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N8
October 26th, 2009
5:34 pm
Daslied, come on man that’s rude. At least the Gatorade canister provides ice-cold drinks on a hot day. Which is a helluva lot more than Norton had to offer at any point this year.
P-Town Brave
October 26th, 2009
5:34 pm
Joe-
And I betcha that won’t matter worth a crap if the Cardinals don’t offer him within 3-5 Mil what the Yankees and Red Sox will offer him come FA time…
Daslied-
Too late, Big Z from the Cubs already took that out earlier in the year
Richie
October 26th, 2009
5:38 pm
So now that the Padres supposedly “have to” trade Gonzalez, is their any reason a deal with the Padres can’t be re-visited? I would love to see that power and defense in our infield. I know we are all high on Freeman but that is a lot of power on the corner. We haven’t had that kind of power at 1B in over 10 years since Big Cat. You could put him after Chipper, Escobar after him and BMac after Escobar. That is a pretty good 3-6 lineup there. Lots of RBI opportunities. Thoughts?
Jake W.
October 26th, 2009
5:38 pm
“I personally am hoping they cut Church and keep Kelly”-ugaaccountant
I am actually of the belief they should keep Church over KJ simply because of his flexibility in the outfield. I know the braves say Infante can play outfield but I really don’t trust the guy as a backup out there. Assuming they get at least one corner outfielder and Heyward starts the season in triple A, I like the idea of Church sharing time with Diaz. One of our problems when we had Schafer up is that he had no legitimate backup.
Jeff R
October 26th, 2009
5:42 pm
I doubt Wren keeps Johnson. For what? Ride the pines for a lot more dough than Conrad or another utilityman would fetch.
And if you’re Johnson, why would you want to be demoted? He’s got to think that he has a chance somewhere in the league to start. I’d guess he’d rather move on, under the circumstances.
Travis
October 26th, 2009
5:42 pm
I’m pretty sure FW would have some input on the new manager and he doesn’t appear to have that “stick with em till they sink or swim” type attitude like Bobby. Even though the Braves are not as loose in the clubhouse (no loud music etc.) as some teams are, a Jim leyland type guy might be a welcome change. But younger.
Joe
October 26th, 2009
5:43 pm
re: P-Town Brave
I doubt he will leave St. Louis for NYY or Boston. I don’t think his game will fit well in The American League he is a National League type of guy. The only team I can see Pujols leaving St Louis for is New York Mets cause they can afford to give him a boat load of money and he probably would like to be in The New York Market and become the superstar player they need to go along with beltran and santana..
tyger
October 26th, 2009
5:44 pm
Barry Bonds….or Bust!!
If you aint talking Barry Bonds, you aint talkin ’bout sht!
This is the worst disgrace to American sport since Jack Johnson, but that was the 1900’s.
You ought to be screaming at the top of your lungs about the collusion, collective bargaining and the owners monopoly on baseball.
If their going to pull stunts like this shouldn’t they lose their anti-trust protection?
Why are black pro athletes guilty until proven innocent?
What kinda boot licken writer are you?
jeffrey d
October 26th, 2009
5:45 pm
Boot lickin?
Travis
October 26th, 2009
5:46 pm
What the heck was that?
N8
October 26th, 2009
5:47 pm
“Look at the Chipper Jones case he could have gone elsewhere a long time ago but he wanted to stay with the braves cause of Bobby Cox.
Sorry dude. Gotta stop you right there before you hurt yourself.
Did it ever occur to you that maybe, just maybe Chipper thought that staying with Smoltz, Glavine and Maddux might give him a pretty good chance to win every year?
How come Burnett didn’t want to come to Atlanta because of Cox? How come Smoltz didn’t want to stay in Atlanta for Cox? How come Hampton didn’t want to stay with Cox? What about Farnsworth? Furcal (who had played for him), wasn’t that concerned, was he?
Chipper stayed in Atlanta because the team always had a good chance to win, and because MANY things made him comfortable (Bobby being one of them, but not the ONLY one).
Why is Pujols possibly talking about leaving then? What if Holiday bolts?
Jeff R
October 26th, 2009
5:47 pm
I think Church is too pricey. Would imagine Wren is searching for ways to raise the dough to sign Hudson, resign LaRoche or snag a solid short-term replacement at 1B and sign or acquire a real righty power threat.
In other words, Wren will let Church and Johnson go and try to move Lowe, both for his trade value and to offload his contract (or the better part of it).
nolie
October 26th, 2009
5:49 pm
Who do you think replaces Norton? I said Canizares OR a 5th OF. Are you thinking anyone else is a candidate for that spot? (Uga Acc)
I think it’s too early to have a good idea. It will depend a lot on who Wren is able to acquire at what positions. If they get a good hitting OFer, or 1bM or retain Roache, any guesses right now are probably meaningless.
That said I think it is unlikely to be Canizares. They’ve had him for two years and only brought him up for a few days because of an injury situation. He has very limited versatility and really is a very poor defensive player. The dude can hit and likely would hit pretty well in the bigs, I just think they like more versatility than he provides. If they keep him at all I’m gonna guess that he stays in AAA as an emergency backup. He is also considered by many in baseball to be 2-5 years older than listed, not that it means much as a sub even if true.
Like I said, I agree that 2010 might have 5 OFers at least part of the time until the younguns settle in somewhere.
¿quien sabe? It’s what makes the off season bearable, right?
Travis
October 26th, 2009
5:53 pm
This is shaping up to be a very interesting off-season on the blog. A lot of good back and forth. And there is Lentz. Well can’t have everything.
N8
October 26th, 2009
5:54 pm
“That is a pretty good 3-6 lineup there. Lots of RBI opportunities. Thoughts?”
Where does the RH power come from? Diaz? Escobar? Prado?
It’s been made pretty clear, that the Braves are looking for a RH bat for the middle of their order. Add to the fact that Heyward, Schafer and Freeman are LH, so the next wave of guys coming up are not RH…
I think that Gonzalez is a great talent and would be a nice addition. Very nice. But I think we’d have to give up too much to get him.
That package probably starts with JJJ or Hanson, along with Freeman and possibly Schafer.
It would take a LOT. I realize that Kevin Towers isn’t there anymore, but if they were insisting on Hanson for Peavy, what are they going to ask for if the trade Gonzalez? I think at this point (and at the point of the trade last year), that Gonzalez is the better player.
Since Vazquez can’t be traded to the west coast. I think the asking price will be too high for what Wren is trying to do. Might as well just overpay for LaRoche (better defensively), than to give up a guy like JJJ.
There are two guys I’d give up JJJ for. One is Kevin Youkilis. He’s RH. He plays 1B, and could play 3B when Chipper retires. The other is Pujols. I don’t think I need to explain why.
Jeff R
October 26th, 2009
5:54 pm
nolie, haven’t checked recently, but I thought Canizares whiffs a lot? With little in the way of defensive skills, he’s not much of a 1B backup. And if I’m correct that he strikes out too frequently, he’d make a poor candidate for pinch hitter.
Roger
October 26th, 2009
5:57 pm
What do you think about fans buying the Braves from Liberty Media in the same way fans own soccer teams in the English Premier League
Joe
October 26th, 2009
6:00 pm
re: N8
of course chipper also stayed cause of the other surrounding players had on the team I already knew that.
Burnett took The NYY offer to be closer to his family that lives in Maryland I remember him saying that.
N8
October 26th, 2009
6:07 pm
“Burnett took The NYY offer to be closer to his family that lives in Maryland I remember him saying that.”
I wonder if Chipper has any family in Atlanta?
David O'Brien
October 26th, 2009
6:13 pm
I was just doing some stats for a World Series preview. Check out Sabathia’s overall stats since Aug. 8, regular season and postseason: 11-1 with a 1.94 ERA in 14 starts (team 13-1), with 103 strikeouts, 27 walks and 71 hits allowed in 97-2/3 innings (seven innings per start).
Damn.
TnBrian
October 26th, 2009
6:15 pm
When DOB brought up Cruz a few blogs ago, that talk has faded. Look at a team like Texas & what their needs are. I’m not, but you can. Off the top of my head I’d say they would like another starter & maybe a OF, MLB or minor league kid. Wonder what an offer of Medlen/Schafer/B.Jones would do? Really, some will say that’s too much for Cruz, but Hanson is better than Medlen & Heyward is projected to be much better than Schafer. Cruz is like 28/29 years old so he still has plenty left and he won’t come cheap. Lets face it, Atlanta needs a cleanup hitter. A real, legit masher.
I think this way Chipper can do his high average type swing & McCann can go for the gaps with occasional power without feeling the pressure to clear the yard every time up. Resigning LaRoche would be a huge bonus.
nolie
October 26th, 2009
6:15 pm
nolie, haven’t checked recently, but I thought Canizares whiffs a lot? (Jeff R)
he really doesn’t K all that often for a big dude , not as much as say Roachie does. Let me look it up to be sure
yeah he only K’ed about 70 times in each AAA season -about 14%-so that isn’t really a problem. I think he could be a Norton replacement, I’m just not sure it’s all that likely…depending again on who Wren acquires.
Braveheart
October 26th, 2009
6:19 pm
Did it ever occur to you that maybe, just maybe Chipper thought that staying with Smoltz, Glavine and Maddux might give him a pretty good chance to win every year?
Gotta stop you right there N8. Chipper didn’t start settling for hometown discounts until Maddux and Glavine were gone. When those 3 were still here, Chipper got a 6 year contract in 2000 worth $90 million with two options in 2007 and 2008 that would have pushed that sucker to 8 years, $120 million. That contract when adjusted for 7 years of free agency dollars inflation ain’t much different per year than what Arod got from the Yankees two seasons ago. Consider that the Braves, the second highest bidder for Arod back in 2000, supposedly offered Arod 10 years, $126 million right about the time Chipper got that contract. Chipper was getting top dollar when the Big Three were still here. It wasn’t until 2005 after Maddux and Glavine left because of financial concerns, and Chipper wanted to keep Furcal around and saw that the Braves were having money problems and didn’t want to get booted out the door like Maddux and Glavine (and like they kept trying to do with Andruw who they kept trying to trade because he was making alot too), that Chipper started agreeing to defer money and take hometown discounts so that he could remain a Brave.
Jeff R
October 26th, 2009
6:22 pm
DOB, Sabathia’s on a roll, but maybe it comes to an end in Game 1 of the series. I hope so.
TnBrian
October 26th, 2009
6:23 pm
Wren should go all out for Bobby’s final year. That’s just my opinion & not saying GM’s don’t try & do that every offseason, but especially for the old man’s final year. Gotta get the old booger picker another ring. Joking about Cox there, but he can do some diggin for gold, for sure.
McFann Ô
October 26th, 2009
6:24 pm
Bay Area Steve–
Oh, I wasn’t knocking the Gecko…I was knocking the cavemen and that gosh-darn pothole. The Gecko’s pretty funny…although the latest commercial kinda irritates me for some reason–”That’s easy for him, he’s a cute little lizard.” “Uh, gecko, actually…” Geckos are lizards. They’re not like newts or salamanders, who are actually amphibians…
Braveheart
October 26th, 2009
6:24 pm
Texas doesn’t need a second or third baseman considering they have Kinsler and Young, but I was thinking the other day I would love it if they traded Prado straight up for Nelson Cruz just because it would blow the mind of our boy Bobby’s
McFann Ô
October 26th, 2009
6:25 pm
TnBrian & McCann can go for the gaps with occasional power without feeling the pressure to clear the yard every time up.
*Twinkle in eyes* Yeah…
David O'Brien
October 26th, 2009
6:26 pm
What do you think about fans buying the Braves from Liberty Media in the same way fans own soccer teams in the English Premier League — Roger
Go for it. If you and 499 other fans kick it about $1 million apiece, I bet you could get Liberty to seriously consider the offer.
Or get 5,000 fans to come up with $100,000 apiece so they could claim ownership of, ahem, one-fiftieth of one percent of a major league team. Shouldn’t be too difficult in this economy, right?
Hey, Roger, seriously: In theory, I love the idea as much as you do. In reality, it’d never work.
As someone once said, there’s a big difference, a financial gap, between rich and wealthy. Many players are rich. Team owners are wealthy.
TnBrian
October 26th, 2009
6:27 pm
Guys like Sabathia & Fielder blow my mind. How does a human being that fat sustain that kind of energy? It’s simple… fat wears the body down a lot quicker, right? I’m sorry, I watched some emaciated kids in Somalia on TV earlier picking rice off the dirt then imaging fat asses in this country eating 5 meals a day.
Braveheart
October 26th, 2009
6:28 pm
The only thing that’s ever been funny about those Cavemen is that some retarded network exec greenlighted a sitcom a few years ago based on those completely unfunny characters
McFann Ô
October 26th, 2009
6:30 pm
Braveheart–
Haha, yeah, I remember when they did that. Huh, was fortunate enough to never see an episode…thing musta bombed, eh?
ugaaccountant
October 26th, 2009
6:31 pm
JeffR – I agree with or at least understand most of what you’ve been posting. However, what does whiffing a lot have to do with anything? Not picking on you, but our whole fan base seems to have this idea that a high strikeout guy is the worst thing out there.
Ryan Howard k’s a lot, so does Mark Reynolds and other power hitters. Does their strikeout rate make them players you wouldn’t want? Just remember, a strikeout with a runner on 1b gets you 1 out. A weak grounder likely gets 2 outs. Sometimes a strikeout or a power hit is exactly what the doctor ordered. With our team as a whole being power weak, I would think people would be warming to the idea of a power hitter, even with the “warts” of striking out.
Canizares would provide exactly what Norton was supposed to provide, a bat off the bench that has moderate power and a reasonable chance at batting .270. He also would play the field about as frequently as Norton, i.e. if everyone else was unavailable. I’d certainly prefer someone better, but in the interest of saving money I could see it being him. I suppose Brooks Conrad or Brandon Jones might be this player instead, but I liked what I saw from Canizares more (AAA and Majors).
CB
October 26th, 2009
6:35 pm
DOB,if it goes to 500 million fans with $1,count me in.
P. W. Hjort
October 26th, 2009
6:37 pm
There are two guys I’d give up JJJ for. One is Kevin Youkilis. He’s RH. He plays 1B, and could play 3B when Chipper retires. The other is Pujols.
You wouldn’t trade Jurrjens for Longoria or J. Upton or Travis Snyder or Hanley or Braun etc…?
I mean, not that any of those are realistic scenarios, the other clubs would probably laugh their faces off at that offer, but there are really only 2 players you would trade Jurrjens for?
Braveheart
October 26th, 2009
6:45 pm
The MVP in 1998? No one cared. It was treated like a consolation prize. Big deal. These awards are all meaningless marketing gimmicks anyway meant to suck little boys into loving the game. Mac was the King, but the Sammy Story couldn’t be ignored, so Mac got the crown, and Sammy had to settle for the MVP as a consolation prize. Mac was the prom queen, Sammy was the homecoming queen.
Sammy was arguably more valuable to the sport that year anyway, even if McGwire was better. If it was just Mac in solo pursuit of that record, it could have gotten really ugly just because of his personality and because even then everyone knew he was a roids freak.
The way Bonds got treated in 2001 could have been the way Mac got treated in 2001 if he was flying solo with that pursuit and left alone with his personality to fend the media off – and heaven forbid if it was just Mac going against The Natural, The Chosen One, The Golden Child Griffey. That summer could have gotten real ugly if it was just Mac or if it was Mac vs. Griffey.
The steroids thing could have broken right then in 1998 if Sammy didn’t serve as a likable buffer for McGwire, and if Sammy didn’t warm Big Mac up and make him much more likable as well. McGwire got the record, but Sammy was the one who made that summer so magical and electrifying. The irony of course is that all these years later McGwire is the one who seems like a good guy and teammate while Sammy seems like a turd. Didn’t seem like that whatsoever back then though. McGwire and baseball needed Sammy to be what he was that summer, so McGwire got the home run crown, and Sammy settled for the MVP as a consolation prize.
HAL
October 26th, 2009
6:59 pm
if we get a type b for loaf justt make sure the guy there draft is actually alive and we made out like bandits lol
CB
October 26th, 2009
7:20 pm
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N8
October 26th, 2009
7:27 pm
Braveheart…. You don’t think Chipper could have gotten more money on the open market? Smoltz took a “hometown” discount, to stay with the Braves and close, when the Yankees were offering for him to start.
If you think the Yankees wouldn’t have swooped (or the Orioles – they were the big overspenders in the 90’s), had Chipper not signed quick.
But either way. You’re helping make my argument for me, whether you know it or not. The Braves offered Chipper a LOT of money and he stayed. By that point, he was very entrenched into the Atlanta community and has never really seriously threatened to leave.
All of those guys (Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Andruw, Chipper, Javy, Neagle, McGriff) took less money to stay on a really good team than they could have gotten on the open market in the mid-90’s.
Or are you forgetting that 4 months after Chipper signed his 6 year, 90 million dollar deal, that Arod signed his 10 year 252 million dollar deal?
Believe me. Had Chipper waited until December to sign that extension, 6 years 90 million wouldn’t even have been CLOSE to the highest offer after the fallout of the Arod deal settled.
What’s odd about that is that the Braves were rumored to be the 2nd highest offer to Arod at 6 years 120 million. Imagine that. A day and age where Maddux, Glavine and Smoltz were all still on the team, they sign Chipper to 6 years 90 million and STILL make a 20 million per year offer to Arod.
As Archie and Edith would say: THOSE WERE THE DAYS………..
N8
October 26th, 2009
7:32 pm
Also, Manny’s deal was for 8 years 160 million. Also in December 2000. So even with the 15 million dollar options in 07 and 08, Chipper’s deal was STILL 40 million less than Manny’s contract was for.
Still think he didn’t take a hometown discount on that contract? The mere fact that he chose to sign that deal in August, rather than wait to hit the open market, tells me he was comfortable in Atlanta and had no interest looking elsewhere.
Damn. Forgot how stacked that stacked that free agent class would have been if Chipper had gone to the open market. Also, Jeter signed his 10 year 189 million dollar extension in February of 01, after Manny and Arod signed.
N8
October 26th, 2009
7:39 pm
Listening to KC Sports talk radio, and they just announced that the scheduled Bruce Springsteen concert tonight in KC has been cancelled/postponed due to a death in his immediate family. For all the Boss fans out there.
N8
October 26th, 2009
7:45 pm
Hey DOB, aren’t the G.B. Packers (where your boy used to play), publicly owned? To what extent I don’t know. Didn’t they use to split their home games between Green Bay and Milwaukee?
David O'Brien
October 26th, 2009
7:52 pm
N8, yes the Packers are publicly owned. Different time and era, when that was initiated. Here’s something about it from their website.
Shareholders
Green Bay Packers, Inc., has been a publicly owned, non-profit corporation since Aug. 18, 1923, when original articles of incorporation were filed with Wisconsin’s secretary of state.
A total of 4,750,937 shares is owned by 112,120 stockholders — none of whom receives any dividend on the initial investment.
The corporation is governed by a board of directors and a seven-member executive committee.
One of the more remarkable business stories in American history, the team is kept viable by its shareholders — its unselfish fans. Even more incredible, the Packers have survived during the current era, permeated by free agency and the NFL salary cap. And, thanks in large part to Brown County’s passage of the 2000 Lambeau Field referendum, the club will remain solvent and highly competitive well into the future due to its redeveloped stadium.
Fans have come to the team’s financial rescue on several occasions, including four previous stock sales: 1923, 1935, 1950 and 1997.
To protect against someone taking control of the team, the articles of incorporation prohibit any person from owning more than 200,000 shares.
abwright
October 26th, 2009
7:53 pm
ugaaccountant, 5:27 pm … “Who do you think replaces Norton?
I think the Braves sign Norton for 80% of his 2009 salary. I’m so sure about this, I’ll bet anyone a “pat on the back and a hearty handshake” that it is so.
N8
October 26th, 2009
7:59 pm
Cool. Thanks DOB. I wasn’t trying to argue with you stating that it could still work, or would work elsewhere. I just thought that I had heard that before. I’m sure FOX mentiones it everytime there’s a Packers game. Either before or after they told you how many pieces of TP Brett used earlier that morning.
It really is kind of cool. But I agree. Couldn’t work. Besides. Why would having many, many owners be any better than having a company like Liberty Media? I still think the best way for a sports team to be run is by one guy. Or a family like in Pittsburgh (if they’re still owned by many members of the Rooney family.
Wayne in Utah (WWRFD)
October 26th, 2009
8:02 pm
DOB
Sounds like the Hudson deal might come to fruition this week. Any other rumblings these days?
I think Ryan Freel might still be available.
Wayne in Utah (WWRFD)
October 26th, 2009
8:02 pm
A team can always use a guy who is willing to run through walls…..
cabravesfan
October 26th, 2009
8:12 pm
Well, I got my 8th “One (and only one!) FREE issue” of Chop Talk today…
Moe Berg
October 26th, 2009
8:16 pm
I agree that with Freel you get someone willing to go into a wall (actually two someone’s, since Freel comes with his imaginary friend Farney that he talks to). And he is right-handed. But he is not exactly a power bat. Probably not at the top of Wren’s list.
Wayne in Utah (WWRFD)
October 26th, 2009
8:21 pm
Moe
I don’t remember conversing with you in the past, so maybe your not familiar with the “Freel” chat of several years back. Freel is a running joke between me and some friends on the old blog.
(though, at times I have thought he would have been a good addition, but certainly not the power bat needed.)
Moe Berg
October 26th, 2009
8:23 pm
Wayne, Sorry, I missed the joke. Freel does make me laugh, though. I’ve only been around about a year and don’t post much. Just catch the blog here and there. Thus, not party to the running joke.
Wayne in Utah (WWRFD)
October 26th, 2009
8:25 pm
cabravesfan
Years ago, I moved to an area in the south. Went in to the local cable company to ask them to switch the cable coverage at our new home over to me (from the previous owners). I arrived a few minutes before 4pm, and was informed I would have to come back another day, as they were not going to be late going home just to set up my cable.
I told them I was not coming back, and that they should send a rep out to switch things over. They never did, and for 5 years (until we moved), we got free cable from the yahoos there!
Once, the cable went out in our neighborhood. One of the boys wanted us to call them to fix it, but I didn’t dare. It came back on a few hours later.
Vinings Jim
October 26th, 2009
8:28 pm
cabravesfan – clearly, you need to realize that they expect you to do the right thing…
CB
October 26th, 2009
8:28 pm
Manny Acta was fired from the Nationals with a horrible record-now he is the new manager in Cleveland after turning down an offer from the Astros. How did he get so smart after being fired from the Nats?
Doc Holiday
October 26th, 2009
8:29 pm
I think the phillies will eat the yankees alive…………Im picking them 4-1………………4-2 long shot.
I know lots of you hate the phillies, but lets face it guys, this guys have own it, they have worked their axxes. They have not bought up the championship as much as the yanks.
Lets be fair:
Howard vs Arod——– Howard defensively + offense is tied (I rather have howard if I had to pick)
Tex vs Utley ——– Id say this is a tie
JRo vs Jetter ———- rollins beats him defensively
Victorino vs damon———victorino better defense …………faster………..damon has more power, maybe a better hitter………..Id say its a tie.
ruiz is playing much better than posada and is much better defensively
Cano vs werth ———Id say werth has more power………….Id give the edge to him
swicher vs 3b———they are about the same
cabrera vs ibanez ———-no match
cabravesfan
October 26th, 2009
8:32 pm
Wayne-
That works for me
RHR
October 26th, 2009
8:32 pm
Dang, whats up N8’s butt today?
McFann Ô
October 26th, 2009
8:34 pm
cabravesfan Well, I got my 8th “One (and only one!) FREE issue” of Chop Talk today…
I got my November issue today, too! It’s my last issue…but I’m getting a new subscription for Christmas. (Oops…did I say that?)
RHR
October 26th, 2009
8:36 pm
I’m writing to complain to chop talk. Thats BS, that is by farrrrrr the most expensive subscription I have – I get SI (52 issues) and ESPN (26 issues) combined for about $15 less than 12 issues of chop talk. And they cut me off when my check got there like 3 days after my last subscription ran out ? And I’ve been subscribing for years? But they send somebody in L.A. 8 free issues? Hell to the no.
CB
October 26th, 2009
8:37 pm
cab, VJ probably bought you a years subscription and is laughing every time you tell him about it.
stew
October 26th, 2009
8:39 pm
raleighbravefan,
I saw Willie play for most of his career although not too much with the NY Giants. He was the greatest player I ever saw. However, the greatest centerfielder I ever saw was Andruw. He made diving catches routinely and covered more ground than anyone else. In addition, if his career didn’t go sour the past 3 years he’d be threatening 600 hrs someday. It’s a shame because he deserves to be in the HOF but he needs about 120 hrs to crack the 500 club.
cabravesfan
October 26th, 2009
8:40 pm
VJ-
I am trying to do the right thing and not get more issues but they keep sending them to me! Not my fault
CB-
Somehow I doubt it
Mount Cody, Prince Fielder, and Ryan Howard
October 26th, 2009
8:41 pm
I was just doing some stats for a World Series preview. Check out Sabathia’s overall stats since Aug. 8, regular season and postseason: 11-1 with a 1.94 ERA in 14 starts (team 13-1), with 103 strikeouts, 27 walks and 71 hits allowed in 97-2/3 innings (seven innings per start).
Damn.
Big dudes get it done.
cabravesfan
October 26th, 2009
8:41 pm
RHR-
Sorry! Not sure what I did, but they seem to like me
Vinings Jim
October 26th, 2009
8:42 pm
CB – I can read the AJC here – don’t need glossy photos of the “Cute guys” like some other people…
N8
October 26th, 2009
8:42 pm
Up my butt? Really? Am I acting any different than normal?
Explain.
Bob Wickman, Jonathan Broxton, Corky Miller and Charlie Weis
October 26th, 2009
8:42 pm
Not always!
RHR
October 26th, 2009
8:43 pm
Sorry N8, you seem irritable today in the words I’ve read.
Vinings Jim
October 26th, 2009
8:45 pm
RHR – she must offer benefits to the circulation department…
RHR
October 26th, 2009
8:45 pm
A team can always use a guy who is willing to run through walls….
We’re signing the Kool Aid man?
Oh Yeah!
Vinings Jim
October 26th, 2009
8:47 pm
cabravesfan – just reread that – so sorry, darling – way too mean…
RHR
October 26th, 2009
8:47 pm
Do they know she’s a swedish blonde? Thats probably it.
cabravesfan
October 26th, 2009
8:47 pm
VJ-
you say that like there is something wrong with pics of cute guys
RHR
October 26th, 2009
8:48 pm
Dont you wish there were a delete button here, Jim? LOL
cabravesfan
October 26th, 2009
8:49 pm
VJ-
Jealous?
RHR-
Whatever works
Vinings Jim
October 26th, 2009
8:49 pm
RHR – but the Swedish is just a fraction of the whole…
P. W. Hjort
October 26th, 2009
8:53 pm
TYIB Awards Voting.
Vazquez, Bobby, Wren, and Hanson are all up for awards.
RHR
October 26th, 2009
8:54 pm
Too late for sucking up now, Jim. I see at least one night on the couch in your immediate future.
P. W. Hjort
October 26th, 2009
8:55 pm
The only Braves AFL action today was Lee Hyde pitching an inning in relief, allowing 1 hit.
Vinings Jim
October 26th, 2009
8:57 pm
RHR – I will admit – not sorry at all – and she knew it…
And I’ve been sleeping on a couch for three years – no big deal (but I’m used to sharing with a chihuahua – not Nala)
cabravesfan
October 26th, 2009
8:57 pm
RHR-
He’d have to share it with my dog…
Vinings Jim
October 26th, 2009
8:58 pm
RHR – see – I knew what she would say (and, this time we did not share in advance)
ncscoots
October 26th, 2009
9:02 pm
Many players are rich. Team owners are wealthy.
Egg-zackly. Like the man said, there’s rich, big rich, Texas rich, and then there’s wealthy. And owners don’t stay wealthy by subscribing to the labor theory of value as it pertains to baseball, LOL.
Yet, fans who mostly judge the finances of a team by the stated player payroll have zero clue as to the cost of research and development, infrastructure, administration, or any other dang -ation. They just want ownership to come off their hip, spend big, and who cares if it opens up a sucking chest-wound of red ink for the poor soul who happens to sign the checks, LOL?
CB
October 26th, 2009
9:03 pm
PWH,I saw where Heyward was to be evaluated by team doctor tomorrow in Atlanta. I hope nothing serious.
Vinings Jim
October 26th, 2009
9:03 pm
Packing is so much fun…
P. W. Hjort
October 26th, 2009
9:03 pm
Jeff Lyman has a new blog post up.
He’ll answer your questions, too!
N Nine
October 26th, 2009
9:06 pm
He’d have to share it with my dog
AH yes, the dog! We all love the famous drunk dog. She’s got one strong liver and a ridiculous tolerance….
P. W. Hjort
October 26th, 2009
9:07 pm
I saw where Heyward was to be evaluated by team doctor tomorrow in Atlanta. I hope nothing serious.
Most people down-played it, originally, calling it a “glute strain”. Now they’re calling it “tendinitis” (tendinitis n. it hurts and we don’t know why). I don’t know what to think, but I’m pretty concerned. I don’t know if we’ll be seeing more Jason Heyward in the AFL. They’re aren’t that many games and if he needs to rehab or anything, he probably won’t have much time to get back on the field. Oh well, I’m still setting the over/under at June 1 for his MLB call-up and taking the under.
Vinings Jim
October 26th, 2009
9:08 pm
Wow, N Nine – I had even forgotten that…
Vinings Jim
October 26th, 2009
9:09 pm
Apparently, the fruits of my packing have started reaching their intended destination…
cabravesfan
October 26th, 2009
9:09 pm
N Nine-
I’d forgotten about that
She’s been on her best behavior of late…really cut down on the drinking 
Winterville
October 26th, 2009
9:13 pm
Anybody got any clever ideas for a male Halloween costume? I’m drawing a creative blank. I went as a beer pong table two years ago and last year I went as an asian lady who sells flowers to the drunks in downtown Athens.
P. W. Hjort
October 26th, 2009
9:15 pm
Anybody got any clever ideas for a male Halloween costume?
Art Vandelay.
Doc Holiday
October 26th, 2009
9:17 pm
I dont see no problem about the phillies winning it all…………I hate the fact………..but they deserve it more than us and more than the yanks and more than the dodgers or angels……………….so what are we talking here? Let the phillies win it. What we have to do is get better and let them know that WE ARE BACK……….when we are.
N Nine
October 26th, 2009
9:19 pm
cabravesfan That’s good! You’re one proud owner..I’d still say there’s nothing wrong with a drunk dog passed out on his designated couch. What’s more to love than that!?! :O
cabravesfan
October 26th, 2009
9:21 pm
N Nine-
I agree…although the couch is not very big…and she’s a stubborn drunk
Wayne in Utah (WWRFD)
October 26th, 2009
9:30 pm
Doc
To be perfectly honest, I will have a hard time getting too excited about the World Series. I don’t have a dog in the hunt, so my interest is minimal.
You are correct about the Phillies deserving to be in the post season more than the Braves, but whether they are better than the Yankees has yet to be revealed.
Winterville
October 26th, 2009
9:33 pm
PWHjort
None of my friends would get it. Most of them watched Seinfeld but not like I did.
P. W. Hjort
October 26th, 2009
9:38 pm
Winterville -
It was mostly a joke. What would you even dress like? Do we even know what Art Vandelay looks like?
RHR
October 26th, 2009
9:38 pm
winterville – A friend of my daughter went as “Risky Business” last year and it was so cute. (Wayfarers, long sleeve oxford, white boxer shorts, white crew socks)