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Nova Scotia Steve
November 12th, 2009
12:24 pm
Yeah Teal dude.
Vazquez 11 million dollar salary is not something the Marlins want any part of.
At $5.5 million…why do you think they are trying to move Uggla???
P. W. Hjort
November 12th, 2009
12:26 pm
I think a third team would have to be involved to get this done…(any deal involving Uggla that us)
The Marlins ownership and management group operates as a shrewd business executive would. If a deal makes them better, they’ll do it regardless of who they’re dealing with.
They’re also presumably under financial pressure to trade Uggla or some of the other arb-eligible players, and when you’re in that position, you can’t limit your search, you’ve just gotta get back the most you can.
CB
November 12th, 2009
12:28 pm
I don’t understand why there is not more blog love for Soriano and Gonzo,it would appear we could get both of them back at a total cost similar to last year or somewhat close. I thought overall they did a good job.
O.J.
November 12th, 2009
12:29 pm
Nova, I dont think the Marlins have a problem with dealing within the division as long as it gets them prospects. They did trade Scott Olsen and Willingham to the Nats, so its not impossible for them to trade a guy within their division, they have done it plenty of times before.
ManOfTeal, Uggla can be had for much less than Javy, Marlins are trying to shed payroll, not make it bigger by taking on 11.5 million.
Nova Scotia Steve
November 12th, 2009
12:30 pm
CB
I love Soriano…and I think he should be the one we should be keeping over Gonzo
CB
November 12th, 2009
12:36 pm
I’m glad they finally officially announced the extension of Hudson- that took about as long as it took for me to lose my virginity.
keylargo
November 12th, 2009
12:38 pm
Uggla is going to be looking at a ~$9 million arbitration award. That salary makes him a little pricey for small payroll clubs. FanGraphs
Tomas
November 12th, 2009
12:38 pm
Dan Uggla why not? his defense in left field is going to be either = to GA or better. And his offense is exactly what the Braves need.
MattyRoss
November 12th, 2009
12:46 pm
The guy (Uggla) hit .243 and only drove in 90 with his 31 homers. I understand that might change given his spot in the lineup, but dayum. I will say that if he and LaRoche are in the lineup it looks pretty strong. But who would lead off? Pradito?
TnBrian
November 12th, 2009
12:48 pm
The more you think about Uggla the more he just makes too much sense not to go after. I mean, if we do get him & he turns out to be a awful in the OF, like someone else mentioned, I think you could move him to 2nd & Prado in LF. They say he has a “lift & seperate” kind of swing & that’s an ok approach for a cleanup hitter. Chipper & McCann have more compact type swings that suit them better in the 3rd/5th spots in the lineup. Whatever, we just need some power, wherever they hit in the lineup.
O'Brien
November 12th, 2009
12:52 pm
Bobby Cox talked about Prado playing outfield, while KJ plays second.
If the Braves were to trade for Uggla, which combination would be better? Prado in LF and Uggla at 2B? Or Uggla in LF, and Prado at 2B?
ManofAquablue/green???
November 12th, 2009
12:54 pm
ManOfTeal….
Uggla is a 250 hitter that has 150 k’s per year and plays lousy defence. I would hope we could get much more value for Javy than Uggla. I would prefer a Prado at 2b and Adam at 1b more than a Uggla 2b and Prado 1b.
McFann Ô
November 12th, 2009
12:55 pm
This from MLB.com:
Atlanta’s Brian McCann (.281, 21 HRs, 94 RBIs) has a great chance to repeat, but he’ll have to beat the Molina brothers. Bengie (.265, 20 HRs, 80 RBIs) was solid for the Giants while Yadier (.293, 6 HRs, 54 RBIs) continued to star for the Cardinals.
Haha…haha! If BMac loses the Silver Slugger to a guy with 6 homers and 54 RBI, I’ll write to…uh…hmm…somebody!
jeffrey d
November 12th, 2009
12:55 pm
They say he has a “lift & seperate” kind of swing & that’s an ok approach for a cleanup hitter. Chipper & McCann have more compact type swings that suit them better in the 3rd/5th spots in the lineup
The ball doesn’t come at you much differently depending on your spot in the order
GovClintonTyree
November 12th, 2009
12:56 pm
I like Uggla, always have. He’s a little stiff at second, range is a problem, but he’s got LIGHT TOWER POWER. The one he hit off Vazquez on 9/29 still hasn’t come down.
A buddy of mine who grew up with him thinks he’s more suited to move to 1B than LF, FWIW.
Tomas
November 12th, 2009
12:56 pm
Trade Javier Vazquez for Mat Gamel, Jeremy Jeffress, and Cole Gillespie.
Trade Kelly Johnson, Jo-jo Reyes, and Brandon Hicks for Dan Uggla?
P-Town Brave
November 12th, 2009
12:56 pm
Like I said a few posts ago, I think where Uggla plays all depends on the “other” player we get.
I think he could be used either at 1b or LF (he’s played both in the minors)
P-Town Brave
November 12th, 2009
12:58 pm
Tomas-
Are you saving the money for Wagner there or pen help?
P-Town Brave
November 12th, 2009
1:00 pm
Oh, and someone who mentioned that Uggla couldn’t play 1b because of his height…
Well, it wouldn’t matter as much considering 95% of Chipper’s and 75% of Yunel’s bad throws are in the dirt and not high….just have to teach the guy how to scoop if he doesn’t already know from playing infield.
bob
November 12th, 2009
1:01 pm
Just because he’s a Braves-killer doesn’t mean he’d be a great Braves-addition.
Take a deep breath, folks, and set the bar higher.
jwb
November 12th, 2009
1:02 pm
“I hope we do it — for the city of Atlanta and the Atlanta Braves, but also for Bobby Cox, he’s been so great for the city of Atlanta all these years, so great to play for, we’re going to go out there and give it all we’ve got”
and sometimes it rains.
GovClintonTyree
November 12th, 2009
1:02 pm
Naw, Bob, I like the Uggla idea. Dude has serious power despite being about 5′6″. Need to hire somebody to pee for him, though.
GovClintonTyree
November 12th, 2009
1:03 pm
If Uggla can play LF, I’d go for that and try to land a higher-tier 1B. If we miss out on Bay and Holliday, the rest of the LF market is crap. Trades excluded, of course.
P-Town Brave
November 12th, 2009
1:04 pm
jwb-
So far up for funny post of the day.
brian
November 12th, 2009
1:04 pm
a trade centered on Kelly Johnson for Dan Uggla makes sense for the Braves if the Marlins are willing to do that (they do have a pretty good young 2B themselves who started out in LF). Getting the right handed power hitting Uggla will help the power department. If he can also play LF and 1B that will give the Braves continued flexibility in looking to acquire another big bat for either LF or 1B. Prado’s flexibility to fill in at 3B or 1B adds more flexibility to the lineup though I know it is better for most to stick to one position.
I wonder if the Braves would have interest in Matt Lindstrom for their bullpen as another arbitration eligible Marlin who supposedly on the block
ncscoots
November 12th, 2009
1:09 pm
Take a deep breath, folks, and set the bar higher.
Just the name du jour, bob. Blog fodder. Nelson Cruz a couple of blogs ago, Uggla today. Means little, and gives the barbarian hordes something to do besides storming the city gates and taking all the grain and women, LOL.
DAP
November 12th, 2009
1:12 pm
TnBrianWhatever, we just need some power, wherever they hit in the lineup.
i agree with that. but there is a guy that would give us almost as much power from the outfield without sacrificing defense. in fact he is an above average outfielder. mike cameron is out there.
i dont totally hate the idea of getting uggla, but htere is a decent chance that cameron will be pretty close to him offensively, and he wont cost you runs on defense, which uggla will. cameron is a more valuable player, who probably wont get paid much more than uggla, and wont cost any prospects.
P. W. Hjort
November 12th, 2009
1:14 pm
Yikes. Keith Law:
Mike Minor (Arizona)
Keith, if I can consistently pitch in the 91-93 range that I’ve shown in the AFL, how does that affect my prospect status.
Klaw
(1:13 PM)
Well, you didn’t, and you can’t, so let’s stick to more realistic questions.
Tomas
November 12th, 2009
1:14 pm
P-Town……yes
keylargo
November 12th, 2009
1:16 pm
Well, it wouldn’t matter as much considering 95% of Chipper’s and 75% of Yunel’s bad throws are in the dirt and not high….just have to teach the guy how to scoop if he doesn’t already know from playing infield.
I don’t see why he couldn’t come up for a weekend, do you? Maybe teach him to bunt too!
Ben
November 12th, 2009
1:20 pm
PLEASE , say no to Uggla. He’s a liability on defense no matter where he plays. I live in S. Florida and seen enough of Uggla. He’s has to be the worst base runner in MLB. and plain dumb. He doesn’t know how to run the bases.
Eavesdropper
November 12th, 2009
1:21 pm
Dan Uggly huh? ummmmm NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
N8
November 12th, 2009
1:23 pm
“He’s has to be the worst base runner in MLB. and plain dumb. He doesn’t know how to run the bases.”
He doesn’t sprint towards 3B when he makes contact, does he? Because that would be a problem. Otherwise, he’d fit in just fine with this group. LOL
Mark
November 12th, 2009
1:28 pm
“Could Uggla be any worse defensively than Loaf?
There are 2 red flags though. Uggla is a .257 hitter, and he only hit .208 against lefties last season.”
I know a Braves outfielder who hits lefties pretty well that would make a good platoon option, or if you wanted to give an infielder a rest and let Uggla fill in there.
David O'Brien
November 12th, 2009
1:31 pm
Mikeyc588, that’s a great one. You ever hear Jim James and Calexico’s cover of Dylan’s “Goin’ to Acapulco”? Sublime
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtbNuL-3aSU&feature=related
Richie
November 12th, 2009
1:31 pm
So Adrian Gonzalez is totally out of the question here? I am curious because he is the middle of the lineup thump that is necessary for this Braves offense. I agree we could use some right handed thump to balance the lineup but during our WS runs wasnt the middle of the lineup predominantly left – handed? After the Braves let Gant go….
P-Town Brave
November 12th, 2009
1:34 pm
Um yeah, getting a guy to “fill in” is a problem…we aren’t cool with more “fill in” players…
Uggla is certainly not one of those guys either…
Key…who is this “he” you’re talking about?
P-Town Brave
November 12th, 2009
1:35 pm
Richie-
Yes, but fortunately those lefties could hit lefties well, and Javy Lopez was a righty and absolutely killed lefties.
O'Brien
November 12th, 2009
1:36 pm
Mike Cameron last 2 seasons (in Milwaukee):
‘09: 24 HR, 70 RBI.
‘08: 25 HR, 70 RBI.
Despite hitting that many HR, his RBI total is low (although with Fielder and Braun on the team, they probably get a lot of the RBI). And his post season numbers are horrible. In 4 postseasons, his averages were .167, .200, .143, .154. And given his age (37), his decline could come at any minute, and it could happen fast (see Chipper).
I would not go after Mike Cameron…
18 Wheels of Love
November 12th, 2009
1:36 pm
So when I was in NYC last week and opted not to go to see MofF, that was a mistake?
David O'Brien
November 12th, 2009
1:37 pm
18 Wheels: Not just a mistake. A huge one.
N8
November 12th, 2009
1:39 pm
Richie, if you thought the Padres were asking a lot for Peavy last year, what do you think they are going to ask for for Gonzalez?
As for our cleanup hitters, you’re forgeting about the Big Cat, Brian Jordan and Sheffield. From 1994 to 1997 we were very LH heavy. In 98 when the Big Cat was brought in (and Jordan the next year), it started a run of a few years of having better balance in the lineup until recently becoming very LH heavy again.
P-Town Brave
November 12th, 2009
1:41 pm
O’Brien-
Yeah, I’m not a big Cameron fan either, at least not as the #1 priority or #1 get for the offseason.
Maybe coupled w/ an Adrian Gonzalez and I’ll be happy w/ just about anybody out there including Cameron.
I think I’d take Uggla before him.
It’d be interesting to get everyone to rank the players that have been mentioned the last few days…
P-Town Brave
November 12th, 2009
1:44 pm
N8-
Just think about this as well…
Our big 3 coming are Heyward, Schafer, and Freeman…
Thus why myself and most have the reasoning for a RHH OF and possibly also a RHH 1b for the near future
AND
My reasoning for Garrett Atkins to play 1b and then move to 3b when Chipper retires…
Well that and to keep the Phillies from getting him as Chase Utley is lobbying hard to bring him to Philly instead of DeRosa.
Macon Braves (RIP)
November 12th, 2009
1:50 pm
Tim Hudsonw was Wren’s top priority…I mean…I love Timmy…but I don’t know if it was the teams top priority…unless Wren is hinting that this signing means they can move some pitching to help fill other needs…
If you would reread what DOB wrote, you would see that the quote wasn’t “Top priority”, it was “FIRST priority”. Big difference there. First priority means he wanted to get it done quickly so he could move on to more pressing needs I would think.
Mitchie-san
November 12th, 2009
1:53 pm
Hey DOB,
We havent had a good show out here in a while. You know who is coming that I have to look foreward to? Loggins and Messina and then two members of Boston…
Daybed Wagmoe
November 12th, 2009
1:56 pm
McFann — your 12:55pm post was really funny.
David O'Brien
November 12th, 2009
1:56 pm
Hudson deal is three year, $28 mill – $9 mill each of the next three seasons, with a $9 mill team option and $1 mill buyout
Efrim
November 12th, 2009
1:58 pm
Arturo (Veracruz, Mexico)
Just to know: if Spanish is my favorite language and I write in Spanish, does it lessen my chances of have my question selected?What’s your opinion about Frank Wren, Braves’ scouting team and in general the team’s future?
Keithlaw (1:44 PM)
Either one works. If you write in Finnish, though, you’re out of luck. Drafts had been very good before 2009’s, but they had a rough one this year, and the upheaval in their scouting department in the last four months is a real negative. They’ve made some excellent trades – Javy Vazquez, getting Jair Jurrjens in the Renteria deal (I heard one of their front office guys, John Coppolella, really pushed for Jurrjens) – but entered the season with an outfield that was just embarrassing for a would-be contender. The Francoeur fetish lasted way too long. So the answer is the future looks mixed.
Roman Gal
November 12th, 2009
1:58 pm
…while Yadier (.293, 6 HRs, 54 RBIs) continued to star for the Cardinals.
Ugh…all the Yadier love is sickening. And him playing for the vast majority of the all-star game (even though it wasn’t technically his decision) didn’t exactly endear me towards him either.coughblastedcharliemanualcough
Efrim
November 12th, 2009
1:59 pm
Hudson deal is three year, $28 mill – $9 mill each of the next three seasons, with a $9 mill team option and $1 mill buyout
That’s a great deal. Well done, Frank Wren.
O.J.
November 12th, 2009
1:59 pm
Wouldnt that be 3/27 then if its 9 per?
DAP
November 12th, 2009
2:01 pm
OJ, $1mil buyout makes it $28mil guaranteed over 3 years, or $36mil over 4 years if the option is picked up.
Double J
November 12th, 2009
2:01 pm
FYI – Frank Wren was just on Inside Pitch with Casey Stearn & Kevin Kennedy on XM Radio…..he said that the club will “probably not” go after any of the “big offensive free agents”. So…I’m not gonna get my hopes up about the possibility of Holliday or Bay wearing a tomahawk across their chest.
Chris
November 12th, 2009
2:04 pm
dan uggla would be a good addition if he plays left field. then resigning laroche would be ideal, though, i dont know if the braves can resign laroche to less than 3 years. trade lowe for a solid reliever, and sign wagner for about $6 million.
Mr J
November 12th, 2009
2:05 pm
O.J.
It’s $28 million because that is the amount guaranteed to Hudson. If the Braves don’t pick up the option in the 4th year they still owe him $1M.
brooklyn brave
November 12th, 2009
2:12 pm
MoF show at beacon in NYC on sunday was off the charts good. i know you’ve already talked about it, but the live show just blew away the album. destroyed it.
nfieldr
November 12th, 2009
2:14 pm
DOB, from what I read, NBC is going to make you wait until summer for FNL. Also, with all the time that you’re on the road, have you ever considered a Slingbox?
18 Wheels of Love
November 12th, 2009
2:14 pm
Yeah it was between seeing Ricky Gervais or MofF. We chose Ricky since the wife isn’t into music.
What they need: Braves | umpbump.com
November 12th, 2009
2:16 pm
[...] to right field and the Braves could sign a free agent or trade for a left fielder. The AJC’s Dave O’Brien says not to dismiss rumors that Atlanta might trade for Florida 2B Dan Uggla and shift him to LF. [...]
O.J.
November 12th, 2009
2:17 pm
Ohhhh, K, cool. Thanks for the clarification guys.
AdirondackDave
November 12th, 2009
2:18 pm
Trading for Uggla makes sense to me but not as 1st baseman. He’s under 6′ tall and not a magician with his glove. Seems to me you would not only be downgrading defense at first but also SS and 3rd. Keep him at 2nd or put him in left. He has to be an improvement with the glove over Anderson and with the bat just no comparison at all. Marlins should be interested in KK + Kelly to replace Uggla. Maybe throw in a second tier prospect. Then sign LaRoche and the Braves are all set for a strong run in ‘10 and beyond.
N8
November 12th, 2009
2:23 pm
Here’s the thing about LaRoche, if they want to go that way. This isn’t ideal. But say they want him, but he wants a 3 year deal or it’s a deal breaker, they could go all Ryan Klesko on Freeman. By that, I mean, if he’s ready to come up and Uggla has departed, they could put Freeman in LF for a year, to get his bat in the lineup.
Klesko ran some nice post-routes going after some fly balls, but they wanted his bat in the lineup, so they took the risk. Not sure they’d want to do that to Freeman and mess with his head. But they coud always have him start playing some LF in the meantime.
Of course, the other option would be to not give LaRoche any sort of no-trade clause, and simply trade him when the time is right. Provided they don’t overpay for him, or his production declines by then.
Eavesdropper
November 12th, 2009
2:27 pm
Puhleeeeeze no more Dan Uglla stuff, he will not repeat those numbers in Atlanta,aside from being a defensive nightmare
TnBrian
November 12th, 2009
2:27 pm
AdirondackDave, I could see KK going to a team that has some money to spend, unlike Florida. They’d probably want prospects or cheap MLB players. This Uggla thing makes sense, but I won’t be a bit surprised to see it written off by Atlanta here soon. Wren has so many options coming to him & he might even have a lot right now, we just don’t know. Wren pretty much said he was going to wait it out until the December meetings.
Chris
November 12th, 2009
2:28 pm
N8- another option is to deal freeman in a package (instead of vazquez) for a big bat. and resign laroche for three years.
ccrider
November 12th, 2009
2:28 pm
Efrim and P.W. Hjort: I know you both are knowledgeable Braves fans, BUT PLEASE, let’s not give too much weight to Keith Law’s opinions about the Braves system. He is a Harvard grad and sabermatician, but he only had a brief career in the majors with the Blue Jays because J.P. Ricciardi( who has been fired by the Blue Jays since then) found him interesting and gave him a job which consisted of moving him every year to a different position.
To my knowledge, he has never played baseball at anywhere near a high level, No other teams rushed to hire him after he left Toronto in 2006 and he isn’t even that good of a writer.
I think it would be wiser to listen to what our scouts say about our prospects than a sports writer with questionable expertise !
Efrim
November 12th, 2009
2:28 pm
Jon Heyman from SI:
Reliever Mike Gonzalez appears very popular in the free-agent market. There are loads of bullpen options, but he can set up, he can close and he’s left-handed, making him about the most desirable of the lot.
I gotta think it’s a slam dunk that the Braves offer him arbitration. Personally, I would resign Soriano to a two year deal, offer arb. to Gonzo and let him walk, then trade for a left handed reliever(or get one back when you deal Lowe or Vazquez).
Eavesdropper
November 12th, 2009
2:28 pm
I’d rather be stuck with the human RADAR J. big ears Schafer, and the thought of that makes me gag!
keylargo
November 12th, 2009
2:28 pm
Prince Fielder is 5′ 9″. I don’t want him for other reasons, but it isn”t his height.
The reason I don’t want Uggla as a First Baseman is because he is a Second Baseman.
McFann Ô
November 12th, 2009
2:29 pm
Daybed Wagmoe–
Thanks!
Seriously though…I mean, no offense, but why is Yadier even in the Silver Slugger discussion? Bengie Molina, fine. But Yadier?
N8
November 12th, 2009
2:30 pm
All of that of course, (in the above post), is assuming Wren is interested in bringing LaRoche back at all. I’ve read some reports saying they’re not sold on his trenf of always starting the year so slow. Which I agree, is troublesome.
I still think and I’ve said this for a while, the big trade that will be the difference maker is going to be an under the radar move that the ball is already rolling on.
But time will tell I guess. Still like the idea of Mike Cameron as the secondary addition to the lineup and putting him in CF with McLouth moving to LF. Just don’t want Cameron as a cleanup hitter. Also, reports have the Braves lukewarm to not interested in Camerons (same as last year), so like I said. Wren’s got something up his sleeve. Just like the JJJ/Renteria trade.
Also, nobody saw the McLouth or LaRoche deals coming, so after last off-season when Wren seemingly telegraphed every move he was going to make, he seemed to learn how to fly stealth with his trades. I don’t know why, but I just have a feeling it might be a blockbuster. Just a gut.
RHR
November 12th, 2009
2:31 pm
Wow. No.
he Florida Marlins are expected to aggressively shop infielder Dan Uggla this winter, and two clubs that have expressed strong interest are the Baltimore Orioles and San Francisco Giants.
The key note shared by FoxSports.com is that both clubs view Uggla as a third baseman, rather than his natural position of second base. Baltimore has Brian Roberts under contract and the Giants just re-upped with Freddy Sanchez, so neither team has an opening at second.
David O’Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution writes Thursday that the Braves could have interest in Uggla to play left field. Does that put an Uggla-Javier Vazquez deal in the offing?
Joe Frisaro of MLB.com believes the Washington Nationals will also show interest in Uggla, although with Ryan Zimmerman signed long-term, Uggla would apparently stay at second base for them.
njbraves
November 12th, 2009
2:32 pm
Uggla is a terrible idea. I have a bad feeling the Braves are going to go cheap here, and try to plug holes with marginal talent. I hope I’m wrong. This team will struggle again without a “big” bat in the middle of the order.
TnBrian
November 12th, 2009
2:33 pm
Eavesdropper, puhleeeeze, from ‘06-’09 he’s hit 27,31,32,31 HR’s & the Marlins stadium isn’t exactly the Phillies small park. He’ll repeat those HR numbers if he’s with the Braves. You have to remember who was patrolling LF this year, so Uggla couldn’t be any worse & I’d be willing to bet that he’s better out there.
O.J.
November 12th, 2009
2:34 pm
Eavesdropper, tell us why Dan Uggla wouldnt repeat those numbers in Atlanta. Please do share your reasoning behind it.
Eavesdropper
November 12th, 2009
2:35 pm
hurry up sabean get Dan Uggly and save Wren from a miserable mistake!
Efrim
November 12th, 2009
2:36 pm
To my knowledge, he has never played baseball at anywhere near a high level
ccrider, I’m honestly not sure that should matter. Did Theo Epstein play baseball at a high level? Don’t think so.
No other teams rushed to hire him after he left Toronto in 2006
Maybe ESPN gave him a sh!t ton of money, man. Maybe he did garner interest and passed. Who knows? I could really care less.
I think he is right about Francouer, they went too long with him. But I’m not sure how he can say the Braves future is mixed. That I disagree with. Their future might not be as bright as the large market Yankees or Red Sox, or even the Phillies. But Wren has put them in a great spot to contend 2010-2012, imo. He’s of the opinion that the Braves losing Roy Clark is a real negative. I bet he isn’t the only one with that opinion. But I’m sure there are people in the industry who might feel change is good at this point. Wren is putting his stamp on this team, which I am okay with since he hasn’t done anything to make me think that it’s a bad thing.
N8
November 12th, 2009
2:37 pm
“N8- another option is to deal freeman in a package (instead of vazquez) for a big bat. and resign laroche for three years.” Chris
You’re right, that’s a very real possiblity. Probably the most realistic, especially if my gut feeling of a blockbuster coming, is to happen.
I’ve never got the feeling that Freeman is as high on the list as a guy like Heyward. Always had the “we’re going to over-praise him publicly so his trade value is higher” feeling about what the Braves say about him, (like Flowers or Salty). Then again. When you’re teamed up with Heyward, it’s kind of hard to get over-excited about the 2nd best guy.
He’s Ryan Klesko to Chipper Jones in 1993. Klesko was up helping out, yet nobody could wait to see Chipper in action.
I just have a feeling that Freeman, Vazquez and maybe Hicks (or another upper quality prospect) are going to net us a big bat we’re not thinking about right now, and then you are right, LaRoche could be plugged in at 1B for few years, and bat lower in the order like last year.
beekay
November 12th, 2009
2:37 pm
DOB or anyone
If Sammy Sosa makes the Hall of Fame will he go in as a white guy or black guy?
Eavesdropper
November 12th, 2009
2:38 pm
go check the young man’s numbers especially at home last year and then get back to me OJ, he is a one park hitter,21 of 31 hr came at Dolphin Stadium, and zero were in Atlanta!
McFann Ô
November 12th, 2009
2:38 pm
Roman Gal–
Ja…and I kinda like Yadier. He’s got some good defense. But… ? Star for the Cardinals? With his bat? Hmm…6 homers 54 RB…yeah, OK, gotcha [makes "OK" sign with hand and winks sarcastically].
The All-Star thing…yeah, can’t be mad at him for it, of course. That was Manuel’s doing…sickening.
And I can’t begin to tell how much I wish the ASG was gonna be here in 2010 with BMac as the starter. Would Manuel leave the “Hometown Boy” in for 8 innings then? Doubtful…very doubtful.
Now ‘08 was a bit of a different story–the Russell Martin thing? He’s the guy who had the gall to tell BMac, “I’m going in after Soto.” Where do you come off saying that, anyway? Taking advantage of BMac’s good nature. Course that didn’t mean Hurdle had to leave him in for 10 stinking inning or however long it was…
abwright
November 12th, 2009
2:38 pm
Roman Gal, 1:58 pm … “coughblastedcharliemanualcough”
RG, do you need a lozenge?
The worst thing about the Philthies winning the NLCS … BMac gets to sit for another nine inning AS game.
Eavesdropper
November 12th, 2009
2:38 pm
excuse me 1 came in Atl.
TnBrian
November 12th, 2009
2:39 pm
Uggla wouldn’t be my first choice as that power bat either, but some of you aren’t realizing why he makes so much sense & that’s Javy Vazquez. To get a Cruz type who has power & plays good defense, Atl. would almost have to trade their ace & probably more to get them. With Uggla, I think KJ & some lower level prospects could do it because the Marlins cheap asses don’t want pricey players… good for us.
Eavesdropper
November 12th, 2009
2:40 pm
now tell me again why you’d want Uglla?
CB
November 12th, 2009
2:40 pm
Efrim,I agree with keeping Soriano,but I would also try to sign both he and Gonzo to 2yr contracts if reasonable. If you can’t with Gonzo then offer arb.
N8
November 12th, 2009
2:41 pm
I stated the following in my last post and it came across wrong. Of course he’s not as highly thought of as Heyward. Besides Hanson last year, along with Furcal, Andruw and Chipper, who HAS been that highly thought of for the Braves on their way up?
What I meant, was that I’ve never gotten the vibe that he’s ever going to be the long-term answer for us at 1B. He’s always felt like a trade chip to me. Which I think just might end up being.
McFann Ô
November 12th, 2009
2:42 pm
abwright The worst thing about the Philthies winning the NLCS … BMac gets to sit for another nine inning AS game.
Yeah, ’cause even if he starts, Manuel will pull him after one inning.
David O'Brien
November 12th, 2009
2:42 pm
brooklyn brave: no doubt about MofF. CD is very good, but the concert was one of the best I’ve seen in years. Just a terrific show, so much more rockin’ than I imagined it would be. Those are three of the more talented young/relatively young guys in rock today — Oberst, Ward and James — and all of them have such great, distinct voices, in addition to being stellar songwriters and guitar players. I had no idea how good a player M. Ward was. Just so much talent on that stage with the four guys in the band, and also the “Fifth Monster,” as Jim referred to him, the drummer from Centro-matic — he’s top-shelf, too.
Bubdylan
November 12th, 2009
2:44 pm
DOB, how come the whole time I was here you never mentioned the Avett Brothers?? Somebody showed me them today and I’m about to lose my damn mind in ecstasy.
I know it wasn’t your responsibility to complete my musical eduaction, but… yes, yes it was.
Barrett
November 12th, 2009
2:45 pm
beekay: Huh? Does it matter?
abwright
November 12th, 2009
2:47 pm
McFann Ô, 2:42 pm … “Yeah, ’cause even if he starts, Manuel will pull him after one inning.”
Where’s the ASG this year? NL or AL park? I suppose Manuel could pinch hit for BMac (if he’s the starter and batting 4th [just to make you even more upset]) before BMac gets a defensive inning in.
Let’s have some Love for that Charlie Manuel!
David O'Brien
November 12th, 2009
2:47 pm
Bubdylan: We’ve talked about Avett Bros. on here plenty. Their current album is one of my favorites of the year. Great band, and they’re from N.C.
Eavesdropper
November 12th, 2009
2:48 pm
Uggla at the fin .251 away from the fin .235 yikes!! thanks but i’ll pass
abwright
November 12th, 2009
2:50 pm
KJ for Uggla, maybe.
Vazquez for Uggla, no way.
Greg Norton for Uggla, priceless.
beekay
November 12th, 2009
2:51 pm
Barrett…I was kidding. Hav you seen the pictures of Sosa after he used the skin cream? He looks like MJ now
Efrim
November 12th, 2009
2:51 pm
Does that put an Uggla-Javier Vazquez deal in the offing?
Uggla just isn’t worth Vazquez. Not even close, imo.
O.J.
November 12th, 2009
2:51 pm
Eavesdropper, so what, the man still hit .353 with a .964 OPS at Turner Field.
And FYI he had 0 homers at Coors Field, so what, it means nothing. He still hit 31 homers.
Pierson Brave
November 12th, 2009
2:51 pm
Just came across a bottle (still in the extruded(sp) plastic sleeve) of Dowling Bourbon. Aged 12 years from1959 – 1971 4/5th quart. Any of you know anything about this type of bourbon? I know some of you like to partake at times.