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Hugh Jazz
November 7th, 2009
9:40 pm
Minor is terrible. looks like horacio ramirez.
J-MAN
November 7th, 2009
10:00 pm
Anybody else watching Fedor vs Rogers tonight on CBS?
JUST SAYING
November 7th, 2009
10:05 pm
Is it really that bad? Braves ticket office is emailing me and calling me to get my season tickets. Told them straight up to call in 2011 when you know who is gone.
David O'Brien
November 7th, 2009
10:25 pm
Redstick, Jman: Schafer would not be considered a rookie, just as San Francisco’s Pablo Sandoval, aka Round Mound of Pound, aka Kung Fu Panda (gotta like a guy with two cool nicknames at such a young age) was not eligible for Rookie of the Year this season (if he was eligible, he’d damn sure win it after batting .330 with 74 extra-base hits (25 homers), 90 RBI and a .943 OPS this season).
Sandoval had 145 at-bats in 2008. The cutoff is 130 at-bats.
Schafer had 167 at-bats in 2009.
Wide Right
November 7th, 2009
10:25 pm
I think we need Youk! Do you think we need Youk? Can play 3rd and 1st. Great righthanded power bat. Good D. Vaszquez for Youk? Lowe and Escobar for Youk and Lowrie? Everybody say Youuuuuk!
Crazy Trades McKnee
November 7th, 2009
10:28 pm
McLouth, Freeman, Medlen, C. Betancourt, one of (R. Delgado, Spruill, Hoover, or Rohrbough), one of (J. Ortegano, E. Osuna, or D. Delgado), and Canizares for Billy Butler and Soria.
David O'Brien
November 7th, 2009
10:35 pm
Although he had some bad luck in the inning he still need a ton of seasoning before he’s ready and this is not a knee-jerk reaction. I’ve seen him pitch several times before and I wasn’t impress then either. — Jay212033
Unless you went to the Arizona Fall League in the past three weeks, I’m assuming you saw Minor pitch at Rome, the only other place he’s pitched since signing with the Braves?
He made four starts at Rome and had a 0.64 ERA and 0.71 WHIP, allowing 10 hits, one run and no walks with 17 strikeouts in 14 innings.
So before tonight’s non-knee-jerk reaction, what have you seen watching him pitch that led you to believe he still needed a “ton of seasoning”?
(For the record, I think he’ll need at least a full season in the minors in 2010 before he’s ready, but I’ve only seen him pitch once in person and have no idea how much time he’ll need in the minors beyond 2010. He pitched very well when I saw him last week, and several scouts from other teams that I talked to, all off the record and not for attribution, said the Braves got a solid pick at No. 7 and a guy who’s pretty polished already and has good stuff. I didn’t get any indication from talking to anyone that he’d need a “ton of seasoning,” if by that you mean multiple years in the minors. But, hey, maybe they’re wrong and you’re right. I honestly don’t know yet.)
Moe Berg
November 7th, 2009
10:42 pm
DOB–Are you coming up to Chicago this week for the GM meetings? If so, you’ve picked a great time. Today, it got up to 68 for the first time in forever. It was sunny; the lake was very blue. I was out almost the whole day, opened all the windows, and wore short sleeves for the first time in over a month. . Hopefully, it will stay that way this week.
David O'Brien
November 7th, 2009
10:46 pm
Did anyone see Rangers prospect Tanner Scheppers pitch in this AFL game? Talk about “easy gas,” that dude was throwing 98 mph and made it look effortless.
McFann Ô
November 7th, 2009
10:46 pm
DOB Schafer would not be considered a rookie, just as San Francisco’s Pablo Sandoval…was not eligible for Rookie of the Year this season
…and BMac was not eligible in 2006.
David O'Brien
November 7th, 2009
10:48 pm
Moe Berg, I’m coming up, but the meetings are shortened this year, basically 2-1/2 days. And I’m not even coming into the city, since the damn meetings are at O’Hare Hilton. Not fun.
Oh, well. Last year Dana Point, Calif., this year an O’Hare airport hotel. Times is tough all over, right?
MZ
November 7th, 2009
10:52 pm
DOB —–
Hoodoo Gurus, your thoughts?
Moe Berg
November 7th, 2009
10:53 pm
I feel sorry for you. The area around O’Hare basically sucks. Not much, there but car dealerships. A bit pitiful. Sorry you can’t extend your time, when the city is actually seeming pretty nice. (It has been overcast and glum much of the last month.)
David O'Brien
November 7th, 2009
10:55 pm
And the Winter Meetings are in Indianapolis this year. Vegas last year, Indy this year.
David O'Brien
November 7th, 2009
10:59 pm
MZ: what are we gonna have, a quiz about bands I listened to 25 years ago in college? Hoodoo Gurus were cool, particularly their Mars Needs Guitars album.
I mean, they weren’t The Replacements or anything, but they were good.
MZ
November 7th, 2009
11:01 pm
ha, my bad
Wide Right
November 7th, 2009
11:07 pm
I’m so…I’m so…unsatisfied!
nolie
November 7th, 2009
11:17 pm
I Can’t Get No Satisfaction…either
Moe Berg
November 7th, 2009
11:19 pm
Indianapolis is worse than an airport hotel at O’Hare. I’m not terribly fond of Chicago, but it is way better than Indy. Why? I know the economy is not great, but they don’t have to perform frugality to quite that extent. Go to the Blue Ridge Mountains at least.
BravoMan
November 7th, 2009
11:34 pm
I go to college in Indy. I’m gonna stalk the meetings…
Joebrave
November 7th, 2009
11:38 pm
Did anyone watch Schafer’s pitiful effort early this past season? That kid is CAT PUKE!!!!
Moe Berg
November 7th, 2009
11:42 pm
BravoMan–what do you study there?
Nelson S.
November 7th, 2009
11:44 pm
Nice save for Kimbrel
BravoMan
November 7th, 2009
11:44 pm
Moe Berg,
Sports Management my man.
Joebrave
November 7th, 2009
11:46 pm
Please from this day hence stop with the infernal I want’s for
A.Dunn(not happening)
M.Cameron( too Old)
Milton Bradley(anyone that wants him has no baseball acumen)
Holliday (Too Expensive)
Juan Pieere(Hilarious)
J.Dye( see Loaf part deux)
Matt Joyce(are ya kidding)
Carl Crawford( never happening)
Dan by god UGGLY ( umm Hell no)
Jason Bay( a possibility but see M.Holliday)
and did someone really mention Alfonso Soriano?????
Pitchers to shy away from
Putz
Wagner
Smoltz
Nathan
If the Braves happen to trade a starter, then the only LH starter I am looking at is Noah Lowry, could be a buy low high reward type investment.
no can we all say
R.Ludwick
Maybe Andre Ethier due to perhaps the pending legalities in L.A.
or an outside chance of Nelson Cruz.
Unless Wren does the unthinkable and trades Yunel, at which point I would be the first to want his ass gone!!!
Oh one more thing Kelly Johnson, Ryan Church, Jo Jo reyes, and Boone logan have ZERO trade value, and will most probably be non-tendered.
Joebrave
November 7th, 2009
11:50 pm
here are some closer options
Rafael Betancourt
Brett Myers
Gonzo
Soria
and
Arrendondo
BravoMan
November 7th, 2009
11:55 pm
DOB, do you think the Hudson extension has a good chance to be announced on Monday?
Bob
November 7th, 2009
11:59 pm
I see that Greg Norton is among those filing for free agency. Is it too late to offer him a contract?
BravoMan
November 8th, 2009
12:02 am
Bob,
I know you’re kidding, but ol Norty will retire. Personally I think the only Braves to return from FA is Gonzalez, maybe LaRoche, but that seems like a long shot. Time will tell.
David O'Brien
November 8th, 2009
12:27 am
Moe Berg, Chicago’s a great city, man. What’s not to like, other than the cold-arse winters?
Nelson S.
November 8th, 2009
12:34 am
BravoMan,
What school for sports management?
Moe Berg
November 8th, 2009
12:37 am
The winter’s are excruciating. And to be honest, the el line I take to work is always under repair. I never know if it will take me 20 minutes or an hour-and-a-half to get to work. That is indicative of broader administrative problems with the city. I love the music, the arts, the food. But there are so many parts of everyday life that are so difficult.
When I was younger and living in Boston and New York, I could overlook such things. However, they start to pile up after awhile. For instance, once one registers a car in Illinois, one has 30 days to then register it with the city (a secondary requirement). Both times this has happened in the year-and-a-half that I have lived in Chicago, I have nonetheless received tickets. They are overturned on appeal, but I have to waste a hell of a long time in the appeal process.
I love the city in terms of spectacle. Everyday life is something else.
David O'Brien
November 8th, 2009
12:38 am
BravoMan, I think it’ll probably be Monday or Tuesday.
Moe Berg
November 8th, 2009
12:39 am
And, I forgot to mention. I have a wife from India. Before she moved to Atlanta (where she met), she had never before experienced temperatures below 50 degrees. Let’s just say I hear about this all winter long.
Moe Berg
November 8th, 2009
12:43 am
BravoMan, So what does sports management entail in terms of course work. I’m a professor here in Chicago but have no idea what a sports management degree would entail.
Nelson S.
November 8th, 2009
12:50 am
Moe Berg,
I know you’re asking BravoMan but I’m also in a sports management program, but i’m at UMass. For us, we have to take a combination of business courses like finance, economics, accounting, etc. and sports related classes like sport law, sport marketing, sport finance and business, etc.
Moe Berg
November 8th, 2009
12:58 am
Nelson S.–Ah, I see. Are you in Amherst, Boston, or elsewhere? Are you liking your studies? I realize that I am sounding like a bit of a fuddy-duddy, but am trying to understand what my students are studying. If you live in Boston, where do you live? I used to live there–studied in the area some and loved it.
uga-brave
November 8th, 2009
12:58 am
dob.
saw the men that stare at goats. skip it.
pretty bad flick.
hurt locker was probably the best movie of the year.
uga-brave
November 8th, 2009
12:59 am
hurt locker was a great film.
uga-brave
November 8th, 2009
1:03 am
i thought michael clayton was a great movie. clooney has a axe to grind.
brother where art thou was great.
goats not so much.
Nelson S.
November 8th, 2009
1:05 am
Moe Berg- I’m in Amherst. I love it, obviously a long way from home ( live in Atlanta) but the professors are all top notch and we have famous alum like Mike Tannenbaum- GM of the Jets, Neal Huntington – GM of the Pirates, Chris Antonetti – assistant gm of the Indians, and a ton of other people in the industry. So it’s a very well known program.
Moe Berg
November 8th, 2009
1:14 am
Nelson S.–I love Amherst as a town. When I lived in Cambridge, I would go out west some on weekends and loved everywhere I went. I once had a girlfriend from out that direction–from Springfield. Western Mass is beautiful. Enjoy your time out there. Do you ever make it in to Boston? I, too, am from Atlanta, but really enjoyed my time in Boston.
Hope you are liking school.
TnBrian
November 8th, 2009
1:14 am
Saw 6 sucked pretty bad to. Not that 2,3,4,5 were great movies or anything, but this one was a waste of 2 hours of my life. When were sequal’s really any that good anyways? Best movie we went to see the last few years has to be The Hangover.
Getting antsy here wanting to know the scoop with what my team might be up to… internet is spoiling us so bad.
TnBrian
November 8th, 2009
1:21 am
Reading some people over reacting about a pitcher having a rough outing who won’t even be ready in 2010 regardless is fu*** silly. Who cares? Worry about now & Minor in 2011 or 2012.
Nelson S.
November 8th, 2009
1:21 am
Moe Berg- Yes it is definitely beautiful out here, especially now in the Fall. I’ve really grown to love the change of scenery from the city lifestyle back home. I have been to Boston a few times, not many, it but does seems like a fun place.
Moe Berg
November 8th, 2009
1:33 am
Nelson S.–Sure it is beautiful. I remember living in Cambridge and exploring the state during the fall (and New England more broadly). I have explore the region here in the midwest for the fall. (I went up to Madison a couple of weeks ago.) Quite beautiful, though not the same as New England. Are you wanting to be in baseball management? That should be quite fun.
Moe Berg
November 8th, 2009
1:51 am
Does anyone else here follow cricket? Australia just bowled out India. Looks like they will win the ODI (One Day International) series. India went up early, but Australia has battled back. Not what I was hoping for.
Nelson S.
November 8th, 2009
1:52 am
Moe Berg- Yes, baseball operations. It definitely would be fun, too bad everyone else wants to do it too.
Moe Berg
November 8th, 2009
1:55 am
Just be good at what you do. And then, it does not matter what others want to do. Try to line up an internship with Theo Epstein. I’m sure he has interns. My sister studied with his dad (BU professor), but that was quite some years ago.
I understand the anxiety of trying to break into a field. Good luck to you.
uga-brave
November 8th, 2009
2:28 am
moe berg,
great name, moe berg. do you sell cheap suits?
ncscoots
November 8th, 2009
6:22 am
Last night was the first time I had seen Minor pitch, and, results notwithstanding, I kinda liked what I saw. Fastball is sneaky fast, and he threw a couple of major-league changeups to righties. Seems lanky, but he looks pretty solid in his lower body and legs. Didn’t really see enough of him to think about his mechanics, LOL. Hey, better pitchers than Mike Minor have had early bleeders lead to a big inning. Besides, that **** don’t go on the back of the bubblegum card.
Anyhoo, it will be interesting to see how he progresses with a full minor league season.
ncgary
November 8th, 2009
7:01 am
jays gm shopping halladay, not looking too good on unloading lowe now, maybe we have a 15 million closer
ncgary
November 8th, 2009
7:15 am
sure would be nice to have turners money in behind bravos this year. halladay and bay would bring out the fans.
think jays would take hicks freeman diaz medlin, i know payroll makes no sense with 7 starters but it dont with 6 either
ncgary
November 8th, 2009
7:18 am
halladay hanson hudson vazquez and jjj. trade lowe and kk for a bag of balls
Jimmy Joe
November 8th, 2009
8:18 am
I think the Braves will have to end up trading Vazquez. Lowe makes way too much money and is way too old. What can the Braves get for Vazquez?
Wjones
November 8th, 2009
8:48 am
“N8
November 7th, 2009
6:50 pm
“Hey DOB! Do u think the Braves would sign Brett Myers cheap & give him the closers job.”
If that’s the case DOB better duck after he asks Bret any questions after a tough loss. BOOM! Outa Here!!”
I doubt DOB has anything to worry about. Most wife-beaters aren’t brave enough to attack men. But Carroll might need an escort/bodyguard to interview him.
Lew
November 8th, 2009
8:49 am
DOB-Chicago may well be a great city, but O’Hare airport is the absolute worst I’ve ever been in. God help you if you have a flight coming up and you have to change terminals.
Moe Berg-It’s not quite as big a difference as India to Chicago, but I sympathize with your wife. We moved from Orlando to central Vermont. It hit 36 below zero (actual temperature) here the first winter after we arrived. Brutal. Took about seven years to really come to terms with winter after 40 years in Georgia and Florida.
Lew
November 8th, 2009
8:55 am
You know, I really wonder about so any people thinking that Lowe’s $15 mil per season at age 36 is so out of line. Would you rather pay him that amount or Oliver Perez $12 mil per year? How about Jamie Moyer? If he hits the incentives in his two year deal at age 46 (that’s ten years older than owe for you mathematically challenged Denizens), he would make $10 mil per year.
I fail to see how Lowe’s salary is anywhere near as bad as those two contracts (he DID win games and eat innings). I would be shocked if I couldn’t find a bunch more contracts that make much less sense than Lowe’s.
Jimmy Joe
November 8th, 2009
8:56 am
Does anyone think the White Sox would trade Carlos Quentin for Nate McLouth? Schafer could play center and Quentin could play left.
Jimmy Joe
November 8th, 2009
8:58 am
Lew – What teams need or have enough money to trade for Lowe?
Jay212033
November 8th, 2009
9:28 am
DOB
I saw Minor pitch several times at Vandy and in Rome and his stuff was not impressive to me. His FB is mediocre he leaves it up and in the zone way too often, his change up is a good but so was Chuck James’ , his slider and CB still need work. What I’m saying is that he’s still 2 maybe 3 years away from being a ML starter and if you think different then that’s you and the couple scouts you talked with opinions, other scouts have said the exact opposite of what the scouts you talk said. I really hope that Minor make me eat crow and i’ll be the 1st to apologize but I have seen this guy on several occasions and I just don’t see what you and those scouts are saying.
TommyP
November 8th, 2009
9:33 am
DOB: I’m assuming the guy that said he wasn’t impressed with Minor in the past was referring to his Vandy days. They do show a lot of SEC baseball in the South.
Just curious….but this is to all of the trade-detractors that come on the blog and crticize those that actually come up with a hitter to deal for. Which player would YOU target?
I admit that some of the names that people throw around aren’t feasible but at least people are being specific.
If you’re going to rip someone for going on the record with a player they’d like to see the Braves pursue, rip ‘em like you usually do but follow that with a specific player YOU feel the Braves should acquire.
I haven’t had time to look around to see who’s available, which team has a prospect ready to plug in, etc. But I would look into a smaller deal for Chase Headley. Not as the RH bopper we need but as a guy we can play a few places (OF, 3B) and groom as Chipper’s replacement.
Lew
November 8th, 2009
9:34 am
Jimmy Joe-I bet you could find a good many, but the Yankees will be looking for pitching (and bats-anything to make them totally dominant), the Angels will need pitching, whether or not they re-sign Lackey. The Cubs need pitching. The Red Sox need pitching. The Mets need pitching (I wouldn’t trade in division, though). Damn. Just about everyone needs pitching except for the Braves and Giants. Only the Braves have tradeable pitching in excess, though and there is damned little available besides Lackey on the FA market.
There is not but maybe one or two teams in all of MLB that would not be improved by the addition of Lowe. I guarantee there will be takers and we won’t have to eat any salary-IF Wren decides to go in that direction. I’m betting Vazquez will not bring the bat that so many here seem to think. I see most clubs being more willing to believe (based on track records) that Lowe’s (somewhat substandard) season is more an aberration than Javy’s-whose season and future, I believe would be enhanced appreciably by remaining in ATlanta.
Jay212033
November 8th, 2009
9:37 am
P.W Hjort – Why does an 18 Y.O. need to throw 6+ innings in the Sally Leagues?
It doesn’t make a difference to me but ugaaccountant stated that he hasn’t done much and he doesn’t pitch deep into games. I was just pointing out to him that he had. As an 18 Y.O. it is super impressive to see him pitching 7-8 innings in a game though.
Lew
November 8th, 2009
9:38 am
Jay(with assorted numbers0-Whether or not Minor is all that, we have plenty of time and other pitching talent to let him develop-or not. It really isn’t as big a deal as many are making it. WE already have Jurrjens for four more years, Hanson for either five or six, Hudson for another three, etc. We have time and Minor is NOT the only talented pitcher in the Farm System. Don’t attach so much importance to MInor. There’s no reason to.
Jay212033
November 8th, 2009
9:55 am
Lew if that’s the case then why not just draft a HS arm with more upside? Like I said I really hope that Minor turns out 2 be a good ML pitcher but I really don’t see it.
Lew
November 8th, 2009
10:18 am
Jay-Dude, I just have to believe that our professional scouts know a bit more than you or I do. Obviously, they believed they chose the best pitcher at that point in time that they could find. I refuse to accept a lousy 14 innings and one bad AFL start as an indication the Dude is a Dog and as worthless as so many seem to think..
Lew
November 8th, 2009
10:19 am
I didn’t mean to make that sound like his 14 innings were lousy-they weren’t. I meant ONLY fourteen innings was insignificant for evaluation purposes..
Moe Berg
November 8th, 2009
10:26 am
uga-brave– “moe berg,great name, moe berg. do you sell cheap suits?”
No suits. Moe Berg was a catcher in the majors in the 1920s-1930s. A quirky fellow who spoke lots of languages and went on to become a spy.
Random
November 8th, 2009
10:28 am
ncgary (November 8th, 2009 7:18 am): “halladay hanson hudson vazquez and jjj. trade lowe and kk for a bag of balls”
Kawakami will not be traded.
(”Bag of balls”, my ass.)
Random
November 8th, 2009
10:34 am
TnBrian (November 8th, 2009 1:14 am): “When were sequal’s really any that good anyways?”
Sigh.
Godfather II?
Sigh.
No matter how many allowances I make for a homeboy, regardless of how much slack I cut for a fellow Volunteer, in the end I cannot escape the pure, simple, unadulterated and obvious fact that you are a stupid@ss dwmbfwck.
Why can I not reconcile myself to that, and just accept it as it is?
Moe Berg
November 8th, 2009
10:37 am
“Only the Braves have tradeable pitching in excess, though and there is damned little available besides Lackey on the FA market.”
I completely agree. After Lackey on the FA market, there is Randy Wolf, Brad Penny and who else? Carl Pavano? Many teams will be talking to the Braves.
Random
November 8th, 2009
10:39 am
Jay212033 (November 8th, 2009 9:55 am): “Lew if that’s the case then why not just draft a HS arm with more upside?”
No reliable “track record” for HS pitcher.
In that context, “upside” is objectively meaningless.
Jay212033
November 8th, 2009
10:40 am
Lew
I never said he was worthless or a dog, I stated what I think from my personal observation of Minor after seeing him pitch on more than 1 occasion.
Also professional scout are wrong more than they are right. When you scout hundreds of players, draft and sign about 25 players a year good there’s a chances on 2-3 of them becoming useful ML player pretty good.
Jay212033
November 8th, 2009
10:44 am
Random
No track record….. what?!?! So I guess HS guys don’t actually “play” baseball.
Random
November 8th, 2009
10:49 am
Lew (November 8th, 2009 9:34 am): “Jimmy Joe-I bet you could find a good many, but the Yankees will be looking for pitching (and bats-anything to make them totally dominant), the Angels will need pitching, whether or not they re-sign Lackey. The Cubs need pitching. The Red Sox need pitching. The Mets need pitching (I wouldn’t trade in division, though). Damn. Just about everyone needs pitching except for the Braves and Giants. Only the Braves have tradeable pitching in excess, though and there is damned little available besides Lackey on the FA market.
“There is not but maybe one or two teams in all of MLB that would not be improved by the addition of Lowe. I guarantee there will be takers and we won’t have to eat any salary-IF Wren decides to go in that direction.”
I’m right behind you, bud.
(But please don’t think the less of me for allowing you to crawl out on that limb first.)
Random
November 8th, 2009
10:52 am
Jay212033 (November 8th, 2009 10:44 am): “No track record….. what?!?! So I guess HS guys don’t actually “play” baseball.”
Exactly.
See? You’re not as stupid as you first appear. WTG!!!
Random
November 8th, 2009
10:53 am
Out for road trip.
Lew
November 8th, 2009
10:55 am
Random-That’s OK-I realize Wren might go in a totally different direction and maybe that IS the way he should go. Who really knows? I’ve found so far that FW seems to have a good idea what he’s about and I’ll just have to see how it all turns out.
Personally, I’d prefer keeping Vazquez and signing him more long term, but I can make a case for it being any one of Lowe, Vazquez and/or Kawakami. I’m thinking Lowe will be the one, though, to see other pastures (greener or not) than at the Ted this coming year.
Lew
November 8th, 2009
10:58 am
Jay-Maybe not you, but there has been extreme pissing and moaning since the exact moment they drafted him. As for all draft choices being a crap shoot-yeah, they are. Always have been and always will be. T’is the nature of the beast. Sometimes you find a magic mushroom and other times you get eaten by the Jabberwocky. That’s life (or is it all fantasy?). It is, after all, just a game, isn’t it?
Lew
November 8th, 2009
11:00 am
Now Random-There are certainly Denizens who could use that bag of balls.
David O'Brien
November 8th, 2009
11:00 am
Interesting that Joe Torre is now hinting at staying with Dodgers beyond next season (says T.J. Simers on Twitter).
Got me wondering, might Bobby Cox have similar feelings midway through the 2010 season?
OK, just kidding (well, sort of…)
Jay212033
November 8th, 2009
11:02 am
Random
Stupid……. Why resort to such a statement, I have never said anything to you to provoke such a statement.
richbrave
November 8th, 2009
11:02 am
Just been posting up on the D.C. sports blogs about how putrid it is to be a home-town fan. So refreshing to come back to a team’s blog and post about the great possibilities for next year. And oh yeah, FALCONS take care of business this afternoon. I don’t want REDSKINS fans feeling better about their team and its ownership tomorrow because it would surely be an illusion.
CVan
November 8th, 2009
11:03 am
Moe Berg-
What do you have against Indy? It is a pretty fun city, so I have no idea what you are talking about.
Steve from OH
November 8th, 2009
11:03 am
Moe Berg–what do you teach?
richbrave
November 8th, 2009
11:04 am
DAVID O’BRIEN:
Wasn’t BC’s deal one year at a time anyway? I mean, the decision to return or not rests with him, right? Contract not-with-standing.
David O'Brien
November 8th, 2009
11:10 am
If you’re going to rip someone for going on the record with a player they’d like to see the Braves pursue, rip ‘em like you usually do but follow that with a specific player YOU feel the Braves should acquire. — TommyP
1. I don’t “rip” them as much as I try to point out when someone mentions a player I think is unrealistic or illogical for the Braves to pursue, in which case I usually point out exactly why I think he’s unrealistic or illogical.
2. No, I’m not paid to sit here and continually advocate what the Braves should do. When I mention someone like Nelson Cruz, I’m trying to point out a specific player or type of player that I believe the Braves will target, to give readers of this blog some idea of what I think the Braves can and will do. I’m a beat writer not a columnist; my job is not to advocate or suggest, on a regular basis, specific personnel moves, but to report on actual news or potential developments and provide my analysis of said matters.
Jay212033
November 8th, 2009
11:10 am
I’m done talking about Minor because I see that if my own personal opinion offends people then I’ll just keep it to myself but I thought that’s what this blog is for. Guess not!
David O'Brien
November 8th, 2009
11:12 am
Richbrave: I don’t know that, at this stage of the game, it can be said point-blank that “the decision rests with him.” It’s a bit cloudier than that, I believe, and I don’t think anyone in the organization ever wants it to come to the fork in the road where that’s put to a test.
Jeff R
November 8th, 2009
11:13 am
Guess Minor had major problems last night.
Steve from OH
November 8th, 2009
11:17 am
Also professional scout are wrong more than they are right. When you scout hundreds of players, draft and sign about 25 players a year good there’s a chances on 2-3 of them becoming useful ML player pretty good.
That’s just odds, dude. There’s only 25 guys on the ML roster, so if you’ve got 4 scouts signing 25 guys apiece each year, the large majority of them are destined to fail. Just how it is.
TommyP
November 8th, 2009
11:18 am
DOB: Go back and re-read my post you’re replying to. Only the first comment was directed at you. I followed that up by saying “…this is to all of the trade detractors….”
Wasn’t referring to you at all. I’m referring to those that will shoot down every trade idea but never offer any ideas of their own.
David O'Brien
November 8th, 2009
11:19 am
Jay212033: Didn’t realize you were so sensitive, or that anyone who comments on a blog like this could or would possibly be so sensitive as to care when someone disagrees with his opinion. I mean, I’m assuming your actual name isn’t Jay212033, so who besides you even knows it’s your opinion being debated?
If you think he’s two or three years from being a major league starter, you might be right. I’d say two is pushing it, and three years is unlikely barring an injury. But I also don’t feel that strongly about it. I mean, we’re not arguing about a Tommy Hanson here.
But a lefty with good command, a 92-mph fastball, excellent changeup and good breaking ball, as well as excellent mound presence and smarts? That’s someone that has plenty of pluses.
McFanny
November 8th, 2009
11:21 am
Hey what wrong with going into next season with 6 starters. Last time we thought we had enough 3/5’s of our starting rotation went down (glavine, smoltz & huddy). Keep our rotation together & put kk into long relief/spot start with medlen.
Lew
November 8th, 2009
11:22 am
Jay-You’re not offending anyone-We just think that there is too little information on Minor to make an effective evaluation on him yet. At this point we have to listen to the scouts, cause they have a better idea of his potential than we do. Believe me though-we have had to listen for the last several years to all the naysayers who claimed Hanson was not a bona fide Ace in the making because they claimed the Braves couldn’t draft pitchers. Efrim and I took considerably grief over that subject. Look how it turned out and Tommy was a 240th pick. Let’s just wait and see what happens.
In the meantime, take whatever pint of view you like and post it all you want-but if you do, expect that there might be others responding to what you have to say and not everyone will agree with your point of view. Don’t take it personally. It happens to us all.
Moe Berg
November 8th, 2009
11:23 am
Steve from OH Moe Berg–what do you teach?
I teach American Studies—urban history mostly.
Cvan Moe Berg- What do you have against Indy? It is a pretty fun city, so I have no idea what you are talking about.
Did not mean to offend—was just juxtaposing it to Chicago. In general, I’m not very fond of the Midwest. If I have to be here, I would much rather be in Chicago with its additional amenities. That’s all.
Moe Berg
November 8th, 2009
11:27 am
In the meantime, take whatever pint of view you like”
How the world looks a few drinks down.
Lew
November 8th, 2009
11:29 am
Moe-Never claimed to be a great typist. I caught that one too late. However, pint well taken, Dude.
David O'Brien
November 8th, 2009
11:30 am
DOB-Chicago may well be a great city, but O’Hare airport is the absolute worst I’ve ever been in. God help you if you have a flight coming up and you have to change terminals. — Lew
I wouldn’t know, since I’ve never changed planes at O’Hare. Have always flown in or out of there, not stopped on the way to somewhere else. But like Atlanta — they are two of the busiest airports in the world — you don’t want to have to change planes at a place that’s so huge with so many terminals. I used to absolutely dread changing planes in Atlanta when I covered the Marlins and flew out of Fort Lauderdale all the time. To the point where I told my travel agent to send me through Cincinnati (at the time a much easier, more efficient Delta hub) instead of Atlanta as long as it didn’t require more than an hour more travel time. I got so sick of either sprinting through terminals in Atlanta or missing flights after being delayed getting in there and getting to gate.
But I’ve gotta say, I never associated the misery of changing planes at the Atlanta airport as a reflection or indication of the city itself.
On the other hand, Atlanta’s then-terrible downtown (it’s still not very good, though it’s gotten a lot better than it used to be) was something I did always view as a negative about the entire city, because I never got out into neighborhoods like the one where I live, or Virginia Highlands, Little Five Points or East Atlanta, when I was covering the Marlins and staying at huge downtown hotels. I just saw ugly poured-concrete buildings, few restaurants, etc.
Thankfully, when this newspaper called to see if I was interested in interviewing, my then-wife — she attended the Univ. of Georgia — and I drove all over the city and I saw that it was indeed a very nice place (as she had always said it was; of course, I’d always acted like I knew better and argued otherwise).
But Chicago? That’s a great city. Nothing like a clear spring or early-summer day in Chicago, down along Lake Michigan or at Wrigley Field. Spectacular.