4:58 pm October 28, 2009, by David O'Brien
November 2nd, 20098:16 pm
That still has nothing to do with the Braves re-signing Hudson. Players can be re-signed at any point in the season. Freddy Sanchez just re-signed with the Giants this past week so the WS has NOTHING to do with that.
Rob from SC
November 2nd, 20098:20 pm
Note to AJ Burnett
Your 2 seamer sucks tonight, quit throwing it right over the plate
Utley is the best player on that team.
November 2nd, 20098:21 pm
Really if the Braves decide to trade Javy it would have to be a multipackage deal. Think about this, what teams would trade Javy Vazquez? The Rays, Marlins, Arizona, Tigers, Seattle, Padres, Pittsburgh, Oakland, Cardinals, Cubs, Giants, Orioles, Reds, Blue Jays, White sox, Twins, Boston, Indians, Royals, and Nationals aren’t going to be able to handle it financially, don’t need pitching, or just aren’t going to be competitive next year and won’t give up talent.
The Phillies, Dodgers, Astros, Yankees, Brewers and Mets might be able to make a trade.
Okay Nl east rivals just made the post season for the second year in a row. They always need pitching, Pedro is an FA, Hamels is a mistery, and Vazquez would definitely be a great addition, but I don’t think the Braves would trade them Javy, not even for Jayson Werth.
The Dodgers need pitching, and don’t have a lot of money, the thing is they have nothing available to offer.(obviously Matt Kemp, and Ethier are out of the question, maybe James Loney who is another Kotchman).
Houston desperately needs pitching, but they don’t really have much to offer(Hunter Pence, and Carlos Lee(he has a no trade clause) are unavailable I would think.)
The Yankees have 3 quality starters and money isn’t an issue, but unless they’d trade Hughes(or Joba) and Swisher for Javy there’s not much else around.
The Brewers really need pitching. When you think brewers, you think Braun and Fielder which they have said are untouchable. Mat Gamel is a great prospect who plays 3B(but he should be able to make the adjustment and play 1B), the problem is he hits left handed. Gamel, and two more prospects for Vazquez is something I’d listen to.
And the Mets need pitching, Another Nl east rival, with no farm system. What can they offer? Beltran, Reyes, or Wright? No way they trade one of those guys.
November 2nd, 20098:22 pm
Also on Vazquez like I said earlier I would trade him only if he didn’t sign an extention this off-season because his value is at its max right now.
And to the guy who said Lee is way past his prime might want to check his numbers again. If we had Lee on this team last year we’d be in the playoff.
November 2nd, 20098:23 pm
A pitcher’s ERA can have to do with the pitcher’s defense behind him and also the pen coming in and not leaving his runners stranded. Don’t forget certain border line calls from some umps. ERA isn’t a pointless thing to go by evaluating a pitcher, but there are other things that can play into a guy’s high ERA. Now, a guy’s win/loss record? Pointless to me.
Javy Vazquez has a no trade clause to the American and National League West
November 2nd, 20098:24 pm
“D. Lee is WAY past his prime.
Hmmm. Here are his numbers last year:
.306/.393/.597/.972 with 35 HR and 111 RBI. He’s 33 years old and in the last year of his contract (just like Vazquez is).
Those numbers would have made him the Braves best power/RBI guy on the team last year. A natural cleanup hitter and power threat on a team with one (cleanup hitter) or any legitimate ones (power threats).
If Lee is WAY past his prime, what the hell is Chipper?
I’ll be patiently waiting for your response.
November 2nd, 20098:25 pm
Vazquez has a limited NTC to all NL & AL West teams.
Add Scott Boras thinks Holliday is equal to Teixeira
I hate Teixeira, but he is a great two way player. He makes everyone in the infield better. Holliday is terrible in the outfield
November 2nd, 20098:26 pm
That is, unless you meant DEREK Lee? Then yes. I might concur. He’s possibly WAY past his prime.
November 2nd, 20098:27 pm
If a guy is 0-12 or 18-2 in a season, then I think you can go by that pitcher’s win/loss record & make up your mind that he’s either real good or real bad.
November 2nd, 20098:28 pm
If Lee is WAY past his prime, what the hell is Chipper? (N8)
a doddering old codger?
November 2nd, 20098:32 pm
Never mind. I’m on crack. I meant to type “Derek Lowe” in my last post. Not Derek Lee. Would’ve been funnier. Now that I had to explain it, it’s not. Wasn’t that funny anyway.
Either way. While you might be right (anybody in their 30’s could be moments away from being past their prime and a non-factor), about Lee being WAY past his prime. But true or false, his bat and glove would help the Braves for one season, if the goal is to go for it next year.
I’d even venture, that 162 games of Lee in the middle of the order would have more impact on our team in W’s than Vazquez’s 32-35 starts would. Especially since Hudson is allegedly on board and pitching isn’t our weakness.
Cubs would never do it. And if Lee is a 10/5 guy, he may never approve if the Cubs did go for it. But make no mistake, imo, if Hudson is on board and Wren simply did a Lee for Vazquez swap…..
The TEAM would be better for it. Talk about a guy that would change a lineup. Not to mention his defense. As good as LaRoche is, Lee is better.
Not going to happen, so it’s a moot argument. But I still like to argue.
Still, the Dodgers need pitching but I think they’ll go with cheaper options. Really there’s not much they can offer.
November 2nd, 20098:35 pm
The key to next season is Chipper Jones. I don’t know what happened to him, but where is the guy who hits 300, drives in a 100, and hits 25 homers per season. It isn’t as if he was hurt. He played in what 135 games?
November 2nd, 20098:36 pm
Lee Looks good, if they take this game the Phillies are in good shape. I expect Pettitte to get bombed on 3 days rest
November 2nd, 20098:38 pm
Detroit is having money issues, Is Cabrera a possibility?
November 2nd, 20098:40 pm
Rob, yes they’re having money issues mostly because they have a huge payroll, but they won’t trade Cabrera, no way.
November 2nd, 20098:45 pm
Braves join race for vaunted Cuban defector Chapman
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/baseball/mlb/11/02/chapman.braves/#ixzz0VkymBWGJ
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Vinings (soon to be Venice) Jim
November 2nd, 20098:46 pm
November 2nd, 20098:47 pm
Chapman’s career record is 24-21
Does this not concern anyone
November 2nd, 20098:48 pm
Jay – It may not be a rule that is enforced completely, but player signings are not supposed to be announced during the World Series. I looked up the Freddy Sanchez signing and it was released on Friday, an off day. Also the terms were not announced and MLB still has to approve the contract and then the terms will be released as well.
November 2nd, 20098:50 pm
Nice start! -VJ
P. W. Hjort
November 2nd, 20098:52 pm
He makes everyone in the infield better. Holliday is terrible in the outfield
Both of those statements are complete BS. Holliday rates as above-average in right or left and Teixeira doesn’t make everyone in the infield better. They make more plays as a whole when he’s in there, but that’s because HE is better, not that he makes THEM better. Equivalent of getting a better player at any other position.
November 2nd, 20098:54 pm
Soph – definitely!
November 2nd, 20099:03 pm
P. W. Hjort
He makes the team better because he makes a lot of plays that save errors. Less errors better team?
November 2nd, 20099:04 pm
Chapman barely has a record above .500, his ERA is near 4 and he has piss poor control(both on the mound and mentally) and teams are about to shell out 40-60 mil for this guy all because he’s LH and he can hit 100 WOW?!?! I really hope the Braves are not in on this guy.
November 2nd, 20099:10 pm
Chapman barely has a record above .500, his ERA is near 4 (Jay21)
here we go again
November 2nd, 20099:12 pm
Remember Chipper campaigned for Burnett? I think I would still rather have a durable Lowe at $15m than a injury plagued Burnett at $18m. I know I would.
November 2nd, 20099:14 pm
The new Converge album kicks ass.
Less hardcore, more metal.
Thrash is back? God I hope so.
Steve from OH
November 2nd, 20099:15 pm
Don’t over-value Javy. He had a breakout season, yes, but he is a career 4-plus ERA guy heading into his walk year.
Man, then you must really be hating the soon-to-be-announced Hudson extension then…
November 2nd, 20099:16 pm
we need a doo-wop revival.
What do you mean?
November 2nd, 20099:18 pm
Wow, what a huge play that blitz and fumble recovery/TD was for the Falcons. I’m going back and forth between games, while scarfing a plate of Rubio’s grilled mahi-mahi tacos. With black beans and chips. So tasty, even though it’s a chain.
Phillies gonna make it interesting after all.
November 2nd, 20099:20 pm
Please tell me people aren’t talking about a pitcher’s win/loss record for a team they’ve never seen in a league they’ve never followed?
November 2nd, 20099:21 pm
What do you mean? (Jay21)
just that we’ve been arguing the merits of ERA and W/L records re Vaz and you referenced it on Chapman which might start it all over again. just being silly.
Vazquez and Kelly Johnson to the Cubs for Derek Lee
Would we really have to add Johnson to that deal? Can the Cubs add Vitters?
November 2nd, 20099:22 pm
November 2nd, 2009
ugaaccountant — Take a look at Minnesota’s starting rotation. With the exception of Carl Pavano, nobody is over 27. Blackburn (27), Baker (27), Liriano (25), Perkins (26), Slowey (25), and Pavano (33). I was talking with a die-hard Twins fan over the weekend, and from his perspective, they need to add a veteran starting pitcher who is good. Could be a good trade partner for Atlanta.
As you showed, they have 6 starters of significant experience returning? Unless two are on their way out I guess that trade wouldn’t happen.
November 2nd, 20099:23 pm
Nolie, why a revival? It never went out of style … just go down to Century Village, you can find a doo-wop band or two playing most weeks, I’ll bet.
November 2nd, 20099:26 pm
How do you guys like phillies chances?
Pettite on 3 days rest again………….?
CC on 3 days rest just again?…………
Man I like phillies chances………..
November 2nd, 20099:27 pm
Enter your comments here
November 2nd, 20099:29 pm
He makes the team better because he makes a lot of plays that save errors
Sure. He makes the team’s collective defensive output better. And he may make some people’s perception of the rest of the infielder’s defensive value skewed for the better, but he doesn’t actually make them better. That’s virtually impossible.
November 2nd, 20099:30 pm
Also, I really like the new “fu-k buttons” record (yeah, stupid band name).
The new Flaming Lips album is also pretty amazing. I’m not a big fan of the Lips, but I really like parts of this record… 2 disks, 18 tracks total.
… just go down to Century Village, you can find a doo-wop band or two playing most weeks, I’ll bet (Dob)
well, a south Florida revival maybe.
I was really just fighting the Thrash reference. not my favorite music. almost as bad as the Clash. not great stuff like White Snake
November 2nd, 20099:31 pm
Kyle Reese (The Future): This system has definitely been thinned out by promotions and trades. Do you feel it is a bottom 10 system right now?
Bill Ballew(Baseball America): No. Some teams would kill to have the Braves’ pitching depth. By the Braves’ standards, it is not real deep. But when comparing it to all 30 organizations, it’s probably in the middle of the pack.
November 2nd, 20099:32 pm
In order for the Braves to sign Chapman, Lowe MUST be traded and maybe Kawakami or Vazquez in order for us to get that big bat we so desperately need. All I’m saying is why take a risk on a guy when pitching is not what we need at this point.
He’s also TWENTY-ONE YEARS OLD, but after the Braves spent $0.82 on the 2009 draft I doubt they’re seriously considering forking over $10+ million for Chapman. (Purely speculation on my part, but I really doubt the bidding gets over $30 million for this guy. Though something in the $10-30 million range wouldn’t surprise me).
November 2nd, 20099:35 pm
Did someone really say D. Lee was way past his prime? Come on. No one said that.
Lee is 33, in an era when many players are productive well into their late 30s. Beyond that, Lee hit .306 with 36 doubles, 35 homers, a .393 OBP, a .579 slugging percentage and a .972 OPS, the second-highest slugging and OPS totals of his career, and his second-most homers and RBI. It was the second-best season of his career, behind only his 2005 season when he finished third in the MVP balloting.
Way beyond his prime? That’s just brilliant.
But when comparing it to all 30 organizations, it’s probably in the middle of the pack. (Efrim)
yeah I think that’s a pretty realistic evaluation at this point.
Yeah Dave some dude told me that Lee was past his prime when I proposed a Vazquez for Lee deal. I bet he didn’t bother to check his numbers at all!
November 2nd, 20099:36 pm
“P. W. Hjort
Butler is probably going to hit 35+ homers every year, perhaps as soon as 2010. He’s going to be a super-star power hitter.
Of course, he’s pretty bad at 1st and his glove plays best at DH (hehe), but still, he’s a stud.
Gotta remember he’s 23 years old. Development’s not nearly complete, and he still hit .300 with 70+ XBH (including 50+ doubles) last year. 10-25 of those doubles are going to be homers pretty soon.”
I’m a big Billy Butler fan myself, would love it if he was a free agent.
His power is about the same as Laroche, who doesn’t cost us Vasquez to acquire. I’ve read for years about this guy, and overpaid for him in fantasy drafts in 07 and 08, but to be honest 09’s numbers were all I ever expected out of him. I read doubles guy more than homerun monster.
Also, I looked up his park effects and found that KC was 2nd most often to hit doubles in, and slightly harder than Atlanta on HR’s. Probably not that significant, but we certainly can’t project better stats based on the move.
It’s hard to say how a young player used to playing in the no-pressure situation of KC would respond. Maybe he’s matured due to trying to carry a team, or maybe he freaks out in the spotlight of a playoff race. We know Laroche likes Atlanta.
Finally, he’s only 23, but this was his 3rd major league season. I feel this was his big coming out and he’ll be at this level in general.
I do note that he’d be cheaper than Laroche and Soria is certainly no slouch, so there are good aspects here too.
November 2nd, 20099:38 pm
I dont think petite and CC will be able to hang on…….. this is not your AAA lineup……….pitches will catch up………They just showed Girardi what might happen when this phillies see too much of you.
Nolie, I’d be more inclined to believe you were a fan of Whitesnake if you could spell it correctly. (It’s not two words…. Well, it’s a couple of words that I can think of, but that’s another story.)
November 2nd, 20099:39 pm
Derek Lee was struggling early in 2009, so the perception lingered for a while that he was “done”.
DOB, what do you think of Ludwick as an option for our cleanup bat? I feel like if the Cards sign Holliday then Ludwick would be available for some pitching in return. But, is he worth the risk. Better things to do than answer that… I understand. All the trade scenario’s do get old, so that’ll be my last question.
November 2nd, 20099:40 pm
I will bet you that Chapman get 30 mil plus. If not the Braves will be in on him especially if they can move Lowe’s contract for nothing.
November 2nd, 20099:41 pm
Eric (Atlanta): There seems to be a lack of good position prospects in the system after Heyward and Freeman. Their 2008 draft was pitching heavy with no first rounder and their 2009 draft was criticized by many. What did you think of it?
Bill Ballew(Baseball America): There isn’t a great depth among the position players in the organization, but that simply provides a land of opportunity for several players. I expect DeMacio will address that situation in his first draft. As far as the 2009 process is concerned, I was surprised about the selection of Minor and Hale with the first two picks, which means absolutely nothing. I would have liked to have seen a four-year college guy with one of those picks, but the Braves didn’t see it that way.
I like some thrash metal, but most of it seems to be, well, just not music and more…yelling.
Is Posada annoying to anyone else here? Something about him I don’t like at all.
November 2nd, 20099:42 pm
Heaven forbid the fella hit like he’s thirty friggin’ seven years old. Know what Mickey Mantle did at 37 years old? No a god damn thing. Didn’t even play. Career over.
Mickey Mantle’s last four seasons combined: .254/.386/.450/.836
Chipper Jones, this season: .265/.388/.430/.818
Get used to it. That’s likely who he is now.
November 2nd, 20099:44 pm
And P.W. Hjort, I think the reason our fanbase wouldn’t like trading for Butler is because we would lose Laroche out of our lineup, so we’d be subtracting from last year’s HR total and losing an Ace pitcher, and be unlikely to still be in the market for a big stick to go in LF/RF, because Butler would be our big stick to hit cleanup.
November 2nd, 20099:49 pm
VJ soon to be VJ:
JIM, W&M is going to be a tough out for RICHMOND. I predict a real dog-fight. LAYCOCK has a great squad this year. I’ll posted you up when I get back from the stadium. Last time I was at a W&M home game, JOE GIBBS cut in front of me as I was in line to go into the stadium. J.D. GIBBS was on that team if I remember correctly, a d-back. 1990 wow, time flies.
Greg Olson Homers
November 2nd, 20099:50 pm
D. Lee at first would be awesome. I think he is a 10/5 though so that might be a problem to any trade.
November 2nd, 20099:51 pm
you were a fan of Whitesnake if you could spell it correctly. (It’s not two words (DOB)
you picked right up on that, can’t slip any music issue past you. I am kinda stuck in the 65-95 years and Southern Rock, minus disco that is. Actually more Blues than anything.Then Rock, then Jazz, then oldtime & outlaw country. Classical too actually.
November 2nd, 20099:52 pm
Mickey Mantle’s last four seasons combined: .254/.386/.450/.836 (Braveheart)
good point. Eddie Mathews was much the same.
November 2nd, 20099:53 pm
“Bill Ballew(Baseball America) I was surprised about the selection of Minor and Hale with the first two picks, which means absolutely nothing. I would have liked to have seen a four-year college guy with one of those picks, but the Braves didn’t see it that way.”
So a 22 year old Junior from an SEC school and then a 21 year old junior weren’t mature enough pitchers? I completely and uterly disagreed with this tactic. When you are drafting in the 7th spot, you should be looking for a superstar, not the most major league ready guy. I see this as the Braves drafting to make up for guys we traded away in the past.
nolie–I like classical and jazz too. Actually, pretty much anything except most pop, rap, new country and some of those really…um…really “hair” bands like Poison.
Of all the trade scenerios proposed here, the VASQUEZ, KJ for LEE trade sounds most like the BRAVES. LEW’s NICK SWISHER deal made the most sense to me though.
November 2nd, 20099:54 pm
Salamander, I heard that Flaming Lips CD is strong. Their darkest stuff yet, but strong. Personally, I thought The Soft Bulletin was and is their best record. A masterpiece. Still sounds so good, so original and interesting a decade later.
By the way, the just-released REM live album is a must for big fans of the band. It’s a double CD with 39 songs — old and new — done during a series of five free rehearsal shows they did before Accelerate came out, in a theatre in Dublin, Ireland. Some of it was captured on the DVD of the expanded version of Accelerate, for those who bought that version. But this is old and new cuts from all five shows, and the band is in fine form, sounding more muscular than a lot of their previous live stuff. And Stipe’s lyrics are so clear on almost all the songs. His stage demeanor seems uncharacteristically relaxed, with him chatting with the audience and joking with band members between songs. Much different than he is in an actual concert.
November 2nd, 20099:55 pm
“So a 22 year old Junior from an SEC school and then a 21 year old junior weren’t mature enough pitchers? I completely and uterly disagreed with this tactic. When you are drafting in the 7th spot, you should be looking for a superstar, not the most major league ready guy. I see this as the Braves drafting to make up for guys we traded away in the past.”
I’ll buy that.
November 2nd, 20099:59 pm
Or to use a line from ROBOCOP, “I’d buy that for a dollar.”
Steve, sounds like our tastes are pretty similar. I actually grew up in the early 50s listening to mostly classical, though not necessarily symphonies. , and the pop opf the time. got into jazz in college though I gotta admit that some of it is a bit too discordant for me
November 2nd, 200910:01 pm
His [Butler] power is about the same as Laroche
That’s not correct. Again, I feel like I have this discussion a lot with you, but you can’t boil a player’s abilities down to his baseball-reference page, especially with young players. He’s still developing his in-game power, but he’s got 80 raw power and scouts think he’ll hit 35+ homers annually, perhaps as soon as next year and certainly within the next 3.
I’m not projecting improvement based on a potential (and pipe dream) move, I’m projecting improvement based on the fact that he’s young, still developing, and what scouts think.
I feel this was his big coming out and he’ll be at this level in general.
You’re in the minority. The slim minority. Peak age is 27-29, rarely does a player flat-line at 23.
November 2nd, 200910:03 pm
I’m not a fan of that kind of jazz, nolie. It’s gotta be very smooth and melodic for my taste. Or just some good ol heavy metal, too…
Or whatever Mark Knopfler plays.
November 2nd, 200910:05 pm
Actually, pretty much anything except most pop, rap, new country and some of those really…um…really “hair” bands like Poison.
That’s pretty much exactly my opinion on music. Though I like some rap (the old school stuff strictly, though), it’s all the hip-hop I can’t stand.
November 2nd, 200910:06 pm
Or whatever Mark Knopfler plays. Steve
Yup on Mark
. course call jazz melodic is kind of a contradiction since it is harmony based music for the most part rather than melody based, but I think I know what you mean.
Looks like I turned the Falcons game on just in time.
November 2nd, 200910:07 pm
November 2nd, 200910:08 pm
Yeah PWH, most new music doesn’t float my boat. I’m sure there are a ton of really good albums coming out now, I just don’t have the time or the desire to search for them right now. But most of the new stuff hitting the charts or that is popular or whatever you call it sucks.
November 2nd, 200910:11 pm
Escobar might be able to convince Chapman to come to Atlanta..if we could trade lowe and kawakami to get the rest of the team together it could sound interesting.
November 2nd, 200910:12 pm
Does anybody like Vinnie Moore? That guy is incredible.
November 2nd, 200910:15 pm
Do they not know how to run a game clock in New Orleans? How many more times are they going to have to reset or add more time?
why would we trade two proven pitchers to be able to sign one unproven 22 year old? I think it is highly unlikely that Wren is gonna get rid of two of our starters. certainly not to spend 30 mil on a kid who would be several years in the making, if he makes it at all (he likely will at some point)
November 2nd, 200910:17 pm
Does anybody like Vinnie Moore?
Wayne in Utah
November 2nd, 200910:18 pm
If Joe Girardi’s pitching rotation backfires on him, that will add to his perceived reputation of pushing his starters too far.
Normally, I am one that would say to not baby a pitcher, but that doesn’t necessarily mean to pitch him on 3 days rest, if he doesn’t have a good reputation for success with minimal rest.
November 2nd, 200910:19 pm
Yeah, but it’s a bit more than that. The dude really knows what he’s doing.
November 2nd, 200910:22 pm
The “Love Your Look” model on the right side of the blog must be a Clemson Tiger fan!
The Blogger Formerly Known as Billy (November 2nd, 2009 5:18 pm): “Me and N8 found the blog at the same time back when N8 was Nathan and I was Billy….”
Would that be “Nathan” or “nathan”?
I guess I have gotten to the age where I like my music a bit less hectic than I used to
November 2nd, 200910:24 pm
DOB-”His stage demeanor seems uncharacteristically relaxed, with him chatting with the audience and joking with band members between songs. Much different than he is in an actual concert.”
I am curious what your experience of seeing him in concert is like. When I have seen him–admittedly quite some time ago (don’t think I’ve seen him post-’Green’), he told impromptu stories, chatted up the band, audience and stagehands.
Listening to soft rock B98 now eh?
November 2nd, 200910:25 pm
That Segura lady who’s reporting the Braves interest in the Cuban Chapman is the same reporter who wrote that SI article back in 2008 about Yunel and Brayan’s friendship.
November 2nd, 200910:26 pm
“Nolie, I’d be more inclined to believe you were a fan of Whitesnake if you could spell it correctly. (It’s not two words…. Well, it’s a couple of words that I can think of, but that’s another story.)” DOB
Hmmm. What two words?
Grammy Award? Naw. That can’t be it.
Awe Inspiring? Probably not.
My (DOB) Favorite? Highly unlikely.
I don’t know. You stumped me. On a side note I saw a male cow crapping by the rode the other day. Hey…. WAIT A MINUTE!
Ohh. You funny man DOB.
November 2nd, 200910:27 pm
N8 (November 2nd, 2009 5:58 pm) –
Nice nutshell anal ysis.
Listening to soft rock B98 now eh
sorry not familiar with B98, but no definitely not soft rock.
actually almost no music past 1996 or so, and like I said mostly Blues anymore
November 2nd, 200910:28 pm
DOB & N8
I was looking over some of the Bars, Nightclubs and music venues from when I was at UGA in the 70’s and 80’s. I was going to tell Jeffrey D about the clubs from the 20 plus years of differences in our ages, but he wouldn’t believe me.
Allen’s, 40 Watt, Foxz’, Between the Hedges and B & L Warehouse were among the “local” bars with music. Literally too many bands to mention got their starts in Athens and great music was always there.
I knew this guy, Terry Melton, and he was a pioneer in the Athens area. I saw this article about him and some on the history from the 70’s and 80’s that you might enjoy reading.
From what I know, only the 40 Watt Club is still in business.
Sorry DOB & N8, I forgot the link:
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