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Wayne in Utah
November 11th, 2009
12:54 am
I think the note on MLBTradeRumors was saying that maybe Votto could be moved, if it would mean the obtaining team would take on a bad contract.
Kinda like Arroyo and Votto for a couple of good prospects. Supposedly, the Reds have an up and coming first base prospect….Soriano??? maybe?
Wayne in Utah
November 11th, 2009
12:55 am
alonso….that was it…
Wayne in Utah
November 11th, 2009
12:58 am
If you did a deal like that, you would have to turn around and deal away some salary for sure.
At 12-13 million for Harang or Arroyo, might be a tad steep. Both had OK years last year, but neither have impressed me enough to pay them that much. Maybe Harang a few years ago.
Does Votto bat left or right (too lazy to look it up)?
RHR
November 11th, 2009
1:03 am
Ahem.
I saw that, nolie.
nolie
November 11th, 2009
1:04 am
how ’bout Vazquez,Freeman & Diaz for Pujols???
nolie
November 11th, 2009
1:05 am
I saw that, nolie (RHR)
lavell12
November 11th, 2009
1:06 am
DOB
The articel says the Reds would trade Votto to open a spot for a prospect but they would only do it if the trade partner took on one of their bad prospects.
Andrew in P-tang
November 11th, 2009
1:11 am
Votto is lefty, and really we can stop now with Albert Pujols trades,that is bananas
lavell12
November 11th, 2009
1:15 am
DOB is confusing me, do the Braves have interest in Nelson Cruz or not?
nolie
November 11th, 2009
1:19 am
♥♥♥♥Pijols♥♥♥♥
Bobby's Cox
November 11th, 2009
1:20 am
DOB,
Apologies. I reread your 6:13 and my response to it. Read it too quickly before & subsequently I “mis-read.” Agreed, what you or I think has no bearing on anything. Personally, I don’t think we have the pieces to offer Texas for Cruz, but I really like the guy. From what I’ve read about the Rangers over the last year, they want major-league ready talent (veterans) but don’t want to add much payroll. Maybe this could be a ploy by Wren, like you said, to not show much interest…we’ll see, but I’m sure Wren has many other viable options no one has thought of yet, and/or things will change as the offseason rolls along. My apologies though.
nolie
November 11th, 2009
1:20 am
and really we can stop now with Albert Pujols trades,that is bananas
♥♥sarcasm♥♥
nolie
November 11th, 2009
1:28 am
thank goodness Mad Men is over. Now I won’t have to read any more hyperbole about it. Ugh!!
Wayne in Utah
November 11th, 2009
1:43 am
I will trust Frank Wren and his judgement on deals. I think he learned some valuable lessons last year with Towers, Furcal, Burnett and Junior.
That is why you are not hearing a lot of nuggets emerging from their camp. At this point, we hot stovers are reliant on other teams personnel, and we all know they are liars.
Maybe we wake up tomorrow to a new hard hitting righthander, but don’t hold your breath.
Wayne in Utah
November 11th, 2009
1:45 am
What is Mad Men? Is that a movie or TV show? Well, they haven’t talked about it yet on FoxNews, and I didn’t hear Cramer mention it tonight, so it doesn’t exist in my universe……
Andrew in P-tang
November 11th, 2009
2:36 am
Thats why John S. was so good, he never tipped his hand.
tdmorgan
November 11th, 2009
2:40 am
Wayne, Mad Men is a show on AMC that is based on the advertising industry in the 1960s
Bay Area Steve
November 11th, 2009
4:09 am
WTF is wrong with you people?
When you see a Pujols trade idea, how can you believe it’s anything other than sarcasm? Hell, I’m on ounce 15 of the cheapest liquor available, and even I know it’s BS. C’mon folks, if you can’t appreciate a little sarcasm, “well then Jed, I don’t even want to know you” (saw the Josiah post and response, earlier; love the West Wing mention).
I’m sayin’ twice a week, at least, some cat here’ll say JoJo, BJones, and Medlen for Pujols and Ludwick. Maybe we include KJ, if necessary. And, without fail, no less than two posts will ridicule the proposal.
People, how do you go through life with a mind like that? Fire a second synapse, I beg you.
Bay Area Steve
November 11th, 2009
4:17 am
And, yes, I’m the only man on the planet to have called Random out without a response. Dude catches every post, but I managed to slip one through.
OK, this is BS, and I’m just tryin’ to get a response. But, just sayin’, maybe Random’s not NSA…probably just the INS (or ICE, or whatever the heck it is now).
And, I’m not sure I want a Random reaction; no doubt I’ll not win.
And, what was with that dude knocking prolly. Please tell me prolly is perfectly acceptable for probably. Dude really though it was a spelling thing? C’mon man, this thing is conversational. Like when I say Anders is a douche-bag, and just go d-bag. Correct grammar and spelling is inferred by all, right?
Bay Area Steve
November 11th, 2009
4:23 am
And, where in the hell is everybody?
I know ‘OB’ll point out the time. But, f’ that. I need someone to ridicule. I’ve got no original ideas; I need someone else so I can post.
And, why can’t I stop picturing cabravesfan and Vinings (or Venice, or Vagabond, or Vagrant) Jim as rabbits?
And, though I believe I’ve asked before, why must I start every-freakin’-post with And? My English teacher said no, yet my mind says yes.
Bay Area Steve
November 11th, 2009
4:40 am
All right, if nobody’s here, I’ll ridicule from memory. Although, in this case, ridicule is too strong. Let’s go with: present another idea.
McFann,
I’ve been impressed that over the last few months you’ve come to see your boy more as he is, instead of what we want him to be. I believe you’ve got his current skill-set pinpointed as good, or better, than us all.
But, I saw you post recently, on this subject, and wanted to mention a prolly (screw that guy) minor point. Preface: love 16’s setup. Prolly ’cause it reminds me of my own (or, at least, I think mine was somewhere near that good). His early target, and square and quiet movement (in addition to being a Braves catcher) are prollly what made me like him so much.
But, an early target gives the opponent the chance to steal that information. My JC and college teams routinely gave hitters that info. I’ve no idea how common that is at the pro level. Hopefully, one of the cats who does’ll opine, but there is a real reason why you’ll see catchers set up late, and oftentimes, so late that it can’t possibly be good for the pitcher. I believe you mentioned a Mets catcher, and I distinctly remember thinking, as you did, that his pre-pitch action was horrible. I’d even go so far to say that even if an opponent was tipping location, that a late set-up could do more harm than good. Again, I hope someone more knowledgable’ll post.
Bay Area Steve
November 11th, 2009
4:49 am
Veterans past, present, and future: thank you.
In a similar vein: I ask all of you this small favor: Please see your local McDonalds, your local car dealer, your local “let me fly this ’cause it might make me more money,” and, if our flag is in tatters, as it will be a shockingly high percentage of the time, politely ask them to replace it, and offer to take the existing flag to a Legion Post, or some other appropriate location for disposal. Thank you.
Couch Tater
November 11th, 2009
5:05 am
And, I was ready to “fire” a post about your NEURONIC freakin’ 4:09. Then, you post the flag wavin’ thang…
Bay Area Steve
November 11th, 2009
5:16 am
The two aren’t mutually exclusive Tater.
If I’m bein’ NEURONIC, however you’ve defined it, call me on it. All I acn say, right or wrong, is that sarcasm is as beautiful as our flag; support them both.
And why, every time I see Tater, do I think of Ron White’s “Tater Salad” bit. Hilarious, sarcasm included.
ncgary
November 11th, 2009
5:19 am
you guys getting the noahs ark flood in atlanta too
Couch Tater
November 11th, 2009
5:40 am
Hee. I watched the bit BAS. I’d forgotten that.
Bay Area Steve
November 11th, 2009
5:40 am
Preface: I know my own clarity is not reality.
But, it seems clear to me that our team’s future, at least over the next two years, is in the hands of Messrs. Schafer and Freeman. If those two are average big-leaguers, Braves are average. If those two are superior players, Braves are superior.
Bay Area Steve
November 11th, 2009
5:54 am
I miss journalist jimmy smith; I miss jjs.
I miss the random bits of BS that dude brought. I miss the interesting nonsense, the out-of-nowhere creativity. I feel like the non-baseball stuff, here, is more forced, now. Sadly, I know where the dude blogs now. I feel like Ted Williams, in his prime, is hitting for, well, nobody.
But, I’ve gotta ask, couch or recliner?
Couch Tater, with his better-than-most screen-name poses an important, life-altering question: couch or recliner?
And, does it matter if my living-room sets up better for a couch? At what point does one sacrifice good seating for comfortability? And, if a dude, let’s say me, only has the big-screen in one smallish room, making it impossible to have both a sofa, and a recliner, in prime seating and listening locations, which way does one lean?
All I know, is I’ve got the couch, perpindicular to the screen, and perfectly measured from the speakers, in no-less-than five different directions. But, a man should have a recliner. Somebody, anybody, help me.
Bay Area Steve
November 11th, 2009
5:59 am
And, wtf is scoots always saying that rookies are gonna play like rookies. Shut it, Mr. Reality. May 1, Schafer is a top-three CF in the NL. June 15, Heyward is Pujols, ‘cept in the OF, with the range of 2001 Andruw Jones, and an arm somewhere between Ichiro and Vlad. Aug 1, Freeman is DLee, but from the left side.
C’mon man, this stuff is obvious. Wake up.
tr
November 11th, 2009
6:50 am
Random (11:18 p.m.):
That was it. Thanks! Read a LOT lately and couldn’t recall. If his report was accurate, ya gotta figure that GH is headed to Philly unless something strange happens. Several were speculating here about him.
It’s gonna be an interesting off-season, especially if the Yank$ hang on to their free agent cash like they’ve said they would. Without them running up the standard rate, there could be some real bargains come spring training!
ncscoots
November 11th, 2009
6:50 am
I don’t care what anybody says, an overnight with BASteve toting the water can’t be bad, LOL. Way to go, my friend.
I’ll second his request on the flags, with this addition: don’t just do it today. But better today only than never. And find a veteran today and shake his or her hand. You don’t have to get all misty about it, just show some by-god props to somebody who doesn’t get enough. Lots of vets on this blog (though you don’t hear them speak of it much), so here’s my virtual “thanks” to all of them.
Recliner Tater
November 11th, 2009
6:50 am
Just doesn’t have the same ring.
Rob (from SC) no more arm brace
November 11th, 2009
6:56 am
Reds might trade Brandon Phillips. We should get him and let Prado play 1B
brent a.
November 11th, 2009
7:14 am
As much as I’d love to have B Phillips, I really don’t want to see Prado at first.
Would love to see Joey Votto at 1B, although, the MLBtrumors inclination was that the Reds would likely want to send a bad contract along with Votto, who is under team control until 2013. In short, he’s probably not getting traded.
Bay Area Steve
November 11th, 2009
7:20 am
I’m all but certain functioning alcoholics should not be given days off mid-week. I can’t seem to ascertain when I discovered this knowledge, but…
OK, so I seem to recall a post here talkin’ about a pitcher’s value. Somethin’ about if a pitcher is well-above-avergage for 24 starts, but horse-shit for eight… Seems like it was WillyWally, but, he’s my default guy…
Anybody got the stats for such a pitcher. Is it possible Lowe’s season was more valuable than a guy with better numbers?
Finally, I’ve found an off-season position I’m comfortable with: last year’s was Save Yunel; this year is Save Vazquez. And, if the MRI is clean, and if someone’ll lay me 8-1, I’ll take Huddy winnin’ the Cy Young.
eyeball kid
November 11th, 2009
7:30 am
DOB,
The Braves re-sign Hudson and slash 3 million of payroll in doing so. Why do they need to trade any of their pitchers?
eyeball kid
November 11th, 2009
7:34 am
What I’m saying is, there is no hurry to deal anyone. Wren placed himself in this position of strength, and he willuse it. Kawakami in the bullpen costs no more than Soriano did. It’s a wash, and Kawakami may be very well suited for this Chan Ho Park roll.
Bay Area Steve
November 11th, 2009
7:35 am
Couch Tater,
agreed that Recliner Tater doesn’t have the same ring. But, seriously, how do folks, like me, who have limited space, set up a room. Couch, or recliner. I’ve gotta think, one of man’s great questions…
eyeball kid
November 11th, 2009
7:37 am
Role, not roll. But hey, pun intended as Park had a very good year.
Jeff R
November 11th, 2009
7:38 am
“I think that’s becoming more and more the feeling, that you’re weighing the value of those draft picks – sometimes maybe overvaluing them,” Wren said. “I think the pendulum might have swung too far. You talk to general managers, I think the pendulum might have swung a little too far on the value of young players.”
Based on Wren’s comment’s from DOB’s report is Wren setting us up for: 1) no deals; 2) free agent signing(s); or 3) trading prospects? Or is he just commenting on the state of the game with no underlying message?
eyeball kid
November 11th, 2009
7:42 am
Trade Lowe and Freeman to Detroit for Miguel Cabrera. He’s under contract for 6 years at 19 million per. We have the right handed, power hitting 1st baseman.
Bay Area Steve
November 11th, 2009
7:43 am
Unbelievable how often folks here propose Prado for the 3; or McCann for the 3. How can you folks not balance the stick relative to the glove? McCann at 2: HOFer (at this pace). McCann at 3: Kotchmanesque (exaggeration, to make a point, but…) Prado at 4, awfully good so far, and maybe even a future all-star. Prado at 3, out of the league tomorrow.
Oh, a random thought: functioning alcoholics shouldn’t be given days off mid-week; ’tis not good for the health.
eyeball kid
November 11th, 2009
7:44 am
Detroit needs a veteran pitcher from Michigan and a young inexpensive replacement for Cabrera.
dap01
November 11th, 2009
7:50 am
Seems that we are hearing less actual rumors this year. Most things discussed here are manufactured here. Can’t wait for things to pick up.
Sign LaRoche, Sign Smoltz as a relief pitcher, Sign Dye, Deal a starting pitcher in the year ONLY if that depth is not needed. Sign Gonzo, Sign Wagner. Drop Johnson, Church, and Soriano.
No change in payroll.
eyeball kid
November 11th, 2009
7:51 am
dap01,
I like my daydream better.
O.J.
November 11th, 2009
7:52 am
Joey Votto anyone?
O.J.
November 11th, 2009
7:53 am
dap01, I dont see them signing Smoltz or Dye.
eyeball kid
November 11th, 2009
7:54 am
O.J.,
No – Miguel Cabrera. Furcal can advise him of the DUI roadblock locations in Atlanta.
O.J.
November 11th, 2009
7:55 am
Seeing as how Furcal doesnt play for Atlanta, not sure how he will do that. Besides, Joey Votto may be available, Cabrera not so much.
Bay Area Steve
November 11th, 2009
7:56 am
eyeball kid,
I’m certain it was a mistake, but I’m an ass, and lookin’ for an Anders/Lentz fight, so I’ll say: there is no available baseball player on our planet worth 19M for 6 years.
Now, Jessica Alba, yes, Penelope Cruz (for our leader) perhaps, but a 54 year old, 270 pound Miggy Cabrera? The Braves franchise would, without a doubt, be better served to spend the money on lottery tickets.
eyeball kid
November 11th, 2009
7:57 am
BAS,
Probably, but I like a guy that drinks.
toga party
November 11th, 2009
7:57 am
I just want to say thanks to all those who’ve served in our nation’s military. Thank you for your service and your sacrifice.
CB
November 11th, 2009
7:58 am
This is my favorite holiday of the year because we all need a day to remember those who have fallen and those who are serving or have served. We go around in our everyday lives and forget what we have in this country, the freedom to speak our minds that so many countries do not allow. I lost a brother in an unpopular VietNam war,many of those soldiers were called baby killers and worse. We need to honor every soldier who serves this country and make them know they are appreciated. You don’t have to agree with the politics of any war to know what they are fighting for. God bless our veterans.
Bay Area Steve
November 11th, 2009
8:04 am
DAP/dap01 confuses me; I’m not bright.
If Smoltz’d shove his ego down the shaft of his 6-iron, he’s the perfect candidate for our bullpen, ‘considering the Braves’ bullpen MO: cheap, with upside.
Someone here posted a valid point, that the Braves wouldn’t want to cut him again. I feel, in my hammered opinion, that if Wren thought Smoltz could help, and could help for cheap, he wouldn’t worry a second about having to release Smoltz again. It seems to me, from a coupla thousand miles away, Braves’ fans weren’t exactly boycotting ’cause of the Smoltz and Glavine releases.
eyeball kid
November 11th, 2009
8:06 am
BAS,
Like Eddie Mathews. Got drunk, nearly beat up a guy good in Cinncinnati, and played the next day. No harm , no foul.
eyeball kid
November 11th, 2009
8:09 am
No more former Braves please. Unless of course it’s Johnny Estrada or Jeff Francouer.
Jeff R
November 11th, 2009
8:13 am
LaRoche anyone? Overall, looks like teams are tightening up finacially. Wonder if LaRoche would be more open to arb, hoping that the game’s economics improve by 2011?
Or would he agree to a beefed up two-year deal?
eyeball kid
November 11th, 2009
8:17 am
Jeff R,
Seems to me the Braves are more impressed by his 1st half largesse than his 2nd half production.
Bay Area Steve
November 11th, 2009
8:27 am
Ok, I’m drunk,
but if LaRoche had anything approaching first-half largesse, he’d've been re-signed in August.
Bay Area Steve
November 11th, 2009
8:30 am
I think I’ll go to bed now. That’s discipline folks; you gotta know when to quit. ‘Tis all ’bout moderation.
eyeball kid
November 11th, 2009
8:30 am
BAS,
Come on over to the Cabrera side of things. You’d love him as a Brave.
dap01
November 11th, 2009
8:30 am
Eyeball: After looking at Cabrera’s stats, I agree, I like your dream better too!
AustinBrave
November 11th, 2009
8:32 am
Joey Votto and Brandon Phillips put Prado in right. Trade Medlen, Schafer, Bradon Jones, and Freeman. Then get Dye for left. We are set with pop.
Dawg
November 11th, 2009
8:36 am
Enter your comments here
CB
November 11th, 2009
8:40 am
eyeball kid, I have been on the Cabrera bandwagon for months and usually ridiculed for thinking it. A lot of things would need to be done, dumping Lowe and some more salary but he is the perfect man for our lineup.
NEW CARS
November 11th, 2009
8:41 am
Is Schaefer playing winter ball anywhere, or did he shut it down until spring training? I’m still liking the Conor Jackson angle for lf…He’s a young guy who has had a couple of injuries hold him back, but he seems to have good plate discipline and some pop.
O.J.
November 11th, 2009
8:50 am
Austin, I like your idea, all except for signing Dye, he is getting way too old to risk on that position
O.J.
November 11th, 2009
8:51 am
New Cars, I believe he is just now starting to workout for the offseason, just recently got the cast off.
Versiroth
November 11th, 2009
8:52 am
How about this? MTR states that the Reds could possibly be interested in trading Joey Votto. How about we offer Jurrjens straight up? That would give us a cheap, young power hitting # 4 hitter for years to come and we would still have a solid Rotation in Vazquez, Hudson, Lowe, Hanson and Kawakami. Votto hit 322 last year with an OBP over 400 and a slugging % over 500. I would do that in a heartbeat.
O.J.
November 11th, 2009
8:54 am
Versiroth, HELL NO!!!
O.J.
November 11th, 2009
8:55 am
Freeman would have to be part of any trade for a first baseman, unless its a 1 year rental, which Votto is not. No way you trade Jurrjens, a stud pitcher, for Votto.
AustinBrave
November 11th, 2009
8:56 am
I forgot throw in Kelly Johnson for there second baseman.
dpelfrey
November 11th, 2009
8:58 am
You guys are all silly. Talking about big trades and right-handed power hitters. The real important question for this offseason is who’s going to replace Greg Norton!!! That’s the biggest hole to fill in all of MLB.
David O'Brien
November 11th, 2009
9:00 am
Bay Area Steve, a singular performance to keep the fire going overnight. Damn funny stuff. Oh, and I agree on your 5:54. A man needs a recliner.
AustinBrave
November 11th, 2009
9:01 am
dpelfrey- Easy sign Nomar he can play 1st, ss,3rd plus till has some pop in his bat, and he went to Georgia Tech. He would love to come to Atlanta.
Lew
November 11th, 2009
9:02 am
Eyeball Kid-Because $3 million in savings would barely get us a couple dozen bats much less a significant RH hitter to swing it and hit HR’s?
David O'Brien
November 11th, 2009
9:06 am
New Cars: Schafer is getting his cast off in a couple of weeks, a little ahead of schedule (they thought it might be mid- to late-December. But obviously he’s not playing winter ball, that being the case. They believe he will probably be able to get the wrist and arm strengthened and flexible for the start of spring training, barring a setback between now and then.
As for expectations or plans for him this year, Wren told me, “I think we’ll just watch him in spring training. I don’t think we have any preconceived ideas. He just needs to play. I think the likelihood is he’ll be in the minor leagues to start the season, but we’re not going to predetermine that in November, either.”
Don
November 11th, 2009
9:11 am
In dealing with options to improve, it is amazing that the Braves ignore or do not consider the most significant need – the most severe and greatest problem. They keep Bobby Cox when his management procedures and lack thereof does more harm to the team than all of their other problems put together. To make this even more amazing – to solve this problem would be very simple.
McFann Ô
November 11th, 2009
9:14 am
McFanny Trade Bmac to the twins for Mauer.
Don’t be ridiculous. That’s a horrible trade! Worst one I’ve seen yet. The Twins would have to at least toss in Morneau along with Mauer.
Bay Area Steve I’ve been impressed that over the last few months you’ve come to see your boy more as he is, instead of what we want him to be. I believe you’ve got his current skill-set pinpointed as good, or better, than us all.
Thank you. This past season was sort of…humbling, I guess you could say. I mean, when it was getting ready to start, I had my head high–and my expectations even higher. I felt like this would be it, ya know? I thought Mark Bradley might possibly be correct–BMac, the MVP of the NL. He was gonna add on to ’08’s numbers with improved defense! Then as April progressed, I sorta felt like I was sulking around “with my tail between my legs”, so to speak.
When his eyes were opened, so were mine…at least somewhat. He’s still the best hitting catcher this side–or any side, if you’re NL–of the Mississippi. But his defense…while improved, I thought, it still has a few serious flaws. And while that was very hard for me to admit–let alone type on the World Wide Web–I knew then that it was time for me to stop pretending that he’s something he’s not…really. That’s not to say he doesn’t have his good points on defense! Which brings us to what you were referring to in your post: His setup (which isn’t his only good point on D, but that’s another post…or maybe book at this point…)
You make a good point about the early setup–I mean, about hitters trying to steal the target. There were many times when I’d see BMac’s eyes shift to the hitter’s eyes to be sure he wasn’t peeking. Even still, though…all the guy has to do is glance back for a second. That’s easy to miss. But I’d still have to agree that a late setup does more harm than good–it’s no good for the pitcher. I remember Smoltz talking about liking BMac’s setup and how quiet he is back there–that’s why John wanted him as his catcher.
I did mention that Mets’ guy (who Joe and Chip were in love with for whatever reason). His name’s Thole, and yeah–horrible setup, if I may say so. I think Baker of the Marlins is a little wild back there as well.
Anyway, looks like I’ve already written my College Thesis…and I haven’t even finished highschool yet.
Ah well, what the heck…
HAPPY VETERANS DAY!! And a hugh THANK YOU to all the Veterans out there! This Beautiful Country of ours wouldn’t be the same without you.
Don
November 11th, 2009
9:15 am
Granted that Bobby Cox has never been the sharpest knife in the drawer — But it is still amazing that even he could manage for over 20 years and still not understand the absolute necessity of teaching/ emphasizing/ demanding that hitters work the count, be selective, make the pitcher throw some pitches – if you are going to have consistant run production. He has never done this. And even more unbelievable is the fact that the AJC writers just ignore this. Of course, this is one of the main reasons that players like him — Most hitters like the freedom to just go up and hack away without any restrictions.
Versiroth
November 11th, 2009
9:16 am
O.J.
Votto would produce EVERY night… Jurrjens, once a week. We have 6 quality pitchers and need offense. Again, I’d trade Jurrjens for Votto in a second.
Efrim
November 11th, 2009
9:17 am
If you can get to it, I’d read Buster Olney’s blog this morning entitled “The Spawn of Moneyball”. Good read.
O.J.
November 11th, 2009
9:22 am
Well then, its a GREAT thing you arent a GM.
P-Town Brave
November 11th, 2009
9:22 am
CB-
I actually like the Cabrera idea. Do I see it happening…no, but I like it as one of his very best friends (Prado) and a guy who he hangs w/ in the offseason could be useful to help keep him in line as well as Bobby.
Like you said, really gives us the bat we need AND its always beneficial to have a guy on your side that used to really stick it to you.
McFann Ô
November 11th, 2009
9:24 am
I don’t think I’d trade Jurrjens for Votto…of course, I’d trade Lowe for him in half a heartbeat. I like Votto a lot.
Huh, but it’s not like the Reds are gonna give him away…
It’s too bad BMac’s brother retired. There’s your first baseman right there! And a lot of people here would get there wish–we’d have McCann on first base!
BravesfaninWis
November 11th, 2009
9:25 am
I like the idea of trading for Votto. I also like the idea of Votto and Phillips for Medlen, Freeman, B. Jones, and stick KJ in that deal. Move Prado to RF, or LF depending on what we do for either OF corner position. We would then get speed, and power in one deal. Then we can trade Lowe for some prospects, turn around and trade those prospects for a power hitting OF bat.
BravesfaninWis
November 11th, 2009
9:26 am
McFann,
Wasn’t Brad McCann a SS?
keylargo
November 11th, 2009
9:29 am
Don – I wish you would contribute something to the blog or shut up. I’ve read your tired crap before – many times.
P-Town Brave
November 11th, 2009
9:33 am
Oh, and I fully expect the Mets to make an all-out run at Brandon Phillips.
Lew
November 11th, 2009
9:40 am
keylargo-Why do you even bother?
David O'Brien
November 11th, 2009
9:41 am
Great stuff from Bob Knight, Coach K and Bill Parcells on SportsCenter, about their West Point experiences.
And let me offer a proverbial tip of the cap to all veterans and current enlisted men and women today. Regardless of whether we agree or disagree with the politics behind the ongoing wars or other wars, those who serve our country deserve utmost respect. They have mine.
beekay
November 11th, 2009
9:41 am
DOB and others
What is your take on Friday Night Lights…..I think it is one of the best shows in the past 10 years. I watched the first two episodes of the new season on Direct TV and they were as great as the first few seasons. I’m shocked that the ratings haven’t been better.
Lew
November 11th, 2009
9:42 am
Bravesfaninwis-If the Reds were to trade Votto for Jurrjens, do you really think that makes either the Braves or the Reds stronger and more likely to win their division? Rhetorical, Dude, because first of all it ain’t happening (nor would there likely be interest from either side) and it wouldn’t really help either team to begin with.
P-Town Brave
November 11th, 2009
9:46 am
beekay-
STOP IT RIGHT NOW!
Those of us who only have NBC won’t get to see it til Spring…I don’t need you to come on here and talk about it.
Thanks.
RHR
November 11th, 2009
9:48 am
Recliner Tater
Between that and the BAS late night chronicles, my day has started with a big smile. Ha. Thanks, boys.
McFann Ô
November 11th, 2009
9:49 am
BravesfaninWis–
Yeah. But he was playing 1B in the Marlins/Royals organizations IIRC.
P-Town Brave
November 11th, 2009
9:49 am
beekay-
And yes, as you can see…one of my fav shows
P-Town Brave
November 11th, 2009
9:50 am
McFann-
Yes, but Frank Thomas could still be playing 1b in the Marlins & Royals organizations
McFann Ô
November 11th, 2009
9:52 am
Brad McCann, baseball-reference.com
He played 248 games at 1B, 24 at 3B in the minors. Think he was a SS in HS…
tr
November 11th, 2009
9:53 am
Damon + Braves = decent fit
Boras + Damon (3 or 4 years @ $13M) = bad fit for anyone
Aaron Harang @ $12.5M
Bronson Arroyo @ $12.25 M
If that’s what’s available on the trade market, suddenly Lowe doesn’t look so untradeable.