth CF
Prado 2nd
Jones 3rd
McCann C
Rivera Lf
Escobar ss
Nady 1b
Diaz RF
Signing Wagner to Close. Dudes a gamer.
AustinBrave
November 20th, 2009
6:05 pm
No one can really say that Prado can’t or want hit 20 home runs. Did anybody ever think that Aaron Hill would hit 36 this past year when he had never even hit 18. Prado is at the right age to start showing his power wait and see. Alson Adrian Gonzales will be traded this year, just dodn’t know weather we will give what it takes.
VaBraveFan
November 20th, 2009
6:06 pm
Moby Grape
I’d do that trade in a heartbeat. Phillips is one of the best hitting 2nd basemens in the game. That prolly isnt enough to land em tho. I’m not completly sure about it cause of contracts i’m not sure what Phillips makes. But he is a 25 homer guy.
David O'Brien
November 20th, 2009
6:14 pm
JoeBrave: The part of your comment that I was calling “absurd” was your contention that the Hawks sell out almost every night. Dude, unless you’re talking strictly about the last couple of weeks, since they’ve been the hottest team in the East, then that’s an absurd statement. That’s all. It just is.
As someone pointed out, just about the only games the Hawks have been able to sell out for most of the past decade were visits by the biggest superstars in the league — Jordan, Kobe, Shaq, and Lebron. Other than that, they’ve had thousands upon thousands of empty seats for most games before this season.
As for the Falcons, what NFL team besides the absolute dregs of the league doesn’t sell out? That’s comparing apples and oranges.
ncgary
November 20th, 2009
6:15 pm
why wouldnt pads accept freeman schaefer medlin reyes for a gonzalez,
TnBrian
November 20th, 2009
6:18 pm
If the Braves are to trade for a 1st baseman for that one year gap for Freeman, here the list of guys they could go after who are FA after 2010:
Atkins, Cantu, Helms, Konerko, Lee, Overbay, Pena, Wigginton
Out of those players Atkins, Cantu, Helms, Overbay, Wigginton seem the most realistic & I’d definitely go with Cantu. Maybe KJ/Reyes/Hicks would get Fla. attention?
nolie
November 20th, 2009
6:19 pm
suppose you think Schafer and Prado are too much for Roy Halladay as well! JoeBrave
what the hell does that have to do with how stupid it would be to trade them for Phillips? could you have come up with a more childish response? sigh
Coach (2011 or Bust)
November 20th, 2009
6:19 pm
Adrian Gonzalez could happen IF several things happen and a couple of mountains get moved.
If Atlanta could arrange a three team trade. If the other two teams were the Angels and Padres. If the Angels wanted Derek Lowe, and if they were willing to part with two or three tops prospects. If the Braves could add two or three of their own prospects and add them to what the Angels are giving up. If the Padres throw in Luis Durango. Then and only IF all these circumstances take place, then the Braves might have a shot at Adrian Gonzalez. Of course pigs could fly and cows would have to jump over the moon too.
nolie
November 20th, 2009
6:26 pm
t’s Duane Allman’s birthday. RIP, mighty Duane DOB
my hero no doubt. I love him backing up Boz Scaggs on ‘Loan Me A Dime’ among many others
do you have his Anthology albums?
nolie
November 20th, 2009
6:31 pm
i think if we get someone other than laroche for 1st base, it needs to be an improvement. DAP
that would be nice, but I seriously doubt it will happen, especially not someone better than Adam was for us after we got him back. ain’t many .950 first sackers available
CB
November 20th, 2009
6:36 pm
scoots at 5:07pm, and how do you Really feel,lol? I am 100% in agreement that we are not for real if we are willing to settle for the Mike Cameron and Nick Swisher types as being what we need to take us to a title. I am going to be a Brave fan no matter how we finish or who we trade for or sign, but we need Wren to step up and get a big bopper,not a Mike Cameron.
nolie
November 20th, 2009
6:42 pm
and if the Braves go that way, so be it. Plan A will just have to be “everybody have a career year”, “Heyward really is that good”, and “the pitching will be just as good as last year”. In other words, a prayer for a perfect storm of good will from the baseball gods, Scoots
sounds like a plan to me bro
AustinBrave
November 20th, 2009
6:46 pm
Chase Utley maybe one of the best 2nd baseman in the game but in 2004 he only hit 13 homeruns. In 2005 he hit 28 homeruns. This year it is Prados turn in 2009 he hit 11 homeruns in 2010 he will hit 26 homeruns if he gets 550 at bats. Have you ever watched his power. He dosen’t just hit them in the first row.
If we can get a power left field and Heyward in right and even a 25-30 homerun first baseman, we will be in the run we the Phillies all year.
nolie
November 20th, 2009
6:52 pm
I’d do that trade in a heartbeat. Phillips is one of the best hitting 2nd basemens in the game. Va
I wouldn’t trade Prado alone for Phillips let alone add a decent prospect. Prado had a higher OPS that Phillips did so I fail to see how he is a better hitter. You must place absolutely no value to Schafer. Bad bad deal
P. W. Hjort
November 20th, 2009
6:52 pm
Saber-ish take on the Atlanta Hawks, or, Josh Smith is a super-star all of the sudden
Paul Lentz
November 20th, 2009
6:54 pm
Random, aka Schyster.
Rob (from SC)
November 20th, 2009
6:56 pm
DOB
With the rotation full, do you have any idea what the Braves are going to do with Jo Jo Reyes. Will he be given a “real” chance to make the team as a reliever
thanks
sidslidkid
November 20th, 2009
6:57 pm
AustinBrave, let’s hold off on comparing Prado and Utley.
Steve from OH
November 20th, 2009
7:00 pm
Rivera? Cameron? Yeah, they’re both ok options. If I had to choose, I’d take relievers for D-Lowe and sign Cameron with the freed-up cash if it was just a one-year deal. Rivera is relatively cheap, but he’s on the two-year plan so Cameron offers more flexibility IMO, as well as a better defensive alignment by shifting McLouth to left (hopefully). Rivera is a plus defender in a corner IIRC, but my thinking is that Cameron is plus in center, and Nate would be plus in left, so you’ve got two plus defenders instead of one. I really don’t know what it would take to sign Cameron, or what we could get for D-Lowe, as I haven’t been following the game closely at all lately. But I do know that neither Cameron or Rivera offer the big bat that I think we need to compete, so in that sense I’d be disappointed.
I dunno. Whatever happens will happen, and I think Wren’s got a much better idea of what’s going to happen than he lets on.
UNCBrave
November 20th, 2009
7:08 pm
DOB,
DO you think the 2 open roster spots will be filled by TRADE or FA??
Steve from OH
November 20th, 2009
7:11 pm
I was surprised the Braves added Cofield to their 40-man roster…the dude walked 5 batters per nine in AA, I’m not sure how a big-league club could really see him as that good of an option…unless he has a big arm, but I haven’t read much of anything about him, so I’d guess that he doesn’t.
I’m surprised that Erik Cordier didn’t get added. I read somewhere where a few teams almost took him last year…
Jay212033
November 20th, 2009
7:16 pm
Derek Lowe for Jose Arredondo and Freddy Sandoval
McFann O
November 20th, 2009
7:17 pm
TnBrian He hit 25 HR with 88 RBI’s which is more than what Chipper or McCann accomplished this season.
McCann had 94 RBI.
I’m just sayin’…
ncscoots
November 20th, 2009
7:33 pm
Random, aka Schyster.
For the love of all that’s holy, somebody please buy this toad a book. “Schyster”. Geez bleepin’ louise.
sounds like a plan to me bro
Nothing wrong with a little hope, my friend, LOL. What the heck…if I had to make a gun-to-my-head, dang-it’s-not-even-Thanksgiving-yet prediction, it would be that guys such as DAP are probably right: Braves sign a Cameron-type and a LaRoche-type, slap some bubblegum, bailing wire, and duct tape on that sucker, and suit up for PCR. Just because it will make ME want to spit doesn’t change anything, LOL.
brent a.
November 20th, 2009
7:51 pm
DOB, The Hawks haven’t even drawn that well the last two weeks.
They had a pathetic crowd on Monday night when they beat Portland in OT.
But, they had a great crowd when Dwyane Wade came to town on Wednesday.
Now, did folks suddenly come out mid-week in Atlanta to see the East leaders, or to see Dwyane Wade?
Well, it’s Friday night, and there are tons of empty seats in Phillips as the Hawks host the star-less Rockets.
My guess is that attendance will be up a little bit this year, but not much. Fans will flock to Phillips for the Lakers, Cavs, Heat, (maybe the) Magic, Celtics, etc.
But, when the play-offs roll around, the place will be packed, and the energy in Phillips Arena will rival that of any arena in the league.
rtrafford
November 20th, 2009
7:53 pm
Let’s say for a moment that Wren makes a deal to get AG from the Padres for a package of Freeman, Infante, Reyes, Rohr, and Locke…or some such combination of talent…some ML ready, and some close by…
Then extend AG with a renegotiated deal that slides a few dollars into the early years to offset the huge impact of the back end by taking a 2year/$10mm deal and turning it into a 4 year/$45mm deal that reads $8mm, $9mm, $14mm, $14mm. You’ve now got a premier talent at 1st base for 4 years who gets quite expensive the same year Chipper retires.
I think AG could be a huge offensive weapon playing fewer games in San Diego, LA, and San Fran.
AdirondackDave
November 20th, 2009
9:09 pm
rtrafford — I suppose it’s a very long-shot but I like your thinking there.
MIBravesFan
November 20th, 2009
9:10 pm
DOB : “what NFL team besides the absolute dregs of the league doesn’t sell out? That’s comparing apples and oranges.”
It was kind of you not to name any names there ….
Crista
November 20th, 2009
9:14 pm
As a current student at FCHS,
Lee Hyde is my new hero
Moe Berg
November 20th, 2009
9:48 pm
“As a current student at FCHS, Lee Hyde is my new hero”-Crista
As someone who went to Parkview years ago, let me warn you that placing your hopes on a fellow alum can prove quite disappointing. I do hope Hyde turns out to be wonderful but don’t let hometown connection cloud one’s judgment.
jeffrey d
November 20th, 2009
9:56 pm
As someone who went to Parkview years ago, let me warn you that placing your hopes on a fellow alum can prove quite disappointing
My alma mater had 2 guys in the NFL. But they both got booted.
Soph
November 20th, 2009
10:00 pm
Ugh, Parkview.
Crista
November 20th, 2009
10:00 pm
As someone who went to Parkview years ago, let me warn you that placing your hopes on a fellow alum can prove quite disappointing
Ya know, he was in my brother’s graduating class. That’s why i’m more excited
Wayne in Utah
November 20th, 2009
10:03 pm
rtrafford
Your suggestion for a contract for AG would be a realistic deal for both sides, I would think. I can see the Braves maybe going for something like that, BUT
If you didn’t get a chance to talk contract with him before the deal, you could feasibly be doing another Tex type trade.
Secondly, your package would probably not fly. They don’t need Freeman, as they have an up and comer at first. Infante is a utility infielder, Reyes is no longer a prospect (though I still like him), Rohrbough is also fallen off the top prospect list and Locke is now with the Pirates (McLouth deal).
I suspect we would at a minimum, have to give up Schafer, Medlen and Teheran. They would probably want Prado or Escobar, but we might get away with keeping those two???
I just don’t see FW doing that deal, when he has his #2 prospect a high ceiling first baseman, especially in these economic times.
Just sayin’
Soph
November 20th, 2009
10:05 pm
Hawks win again! Yay.
Lew
November 20th, 2009
10:06 pm
rtrafford-Hard to include Locke in that deal. They traded him to Pittsburgh for McLouth.
Wayne in Utah
November 20th, 2009
10:13 pm
The Boston Herald suggests the Red Sox are interested in 4 of Scott Boras’ clients. Holliday, Beltre, Gonzo and Ankiel.
Sounds like Boras spreading his manure again. I wouldn’t think the Sox would have any interest in Holliday (Bay is there man), Beltre (they have Youk and Lowell for third) or Ankiel (they picked up Hermida already).
I suspect the AL clubs might not be interested in Holliday, as he didn’t play very well in Oakland.
rtrafford
November 20th, 2009
10:30 pm
lol, typed Locke, thought DeVall…or sweeten it with Teheran…
Efrim
November 20th, 2009
10:35 pm
Me, personally, I’m pretty sick of hoping. Maybe that makes me a bad fan. But the idea of ignoring the elephant in the room for this team and going for the mediocre fix, pretty much makes me want to hurl. Others here can get happy over Mike Cameron or Juan Rivera or whatever near-scrub comes up in conversation these days, if they like. Leaves me cold.
I think I came to the realization that it’s going to be extremely difficult to trade for a slugger in the middle of the lineup. Almost near impossible. I don’t LOVE the idea of Cameron or Rivera, and then just resigning Laroche. I don’t like that at all. But I’m just not sure where Wren can go.
David O'Brien
November 20th, 2009
10:41 pm
Nolie, I’ve got Duane’s Anthology double-LP — on vinyl, terrific condition. Amazing music, start to finish.
Venice Jim
November 20th, 2009
10:44 pm
richbrave, buddy – planning big festive brunch for tomorrow’s game – good luck – either way, we both move on, unlike those poor I-A folks who were misborn into a non-SEC/Big 12 position in life…
Jimmy Joe
November 20th, 2009
10:46 pm
I come on the blog to check up on stuff and I see Wayne dissing the President of the United States. Why the hell are you bringing up politics on a sports blog?
NCBravo
November 20th, 2009
10:52 pm
Currently nearly 25% of the people have voted that Terry Pendleton should be promoted from within if the Braves choose to do so. People seriously? I mean what has Terry Pendleton done to deserve this? The majority of his work with the Braves has provided us with inconsistent hitting at best- no titles and very little to zero postseason action. If you want an example then look at McLouth- he was an All Star before he came to Atl and his power disappeared. Say what you want about Francouer but when Pendleton started trying to improve his swing he got worse. After the trade to New York, he produced much better in an even tougher market than Atl. If you want Cox gone fine, but don’t make it horrific by replacing him with Pendleton.
Tennbravefan
November 20th, 2009
11:00 pm
Dont know why, but I really want the Braves to sign Delgado to play 1st base. I really think the guy will put up .270 30hr 100rbi season. Sign him to a 2 year deal. He will put up better numbers next year than LaRoche…somebody mark this down!
nolie
November 20th, 2009
11:00 pm
This year it is Prados turn in 2009 he hit 11 homeruns in 2010 he will hit 26 homeruns if he gets 550 at bats. H Austin
all I can say about that is “WOW”
Poorbrave
November 20th, 2009
11:19 pm
Great Hawk game tonight……alot of empty seats. Fans are staying home to save their money and watching on TV.
trueform
November 20th, 2009
11:20 pm
that is great information! take a look at this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8GuH9oDHrU
RHR
November 20th, 2009
11:33 pm
so have i missed anything good?
Venice Jim
November 20th, 2009
11:35 pm
RHR – no
J-MAN
November 20th, 2009
11:46 pm
Well its Friday and no moves?
ncgary
November 20th, 2009
11:56 pm
well prado just might breakout this year, he’s at that age, and some of his homers were solid
nolie
November 21st, 2009
12:04 am
so have i missed anything good? RHR
just me
nolie
November 21st, 2009
12:12 am
Gary he ain’t gonna hit 26 homers, he likely won’t hit 18.
How ’bout it Scoots , 26 dingers for the Pradoman?See, we don’t need another big bat at all.
The Ghost of 91
November 21st, 2009
12:36 am
ab r h 2b 3b hr rbi bb hbp so sb cs avg obp slg ops
Home 239 30 51 8 2 13 39 9 3 54 2 0 .213 .247 .427 .674
Away 223 32 57 13 2 12 27 17 0 54 0 0 .256 .308 .493 .801
Moby Grape here are Blalock’ splits I would say he is a damn site better hitter away from Arlington.
And Nolie you are and IDIOT!
RHR
November 21st, 2009
12:37 am
Hey sweet nolie….you behaving yourself? Better not be.
I’ve been laughing so hard at peopleofwalmart.com y’all go have a laugh or 10.
TnBrian
November 21st, 2009
12:44 am
NCBravo, I’m with you all the way on Pendelton. Only reason I can think of as to why so many vote him next manager is that it seems logical. Really, like you said, I can’t pinpoint one thing he’s done as a hitting coach that would make me a believer in him as a manager… nothing. But, I think Frenchy is a stubborn kid with an ego that got the best of him as a Brave. Hopefully, for his own good, he’ll grow out of that. After he embarrassed himself & the organization after his hissy fit about being sent to the minors, I don’t know how that didn’t bring him down to earth.