12:31 am November 10, 2009, by David O'Brien
November 14th, 20094:57 pm
What about Vazquez and Hicks (New Cars)
right now Hicks is practically worthless to any other club. he has failed to hit better than 230ish even though he has been old for the levels he has played in-not a good sign. He has improved some for a coupla months, but it is too early for that to be significant yet.he would make no difference in a deal involving those players, but the real fact is that it would take an overwhelming deal to get Youk, he is very popular up thar.
VA Braves Lifer
November 14th, 20094:58 pm
I am not against the idea of giving Boston a couple of prospects not named Freeman and Heyward in the trade either that could help them land AGon.
November 14th, 20095:00 pm
The one year rental may not be as big of a deal for Boston seeing as they are the second largest market. Just a thought
I think it’s as much about the fact that Youk is a special player who is very popular and also kinda embodies what the current Red Sox cadre wants in a player. would be hard to pry away
November 14th, 20095:06 pm
nolie: I got the idea from this article http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2009/11/sox_doing_their.html. In it, it states the the Redsox would like to sign both a free agent OF and Pitcher so they can focus there resources on trading for AGon. Lackey right now is the only FA pitcher that can be considered a true ace and will command a high salary. Why not make a trade for Vazquez instead and use the money to resign Beckett. If Vazquez performs well in Boston resign him too. I really do not think resigning Vazquez will be much of a task for the Redsox and they get a trail run to see if they want to.
November 14th, 20095:08 pm
Typo “their resources”
November 14th, 20095:16 pm
I’d do it in a heartbeat-Vaz for Youk. That right there is enough to make me think that they wouldn’t, IYKWIM. You’re reasoning seems pretty sound, I just don’t think you gave enough consideration to his iconic status up there. I know a buncha Sox fans and they all absolutely love the guy, and he is a stast-org kinda player.
November 14th, 20095:22 pm
Yeah you are right. I knew right away that I was off when three different people shot down the idea in like two seconds. The search for our first baseman continues on (just not in Boston).
November 14th, 20095:26 pm
abwright-Re: your 4:28 post. I was thinking the exact same thought.
November 14th, 20095:32 pm
N8 (November 14th, 2009 12:55 pm): “CB, my post came across more pompous, that it should have. The blog isn’t about being “original”, but some do play the gotcha game.
“But as I stated, but I don’t find it odd that somebody would have come up with the idea of trading Lowe and keeping (and maybe extending Vazquez) a month ago.
“I find it incredibly hard to believe than any of us that paid attention last year, wouldn’t have come up with that idea, due to it being so obvious.”
Pepperidge Blogs Remembers
Coach (May 11th, 2009 12:36 am): “Javier Vasquez is almost certain to be traded sometime during this season or soon after the conclusion of the 2009 campaign. Atlanta is committed to Kawakami and with Hanson, Morton and Medlen waiting in the wings along with the return of Tim Hudson, something has to give.”
Coach (May 29th, 2009 6:10 pm): Javier Vasquez should be traded. Again, for even more obvious reasons (his value will never be higher and the Braves save 11.5 million). Glavine can show up, pitch the rest of this season and please retire.”
November 14th, 20095:40 pm
2 interesting facts about Willingham:
- he had an OPS 0f 1.048 against lefties last year (I’ll take it)
- he was 2 for 27 with an OPS of .148 (eww) at Turner Field
Boogs Hotel Camera!
November 14th, 20095:43 pm
Tennbravefan – he was 2 for 27 with an OPS of .148 (eww) at Turner Field…
Who were the pitchers he went 2 for 27 against?
i think that stat doesnt apply when it comes to the ted cus its against pitchers he wouldnt be hitting against. it doesnt make sence to say eww to that stat.
November 14th, 20095:44 pm
tangelo (November 14th, 2009 1:53 pm): “Maybe Georgia humidity adversely affected Mr. Lowe”
DOB</strong(November 14th, 2009 1:57 pm): “I asked Derek about the heat/humidity in the last week of the season, and he insisted that hadn’t affected him adversely this season, that it wasn’t the reason for his struggles. But you gotta wonder (dude never makes excuses, to his credit)…”
Speaking of “softball”, I think we’ve got a ringer here in so-called “tangelo“.
Jim Guckert, anyone?
November 14th, 20095:46 pm
DOB (November 14th, 2009 1:57 pm): “I asked Derek about the heat/humidity in the last week of the season, and he insisted that hadn’t affected him adversely this season, that it wasn’t the reason for his struggles. But you gotta wonder (dude never makes excuses, to his credit)…”
Eric In Albany N.Y.
November 14th, 20095:47 pm
Boogs Hotel Camera!… Agreed but you never know till you see him do something with the bat in atlanta
November 14th, 20096:01 pm
DAP (November 14th, 2009 4:28 pm): “I disagree that the rotation is likely to down grade a little. A full season of Hanson will make an improvement over last year and I think Hudson will pitch well. Certainly better than Lowe did last year. So, especially if Lowe is traded, I think there is a good chance the rotation overall could be better.”
Hope yer right — we’ll see.
Working against us is a possible sophomore slump from Hanson, Jurrjens’ performance actually reflecting his 2009 peripherals, Vazquez regressing to his career mean, lingering effects from Hudson’s surgery, the league’s hitters “catching up” to Kawakami and/or Hanson and, of course, unforeseen injuries.
Working for us is . . . . .
Hope that none of that happens.
Coach was always ahead of the curve wasn’t he?
November 14th, 20096:05 pm
nolie (November 14th, 2009 4:39 pm): “no way to know, but I agree with Ransom.”
Steve from OH
November 14th, 20096:07 pm
Jurrjens’ performance actually reflecting his 2009 peripherals
In fairess, JJ’s tRA+ was 118, so his peripherals were well above-average to begin with.
His FIP was 3.68, which was the same as his ERA last year (ERA+ last year was 114). I think a 3.50 ERA is a perfectly reasonable assumption and I’ll take that any day…
November 14th, 20096:08 pm
Un-italicize the last two paragraphs while reading, please…
November 14th, 20096:12 pm
CB (November 14th, 2009 2:52 pm): “why the rolly eyes?”
“Thank God “?
November 14th, 20096:21 pm
Random,I love my wife but hey, I don’t want another one just like her.
Rob (from SC) no more arm brace
November 14th, 20096:31 pm
I wonder if Josh Willingham could play first base?
My school get so close then shoots itself in the foot again.
November 14th, 20096:39 pm
abwright (November 14th, 2009 4:34 pm): “If Vazquez is traded, how does 2010’s rotation stack up against 2009’s?”
Here’s my take:
JJJ 2010 >= JJJ 2009 … not likely; it’s a toss-up as to whether he maintains
Lowe 2010 > Lowe 2009 … maybe
Kawakami 2010 > Kawakami 2009 … good chance
Hudson 2010 > Vazquez 2009 … not likely
Hanson 2010 > Hanson 2009 + Reyes 2009 + Medlen 2009 … another toss-up
So, it is not very likely that the Braves 2010 rotation (with Lowe rather than Vazquez) will be better than the Braves 2009 rotation. Imo.
P. W. Hjort
November 14th, 20096:47 pm
He has played 4 innings in 3 major-league games at 1st. He played 68 games at 1st in the minors, including 17 at AA in 2004. So.. maybe? I’d guess we’ll need the opinion of a talent evaluator.
November 14th, 20096:54 pm
N8 (November 14th, 2009 4:39 pm): “I disagree (and I’m not cranky today, btw [yes, dear -- of course you're not ] ), that an absolute stud was needed.”
“After the team traded for McLouth (sending Schafer down), traded Frenchy for Church, put Prado at 2B fulltime, called up Hanson, and then eventually traded for LaRoche….. they were one of the better teams in baseball.
“To me it’s that simple. Don’t over think it. Don’t overspend. I’d make minor tweaks and fixes, yet leave wiggle room to trade.”
Maybe so — we’ll see.
I think, though, that Church is probably gone (nontendered), and LaRoche is not yet signed. In the absence of both, I think more than minor tweaks will be needed.
chip off the ol block
November 14th, 20097:01 pm
I’ve been wondering, if Roachy wanted a 3, 4 year contract why not sign him to that and when Freddie is ready we can trade Adam for whatever our need is at the time?
This helps not only Adam but the Braves also, if Freddie has some set backs or something then we still have Adam at first
November 14th, 20097:14 pm
If the Braves are/were interested in Willingham that leads me to believe to expect a guy like him, maybe Cameron who’s way better defensively. I read where Uggla doesn’t want to move to the OF & whether it’s his choice or not I can’t see the Braves trading for him if they feel he’s going to be pouting about switching positions.
My whole problem with getting a Cameron would be if he’s really a cleanup hitter. He’s not & I’d like to see them get one of those legit cleanup hitters. Even if they sign LaRoche Bobby’s not going to bat him there. Another year of watching McCann batting there & I’ll have a stroke.
November 14th, 20097:19 pm
I think Wren should offer arbitration to Soriano, Gonzo and LaRoche, with the hope that the latter two agree.
As mentioned earlier, it’s hard to gauge the market for LaRoche’s services, given the current economics of the game. Or, more precisely, it’s hard to gauge the market for the sort of multi-year contract he would covet. Perhaps he’d be willing to return to the Braves under an arbitrated contract for a season, thereby having the chance to put up more good numbers and, then, enter the market in the winter of 2010, when the economics might be more favorable. Maybe.
I think Soriano and Gonzo are good bets to land multi-year deals. If that’s likely, and the Braves pick up draft choices for those two, a move to sign Wagner may make sense.
November 14th, 20097:32 pm
Perhaps he’d be willing to return to the Braves under an arbitrated contract for a season, thereby having the chance to put up more good numbers and, then, enter the market in the winter of 2010, when the economics might be more favorable. Maybe. (Jeff R0
and take the chance of having a poorer year and depressing his value? He’d have to be pretty foolish to do that. He is about the cream of the FA first basemen,certainly very near the top. I think he could get a 3/25 from some team, but likely not the Braves. He has hinted at least that he is not really willing to give a big discount to the Braves.
I’d like to see them re-sign him, but I fear the odds are kinda long.
November 14th, 20097:35 pm
maybe 3/25 is a bit high, but 3/20 should be very attainable for him and I’ll be surprised if the Braves are willing to go three years. we’ll see.
November 14th, 20097:49 pm
Yuk! Why bother discussing Willingham? He had a miserable slump to end his 09 campaign. Be smart and pass. Don’t need another Church type caliber player. We need a slugger…No excuses this time around.
November 14th, 20097:53 pm
cloud nine. i dont think anyone thinks willingham is the answer by any meas. i think its a move to fill an outfield spot and add right handed bats as not that big of a cost i dont think he is what the braves would consider the big boper, just another righty
Anybody watch that ‘96 WS clip over on the Braves homepage? Well, just listening to McCarver get so tickled when Pettite picked off Andruw I thought to myself how much the Braves were hated back in the day. The Yankees were just coming into their own with that group while Atlanta had been there 3 years in a row. Makes you realize that if you’re good you will be despised & I’m ready to be hated again.
We will be back next year with that pitching. Holy sh**… imagine if Hudson is what he was before the surgery to go with an experienced JJ/Hanson/KK & Javy(hopefully) to lead the way? I feel Lowe will be gone, he needs to go. Best rotation in the majors for 2010 & beyond & I’m betting on it.
November 14th, 20097:57 pm
Braves currently getting embarrassed on MLBTV. It’s Sheets striking out 16 Braves in ‘04. Yuk!
Keep your fingers crossed for Javy, fans. We need this guy’s electric stuff & experience to lead the way. Uncalled for to trade this guy.
November 14th, 20097:58 pm
At least Skip is on!!!
November 14th, 20098:02 pm
Rob, I was watching that SCar-Fla game thinking same thing, how Spurrier’s boys just can’t get over the hump. I mean, if they score there — and it looked like they were going to — they’ve got a lead at home and a real chance to win. Instead they throw an INT that’s returned nearly the length, completely changes the game….
There’s a store, I think it’s called simply Rock, in East Atlanta, that’s going out of biz. They’ve got some great autographed albums, posters, guitars, etc., and I got an authentic Memphis Press-Scimitar Special Edition from the day Elvis died. Pretty cool. Also got a mint-condition Life mag with Sinatra on cover and another with Sophia Loren on cover.
Not to mention there was an awfully cute sort of alt-rock girl working behind the counter playing her Ipod over the store stereo, and she knew (and sung along) all the lyrics to The Jam’s “That’s Entertainment.” So that was a bonus.
Youkilis – signed a multi-year well under markets to stay in Boston (he would be near $18-20$ pa in NY)……. no way in hell Bosox trade him
November 14th, 20098:05 pm
Duke, if you’d been watching the Jayhawks in recent weeks, you’d never have bet on them today. They’ve absolutely stunk it up for more than a month.
Thankfully, basketball season has begun.
November 14th, 20098:12 pm
Cloud nine can you give me a link?
November 14th, 20098:14 pm
Where is this music store (in relation to the rest of the village)? I live in East Atlanta and have never noticed it before.
November 14th, 20098:40 pm
Is Georgia Tech rolling, or what?…
RC, it’s across the street from The Earl. Just look for the “going out of business” banner outside. There’s a smaller record store a couple storefronts down (not Revolutionary Records, which is about a block down street)
We’re headed to The Earl to see Langhorne Slim tonight.
November 14th, 20099:13 pm
DOB, heard anything by Them Crooked Vultures, the Homme, Grohl, JPJ project. Good listen but sounds a lot like Queens of the Stone Age. Not that thats a bad thing.
November 14th, 20099:27 pm
I think Posh Spice is the only one in America who cares about that guy
It’s easy to say that when you’re not staring at one of the ads he’s in…well no, still not even then.
November 14th, 20099:31 pm
Let’s trade Derek Lowe for Ryan Braun or Matt Kemp, keep javy, jj, huddy, hanson and kk.
Let’s resign LaRoche and closer Gonzalez.
Let him go: R.Soriano, G.Anderson, G. Norton, R.Church
November 14th, 20099:32 pm
The real questions in the off-season are who is going to replace Boog and will Chip be non-tendered?
I agree. These are important things to consider.
Don’t worry CAB…USC will probably only drop a spot or two in the polls. And you’ll still somehow be ahead of Oregon.
November 14th, 20099:57 pm
We didn’t deserve to win that game…however, Stanford attempting a 2-point conversion when they were up 48-21 late in the 4th was totally uncalled for. Completely classless (I am still [expletive deleted] about that )
November 14th, 20099:59 pm
oh…I didn’t see the game, just came home and saw the score.
November 14th, 200910:07 pm
Is there any reason why Jo Jo Reyes is not pitching in Winter Ball. His career in Atlanta appears to have run his course. I like the kid, but he needs to start producing.
November 14th, 200910:08 pm
I think Brandon deserves a legit shot in Spring Training
November 14th, 200910:13 pm
jeffrey d – then you probably missed the fact that William and Mary won to move to 9-1 (over New Hampshire, which is now 8-2). I was sitting at the USC game following my game for the first quarter and a half…
November 14th, 200910:17 pm
No, that’s why I missed it. I was at the W&M game.
November 14th, 200910:18 pm
That’s a lie…I don’t even know where W&M is. Virginia?
November 14th, 200910:20 pm
Williamsburg, VA – that’s it
November 14th, 200910:24 pm
I think Willingham for Lowe is a reasonable possibility. The Nats need a veteran innings-eater pitcher to take the pressure off of Lannan, Detwiler and Strasburg (who I don’t think will be called up until June, a la Hanson). I could see Stan Kasten signing DeRosa to play outfield and trading Willingham, who IS bad in left, no doubt about it–though a gold glover in comparison to Dunn–for a veteran pitcher. The Nats owners are cheap, but have a ton of money coming off the books as the bad contracts of Austin Kearns and Dmitri Young, among others, have expired. They could afford to take on most of Lowe’s salary…
November 14th, 200910:26 pm
think Brandon deserves a legit shot in Spring Training
November 14th, 200910:27 pm
I hope that UGA player is okay. At least he put his arms up to signal he’s okay.
November 14th, 200910:30 pm
Just a sidebar…but
Had a lot of family at the W&M game today…brother and cousin and their families (as graduates, they don’t miss a game). Other family members who also graduated from W&M live out of state so they unfortunately couldn’t make the game.
I didn’t graduate from W&M (graduated from a college of lower education)…but you can bet my family keeps me informed about W&M.
Back to more important things…I’m not too keen on the Willingham idea for the Braves. How about you?
November 14th, 200910:31 pm
VJ: congrats on W & M.
cab: my apologies.
Look at that. Bowl eligibility for the Dawgs.
November 14th, 200910:32 pm
think Willingham for Lowe is a reasonable possibility
his clutch stats are fairly crappy and he really fell off the table last month or so. Maybe we can’t do any better,and maybe it’s worth it if they take all the salary, but a lot of folks on here act like Lowe is worthless and he isn’t by any means
November 14th, 200910:35 pm
Doesn’t Willingham play for the Nationals? Did Rizzo just win the lottery? How are they going to afford Lowe? And why would a constantly rebuilding team want an aging expensive pitcher?
November 14th, 200910:47 pm
This isn’t the Braves of old, which was often 1 player away from going to the World Series. This yrs team has too many question marks and holes to fill to be spending big on a FA. We need to trade for what we need or draft and develop it. We have the overall pitching to get it done, except for a closer, we just need to solidify our starting 8 and our bench.
We should trade for San Diego’s first baseman Gonzalez, which would settle the 1st base and the R handed power hitter situation. It would also allow us to persue an Otis Nixon type outfielder that can give us the leadoff hitter we’ve lacked since RFucal left. A quality closer, a power hitting cleanup hitter at 1B and a leadoff hitting OF could give us a team that could start another title streak.
November 14th, 200910:49 pm
his clutch stats are fairly crappy and he really fell off the table last month or so. Maybe we can’t do any better,and maybe it’s worth it if they take all the salary, but a lot of folks on here act like Lowe is worthless and he isn’t by any means (nolie)
I agree that Lowe isn’t worthless, but I think you undervalue Willingham a bit. He’s a pretty cheap player and he’s a career .264/.362/.478 hitter, 30 years old and under team control for 2 more years. I think he’s more valuable than Adam Dunn on the trade market (and he’s certainly a better fit for the Braves) yet the Nationals probably value Dunn more.
November 14th, 200910:58 pm
Does anyone know about the series that starts tomorrow night on AMC named “The Prisoner”?
November 14th, 200910:59 pm
but I think you undervalue Willingham a bit. (PW)
perhaps I do..170 2-out RISP, .233 late/close does that to me. he hit good in tie games, but the rest in below par AFAIC and he is not a good OFer.
.I do not think he is worth Lowe except as a salary ‘dump’, and hope to see them do better.
He certainly isn’t the worst one who has been mentioned on here though.
jeffrey d – once again, playing the logic card – like we should care if the other team is interested in making the move that works for us…
November 14th, 200911:02 pm
rehash of the old show, a huge cult hit but I am not a real big fan of it.
. The reviews I’ve read have been decent but not all great.
If you watch it let me know what you think. I might download it if it is any good
November 14th, 200911:03 pm
I do not think he is worth Lowe except as a salary ‘dump’, and hope to see them do better. (nolie)
You might get a better player for Lowe (at a salary comparable to Lowe’s), but you probably won’t be able to get a better contract for Lowe.
All this is academic anyway because I don’t know if the Nationals will move Willingham or if they’d want Lowe or if they’d move the former for the latter.
Someone said it very well earlier this year (during ST maybe?) – Other GMs don’t wake up saying “Hmm, how can I make the Braves a better team today?”
As opposed to the Ted Turner, I finally get it Braves, we are now presented with the Band Aid Braves.Let two decent closers go and sign another over,way the Hell over the hill closer.Trade for Dookie an overpaid starting pitcher.Keep ‘Hoss at third,listen to BC about the unlimited merits of Kelly Johnson,resign nonchalant Laroe,my heart goes pitty patter.Come on DB, quit this Homer Ass reporting, spare me the lyrics,tell it like it is.Braves have no,repeat no intention of A. Competing.B.No intention,repeat no intention of fielding a playoff type team.C.They fear the Chipper more than the Smoltze.D.They are not infected with the Farve Syndrome.When it’s time for a change,by god, it’s time for a change!Not next year or the year after,NOW!
November 14th, 200911:04 pm
like we should care if the other team is interested in making the move that works for us (VJ)
ain’t that what they’re around for?
Look at that. Bowl eligibility for the Dawgs
I can’t begin to express how sad it is to see so many of these type comments.
November 14th, 200911:08 pm
nolie (November 14th, 2009 10:32 pm): “a lot of folks on here act like Lowe is worthless and he isn’t by any means”
Say it again.
I’d be happy — I would prefer — to keep Lowe and trade Vazquez, if the Braves cannot extend Vazquez.
November 14th, 200911:09 pm
Hey Bat! I know…it’s like settling. What can you do though?
Falcons tomorrow. What do you think?
November 14th, 200911:11 pm
I can’t begin to express how sad it is to see so many of these type comments.
Oh Bat…while we haven’t had a good season by any means, it’s nothing to sneeze at TOO much. Yes it stinks to lose to so many rivals in the same year. And good gravy, can we get a new D-coordinator?
Silver Lining – 3 of our 4 losses were to teams in the top ten (…at the time). Best case scenario, we can still go 9-4.
November 14th, 200911:12 pm
Although if we lose to Tech again, I’ll either be dead or crazy…and in no condition to worry about bowl games anyway.
Who does UGA play next week?
McFann’s & her dad should be super happy with Tech clinching the ACC Coastal.
November 14th, 200911:14 pm
Here’s why I stay away from college football discussions
bigfort—-hOW ABOUT TECH BEING THE WINNIEST TEAM BY PERCENTAGE IN college bowl history—-moron—–WE HAVE ALSO BEEN TO MORE DIFFERENT BOWLS THAN YOU HUMPLEGGERS
Thanks Nolie. I have it set to record Monday afternoon. It is supposed to be 11 episodes with the first one two hours. I’ll let you know Tues or Wed. whether it is any good.
November 14th, 200911:15 pm
It’s always “my team is the greatest ever and yours is terrible!” Although it’s said in many more words, and is often spelled wrong.
Soph, I’m not sure what to think. Turner has been great the past couple of weeks. Ryan has fallen love with the middle of the field, its like he has forgotten he has some pretty good guys on the edge. What is your take?
November 14th, 200911:16 pm
lol you humplegger! Winniest. That’s a new one too.
Soph – Kentucky next week and Tech in 2 weeks. Then whoever else is in the Sugar Bowl, errr…..Hefty Bag Bowl
November 14th, 200911:17 pm
I would think that should be leghumpers, but from a Tech fan who can be sure
November 14th, 200911:18 pm
What baffles me is his capitalization. It seems like he put the normal part in all caps and the part he wanted to emphasize in lower case.
…but wouldn’t you notice that? How can you look at that and think “I’ve made a good point” Submit
November 14th, 200911:19 pm
Bat – unfortunately, Ryan’s got a case of the sophomore slump. Too many picks thrown. You’re right though – Turner’s been fantastic. Hope it lasts throughout the season because the Falcons will need it with Ryan’s troubles right now.
I’m 50/50 about tomorrow. I know Carolina’s not what they were last season but they still played well vs. the Saints last week.
keylargo (November 14th, 2009 10:58 pm): “Does anyone know about the series that starts tomorrow night on AMC named “The Prisoner”?”
A re-make of the 60s series that starred Secret Agent Man Patrick McGoohan.
I used to think it was great, but haven’t seen it in 30 years or so — it probably would not hold up well against today’s spy-show competition (eg, Alias, Bourne, etc) — too cerebral.
November 14th, 200911:20 pm
but wouldn’t you notice that? How can you look at that and think “I’ve made a good point” Submit
Bah, only wimps proofreed.
November 14th, 200911:22 pm
jeffrey d, I like your optimism, but it’s not just this year. Underachieving last year, losing to Florida year after year. Hell I’ve had to disown my Gator friends. A new defensive coordinator is in order.
November 14th, 200911:24 pm
Random, your Coach posts are fun to read over. But they were from May. I was thinking along the lines of anybody in August or September’s thought process (after having watched Vazquez for 4 months), since you had mentioned the “one month” time frame of when somebody came up with the thought of trading Lowe and Keeping Vazquez.
Also, I agree with you if Church is gone and LaRoche not re-signed. Then of course somthing more major will need to be done. Hard to say at this point.
And no…. I wasn’t cranky. Just being funny. Today was my grandmother’s 90th B-day (the mother of my mother – who passed away last year), so today was a good day with a lot of family in town and many strolls down memory lane.
So, joke all you want. But I was about as far from cranky, crabby, pissy (whatever you want to refer to it as), as one can get today.
Ooh, what about the San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia bowl? Or, the Autozone Liberty bowl?
Hell I’ve had to disown my Gator friends
We’ve won like, three times since the Eisenhower administration. How did THIS loss put you over the edge?
November 14th, 200911:25 pm
Because those are real bowls. Mine was fake.
November 14th, 200911:26 pm
but wouldn’t you notice that? How can you look at that and think “I’ve made a good point” Submit
November 14th, 200911:27 pm
I figured it was fake but you know how they like to make up new bowls every year. I figured the trash bag people got in on it too.
Free lifetime supply of Hefty trash bags for all the players and coaching staff!
November 14th, 200911:28 pm
Better than a lifetime supply of Sugar.
November 14th, 200911:29 pm
Hey now, can’t spell sugar without UGA.
November 14th, 200911:30 pm
Oh, we were saying that just 2 years ago.
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