2:51 pm November 3, 2009, by David O'Brien
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November 3rd, 20099:33 pm
Carl Crawford would be sweet!! But something is telling me the rays would laugh at that.
you mentioned about the Braves possibly not going after Billy Wagner because of not wanting to give up a number one draft pick, however, they shouldn’t be an issue, because both Soriano and Gonzalez are classified as Type A Free Agents and thus means if the Braves offer Gonzo arbitration, they would be protected by receiving a number one pick from any team signing Gonzalez, this I don’t see the Braves worrying too much about the number one pick being lost on Wagner when they would recoup one. That plus the fact, Wagner has always wanted to play for the Braves leads to me to believe that that marriage is inevitable.
It certainly should be an issue. What happens if a team like say, the Yankees, sign Mike Gonzalez to be their set-up man for Mariano. But they also sign a Type A free agent that is higher on the list than Gonzo. Say a Matt Holliday for example. That means the Braves wouldn’t get a first rounder from the Yanks. They would get their second rounder and a supplemental round selection.When Burnett signed with the Yankees, Toronto only received the Yanks 3rd round selection plus a comp. pick. The Brewers only received a second rounder for the Sabathia signing, because Teixiera was ranked higher.
So anyway you slice it, it’s going to hurt to sign Billy Wagner if the Sox offer him arb. That’d be giving up the 20th pick in the draft for most likely one season of a 38 year old relief pitcher who just came back from TJ surgery and had a small sample size of 17 innings from which to gage if he can handle a full season of closing(not that I think Wagner couldn’t, because he probably could. I want the Braves to sign Wagner if they don’t have to give up a pick). But to say that it’s a wash, well, it isn’t. You just don’t know that and it would be quite risky to play your hand that way. But, the Braves did give up their 18th selection two seasons ago for Tom Glavine. So you really never know. But my guess is they wouldn’t do that again. I hope they wouldn’t.
Steve from OH
November 3rd, 20099:35 pm
Apparently Swisher is keeping a keen eye on your tweets, DOB. A foreshadowing, perhaps?
November 3rd, 20099:40 pm
Derek Lowe for Paulie Konerko. Lowe, a ground ball pitcher is what the Pale Hose need at their launching pad. I have watched Paulie for many years now and when he is hot he can carry a team for 7 to 10 days. He is the RH hitter the Braves need. Excellent fielder at the Initial Sack too.
Closer…..Papelbon could easily be, secretly, available. Vazquez, Freeman and Medlen for Paps?
November 3rd, 20099:42 pm
I dont see the braves offering Soriano arbitration. They could get stuck with him if he accepts it or no one signs him. Im not sure hes worth 6mil+.
Vazquez, Freeman and Medlen for Paps?
Dear Lord no. Even if I like Papelbon, that’s way too much for a reliever. Waaay too much. Hell, Vazquez straight up is too much. Besides, I don’t care to ever see that jackass in a Braves uniform…
November 3rd, 20099:46 pm
Hey rooster thats a steep price for paps. If we need a closer that bad, Medlen has shown he can get people out, why not use him as the closer.
November 3rd, 20099:50 pm
It was only a matter of time
November 3rd, 20099:51 pm
Plus Konerko is getting up there in age. Freeman is our future as of now, what do we do when Konerko is done? If we get rid of Freeman its because we’re getting a young proven first baseman and Paps, as great as he is, that is way too much for a closer; why don’t we just throw in Heyward too.
Lowe for Konerko? Whats konerko’s salary? Whatever it is its probably more than Adam would cost. Plus Konerko is worse than Adam when it come to streaky hitting.
November 3rd, 20099:54 pm
Trade chippie for a hitter and one who plays 145 games.
November 3rd, 20099:55 pm
why not Kimbrel combo with someone else as the closer. there is no need to go out and spend big money on a closer. the risk is too high. If you sign a Wagner/Capps and they bust you are out money that could have been spent on big bat. Using kimbrel you have less money in the pot and could end up working out.
November 3rd, 20099:56 pm
Yes, it is a steep price. Maybe my Braves friends on this blog have stronger hearts than me, but Gonzo makes that vein in my forehead look like a clogged garden hose! I really would like to see a closer that you know is going to slam the door more often than not. Someone that can get you excited and Papelbon came to mind as a guy the fans could buy in to. I’d like Medlen to excel but do you tell him he is #1 and throw him to the wolves?
November 3rd, 20099:57 pm
Yes, it is a steep price
Steep? That’s a heist for Boston and a whole lotta nothing for us…
Heres a cut and paste because im to lazy to do it any other way.
Paul Konerko 1b
5 years/$60M (2006-10)
* 5 years/$60M (2006-10)
o re-signed by White Sox as a free agent 11/05
o 06-10: $12M annually
o limited no-trade clause barring deals to 6 clubs without his permission (may not be traded without his permission after April 30, 2008, under right as 10-and-5 player)
November 3rd, 200910:02 pm
Well, maybe now I have a reason to join that silly thing. One second thought….nah.
November 3rd, 200910:04 pm
cabravesfanYou are aware the Xavier Nady just underwent a second Tommy John surgery and may miss most or all of 2010, right?
you sure? i think he had surgury in april, which means he will probably be ready to play this coming april…hes not a pitcher, so his recovery may be a little shorter.
November 3rd, 200910:05 pm
If we got D Lee for Javy i would have to be happy about that…who’s in left next year if that happend?
could we still get derosa?
November 3rd, 200910:11 pm
Too much gamble to offer Soriano arb, I think. He made over $6 mill this season. He’ll get a raise in arbitration; they all do.
Gonzo’s another story. I think they’ll offer to him, but might not have to — someone could sign him before they even have to make that decision. He’ll have suitors, maybe including Braves, but not sure about that.
P. W. Hjort
November 3rd, 200910:12 pm
DOB breaking down and making a shwitter page. Never thought I’d see the day.
November 3rd, 200910:14 pm
PWH: In my business these days, you do as you’re told my friend. In any business these days, for that matter. I like being able to pay my mortgage, bike payments, etc. I like my job.
OMG NO! are you nuts?
November 3rd, 200910:15 pm
PWH mentioned nady being relegated to 1B…hasnt pujols been playing 1st with a bum elbow for like two years? a second tommy john shouldnt be a career ander for a good hitter who can play 1stbase…and i wouldnt rule out nady being able to play left again either.
Trade chippie for a hitter and one who plays 145 games. (John)
John your and idiot
anyone else see that Vicente Padilla shot himself in the leg today? http://www.canal15.com.ni/noticia/6497 (translation neccesary)
November 3rd, 200910:17 pm
Terrific news: Havana Sandwich Shop is reopening, and it’ll be almost as close to my house as it used to be:
(DOB) how embarrassing 4 U
November 3rd, 200910:22 pm
Twitter isn’t THAT bad. Although I could do without the “mlb on twitter” window on ESPN’s mlb section.
re: Twitter … resistance is futile
November 3rd, 200910:23 pm
HMMM, Vazquez for D-Lee seems to make sense. Though I don’t know if the Cubs are in the market for a SP.
November 3rd, 200910:26 pm
Gonzo’s another story. I think they’ll offer to him, but might not have to — someone could sign him before they even have to make that decision.
DOB, maybe some team will sign Soriano prior to December 1st? It’d be nice. Not that I want them both to leave, but I just have my doubts that the Braves would consider multi year deals for relievers. I’m trying to think if any Type A free agents signed before the deadline to offer arb. I know Affeldt signed quickly, but he was a Type B free agent.
November 3rd, 200910:27 pm
So the AJC forces DOB to make a twitter and he’s not happy about it?
It’s really not that bad, honestly. As long as you don’t follow any people that feel the urge to update their twitter (still refuse to use the word “tweet”) with something that has no context. That’s just annoying.
I find it useful, though.
November 3rd, 200910:30 pm
PWH mentioned nady being relegated to 1B…hasnt pujols been playing 1st with a bum elbow for like two years
I think Pujols has been playing with a bum WRIST, but I could be wrong.
a second tommy john shouldnt be a career ander for a good hitter who can play 1stbase
I just don’t know. I’ll ask Will Carrol.
i wouldnt rule out nady being able to play left again either.
Me either, but not in 2010.
November 3rd, 200910:33 pm
Goldenglove–at least it wasn’t serious:
“Aparentemente la herida sufrida en la pierna derecha no es de gravedad, pero ameritó que Padilla fuera atendido en el hospital Metropolitano Vivian Pellas.”
We still have another year of Vicente’s drunken escapades to look forward to!
November 3rd, 200910:36 pm
PWH, Pujols has had problems with his elbow. He’s supposed to have a second arthroscopic procedure this winter, second winter in a row.
November 3rd, 200910:38 pm
yeah, sounded like it shouldn’t have much affect on him. I wonder if he’ll be able to get anything more than a minor league deal now though.
He’s lucky it wasn’t in New York, he could have ended up in prison, haha
Thanx for the Paulie stats. I was not aware he was that steep a price tag. Your a good man McFanny. I guess I am guilty of expecting a team to be competitive every single year. Unless a prospect is lights out like Heyward and Hanson, why not entertain trade offers for them. Freeman is not a sure thing. His numbers should not be considered as a lock for the Braves come 2011 or whenever. I was wrong about Paulie and admit it, but I still think Papelbon [if more affordable] would be an excellent addition. Derek Lee? He goes weeks with nothing from his bat, then, hits a 3 run jack and those Cubs announcers proclaim him the second coming! He is an excellent fielding 1B, I give him that. And how he gets those numbers at the end of still baffles me, but they are there. Hey McFanny, what is Lee’s contract value and status?
November 3rd, 200910:39 pm
Pujols already had something done on his elbow, I believe removal of bone spurs, and is supposed to be more than ready for ST
Nick from PA
November 3rd, 200910:59 pm
We keep hearing the braves would try to get a big bat by trading javy/lowe…what caliber of player are we talking about here?
If they’d be able to dump Lowe’s salary, would that put the braves in the running for Bay or Holliday?
November 3rd, 200911:05 pm
Per Cot’s Baseball Contracts.com I think CAB or RHR made me aware of this site, if not I apologize to whoever I got it from.
Derrek Lee 1b
5 years/$65M (2006-10)
* 5 years/$65M (2006-10)
o signed extension with Cubs 4/06, replacing final year of previous deal, which was to pay $8M for 2006
o 06-10: $13M annually
o no-trade clause
o award bonus: $0.1M for All Star selection
November 3rd, 200911:08 pm
Hey DOB, any predictions for the “Mad Men” season finale?
Enter your comments here
November 3rd, 200911:10 pm
Goodnite all Parting is sweet sorrow, unless dense is blogging, then parting is just sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wayne in Utah
November 3rd, 200911:33 pm
One of these days, I will probably need to find out what this “tweeting” is all about.
November 3rd, 200911:35 pm
I will probably need to find out what this “tweeting” is all about. (Wayne)
it’s canaries that are trained to carry messages
November 3rd, 200911:43 pm
Whew! And I thought it was some sort of internet gadget! Boy am I relieved.
How about if the Braves made a play for Cody Ross for our bat in the outfield?
If I were FW, I would explore the Lowe for Lee possibility with the Cubbies.
November 3rd, 200911:45 pm
What does James say about Prado’s projections? He seems to think highly of Kelly Johnson. (as do I)
November 3rd, 200911:50 pm
Adam Milligan Video | Scouting The Sally
November 3rd, 200911:55 pm
Efrim, I tend to doubt a team would sign him before then, because of the money. Teams know what other teams are thinking, in large part. At least when it comes to a lot of the likely non-tenders. But hey, who knows. Some team might be particularly enamored of this pitcher or that player, feel like they need to sign him early before someone else does.
But that salary…
November 3rd, 200911:57 pm
BJ Handbook Martin Prado 2010 projection – .303/.357/.430 7 HR, 2 3B, 29 2B.
By the way, Bill James has nothing to do with these projections. He neither developed the methodology nor has any direct input into them, just puts them into his handbook and collects a check.
Another Way to go on the closer Decision: Go ahead and offer Gonzalez Arbitration, if he accepts he should only get about $5 million this season. Then attempt to sign at least one or both of Kiko Calero and Brendan Donnelly. Both came back from potential career ending injuries to pitch extremely well for the Marlins. They should be able to be signed for $2-$3 million each. Add in Moylan, Medlen, O’Flaherty and Kimbrell. That would be a deep, versatile bullpen with the 4 or 5 guys that could close in case of injury or too many innings.
November 4th, 200912:19 am
So these player projections….they come from where? And, has somebody done any analysis of whether they end up being right on, optimistic, conservative, etc.
Just curious…don’t go to any real trouble if you don’t know this off hand.
Just wondering if you have ever been down to Tucson? There is a steak and rib place down there with the best ribs I have ever had…..you probably have heard that before. The place is on the NW side of town, and is called Lil Abner’s.
November 4th, 200912:22 am
I suspect that the Braves bullpen will closely resemble the one you are imagining. Maybe not those exact players, but those sort of pickups.
What do you think of Cody Ross for our outfield? I like Derrek Lee for first, if he is available. Could Lowe do the trick? Lee has only one more year remaining, and they have Fox as a first base replacement.
November 4th, 200912:26 am
ncsoots – unless your a professional scout with a track record your opinion and observations are no better anyone else though clearly you seem to disagree with that logic so there is no point in going in circles.
Everyone is a fan of their own opinion first and foremost especially on a blog. Nothing wrong with that…
FF is a good player but he is not banging on the door for 2010 or 11 with his performance thus far – stats and observed maturity and polish.
Prospects are a crap shoot regardless of ranking. You are disappointed more than you are surprised especially when you have followed a club/system for 30yrs.
That is why great scouting directors and scouts are in such high demand. It really is a needle in a hay stack job but I digress.
No one is saying FF is an A ball guy. He is not as developed or poised as Heyward. He could be starting in 2011 or 2012. If its 2012 you need to lock someone up at 1B for two years and LaRoche could be that guy.
There is risk in keeping a spot warm for any player and based on observations and stats Heyward (as of today) is a guy you don’t want to block. FF is a guy who could benefit from an additional 12-24mos in the minors.
Heck in the end Heyward may need more time in AAA (beyond June 2010) no one knows today.
This really isn’t a controversial position to take.
November 4th, 200912:36 am
Bobby loves Wagner and if the money works he could be the closer for 2010 with a 2011 option. I don’t think the Braves are sold on Gonzo as the closer.
Since they probably cannot afford Gonzo at setup and Wagner in the 9th he like Soriano may be done as a Brave.
November 4th, 200912:41 am
Don’t trade Vazquez for a power bat! Trade Lowe to dump salary, and direct those funds toward a free agent power bat.
November 4th, 200912:43 am
Sons of Anarchy and Mad Men … neck and neck for terrific drama this year, and both reaching new crescendos as seasons near end. SOA was wrenching tonight.
November 4th, 200912:55 am
Bill James projections have historically been optimistic. I don’t know who is responsible for them, I assume John Dewan has something to do with it (but that’s just a guess, really). One time I asked Bill on his site about one of them and he responded, simply, “I don’t have anything to do with those projections”.
I prefer ZiPS and MARCEL WRT projection systems. PECOTA, CHONE, and Bill James are also good, though.
November 4th, 20091:00 am
DOB, any news on Heyward’s injury? Weren’t they planning on doing some tests?
November 4th, 20091:07 am
Nick from PA, where do you live in PA, i live in Harrisburg and wernersville.
November 4th, 20091:09 am
DOB, caught an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm tonight. Only real reason I don’t watch it is because I never started from the beginning. But the dry humor in the episode that I caught tonight (more background noise while getting the kids to bed), made me laugh many times and I don’t even know the background of the characters and what not.
So, I’m going to have to buy it or find somebody that has it on DVD and borrow. Plenty of catching up to do.
Also, just bought the first season of Prison Break on DVD at a local used CD/DVD place. I’m sure I’ll like it.
But I assume you reccomend catching up on Curb? Of course keeping in line with the blog grammar police, I will now refer to it as Curve your Inthoosiasm.
Seems fitting to me.
November 4th, 20091:17 am
DOB, is Havana Sandwich Shop that little place that was on Buford Hwy, just south of Druid Hills?
Wayne in Utah: Cody Ross would be a good cheap alternative, but only if A big bat at first was acquired. Derrick Lee at first would be great, but I don’t think they will trade him coming off a very good year with nobody waiting to replace him. I mentioned earlier today that if Laroche doesn’t workout because of length of contract, then it might be worth a flyer on Carlos Delgado if he is fully healthy. He can be streaky, but he can also carry a team when he is hot. I saw him last season before his injury and he looked pretty good, plus he should be cheap. The pairing with Ross and Delgado would leave some extra money for the bench or bullpen to be better. I would love to sign Troy Glaus to hit against lefties while Delgado got a rest and to give Chipper a rest to keep him fresh. It would be a lot less of a dropoff when either are out of the lineup.
November 4th, 20091:22 am
If Subway can dramatically increase their market share with an advertisement campaign based entirely on the premise, “traditional fast food restaurants, particularly those specializing in hamburgers, generally make you fat. Subway doesn’t”, our society is pretty dumb.
November 4th, 20091:24 am
Strasburg = Nuke LaLoosh. Not that I’m putting the guy down, but it looks like his stats are like the fictional LaLoosh. Lots of homer, lots of strikeouts. I hope that the Nats don’t rush him to the bigs. He needs at least a year in the minors to be polished.
November 4th, 20091:48 am
P. W. Hjort, the thing is, is that Subway ALWAYS has the fine print to their ads, flyers and menu items (the “6 grams of fat or less” group).
It’s, no cheese, no mayo, no mustard, no olives. Pretty much Turkey Breast, Chicken Breast, Ham, or Roast with lettuce and the bread.
I can tell you that if you go to Burger King and order a Whopper Jr. without the cheese and mayo, it really isn’t that unhealthy. Or order a Jr. Bacon Cheeseburger at Wendy’s without the cheese or the bacon (still only 99cents then for a burger with lettuce and tomato), it too isn’t that bad – if you have only one.
Problem is most people can’t resist the fries. Or at Subway, they’ll do the footlong (which is just too much food), plus the cookie and the bag of chips. And then, once you’ve gone that far, you might as well just put the damn cheese and mayo back on it.
November 4th, 20091:49 am
ncsoots – unless your a professional scout with a track record your opinion and observations are no better anyone else though clearly you seem to disagree with that logic so there is no point in going in circles (ozzie)
perhaps you should spend some time on the board learning which posters are mostly right and regularly make the most sense rather than jumping right in and insulting a long time poster who is held in very high regard by the rational fans here. just sayin’
November 4th, 20091:56 am
That Jamal Crawford pickup is starting to look really good.
Good win tonight in Portland.
November 4th, 20091:59 am
what is that, bouncy round ball? bah
November 4th, 20092:03 am
Pretty much Turkey Breast, Chicken Breast, Ham, or Roast with lettuce and the bread.
No, seriously, I hear ya. And you’re not even accounting for the coke most people get. Personally, I don’t like getting cheese on any type of fast food, Subway or anywhere else. Adds a lot of unnecessary calories, generally doesn’t taste good, and most of the time it’s just processed vegetable oil, anyway.
But I don’t really like fast food in the first place.
November 4th, 20092:07 am
I prefer my secondary sports to feature a bouncy, round ball as opposed to a somewhat bouncy, rather aerodynamic, oblong ball made of pigskin and stitches.
November 4th, 20092:08 am
Checkers half pound double bacon cheeseburger with fries. There’s only a few hundred calories in that, right?
November 4th, 20092:10 am
my only secondary sport is pool, haven’t been a fan of much anything but that and baseball since my early 30s.
Kinda funny, I was a bit better football player-fullback and linebacker- than baseball player as regards skills anyway, but my heart was always in baseball
November 4th, 20092:24 am
I understand you played a bit. When I was a kid (and obviously still) I had a love affair with baseball. In the summer, we played a modified game (there were only 4 of us in the entire neighborhood of the same age) where it was more of a pitcher vs hitter contest. Every batted ball was graded by the umpire (that was an out, or a double down the line). Some days we played 15-20 games a day.
What I would have given to have had a tad bit more talent. I was not quite good enough to make the high school team. I woulda played for peanuts (plus a footlong subway sandwich, with double cheese and mayo!).
November 4th, 20092:25 am
And was raised with a professional pool table in the upstairs room across from my bedroom.
November 4th, 20092:38 am
Jonathan Papelbon is a heartbeat away from being the next John Rocker.
November 4th, 20092:40 am
Sounds like we need him!
November 4th, 20092:48 am
I really hope the Braves don’t end up making a deal for Derrek Lee.
While his year end numbers ended up surprisingly solid, I don’t see many more good years left. He’ll be 35 next season. He’s pretty much the next Chipper Jones. Until this season, he was on a decline.
I’d like to see how many games he actually contributed to the point where he won games for the Cubs.
November 4th, 20092:53 am
Good point on that Wayne.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Boston secretly wants to go in a different direction. Recently, they are similiar to the Braves in that they want good character. Not that Papelbon is a problem. When you look at the Sox roster, he kind of stands out as a potential loose cannon.
November 4th, 20093:05 am
You know I was joking, right…
Don’t know what happened to Lee in 07 and 08, but his 09 numbers were awesome at the end of the year, and he started out a bit slow. But, at 34, are you willing to say the guy is over the hill?? I think that might be a stretch.
Lee is an excellent first baseman, probably better than LaRoche. If we offer LaRoche arbitration, and he accepts, he will probably make near 10 million. I think for a couple of more million, I would maybe want Lee over him.
The problem we will have with whoever mans first, is the knowledge that the Braves expect FF to supplant them in the next year or two.
Carlos Delgado might be a good 1 year option, if he is healthy.
I know everyone wants LaRoche back, but put yourself in his shoes. Would you really want to come back to ATL, if they didn’t commit to you?
November 4th, 20093:06 am
It’s late even out here……later.
November 4th, 20095:44 am
I have the perfect answer to the Braves Closer problem. My boy Chris is ready to come back and will save 45 to 50 games for the Braves. Come on Frank Wren sign my boy.
November 4th, 20096:43 am
I would rather keep Vasquez and trade Lowe and Kawakami. Surely they could get a bat for two pitchers. Or since there is no salary cap, the cheap basta-ds could just pay for one.
November 4th, 20096:54 am
WHATEVER YOU DO, GET RID OF RAFAEL SORIANO, MANNY ACOSTA, GREG NORTON, MATT DIAZ AND KELLY JOHNSON.THESE ARE JUST DEAD WEIGHT HOLDING YOU BACK FROM WINNING THE CHAMPIONSHIP. ALSO, ADAM LaROCHE SHOULD BE RESIGNED, PLUS THE TEAM NEED TO ADD SPEED TO THEIR LINEUP.
Ritchie from Scotland
November 4th, 20096:55 am
I think we should save money on the bullpen. Offer Gonzo arb but not Soriano. If Gonzo signs it would be no bad thing as lefty’s are always handy. Maybe give Moylan a turn at closing, he looked great 2nd half.
I wonder if our strong rotation makes us a more attractable destination for big hitters this year. Anyone coming to the team should realise that we will be in the hunt for the East or at very least the WC next year. Could that attract Bay or Holliday? If so could we afford either of them?
November 4th, 20096:56 am
OH, ONE MORE DEAD WEIGHT TO GO, CHIPPER JONES. HE COULD BRING A MUCH NEEDED CLOSER AND POWER HITTER.
The Blogger Formerly Known as Billy
November 4th, 20097:04 am
wow talking about pickles and eating a burger with out cheese….slow morning for the MIB blog?
November 4th, 20097:10 am
Turn in, twixt and tween your tweets?
November 4th, 20097:15 am
tdmorgan: No further tests were planned for Heyward. Just a lower back strain that was producing radiating discomfort in his rear. Not uncommon stuff. He was supposed to rest and rehab a few weeks. It hasn’t been a few weeks yet…
cdog: a closer AND a power hitter in return for Chipper, huh? Yeah, maybe if it weren’t for the age, the $42 mill contract, and the career-worst season in 2009. Oh, and even then you’re assuming he would agree to a deal and waive his 10-and-5 trade veto rights.
November 4th, 20097:19 am
nfieldr: yes, that’s the one. It burned down more than a year ago and they moved somewhere outside of town. Now, they’re back. And I will be there soon. Greeat place, though I doubt the new location will have quite the perfect-dive feel of the old joint.
November 4th, 20097:28 am
Is lowe completely out of the picture as a possible closer or setup guy if you can’t move the contract? He, Gonzo and Moylan would make a pretty interesting 7-8-9 group. And in case of injury, you’ve got someone to step back in.
As one who opposed the LaRoche trade, I’d like to recant and say I’d like to bring him back. He impressed me.
November 4th, 20097:34 am
garfrombham: if the Braves are paying Lowe $15 mill in 2010, they’re going to get 200 innings out of him as a starter, not run him out there as a closer (he doesn’t have closer stuff these days), part-time closer, or setup guy. (A $15 million-a-year setup guy? Try trading that a year from now, when there’s $30 mill left on the deal.)
Marc in FL
November 4th, 20098:01 am
Hmm, you could have Lowe close. I know that means keeping his contract, but you can still save a lot of money by letting Gonzo and Soriano walk, not to mention Church, Laroche, KJ, and GA and Hudson resigning for less. They’d still have the money for a bat and Minor can take over for Vazquez after this season.
November 4th, 20098:18 am
The Kelly-Johnson-to-the-Pirates trade scenarios can end now. Rays traded Akinori Iwamura to Pittsburgh. I think they have their 2B for 2010.
November 4th, 20098:21 am
Promotion is an issue here. Go look for another job, bigjobsboard will help you on it.
November 4th, 20098:36 am
The Braves do like trading with the Pirates thats for sure. I think it is imperative that the Braves bring back Adam
November 4th, 20098:39 am
In 2003 Derek Lowe had a 4.47 ERA. In 2004 he had a 5.42 ERA(with outstanding stuff in the playoffs). After that he spent 4 years in LA, and his highest ERA was 3.88. LA is a heck of a pitchers park, and the NL west(or NL worst as they used to call it) lack hitting. LA’s weather is perfect, no heat or rain delays, as opposed to Atlanta that he suffered heat and a ton of rain delay’s(I think I remember DOB writing, D.Lowe is pitching tonight so another Rain Delay? or something like that).
He has proven he can bounce back(he just needs to find his groove like he had in 2008, and at the start of this season. I know he can bounce back, the thing is, even if he bounces back he’d be a 4th starter making 15 million/per yr. I obviously prefer Vazquez to Lowe, but it’s much easier(and profitable) to trade Vazquez(who only has 1yr left on his contract.).
November 4th, 20098:49 am
What’s happnin’ DOB?–Do you see any merit to a rumor of Vaz for Carl Crawford?It would seem to be win/win on paper.
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