I think some here know me … I DO NOT want the Phillies in the World Series again. Like to think we were the last NL Pennant Winners to do so …
I think our club has great promise for next year and more. As a man in his late 30’s I wouldnt mind seeing a classic 70’s World Series Matchup that I grew up watching … Yankees vs. Dodgers … and of course Fox TV would lose their minds on that, wouldnt they? The two best markets in the USA?
Geeeeezzzz… I guess thats why they are the World Series Champs…. i would love to see the Phillies and the Yanks go at each other…. That would be the best World Series if you ask me. Sluggers after sluggers …. a classic Game 7 i would think.
Hey, it’s our friend Chip screaming his lungs away! He’s doing quite well in his national audition. Could be possibly get lucky and have some fool take the guy away from the Braves?
Phillies have a good offense, we knew that and regardless of what happens in this postseason with them I still feel that given some improvements to this team(outfield, 1st base, and bullpen)I see no reason why we can’t compete with them next year for the division. Only twice did our starters give up more than 4 runs to that good offense and once was that earlier start by Jojo Reyes and that start Hudson had against them in September. We won the season series but could have easliy won more games against them had our offense been better. Much better than that 2008 season against them.
How ya been? I find it interesting, that some of us find it easy to tick folks off (I count myself in that group). This eyeball kid starts out like a punk right from the start, offending some of the more respected bloggers.
I’ve been down in San Diego for the past few days in meetings, but still suffering effects of a bout w/ the flu last week. Just wishing I was in the familiar confines of home right about now.
Dow at 10K. A little scary though, as I really don’t see there being too much of a recovery. (surely not in my bidnezz)
I think it is more dollar driven than anything.
Got about 1/4 of my 401K in a self-directed account. Made about 7% in September on my portion, but so far in October, about even. Any hot tips (beyond stashing it under the mattress!!!)?
“Why is it that whenever a player leaves Atlanta and goes to another team he is an instant success. However when a really great player comnes to Atlanta they go downhill. Oh it couldn’t be that sorry excuse for a manager, Bobby Cox, now could it? That boob Cox should be arrested and charged with impersonating a major leauge manager.” — Rick, October 15th, 2009, 10:16 pm.
I think the exact opposite many, many players former Braves have no where near the amount of success they experienced with Atlanta. Look at the prospect we dealt for Hudson. What about A. Marte who we turned into Jiar Jurgens. Other players that did not out perform their Atlanta days include:
M. Giles
J. Rocker
J. Estrada
R. Gant
E. Renteria
R. Langerhans
W. Betimet
S. Thorman
W Aybar
S. Avery
K. Merker
R. Furcal
A. Jones
T. Glavine
G. Maddux
J. Smoltz
Thats just off the top of my head.
Craig Sager (sp) sure dissed Lidge during that interview. Didn’t say goodbye, good luck or kiss my azz; just walked away from him and over to Ibanez. What a doofus.
DOB on the other blog when you announced new bloggage, you stated “let the pigeons fly”. After catching up on Fast Forward tonight, I’m just glad all the crows didn’t fall dead from the sky!
As for Hamels? Scary, isn’t it? And to think, some Phillies fans were griping that Manuel was going with Lee in game one of the Rockies series? Unreal.
Wayne, I don’t know sh!t about economics, so I shouldn’t even bother responding, but don’t you think the DOW getting back to 10,000 might lead to people feeling more free to spend again soon, thus helping the rest of the economy? I dunno. I really don’t. But maybe alot of folks are like my pops, who is about ten or so years from retirement, and who almost had a heart attack when he saw his savings cut nearly in half by the market going in the toilet, thus stopping him from spending and borrowing against his savings. Getting it back to 10 again makes him breathe a little easier, thus maybe allowing him to spend a bit more. But he’s still cautious. Get it to 13, or 15, 16, and he’ll start believing again that he’ll be okay when he retires and maybe start spending freely again. I hope so. Hate when I go over there and instead of raiding his overflowing fridge like I’ve done all my life, I feel compelled to fill his fridge for him because he’s gone a bit overboard with being such a tightwad.
I am afraid if Matty isn’t used in a trade, he will start off in one corner, unless Heyward is put in the lineup from the get go (which is what I personally hope happens). We need to not worry about hurting a guys psyche, and just let him play ball.
David Wells brings nothing to this TBS studio show. And as hard as they’re trying to replicate the sort of loose, informative and very entertaining vibe that TBS’ NBA studio show has with Ernie, Barkley and Kenny Smith, it just doesn’t work with these baseball guys. I mean, the show’s OK, but that’s all. Just OK.
You can’t manfacture that chemistry that Barkley and Kenny and Ernie have. They just caught the proverbial lightning in the bottle with that trio.
Your dad and I sound like we are in the same boat. I am about 10 years from retirement, and I lost 60% last fall. Huge. I am normally an optimistic person, but the way our guys in DC are spending money these days (all of them are wreckless with our tax money, not one party or the other), it scares the sheeyt out of me sometimes.
They are going to hit us BIG time with a boat load of new taxes. If there was somewhere else to move to, I would be gone already……
The way our leaders are running our country, we don’t look anything like the US of A that we were when I was a kid. We are more like the USS of A. Give me security, or give me death!
If we don’t get a better leadoff hitter, who would you go with? Escobar? Prado? Diaz? Matty stole a few bases this year. He doesn’t walk too much, but his walk rate did increase this season. He might be the man for the spot.
Agreed on Wells. There has got to be some better choices out there. Whatever happened to Spaceman Bill Lee???
Has Dennis Eckersley’s hair changed AT ALL in the past 20 years? Put some sunglasses, a flashy shirt and a Member’s Only jacket on that guy and he could be Bernie from A Weekend at Bernie’s.
Eck is part of one of my favorite baseball highlights of alltime. The Gibson HR. The HR was impressive and chilling enough. But my favorite part is Eck mouthing “WOW” as Gibson rounds the bases. Just love stuff like that.
uga, you don’t think kj has the fast twitch muscles for second, but believe prado has those fast twitch muscles?
you’re right though. we need impact players at the three most important spots in the lineup – 1, 3, & 4. Too many complimentary players. It’s like having a basketball team without a point guard, shooting guard and big man. maybe the braves can piece together enough quality complimentary players in their lineup like the pistons earlier this decade to make a nice run, but chances are just like in the nba, they’re gonna need a high impact core at the most critical lineup slots, and then just surround them with these nice complimentary players.
The Gibson HR off Eck was the most memorable sports moment I have ever experienced. The TV guys were talking about how Gibson was not available, and I am sitting on my couch saying, “are you kidding me”, if the opportunity comes up, he will be available. Next thing you see is him emerging from the back of the dugout…. The rest is history.
20 years ago Saturday, was the day of the big quake. I was driving home from San Mateo to Fairfield that evening, listening to the pre-game show on the radio when it started shaking.
There were two ways that I go home from back then. I chose the back way. If I had chosen the other way, there is a pretty good chance I could of been under that bridge structure that collapsed in Oakland. Sobering experience.
Wayne, last year (maybe it was last spring), Lasorda was on Jim Rome and to hear him tell the story is entertainment at it’s best. If you can find an interview with him telling the story, tune in to it, it’s worth your time.
I miss Lasorda. MLB misses Lasorda. Nobody better for the game than Tommy Lasorda, imo. Man I hated that guy as a kid. Who the hell makes Pasqual Perez take of his bling? He was the perfect combination of old-school but wasn’t afraid to show his emotions and get excited when good things happened.
uga, that’s the thing though. he loves the breyer’s too. favorite brand, but it ain’t in his freezer anymore, and it’s just not my pop’s place when there ain’t breyer’s in the freezer and entenmann’s on the counter, so i go out and buy it for him. when i ask him why he doesn’t buy it anymore, he says if not stuffing my face with ice cream, donuts and coffee cake now means me i ain’t gonna be driving a school bus, and your mom ain’t gonna be a greeter at walmart trying to make ends meet when we should be walking on a beach in retirement, then i’ll go without the ice cream, coffee cake and donuts.
I’m sure y’all have this in your home towns as well. But around here all the dairy companies litter their packages with seasonal/regional sports teams.
I’m currently stuffing my face with some Wavy Lays chips and some french onion dip. Out of a container with Minnesota Vikings logos all over it. I swear it actually makes it taste worse. How the hell am I supposed to enjoy a midnight snack in a purple container with a viking on it?
OK, I got a second wind and went back through and fixed some typos. You folks are too nice for not pointing them out. (Or, more likely, most of you skipped through so quickly you didn’t see ‘em.)
Did not read this stupid blog…….I figure everyone is betting on the Phillies. I hate the Phillies and even more their stupid fans. If you live in Atlanta……..and you are a Phillies fan………..MOVE BACK TO PHILADELPHIA! Tim Hudson……….if you can win next year…….like EVERY game…..stay. Otherwise, LEAVE. GOOOOOOO HOKIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! beat the hell out of the ….GT stingers?
uga-brave: That show at the 40 Watt was one I won’t soon forget. If I had skipped it, then found out that a near-REM reunion broke out, I’d have kicked myself. But we were there, rode over on the bike on a beautiful night, rode back next morning. Terrific show.
Patterson Hood hopped on stage to sing with the band briefly during first set, and Mike Mills played a bunch of tunes with them from the Baseball Project album. Wynn and his wife, drummer Linda, were typically stellar, as were all the band members. But when Bill Berry jumped onstage — which Steve said they had no idea was going to happen until shortly before he did it — and played the three-song encore with them, including Ballad of John and Yoko … it was surreal. Three REM members up there (with Steve, Linda, et al) and Michael Stipe standing about 20 feet away from us at the back of the bar, in a stocking cap, watching the entire thing.
We were all hoping he’d go up and sing one or two songs, have the whole, original REM onstage. Alas, didn’t happen. But Stipe did go backstage afterward. I talked to Steve Wynn for quite a while between sets (he’s been good friends with Schultz since they were in high school in L.A., when both were budding sports writers for the school paper — before Wynn took a little more glamorous route and ended up forming Dream Syndicate in the ’80s).
What would you think about an addition like Xavier Nady? If he is healed up from his surgery, he could be a good bat to have. Would he be a decent first baseman if LaRoche can’t be retained?
DOB, if you had to give odds on LaRoche coming back, what would you give it? 50/50? 75/25?
DOB, hey if somebody would go get me some fresh homemade Wisconson beer-cheese soup, I might actually eat it out of Brett’s hands.
There is nothing more painful as a Chiefs fan living in Vikings land to look at the standings and see that 0-5 record for KC and the Vikings at 4-0 or whatever they are at, with Jared Allen leading the way on defense.
How is this for “bad GM’ing” by former Chiefs GM Carl Peterson. The Chiefs, after trading Jared Allen and letting Jimmy Wilkerson walk to the Bucs as a free agent, had 10 sacks last year (an all-time low record for any NFL franchise in a 16 game season). This year they have 6 sacks through 5 games. That’s 16 sacks in the last 21 games for my Chiefs.
Jared Allen has 6.5 sacks this year, after having 14.5 last year. Yup. Jared Allen has the same amount of sacks as the entire Chiefs team in the past 21 games. As for Wilkerson? He had 5 last year, and has 5 so far this year.
I appreciate your honesty on it. Damn, what I would give to be a fly on the wall during those meetings. How much fun would that be for a lt Braves fan. We could sign an agreement to guarantee our silence…… Nah, it would never work. But damn, it would be interesting for sure.
Since starting the 2007 season 4-3, my Chief have gone 2-27. The Detroit Lions who went 0-16 last year, have gone 3-26 in that same time. I know it’s just one win. But that sucks. So forgive me if I’m pumped for Spring Training already. Oh yeah. There’s that Tony Gonzalez guy we used to have too.
Drive by post…all my favorites are here I think…I’m high as a kite. Root canal in the morning. Lew has my address if the weejun gang wants to send flowers. good blog dob…thanks.
You all know I am a conservative SOB. I am not necessarily a RL fan. This isn’t about politics. You would think the NFL would WANT a guy like Limbaugh in it’s ownership ranks. Who gives a darn about these corporate ownership groups. It’s the Marge Schotts, the George Steinbrenners, the Al Davis’ of the world that makes for more interesting stories outside the normal “sports” stories.
Where is there a guy who loves the NFL more than Limbaugh? Too bad Roger G was influenced by the politics of the day. He would have been good for the game.
so your dad is from the money earnin’ mount vernon, and your mom is from the we don’t earn money because we already have all the money scarsdale, huh? no wonder you have an obsession with money. and, oh, if your last name ends in a vowel, ain’t no doubt you’re a stinkin’ guido. or so said the dirty mick.
uga, the only thing I remember about Eastern Airlines, was their slogan in the 80’s:
“The airline that doesn’t plan for the future….. doesn’t have a future.”
People losing their jobs isn’t funny. We just had our biggest local factory announce they’re shutting down after the first of the year, and the community will take a pretty big hit for it, including some relatives of mine and some close friends. So I get it.
But that slogan always killed me. As a guy that has a little background in advertising and marketing, I pay attention to slogans and crap like that.
Wayne in Utah,
Glad you made it through the quake ok. It does not seem like 20 years to me, more like 10. Guess that happens when you get old. There was a good piece in the SF Chronicle today by a current Giants writer, covering one of his first world series that day, describing all the cunfusion at the game in the days before cell phones, Internet, etc.
I learned the hard cold facts first hand in 1990, when I was dismissed from a 10.5 year career because my company layed of 25% of it’s workforce. Thanks Wayne for all your dedication, but we don’t need you anymore. BTW, here’s 3 months severance since we like you so much.
i hope when i come back tomorrow i dont have to read anything else about limbaugh. cough syrup is good though, i took a swig of my cough syrup tuesday night when my tooth first started hurting because i didnt have anytthing stronger to take but then i went to the dentist the next day and he hooked me up.
Yea, it was an interesting time. My work was in San Mateo, and I lived in Fairfield. A 74 mile commute that took 2 hours and 45 minutes BEFORE the quake. Afterwards, it was impossible to get over the Heyward/San Mateo bridge. I was surprised that more folks weren’t killed under that bridge collapse on Hwy 17. Every other day I have been in that traffic during rush hour, it was bumper to bumper. I think the game being played that day ended up causing a lot of folks to change their normal routes. I did. Probably ended up saving a lot of lives.
Can’t wait to see who BC picks as his (only) 3-4 “go to” guys next year! We could save some money and use it on a RH bat by eliminating 3-4 of the othe rbullpen guys, they just occupy space. JUst being facetious!
When the Braves traded for Gary Sheffield, they traded Brian Jordan, Odalis Perez, and Andrew Brown. Is there a similar threesome within the Braves organization now? If so, who? And who is the equivalent to Sheff that you would trade for?
I guess you could say McLouth is somewhat the equivalent of Jordan. In the three seasons before that trade, Jordan went .281/.334/.463/.797/100 OPS+ with 86 doubles, 7 triples, 65 homers, 26 stolen bases in 1787 plate appearances. In the last three seasons, McLouth has gone .265/.353/.467/.820/116 OPS+ with 94 doubles, 9 triples, 59 homers, 64 SBs in 1658 plate appearances. McLouth plays a more important defensive position as well.
Who counts as the Odaliz Perez these days? Would that be Medlen? Or does he need to show more? In 2001, Perez went 91.3 innings with a 4.91 ERA, 91 ERA+ and a 71/39 K/BB rate. This year, Medlen went 67.7 innings with a 4.26 ERA/ 98 ERA+ and a 72/30 K/BB rate.
But who counts as Sheffield? Would Prince Fielder count? In the three seasons before he was traded, Sheffield hit .312/.420/.571/1.001 with a 159 OPS+ in 1893 plate appearances. In the last 3 seasons, Fielder has hit .288/.393/.575 with a 150 OPS+ in 2094 plate appearances.
I can’t see McLouth, Medlen and some lower level pitching prospect the equivalent of Brown being enough to get Prince. The indications in Milwaukee are that they’d only break up the Prince/Braun duo if they were getting back an impact starting pitcher. Sheffield was also a 32 year old pain in the arse at the time. But whatever. It’s something to think and dream about, and least there is a reasonable precedent out there
Braveheart, I think the thing that’s missing from the equation more than the parts of the trade, is that while Fielder doesn’t appear to be completely content on playing his whole career in Brew-town, I don’t believe he’s demanded a trade or a new contract the way Shef did.
But I was thinking the same thing the other day. Having McLouth be trade bait, and getting somebody like Cameron and Fielder to stop-gap until Schafer and Freeman were ready.
Too early to speculate onn who’s coming our way, but never to early to speculate about who we might get rid of. lol
UGA, my cousin got through Iraq okay, but in his tour of Afghanistan, his unit got attacked, and he suffered injuries, and had to get airlifted out. He’s doing okay now though, and is expected to make a full recovery. Brave dude.
Limbaugh is a huge NFL fan? The guy who said it often looks like a fight between the Bloods and the Crips without weapons? If he says that about a league he loves, I’d hate to hear what he’d say about one he hates.
Also, didn’t Schott eventually get forced out of baseball? The only time I remember Steinbrenner being amusing was when the Yanks lost, just to see who would pay the price. And ask Raiders fans how much they love Al Davis’ leadership right now. Even Cuban’s antics are getting old. Tell me, who would you honestly want running your team, Arthur Blank, who tries to get good talent to run the club and conducts himself with dignity, or a group like the Atlanta Spirit? Even the faceless Liberty Media looks palatable by comparison. At least the only complaint you can levy at them is a lack of willingness to spend more money on the team. There’s already too many “personalities” in professional sports. I will not complain about people in sports who attract attention by doing their job well and not by shooting their mouths off.
Actually, that was one thing that really struck me about this blog. Hudson is a class act on and off the field and seems to be one of the more intelligent men in sport. You can bet he won’t react like a couple other pitchers have recently if the Braves can’t work out a way to keep him here.
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driver8
October 15th, 2009
10:59 pm
I think some here know me … I DO NOT want the Phillies in the World Series again. Like to think we were the last NL Pennant Winners to do so …
I think our club has great promise for next year and more. As a man in his late 30’s I wouldnt mind seeing a classic 70’s World Series Matchup that I grew up watching … Yankees vs. Dodgers … and of course Fox TV would lose their minds on that, wouldnt they? The two best markets in the USA?
Soph
October 15th, 2009
10:59 pm
G’night, McFann.
jeffrey d
October 15th, 2009
11:01 pm
Nice beard, Chan Ho
jeffrey d
October 15th, 2009
11:02 pm
B@stardo, Chan Ho…these Phillies got some insults in their bullpen don’t they?
Soph
October 15th, 2009
11:02 pm
Fuzzy.
Soph
October 15th, 2009
11:03 pm
Apparently, you’re not allowed to say fuzzE on here either.
Soph
October 15th, 2009
11:03 pm
It ate it when I spelled it the right way.
jeffrey d
October 15th, 2009
11:03 pm
fuzzy
jeffrey d
October 15th, 2009
11:04 pm
Yeah, me too. I don’t get why some of these non-offensive words aren’t accepted by the blog.
Soph
October 15th, 2009
11:07 pm
Bastardo?
Soph
October 15th, 2009
11:09 pm
Casey Blake’s beard is fuzzE too.
driver8
October 15th, 2009
11:16 pm
Didnt think the Phillies BP could do that … and now the Dodger BP which all of us thought would be there plus… is struggling
driver8
October 15th, 2009
11:19 pm
Geeeeezzzz… I guess thats why they are the World Series Champs…. i would love to see the Phillies and the Yanks go at each other…. That would be the best World Series if you ask me. Sluggers after sluggers …. a classic Game 7 i would think.
N Nine
October 15th, 2009
11:21 pm
Hey, it’s our friend Chip screaming his lungs away! He’s doing quite well in his national audition. Could be possibly get lucky and have some fool take the guy away from the Braves?
P.S. I enjoy taking cheap shots at the guy.
~N~
Vinings Jim
October 15th, 2009
11:28 pm
Dodgers trying to make it interesting after making it uninteresting,,,
Jake W.
October 15th, 2009
11:32 pm
Phillies have a good offense, we knew that and regardless of what happens in this postseason with them I still feel that given some improvements to this team(outfield, 1st base, and bullpen)I see no reason why we can’t compete with them next year for the division. Only twice did our starters give up more than 4 runs to that good offense and once was that earlier start by Jojo Reyes and that start Hudson had against them in September. We won the season series but could have easliy won more games against them had our offense been better. Much better than that 2008 season against them.
Danga
October 15th, 2009
11:33 pm
Still time for Lidge to lose this one…
Wayne in Utah
October 15th, 2009
11:39 pm
Danga
We can always hope! (for Lidge, that is)
Wayne in Utah
October 15th, 2009
11:40 pm
What a quandry! I want the Dodgers to win, but Manny to fail……
uga-brave
October 15th, 2009
11:42 pm
DOB,
that lead in is why i will always come back.
great stuff crusading day everyman.
abbsolute gold, kenny bana. seinfeld stuff.
uga-brave
October 15th, 2009
11:45 pm
wayne,
what is up my good friend. i have been reading lately but not posting.
who in the heck is this eyeball guy?
either way that is why this thread is so great. open exchange right?
Danga
October 15th, 2009
11:46 pm
I’m actually rooting for the Phils. Just don’t care for the Dodgers mostly because I don’t care for Manny. But I do enjoy a train wreck.
Mid Town Joe
October 15th, 2009
11:48 pm
Sorry, DOB. I did my Evelyn Woods reading of the blog, earlier, and throttled through your comments on Kasten. Thanks!
uga-brave
October 15th, 2009
11:49 pm
with all due respect to KC and the people that overate our everyday players, there is no doubt that the final four have more talent.
Danga
October 15th, 2009
11:51 pm
Yeah. The lineups looks a LOT better, but you have to like how our pitching staff would have matched up against these teams.
willie mays hayes
October 15th, 2009
11:59 pm
I dont know how confident I would have felt if ATL faced Philly in the playoffs. Just thinking about the way Howard has killed our pitching…ugh
Wayne in Utah
October 15th, 2009
11:59 pm
uga
How ya been? I find it interesting, that some of us find it easy to tick folks off (I count myself in that group). This eyeball kid starts out like a punk right from the start, offending some of the more respected bloggers.
I’ve been down in San Diego for the past few days in meetings, but still suffering effects of a bout w/ the flu last week. Just wishing I was in the familiar confines of home right about now.
Dow at 10K. A little scary though, as I really don’t see there being too much of a recovery. (surely not in my bidnezz)
I think it is more dollar driven than anything.
Got about 1/4 of my 401K in a self-directed account. Made about 7% in September on my portion, but so far in October, about even. Any hot tips (beyond stashing it under the mattress!!!)?
Wayne in Utah
October 16th, 2009
12:01 am
For sure these guys have more talent offensively than our Bravos. But our end of the year crew was definitely an improvement over our May crew.
Wayne in Utah
October 16th, 2009
12:02 am
Lidge is in…..Dodgers have a shot.
Wayne in Utah
October 16th, 2009
12:03 am
A tall SS woulda ate that one up…
uga-brave
October 16th, 2009
12:04 am
think about it mike napoli the angels catcher hit 20 dingers in 380 at bats, he hits seventh in their lineup.
time to realize that we are not that talented offensively.
yunell, chipper, and macc are keepers. other then that well it is not worthy.
gotta find a guy like werth. 36 dingers, 20 stolen bases. guess the phils dont miss pat the bat.
debating the worth of kelly johnson is moronic. he does not have the fast twitch muscles to play in the middle infield.
like scoots has said, gotta find a right handed hitting thug.
The Blogger Formerly Known as Billy
October 16th, 2009
12:08 am
“Why is it that whenever a player leaves Atlanta and goes to another team he is an instant success. However when a really great player comnes to Atlanta they go downhill. Oh it couldn’t be that sorry excuse for a manager, Bobby Cox, now could it? That boob Cox should be arrested and charged with impersonating a major leauge manager.” — Rick, October 15th, 2009, 10:16 pm.
I think the exact opposite many, many players former Braves have no where near the amount of success they experienced with Atlanta. Look at the prospect we dealt for Hudson. What about A. Marte who we turned into Jiar Jurgens. Other players that did not out perform their Atlanta days include:
M. Giles
J. Rocker
J. Estrada
R. Gant
E. Renteria
R. Langerhans
W. Betimet
S. Thorman
W Aybar
S. Avery
K. Merker
R. Furcal
A. Jones
T. Glavine
G. Maddux
J. Smoltz
Thats just off the top of my head.
Danga
October 16th, 2009
12:08 am
Why is Ronnie Belliard playing over Orlando Hudson?
Wayne in Utah
October 16th, 2009
12:11 am
Billy
There are a lot of idiots out there, for sure.
Wayne in Utah
October 16th, 2009
12:16 am
Craig Sager (sp) sure dissed Lidge during that interview. Didn’t say goodbye, good luck or kiss my azz; just walked away from him and over to Ibanez. What a doofus.
N8
October 16th, 2009
12:18 am
DOB on the other blog when you announced new bloggage, you stated “let the pigeons fly”. After catching up on Fast Forward tonight, I’m just glad all the crows didn’t fall dead from the sky!
As for Hamels? Scary, isn’t it? And to think, some Phillies fans were griping that Manuel was going with Lee in game one of the Rockies series? Unreal.
uga-brave
October 16th, 2009
12:18 am
as much as i respect matt diaz, but if he opens up the season as a starting outfielder we are in trouble.
uga-brave
October 16th, 2009
12:22 am
n8,
hammels is starting to remind me of avery.
too many innings early in their career.
same type of pitchers.
the dude threw close to 230 innings last year.
Braveheart
October 16th, 2009
12:23 am
Wayne, I don’t know sh!t about economics, so I shouldn’t even bother responding, but don’t you think the DOW getting back to 10,000 might lead to people feeling more free to spend again soon, thus helping the rest of the economy? I dunno. I really don’t. But maybe alot of folks are like my pops, who is about ten or so years from retirement, and who almost had a heart attack when he saw his savings cut nearly in half by the market going in the toilet, thus stopping him from spending and borrowing against his savings. Getting it back to 10 again makes him breathe a little easier, thus maybe allowing him to spend a bit more. But he’s still cautious. Get it to 13, or 15, 16, and he’ll start believing again that he’ll be okay when he retires and maybe start spending freely again. I hope so. Hate when I go over there and instead of raiding his overflowing fridge like I’ve done all my life, I feel compelled to fill his fridge for him because he’s gone a bit overboard with being such a tightwad.
Wayne in Utah
October 16th, 2009
12:24 am
uga
I am afraid if Matty isn’t used in a trade, he will start off in one corner, unless Heyward is put in the lineup from the get go (which is what I personally hope happens). We need to not worry about hurting a guys psyche, and just let him play ball.
CaliChopper
October 16th, 2009
12:28 am
Understand division rivalries but any Dodger loss is a good thing, WTG Philly
uga-brave
October 16th, 2009
12:29 am
for the braves to be successful they have to find that leadoff guy and the thumper in the four hole.
they have the starters. nate is better back in the lineup. turn him loose.
prado is a good 2 hole guy.
problem is all the players we want to keep are lefthanders.
David O'Brien
October 16th, 2009
12:30 am
David Wells brings nothing to this TBS studio show. And as hard as they’re trying to replicate the sort of loose, informative and very entertaining vibe that TBS’ NBA studio show has with Ernie, Barkley and Kenny Smith, it just doesn’t work with these baseball guys. I mean, the show’s OK, but that’s all. Just OK.
You can’t manfacture that chemistry that Barkley and Kenny and Ernie have. They just caught the proverbial lightning in the bottle with that trio.
Wayne in Utah
October 16th, 2009
12:31 am
Braveheart
Your dad and I sound like we are in the same boat. I am about 10 years from retirement, and I lost 60% last fall. Huge. I am normally an optimistic person, but the way our guys in DC are spending money these days (all of them are wreckless with our tax money, not one party or the other), it scares the sheeyt out of me sometimes.
They are going to hit us BIG time with a boat load of new taxes. If there was somewhere else to move to, I would be gone already……
The way our leaders are running our country, we don’t look anything like the US of A that we were when I was a kid. We are more like the USS of A. Give me security, or give me death!
N8
October 16th, 2009
12:32 am
uga, that might be a good comparison to Avery for Hamels (unless you’re Hamels LOL).
But yeah, riding a young arm like that isn’t such a good thing, especially when you add in post-season innings.
Maybe missing the playoffs was a blessing in disquise? Save JJJ’s and Hanson’s arms for the future instead of burning them out in their early 20’s.
David O'Brien
October 16th, 2009
12:32 am
Regarding Sager and Lidge: Yeah, but Lidge got in the last word with the crack on Sager’s suit.
uga-brave
October 16th, 2009
12:33 am
braveheart,
as long as i go to my parents house and they still have bryers ice cream in the freezer, i am not terribly worried.
though i get your angst.
Wayne in Utah
October 16th, 2009
12:34 am
uga
If we don’t get a better leadoff hitter, who would you go with? Escobar? Prado? Diaz? Matty stole a few bases this year. He doesn’t walk too much, but his walk rate did increase this season. He might be the man for the spot.
Agreed on Wells. There has got to be some better choices out there. Whatever happened to Spaceman Bill Lee???
Wayne in Utah
October 16th, 2009
12:36 am
Is Sager a used car salesman by day, and in-game interviewer by night?
N8
October 16th, 2009
12:39 am
Has Dennis Eckersley’s hair changed AT ALL in the past 20 years? Put some sunglasses, a flashy shirt and a Member’s Only jacket on that guy and he could be Bernie from A Weekend at Bernie’s.
Eck is part of one of my favorite baseball highlights of alltime. The Gibson HR. The HR was impressive and chilling enough. But my favorite part is Eck mouthing “WOW” as Gibson rounds the bases. Just love stuff like that.
Braveheart
October 16th, 2009
12:40 am
uga, you don’t think kj has the fast twitch muscles for second, but believe prado has those fast twitch muscles?
you’re right though. we need impact players at the three most important spots in the lineup – 1, 3, & 4. Too many complimentary players. It’s like having a basketball team without a point guard, shooting guard and big man. maybe the braves can piece together enough quality complimentary players in their lineup like the pistons earlier this decade to make a nice run, but chances are just like in the nba, they’re gonna need a high impact core at the most critical lineup slots, and then just surround them with these nice complimentary players.
N8
October 16th, 2009
12:40 am
“David Wells brings nothing to this TBS studio show.” DOB
I bet you’re wrong. Wells strikes me as the guy that would bring the beer to any gathering.
uga-brave
October 16th, 2009
12:41 am
dob,
meant to ask you about the baseball thing you attended at the forty watt.
schultz is now doing a rock star thing on 790 with mike bell.
schultz called you out before you guys headed up there on that monday night on his blog.
called you the ajc resident music critic.
either way great collection of talent there.
mike mills, peter buck, and bill berry? cant get better then that.
Wayne in Utah
October 16th, 2009
12:42 am
N8
The Gibson HR off Eck was the most memorable sports moment I have ever experienced. The TV guys were talking about how Gibson was not available, and I am sitting on my couch saying, “are you kidding me”, if the opportunity comes up, he will be available. Next thing you see is him emerging from the back of the dugout…. The rest is history.
uga-brave
October 16th, 2009
12:47 am
braveheart,
absolutely, too many guys with the same skill set.
all can hit .280 and hit 15 dingers.
none can really run, no really defining difference.
actually you could of hit that lineup last season 1 through 8 one night, and 8 through 1 the next.
what would of been the difference?
Wayne in Utah
October 16th, 2009
12:48 am
20 years ago Saturday, was the day of the big quake. I was driving home from San Mateo to Fairfield that evening, listening to the pre-game show on the radio when it started shaking.
There were two ways that I go home from back then. I chose the back way. If I had chosen the other way, there is a pretty good chance I could of been under that bridge structure that collapsed in Oakland. Sobering experience.
N8
October 16th, 2009
12:49 am
Wayne, last year (maybe it was last spring), Lasorda was on Jim Rome and to hear him tell the story is entertainment at it’s best. If you can find an interview with him telling the story, tune in to it, it’s worth your time.
I miss Lasorda. MLB misses Lasorda. Nobody better for the game than Tommy Lasorda, imo. Man I hated that guy as a kid. Who the hell makes Pasqual Perez take of his bling? He was the perfect combination of old-school but wasn’t afraid to show his emotions and get excited when good things happened.
Braveheart
October 16th, 2009
12:50 am
uga, that’s the thing though. he loves the breyer’s too. favorite brand, but it ain’t in his freezer anymore, and it’s just not my pop’s place when there ain’t breyer’s in the freezer and entenmann’s on the counter, so i go out and buy it for him. when i ask him why he doesn’t buy it anymore, he says if not stuffing my face with ice cream, donuts and coffee cake now means me i ain’t gonna be driving a school bus, and your mom ain’t gonna be a greeter at walmart trying to make ends meet when we should be walking on a beach in retirement, then i’ll go without the ice cream, coffee cake and donuts.
Wayne in Utah
October 16th, 2009
12:52 am
Amen on Lasorda! Hershiser was magnificent also!
I was living in the bay area and a Dodger hater back then, but it is easy to like Lasorda.
N8
October 16th, 2009
12:55 am
I’m sure y’all have this in your home towns as well. But around here all the dairy companies litter their packages with seasonal/regional sports teams.
I’m currently stuffing my face with some Wavy Lays chips and some french onion dip. Out of a container with Minnesota Vikings logos all over it. I swear it actually makes it taste worse. How the hell am I supposed to enjoy a midnight snack in a purple container with a viking on it?
uga-brave
October 16th, 2009
12:58 am
bad analogy braveheart. see my folks are from you neck of the woods.
dad is from mount vernon. the mom is from scarsdale. grew up a southerner, but the parents are from new york.
on top of that my last name ends in a vowel. so i guess that makes me a what?
David O'Brien
October 16th, 2009
12:58 am
OK, I got a second wind and went back through and fixed some typos. You folks are too nice for not pointing them out. (Or, more likely, most of you skipped through so quickly you didn’t see ‘em.)
David O'Brien
October 16th, 2009
1:00 am
N8, just pretend that’s a Brett Favre mini-helmet replica! That’ll make your dip or salsa taste better, eating from the helmet (replica) of The Man.
BraveCat
October 16th, 2009
1:05 am
Did not read this stupid blog…….I figure everyone is betting on the Phillies. I hate the Phillies and even more their stupid fans. If you live in Atlanta……..and you are a Phillies fan………..MOVE BACK TO PHILADELPHIA! Tim Hudson……….if you can win next year…….like EVERY game…..stay. Otherwise, LEAVE. GOOOOOOO HOKIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! beat the hell out of the ….GT stingers?
David O'Brien
October 16th, 2009
1:06 am
uga-brave: That show at the 40 Watt was one I won’t soon forget. If I had skipped it, then found out that a near-REM reunion broke out, I’d have kicked myself. But we were there, rode over on the bike on a beautiful night, rode back next morning. Terrific show.
Patterson Hood hopped on stage to sing with the band briefly during first set, and Mike Mills played a bunch of tunes with them from the Baseball Project album. Wynn and his wife, drummer Linda, were typically stellar, as were all the band members. But when Bill Berry jumped onstage — which Steve said they had no idea was going to happen until shortly before he did it — and played the three-song encore with them, including Ballad of John and Yoko … it was surreal. Three REM members up there (with Steve, Linda, et al) and Michael Stipe standing about 20 feet away from us at the back of the bar, in a stocking cap, watching the entire thing.
We were all hoping he’d go up and sing one or two songs, have the whole, original REM onstage. Alas, didn’t happen. But Stipe did go backstage afterward. I talked to Steve Wynn for quite a while between sets (he’s been good friends with Schultz since they were in high school in L.A., when both were budding sports writers for the school paper — before Wynn took a little more glamorous route and ended up forming Dream Syndicate in the ’80s).
Jarryd
October 16th, 2009
1:06 am
Good job BraveCat
Wayne in Utah
October 16th, 2009
1:08 am
How do the Hawks look this season?
Wayne in Utah
October 16th, 2009
1:10 am
uga
What would you think about an addition like Xavier Nady? If he is healed up from his surgery, he could be a good bat to have. Would he be a decent first baseman if LaRoche can’t be retained?
DOB, if you had to give odds on LaRoche coming back, what would you give it? 50/50? 75/25?
N8
October 16th, 2009
1:11 am
DOB, hey if somebody would go get me some fresh homemade Wisconson beer-cheese soup, I might actually eat it out of Brett’s hands.
There is nothing more painful as a Chiefs fan living in Vikings land to look at the standings and see that 0-5 record for KC and the Vikings at 4-0 or whatever they are at, with Jared Allen leading the way on defense.
How is this for “bad GM’ing” by former Chiefs GM Carl Peterson. The Chiefs, after trading Jared Allen and letting Jimmy Wilkerson walk to the Bucs as a free agent, had 10 sacks last year (an all-time low record for any NFL franchise in a 16 game season). This year they have 6 sacks through 5 games. That’s 16 sacks in the last 21 games for my Chiefs.
Jared Allen has 6.5 sacks this year, after having 14.5 last year. Yup. Jared Allen has the same amount of sacks as the entire Chiefs team in the past 21 games. As for Wilkerson? He had 5 last year, and has 5 so far this year.
Two guys 31 sacks, 21 games. (sigh)
David O'Brien
October 16th, 2009
1:12 am
Wayne, I really don’t have a strong feeling one way or other about LaRoche coming back. Not yet. But could have one real soon.
Oh, and the Hawks should be solid, added some depth since last year.
uga-brave
October 16th, 2009
1:14 am
braveheart,
who guarantees anyones retirement? my father was a eastern airlines pilot.
probably not many here remember eastern airlines.
frank lorenzo bought the airlines and pretty much wanted the airline for the reservation system and the northeast shuttle.
broke the union. watched those guys march the line in the late 80’s.
half started kiwi airlines, half went to united.
then there was valuejet. either way a lot of alpa pilots went elsewhere.
Wayne in Utah
October 16th, 2009
1:16 am
DOB
I appreciate your honesty on it. Damn, what I would give to be a fly on the wall during those meetings. How much fun would that be for a lt Braves fan. We could sign an agreement to guarantee our silence…… Nah, it would never work. But damn, it would be interesting for sure.
Wayne in Utah
October 16th, 2009
1:18 am
Patience during the Braves organizational meetings!
Kinda feel like the Buzzard who says: “Patience hell, I wanna kill something!”
N8
October 16th, 2009
1:20 am
Since starting the 2007 season 4-3, my Chief have gone 2-27. The Detroit Lions who went 0-16 last year, have gone 3-26 in that same time. I know it’s just one win. But that sucks. So forgive me if I’m pumped for Spring Training already. Oh yeah. There’s that Tony Gonzalez guy we used to have too.
Thank god for Al Davis and Raiders.
uga-brave
October 16th, 2009
1:23 am
n8,
see the stat through six games that the skins have not played a team with one win.
think about that 1 in 32,000 stat.
RHR
October 16th, 2009
1:23 am
Drive by post…all my favorites are here I think…I’m high as a kite. Root canal in the morning. Lew has my address if the weejun gang wants to send flowers.
good blog dob…thanks.
Wayne in Utah
October 16th, 2009
1:24 am
You all know I am a conservative SOB. I am not necessarily a RL fan. This isn’t about politics. You would think the NFL would WANT a guy like Limbaugh in it’s ownership ranks. Who gives a darn about these corporate ownership groups. It’s the Marge Schotts, the George Steinbrenners, the Al Davis’ of the world that makes for more interesting stories outside the normal “sports” stories.
Where is there a guy who loves the NFL more than Limbaugh? Too bad Roger G was influenced by the politics of the day. He would have been good for the game.
Braveheart
October 16th, 2009
1:24 am
so your dad is from the money earnin’ mount vernon, and your mom is from the we don’t earn money because we already have all the money scarsdale, huh? no wonder you have an obsession with money. and, oh, if your last name ends in a vowel, ain’t no doubt you’re a stinkin’ guido. or so said the dirty mick.
N8
October 16th, 2009
1:25 am
uga, the only thing I remember about Eastern Airlines, was their slogan in the 80’s:
“The airline that doesn’t plan for the future….. doesn’t have a future.”
People losing their jobs isn’t funny. We just had our biggest local factory announce they’re shutting down after the first of the year, and the community will take a pretty big hit for it, including some relatives of mine and some close friends. So I get it.
But that slogan always killed me. As a guy that has a little background in advertising and marketing, I pay attention to slogans and crap like that.
Wayne in Utah
October 16th, 2009
1:25 am
RHR
Hey, I still have some of that good cough syrup left. I can go and take a swig, and we can get “high” together on the old blog tonight!!
New Dodgers Fan
October 16th, 2009
1:26 am
All this baseball talk is interesting, but what I really want to know is – who is that in the Dodgers uniform posing with Jamie McCourt?
NorCal
October 16th, 2009
1:27 am
Wayne in Utah,
Glad you made it through the quake ok. It does not seem like 20 years to me, more like 10. Guess that happens when you get old. There was a good piece in the SF Chronicle today by a current Giants writer, covering one of his first world series that day, describing all the cunfusion at the game in the days before cell phones, Internet, etc.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/10/15/SP5T1A4J3F.DTL
uga-brave
October 16th, 2009
1:27 am
good to see the old guard out tonight.
bay area steve,
bay area steve,
bay area steve,
kinda like fred flinstone calling out the great gazoo.
whiskey?
Wayne in Utah
October 16th, 2009
1:28 am
N8
I learned the hard cold facts first hand in 1990, when I was dismissed from a 10.5 year career because my company layed of 25% of it’s workforce. Thanks Wayne for all your dedication, but we don’t need you anymore. BTW, here’s 3 months severance since we like you so much.
It surely changes your perspective on things.
RHR
October 16th, 2009
1:30 am
I’m going to bed wayne, my appt is at 8:30
i hope when i come back tomorrow i dont have to read anything else about limbaugh. cough syrup is good though, i took a swig of my cough syrup tuesday night when my tooth first started hurting because i didnt have anytthing stronger to take but then i went to the dentist the next day and he hooked me up.
Wayne in Utah
October 16th, 2009
1:33 am
NorCal
Yea, it was an interesting time. My work was in San Mateo, and I lived in Fairfield. A 74 mile commute that took 2 hours and 45 minutes BEFORE the quake. Afterwards, it was impossible to get over the Heyward/San Mateo bridge. I was surprised that more folks weren’t killed under that bridge collapse on Hwy 17. Every other day I have been in that traffic during rush hour, it was bumper to bumper. I think the game being played that day ended up causing a lot of folks to change their normal routes. I did. Probably ended up saving a lot of lives.
Wayne in Utah
October 16th, 2009
1:36 am
take care RHR. Hope tomorrow is a better day for you.
monty
October 16th, 2009
1:37 am
Can’t wait to see who BC picks as his (only) 3-4 “go to” guys next year! We could save some money and use it on a RH bat by eliminating 3-4 of the othe rbullpen guys, they just occupy space. JUst being facetious!
NorCal
October 16th, 2009
1:39 am
Wayne,
Wow, that was a horrendous commute. Hope you did not have to do it for a long time.
uga-brave
October 16th, 2009
1:41 am
bravey,
i be a guido. only the fact that a jive talking bro like you be a bama fan.
there is irony.
all respect, i remember your post about your nephew going overseas.
that was when you guys were watching a bama game. hope all is well.
hey i married into a inlaw that was a ex jarhead.
i married a girl that went to penn state.
she is from butler pa. think that movie all the right moves. pretty depressing place.
either way i love my father in law. he takes me to a ton of american legions and vfw’s. we travel quite of bit, and i love meeting the people.
Braveheart
October 16th, 2009
1:46 am
When the Braves traded for Gary Sheffield, they traded Brian Jordan, Odalis Perez, and Andrew Brown. Is there a similar threesome within the Braves organization now? If so, who? And who is the equivalent to Sheff that you would trade for?
I guess you could say McLouth is somewhat the equivalent of Jordan. In the three seasons before that trade, Jordan went .281/.334/.463/.797/100 OPS+ with 86 doubles, 7 triples, 65 homers, 26 stolen bases in 1787 plate appearances. In the last three seasons, McLouth has gone .265/.353/.467/.820/116 OPS+ with 94 doubles, 9 triples, 59 homers, 64 SBs in 1658 plate appearances. McLouth plays a more important defensive position as well.
Who counts as the Odaliz Perez these days? Would that be Medlen? Or does he need to show more? In 2001, Perez went 91.3 innings with a 4.91 ERA, 91 ERA+ and a 71/39 K/BB rate. This year, Medlen went 67.7 innings with a 4.26 ERA/ 98 ERA+ and a 72/30 K/BB rate.
But who counts as Sheffield? Would Prince Fielder count? In the three seasons before he was traded, Sheffield hit .312/.420/.571/1.001 with a 159 OPS+ in 1893 plate appearances. In the last 3 seasons, Fielder has hit .288/.393/.575 with a 150 OPS+ in 2094 plate appearances.
I can’t see McLouth, Medlen and some lower level pitching prospect the equivalent of Brown being enough to get Prince. The indications in Milwaukee are that they’d only break up the Prince/Braun duo if they were getting back an impact starting pitcher. Sheffield was also a 32 year old pain in the arse at the time. But whatever. It’s something to think and dream about, and least there is a reasonable precedent out there
uga-brave
October 16th, 2009
1:51 am
braveheart,
jordan was spent when they made that trade, do better.
want to get a player? sign rochy for three years. trade freeman and a combination of prospects.
N8
October 16th, 2009
1:51 am
Braveheart, I think the thing that’s missing from the equation more than the parts of the trade, is that while Fielder doesn’t appear to be completely content on playing his whole career in Brew-town, I don’t believe he’s demanded a trade or a new contract the way Shef did.
But I was thinking the same thing the other day. Having McLouth be trade bait, and getting somebody like Cameron and Fielder to stop-gap until Schafer and Freeman were ready.
Too early to speculate onn who’s coming our way, but never to early to speculate about who we might get rid of. lol
uga-brave
October 16th, 2009
1:55 am
prospect huggers were sure thurman was the next great thing.
freeman has value now. laroche will have production.
freeman is the trade pawn.
Braveheart
October 16th, 2009
1:56 am
UGA, my cousin got through Iraq okay, but in his tour of Afghanistan, his unit got attacked, and he suffered injuries, and had to get airlifted out. He’s doing okay now though, and is expected to make a full recovery. Brave dude.
P. W. Hjort
October 16th, 2009
1:57 am
I’m concerned about the Hawks’ lack of a premier big guy. But I’m pumped for NBA to start. My second favorite sporting league.
Chad
October 16th, 2009
1:59 am
Limbaugh is a huge NFL fan? The guy who said it often looks like a fight between the Bloods and the Crips without weapons? If he says that about a league he loves, I’d hate to hear what he’d say about one he hates.
Also, didn’t Schott eventually get forced out of baseball? The only time I remember Steinbrenner being amusing was when the Yanks lost, just to see who would pay the price. And ask Raiders fans how much they love Al Davis’ leadership right now. Even Cuban’s antics are getting old. Tell me, who would you honestly want running your team, Arthur Blank, who tries to get good talent to run the club and conducts himself with dignity, or a group like the Atlanta Spirit? Even the faceless Liberty Media looks palatable by comparison. At least the only complaint you can levy at them is a lack of willingness to spend more money on the team. There’s already too many “personalities” in professional sports. I will not complain about people in sports who attract attention by doing their job well and not by shooting their mouths off.
Actually, that was one thing that really struck me about this blog. Hudson is a class act on and off the field and seems to be one of the more intelligent men in sport. You can bet he won’t react like a couple other pitchers have recently if the Braves can’t work out a way to keep him here.
uga-brave
October 16th, 2009
2:00 am
i meant thorman, mighty god of thunder thor. well that worked out.
thor made klesko look like beilliard. never seen a guy take a mightier cut.
uga-brave
October 16th, 2009
2:03 am
braveheart,
did not mean to hit a nerve. hope all is well, i mean it.
Braveheart
October 16th, 2009
2:15 am
nah, uga, it was cool of you to remember him enough to ask how he was doing.