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rammerjammer
October 22nd, 2009
1:21 pm
dap01,
Cox adjusts his strategy to fit his personnel. In 2000, his Braves were second in the league in stolen bases, with six players exceeding ten swipes (in other words, it wasn’t all one guy). Bobby didn’t suddenly forget how to run. He just doesn’t have the horses, McLouth excepted.
O'Brien
October 22nd, 2009
1:23 pm
This may be way off course, but bear with me.
In basketball, a team is able to do sign and trade deals. Could the Braves sign Hudson with the intention that he will be traded for our RH bat (assuming Hudson knew up front what was going on, and the other team was involved as well)?
bvillebaron
October 22nd, 2009
1:23 pm
Boy, I sure hope you are right about the Braves sitting down and working on a new contract with Tim Hudson. IMHO, they MUST re-sign him.
Rob from SC
October 22nd, 2009
1:31 pm
My feelings about LaRoche is indifferent. He really struggles in the first half of the season.
Blaze Of Gory
October 22nd, 2009
1:32 pm
Two points made on the blog that interested me most. First is the offensive options the Braves may be considering and second, the Bobby Cox, “Prado could play right field,” comment.
I’m not going to be as optimistic as to what the Braves chances are in 2010 unless they break spring training after adding offensive weapons. If they keep LaRoche, they STILL have to add another bat to be considered a bigger threat than they were in 2009. The bottom line is that team was still at least one bat away last year. Now if they let LaRoche walk, they are the big bat away PLUS the bat they lose because LaRoche is gone.
I think most Braves fans of the last few years are tired of the philosophy exercised by management over the last few years of…. “well if everything falls into place…IF this one produces…..IF that one produces….” The Braves need to break camp with PROVEN upgrades in some areas, NOT “if someone produces, finger crossing, click your heels together, hope everything works out,”….improvements. In my mind, Heyward is wishful thinking and is not an acceptable alternative to a proven bat. If Heyward makes the team and has a world class year, then that is gravy! But the Braves don’t need to break camp telling the world that they are going to be OK after not getting the proven big stick.
On a similar note, we’ve all heard the last few years that the Braves leave spring training prepared to make deals before the trade deadline if they need to. Well that philosophy is kind of hogwash. The Braves played well at, and after the deadline this year. They dug themselves a hole with their play in the first half that they couldn’t dig themselves out of. YES….. you can lose it in the first half which is exactly what the team did. Screw trade deadline deals! Go “all in” over the winter and have your strongest team in April! I don’t want to hear they have 5-7 mil flexibility at the deadline. Spend the 5-7 mil before April! Get the best talent you can get from day one!
Now, on to Bobby. I think any way you slice it, Bobby’s comment about Prado in right and not giving up on Kelly just display why it’s time Bobby leaves. I don’t believe it’s Bobby just supporting Kelly on the surface to build him up…. I believe it’s Bobby’s man love getting in the way of him making a good managerial decision. I think he really loves KJ and it blinds his decision making. I believe he loved Frenchy the same way….until the winter before he was finally traded. I think the Jarimillo deal might have rubbed Bobby wrong.
I hear it said over and over that a manager does little to influence the outcome of a game. I can tell you this…. if a manager has a guy in the lineup who sucks over someone on the bench who is better….. it can influence the outcome of the game. If he’s starting a couple of guys who suck over better options on the bench, it’s twice as hard to win. If he’s too stubborn or too old or just too dumb to recognize that, then it’s time for him to go. I’m glad Bobby is outta here after this year.
P. W. Hjort
October 22nd, 2009
1:33 pm
O’Brien,
If you’re asking a theoretical question, yes. That is allowed. Practically, no. First of all, Hudson will be a 10-and-5 in January so he can’t be traded without his permission. Probably more importantly, that rarely, if ever, happens.
dap01
October 22nd, 2009
1:33 pm
rammerjammer: I am not disputing that, I do remember the drop offs of Grissom and Lofton when they were with the Braves. I have formed that opinion while watching the Braves for 25 years.
Fleming
October 22nd, 2009
1:33 pm
nolie
Is your last post some king of new shorthand
bruce
October 22nd, 2009
1:36 pm
Dave —
thanks for the thoughts on release timing and Barbaro… I see where he might be pinch hitter/backup 1B? or better off in AL where he could primarily PH and backup 1B? (the trade value)
I also want to buzz in on the kudos for you for a great season… I got very discouraged three times when i thought we were out of it, but stayed faithful… your work, extra hours, insights and humor really made a difference for me (again). I am looking forward to your opinions from the Arizona Fall League and the upcoming roster fills and tune-up moves.
McFann — yes howdy, doing well… getting down to the final lap on election season here in Virginia, my man Ken Cuccinelli is leading in the polls for Attorney General, I was actually in one of his tv commercials that was aired all over the state in the last couple of weeks… I’m on Ken’s left at the table at seconds 10 and 11 on this link , you will have to pause it to see me it goes by so fast…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gvgm2t8gik it was fun filming it… got yelled at by the director several times because Ken was being funny and I would smile or laugh and they had to start over.
Jeff —
thanks! I appreciate your thoughts, they are more balanced about Philly than I would probably be… they heartily boo their own players in one inning and go crazy cheering two innings later… my wife is a bit scared of them, especially when she could hear me taking grief via cell phone while walking around the park before the game in Braves T or jacket.
I hope the team that wins the Yanks-Phils series wins it on the road so that thee home team fans at the park can absorb the loss and the winning team fans can not experience the win in person (does that make me mean?…. sounds like it but I hope it is more about how I feel about the two teams fans than the teams themselves) Never had that wish before.
Lew
October 22nd, 2009
1:37 pm
O’Brien-I can’t see Hudson going for a deal like that when he could get much more from some other team on the Free Agent market. If it were done vaguely like that, it would smack of what the Red Sox did to Bronson Arroyo-and that really sucked.
Better to just let Hudson walk, test the FA market and pocket the bucks he would have been paid to sign the bat they need. Be much easier, too.
CB
October 22nd, 2009
1:38 pm
Is dap01 a smaller version of DAP?
P-Town Brave
October 22nd, 2009
1:40 pm
Blaze of Gory-
Amen! I couldn’t have said it better myself!
I agree in that, wouldn’t it be nice for a change to have a cushion come the All-Star break or at least be a major threat to ruining this so called Philly dynasty?
If the answer is yes then the powers that be need to go out with the intention and delivery of a Matt Holliday, Jason Bay, or the like.
And please, make the next month get here fast so we can rid ourselves of all the Kelly Johnson talk.
I listened to a podcast yesterday that made perfect sense in that the guys compared Bobby to an alcoholic, bascially stating that Frank Wren needs to remove all the liquor (Norton, Johnson, Acosta, etc.) from the cabinet otherwise Bobby will time and time again go right back to it.
Its Bobby’s final season (thank God) and Frank should be assembling something for himself and a manager he wants to build around for the future, not the narrow minded no speed, non-athletic Cox managing style.
Lew
October 22nd, 2009
1:41 pm
Rob-Not too sure LRoche is as bad in the first half as you and others seem to think. I went back and checked his stats throughout his career (minus his rookie season) and he came out at .252, with 14 HR and 54 RBI for the first half season average.
Now no one would be wise to argue that is excellent or anything, but had the Braves had that type of 1st half production from Kotchman last year, we might actually havegiven the Phillies a serious run for the division and definitely would have come in second, as opposed to third in the division.
ncscoots
October 22nd, 2009
1:44 pm
not the narrow minded no speed, non-athletic Cox managing style.
As opposed to a slack-minded, no-brain, non-intelligent blogging style.
Not you, of course, but, some folks.
DAP
October 22nd, 2009
1:45 pm
nolieBranyan has a career 331 OBP. That is not goosecially not good enough to make up for all the Ks.
his career numbers over all are really not that great. he really hasnt had very many full season, anyways. i was just talking about this past year. but, i will say that is you can slug over .500, then a OBP in the .330s is fine, even if you K 150 times. that simply opinion on my part.
Daslied
October 22nd, 2009
1:53 pm
Lew – agreed on LaRoche. He’s average in the first half, but it looks worse because he’s ridiculous in the 2nd half. To me, the split is not a dealbreaker.
Fleming
October 22nd, 2009
1:53 pm
Lew
LaRoche first half last season .250 .336 .447
Kotchman first half last season .274 .346 .395
How many wins do you think the difference translate too considering how far the Braves were behind Phillies at end of season
O'Brien
October 22nd, 2009
1:55 pm
Thanks for the response guys.
As DOB mentioned some blogs ago, Hudson might be the domino that gets everything going after all. If the Hudson deal happens first, then that would suggest that the Braves believe they can trade Lowe for a big bat (unless they trade KK and another piece or 2). If Hudson signs with another team, then the Braves would spend that money to sign a FA Left Fielder.
Frank Wren did a good job addressing our starting pitchers last year (even if he might have given Lowe one year too long on his deal). I hope Wren can come through again this offseason, because the Phillies are loaded, and they will be the team to beat again next year.
Their #8 guy (Ruiz) has about 8 RBI in the playoffs. Maybe thats what Bobby has in mind when he bats LaRoche 7th or 8th. (Although the Phills have Utley/Howard/Werth/Ilbanez to rely on at the top of the order).
nolie
October 22nd, 2009
1:56 pm
was your last post some king of new shorthand (Fleming)
i was using a lap top that now has keyboard issues. shoulda proofread it b4 posting but usually too lazy
Chris from the Rock
October 22nd, 2009
1:58 pm
DOB and others, if they Braves officially put Lowe on the market, would any teams have serious interest in him and the 3 yrs/$45M left on his contract? And could the Braves actually get anything of major value in return? The Mets might have interest, but Wren wouldn’t make another trade with their division rivals, right? We all know Lowe doesn’t want to go back to the West Coast, so I doubt Wren would trade him to the Angels or Mariners. Might the Yankees have interest? They have some payroll coming of the books this year with Damon and others. And I don’t think they trust Wang. Comments?
CB
October 22nd, 2009
1:59 pm
Lew, you know I am for signing LaRoche because I am afraid we might end up with the kind of lineup that we started last season with. We have some great starting pitching, but currently setup we are not a good hitting team and we really,really need an infusion of power somewhere on this team. If we are hoping for Heyward to be that power hitter at 20 years old, we really are dreaming. I think our best hope is a blockbuster trade bringing somebody in that will balance this lineup and give us a team that can matchup with the Phillies talent wise.
RHR
October 22nd, 2009
2:17 pm
Scathing, scoots, absolutely scathing. The blood splattered on me all the way down here.
Supes
October 22nd, 2009
2:21 pm
Matt Diaz was live (in studio) at ESPN First Take this morning. He did the opening segment Q/A about the playoffs with Dana J. (handled that well) and later during 4th down…they had him sit on the Bobby Bowden (debate) since Matt is a former FSU alum (granted, he didn’t play football but was relevant to the topic). He held his own against Skip Bayless. Matt was also a “sharped dress man” with the suit and tie.
Overall, represented the Braves in good light (better than that joker A. J. Pierzinski(sp) with the fake blonde hair from the White Sox).
Matt Diaz is one guy the Braves need to hold on to for the 4th OF spot, pinch hitting and overall bench play.
ncscoots
October 22nd, 2009
2:21 pm
By the way, RHR, in no way did I have you in mind when I spoke the other day of old dudettes ruling. Surely had in mind someone else entirely.
nolie
October 22nd, 2009
2:34 pm
Scathing, scoots, absolutely scathing. The blood splattered on me all the way down here. (RHR)
you two are sooo mean. I’m glad I’m not like that, but am sweeeet and luvable
McFann Ô
October 22nd, 2009
2:42 pm
Bruce–
Good to read that you’re doing well and that your man is leading in the polls! I’ll try out that link–thanks for posting it!
got yelled at by the director several times because Ken was being funny and I would smile or laugh and they had to start over.
Haha! Sounds like fun!
Richard Nieh
October 22nd, 2009
2:46 pm
There are two direction the Braves can go in this offseason. One is that resign Anderson and LaRoche and somehow keep one of the FA reliever. Keep the same team as 2009 and probably get a few second tire relivers through trade by giving up one of the starter. It is very unlikely they can trade for top tire reliever to big bat through trade and the trade may hurt the farm which is not that thick after Hanson and Heyward come up.
Another way is that dumping Hudson (or Lowe if possible), do not resign anyone and figurefilling those holes out later. Do whatever it takes to sign Jason Bay or Matt Holiday. The middle of line up will be not affected anyway much anyway. It does not that hurt using Freeman or Heyward hitting 8th even if they don’t perform. (I think they will be great.) Or they can use Johnson play second and Prado play first and firgure things out later.
Either way, I don’t see the Braves play worse than 2009, which I though they had fine season. I don’t believe they will lose season series to Pirates, Padres or Reds again and their interleague opponents is so much easier next season. I think it is pretty easy to improve 10 wins and they will do it no matter what.
McFann Ô
October 22nd, 2009
2:47 pm
Bruce–
Nice commercial!
Good luck with everything up there!
David O'Brien
October 22nd, 2009
2:47 pm
Quick, what’s the name of the Cuban joint that a couple of people here have recommended, the one behind the Shrine on Ponce?
David O'Brien
October 22nd, 2009
2:49 pm
Rammerjammer: You’re reading something into my comments that I didn’t say or imply. I never said anything about Frank penciling in Freeman for 2011. He’s never said that. I (and others) have speculated he’ll be ready within two years, nothing more. Wren hasn’t indicated what they’re going to do next year at 1B.
David O'Brien
October 22nd, 2009
2:53 pm
Nevermind, it’s Las Palmeras. Just found it.
Daslied
October 22nd, 2009
2:56 pm
The KC beat writer, Sam Mellinger, is suggesting that the Royals trade Joakim Soria. Too bad we already dumped Frenchy.
That was a joke.
Chris Farley
October 22nd, 2009
2:56 pm
Is it Las Palmeras? Cause I was gonna say Las Palmeras.
Daybed Wagmoe
October 22nd, 2009
2:56 pm
Enter your comments here
DAP
October 22nd, 2009
2:58 pm
daslied, so are they not going to trade soria? because that would be great…
monty
October 22nd, 2009
3:03 pm
In regards to Lowe “easily fixing” his slider/sinker, if it was so “easy to fix” why didn’t he correct it midstream? I’m an avid golfer and golfers are always “working” on their swings. The problem is that once you mature honing a certain swing, you don’t “easily” change it, even if you know what to do or not do to correct certain problems. Even the most minor changes involve alot of time and dedication. We got that reliever Kolb a few years ago and the talk was his “outstanding sinker”, well, I kept watching for it but I swear I couldn’t see what all the fuss was about. If he ever did have a great sinker he lost it before he got to the Braves(hence his ineffectiveness) and couldn’t regain it because his most effective pitch was his slider. Not saying Lowe can’t regain it, just can’t assume that he will or that it’s “easily fixable”.
Huddy's Ligament
October 22nd, 2009
3:05 pm
Gotta get some guys who can hit the longball consistently – Booby cannot when without it.
So go get it, Frankie.
nolie
October 22nd, 2009
3:09 pm
Soria. where did that come from? given up on by 2 orgs. not great minor league numbers, and now a MLB stud. One never knows, do one?
monty
October 22nd, 2009
3:09 pm
Yeh, lets make Diaz the “4th OF” since he had the highest OPS. on the Braves the 2nd half of the season,a high OBP and batted over .300. “Good job Matt we ‘ve got a bench role for you! You earned it kid!”. “We’ll even let you pinch hit dude. One day you might play well enough to start!” LOL!
rammerjammer
October 22nd, 2009
3:11 pm
DOB,
I inserted Freeman into the conversation based on your guess (”…if they re-sign LaRoche, they obviously don’t need a first baseman. But if they don’t – and if I had to guess right now, I’d say they won’t…”) that LaRoche wouldn’t be re-signed; therefore, I theorized Frank would sign a one-year guy to keep 1B warm for Freeman in 2011. Never linked you to Freeman. That was me doing the speculating.
Lew
October 22nd, 2009
3:11 pm
Fleming-The added value with LaRoche the first half of this year would have been the difference between Roachy’s 14 (avg) HR’s before the break, compared to Kotchman’s 2. Yes, CK hit well for average and OBP, but the lack of power is what killed us. I think it could have made 4-5 games difference the way the first half went had LaRoache been there all season. I admit that’s speculation, but that one or two runs in quite a few games (especially with our pitching) would have made a HUGE difference.
CB-I want ALR re-signed, but want to see them wave goodbye to Hudson and take the $12 mil they’d save and get more offense. I think that having Prado all year will help power wise, too. He should easily hit 15 and I’m not sure if many here expected Yunel to be in the 15 range, either.
Bobby's Cox
October 22nd, 2009
3:11 pm
Lowe is an off and on pitcher. He goes through ups and downs throughout a season, and he’ll have mediocre seasons followed by stellar ones. If last year was considered mediocre, then we’re in for a good season from Lowe (well either us or a trade partner).
Reading Lowe’s comments after his last start give me plenty of reason to believe he can regain the form on his sinker.
P. W. Hjort
October 22nd, 2009
3:11 pm
Papi’s is the Cuban sandwich place on Ponce that everyone raves about. I’m yet to try it.
Daslied
October 22nd, 2009
3:15 pm
DAP – the suggestion to trade Soria is true, the Frenchy part untrue. I’d say there’s about a 2% chance of that happening; the writer was saying that they need upgrades just about everywhere.
BossLady
October 22nd, 2009
3:20 pm
The Phillies played good baseball all year. Along the way they picked up players when needed, regular players stepped up and they genuinely played hard every game. I see in them the desire and need to win games. All of the come from behind wins in the 8th and 9th inning are signs of they never give up. Looking around the National League they are by far the best team to hold the Championship. The Braves ran out of gas and desire to win leaving some with colds from the rain, bank accounts hit hard with just empty seats. Not a winning attitude type of organization.
Bobby's Cox
October 22nd, 2009
3:20 pm
Never been a LaRoche fan, but he finally earned my respect this last half season. Really good teammate and produced…but I’m still skeptical of his 1st halves. With a lack of better options, he may be our best option for next year.
Would anyone else here consider a Freddie Freeman, Billy Butler trade besides me? Love Freeman, but Butler already looks established.
mike
October 22nd, 2009
3:36 pm
Escobar to Oakland
for
Andrew Bailey- this guy is a beast closer in his rookie season
OF Scott Hairston he’s signed through 2011, good player
Mike WUertz 100 k’s for reliever 2nd in mlb
Grey Beard
October 22nd, 2009
3:45 pm
Grizzled Veteran isn’t the only old timer following this blog. I followed the Giants from the time that they moved to San Francisco until the 1970’s. First, I agree that Willie Mays was a more complete baseball player than Andruw Jones. Willie had his 50+ home run year, but he also was a .300+ average hitter (lost out for the batting championship one year by .0004 to Richy Ashburn) with many 100+ RBI years. He just stayed around too long as many super-stars do. His last year or so with the Giants and his time with the Mets should not be used to degrade the career he had from 1951 through the 1960’s.
On another point, the Braves of the last few years remind me very much of the 1960 – 1966 Giants. Very good starting pitching, but only two home run threats. Still they played Base-to-base baseball – - hit a single and wait for someone to hit a home run. They got to the World Series once (1962) during those years and lost to the Yankees in seven games. But they got that far only because some of the non-stars had a exceptional years during the 1962 season. The Giants kept looking for another big hitter, but never found him. In fact, they traded for Harvey Kuenn during that time, and although he hit lead-off and had an average above .300, the fans and the San Francisco Chronicle wanted him gone because he didn’t hit home runs. That is why Matty Alou – - all 5′8″ and 165 pounds of him – - tried to be a power hitter and hit .230 when he was capable of winning a batting crown. Is that what the Braves are doing to McLouth, Dias, Escobar, Prado, Shaefer and others? Maybe the Braves have a lead-off hitter already on the roster, but the only way to be a starter for the Braves is to hit home runs! It didn’t work then and it isn’t working now.
Andy K.
October 22nd, 2009
3:45 pm
mike, then who do you suppose should play SS??? Escobar will not be traded…he’s too young and too valuable.
Andy K.
October 22nd, 2009
3:48 pm
I say sign DeRosa, and/or Nelson Cruz. If only DeRosa, he could play RF and spell Chipper every now and then. If Cruz, he plays Right until Heyward up, then a trading chip after 2010. If both, You can get LaRoche go, maybe? Then D-Ro can play first Cruz in right. Or keep LaRoche, but thats a lot of money for two outfielders and a 1B.
P. W. Hjort
October 22nd, 2009
3:49 pm
Great quote to augment my Schafer argument:
Aron (STL)
Klaw is Daryl Jones really a 5 tool guy i see no power at all slug/ OPS .378/739. those are Juan Pierre numbers! I don’t see that playing in a corner OF
Klaw
(1:34 PM)
Good thing a half season of AA stats isn’t definitive then, isn’t it?
David O'Brien
October 22nd, 2009
3:49 pm
Rammerjammer: And you may be right. I’m just saying, it’s not something Wren has said or implied.
David O'Brien
October 22nd, 2009
3:52 pm
PWH: No, not Papi’s. That’s another one, but that’s not the one I’m talking about. This one’s on Fifth, not Ponce.
Andy K.
October 22nd, 2009
3:53 pm
Why is everyone giving up on Jordan Schafer? So he stumbled into the mid season, not to mention with a severe wrist injury. Give the kid a chance. Chances are he’ still just as good as we thought he was that first game in Philly, he just needs to be 100%. He’ll probably start out as Gwinnett’s starting CF, but in time I hope he’s starting with the big club. Picture an OF of McLouth, Heyward, and re-adjusted Schafer, in a year or two maybe sooner.
P. W. Hjort
October 22nd, 2009
3:55 pm
Steve (Ohio)
Hi Keith, I was wondering what your opinion is on Mike Minor, along with what you’ve heard other people say about him. Still bummed the Braves took him 7th overall. Thanks!
Klaw
(2:13 PM)
Wrote about him last week too – back-end starter.
Was that our Steve from OH? I’m willing to bet it’s not.
P-Town Brave
October 22nd, 2009
3:57 pm
Mike-
WOW! That one could be headlined as one of the worst trade ideas ever…
I guess while we’re at it, why don’t we trade Jair to Cincinnati for Dickerson, Ramirez, Janish, and Hannigan
OR
Maybe we can send BMac to Arizona for Mulvey, Roberts, and Romero…
Ok, you should get the point by now…
P-Town Brave
October 22nd, 2009
3:59 pm
Andy-
My one concern.
Can you name a ML outfield w/ all 3 players being strickly left-handed?
Along w/ that we have an issue in that we also will have BMac and possibly LaRoche, and then Chipper who always has had more power from the left side.
You see my point here? Thats why I don’t like the Schafer/McLouth/Heyward OF setup.
David O'Brien
October 22nd, 2009
4:06 pm
One of our regulars, an actual recording artists with an album that I bought before I ever knew he read the blog, sent me this e-mail. (I actually like a bunch of the acts on this list, too.):
Agency names 35 artists, songs used on U.S. military terror suspects A Freedom of Information Act request filed on Thursday names 35 musicians or songs that it said were used against detainees at U.S. military detention centers, including the one at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
The National Security Archive — the Washington-based independent research institute that filed the request — said the documents it is seeking “contain explicit references to the following bands or songs”:
– AC/DC
– Aerosmith
– Barney theme song (By Bob Singleton)
– The Bee Gees
– Britney Spears
– Bruce Springsteen
– Christina Aguilera
– David Gray
– Deicide
– Don McClean
– Dope
– Dr. Dre
– Drowning Pool
– Eminem
– Hed P.E.
– James Taylor
– Limp Bizkit
– Marilyn Manson
– Matchbox Twenty
– Meatloaf
– Meow mix jingle
– Metallica
– Neil Diamond
– Nine Inch Nails
– Pink
– Prince
– Queen
– Rage against the Machine
– Red Hot Chili Peppers
– Redman
– Saliva
– Sesame street theme music (By Christopher Cerf)
– Stanley Brothers
– The Star Spangled Banner
– Tupac Shakur
Andy K.
October 22nd, 2009
4:08 pm
P-Town. Thats tue, didn’t think about that. We’d have to be Righty heavy in the infield basically to make that balanced. But things should unfold in a few years when decisions have to be made. Plus sad but true Chipper’s only got a few years left, and after that they could get a righty 3B
DAP
October 22nd, 2009
4:12 pm
the meow mix jingle? now thats torture.
Lunatic Fringe
October 22nd, 2009
4:15 pm
DOB,
So that explains Marilyn Manson—he is a government employee
RHR
October 22nd, 2009
4:22 pm
I may or may not be a recording artist.
RHR
October 22nd, 2009
4:22 pm
If you’ve ever heard me sing along to the radio before you’re laughing right now.
Ken Griffey Jr.
October 22nd, 2009
4:23 pm
STEVE PHILLIPS STILL CAN’T EVALUATE TALENT!
thank you, thank you… I’ll be here all week
AndyC
October 22nd, 2009
4:24 pm
I’m ok with the Braves letting Roachy go but they have to find a good replacement with good power. The only problem is that if this is a one year rental situation with the expectation that Freeman will be ready in 2011, what do they do if Freeman doesn’t work out? They will be stuck in a situation where they may not be able to afford the one year rental after 2010, assuming he produced solid numbers. I would at least try to resign Roachy. Maybe the market will soften like it did last year and he can be had for a reasonable two year deal.
RHR
October 22nd, 2009
4:24 pm
By the way, RHR, in no way did I have you in mind when I spoke the other day of old dudettes ruling. Surely had in mind someone else entirely.
Thanks for chiming right in with a post before we got to another page, BossLady.
AndyC
October 22nd, 2009
4:25 pm
RHR
Is that you Madonna?
My Mans Gots To Know
October 22nd, 2009
4:27 pm
Fatter? Mo Vaughn or Brooke Hundley?
Worse Career Ending Transaction? Mo Vaughn or Brooke Hundley?
RHR
October 22nd, 2009
4:28 pm
Ew no. I’m definitely NOT a pre-madonna. I was just a babe in the woods when she started out.
RHR
October 22nd, 2009
4:30 pm
As a woman I can’t laugh or make comments on the Steve Phillips thing because it’ll make me look bad. I’m either laughing or cringing. I can’t say.
jeffrey d
October 22nd, 2009
4:31 pm
I have an album….but we’ve sold about 100 copies in oh…a year.
jeffrey d
October 22nd, 2009
4:34 pm
McFann – don’t know if you saw the vent from a few months ago, but it went something like
McCann can. Jorge Cantu. And Greg Norton is terrible.
CB
October 22nd, 2009
4:36 pm
jeffrey d, family members bought the 100?
RHR
October 22nd, 2009
4:38 pm
Oh hey, jeffrey is telling the truth. I saw something about a recording studio on his facebook the other day. Me? I’m lying like a dog. Only recording I’ve ever done is when I was about 7 I used to hide a tape recorder under my big sister’s bed so I could record her and her friends talking when they came over and locked me out.
ncscoots
October 22nd, 2009
4:38 pm
As a woman I can’t laugh or make comments on the Steve Phillips thing because it’ll make me look bad.
Hey, you think he’s not making us GUYS look bad?!?
jeffrey d
October 22nd, 2009
4:40 pm
jeffrey d, family members bought the 100?
Yeah, probably. And maybe a couple deaf people.
My Mans Gots To Know
October 22nd, 2009
4:41 pm
Safe to say now that Todd Hundley wasn’t the only Hundley who sucked under Steve Phillips?
jeffrey d
October 22nd, 2009
4:42 pm
when I was about 7 I used to hide a tape recorder under my big sister’s bed so I could record her and her friends talking when they came over and locked me out
You ever get anything good?
AndyC
October 22nd, 2009
4:45 pm
I am both laughing and cringing about the Steve Phillips thing. This guy is a world class screw-up. A multiple cheater who can’t keep it in his pants. He is a dirty dog and I hope his soon-to-be ex-wife takes him for every cent he has. Wouldn’t you look to see him on the stand during the divorce hearing and see her lawyer ripping him to shreds? That would be good tv.
RHR
October 22nd, 2009
4:46 pm
jeffrey – they were like 11…so no, I don’t remember anything notable.
McFann Ô
October 22nd, 2009
4:47 pm
jeffrey d–
Don’t think I ever saw that one, but I did see one a while back that said, “Brian McCann, Jorge Cantu, Jeff still can’t.”
ugaaccountant
October 22nd, 2009
4:50 pm
One reason some folks are “giving up” on Schafer is that his minor league numbers were not outstanding like a Jason Heyward. See the last few pages of yesterday’s blog for P.W.Hjort’s counterargument that they were really good.
I like Schafer when compared with options like Gregor Blanco or Ryan Church or Garett Anderson. But now that management has our hopes up for a Matt Holliday type slugger, a guy like Schafer doesn’t really compare. Last offseason we were a bad team trying to get to good. Now we’re a good team wanting to win it all. Maybe Schafer comes up and knocks Diaz out of our team, but my interpretation of his career to date, the good and the bad, is he isn’t good enough to displace McLouth for 2010 or likely 2011.
jeffrey d
October 22nd, 2009
4:51 pm
McFann – THAT was it. I remembered the last part was insulting to a not so great player. Guess I forgot about Francoeur.
Your talk about Cantu just made me think about that.
Soph
October 22nd, 2009
4:51 pm
“Brian McCann, Jorge Cantu, Jeff still can’t.”
Ha, I love it.
ugaaccountant
October 22nd, 2009
4:52 pm
You know, I think the phillies being so dominant might get the Braves a few more dollars in their acquisition pile. Even a liberty media like owner should notice that we’ll have a hard time competing with 2 time defending champs as currently budgeted.
jeffrey d
October 22nd, 2009
4:53 pm
Speaking of vents, I see mine got voted next to last today. Ouch…I’ve been pretty off lately.
Daslied
October 22nd, 2009
4:53 pm
I’m working on my 3rd album, but it wasn’t me, since DOB indicated one was actually purchased.
ncscoots
October 22nd, 2009
4:54 pm
but my interpretation of his career to date, the good and the bad, is he isn’t good enough to displace McLouth for 2010 or likely 2011.
I believe I’ll bookmark that one, my friend. Might want to return to it at a later date.
jeffrey d
October 22nd, 2009
4:54 pm
Maybe it’s because I said billions when I meant millions. Or maybe it’s because we’re red and some people don’t like Obama.
RHR
October 22nd, 2009
4:55 pm
If I were her divorce attorney I would probably approach him and say “REALLY?!” and then rest my case.
CB
October 22nd, 2009
4:57 pm
ugaaccountant,in defense of PWH, he was really counterarguing Schafer’s potential-we know what can happen to potential,they end up playing RF for the Mets.
RHR
October 22nd, 2009
4:58 pm
Heck I’m probably good enough to displace McLouth most days.
Jersey Gil
October 22nd, 2009
4:59 pm
DOB…If the Yankee win tonight this Series will Call….
The NJ TURNPIKE SERIES…More Phillis Fan in this side of the River than in the City of Philadelphia..Couple Hour Drive.
Soph
October 22nd, 2009
4:59 pm
-15…nice.
jeffrey d
October 22nd, 2009
5:01 pm
Heck I’m probably good enough to displace McLouth most days.
So’s McLouth’s little sister http://www.flickr.com/photos/tlaenpix/3440861490/
jeffrey d
October 22nd, 2009
5:02 pm
Shoot…it was -13 when I checked just a few minutes ago.
richbrave
October 22nd, 2009
5:02 pm
Here’s one way to go for the offense next season. We don’t resign ADAM LaROCHE, and we go get PRINCE FIELDER for 1st base. Now we have a bat for the middle of the line-up. FIELDER’s contract calls for 10.5 million in 2010, then arbitration kicks in. We lose LaROCHE and his 7.05 million. FIELDER had a monster year with the BREW-CREW. 46 HR’s, 141 RBI, .299 BA, 1.019 IPS, wow !! We can’t offer the BREWERS LaROCHE as an incentive because he’s no longer under contract unless we sign LaROCHE for close to what he’s making now then trade. But FIELDER’s bat would solve our offense problem w/o having to get a monster corner like BAY. Problem remains what will the BREWERS want as sweetners for the deal. It’s a one year deal, then problematic thereafter, and the sky’s the limit if FIELDERS 2010 is anywhere near his 2009. Just a thought, but if we pull off something like that, we might be able to squeeze in HUDSON at 9.5 million for three.
Soph
October 22nd, 2009
5:04 pm
Well, it wasn’t me. I was going to be nice and vote it up by one to -14.
Um, it’s -16 now.
McFann Ô
October 22nd, 2009
5:04 pm
jeffrey d Your talk about Cantu just made me think about that.
Must be sub-conscientiously where I got it from…
You had a vent? I’ll have to go see that…
Soph Ha, I love it.
Yeah…kinda mean, but ya know…
ugaaccountant
October 22nd, 2009
5:04 pm
NCSCOOTS – I did mean displace as in actually being better, not just there to save money. Sorry about that.