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P-Town Brave
November 10th, 2009
5:31 pm
Wayne-
I’m just not seeing it my friend.
You know how they say some things are perceived by who you associate yourself with?
Well, baseball can be seen the same way.
In the offseason, Kelly associates himself with Francoeur and Boyer while Prado works out with Miguel Cabrera and Bobby Abreu…see a difference there?
I just think Prado is a true gamer and Kelly is one of those guys who looks great in theory or sitting next to your daughter at the dinner table, but just will never fully reach what he could be capable of.
Eavesdropper
November 10th, 2009
5:31 pm
Rob, Davis has already been mentioned to Atl in a ludicrous deal heads up for Vazquez!! CrAzY!!
Eavesdropper
November 10th, 2009
5:32 pm
Nick Johnson=hell NO!!
P-Town Brave
November 10th, 2009
5:32 pm
Rob-
It’d be nice to have a guy like Matt Young that could be used for late inning defense and pinch running purposes, you know, just in case the situation arises, or if we have Bay and Diaz in the Of
Eavesdropper
November 10th, 2009
5:34 pm
How bout Lyle Overbay?
MitchC
November 10th, 2009
5:34 pm
Dave, as I told Mark Bradley in his blog earlier today, I will be very disappointed if the Braves trade Vazquez. Yes, we only have him for one more year, and yes, he might well have had a career season, and yes, we might get something good for him in return. However, with all of that having been said, the upside for Vazquez is that he is still young, and, if we keep him, and can sign him to a deal for two or three years, he can help us in 2010, and maybe down the road.
If I were FW, I would try to trade either KK, Lowe, or both. A Hudson, Hanson, JJ, and Vazquez rotation would be a fine rotation, abit all righthanded. Then, if both KK and Lowe do go, we can maybe either trade for a cheap fifth starter, preferably lefthanded, because we have an all right handed rotation, or, bring someone up from the minor leagues.
Trading Vazquez would be a big mistake, and I really hope FW doesnt do it. The AJC writers will have many unhappy fans posting on their blogs if FW does that.
Eavesdropper
November 10th, 2009
5:35 pm
I’d rather see a Lowe for Todd Helton straight up deal than Nick Johnson
Eavesdropper
November 10th, 2009
5:37 pm
Hmmm, wonder if Helton would sign that ntc to go to Atlanta?
P-Town Brave
November 10th, 2009
5:37 pm
Eaves-
We already had Lyle Overbay last season. His name then was Casey Kotchman.
Bobby's Cox
November 10th, 2009
5:38 pm
DAP,
When Heyward and Freeman are ready to join the club, that’s 2 more lefties in the lineup. That’s why I like the idea of finding 2 righties to fill LF and 1B. You could platoon a righty at 1B with Freeman initially as well. You can call it an over-correction, but I’m looking ahead to when the big bats are ready to join the big league club. Of course, you could also ease in Heyward with a Diaz/Heyward platoon as well.
Bobby's Cox
November 10th, 2009
5:41 pm
Dave, as I told Mark Bradley in his blog earlier today, I will be very disappointed if the Braves trade Vazquez. Yes, we only have him for one more year, and yes, he might well have had a career season, and yes, we might get something good for him in return.
Not necessarily. I’m sure Wren is looking into that and trying to get a feel for the situation. He’s already looked into a JV contract extension. I’m sure he’s feeling out Vazquez’s agent and the market for a Vazquez trade. If Wren doesn’t think he can sign Vazquez to an extension, then he’d probably like to use the leverage of his performance last season in a trade, & vice versa depending on the market for Lowe, etc…
Smack
November 10th, 2009
5:44 pm
Rob, the only problem with Matt Young is he is 5′6″ in cleats and runs too often. He has a 61% success rate in steals thus far in Mexico. I would almost guess he will be left unprotected and be plucked away from us in the Rule 5 draft. I do like him to don’t get me wrong, but after the dis of having to do the Southern League all over again this year, it is clear Atlanta is not his future destination.
monty
November 10th, 2009
5:46 pm
Chris
“i see laroche getting a 3 year deal, and the braves will obviously not attepmt to give him that kind of contract. trading for cuddyer, derek lee, or kornerko, might be what the braves want to do.”
Why would the Braves not sign LaRoche to a 3 year deal but they would Lee or Cudyer? I don’t know about Cudyer but Lee had a better year than LaRoche.Would Lee agree to a shorter contract than LaRoche? WHy? Lee will demand more money,years or both than LaRoche. The Braves wouldn’t sign LARoche to 3 years because of Freeman (supposedly) but not for a lack of talent on LaRoche’s part.
Chris
November 10th, 2009
5:49 pm
monty
I didnt say that the braves would offer lee or cuddyer a 3 year deal. i said, i would expect them to attempt to trade for one of them to play in 2010, and see where freeman is at the end of the season.
tr
November 10th, 2009
5:51 pm
Read a quote from Utley (wish I could remember where and provide a link) a week or so ago about pushing the Phillies to go after his old college teammate, Garrett Atkins.
Bobby's Cox
November 10th, 2009
5:51 pm
There was some good stuff on page 4.
As unlikely as any trade proposal here is likely to come true, particularly a 3-team trade proposal, the one Eavesdropper came up with (and his reasoning) really does work IMO. Kudos Eavesdropper. I’ve been thinking for a long time that Lowe looks like a Cub as well. He fits in that rotation, is a big city guy, and the Cubs would appear to have money to spend on him after the sale of their team. If Texas really does like Milton Bradley that much, and want to move Hamilton to RF, then it seems plausible…
Also, I could see Smotlz back here next year as well as a reliever/potential closer. I was thinking the same thing when I saw he filed for free agency a few days ago. We need relievers.
Smack
November 10th, 2009
5:53 pm
Bobby’s Cox, I think John burned to many bridges to come back home.
monty
November 10th, 2009
5:57 pm
CHris
My bad. Helps when you read correctly.
Tomas
November 10th, 2009
5:59 pm
Torri Hunter won another gold glove.Why? Carlos Gomez had less errors and a higher UZR and range factor.
Wayne in Utah
November 10th, 2009
6:00 pm
P-town
I personally think the whole perception/association stuff is pure Barbra Streisand.
Wayne in Utah
November 10th, 2009
6:02 pm
Tomas
I believe the Golden Glove awards have become diluted in recent years with folks like Wright, McLouth, etc. Now Derek Jeter?
New York state of mind time!
ncgary
November 10th, 2009
6:04 pm
what most seem to forget is that even if vazquez doesnt extend, and keeps his era respectable this year less than 3.75, he will probably garner 2 of the top 50 draft picks for whoever loses him to free agency. picks 16 -50 usually produce some stars of their own 3 years down the road.
and brent a no one was better than wilton norman “wilt” chamberlain (august 21, 1936 – october 12, 1999), nicknamed wilt the stilt, the big dipper, and chairman of the boards
David O'Brien
November 10th, 2009
6:10 pm
Eavesdropper, so you think the Rockies are going to trade their franchise’s most popular player in order to take on most or all of Lowe’s contract?
Sure, why not.
ncgary
November 10th, 2009
6:11 pm
pistol pete maravich was close to wilt but no cigar
N8
November 10th, 2009
6:12 pm
Any word on Glavine DOB?
Eavesdropper
November 10th, 2009
6:13 pm
jk DOB, just kidding
David O'Brien
November 10th, 2009
6:13 pm
I’m not getting a sense that the Braves are very high on Nelson Cruz. Of course, at this time of the offseason there is so much posturing you never know how honest people are being and how much they might be hoping that something gets leaked and sends a signal that they’re not sold on this guy or not looking to trade that guy unless they get their doors blown off by an offer, etc.
But Cruz’s home/road splits are apparently a source of some caution (.931 home OPS/.778 road in 2009), especially given what that Arlington ballpark has done to inflate so many hitters’ numbers over the years….
Oh, and if they do or don’t trade Kawakami, I’m hearing it’ll have nothing to do with his being Japanese and the relationships they’ve developed in acquiring him, etc. If they don’t trade him, it’ll be because they think he’s a good value, pitched well in 2009 and can help them.
N8
November 10th, 2009
6:17 pm
“I believe the Golden Glove awards have become diluted in recent years.” Wayne
Wayne, the GG’s became a joke the second Rafael Viagra won a GG in 1999 when he was the DH in 128 of the 156 games he started that year.
That’s almost as ridiculous as two lip syncing dancers winning a Grammy.
N8
November 10th, 2009
6:18 pm
Lets try this again…..
“I believe the Golden Glove awards have become diluted in recent years.” Wayne
Wayne, the GG’s became a joke the second Rafael Viagra won a GG in 1999 when he was the DH in 128 of the 156 games he started that year.
That’s almost as ridiculous as two lip syncing dancers winning a Grammy.
N8
November 10th, 2009
6:21 pm
Lets try this again….. (try number three – gotta love this blog format)
“I believe the Golden Glove awards have become diluted in recent years.” Wayne
Wayne, the GG’s became a joke the second Rafael “I didn’t do steroids” won a GG in 1999 when he was the DH in 128 of the 156 games he started that year.
That’s almost as ridiculous as two lip syncing dancers winning a Grammy.
Jeff R
November 10th, 2009
6:22 pm
LOwe might be a fit with Cubs, as mentioned, and, perhaps, with the Cardinals, though they don’t have the budget leeway that Chicago has.
Tomas
November 10th, 2009
6:22 pm
No Jeter deserved it this year. 8 errors and a 6.6 UZR. Only players comparible are Erick Aybar, and Elvis Andrus both who made more than 11 errors.
Tomas
November 10th, 2009
6:28 pm
Can Derrosa play a good outfield?????
Roman Gal
November 10th, 2009
6:30 pm
I’m betting the NL has a DH within 5 years.
Oh, geez. I hope not. I like the games to last around 3 hours, not 4.
Chris
November 10th, 2009
6:33 pm
i really think the braves are looking for a 1st baseman to be that big right handed bat, and an outfielder that would be a lesser hitter to gap until heyward comes up to the bigs or if they trade diaz (which i dont think diaz would be traded)if that is the case, maybe, just maybe, the braves could trade kawakami or lowe, seeing for the fact that they would pick up a 1st basebamm with one year left untul free agency. and all the while, keeping vazquez or giving him an extension
TnBrian
November 10th, 2009
6:34 pm
I’ll trust the Braves people if they aren’t crazy about Cruz. They should know more about him than any of us do by talking around, getting some inside stuff. Attitude, streaky hitter, whatever they’ve heard or seen. Or, maybe they’ve gotten a feel for what it might take to bring him to Atlanta & feel it’s way too much. Either way, I trust Wren & his people over myself or anybody here.
Chris
November 10th, 2009
6:34 pm
sorry for my spelling
TnBrian
November 10th, 2009
6:36 pm
Chris, I think you might be right. They could just as easily be looking for a slugging 1st baseman as one in the OF. Doesn’t matter, as long as they can get a guy for the cleanup position.
Alvin
November 10th, 2009
6:36 pm
DOB- Where does all this (assuming ATL gets a power righthanded bat in the OF and JH is ready) leave Diaz? I think he proved himself last year as an everyday player but appears he could end up being the odd man out? Is that correct?
Also- check out http://www.myspace.com/jonathantylermusic
Think you will really like them!!
Wayne in Utah
November 10th, 2009
6:37 pm
Too much speculatin’ going on. Maybe we should just wait and see what Frank has up his sleeve.
Tomas
November 10th, 2009
6:37 pm
First off Lowe isn’t a good fit for anyone, perhaps it has to do with his horrible season. He doesn’t fit in an AL team because the AL is far too superior. And he doesn’t fit in a hitter ball park because he gives up a lot of homers.
Trade D.Lowe to LAD for Loney?????
wjones
November 10th, 2009
6:40 pm
“And he doesn’t fit in a hitter ball park because he gives up a lot of homers.”
Except for the fact that Lowe doesn’t give up many homers. Look it up.
RJB in DC
November 10th, 2009
6:43 pm
Daslied
Your 4:05 post on Andruw’s projected stats just caused me to spill mountain dew all over my good shirt.
Are you sure you just didn’t take Norton’s numbers and just add the 30 dingers?
wjones
November 10th, 2009
6:45 pm
49 pitchers in the NL gave up more homers than Lowe, many of whom pitched far fewer innings.
nolie
November 10th, 2009
6:46 pm
Can I get a definition of middle age? (RHR)
look in the mirror. OMG I can’t believe I said that. I’m in big trouble now.
Tennbravefan
November 10th, 2009
6:46 pm
Dont know if you all saw it, but Buster Olney just said on Sportscenter that “many GM’s feel the Braves will deal Vasquez to get that big bat they need…with Texas as a possible desination”.
Tomas
November 10th, 2009
6:47 pm
Sign Mark Derrosa to 2 yrs 16 million.
Sign Tim Hudson to 3yrs 27 million.
Trade D.Lowe for James Loney(giving dodgers some cash 5mill seems fair)
Sign Billy Wagner to 1yr 8 million.
Win WS….
sidslidkid
November 10th, 2009
6:48 pm
I wonder if the Tigers would be willing to work out a deal involving Lowe. Maybe Aubrey Huffand a good prospect. Personally, I hope we keep Lowe. But if the only way we can loosen up Liberty Media’s purse strings is by moving one of our starters, then I guess Wren has no choice. I’m betting the Tigers are going to be a little weary about dealing prospects, especially to the Braves.
sidslidkid
November 10th, 2009
6:50 pm
EDIT:
I wonder if the Tigers would be willing to work out a deal involving Lowe. Maybe Aubrey Huffand and a good prospect. Personally, I hope we keep Lowe. But if the only way we can loosen up Liberty Media’s purse strings is by moving one of our starters, then I guess Wren has no choice. I’m betting the Tigers are going to be a little weary about dealing prospects, especially to the Braves.
brian
November 10th, 2009
6:52 pm
DOB – do you think the Braves leaked their consideration of extending Vazquez to try and drive up his value? In other words, we do not have to trade him. In fact we would love to keep him, but if we get an offer that significantly helps our team we have the flexibility to move him
Tennbravefan
November 10th, 2009
6:54 pm
The Dodgers wont take Lowe back, I would trade them Vasquez but only for Kemp or Either. If the Braves dump a pitcher for salary it should be Lowe, if they trade Vasquez its got to be a great deal (Kemp, D. Lee) By the way NO NELSON CRUZ!!!!
Bill Bonner
November 10th, 2009
6:55 pm
I think if I were Frank Wren I would be in no hurry to trade a pitcher over the winter. Those who need starters are facing a thin FA market, and money’s getting scarce for most teams, so trades will be the preferred method. I’d sit back and let the offers come to me. If spring comes without a deal, hold steady. Someone will get desperate by opening day. Besides, one of our guys could get hurt.
I know we’d all like some instant gratification here, but patience will be rewarded.
njbraves
November 10th, 2009
6:56 pm
Why on Earth would the Dodgers trade for Lowe??? They could have signed him last year if they wanted to keep him. Now they’re going to trade Loney for him?? Sure they are. Some of you folks need to come back to earth with these trade ideas. No GM is going to take on $45 million for Lowe and give you good young players in return. Like it or not, the Braves best chance of acquiring a good player in a trade, is to trade Javy. D. Lowe will be a Brave next year.
sidslidkid
November 10th, 2009
6:57 pm
brian,
Signing Javy to an extension is going to cost some real money. I don’t know if the Braves are going to spend any more money on pitching this year. I’d love to see it happen, he’s a great pitcher. But I’d put my money on 100% of our remaining salary budget going to offense and the pen.
UNCBrave
November 10th, 2009
6:58 pm
Any word DOB on Hudson’s MRI?
OR If the BRAVES are not interested in OF Nelson Cruz, which OF’s are they interested in?
Thanks
Tomas
November 10th, 2009
6:58 pm
Would the dodgers consider bringing Lowe back.
ncscoots
November 10th, 2009
7:01 pm
In the offseason, Kelly associates himself with Francoeur and Boyer while Prado works out with Miguel Cabrera and Bobby Abreu…see a difference there?
You mean, that a Southern kid hangs out with other Southern guys, and a Latin kid hangs out with other Latin guys? And that gives you some “perception” about the players in question?
I mean, I never thought you were the brightest bulb in the lamp, but that thought is so dim as to warrant a new definition of cretin.
David O'Brien
November 10th, 2009
7:03 pm
UNCBrave, no word on Hudson’s MRI. But not really surprising, since he didn’t get it until today and it has to be examined by the insurance company’s medical people.
TnBrian
November 10th, 2009
7:05 pm
Bill Bonner, I think everybody needs to read your post there because you’re spot on. I hope Wren is thinking that way because you know that GM’s will be sweating bullets come late December/January when they’re short on quality pitching. Then the Braves will have the huge upper hand. Unless they get an offer they can’t refuse, I say wait it out. I’d like to know right now what’s going on, but I don’t think that’s reality.
Geo123
November 10th, 2009
7:05 pm
Tomas,
Derosa can play a descent OF. He is however a far better 3B or 2B. I think the contract numbers you quote for him are fair but there’s no way you get Looney from the Dodgers for Lowe and eat only that amount of money. Lowe is overpaid by at least 5 million per year if not more. Which means you’d have to give them 15 to 20 million. He’s not a #1 or a #2 which is what you’re currently paying him to be and with the Dodgers current financial problems (the McCourt’s divorce) there is no way they take on the bloated contract, You would probably have to take on one of thei rbloated contracts like Pierre to have it even be considered….
Tomas
November 10th, 2009
6:28 pm
Can Derrosa play a good outfield?????
BravesfaninWis
November 10th, 2009
7:09 pm
So what options are the Braves actually exploring at the GM Meetings? That is the title of this blog, however nothing at all is suggested except a slim chance that the Braves may consider trying to extend Vazquez but haven’t yet said anything to Javy or his agent. So again, what options are they exploring?
So far all I have read are from the usual teams like Boston, Yankees, Mets, Angels, and Phillies who seem to have a interest in every single free agent regardless of age, position, or what side of the plate they hit from. The Braves can’t even get their obvious news out in a timely manner, that being the extension of Tim Hudson. Damn, this is a boring offseason.
David O'Brien
November 10th, 2009
7:10 pm
I went back and added to/clarified my 6:13 comment about Cruz.
ccrider
November 10th, 2009
7:11 pm
I don’t know the direction the Braves will take, but if their going to trade some of our top prospects then I hope it’s for a difference maker like Adrian Gonzalez.
Nelson Cruz isn’t going to be a cleanup hitter, maybe a good 6th spot guy. Teams are not going to fear his bat due to low average, strikeouts, hitting with runners in scoring position and OBP.
I personally would rather, if they can’t trade Lowe, go for Carlos Delgado for 1B and Mike Cameron in CF with McLouth moving to left. If, Delgado gets back close to his old self and Cameron has an average year , it would add 45 hrs between the two and give us a good RH hitter against Lefties that plays very good defense.
It’s not the solution we want, but overall it’s an improvement that doesn’t require givng up top prospects.
In my dreams, I would trade for A. Gonzalez, Trade D. Lowe and sign Jason Bay.
McLouth
Prado
Chipper
A.Gonzalez
Bay
McCann
Escobar
Eventually Heyward( Diaz Until then.)
Vazquez
Jurrjens
Hanson
Hudson
KK
I can dream can’t I
sidslidkid
November 10th, 2009
7:12 pm
BravesfaninWis
November 10th, 2009
7:09 pm
“Damn, this is a boring offseason.”
The offseason hasn’t even been here a week yet!
David O'Brien
November 10th, 2009
7:15 pm
Boston, Yankees, Mets, Angels, and Phillies who seem to have a interest in every single free agent regardless of age, position, or what side of the plate they hit from. — BravesfaninWisc
You might also have heard that four of those teams have huge payrolls and are always involved in the highest-profile free-agent pursuits, the ones that often set the market and/or start the dominoes falling for the subsequent free agents. And the other of those teams has played in the past two World Series and has a couple of high-profile needs and/or free agents, and a front office that perhaps has a different philosophy than the Braves in discussing or strategically leaking names of players they might be targeting.
ncgary
November 10th, 2009
7:15 pm
good dream cc, now dream in ted turner or arthur blank to buy them and maybe it would happen
McFann Ô
November 10th, 2009
7:16 pm
Roman Gal Oh, geez. I hope not. I like the games to last around 3 hours, not 4.
Same here. Do NOT like the DH. I think it’s lame…
nolie
November 10th, 2009
7:16 pm
f the Atlanta Journal-Constitution offers that the Braves are looking to deal Javier Vazquez, or offer him a contract extension. The Dodgers are mentioned as a trade partner. However, it is highly unlikely that he will end up [...] (Rumors)
given his contract only an absolute moron would mention the Dodgers as a trade partner. sigh
David O'Brien
November 10th, 2009
7:21 pm
Torri Hunter won another gold glove.Why? Carlos Gomez had less errors and a higher UZR and range factor. — Tomas
Tomas, do you know who votes for Gold Gloves? It’s the managers and coaches. Do you realize how many of them probably even know what range factor and especially UZR are, much less care about how to find them?
Many or most of them probably get the ballot, think about who’s the best fielder they’ve seen at each position during the season, perhaps ask someone who won it the previous year at a position where they’re having trouble coming up with a clear winner, then quickly fill out the ballot and hand it in.
ToastyFire
November 10th, 2009
7:24 pm
Re: Kelly
He had an injured wrist during the first half. We’ve seen around the league over and over how a injured wrist can kill a players ability to hot. And while the 2nd half might be a small sample size for some. Is that any much different than the 263 PA he had in the first half? Both are incredibly small sample sizes. Whoever gets Kelly next year (if he plays a full season) will get a guy who posts around a 790-810 OPS and okay defense at 2nd. Hopefully that’s what we’ll get out of Prado.
CB
November 10th, 2009
7:26 pm
You think maybe Mitchell really moved to Wisconsin?
nolie
November 10th, 2009
7:26 pm
s that a little too aggressive for you guys, do you think the back end of the rotation would be a little too weak. (NC)
I seriously doubt that they are gonna trade two starters
ncgary
November 10th, 2009
7:33 pm
ryota igarashi, a right-handed reliever with the tokyo yakult swallows of japan’s central league, filed for free agency on monday, making himself eligible to be signed by a major league team, the associated press reported.
igarashi, 30, shares the record for throwing the fastest pitch in the japanese major leagues, at 98.75 mph. he has spent his entire 11-year career with the swallows, amassing 630 strikeouts in 570 innings pitched. he has hired agent arn tellem, who also represents hideki matsui.
igarashi was 3-2 with a 3.19 era and three saves in 56 games in 2009. his best season was in 2004, when he recorded 37 saves.
a total of 87 players from japan’s professional leagues were eligible to file for free agency. in that country’s system, a player becomes eligible to sign overseas after nine seasons.
lisa winston is a reporter for mlb.com. this story was not subject to the approval of major league baseball or its clubs.
DabNabIt
November 10th, 2009
7:34 pm
Isn’t that hilarious?
I moved to Dallas. Cool, huh? MITCHEL
I liked the first one better
Rock On......
November 10th, 2009
7:36 pm
DOB…you mean like most Little League All Star teams are voted on? Wow, the Gold Glove Award just sank to a new level!
Rock On......
November 10th, 2009
7:38 pm
DabNabIt….personally I like Dadgum better……..just sayin
sidslidkid
November 10th, 2009
7:38 pm
ncgary,
Arn Tellem? Isn’t he Furcal’s agent? If so, you can bet Wren won’t be very interested… not that you said he was.
Jeff R
November 10th, 2009
7:40 pm
TnBrian… You raise an interesting point about Cruz’s attitude problems (or reported problems).
Cox and company tend to shy away from players who don’t fit easily into the team’s personality (bland corporate, in my opinion). Escobar has been an exception, though. As I recall, there was some grumbling about his attitude during the season. Again, as I remember, Cox wasn’t very happy with him at times.
I think Escobar worked with his temper a bit better as the season progressed. I think the latin coaches/players had something to do with that. Might hold true for Cruz too. Besides, a little fire on a club isn’t a bad thing , in my estimation.
ccrider
November 10th, 2009
7:40 pm
ncgary: I am focusing on your suggestion; UGH UGH; rats it still comes up Liberty Media. But I guess with our starting pitching a lineup of: McLouth, Prado, Chipper, Delgado, McCann, Escobar, Cameron and Diaz/Heyward is at least better than last years. No more Loaf, or Kotchman + a full season of Prado, McLouth and a partial season of Heyward is better than nothing.
lavell12
November 10th, 2009
7:49 pm
DOB
Do you know how Heyward is doing? I haven’t heard anyting recently.
DabNabIt
November 10th, 2009
7:54 pm
I would trade them Vasquez but only for Kemp or Either. (TennBR)
Vazquez has a no trade clause to AL & NL West teams. He ain’t going to LA
David O'Brien
November 10th, 2009
7:55 pm
Jordan Schafer is ahead of schedule with his recovery from wrist surgery, Wren told me today. Said he should be ready for start of spring training, but that they would just wait to see how he does in spring training and not put any expectations or pressure on him going in.
Sounds like he’ll likely start out the season in the minors.
Rock On......
November 10th, 2009
7:56 pm
DOB…thank you very much (at 6:13) for putting to rest the Japanese-thing about KK. Nobody cares if he is Japanese, Korean, Ethiopian or whatever. Can you pitch and pitch well? If he is traded I and many others could give a rip about his nationality or if it will chap any future players from that country. What will it bring us in return and are we a better team after the trade. It is amazing to me that anyone on this blog would have thought about nationality when trading a player or not trading a player. It is comforting to see we were still able to attract African-American players post-Aaron or that we have Dominican players post-Furcal.
sidslidkid
November 10th, 2009
7:56 pm
lavell12,
Heyward isn’t playing. He’s got a back/butt thing going on.
David O'Brien
November 10th, 2009
7:57 pm
Oh, and apparently McLouth noticed as he was driving back to Michigan after the final game of the season that he wasn’t seeing the green highway signs as clearly as he used to. So when he got home, he made an appointment with a Univ. of Michigan doctor and got his eyes checked. Needed contacts. Braves are glad he did it early in offseason, since it’ll give him a few months to get used to them.
sidslidkid
November 10th, 2009
8:00 pm
That’s some good insider news about McLouth’s vision. Let’s hope it makes a difference.
David O'Brien
November 10th, 2009
8:00 pm
Rock On: Pretty much, yes.
But how did it “just sink to a new level” when that’s also the way it’s been voted on since 1965? (A panel of sportswriters chose them in the first seven years of the awards). Remember when Palmeiro won a 1B Gold Glove even though he DH’d almost the entire season? That’s when some people started asking who did voting for Gold Gloves, assuming (incorrectly) that it was us writers who made that dubious choice.
nolie
November 10th, 2009
8:00 pm
Cool. I hope it helps Nate hit a bit better
Rock On......
November 10th, 2009
8:04 pm
sidslid…..back/butt thing?…Joe Tex’s song – Ain’t Gonna Bump No more With No Big Fat Woman- just popped into my head. Can’t stop laughing. Hilarious. Time for a beer. Stop it…stop it!
AdirondackDave
November 10th, 2009
8:04 pm
lavell12 — Heyward is done for the season. He had a posterior muscle problem of some sort so they shut him down in Arizona.
Long time Braves fan
November 10th, 2009
8:04 pm
Great news about McLouth and Schafer. And with Heyward coming on and Diaz returning, the Braves will soon have a very good outfield even if they don’t go after a high priced outfielder. I hope they find someone on a one year contract while Heyward and Schafer refine themselves at AAA.
P. W. Hjort
November 10th, 2009
8:06 pm
That’s some good insider news about McLouth’s vision. Let’s hope it makes a difference.
Great news, actually. I was about ready to give up on him, too. Now I’m actually looking forward to seeing what he can do. I hope he adjusts and it helps. What a great boost that’d be.
ncgary
November 10th, 2009
8:08 pm
what about cubs get lowe, tampa bay gets k johnson and bradley, bravos get bj upton and ben zobrrist, then prado moves to 1b. we get 2 young right handed bats with speed and power, maybe throw something else in to get percival if hes healthy again
lavell12
November 10th, 2009
8:09 pm
DOB
Talking to Wren did you get a sense that he thought that Jordan’s injury was why he struggled or did he believe that Jordan wasn’t ready?
Rock On......
November 10th, 2009
8:09 pm
DOB…new level for me anyway. I held it(Gold Glove)in somewhat higher esteem. Ah, awards. They must be on steroids too.
Oh, and again for the record, I hope KK stays. Random will like that. Sure hate to see this blog if KK is traded.
sidslidkid
November 10th, 2009
8:10 pm
Rock On……
I may join you on the beer adventure. Why not? I don’t have to be at work for another 11 hours.
lavell12
November 10th, 2009
8:10 pm
AdirondackDave- I know that about Heyward I want to know if he isn’t going to play in the winter league and how he is doing now with that injury.
ncgary
November 10th, 2009
8:12 pm
actually zobrist is a switch hitter, natural right handed
Couch Tater
November 10th, 2009
8:12 pm
DOB,
Marvin Miller. HOF?
AdirondackDave
November 10th, 2009
8:13 pm
Heyward, Schafer, and Freeman should provide plenty of punch and strong defense at Gwinnett if that’s where they start the season.