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Heywards Heroes
October 27th, 2009
5:06 pm
Home Run Freddie Freeman!
Random
October 27th, 2009
5:09 pm
Wayne in Utah (October 27th, 2009 4:40 pm): “Might be exciting for a while, but in the end, your going to get screwed for sure.”
I’m in a state now where I can easily envision much worse things happening.
Which reminds me, when are you going to tell us about your “kissin cussin”?
(Like ncscoots, I’m also a man of simple pleasures. All of which nowadays seem to be vicarious. So tell us!!!)
jeffrey d
October 27th, 2009
5:09 pm
Braves’ top prospect injures leg
Aw, that’s kind of the AJC editors. I guess “Braves’ top prospect injures butt” doesn’t have the same ring to it.
Wayne in Utah (WWRFD)
October 27th, 2009
5:10 pm
A-Dave
If you were LaRoche, would you sign for 2 years at a club happy price, if you knew they were going to deal you once Freeman was ready? (not saying he wouldn’t, but I don’t know…..I wouldn’t)
rammerjammer
October 27th, 2009
5:14 pm
Just ready to get to page 23.
rammerjammer
October 27th, 2009
5:14 pm
And we were already there!
Random
October 27th, 2009
5:15 pm
Dies Irae (October 27th, 2009 4:57 pm): “Lew, didn’t you spend all last winter telling us that the Phillies weren’t all that great too?”
Ahhhhh, duuude — yer stealin’ my thunder.
I was just considerin’ diggin’ some of those old nuggets out for the general amusement of one and all (minus one).
Now he’s four armed.
Wayne in Utah (WWRFD)
October 27th, 2009
5:16 pm
Random
Though it was not part of the story, but I did have a cousin back in the day, that was a Daisy Duke type! She ended up getting pregnant when she was 17, married to a no good redneck, then ended up killing them both (she was driving) between Greenwood and Abbeville trying to pass too many cars on a two lane……
Boy was she purty though!
Dies Irae
October 27th, 2009
5:16 pm
This also allows the Braves a chance to give Heyward time in AAA without people questioning that he should be called up right away (RC)
you’re dreaming there.if H hits at all in ST there will be lots of bloggers demanding he start the season in the bigs, and bitchin’ like a Robert if he doesn’t
Wayne in Utah (WWRFD)
October 27th, 2009
5:18 pm
Has anybody tried the “Elvis Blog” yet?
David O'Brien
October 27th, 2009
5:19 pm
Hey, in a way, this Heyward thing could make things a little simpler for the Braves this offseason. By that, I mean that if he’d gone to the AFL and hit .350 with 10 homers and a 1.200 OPS or something like Flowers did a year ago, then the Braves might feel more pressure to keep a spot open for him in spring training and be less inclined to pursue an OF this winter. But with only 50 games above the A-ball level, plus the four in the AFL, they might now (if they didn’t already) feel more of an urgency to bring in a slugger this winter who can play an OF corner.
Wayne in Utah (WWRFD)
October 27th, 2009
5:19 pm
Dies
Just like Schafer last year, if he wins the job in the spring, he should head north with the big club.
Soph
October 27th, 2009
5:20 pm
Uh oh, Heyward’s hurt? Is Rob okay?
Dies Irae
October 27th, 2009
5:21 pm
Good point DOB. let’s hope it works that way.
Wayne in Utah (WWRFD)
October 27th, 2009
5:22 pm
jeffrey
Or, “Braves rookie has a sore azz!”
P. W. Hjort
October 27th, 2009
5:25 pm
Speaking of “where are they now?”, where is Chop Chop?
Dies Irae
October 27th, 2009
5:26 pm
Just like Schafer last year, if he wins the job in the spring, he should head north with the big club Wayne
generally they count ST and Sept at bats with less consideration.Schafer really worked out well in that circumstance didn’t he? There have been hundreds, probably thousands, of players over the years who had a hot spring and then floundered. People on here act like the world is gonna end if some prospect has to spend some needed time in AAA.
CB
October 27th, 2009
5:26 pm
When did this become a soap opera blog?
Lew
October 27th, 2009
5:27 pm
Yes, I did say that the Phillies had question marks last off season and they did. Utley was not expected to return from surgery for the first half of the season , but he didn’t miss any time. That certainly made a huge difference I also said there was no way Lidge repeated his 08 season. I was right, too, but their pitching was way better than I ever thought they would be. That was the big difference maker.
I think the Philies will have a good team again this year. What I was saying was that they would implode under all the contracts in the next couple of years and that they still had question marks about their pitching going forward. Lee is only signed for this year, Myers is always iffy, Happ has only had one season under his belt and Blanton’s contract will be up in a year or so. Pedro did pretty well, all thins considered, but I doubt he could pitch an entire season that effectively.
But do I expect them to be in the mix in 2010, probably even to the point of being the favorite? Absolutely. But I also expect the Braves to be there, too and I like the Braves pitching going forward for quite a few years much more than I like what Philly has going.
jeffrey d
October 27th, 2009
5:27 pm
Or, “Braves rookie has a sore azz!”
Can you imagine opening the paper and seeing that headline?
Rob from SC
October 27th, 2009
5:29 pm
Soph
October 27th, 2009
5:20 pm
Uh oh, Heyward’s hurt? Is Rob okay?
I know, I am racovering from my surgery, now this
Lew
October 27th, 2009
5:29 pm
And did anyone seriously believe that Raul Ibanez would have the first half that he did?
P-Town Brave
October 27th, 2009
5:32 pm
CALLING JASON BAY
jeffrey d
October 27th, 2009
5:33 pm
Speaking of “where are they now?”, where is Chop Chop?
Wow, good call.
jeffrey d
October 27th, 2009
5:34 pm
And did anyone seriously believe that Raul Ibanez would have the first half that he did?
I believe Lentz and about 5 or 6 more people from the blog.
bruce
October 27th, 2009
5:34 pm
Dave,
Sorry to hear the news about Heyward. Maybe Braves would let you view their scouting video of Heyward so that you could still report on him as if you were seeing him in the AFL.
Anders
October 27th, 2009
5:36 pm
Hey, you guys want the Mets doctors to have a look at Heyward? Talk about making the Braves decisions simple. We’ll take him out of play until next labor day!
chris
October 27th, 2009
5:36 pm
josh willingham, ryan ludwick, matt holliday, corey hart, mike cameron, ryan braun, hunter pence, jason bay, xaiver nady, nick swisher, alex rios, jermaine dye, billy butler, michael cuddyer, nelson cruz, marlon byrd…one of these players will mostly be with the braves next year, but who? everybody predict which player will realistically be an atlanta brave.
Anders
October 27th, 2009
5:38 pm
Hey Lew – I guess you heard that the Wilpons didn’t lose any money in the Madoff thing after all. As a matter of fact they made $50 mil. I can’t wait for the first day of FA – how about you?
Random
October 27th, 2009
5:41 pm
Wayne in Utah (October 27th, 2009 5:16 pm) –
Ahhhhhhh — Daisy Duke.
Thanks — that’ll do me for a while.
. . .
CB (October 27th, 2009
5:26 pm): “When did this become a soap opera blog?”
Huh — you must hit the sack at 9 or 10 every night, to be askin’ that question at this late date.
Mixxo
October 27th, 2009
5:41 pm
OK, Heyward’s hurt. Now what are you geniuses gonna come up with?
:snax:
rammerjammer
October 27th, 2009
5:41 pm
Chris, that post reminded me of that horrible, horrible Billy Joel song.
David O'Brien
October 27th, 2009
5:44 pm
Anders (5:36), now that was funny. And ain’t it the truth….
McFann Ô
October 27th, 2009
5:47 pm
rammerjammer–
I got it to fit the tune, and it even rhymed a little bit…
Travis
October 27th, 2009
5:48 pm
That was good ANDERS
Lew
October 27th, 2009
5:50 pm
Andeers-I’ll believe the Mets have that money (like we’ve been hearing from y’all for years) when I see them spend it all.
Beats hell out of me how they can claim Madoff lost billions for all these people and yet Wilpon and a couple others (like the Dude who just drowned) still managed to make millions. Bet they don’t get to keep it. If nothing else, it will be tied up in litigation for so long the Mets won’t see any of it for years.
Random
October 27th, 2009
5:51 pm
Dies Irae –
NOW see what you did?
Wayne in Utah (WWRFD)
October 27th, 2009
5:51 pm
Lies
I am not opposed to having a player go down for more seasoning. I am also certain that you can’t really say that Schafer did poorly because he came up too fast, as there is a question as to whether that was the case, or was it injury associated. (he started off well, btw)
I will trust in the Braves folks to determine if Heyward should go north with the big club, or if he should get some AAA time. I just think it’s a little premature to decide what it will be on October 27th.
Wayne in Utah (WWRFD)
October 27th, 2009
5:53 pm
Dies, not Lies.
Lew
October 27th, 2009
5:53 pm
Random-Hey Dude, I admitted I was wrong. I also admitted I thought Prado was a utilty player and not worthy of every day status. I was wrong about that too. But I was right about Vazquez and Peavy being an injury risk. I’ll settle for a 50% correct prediction rate.
Anders
October 27th, 2009
5:53 pm
Hope you guys are rooting for the Phils like me. This Yankee fan base is starting to get their legs back after a 5 year hiatus. The big mantra now is that “The Yanks spend their money more wisely than the other big teams and the Steinbrenner boys stepped up to the plate to write the checks.”
Nauseating to say the least. They spent almost a half a billion dollars last off season on the three best guys in the market, not named Lowe anyway.{:
Now their pompous fans are beginning to take bows up this way. They have to go down to the Phils. Come on Matlock (Charlie Manuel), make this happen.
chris
October 27th, 2009
5:55 pm
lol it does seem like a song. just want to see everybody’s initial guess on who the braves would pick up for a rh bat.
CB
October 27th, 2009
5:55 pm
Random, yeah you got me there but I do know what you are talking about.
Wayne in Utah (WWRFD)
October 27th, 2009
5:59 pm
chris
I will bite. I say Jason Bay (probably just wishful thinking on my part). Definitely not Alex Rios.
Mixxo
October 27th, 2009
6:00 pm
Go Phillies!!!
Yah baby!
Wayne in Utah (WWRFD)
October 27th, 2009
6:00 pm
you didn’t put Ryan Freel on that list. right handed….can play the outfield…..lots of power……
Anders
October 27th, 2009
6:02 pm
Andeers-I’ll believe the Mets have that money (like we’ve been hearing from y’all for years) when I see them spend it all (Lew)
The Mets have one of the highest payrolls in the NL if not the highest. I don’t expect them to spend like the Yanks – who can? But it’s not like Wilpon has been sitting on his wallet.
I don’t care if he gets a nickel of the $50 mil. I’m just glad he didn’t lose the $500 mil or more that was reported. I now expect the Mets to keep their payroll near where it was.
rammerjammer
October 27th, 2009
6:03 pm
McFann, I’m not sure if that’s a good thing. No, I’m pretty sure it isn’t!
Wayne in Utah (WWRFD)
October 27th, 2009
6:04 pm
Daslied or Dies Irae? Is this the same blogger? Interesting monikers for sure.
P. W. Hjort
October 27th, 2009
6:04 pm
Hicks has drawn 3 walks today.
Wayne in Utah (WWRFD)
October 27th, 2009
6:05 pm
Anders
So, there is no rumor to the pending Mets fire sale? I was hoping we could pick up Beltran for a song……
P. W. Hjort
October 27th, 2009
6:05 pm
And Hicks’ 3rd walk of the game put the winning run on 3rd. The next batter delivered the game winner.
Wayne in Utah (WWRFD)
October 27th, 2009
6:07 pm
PW Hjort
Would love to see Freeman and Hicks kick it up a notch in the next year.
Wayne in Utah (WWRFD)
October 27th, 2009
6:09 pm
A walk is OK, but I woulda rather seen the kid lace a double into the gap.
Will the Braves replace Heyward???
Dies Irae
October 27th, 2009
6:09 pm
Daslied or Dies Irae? Wayne
different
Anders
October 27th, 2009
6:10 pm
Wayne – Don’t believe all that Beltran trade talk. That was just Fat Fransesca fanning the Mets doom and gloom flames. I heard Beltran on the FAN with the daytime guys back in August and he said every decision about his injury he made himself with advise from the Dr.s. The Mets let him decide if he wanted to keep playing (which he did for a while) and when to shut it down. They also let him come back when he was ready. He absolved the Mets 100%. Fransesca jut loves to tweek the Mets fans.
You can’t find a player like Beltran to play CF today. He’s basically untouchable imo. How would they replace what he brings?
Anders
October 27th, 2009
6:10 pm
You can’t find a player like Beltran to play CF today. (Anders)
By this I meant an available player.
Anders
October 27th, 2009
6:12 pm
Hicks has drawn 3 walks today. (P.W. Hjort)
Chipper’s playing in the AFL? Oh, I didn’t see the S on the end there. Sorry.
McFann Ô
October 27th, 2009
6:14 pm
rammerjammer–
Anders
October 27th, 2009
6:16 pm
So, there is no rumor to the pending Mets fire sale? (Wayne)
I’ll go a step further now that the Madoff thing is in the rear view mirror. The Mets drew 3 million folks at home this year. They were lucky they opened up the new park in this horrific injury riddled season. It saved their financial bacon. They know they’ll need to be competitive next season to draw like that again. Based on that I expect them to be net buyers not sellers.
chris
October 27th, 2009
6:17 pm
lol yea i fogot about ryan freel on my list. have freel in the cleanup spot…”right handed pop we can believe in” haha
Wayne in Utah (WWRFD)
October 27th, 2009
6:18 pm
Anders
Agreed on Beltran. Just jerking your chain a bit….
Dies Irae
October 27th, 2009
6:18 pm
the Braves do not have a history of being happy with .230 hitters no matter how much power or how many walks, I wonder if Wren will change that
Mixxo
October 27th, 2009
6:20 pm
Ryan Freel’s a joke. He and Eric Byrnes need to hook-up. Speedfreaks!
“Lets dive for a can o’ corn!” :rolleyes:
Besides, they’re on my fielder roster…..where they need to stay.
Wayne in Utah (WWRFD)
October 27th, 2009
6:22 pm
Dies
Are you referencing the recent Dies Irae, or the 13th century hymn?
P. W. Hjort
October 27th, 2009
6:22 pm
Chipper’s playing in the AFL? Oh, I didn’t see the S on the end there. Sorry.
Heh. It’s OK, though, Francoeur is a Met.
McFann Ô
October 27th, 2009
6:26 pm
Mixxo Besides, [Eric Byrnes is] on my fielder roster
Finally something we agree on…
Steve from OH
October 27th, 2009
6:26 pm
Anders–give this a read:
http://www.squawkingbaseball.com/?p=953
Wayne in Utah (WWRFD)
October 27th, 2009
6:26 pm
Mixxo
Freel and Byrnes might be jokes, but I am guessing they have played a few more games than you or I have…..
And yes, Freel is an inside joke here…… By not going along, you show you have not studied enough blog lore…..(just jerking your chain too!)
We need to have some pre-requisite courses completed before folks are allowed on the blog. We could call it “Blog Basics 101, for pre-madonnas”
Steve from OH
October 27th, 2009
6:27 pm
Freeman went 2-4 with a homer today…
MetsWSCahmps2010
October 27th, 2009
6:32 pm
Anders,
There are a couple of people on this ole blog that didn’t believe the Madoff-Wilpon 50 million deal. THey still think the Mets lost millions. I told them the Mets would be big players in the FA pool…and they didn’t believe they would. They will.
7
October 27th, 2009
6:44 pm
Astros just hired Boston bench coach Mills to be their Manager. Thats the guy Mark Bradley had picked( Hope) to take Bobbys place after this coming year. Indians got Acta yesterday and Houston got Mills today………….whats next? Who will Nationals get.. DM?
brent a.
October 27th, 2009
6:49 pm
Freeman went 2-4 with a homer today…
and the likelihood of re-signing LaRoche continues to dwindle . .
Wayne in Utah (WWRFD)
October 27th, 2009
6:57 pm
brent
If you were LaRoche and the Braves weren’t committing to you beyond 2 years, wouldn’t you look elsewhere?
Dies Irae
October 27th, 2009
7:07 pm
re you referencing the recent Dies Irae, or the 13th century hymn
just plain ol’ Days of Wrath in case I’m in a bad mood about the Braves or the bloggers.
nolie
October 27th, 2009
7:13 pm
and the likelihood of re-signing LaRoche continues to dwindle (brent a)
maybe, but no matter how he does out there, the likelihood of him starting in Atlanta B4 2011 is slim. I’m looking for a trade rather than re-signing Adam as the most likely approach.How ’bout Lowe for Loney, or is that too loony?
TnBrian
October 27th, 2009
7:19 pm
Me and my buddy can’t figure out who to go for in this W.S. Ever since I’ve turned him into a Braves fan(he’s from Arizona) he flat out can’t stand Ryan Howard & the Phills. But, anybody can see that every year the Stankees try & buy themselves a ring it just makes the choice that much harder. We decided to go with the Phillies.
Random, this ‘hillbilly’ showers every day & sometimes twice a day. You need to get creative with your comments instead of nit picking everybody else’s trying to pump your ego for whatever reason. It’s ok man, we’ll never see you, so no need to try & impress faceless bloggers.
N8
October 27th, 2009
7:25 pm
I was thinking the same thing as you stated in your 5:19 DOB. I think barring a spring where he hits like .700 or something, they’ll now almost certainly use those two months before calling him up.
Hey. They could always bring in Larry Johnson. He needs a job, and he can hit. What’s that? Hitting women doesn’t count? Oh. Never mind.
For the record, I went round and round last year with multiple people on how Ibanez should have been our first choice. But was told his bat wasn’t good enough to make up for his horrible defense.
P. W. Hjort
October 27th, 2009
7:26 pm
Is there possibly a better way to start the NBA season than listening to Charles Barkley for 30 minutes?
TnBrian
October 27th, 2009
7:29 pm
My thought is that if Atlanta doesn’t resign LaRoche then maybe that’s where the big bat comes from in a trade or signing. More likely a trade, right, because what FA 1st baseman really fits a teams need for a slugger? Delgado/Branyan do, I guess, but they’re getting old and crippled. I’d like a Derek Lee in the lineup & maybe he wouldn’t take a ton to get because he’ll be a FA after 2010.
Then Atl. could go & sign Nady or Willingham as kind of a bonus to the offense. Lord, there are so many twists & turns the offseason can take for teams that it’s damn near impossible to know anything for sure. It’s fun to guess though.
David O'Brien
October 27th, 2009
7:33 pm
This from Braves: Jason Heyward was examined today by Dr. Marvin Royster, who diagnosed Heyward with back inflammation that has been radiating to his glut. Heyward will undergo treatment and rest for the next few weeks and will not return to the Arizona Fall League.
nolie
October 27th, 2009
7:36 pm
(DOB)
any idea if this is spine related?
bruce
October 27th, 2009
7:36 pm
so he has a flamer?
unbelievable
October 27th, 2009
7:55 pm
would you swap Derek Lowe (3/$45) for Matthews Jr (2/$23)
reagan
October 27th, 2009
7:58 pm
One guy’s opinion……….we are NOT going to get a Bay, Holliday or Manny …etc.!!! We DON”T have the money folks and we would have to give up too much young talent….(weve learned THAT lesson haven’t we?) Dont see any big attraction in Nady or Swisher either. I said about 7-10 days ago to look at Fox of the Cubs…only 2 posters responded. Couple of days later , Dierkes in MLB chat fielded a question about the Braves looking for a bat and mentioned Fox. Today,,, someone else asked the same question and again he mentioned Fox……(also mentioned Willingham). Think….do you think the Nats would like a “name” (and “innings eater” like Lowe? What about the cubs…..think they might like a sinker ball pitcher like Lowe in Wrigley? You keep beating the same dead horses…….guys who are overpaid (and not thatgood) and guys we can NOT afford.
David O'Brien
October 27th, 2009
8:00 pm
PWH: That was, indeed, a great 30-minute NBA season preview. And I like that they kept it short and to the point.
Now if the Celts can just come back and beat Cleveland on its home court in this opener.
David O'Brien
October 27th, 2009
8:04 pm
Reagan, you are correct.
I’ve gotta ask anyone: Why would the Braves (or any team without money to burn) really want Manny anymore? If he — and I don’t think he will — declines his $20 mill option for 2010, it’d only be to go somewhere for more years and more guaranteed money. Period.
He’s worth perhaps half that salary (if that) in his post-roid-suspension state, when you factor in the continual disruptive stuff on top of the modest production (modest for a bad-fielding power hitter getting paid like one of the sport’s top superstars).
jeffrey d
October 27th, 2009
8:36 pm
To bad Steve Phillips isn’t a GM anymore. He seemed to enjoy giving aging players big contracts. Too bad, Manny
Jurrjens4NLCY
October 27th, 2009
8:40 pm
Lew,
I know someone who has acne in his 30’s, But I got my own secret solution to fightin it, so, I’ll be good for a while
Soph
October 27th, 2009
8:47 pm
Now if the Celts can just come back and beat Cleveland on its home court in this opener.
DOB – I take you’re not a LeBron fan?
Bruce's Pearl
October 27th, 2009
8:50 pm
Reagan,
Another strong point for Jake Fox is he can catch as well,which would allow you to use McCann as a DH in interleague games as he could serve as the emergency catcher with Ross starting.Also can play either corner infield spots.Wouldnt be a bad pickup depending on what you would have to give up.
Gov Clinton Tyree
October 27th, 2009
8:53 pm
Sounds like Heyward has one of those dreaded “high ass sprains”. Much worse than an ordinary ass sprain. Takes weeks to heal.
jeffrey d
October 27th, 2009
8:54 pm
I’m sure not a LeBron fan anymore. Not after what we learned about him last postseason – organizing a celebration party in Atlanta BEFORE the game even started, moping off the court after losing to the Magic, etc.
Gov Clinton Tyree
October 27th, 2009
9:00 pm
Well, Reagan, guess what? I’m one of those crazies (40-something lifelong Braves fan with advanced degree and career in financial services industry) who think the Braves CAN afford a Bay/Holliday priced LF (and LaRoche, Hudson, and one of the closers) with a modest (3%) increase in payroll. I’m too tired of doing it to recite it again, but it is not outside the realm of possibility.
And I find people who jump up and down and stomp their feet and say, “we WON’T be players. We CAN’T afford them” to be ponderous, tiresome and ill-informed.
The key is moving a pitcher’s salary, either Lowe or Vazquez. You do that, the whole thing falls in place rather easily.
Wayne in Utah (WWRFD)
October 27th, 2009
9:00 pm
reagan,
What is Fox’ position? Is he a catcher? A first baseman?
Not a critical question, but where do you think he would play. I would love to see us get a guy like him (I think).
reagan
October 27th, 2009
9:05 pm
Bruce (8:50)…..yes!……mostly plays outfield (perfect for our needs now) and 3rd (post-chipper) also HAS caught and played 1st (but not too much). Definitely has the power…….seems like a great match for OUR needs and in return for the cubs,,,,,and $ wise……and MIGHT let us jettison Lowe’s $. Willingham would be a pretty good match too. Both these guys are probably in the neighborhood of what we might realistically expect to get.
Bruce's Pearl
October 27th, 2009
9:07 pm
wayne in utah,I saw Jake play when he was at AA Tennessee.He played a lot of 1B in addition to catching.He probably would be best served as a DH in the American League,but would probably be servicable in left field or 1b.I think he played some OF last year for the Cubs.Again i think he would be a good addition if nothing else for the bench.
Gov Clinton Tyree
October 27th, 2009
9:07 pm
On LaRoche: I’m for giving him three years at, say, $8m per (total $24m). Here is my thinking.
Freeman won’t be ready in ‘10. Hopefully ‘11, but he’s been having adjustment issues, first at Gwinnett, now in AZ.
I don’t know how good Freeman will ever be, really. I know LaRoche is a .270/.360/.480 25/90 guy with real good defense. I can use that.
If Freeman hits .340 with power at Gwinnett next year, you move LaRoche to make room for him. LaRoche in his early 30s for a fairly modest salary should be attractive to somebody.
Soph
October 27th, 2009
9:08 pm
I’ve never been big on LeBron. He’s really good but he’s always irritated me – since his high school days.
David O'Brien
October 27th, 2009
9:14 pm
Soph, I’m a big Shaq fan. Always enjoyed his personality, and he was the game’s dominant center for quite a while.
LeBron’s obviously a terrific player. I’ll leave it at that.