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DAP

November 4th, 2009
12:10 pm

ricoSo what if he accepts, then wins? It’s an option you have in spring training, and if a cheaper alternative emerges, then trade him.

what if you cant trade him? then your on the hook paying more than you can afford, which limits you in improving your team in other areas. soriano’s pay in arbitration is probably higher than he will get as a free agent, too, so he would be likely to accept it.

Atlanta Braves sign reliever Scott Proctor

November 4th, 2009
12:11 pm

[...] Good first move of the off-season, Frank Wren. Now we’re just waiting on the official word about Tim Hudson. [...]

GovClintonTyree

November 4th, 2009
12:12 pm

I don’t understand this Wagner talk. Why don’t we just re-sign Gonzalez? He likes it here. His BAA was .219. His K/9 was 10.9. Geez, give Gonzalez two years at $6 and $8m.

Bobby's Belly

November 4th, 2009
12:12 pm

Efrim – I agree. Everyone firing on / second guessing Girardi w/o explaining that Gaudin was the alternative. Funny how a day earlier Philly media and Yahoo’s Passan ridiculed Manuel for not starting C. Lee in game 4. Not a Blanton fan at all, but I understand that decision much more than a Gaudin start – in any game. Anyone find it amusing how most discount Pettitte tonight vs. Pedro. I’m not expecting either to go past the 5th. Think were going to have a high scoring game tonight.

TnBrian

November 4th, 2009
12:12 pm

Even Chipper knows how important having a strikeout pitcher like Javy is to lead your rotation. He knows what he’s talking about, especially if Atlanta gets in the postseason– having that K pitcher comes in real handy. Hanson might K 200 in 2010, but you know with Javy you’re definitely getting that.

Sorry, I’m just getting a little worried they might deal him, & I fear it will bite them hard in the ass.

18 Wheels of Love

November 4th, 2009
12:13 pm

Braves sign Scott Proctor

GovClintonTyree

November 4th, 2009
12:14 pm

Wow, if that’s evidence of the Bankees’ pitching depth, maybe THEY need Lowe.

Tomas

November 4th, 2009
12:14 pm

How about Nick Swisher, and Phil Hughes for Javier Vazquez.

Lew

November 4th, 2009
12:15 pm

18 Wheels-Yes, he IS two years removed from a 120 RBI season-a season that was definitely a career year and one in which he put up at least 20 more RBI than ever before-even in Boston. In fact, in 07 he put up career highs in Batting Average, OBP, Slg%, OPS, RBI and HR.

However, he then had two years where he hit nowhere near those levels (as he never had before-even in his prime) where he missed 49 games and 43 games. Couple those horrible Games Played numbers with the fact he makes $12 mil and I just can’t see how he would be a decent option-even if we did jettison Lowe’s salary.

The potential for more injuries, the miniscule likelihood Lowe will ever put up 07 numbers ever again and the fact we will save no $$$$$ whatsoever, makes me wonder why it would even be considered. We certainly do NOT need a declining skilled player (not a natural 1B anyway) with a history of numerous injuries just to ditch a pitcher who won 15 games and threw damned near 200 innings. Are we seriously that hard up to get rid of Lowe?

O.J.

November 4th, 2009
12:15 pm

Tomas, I think we do, I mean, I know Lowe is owed a lot of money over the next 3 years, but dont through in a prospect to sweeten the deal for just Nick Swisher. Go for someone worth having I say.

P. W. Hjort

November 4th, 2009
12:16 pm

When did Proctor have Tommy John? Exact date.

TnBrian

November 4th, 2009
12:17 pm

Jeez, I figured Proctor was older than 32. Seems that guy’s been around forever. Hey, he can’t be any worse than freakin Acosta.

Lew

November 4th, 2009
12:17 pm

tomas-Vazquez already pitched for the Yankees and was not all that effective. Not to mention that a fly ball/strikeout pitcher in that bandbox equals a terrible potential season for Javy and that’s yet another deal I can’t see happening. Keep proposing those unrealistic trades, though. You may come up with a worthwhile one yet.

Lew

November 4th, 2009
12:19 pm

And what that you’ve seen from Hughes makes you think he would help us more than Lowe would? All that potential we keep hearing about but haven’t really seen yet? Do you really want a young pitcher that’s been managed by Joe Girardi?

[...] Good first move of the off-season, Frank Wren. Now we’re just waiting on the official word about Tim Hudson. [...]

P. W. Hjort

November 4th, 2009
12:20 pm

OK, Proctor had TJ surgery on May 12, 2009. So, we can probably expect him to be ready in mid-May or early-June of 2010.

Jeff R

November 4th, 2009
12:21 pm

Proctor tends to give up homers. He’s a low risk pick up, though. Might pan out.

Hillbilly

November 4th, 2009
12:23 pm

When did Proctor have Tommy John? Exact date. PWHjort

May 12, 2009

James

November 4th, 2009
12:23 pm

How about the Braves trade Vazquez for a power hitter, as long as it makes sense and we come out on top, none of those everyones a winner deals. Then, next offseason, resign Vazquez. lowe would be more moveable and prolly have a better season under his belt, or KK, which wouldnt look as bad to potential Japanese players because 2/3 of his contract would be over with. Javy wants to be here, would come back and I believe take a lil less. Getting Fielder in return I think would be a mistake. Hes too close to free agency for this to be a good deal for the bravos.

O.J.

November 4th, 2009
12:23 pm

Through, I meant throw, lol

pryguy

November 4th, 2009
12:23 pm

Am I in the minority of the Braves extending Javy Vazquez? This dude is comfortable here and has shown his ability through an entire season. I just feel the value he brings to this team, rotation, and Jurrjens outweighs anything we can get on a return for him.

balla1881

November 4th, 2009
12:24 pm

what do you guys think about Rick Ankiel?
I like him alot as a possible right fielder for next year. superb defense and decent power. a definite upgrade to the ? we have out there right now

TnBrian

November 4th, 2009
12:25 pm

pryguy, check me as a fan who’d like to see Javy extended long term. He’s never injured, throws 200 plus innings a year, K’s 200 plus… what’s not to like?

David O'Brien

November 4th, 2009
12:25 pm

Coincidentally, Proctor was part of a Wilson Betemit trade a few years back.

Proctor of old would be a great closer candidate for Braves. If he comes back strong from Tommy John surgery he had in May 2009, he could be again. But you can’t count on that for early season, I’d think.

P. W. Hjort

November 4th, 2009
12:26 pm

Jeez, I figured Proctor was older than 32. Seems that guy’s been around forever.

LOL, that’s exactly what I said to myself when I looked at his BR page.

Random

November 4th, 2009
12:26 pm

dpelfrey (November 4th, 2009 10:52 am): “you missed my point”

No, I didn’t — I got it. I just thought it was silly and unsupported. Capiche?

“and also excluded the fact I listed Medlen as a first option”

Only so I could make my own point. I do not dispute Medlen’s value. Capiche?

“and also a midseason free agent/trade pickup as another option.”

I addressed that ridiculous notion in a subsequent post. Capiche? (What did you think of the Braves 4th and 5th SPs in 2007 and 2008?)

“I don’t like those guys either, but they are options and can eat up some innings in an emergency situation. And I stress “emergency situation.” “

But is that a valid reason to set about creating that emergency (or allowing circumstances that will ensure that an emergency does occur)? Not all firemen are arsonists; in fact, that’s actually discouraged in real life. Capiche?

“With all the days off, a 5th starter is really only needed 10-15 times a season.”

No. Flat out no. The most starts from any NL SP in 2009 was 34 — only 6 SPs made that many starts. Even if they had all pitched for the same team, that leaves 26 starts for a 5th SP. MINIMUM. And more likely 30-40.

The Braves were the only NL team with 2 SPs who started 34 games — Lowe and Jurrjens. (Vazquez and Hudson/Kawakami had 32 starts “each”.) And the Braves needed a 5th SP 30 times (that’s counting Kawakami’s and Hudson’s combined starts as the 4th SP’s). The Giants needed a 5th SP 35 times. Cardinals — 46.

Capiche?

“To get to the postseason (which is the goal, right?) a team does not need 5 good/great starters. They just need 4 of those (which is exactly what they will have if they trade 2 of the current guys) and someone to eat innings whenever a 5th guy is needed.”

I copy the foregoing here with no comment of my own in the hopes that some savvier denizens than I (DAP, nolie?) with more time on their hands (Lew, Gus?) will gently set you straight. Capiche?

“Having 5 good/great starters would be a nice commodity, but will backfire if the money invested in those 5 guys doesn’t allow Wren to improve the offense or the bullpen. Capiche?”

Ditto previous remark. Capiche? (Imo, Braves should try to extend Vazquez, trade Lowe and keep all the rest*. If Vazquez won’t extend, trade him and keep Lowe. And all the rest*.)

*(Except Carlyle and Campillo. Capiche?)

8-)

DAP

November 4th, 2009
12:26 pm

clintontyree, resigning gonzalez wouldnt be bad, but i wouldnt give him that…2 years $12mil id consider it.

Tomas

November 4th, 2009
12:29 pm

GovClintonTyree, Gonzo and Soriano are both good relievers, but neither are good for a closer role. Both get injured a lot also. Gonzo was fantastic, in a setup role, but he was awful as the closer. He is just too wild, and inconsistant to be a closer. Soriano was very good in the first half, but in the second half he blew a lot of important games. He had a 4.91ERA in the second half.

But compared to previous years, this was by far the best year the Braves have had in the bulpen for quite some time.

pryguy

November 4th, 2009
12:32 pm

Proctor the dude who made those glasses fashionable?

Hillbilly

November 4th, 2009
12:34 pm

Would rather have Emily Procter but whatever.

Travis

November 4th, 2009
12:35 pm

Preacher…You just echoed the sentiments of many of the partime bloggers that just hang on the fringes and read instead of posting opinions. I have also wondered how PWH can be so correct on so many fronts. Just pure genius I guess. Thank you.

DAP

November 4th, 2009
12:35 pm

ballawhat do you guys think about Rick Ankiel?

hes fine as a defensive replacement making under a $1mil.

ncscoots

November 4th, 2009
12:35 pm

Hey, Proctor was a big blog fave for some here, when he was appearing in about a gazillion games for two years in a row. It’s no wonder his arm mutinied, LOL. His elbow is probably still trying to put out a contract on Joe Torre.

P. W. Hjort

November 4th, 2009
12:37 pm

Random

Except Carlyle and Campillo. Capiche?)

I missed the context of this discussion, but Carlyle and Campillo are no longer in the organization.

TnBrian

November 4th, 2009
12:42 pm

Rick Ankiel, you kiddin, right? There are worse, but come on.

Algebra test coming… wish me luck!

balla1881

November 4th, 2009
12:51 pm

The guy is cheap and hit 25 homers in his first season as a hitter. He’s not the answer but would not be a bad pickup at all. Course we already have Church. Just seeing the response.

NCmike

November 4th, 2009
12:53 pm

Posted earlier, but no response… What would you guys think of taking a chance on Chad Cordero? Could come cheap and has closing experience and isn’t over-the-hill like other FAs…

rammerjammer

November 4th, 2009
12:53 pm

Hey, if Proctor liked how often Torre used him, he’ll positively LOVE playing for Bobby!

Jake W.

November 4th, 2009
12:56 pm

GovClintonTyree, Gonzo and Soriano are both good relievers, but neither are good for a closer role. Both get injured a lot also. Gonzo was fantastic, in a setup role, but he was awful as the closer. He is just too wild, and inconsistant to be a closer. Soriano was very good in the first half, but in the second half he blew a lot of important games. He had a 4.91ERA in the second half. Tomas

Maybe a little overuse had something to do with their inconsitency. I can’t remember what Gonzo’s numbers were when he was used 3 or 4 days in a row. I think they should at least try to bring back Gonzo, maybe for a deal similar to the one they gave Soriano for the two years. I think the most important thing for any of our relievers is that we get a pen where Bobby uses more than just 4 or 5 people. It was always Moylan, EOF, Gonzo, Soriano, and sometimes Medlen. We need to utilize the whole pen that way it will take some of the stress off the main guys.

P. W. Hjort

November 4th, 2009
12:58 pm

NCmike (November 4, 2009 12:53 PM)What would you guys think of taking a chance on Chad Cordero? Could come cheap and has closing experience and isn’t over-the-hill like other FAs

Provided he’s healthy? Absolutely love it. I hope it happens, actually (again, provided he’s healthy).

Glynn

November 4th, 2009
12:58 pm

We need to resign LaRoche

Is there any indication withing the front office that Medlen may get consideration to step into a starting role? If so, then could Lowe and Kawakami be tradeable?

Jeff R

November 4th, 2009
12:59 pm

pryguy… You’re not the only one who thinks Wren should keep Vazquez and offer him an extended deal. I guess Lowe isn’t attracting a lot of initial interest in Wren’s call-arounds. And if the goal is to acquire a righty power bat, and offering Lowe isn’t doing it, then Wren may have to go to Plan B and offer Vazquez.

But for Vazquez, the Bravos would have to obtain a younger righty power bat (not a rental) and, I would hope, a solid prospect.

DAP

November 4th, 2009
12:59 pm

since random was confused enough to mention me as savvy, i will respond to this:

“To get to the postseason (which is the goal, right?) a team does not need 5 good/great starters. They just need 4

i think to get to the postseason, a baseball team needs 25 players. 4 good starters are probably enough if you have a good bullpen and offense. 6 wasnt enough for the braves last year because the offense dug themselves into a hole the first half of the season. but 5 good starters is always better than 4, no matter what the composition of the rest of your team is.

the braves wont have a phillies style offense in 2010, no matter who they get. so, its probably best to go with 5 good starters and not risk it with 4.

Glynn

November 4th, 2009
1:00 pm

Oh, and this may seem out of the blue, but with KJ liely being gone and Chipper needing to be given rest from time to time Id say we could use a nother valuable utility man.

Might I siggest we go after, Casey McGehee of the Brewers? No one knows about this guy, but he had a great year last year

Jim

November 4th, 2009
1:02 pm

I wish I could get paid to go out to Arizona for a few days and watch baseball.

http://www.fanhuddle.com/atlantabraves

P. W. Hjort

November 4th, 2009
1:14 pm

Is there any indication withing the front office that Medlen may get consideration to step into a starting role? If so, then could Lowe and Kawakami be tradeable?

What’s the weather like outside? I like potato salad!

Random

November 4th, 2009
1:19 pm

Travis (November 4th, 2009 12:35 pm): “Preacher…You just echoed the sentiments of many of the partime bloggers that just hang on the fringes and read instead of posting opinions. I have also wondered how PWH can be so correct on so many fronts. Just pure genius I guess. Thank you.”

Well, instead of just flapping your gums and mitching ‘n’ boning about it, you’re each most kindly invited to prove him wrong.

It may not be a fair fight, but we’re willing to make allowances.

David O'Brien

November 4th, 2009
1:21 pm

Yes, Proctor paid the price for totaling nearly 190 innings in 166 relief appearances during the 2006-2007 seasons. Two elbow surgeries since then, one for flexor tendon in October 2008 and TJ surgery in May.

McFann Ô

November 4th, 2009
1:21 pm

18 Wheels Braves sign Scott Proctor

Why?

McFann Ô

November 4th, 2009
1:23 pm

Good luck, TnBrian!

Tomas

November 4th, 2009
1:24 pm

Lew, Vazquez was awesome this year. He had a 2.87ERA and 238 SO’s second only to Lincecum. I know Yankee stadium is a bang box, but Vazquez would be a very good 4th starter wouldn’t you say.

Burnett is a fly ball pitcher. Sabathia is a fly ball pitcher. Pettite is a fly ball pitcher. Chamberlain is a fly ball pitcher.

I know it’s the AL East, and Yankee stadium is a bang box, but Vazquez had a better season than each of their pitchers. Of course you you’d have to make Javy’s ERA a whole run higher to compare him in a different league and in a hitters park. He’d still have an ERA under 4.

And Hughes is a very good reliever. 95mph fastball with good control, and an excellent curveball. Finished the season with an ERA of 3.03 in the AL East. He is just horrible isn’t he.

Random

November 4th, 2009
1:24 pm

P. W. Hjort (November 4th, 2009 12:37 pm): “I missed the context of this discussion,”

You got that right! Try to keep up, why dontcha? ;-)

“but Carlyle and Campillo are no longer in the organization.”

The reference to Carlyle and Campillo was either good-natured, tongue-in-cheek joshing, ( ;-) )or savage, biting sarcasm ( :evil: ).

Who can tell any more these days?

8-)

Efrim

November 4th, 2009
1:28 pm

Proctor paid the price for totaling nearly 190 innings in 166 relief appearances during the 2006-2007 seasons. Two elbow surgeries since then, one for flexor tendon in October 2008 and TJ surgery in May.

Torre knows how to work a bullpen, that’s for sure……

Rob from SC

November 4th, 2009
1:29 pm

DOB

Is Proctor on the 40 man now? No right

N8

November 4th, 2009
1:29 pm

Preacher Roe, or perhaps he just spent 20-30 minutes of his life searching out Braves prospects, their stats and scouting reports online. About the same amount of time you spent ranting on him having no life.

I’ve got 3 kids, a wife, a dog, for two years played in two bands, and run a photo studio. Do I need to get a life too?

I don’t sit on my ass drinking beer, I don’t fish. I don’t hunt. I don’t play beer league softball. I don’t go camping.

I do however, coach one of each of my kids’ sports, watch as much baseball as I can (sometimes on the DVR), and listen to what I can’t watch. In the other free hours of the day, I spend a lot of time here on the MIB/Braves blog.

Again. Do I need to get a life? Don’t ridicule how others choose to spend their time, just because it’s not how you don’t spend yours.

Now, that being said, there isn’t any reason for any Braves fan to mock another because they don’t know the ins and outs of EVERY Braves prospect or draft pick.

But just as few reasons for those who don’t to mock those that do, for needing to get a life.

I couldn’t tell anybody the first thing about what lures or bait to use fishing. Should I mock somebody who can because they obviously have too much time on their hands to have ever gathered such information by repitition of going fishing?

Didn’t think so.

To each his own, my friend. Try and remember that.

Jake W.

November 4th, 2009
1:31 pm

Tomas

Seriously though, the Yanks aren’t taking Vazquez back. 1 year was enough for them. He struggled badly their. The guy a had a good season here in Atlanta. That doesn’t mean every team will think he will have the same kind of performance for them, especially a team like the Yanks who had such a bad year with him. If the Yanks are getting anyone from us it would probably be Lowe over Vazquez and even that is a longshot.

DAP

November 4th, 2009
1:35 pm

I know Yankee stadium is a bang box

this is probably just a typo, but please put “bang box” on your list, wayne.

Jay212033

November 4th, 2009
1:37 pm

If 95% of Braves fans don’t know who Julio Teheran is then that’s truly sad. Even if you casually follow the Braves u should have at least heard of Teheran heck most fans of other teams know about him.

Ray Pugh

November 4th, 2009
1:37 pm

1) Vazquez to the Cubs for Derek Lee – let Laroche walk and sign Mike (not Matt) Cameron.

2) Vazquez + $$ to Nationals for Josh Willingham – resign Laroche

3) Vazquez + cash to Milwaukee for Mat Gamel + prospect – flip Gamel to Flo-rida for Dan Uggla – resign Laroche or move Prado to 1st depending on budget.

David O'Brien

November 4th, 2009
1:39 pm

By the way, Proctor has converted only 1 of 15 career save opps. Granted, those usually are not great save-opp situations for a setup man. But….

Daslied

November 4th, 2009
1:41 pm

Where does this “Gonzalez has injury problems” stuff come from? I can find, since his debut in 2004, the tendinitis in 2006 and TJ surgery in 2007. That doesn’t seem too alarming, or out of the norm for pitchers, so am I missing something?

I can understand the question about Soriano, based on 2008.

rammerjammer

November 4th, 2009
1:48 pm

Proctor is Moylan, which makes little sense unless Moylan is Soriano.

P. W. Hjort

November 4th, 2009
1:50 pm

Daslied -

Mike Gonzalez Injury History:

Sep 23, 2009: Missed 6 games (back injury).
Sep 17, 2009: Back injury, day-to-day.
Jul 19, 2009: Missed 3 games (left elbow injury).
Jul 16, 2009: Left elbow injury, day-to-day.
Jun 18, 2008: Missed 72 games (elbow surgery).
Mar 22, 2008: Elbow surgery, 15-day DL.
Oct 1, 2007: Missed the last 123 games of the regular season (arm injury).
May 16, 2007: Arm injury, 15-day DL.
Apr 23, 2007: Missed 4 games (left elbow injury).
Apr 19, 2007: Left elbow injury, day-to-day.
Oct 2, 2006: Missed the last 34 games of the regular season (left elbow tendinitis).
Aug 28, 2006: Left elbow tendinitis, 15-day DL (retroactive to August 25th).
Aug 27, 2006: Arm injury, day-to-day.
Jul 19, 2006: Missed 2 games (left groin).
Jul 17, 2006: Left groin, day-to-day.
Aug 16, 2005: Missed 48 games (sprained left knee).
Jun 23, 2005: Sprained left knee, 15-day DL.
Apr 30, 2005: Missed 5 games (right knee injury).
Apr 22, 2005: Right knee injury, day-to-day.

raleighbravefan

November 4th, 2009
1:52 pm

N8 – very well said! Besides, I thought the reason for the blog was to share ideas/information.

Nick C

November 4th, 2009
1:59 pm

I know D-Lowe is making $15MM next season, but why not move him back to being a closer. That would give us our 5 man rotation, Lowe as a closer (at least temporarily) until someone else steps up, and it allows the Braves to keep their insurance “6th” man in case something were to happen to one of the others. I know $15MM is a lot for a closer, and I know it won’t end up this way, but it’s at least a start. Vasquez is too good to trade. Re-sign laroche, trade k johnson, logan, and a minor leaguer for a quality outfielder and go from there. Makes sense, hopefully frankie is thinking the same thing.

Probably

November 4th, 2009
2:03 pm

Why do so many posters use “prolly” when they actually mean probably? It’s not just one person, I see that same error all the time. It drives me crazy – almost as much as seeing the word “dominate” used instead of “dominant”.

Jay212033

November 4th, 2009
2:05 pm

If these situations could happen this would really put us over the top.

Derek Lowe to the Angels for Jose Arredondo and Freddy Sandoval.

Kelly Johnson and Manny Acosta to the DBacks for Coner Jackson.

Jo-Jo Reyes and Ryan Church to the Pirates for Matt Capps.

Sign Matt Holliday – 5 yr/90 mil contract.

Sign Billy Wagner – 2 yr/ 14 mil contract.(Only if Gonzalez/Soriano don’t sign with another team before Dec. 1st or don’t accept arb. that the Braves should offer on Dec.1st, see below)

Extend Tim Hudson – 3 yr/27 mil contract, Javier Vazquez – 4 yr/52 mil contract.

Offer Rafael Soriano, Mike Gonzalez and Adam LaRoche arbitration on Dec. 1st if they have not already signed with another team. (Note: Dec. 1st is the deadline for teams to offer arbitration to players)

Phil in GA

November 4th, 2009
2:07 pm

PROBABLY:
I think we all know what kind of responses will prolly be dominate after your post.

O.J.

November 4th, 2009
2:07 pm

Nick C, that has already been talked about at length here and DOB has given reasons as to why its a bad idea.

CJ

November 4th, 2009
2:08 pm

trade k johnson, logan, and a minor leaguer for a quality outfielder

Unless the minor leaguer is Freddie Freeman that combo would not get a starting outfielder at all, much less a quality one.

David O'Brien

November 4th, 2009
2:08 pm

Here’s story I wrote for website. Braves can’t announce signings until after World Series, per MLB request.

By David O’Brien

The Braves signed veteran reliever Scott Proctor to a one-year contract on Wednesday, according to his agent.

The right-hander missed the entire 2009 season with the Florida Marlins while recovering from ligament-transplant elbow surgery in May, after flexor-tendon surgery on the elbow in October 2008.

The Braves have not confirmed the signing, as teams are urged by Major League Baseball not to make such announcements during the World Series.

Proctor, who’ll be 32 in January, was released by the Marlins last month and signed a split contract with the Braves, meaning he’ll receive less for any portion of the season that he’s pitching in the minors.

Agent Mark Rodgers told the TCPalm newspaper of Florida, near Proctor’s hometown in Martin County, that the Braves had pursued Proctor “aggressively” since he was released by the Marlins.

Pitchers usually require 12-13 months of recovery from the “Tommy John” surgery that he had, which other Braves pitchers including Tim Hudson and Mike Gonzalez have had in recent years.

Among non-closers, Proctor was once regarded as one of baseball’s top relievers as a hard-throwing workhorse the New York Yankees. He paid a price after piling up nearly 190 relief innings in back-to-back 83-appearance seasons with the Yankees and Dodgers in 2007-2008.

He had a 6.05 ERA in 41 appearances for the Dodgers in 2008, and had two elbow surgeries without pitching in a major league game since then. The Marlins hoped he would be recovered from flexor-tendon surgery to pitch last season, but he had repeated setbacks before the decision to have ligament-transplant surgery.

His best season was 2006, when Proctor was 6-4 with a 3.52 ERA and 89 strikeouts in 102-1/3 innings. He held hitters to a .232 average and .292 on-base percentage that season, including .204/.269 by lefties.

He has a 16-10 career record and 4.42 ERA in 262 games, all but one in relief. Proctor has converted only one of his 15 career save opportunities.

David O'Brien

November 4th, 2009
2:10 pm

Rammerjammer? Proctor is Moylan? In the Braves’ best-case scenario, he’s Moylan. He WAS Moylan, before surgeries. But unlike Moylan, Proctor hasn’t come back from elbow surgery yet, and he’s had two since he last pitched.

Andrew in P-tang

November 4th, 2009
2:10 pm

Ray Pugh, i hope javy could bring us more than josh willingham.

FaninFaytown

November 4th, 2009
2:11 pm

I would assume people who say “prolly” are intentionally saying it, whereas people who say dominate instead of dominant, actually are incorrect in their word usage.

Jay212033

November 4th, 2009
2:11 pm

Ray Pugh

I do like the Vazquez to the Brewers for Gamel+ but the prospect needs to be Brett Lawrie or that’s no deal.

rammerjammer

November 4th, 2009
2:11 pm

Probably,

If you’re looking for good grammar, a blog is not the place to find it. Your criticisms likely will inspire even more slang just to spite you! Plus, if the language is perfectly butchered, it becomes blog lore and a source of constant amusement. You wouldn’t begrudge us a little fun, would you?

Probably

November 4th, 2009
2:13 pm

Thanks, FaninFaytown….I was just curious about this odd word usage.

Random

November 4th, 2009
2:18 pm

Preacher Roe (November 4th, 2009 11:59 am): “The blog becomes less enjoyable with every post of PWHjort.”

You’re speaking neither for God nor for me (nor many others). You should keep that in mind.

“PWH mocks a poster who does not know who Julio Teheran is. Is it somehow an unforgivable sin to not know the name of some 18 year old without 100 innings in the minor leagues?”

“WOW” is a pretty mild mock, even for just one word. And bravofan has posted probably over three hundred comments this season. I would think that he or she would be able to take care of themself.

“95% of the Braves fan base has not a clue who Julio Teheran is.”

That may well be. But what percentage of this blog’s readers don’t? He or she has been mentioned fairly regularly.

“It does not make them any less of a fan. It just means they have a life, free of trolling all day on a message board, too busy competing and rising up in the real world to bother pathetically competing to rise up and attain meaningless authoritative status on someone else’s blog.”

No one said it made anyone “any less of a fan” — you’re fighting straw men, putting your own words in others’ mouths. I think you’re projecting.

“It must be nice to be a college kid with nothing to do all day and all night.”

Yeah . . . . . that’d be great, huh?

“No classes to attend, no books to study, no job to work, no bars to hang out in, no friends to hang with, no woman to get down with.”

Yeah, right — college kids don’t drink or have sex. :roll:

“Nothing to do but act like a shut-in plagiarizing stats and scouting reports all day and all night attempting to pass them on as your own original analytical thought.”

“Plagiarizing stats”? I think you’ve lost your thread.

You’ve definitely lost me.

8-)

Nick C

November 4th, 2009
2:19 pm

How about this, at least for the outfield……if Jordan is healthy in the spring, keep him in CF, move McLouth to left (since he isn’t a true CF anyhow), and have Diaz/Church in right. McLouth will provide more power when he is out of the lead-off role, Schafer will steal bases at the top, chipper will return to form. All Frank needs to do is re-sign rochey and gonzo. I also say good riddins to Soriano. He was good for the first 2 months, then got back to his normal crappy self.

[...] David O’Brien reported a similar note this morning [...]

monty

November 4th, 2009
2:23 pm

I hope the Braves pitchers are taking notes on how the Yankees are pitching to Howard. Can’t believe this is the same guy who always single handedly beats us. They have reduced him (so far) to being a non-factor.

Daslied

November 4th, 2009
2:24 pm

PWH – thanks so much. Apparently I did miss a lot. :) Didn’t remember/realize all of the minor things.

Ray Pugh

November 4th, 2009
2:26 pm

Andrew: Josh “Grand Slam” Willingham fits the bill the power RH bat we need, but he also accomplishes another goal: he’s owed only $3 million a year for the next 2 seasons, which would allow us to resign both Laroche and one of Soriana/Gonzalez.

Jay212033

November 4th, 2009
2:32 pm

Willingham for Vazquez is definitely a NO. Now Willingham for Kawakami that works.

DAP

November 4th, 2009
2:33 pm

I also say good riddins to Soriano.

wayne, please add “good riddins” to your list, as well as “bang box”

O.J.

November 4th, 2009
2:35 pm

Willingham is not the answer in Left Field people, he is an injury risk waiting to happen, he has never hit more than 26 homers in a year. Leave him in Washington.

P. W. Hjort

November 4th, 2009
2:36 pm

Ray Pugh (November 4, 2009 2:26 PM) Andrew: Josh “Grand Slam” Willingham fits the bill the power RH bat we need, but he also accomplishes another goal: he’s owed only $3 million a year for the next 2 seasons

That’s incorrect. Willingham made $2.95 million in 2009, but he’s not guaranteed $3 million in 2010 and 2011, he’s year to year, arbitration eligible. If he’s tendered a contract, he’ll most likely receive a raise. I’d guess $4.5-$5 million in 2010.

Randy S

November 4th, 2009
2:40 pm

DOB

Pics from Voodoo Fest. Check out what the Drive by Truckers dressed up as for Halloween.

http://dinoperrucciphotography.blogspot.com/

rammerjammer

November 4th, 2009
2:40 pm

DOB,

I suppose Proctor will be Acosta.

Billy Walsh

November 4th, 2009
2:43 pm

Tomas,

The Yankees had Vazquez back in 2004. He didnt do so well back then. Why would the Yankees trade for him?

O.J.

November 4th, 2009
2:44 pm

didnt mean Injury risk waiting to happen, meant an injury risk type player.

Thundersticks

November 4th, 2009
2:44 pm

Would the Nats trade Willingham & Dunn for Vazquez & a good minor league pitching prospect?

ncscoots

November 4th, 2009
2:44 pm

wayne, please add “good riddins” to your list, as well as “bang box”

Hey, when these foe paws are worthy, they add themselves, LOL. Let’s not sully our outstanding blog lore here with mere quantity. If that puppy has legs, the blog will run with it. Otherwise, 15 minutes of blog lore fame and then nuke that sucker.

Hey, I liked “mute”, LOL, but the blog left that one dead in the road. So be it.

Blog lore is not to be trifled with.

Billy Walsh

November 4th, 2009
2:44 pm

Crazy trades where are you?

David O'Brien

November 4th, 2009
2:45 pm

Hicks flied out in first inning, Freeman’s not in lineup again today (Indians prospect McBride is playing first base)

O.J.

November 4th, 2009
2:45 pm

I think Crazy Trades is Thundersticks!~

dpelfrey

November 4th, 2009
2:47 pm

I like the signing of Proctor. Good low risk, high reward move that won’t eat into payroll or cost any prospects. For the first time in a while, there’s actually some decent bullpen arms in the upper minors (Kimbrel, Gearrin, Hyde among others) so it might not be too bad even if Gonzo and Soriano go elsewhere.

And don’t forget we still have Acosta and can always bring back Jeff Bennett after he’s gets his cast off (just trying to get under Random’s skin with that).

NCmike

November 4th, 2009
2:48 pm

DAP – any way you could use those two phrases in a sentence? Maybe include prolly and dominate as well…

David O'Brien

November 4th, 2009
2:48 pm

Quite a few more fans come out for games here at the Phoenix Municipal Stadium (I think that’s what it’s called; there’s no signage with that on it). It’s Oakland’s spring home, stadium’s been here a while, only a few miles from airport (convenient for me when I bolt from here in about an hour to catch my flight).

Strasburg’s on this Phx Desert Dogs team. Alas, he ain’t pitching today.

O.J.

November 4th, 2009
2:49 pm

I think you got under everyones skin with that, lol

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