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Wayne in Utah (WWJJD)
October 29th, 2009
10:31 pm
Hey Random, if you are still hooked up. Adding a piece or two that are good basics guys can be catchy on a club. Nothing scientific or anything, but a certain style of playing can be contagious. Not disagreeing though with any of the points you made.
Braveheart
October 29th, 2009
10:32 pm
Jair’s 3.15 ERA over the last two seasons is the 9th best ERA in baseball, behind only Lincecum, Greinke, Santana, Halladay, Wainwright, Felix, Lee, Sabathia. And of those 9 best ERA guys over the last two seasons, Jair’s ERA is 52 points below his FIP, but Felix’s ERA is 47 points below his FIP, Wainwright’s ERA is 51 points below his FIP, Johan’s ERA is 82 points below his FIP.
Wow
October 29th, 2009
10:32 pm
“Second, all keylargo was saying is Jurrjens is no sure thing, and if the opportunity comes up to trade JJ for a player like Braun, he’d do it (I would too).”
Well, neither is Heyward or Hanson (more less so than Jurrjens) So how about the Braves trade one of them for a Braun like player? Since, neither are sure things.
And where is this Ryan Braun stuff coming from anyway? The Brewers aren’t trading him, even for Jurrjens.
Random (as Trailboss Gil Favor)
October 29th, 2009
10:32 pm
But I was replaced as Trailboss one episode and took over as Ramrod, bumping Rowdy out of it.
Boy, was he sore!
jeffrey d
October 29th, 2009
10:36 pm
Again I’ll say it…Fox has this game ending at 10:30. It’s 10:34 and we’re in the 7th inning of a two to one game!!
What are they expecting? A perfect game and a one hitter (that one hit obviously being a homerun)?
Soph
October 29th, 2009
10:36 pm
Boooooo.
jason
October 29th, 2009
10:37 pm
Wayne in Utah (WWJJD), Have not talked to you guys in a while. I agree on JoJo. I think as long as he is a Brave he will struugle, but the minute he is traded he will blossom into a 3/4 rotation guy. He shows the talent and the pitches. He just needs command and consistencey.
As for Lowe, I agree he makes way to much to close, but he was actually our worst starter this past year, and his first with ATL.
I know Javy is the most sensible trade piece. I also know MLB is a buissness. I hate the fact of seeing Javy go, because #1, He like Huddy wants to be here. #2 He has great stuff all the way down to mentral make up. Javy has pitched on some bad teams in his career. #3, as D.O.B said, he has been instrumental in JJ’s growth as a pitcher this year.
Is there a way we can trade KK to Seattle?
McFann, how’s it going? Taking my lumps with DAWGS in football season.
jeffrey d
October 29th, 2009
10:37 pm
three to one game now. But still.
jeffrey d
October 29th, 2009
10:38 pm
Wayne – I could agree to that.
kirkinga
October 29th, 2009
10:38 pm
Wayne, dude, I’m not mad. If you’ve learned nothing from all of this time we’ve been on this thing is that your buttons are way too easy to push, mine are not. You really get validation from this place, I just hang out and enjoy the conversation and sometimes learn things.
Luv you guys but I don’t take this place or myself that seriously. I seriously believe what I say, but I accept that some will not be smart enough to understand
I find all of this funny.To really consider trading JJ. WOW. If I’m mad you’ll know. One clue, there will be no “…lol’s!” in what I say. I was trying to keep it all in good humor. I wonder if you weren’t trying to arouse some anger, if so shame on you.
I’ve feel that I have made my case, some buy it, others don’t. That’s how it goes here. I’ve called no names, though I’ve laughed off the names I’ve been called. So save the “touched a nerve ” stuff for someone else please I know your playbook chief..lol!
I’ve laughed this entire time, really. It’s been fun and funny. Stop trying to start something..oh gosh…you aren’t gonna accuses me of calling you a racist or offending your political views now are you. Oh noes…..
Bobby
October 29th, 2009
10:40 pm
ugaaccountant-Where do you come up with the comment “The money would have basically worked to sign Tex and forego signing Lowe, if we had went with one of our rookies instead of Lowe.”? Tex took home $25M in 2009, $10M more than Lowe. That does not work or line up!
Random (as Trailboss Gil Favor)
October 29th, 2009
10:41 pm
Wayne in Utah (October 29th, 2009 10:31 pm): “Hey, if you are still hooked up. Adding a piece or two that are good basics guys can be catchy on a club. Nothing scientific or anything, but a certain style of playing can be contagious.”
Could be. Could very well be.
But it’s hard to make an impact (”be contagious”) if you’re not starting. And there’s only one starter’s position open for 2010 (we’ve both been assuming that the Braves would re-sign LaRoche).
So unless, the power-hitting, RH, slugging corner OF the Braves get is also speedy with “good basics”, a massive turnover of the ML roster would be required.
“Not disagreeing though with any of the points you made.”
Thanks, but we’d still be cool if you did. Gus.
Out.
Soph
October 29th, 2009
10:44 pm
Wait, was that the right call to end the inning? I missed it.
Wayne in Utah (WWJJD)
October 29th, 2009
10:45 pm
I don’t know kirk, you were just sort of sounding a bit like a dick there for a while. (feelings are not hurt here, notice I am not LOL) You seemed to be the one getting your teets in a wringer over the converstations we were having.
So, we can ask whoever it was to not lump us together, since you seem to know me so well…….
Give me a break.
Andrew
October 29th, 2009
10:49 pm
wow 2 innings for MO
Wayne in Utah (WWJJD)
October 29th, 2009
10:51 pm
If the Yankees win, it increases the odds of a longer series, so I guess this is good. Though it is hard to see Tex get that homer. That whole speech he gave when he signed kinda turned my stomach.
Soph
October 29th, 2009
10:51 pm
And, nope it wasn’t the correct call. What else is new though?
nolie
October 29th, 2009
10:51 pm
ramrod/trailboss/foreman/…all the same more or less.Great series 217 episodes most of which were titled “Incident of…” Mr Purple People Eater Sheb Wooley appeared in about half of them…but without his alien friend or any purple people either. First three seasons are out on DVD, don’t know if the rest will make it or not.
chip off the ol block
October 29th, 2009
10:53 pm
wow DOB if anybody could start up a conversation that will last for over 9 pages its you haha
hardly anyone thought of the JJ situation and now everyone is talking about it, even though nothin is gonna happen
brent a.
October 29th, 2009
10:54 pm
Okay, if Howard thought he caught that ball on the fly, then he would’ve just stepped on first, rather than throwing the ball to second.
But, the umpire, Joe Buck, and Tim McCarver all seem to have whiffed on this reality.
Andrew
October 29th, 2009
10:54 pm
here comes stinktoriono
Andrew
October 29th, 2009
10:55 pm
followed by chase butley
Andrew
October 29th, 2009
10:55 pm
in the hole jason worthless
Soph
October 29th, 2009
10:56 pm
DOB -
I’m sure you saw the college hoops preseason rankings.
nolie
October 29th, 2009
10:56 pm
BALLBAME!!! SERIES !!!! Yanks win the WS. We can all stop watching!!!
Wayne in Utah (WWJJD)
October 29th, 2009
11:00 pm
Did we dismiss the Nelson Cruz rumor/discussion? My greatest fear is that in the end, Kris Medlen will be pitching next year for somebody else, and that would be a shame.
keylargo
October 29th, 2009
11:04 pm
Would you really trade Jurrjens?
4:58 pm October 28, 2009, by David O’Brien
Hey WOW Do you know what the blog is titled?
N8
October 29th, 2009
11:05 pm
Just another reason for replay in MLB. The umpires have been frickin’ dreadful throughout the entire post-season. Pathetic.
That being said, McCarver is right. Why weren’t the runners on the move there?
Wayne in Utah (WWJJD)
October 29th, 2009
11:06 pm
key
How’s the weather down your way?? Getting a bit wintry out this way. No global warming in the forseeable future.
RHR
October 29th, 2009
11:07 pm
UGH. Stupid halloween candy. Are the phillies still losing? I have a RHoA reunion to watch.
nolie
October 29th, 2009
11:08 pm
My greatest fear is that in the end, Kris Medlen will be pitching next year for somebody else(Wayne)
Really? That’s your greatest fear about the Braves? Hmmm.
Wayne in Utah (WWJJD)
October 29th, 2009
11:09 pm
N8
Is it just me, or does it seem to be that the umpiring and refereeing in baseball and basketball (I don’t watch enough football to have an opinion there) getting worse, or are we just getting some much air time that their errors are being just now exposed.
Could be some truth to the Tim Donaghy ascertions.
Soph
October 29th, 2009
11:09 pm
Are the phillies still losing?
Yes.
I have a RHoA reunion to watch.
No, no, no. Please tell me you’re kidding, RHR.
kirkinga
October 29th, 2009
11:10 pm
Yes Wayne I asked KC not to lump us together. I think he believed you and I were arguing the same position. You apparently got upset. So I’m sorry if you were offended ok. I apologize that offended you.
I like you Wayne, I respect what you have to say. But we disagree on some things and you should really not take it personally or try to make it personal.
So I’m a “dick” huh? Aren’t you the Potty Mouth Police? How many times have you asked someone to watch their language? Tisk tisk .Wow, I’ve been called an ignorant slut and a dick too all because I believe JJ is an ace already and the thought of trading him is not wise.
But I’m the one upset. Ok.
Rivera is the indispensable Yankee, no disrespect to Jeter but Rivera is awesome.
jeffrey d
October 29th, 2009
11:11 pm
What’s RHoA?
Soph
October 29th, 2009
11:12 pm
Real Housewives of Atlanta. The most annoying women on tv.
Wayne in Utah (WWJJD)
October 29th, 2009
11:13 pm
My greatest fear about the Braves??? Hmm.
I guess my greatest fear is that in about 2-3 years from now, a lot of folks might be saying, “Wayne, you were right all along about Bobby Cox! He really wasn’t as bad as we thought!”
Second greatest fear is that Jason Heyward becomes the next Brad Komminsh/George Lombard/Andy Marte.
Third greatest fear is that Kris “My Little Pony” Medlen will be dealt to another club. (I still am having a hard time getting over the loss of Brent Lillibridge!!!)
mr baseball
October 29th, 2009
11:13 pm
Did anyone in the Fox production truck inform Dumb and Dumber on the air that the reason Manuel did not have Rollins & Victorino stealing was that he was concerned that if Utley struck out, they would both be safe and Howard would be walked intentionally.
The likelihood that Utley was going to strike out was at least as great as that of a GIDP, probably much more likely. Guess the two overpaid “experts” in the broadcast booth couldn’t figure that out.
Tonight’s question: which has been worse, the post-season umpiring or the announcing?
jeffrey d
October 29th, 2009
11:13 pm
According to Wikipedia
RhoA is part of a larger family of related proteins
brent a.
October 29th, 2009
11:15 pm
mr baseball . . . unfortunately, the World Series announcing has been bad ever since Tim McCarver became the color commentator.
In reality, I don’t think Buck is terrible, but I think he may dumb himself down as to not offend McCarver
Wayne in Utah (WWJJD)
October 29th, 2009
11:16 pm
kirk
You make a lot of assumptions about me that are far from the truth…..I was just wondering why you were so edgy tonight. Sorry to burst your bubble, but you have not upset me tonight. I do think you are being a bit of a …..well, I will watch my potty mouth.
jeffrey d
October 29th, 2009
11:16 pm
Real Housewives of Atlanta. The most annoying women on tv.
Oh ok. I think I’d rather watch the proteins.
Wayne in Utah (WWJJD)
October 29th, 2009
11:18 pm
So kirk, go ahead and stomp around and try to push my buttons, it aint working tonight.
keylargo
October 29th, 2009
11:20 pm
Wayne
Nothing has changed yet. We had one day in the 70’s and the rest in the 80 and 90’s. We had 12 days in a row of 90+ at the start of………………………OCTOBER!
Wayne in Utah (WWJJD)
October 29th, 2009
11:20 pm
I am waiting for the “Real Housewives of Riverton, Wyoming” to be launched. That’s when I will start watching something other than baseball, basketball, or Fox News/Businss.
mr baseball
October 29th, 2009
11:21 pm
How many more calls can these umps get wrong? This is getting embarrassing, but as long as Boob Selig is the commish, booth replays are out of the question.
Wayne in Utah (WWJJD)
October 29th, 2009
11:21 pm
key
Sorry about that! Well, I am glad to know that you are taking one for the team!!!
Soph
October 29th, 2009
11:22 pm
Oh ok. I think I’d rather watch the proteins.
Good call.
Wayne in Utah (WWJJD)
October 29th, 2009
11:22 pm
mr baseball
I quit watching about 2 innings ago. Kinda glad I did.
Wayne in Utah (WWJJD)
October 29th, 2009
11:23 pm
RHR
When are you going to get a gig on that RHofA show? Then, I would watch it!
Wayne in Utah (WWJJD)
October 29th, 2009
11:26 pm
key
Where in the Keys are you?? About 5 years ago, I spent a couple of days in Key West after getting off a Eastern Caribbean cruise (we didn’t want to just get off the boat, hop on an airplane and fly home).
Loved the weather. It was August, and hot as heck. Nice and humid, just the way I like it when I am on vacation. What got me was all the wild chickens roaming around. Interesting story behind that one.
keylargo
October 29th, 2009
11:30 pm
Wayne
I’ve been down here so long I take the weather for granted. Usually I don’t even think about it until I see the snow piled up on the sidelines of football games. It does have its’drawbacks though. I post one when I remember one or two.
Andrew
October 29th, 2009
11:36 pm
Kawakami for Pat Burrell ..whos with me…hes due for a bounce back season
keylargo
October 29th, 2009
11:37 pm
I’m in Key West too Wayne. I lived in Key Largo when I first moved to the Keys,but moved on down all the way to Key West to get away from the weekend Miami crowd in the Upper Keys.
Wayne in Utah (WWJJD)
October 29th, 2009
11:42 pm
key
Great place to live. If I ever get down that way again…..
keylargo
October 29th, 2009
11:44 pm
Let me know when you’re coming.
Wayne in Utah (WWJJD)
October 29th, 2009
11:44 pm
kirk
I tried going back to figure out where we went south tonight. If I misunderstood, I do apologize. Life is to danged short to get into it with a friend over nothing.
Have a good night.
Wayne in Utah (WWJJD)
October 29th, 2009
11:46 pm
With this economy, it might be later versus sooner! Same goes if you ever head out “west”.
kirkinga
October 29th, 2009
11:49 pm
Very true Wayne. Here’s to a great offseason and not letting disagreements get personal.
Andrew, KK for Burrell, I don’t think so. You might find someone to agree, give it time…lol!
I’d do KK for Crawford, but I know that’s not going to happen, but I wonder if the Braves could make that trade. Crawford is an upgrade in power and speed.
Wayne in Utah (WWFWD)
October 29th, 2009
11:51 pm
Gonna call it a night…..dang I am torn on who I hope wins the Series. It would be nice if I actually liked one of the teams…..
David O'Brien
October 29th, 2009
11:55 pm
That was a terrible call on strike 3 to Howard. But Mo’s going to get some of those. He’s earned ‘em. Still, terrible call.
And a worse call on the Utley “out” call at first base on the double play. He was safe. Of course, Victorino was about 8 feet from the base on the slide at second, with no chance of touching the bag, so the Yanks could rightfully argue it should’ve been a DP right there anyway.
Phillies did what they needed to do, win one in NY….
Bill, I’ve got a Harley Street Bob and a Triumph Bonneville. I don’t know how much you want to spend, so I can’t tell you what to buy. I mean, you got $15,000 to spend? $18,000? Or maybe $8,000? Makes a difference, obviously….
MZ: Don’t have the Mac anymore, so not even sure I can do Itunes on the new PC. Haven’t gotten to that yet. That’s why I bought a second Ipod and downloaded 2300 songs on it before I turned in the Mac (I already had one Ipod with 1250 songs, so I’m all set with the Ipods)….
Soph: Yes, saw the rankings. But knew that was coming. They were No. 1 in every preview magazine and every other poll I saw since last season ended. Scares me to be consensus No. 1, because so rarely does that team end up winning in football or basketball, it seems. But UNC did it last year, and Florida has in football, so we’ll see….
Wayne in Utah (WWFWD)
October 29th, 2009
11:56 pm
I would go for Crawford. I know a lot of folks on here want the masher, but if we had Crawfish instead, then McLouth moves down in the order. I wonder how he would do in the 4? Maybe somebody could talk Chipper into taking the 4 spot. We have a couple of guys that maybe would be successful at the 3…..Escobar, Prado or maybe McLouth.
Just kinda brainstorming here, but Crawford, McLouth, Prado, Chipper, Escobar, McCann, Diaz and LaRoche???
Am I all wet??
Wayne in Utah (WWFWD)
October 29th, 2009
11:59 pm
DOB
Used to love to ride….but about 30 years ago, it became painfully obvious that it was riding, or divorce. I bought a Jeep instead. Now, I prefer 4 wheels under my azz.
David O'Brien
October 30th, 2009
12:02 am
Don’t forget the Nelson Cruz matter, folks. It did and does make some sense.
By the way, here’s what I got from our notes network guy in Texas, when asked about potential free agents, non-tenders and possible trade pieces. He said this regarding trades:
Might consider trading OF Nelson Cruz in the right deal to allow them to move Josh Hamilton to right and retain Byrd as their center fielder. Cruz had 33 homers, but is not one of manager Ron Washington’s favorites for his streakiness and number of bad at-bats…. Would certainly consider trading an extra catcher (Salty, Taylor Teagarden or Max Ramirez).
Bad Scooter
October 30th, 2009
12:03 am
Eric in Albany, NY…where about in Albany are you? I go to school here, this is my third year here. Not exactly the place you’d find another Braves fan.
uga-brave
October 30th, 2009
12:04 am
DOB,
when was the last time a team was in the series that had two starting pitchers that were not on the roster in july?
David O'Brien
October 30th, 2009
12:04 am
Wayne: Why anyone would prefer four wheels to two is beyond me. Unless it’s very cold or raining, in which case, four wheels and a roof are good.
MZ
October 30th, 2009
12:05 am
DOB —–
It really shouldn’t matter if you’ve got a Mac or PC … if you put the disc into a PC, you should still be able to play the mp3s via Windows Media Player or whatever your media player of choice is … once you put it in the computer, just open whatever media player you use, and the track list ought to show up for you …
but, you can download iTunes for PC … it would take a few extra steps, but it’d be worth it
uga-brave
October 30th, 2009
12:10 am
pedro pitched great.
the dude had a bunny hole pitch all game.
the changeup went down all night.
cliff lee and pedro.
so who of all the super mensa types would of thought those two guys would of started for the phillies in this postseason?
David O'Brien
October 30th, 2009
12:12 am
uga-brave: it is pretty wild, isn’t it, that Cliff Lee and Pedro started first two World Series games for the defending Series champs. Two pitchers who weren’t on the roster at the All-Star break.
nolie
October 30th, 2009
12:15 am
yup, ol’ DOB’ll be riding a trike in another dozen years or so, eventually with an oxygen bottle like that dude on Sons. Never give up the wheels!!
uga-brave
October 30th, 2009
12:15 am
DOB,
we talk about pitching on this blog.
we might have the best 1-5 but who would be the shutdown guy?
nobody has ever brought up then none of our starters are southpaws.
nolie
October 30th, 2009
12:20 am
nobody has ever brought up then none of our starters are southpaws (Uga)
it’s been talked over several times, you musta missed it. Maybe Minor will provide that within a year or so
jMAN
October 30th, 2009
12:21 am
Speaking of the Dodgers… Offer me Kemp, Ethier, Loney, and Kershaw and we’ll talk about Jurrjens… or the Brewers… Gimme Gallardo & Braun and we’ll go from there… In other words Jurrjens aint goin’ nowhere.
Wayne in Utah (WWFWD)
October 30th, 2009
12:21 am
Dave
When I go down the road with my top down on my jeep, I am lovin it. Also, others see me a bit better than they see you guys on bikes.
Like I said, I used to ride the two-wheeler, but it became a fear issue with the missus. I just decided that it wasn’t worth it to put her through that. 32+ years later, I made the right choice.
Cruz doesn’t have very good splits away from Texas. Short of getting a better leadoff hitter, I still haven’t heard anyone tell me why Matt Diaz would be worse than Nate McLouth in the leadoff slot.
Diaz, McLouth, Prado, Chipper, Escobar, McCann, Cruz and LaRoche anyone?
I think I have heard some say that Nate thrived in the 2 slot in Pittsburgh in the early going.
uga-brave
October 30th, 2009
12:24 am
so now it is time for king cole.
well maybe all those innings he pitched last year might bite the phills.
saw it with kerry wood, saw it with mark prior.
so in a game with the nationals bobby cox takes out hanson.
hanson might of finished.
so all you numbletards ever thought bobby might of been protecting that arm?
mark prior threw close to 230 innings two years out of college.
Wayne in Utah (WWFWD)
October 30th, 2009
12:26 am
nolie/uga
I still haven’t given up on JoJo yet. Wouldn’t it be great if the dude started to put it together in the next year? He has some great stuff, and has thrown some very good games, but then he goes to heck about half the time.
Assuming we keep all these guys, with Medlen, Reyes, Minor, Campillo and Buddy (assuming we invite them back on a minor league contract) in the wings, I wouldn’t be afraid to deal two of our arms. Preferrably Lowe and KK.
But I am a realist, and know that probably wouldn’t happen unless one of the young guys showed well later in the season.
Then again, we could have 2-3 blowouts during the season, and be glad we have the backup. I do remember 2008!
MitchC
October 30th, 2009
12:27 am
I posted my opinion last night, but I think the comment got erased and the site crashed or something, so, since its not here, I’ll post it again, and hope it gets posted this time.
No, I would not trade Jurrjens. He is one of the top two cornerstones of our pitching future, along with of course Tommy Hanson. Both guys are young, have incredible potential, and can possibly anchor this pitching staff for years to come.
Since I know you want us to stick to just this question, and not to post who I would trade, I’ll do just that. Anyone who has read my posts here since we’ve been discussing the Braves pitching situation, knows excatly what I think, and who we should trade. If anyone asked me if we should trade JJ, my answer is an infatic, No way!
uga-brave
October 30th, 2009
12:27 am
nolie,
gotta hunch he was signable.
but if he is a decent southpaw i hope he has a changeup like jimmy key.
Wayne in Utah (WWFWD)
October 30th, 2009
12:28 am
uga
Haven’t you heard? Bobby is an old has been. He don’t know anything about managing. The game has passed him by….
nolie
October 30th, 2009
12:29 am
I think I have heard some say that Nate thrived in the 2 slot in Pittsburgh in the early going. (Wayne)
his numbers in the first 3 slots are all pretty much the same 260/350. he has a higher S% in the 2 slot but the PAs are small enough to mean little more than coincidence. I like him leading off better than anyone else we now have.
Matt did well leading off but 49PAs are hardly enough to mean anything.Though he has a much better BA his career OBP isn’t much different than McL’s and Louth has more speed.
Wayne in Utah (WWFWD)
October 30th, 2009
12:31 am
MitchC
Hey, don’t let a blog title stop you from talking about anything you want. If you want to talk religion or politics, some might get upset, but I promise I won’t tell a soul.
Wayne in Utah (WWFWD)
October 30th, 2009
12:35 am
nolie
I wasn’t even breaking down Matty’s numbers in the leadoff spot, just looking at his overall game. McLouth has more power, so I was trying to figure out if there would be a good alternate lineup.
I think Diaz stole 12 of 17 bases this year, though I am not hung up on steals like some are. If you have a horse, you let him run. Otherwise, dance with the one that brung ya.
What I really wish is that Chipper would be open to dropping down to the cleanup slot. We have 3-4 guys who could hit 3rd, but CJ is our biggest power threat (if 2009 was an aberration?).
uga-brave
October 30th, 2009
12:36 am
dob,
wayne you asked me when we were coming out to utah.
dude i love alta.
it is not a snowboard mountain.
our group has shrinked. in order to make our finances meet we took on a couple of snowboarders.
so vail. cant snowboard in alta.
vail was always my home base anyways. china bowl, sundown bowl.
wildwood, love that mountain.
uga-brave
October 30th, 2009
12:39 am
pretty sure pedro did not buy that blazer at brooks brothers.
nolie
October 30th, 2009
12:45 am
think Diaz stole 12 of 17 bases this year, though I am not hung up on steals like some are. If you have a horse, you let him run (Wayne)
statistically 12 of 17 is about break even in the steals dept, Louth has an extremely good success rate. Nate’s stats are the worst in the 3 slot of the first three, but again not a large enough sample size to prove anything. I have no trouble with Matt towards the rear of the order since I prefer to have decent OBP all through the lineup. As you say Louth probably has a bit more power but his S% is the worst in the 3 slot, perhaps trying to hard to hit for power? I just don’t see anything wrong with Louth and Prado opening the first.
uga-brave
October 30th, 2009
12:57 am
nolie,
in the off season, kelly was to become utley.
francoeur was supposed to become something.
well jason werth became what we all thought he would become.
well jeff, when you are playing golf this year at sugarloaf, look at jason werth.
uga-brave
October 30th, 2009
1:03 am
braves got better when kelly was gone, the braves got better when francoeur was gone.
look at the record after july 1st.
insert a thug in the four hole we would of caught colorado.
Jarryd
October 30th, 2009
1:21 am
DOB, I know you are a fan of The Office, if you haven’t checked out the Subtle Sexuality Webisodes, you should definitely do that, in order.
Jay212033
October 30th, 2009
1:31 am
How about Lowe, Medlen and Cody Johnson for Carl Crawford?
Wayne in Utah (WWFWD)
October 30th, 2009
1:32 am
uga
Hey, Colorado is beautiful, as you know. We have some other spots that are combo for boarders and skiers too!
Too bad. When you do come out this way, we will have to hook up for a few minutes. It is always a hoot to put a name and face together. People are NEVER what you have pictured in your mind…..
I have a lady that I deal with 3-4 times a week in our HQ customer service. About 3 years ago, we finally met, and have become fast friends since. Sometimes it doesn’t work out though…
Any good stock tips.
One time, I asked a travel agent how to save money at Disneyland. She said to stay less days!
Wayne in Utah (WWFWD)
October 30th, 2009
1:34 am
I don’t know Jay, being a prospect hugger, I really don’t want to get rid of our kids too easily. But Crawford is a tempting bat to have.
Did you check out my “Crawford” lineup a bit earlier?
Matt the Brave
October 30th, 2009
1:41 am
I have no idea why in the world the Braves would want to trade JJ. I mean, honestly. Try to trade Lowe or Kawakami before mortgaging the next few years on one bat. I think Jurrjens will end up winning a Cy Young here sooner rather than later.
Here’s how I personally see our rotation next year. Could be wrong, but it’ll be interesting:
Jurrjens, Hudson, Hanson, Vazquez, Kawakami/Medlen/any other minor leaguer who doesn’t end up in the bullpen… that’s pretty solid, but I’d like to see at least one lefty…
DOB, who do you see the Braves trying to make a move for? Or do they trade one of the pitchers for a bunch of minor leaguers and try to sign a bat in this non-existent market?
uga-brave
October 30th, 2009
1:53 am
wayne,
would love to hook up.
loved park city, but like i said my trip is got to include snowboarders this year.
not a snowboarder but we got to split the rent.
so it aint the original trip, but MLK weekend i hope to see powder.
johnbama
October 30th, 2009
1:55 am
Couple of things I have read from DOB and the real DOB. I agree should Hudson sign, witch sounds good and hopefully happens but we all know how that went last year, Lowe is the guy to trade. More than likely you eat contract or you deal him to a team with the same type of player contract wise to swap….Carlos Lee, Adam Dunn etc. If not Javy becomes the bait. I think the Bravos are better off keeping him and offering him an extension that honestly I think he would accept and going forward with a Javy Hudson Hanson JJJ rotation but we so need a big bat and above that we so need a game changer on the bases. See the Phillies. Utley Rollins Werth Victorino can all run. Something we are missing greatly. DOB, the real DOB, Cruz, maybe not that crazy of an idea but why not Hamilton. Yes injury risk he is. Drug issues in the past or based on this year still somewhat in the picture have taken toll on a crazy set of skills. With how there team is however and the guys now making decisions and stressing pitching I cant help but wonder if Hamilton may not be an option as well as a risk worth taking. Also, friend of mine was a M Byrd friend in high school and still keeps touch with him. He has four teams on his list of teams he would like to go to (he is a free agent) and although he was somewhat of a bust in Philly and Turner is much different than the launching pad in Arlington could be an attractive add for the Braves as a left fielder. As for Kansas, DOB, you guys are loaded. As a Bama fan I could only hope for that bunch of players. You deserve the preseason billing, as much as those polls are bogus and mean nothing, so just relax and enjoy another 30 win year and deep run in the NCAA
mr baseball
October 30th, 2009
1:55 am
uga:
After further review, I’m not sure the Braves need a “thug” in the cleanup spot.
Considering the Braves had offensive black holes at 2B, RF and CF for much of the season (and LF didn’t produce a whole lot either), the team numbers for ‘09 aren’t that bad, except of course for stolen bases.
The Braves’ run differential (+90) trailed only the Dodgers and Phillies and was just ahead of the Cards & Rockies. Instead of creating a possible hole in the rotation in an effort to trade for a Dunn/Cruz/Dye type, why not just re-sign LaRoche and find an affordable bat to play LF until Heyward is ready.
Possible lineup:
Diaz
Prado
McLouth
McCann
Chipper
Escobar
LaRoche
LF or RF TBD
If Chipper can still hit well enough to hold down the third spot, McLouth could bat either 5th or 1st, depending on how Diaz does at the top of the order.
The one thing Wren can’t afford to overlook in the off-season is the bullpen. Assuming that either Gonzalez or Soriano is not re-signed, Wren has to make sure he replaces the one who goes, and maybe add 1 more veteran arm, because once you get past Medlen, things are pretty bleak in the ‘pen.
Keep the 6 starters on the roster (assuming Hudson is re-signed, which I don’t necessarily think is a done deal), with Kawakami available in case something happens to one of the first 5, which will happen at some point. Better to have 1 too many starters than 1 too few.
Bay & Holliday are too expensive for the current ownership, and a potential trade involving one of the starters leaves the team vulnerable to injury, which we all can vividly remember from the recent past.
No need to do anything drastic and either damage the strength of the team or mortgage the future. Wren has made some very astute moves over the past year, and was fortunate that some of his efforts did not pan out (Peavy, Furcal, Griffey).
Hopefully, his efforts this off-season will be centered on retaining as much talent as he can afford and filling holes where needed, not swinging for the fences and re-visiting the trade for Tex.
uga-brave
October 30th, 2009
1:56 am
wayne,
still a clemson fan?
if clemson wins out, could be right there in the acc.
johnbama
October 30th, 2009
2:02 am
UMMM yeah about that Clemson team….they do well when much is expected. I would not hold my breath. GT is the class and by far the class in that league. Sure meltdown vs Miami but that was a revenge game and anyone that was real could see what was happening there. Better thought is the triple option the new vogue thing in the NCAA….spread has seemed to have seen better days.
uga-brave
October 30th, 2009
2:02 am
good to see you MR. BASEBALL,
always respected your opinion.
still need that big cat guy in the middle.
cant have macc there. he cant protect chipper. matchup problems.
so chipper hits close to .400 when tex hits behind.
then when a overweight catcher hits behind, .230.
Wayne in Utah (WWFWD)
October 30th, 2009
2:04 am
maybe spiller shows off here in his senior year???
could be interesting.
My youngest was born there, when I was a grad student back in 1992, so he follows them closely. I still pull for them, but baseball and basketball are my passions.
Ever been to the Kennecott Copper Mine museum in SL Valley? If you are interested in that stuff, well worth the two hours drive/visit time. I work in a closely related field, so that stuff floats my boat.