4:58 pm October 28, 2009, by David O'Brien
October 30th, 20094:37 pm
Wayne Been a bit dry lately.
Oh, I dunno…we had some good rain today.
October 30th, 20094:39 pm
What about if the Braves resigned LaRoche to a long term deal 4 yr deal 5th team option, he would be sure to accept. Then trade one of our Starters along with Freeman to Land the Outfielder we really need.
Just another idea….
If Schafer is in our long term plans that would mean McLouth would be the odd man out, considering we will have the new power hitter in LF with Schafer in CF and Heyward in RF. So could Schafer or McLouth or even Freeman be considered in a trade?
Wayne in Utah (WWDOBD)
Last winter, the Phillies picked up a decent left handed hitter, who went on to have a career year. And they are predominantly left handed.
Can Dunn play a serviceable first base?
DOB enjoys slapping people around. I’m calling it out, fire DOB!
P. W. Hjort
October 30th, 20094:41 pm
Call him out? Dude, how old are you? What do you want me to do, exactly, to “call him out”?
I seriously laughed out loud when I read that.
Maybe you should do what a gentleman did to Chris Reitsma (I think DOB actually wrote this originally). I can’t find the original source, but it’s an AJC article called “Reitsma Understands Upset Fans”:
A few days ago, he was walking in his Newnan neighborhood with his two daughters, ages 4 and 2, who were on their bikes.
“A guy pulls up in his truck,” Reitsma said, “rolls down his window and yells, ‘You suck!’ ”
Reitsma said he doesn’t disagree with that assessment of his performance, but hates to have his family exposed to his harshest critics.
Just sort of camp out near Chipper’s house, then when he comes outside, drive by and yell “You Suck!”. That’ll show him!
October 30th, 20094:42 pm
Ok, so maybe Wayne put it better than I could. Also if Adam comes back remember our LHH v RHP numbers will go up next season as well.
My point is that we have quite a few RHH who are doubles hitters BUT lack consistent HR pop.
That make more sense?
And yeah, it would be nice to have a LHH who hits lefties better, which is why I’m hoping BMac’s season was more an aberation and bc of his eye issues and he returns to normal form in 2010.
Yep, and it snowed here 3 of the past 4 days. Trick or Treaters are going to have to bundle up tomorrow evening! My pug Max loves to bark at the little kiddies!
October 30th, 20094:43 pm
I agree that we just need a guy that can crush both and if he is a lefty thats fine. Just the look of a RHH in the 4 hole looks appealing.
October 30th, 20094:46 pm
Now, you should have said: “Go over to Hooters, wait for him to emerge, and then drive by and yell YOU SUCK”
Now, that would be funny!
VaBraveFan – I see what you’re saying about signing a free agent. It’s possible.
That would tend to help most if we were signing an older free agent who would be most valuable in his first year. It’s best to match up your payroll based on the value they are providing the team so that you can trade people when needed. So while it would help with the free agent, we then would have no possibility of trading Lowe anymore, which you already said was your basic assumption.
It’s sound logic, I just don’t particularly like it in this situation with Lowe. He can be traded instead.
October 30th, 20094:48 pm
It’s getting late in the afternoon. Time for my nap. No baseball game tonight, but my Jazz have their home opener. So what does Mrs Wayne in Utah do?? She accepts a dinner invitation with folks that I suspect don’t watch much sports on TV!! What in tarnation was she thinking?
October 30th, 20094:50 pm
I could tell them I have Swine Flu or something!!!
I agree with your reason as well, i’m just simply bringing up ideas and situations that may come about…. its fun to discuss all the differnt possiblities.
October 30th, 20094:51 pm
I would’ve, but I’m not that funny.
Older players do deals like this all the time. If he continues his decline It would be a good move to have accepted the new deal. He is a athlete so when his deal is up he is done… (VaBF)
the kind of deal that you mentioned would have to be ratified by the players union I believe, and they aren’t gonna ok a deal that is less money. If a contract is renegotiated it has to be an overall improvement or it’s against the rules. A contract can be extended and the yearly salary can be some less-there is a limit on how much less- but the total of the contract has to be higher.
October 30th, 20094:52 pm
wayneWhy don’t we just say the Braves need a good cleanup hitter, who can mash righties and lefties with equal amounts of thunder.
well, that kinda is what i said. ive posted several times that the braves just need to get the best hitter they can get, whatever side of the plate he stands on. oh, i also dont think the guy we get has to bat cleanup (though it would be nice). but thats just me.
October 30th, 20094:53 pm
Wayne it snowed here 3 of the past 4 days.
Wow…ha, no snow for us yet!
My pug Max loves to bark at the little kiddies!
That’s great…Petey “bweeps” when he sees anybody come to the door. He’s such a Bird.
October 30th, 20094:54 pm
Vazquez will be traded and here’s why.
Hudson, a better pitcher (2009 notwithstanding), is reportedly agreeing to a $9M average annual salary for three years. Will Vazquez, now making $11.5M, take less than $9M after his steller season? No. Should Frank offer Vazquez MORE than Hudson’s making? No.
There you have it. Hate to see Javy go, but he’s going now. Unless he loves the Braves SOOOOO MUCH that he’ll take a 20 percent pay cut to stay. Not likely.
October 30th, 20094:57 pm
Yeah, unless we land say Cruz from texas , i think the guy we add wont be batting cleanup either. There isnt alot of options to fill the power need without giving up to much.
Did you see my new idea about Locking up LaRoche for 4 years and then trading a Pitcher along with Freeman to get a The Real deal for LF and the 4 hole?
Also Schafer and McLouth one of them would have to be traded soon too. Unless the Guy we add isnt gonna be here longer than 2 seasons.
Alot of options.
October 30th, 20095:00 pm
Jeff R: No problem. Didn’t mean to dismiss your suggestion, which was why I deleted my comment right after I wrote it.
ugaaccountant: Right you are about the dangers of big deferred payments. It about ruined the Diamondbacks when they were in financial trouble and had all the deferred payments to Randy Johnson and others.
October 30th, 20095:01 pm
In theory that was also my reasoning for a RHH LF simply because I just never saw the possibility of having Schafer, McLouth, and Heyward in the OF together all being LH
October 30th, 20095:02 pm
(according to FanGraphs.com), (Shaun)
oh stuff fangraphs.com
October 30th, 20095:04 pm
I could see Javy signing a extension for around 10-13 million a year.
Javy just didnt go threw tommy john like Huddy, Javy is durable and we know what were gonna get even if he isnt super stellar. Still gonna pitch 200+ innings and be near top of league in k’s also He likes Atlanta alot and mentoring JJ
that news just ruined my day. I am not a big DeMacio fan anyway
nolie, I meant to ask you what you thought of DeMacio. I know most all drafts are important, but I happen to think next years is really, really crucial. I’d get into why, but I don’t want to be called Furman instead of Efrim……haha.
October 30th, 20095:06 pm
P Town Brave
Me either, might be wise to get Schafer’s value back up and then deal him, or involve him in a trade this offseason to help bring in the big bat
October 30th, 20095:07 pm
I think Justice had a generally underrated career I suspect because he didn’t have a high batting average and we forget how much power he had because he had up and down seasons in the homerun department. Shaun
I suspect he had an overrated career. Look at his leverage numbers , and his 2-out RISP and late/close numbers.
October 30th, 20095:08 pm
I hope you are wrong, wrong, wrong……………
When both statheads (Law) and scoutheads (Baseball America) seem puzzled by a move, it naturally seems puzzling to the fanbase as well. BA/John Manuel seems to think it was because DeMacio wanted to get ‘his guys’ in there and was not a move based on performance. They also note that two other area scouts were fired, Dan Cox and Blaine Clemmens.
October 30th, 20095:11 pm
Sorry, my mistake I forgot Justice had 40 homers.I am calling steroids though.
October 30th, 20095:15 pm
Efrim – I was pleasantly surprised by the initial quality production of this year’s draft picks.
Minor – while he wasn’t rated as high has in fact performed. Then after that it gets better.
Hale I think was next and was fine.
Crim went 10-0 or something.
Spanjer-furstenburg at 1b had a monster season, fueled by a strong start.
Mycal Jones at SS numbers look good for SS.
Harlichak in the OF had good numbers.
That’s probably a pretty good success rate, especially for skipping the 2nd round. Some of these will fall back, and some others should surge forward but that should net a decent # of prospects.
avocado, me too. But I just don’t see Javy getting bigger bucks than Huddy on the basis of one terrific season.
October 30th, 20095:18 pm
nolie, you think justice was overrated? seems like he had a pretty good career, 305 homers, over 1000 RBIs, .279 BA, .878 OPS, and i dont see anybody saying he is hall of fame bound or anything.
October 30th, 20095:19 pm
DOB change jobs?
Sorry, my mistake I forgot Justice had 40 homers.I am calling steroids though. (Uga Acc)
well he was on the”list”
oh, Cot’s is very reliable,not saying it’s perfect always, but I haven’t found a mistake yet on what I’ve researched
October 30th, 20095:25 pm
I can see Javy V signing a reasonable extension to stay with the Braves as opposed to going free agent.. His comfort level and success seem to be at the highest level since he came on the scene with the Expos. As a “millionaire athlete,” his career reputation could easily be worth more than a few extra million to him. Making a strong run to the post season for a few years as part of a strong pitching staff could make him a HOF starter before he’s done. It did wonders for three guys I seem to remember playing in Braves uniforms, and it seems more than just possible with this nucleus of good-to-great young pitching.
Hey, leave Justice alone! It’s not his fault he always got more attention than a player who put up better number throught his career. He was on a playoff team throught his entire career, so naturally he got more attention. I’d love to have an outspoken leader who gave a damn like DJ than a quiet, arrogant guy who was about his own numbers & paycheck.
October 30th, 20095:26 pm
nolie, you think justice was overrated? seems like he had a pretty good career, 305 homers, over 1000 RBIs, .279 BA, .878 OPS, and i dont see anybody saying he is hall of fame bound or anything. (DAP)
yeah especially his ‘history’ as a constant clutch hitter, doesn’t mean I think he was terrible though
October 30th, 20095:30 pm
Those caps the players are wearing, with the World Series patch on the side? They’re selling those at Modell’s Sporting Goods for — get this — $35.99!!
Hey, leave Justice alone! It’s not his fault he always got more attention than a player who put up better number throught his career. He was on a playoff team throught his entire career, so naturally he got more attention. I’d love to have an outspoken leader who gave a damn like DJ than a quiet, arrogant guy who was about his own numbers & paycheck. (TnB)
he rivaled Palmiero as one of the most disliked, conceited guys in baseball. He was a jerk with a history of steroid use and domestic abuse. I guess that qualifies him as a hero in Tennessee though.
October 30th, 20095:32 pm
thats crazy lol, one thing i cant stand is how much clothing and hats and all that stuff cost.
I got 4 different braves caps for a total of 45 bucks or so after tax lol
October 30th, 20095:35 pm
The question to me about the offseason is just how serious are the Braves on sending Bobby Cox and Chipper (in a few years) into retirement with a championship calibur team. If, they are really serious I think this is the kind of moves it would take to overcome the Phillies.
1. Trade Derek Lowe for prospects for a good cheap position backup or bullpen pitcher.
2. With the money saved, sign Bay or Holiday.
3. Find a way to trade for Adrian Gonzalez. (A positive here Freddie Freeman wouldn’t have to be included because Kyle Blanks is their future 1st basemen which would cover us in a few years if we can’t resign Gonzalez). I think San Diego would want middle infield, catching, and starting pitching. A package of Teheran, Hicks, C.Betancourt, R. Delgado, Cody Johnson and Kelly Johnson might get it done with a possible tweak or two.
Our starting 5 of Hudson, Vazquez, Jurrjens, Hanson and KK is WS ready.
Our starting lineup of McLouth, Prado, Chipper, Gonzalez, Bay/Holiday, McCann, Escobar and Eventually Heyward is a lineup to finally match the Phillies.
Bench of Diaz, Ross, Infante, Schafer or Matt Young(speed, defense, OBP) and a utility guy
Bullpen: Gonzalez, Moylan, Kiko Calero, B. Donnelly, Medlen, O’flaherty and Kimbrell
It works out to a $95 Million dollar budget after the additions of Gonzalez $4.75 mill, Bay/Holiday $16 mill, Calero $2.5 mill and Donnelly $3 mill
Anyone thinking seriously of calling Chipper out might want to read the Chop Talk Interview Patty Rasmussen does with him this month. He addresses every possible issue you might have with him.
October 30th, 20095:36 pm
Yeah, its a hard system to figure really ya know, whether to keep players or trade them and when because you can trade a player when his value is high and hope thats his ceiling, but he could get much better, while you can also trade a player when his value is low and receive little in return only to have him reach his original potential with another club.
Its just hit and miss really. Like look at the Teixeira trade for example. We achieved a plus so far on dealing Salty and Harrison, while a minus on Andrus and Feliz.
Sometimes you just never know.
That sounds great now, but how bad would it suck in 2025 when we’re paying a guy for what he did 15 years before?
That’s why I don’t like backloading contracts.
That’s not what I would call a backloaded contract. I would call it a deferred contract.
A backloaded contract is like the one Ryan Braun has. 8 years and $45 million with salaries escalating from $1million in 10 to $12 million in 15.
Current overrated players in the game to me: A.Soriano/ Tex/ Wright/ Holliday/ Zambrano/ Beltran. I think Manny & Ortiz should be fading away here soon(hopefully) because they’ve cracked down on the steroid thing so much.
October 30th, 20095:39 pm
cc rider-You might want to re-consider trading Julio Teheran. He’s really young (about 18) and may well have more natural talent than any Braves’ pitching prospect you’ve seen-even Hanson. Maybe he won’t reach his potential, but we need to keep him a couple of more years to find out. Trading him may be as shortsighted as trading Neftali Feliz was.
October 30th, 20095:40 pm
P-Town which is why I’m hoping BMac’s season was more an aberation and bc of his eye issues and he returns to normal form in 2010.
I’m pretty sure it was.
And I’m hoping it was for more reasons than that one.
nolie, you damn right it does & I have 64 Justice baseball cards to prove it. I’ve never read anything on Justice beating his wife or being conceited, but maybe some thought that, I don’t know. I just remember watching him & Gant when I was a little kid when they were on the Sumter Braves together. Then on up to almost every one of his at bats with Atlanta.
October 30th, 20095:41 pm
I like your ideas, but the Gonzalez one never happens.
Other that that, I like Matt Young on the team as no one has mentioned him AND every bullpen addition you made seems like a good fit in Atlanta
October 30th, 20095:42 pm
McFann-I don’t think that Prismacolor makes Navy blue in their colored pencils. Try Indigo Blue or Violet blue (might be blue violet, I don’t remember offhand). They should handle anything you would use the Navy Blue for.
October 30th, 20095:44 pm
I gotta ask. How come I haven’t received any of your portraits for my office?
And here I thought we were close.
Thats alot man…. AGonzalez would require Hanson or Heyward plus more.
The Braves wont pay 15-20 million a year for a position player…. it wouldnt matter if we did cause the Yankees dont care about how much its gonna cost to bring in the best players out there.
Only reason we overpaid for Lowe was cause we pretty much had to, to keep him away from the Mets, and then we would have signed Oliver Perez which would have been a huge mistake….
We offered a good deal to Burnett of 4 years 60 million with a option i believe and the yanks easily went over our heads with a 5 year 80 million deal…. there is just no competing with them.
But i cant see us bringing in AGon and Bay/Holliday hell i cant even see us bring in one of them… lol
October 30th, 20095:49 pm
PTown- Dude, I offered them on the blog for free and mentioned it several times. Did you email me and ask when I offered?
October 30th, 20095:50 pm
What do you think we should do considering the possible overload in the Outfield
Cody Johnson has good power potential right but he is what 2-3 more years from the majors?
Cause if we plan on getting a new power bat this offseason Useing Schafer at a trade piece might be best?
Or if LaRoche is gonna be long term answer at 1b , we can trade Freeman instead… idk lol
October 30th, 20095:56 pm
***I forgot to add that i think Diaz will be here in Atlanta for long time as a 4th outfielder and a guy that starts vs tough lefties. Also his Pinch hitting numbers are very impressive.
October 30th, 20096:07 pm
Lew; I wouldn’t be in favor of moving Teheren either, but just trying to consider a need to include a “Untouchable prospect”. I guess with Hanson, Jurrjens, Medlen and Minor, Plus many highly thought of pitching prospects in the low minors it just made sense if the Brave’s wanted to go all out in 2010 -2012 while Chipper and Bobby Cox is still here. I agree Teheren would be a steep price!
October 30th, 20096:12 pm
nolie – I still have love for Dave Justice, always will
October 30th, 20096:15 pm
I dont think Wren will trade KK. He would not bring us much in return, and it does not do much for our payroll (plus the whole Asian connection thing).
I think Wren will try to trade Lowe first. If successful, then Wren will offer Vazquez an extension. However, if he is unable to trade Lowe, then he will trade Vazquez.
October 30th, 20096:20 pm
VaBraveFan: I disagree with the idea that Hanson or Heyward would have to be included. San Diego doesn’t have Towers as a GM anymore. He was unreasonable in his demands. The Braves would be sending an elite pitching prospect, an elite catching prospect, a highly thought pitching prospect with a big potential upside, a middle infielder with gold glove defense potential and possible power potential and finally a minor league player that although he needs refinement has more power potential than anybody in the minors. Kelly Johnson also has value, is still cheap for a starter and fills a need.
The Padres will shop Gonzalez and they know that contending teams are not going to trade players that just create another hole(Hanson and Heyward). The Texiera trade is an example.
One last note, Wren is running the Braves now and nobody thought he would sign Derek Lowe last year. I believe Wren would sign Bay (Most Likely) or Holiday, particularly if he thinks it is the final piece!
October 30th, 20096:25 pm
P-town Brave, I don’t know if the Braves will be able to swing that trade, but if you have read Kevin Towers comments ( He says the Padres will trade Gonzalez), I feel sure someone will trade for him. The Braves and Boston will probably be first in line to discuss it. Boston has a lot of good prospects, but not as many as last year due to the trades for Victor Martinez and others. I think the Braves have a shot at Gonzalez depending on how far Frank Wren wants to go.
October 30th, 20096:30 pm
Rammerjammer — Not quite getting your logic there. I doubt whether the Braves extend Javy’s contract has much to do with Hudson. They clearly want and are going to have dominant pitching. Seems to me that it has a lot more to do with whether FW gets serious trade interest for Lowe and/or KK (which I think he will ’cause starting pitching is in short supply for many clubs).
Braves are in the catbird seat when it comes to starters. It will cost more to extend Javy than Hudson because Hudson is coming off Tommy John and Javy is coming off a superb season and is a very consistent innings eater who gets his share of wins and a ton of Ks. He should command at least a couple more $M per season than Hudson and I hope the Braves can and will pay it.
October 30th, 20096:31 pm
No problem, DOB…
October 30th, 20096:40 pm
OK Braves fans here’s an interesting trade idea would you pull the trigger on this?
Derek Lowe – RHP
Nate McLouth – CF
Torii Hunter – CF
Jose Arredondo – RP
Freddy Sandoval – 3B
Trading JJ would be completely idiotic.
October 30th, 20096:45 pm
I would do that trade. But I see no reason why the Angels would trade a gold glove outfielder, run producer and base stealer, and he might be one of the leaders on that team. And I definitely dont think they would trade him for Lowe.
October 30th, 20096:50 pm
You also described Nate McLouth minus the GG defense although he won a GG. But Hunter makes 18 mil for the next 3 season so actually Lowe(15 mil)/McLouth(4.5 mil) contract would almost equal Hunter’s(18 mil) so the deal is almost even money wise.
October 30th, 20096:52 pm
Also your are acting like Lowe was absolutely horrible in which he wasn’t and he and Hunter are almost the same age so you can’t throw that out there either.
October 30th, 20096:57 pm
Thanks, Lew! Turned out Copenhagen Blue worked out fine. Think Navy Blue might have been a little too dark…
Kinda funny, though…the American Naval Seal being colored with something other than Navy Blue…didn’t quite feel right.
October 30th, 20097:27 pm
DOB, thanks for the fielding bible link…interesting stuff. Nice to see Esco getting some recognition; I can’t imagine where he would be ranked if his defense the first half had been where it was the second half. Looking forward to seeing him improve on those numbers some more next season
October 30th, 20097:38 pm
is anyone dressing as a member of the atlanta braves tomorrow on halloween? how about bobby cox??? c.j?? dave o’brien?
October 30th, 20097:40 pm
Random, I just caught your post from a couple pages back. I’d be happy to put together a Jurrjens wager. As for any previous wagers… It’s entirely possible, but I have no memory of any wager.
Steve from OH
October 30th, 20097:43 pm
But I don’t have a leather jacket…
October 30th, 20097:44 pm
Efrim–I completely agree that next year’s draft is immensely important. Can’t say I’m thrilled at all with Battista’s firing but I figure he must have done something he shouldn’t have been doing because his firing seems unwarranted. But whatever. I’m willing to give DiMacio the benefit of the doubt for now.
October 30th, 20097:47 pm
Am I to understand that the Fielding Bible Awards are a compilation of votes from baseball experts as to who they feel are the best defensive players at each position?
If that is true, then there are some interesting names of folks who got a few votes here or there…..Carlos Lee was one that jumped off the page for LF’ers.
October 30th, 20097:50 pm
I have a cool leather jacket. I can wear that and try to do that “grin” from his web photo. That would work, huh!
Somebody could go as me. You just have to be a ruggedly handsome, older gray haired gentleman.
October 30th, 20097:55 pm
What are you guys supposed to be?
“I’m a lion!”
“I’m Mike Tyson!”
“I’m Harry Potter!”
“I’m David O’Brien. This is my friend dressed as Wayne in Utah.”
I think it’s safe to assume who the hit of that party will be.
October 30th, 20097:57 pm
but I figure he must have done something he shouldn’t have been doing because his firing seems unwarranted. B (STEVE)
I don’t think that is necessarily true. Wren is now established with a good year under his belt, he is making the job his own with men he is used to and whom he trusts. Happens all the time when management changes.Add to that the fact that our system is lighter than it usually is and he has an excuse to import the people he wants.
It’s hard to judge the Oriole guys. In general they have not produced well, but nobody outside the organization can really know if that was their problem or the meddling of the owner. Maybe we are gonna find out over the next few years?
October 30th, 20098:00 pm
October 30th, 20098:28 pm
Noticed in reading through last nights blog, you mentioned your IPOD and your new computer.
I take it you have a new PC.
If so, if you have a newer IPOD then just sync it to your PC (with USB patch) and it will automatically find your new device, download ITUNES and start up a new connection for your IPOD. With an auto connect to the ITUNES store for downloading new songs, vidoes, etc.
If you already know all of this, then just thought I’d pass on the info to you.
Candy Corn…one more reason why I hate Halloween
October 30th, 20098:32 pm
Candy Corn…one more reason why I hate Halloween (CBF)
OMG… I LUV!!! Candy Corn.. yum yum. My favorite vegetable
October 30th, 20098:33 pm
Never realized CAB was such a Scrooge.
October 30th, 20098:40 pm
I LOVE candy corn- that’s the problem…I can’t stop eating it
It’s just really hard to hand out candy to small children while simultaneously holding back a barking, snarling dog
October 30th, 20098:44 pm
candy corn plus peanuts = payday. try it!
October 30th, 20098:53 pm
At least you don’t like Whoppers…
October 30th, 20098:56 pm
not sure how anyone can like Whoppers
October 30th, 20098:58 pm
cabravesfan I LOVE candy corn- that’s the problem…I can’t stop eating it
Ain’t it the truth!
Wayne, you asked about the voting for Fielding Bible Awards.
Here’s the release, which explains it pretty well:
THE 2009 FIELDING BIBLE AWARDS
Skokie, IL, October 30—THE 2009 FIELDING BIBLE AWARDS have been officially announced after one of the closest races in the history of the award centered around the keystone sack. Second basemen Aaron Hill, Dustin Pedroia and Chase Utley finished with 76, 76 and 73 points respectively, forcing a tie-breaking procedure that awarded Hill his second Fielding Bible Award.
One important distinction that differentiates THE FIELDING BIBLE AWARDS from most other baseball awards, such as the Gold Gloves, is that there is only one winner at each position, instead of separate winners for each league. This distinction came into play this year as Jack Wilson, who split his time between Pittsburgh in the National League and Seattle in the American League, won the Fielding Bible Award at shortstop. “It is almost impossible for a player who is traded between leagues to win a Gold Glove,” said John Dewan, author of the new Fielding Bible—Volume II. “I predict that Wilson will not win a Gold Glove in either the National or the American League this year, even though our 10 voters thought he was the best-fielding shorstop in Major League Baseball.”
Joining Hill as repeat winners are Albert Pujols (four wins in the four years of the award), Carl Crawford (his third), Yadier Molina (his third), Ichiro Suzuki (two) and Franklin Gutierrez (his second, this one for center field after claiming last year’s right field award). First-time winners are Mark Buehrle, Jack Wilson and Ryan Zimmerman.
A panel of ten analysts, listed below—including John Dewan, Peter Gammons, Bill James and Joe Posnanski—examined the 2009 seasons of every defensive player in Major League Baseball and then used the same voting technique as the Major League Baseball MVP voting. First place votes received 10 points, second place 9 points, third place 8 points, etc. A perfect score was 100.
Here are the results of THE 2009 FIELDING BIBLE AWARDS. A complete record of the voting can be found in The Bill James Handbook 2010.
October 30th, 20099:04 pm
If you click on the original link I posted, then click the voting up there where they have the handful of sub-heading or whatever, you’ll notice that in the voting for shortstops, Bill James gave Yunel the highest ranking he received — third, behind only Jack Wilson and Tulowitzki.
October 30th, 20099:05 pm
Here’s that original link again:
October 30th, 20099:13 pm
My favorite was Butterfinger BBs, but ya know, they don’t make those anymore.
LOVE me some Nerds, though…and Butterfinger bars.
October 30th, 20099:15 pm
Oops–after further review, they still missed the S Fla touchdown.
(Hey, if you’re gonna get it wrong anyway, just let the officials on the field call the game.)
October 30th, 20099:23 pm
You are a girl after my own heart (although reese’s anything are my absolute favorite)
October 30th, 20099:24 pm
WHAT??? Loaf didn’t get no LF votes? Bah, they need a new and better panel.
October 30th, 20099:34 pm
NOTHING is better than a Reece’s Peanut Butter Cup Blizzard.
October 30th, 20099:39 pm
Hey. McCann was 17th. That’s pretty good, huh?
October 30th, 20099:58 pm
Thanks. Butterfinger RULES! Really miss those BBs.
Reese’s rock the house, too…Reese’s Pieces especially.
Nolie Hey. McCann was 17th.
October 30th, 200910:01 pm
Oh, I see…well, yeah, guess he’s not gonna get tons of votes for that. Now if they based it more on handling pitchers, he coulda made it higher on the list…
But hey, his RFs improved a lot this year…gotta give him something for that.
October 30th, 200910:13 pm
keylargo NOTHING is better than a Reece’s Peanut Butter Cup Blizzard.
‘Sept a Nerd Blizzard.
October 30th, 200910:22 pm
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