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Anders
October 20th, 2009
3:09 pm
Anders, I’m a Brooklyn Dodger, not a Bible Beater. A real New Yorker would’ve known that. (Preacher Roe)
Yeah, you got me there. How obvious was that? An old Brooklyn Dodgers fan on the Braves blog. Anyway, it was a play on words, so loosen your suspenders and laugh a bit. Being the only guy on the blog who actually remembers when we pulled out of the last great depression you shouldn’t be all gnarly.
jim
October 20th, 2009
3:19 pm
Is there any reason to expect more than 280, 15-20 HR, and 80 RBIs from Chipper next year? He will be one year older, has had nagging injury issues for the last 3-4 years that have limited his playing time (or his contribution when he tries to return too soon), and his power outage goes back to the second half of the 2008 season when he hit for average, but not power. With those numbers he should be considered a complimentary player. Chipper would not be the 3-hole hitter next year on the Phillies, Mets, Marlins, or Nats, and he would be hitting no higher than 5th on any of those teams. McCann is an impact player, but he is a catcher and must be rested for 30 games/year (or burn out too quickly). Yunel is a good player, but not the centerpiece of a good offense. As presently constituted we don’t have a match for (Utley, Howard), (Beltran, Wright), (Ramirez, Coghlan), (Zimmerman, Dunn). The first question next year will be how long does Heyward spend in the minors before he is called up. The second question will be how long before he is ready to move into the 3-hole.
Bay Area Steve
October 20th, 2009
3:20 pm
Pretty sure, in addition to Roe, nolie remembers “pulling out of last great depression.” I believe he was also present for the post-Great War recession, and the Panic of 1873. I am unclear about the Revolutionary period; ’tis difficult to find accurate records. Consider yourself bopped, sir.
flange 1
October 20th, 2009
3:20 pm
BAS,
You know that you won’t be banned! We need the team leader of the night shift!!
CB
October 20th, 2009
3:21 pm
Bay Area Steve,nothing idiotic about your rantings- just absolutely the funniest guy on the blog. Yeah, Robert is an idiot.
Thrillhouse44
October 20th, 2009
3:22 pm
Any guesses on how Snoop is celebrating his big day? I predict the store closest to Big Snoop Dogg has already run out of Phillies.
Anders
October 20th, 2009
3:25 pm
You know how many steps up for me it would be if BAS called me “an idiot”?
Someday maybe, someday.
Preacher Roe
October 20th, 2009
3:26 pm
I read this blog very often and have to say that some who are regulars do seem to have the “Skip Carey syndrome”. Any question or comment made that isn’t 100% logical or perfectly thought out is the rantings of an idiot. Tone down the holier than thou attitudes and maybe more people would lend their two cents. This blog isn’t just for the connected few. (Travis)
And by connected, do you mean those few privileged Braves fans who’ve been secretly told how to correctly spell the last name of the announcer of the team for 3+ decades? It’s Skip Caray. C. A. R. A. Y. A, not E. He had a very famous father who went by C.A.R.A.Y., A, not E, and a semi-famous son who goes by C.A.R.A.Y, A, and not E, as well. They may be holier than thou, these connected few, but it’s better than being dumber than dirt. Caray, not Carey. Andruw, not Andrew.
Anders
October 20th, 2009
3:28 pm
No wonder the Dodgers left Brooklyn. And they went as far as they possibly could too.
RHR
October 20th, 2009
3:29 pm
Any guesses on how Snoop is celebrating his big day?
Rollin down the street, smokin indo, sippin on gin and juice?
Wayne in Utah
October 20th, 2009
3:29 pm
Correction: Robert is not an idiot. His posting at times border on idiotic. Is that more accurate? But then again, what do I know…..
During a two week period, I tried to get banned from the blog. Talked about everything from A to Z. Never happened.
Whatever happened to the true blog idiot, Paul from San Fran?
RHR
October 20th, 2009
3:31 pm
Better question: Who cares?
tiger297
October 20th, 2009
3:32 pm
is it nit picky or nity prick I can never remember?
ugaaccountant
October 20th, 2009
3:34 pm
P. W. Hjort – I think you’ve probably got the broadest understanding of the current situation. You’re spot on about a bullpen in my opinion. Just because some relievers “didn’t work out” in the eyes of fans, your stats show clearly that relief pitching is not highly correlated with money spent on closers. In fact, other than Mariano Rivera, I’d postulate that any money above say $2 million each spent on closers could have been better spent on a bullpen full of relievers.
However, when guys are talking about remembering the 96 season, they don’t mean remembering it from when you were less than 10 years old. Since you’re in college now, that probably puts you as a young kid in 96.
McFann Ô –[brr!]
October 20th, 2009
3:36 pm
CB–
A vulture, eh? I’ll have to give that one a whirl…
David O'Brien
October 20th, 2009
3:38 pm
Supes, Jake W.: I’m surprised to hear Happ won Sporting News ROY only because I think Marlins’ Chris Coghlan deserves it over either pitcher (Happ or Hanson).
MZ
October 20th, 2009
3:48 pm
Anybody catch “Paranormal Activity” yet? Saw it last night … pretty frightening stuff … couple of previews caught my attention — “The Lovely Bones” and “Shutter Island” … looks like a couple of must-sees, for sure
Travis
October 20th, 2009
3:53 pm
Preacher Roe …my point exactly…the poster child for intolerance just posted. Yeah I guess insulting people from behind your keyboard makes you a bad a$$. Maybe some little man syndrome going on here.
Daslied
October 20th, 2009
3:55 pm
Jim, what you’re missing is that, as presently constituted, Philly, NY, Florida or Washington don’t have a match for Vazquez, Hanson and Jurrjens.
I’ll take that starting three over two power hitters.
Preacher Roe
October 20th, 2009
4:03 pm
Travis Bickle, you could’ve at least hit me back with a “You talking to me? You talking to me?”
P. W. Hjort
October 20th, 2009
4:03 pm
Money Quote from MLBTR chat:
2:56 [Comment From Mariners]
Catcher situation?
2:57
Sign someone for $2 mil or so…Zaun if he becomes avail, maybe Varitek.
2:58[Comment From Big Mets Fan]
Similar, catching situation for mets?
2:58
Yes, but I expect the Mets to handle it less intelligently than the Mariners.
Anders
October 20th, 2009
4:08 pm
Preacher Roe and Travis Bickle going at it. Where the hell am I, Walton’s Mountain?
Wayne in Utah
October 20th, 2009
4:11 pm
So who is this poster child for blog intolerance???? If your going to call someone out, you should have the guts to actually DO it.
David O'Brien
October 20th, 2009
4:12 pm
Speaking of Travis Bickle … I saw a terrific movie on DVD the other night with a character about as intense as him. Can’t believe I missed it when it came out several years ago. It’s called The Believer , starring Ryan Gosling, one of the best young actors in films today. It’s based on a true story about a Jewish Nazi (yes, a Jewish Nazi) kid in his early 20s, a seriously intense, intelligent but conficted (obviously) and violent dude who’s a lot like Ed Norton’s character in American History X.
Gosling also reminds me a lot of Norton; he’s that good an actor. And the movie is outstanding.
Wayne in Utah
October 20th, 2009
4:15 pm
Most definitely agreed that spending a lot of money on relief pitchers is a total crap shoot, short of some of the elite closers and set up men. Those can be counted on one hand, imo.
Nathan sure looked bad under pressure during the playoffs against the Yankees. The only true shut down closer in the playoffs is Mo.
That’s why I would let Soriano go, but offer arbitration for Gonzo.
Relief pitchers, generally speaking, are pitchers who aren’t good enough to be starters.
David O'Brien
October 20th, 2009
4:16 pm
Travis Bickle on Walton’s Mountain … now there’s a juxtaposition I would never have conjured.
ncscoots
October 20th, 2009
4:17 pm
The first question next year will be how long does Heyward spend in the minors before he is called up. The second question will be how long before he is ready to move into the 3-hole.
If those are the two burning questions for the Braves in 2010, then the team will still be in the “pretender” category.
And whoever said “blog tolerance” was a virtue, LOL? It may have been, once, in this forum, but that changed with the influx of numbletards, nitwits, and nincompoops in the last couple-three years. Why should anyone be tolerant of dog**** on one’s shoes (Weejuns or not)?
Anders
October 20th, 2009
4:19 pm
DOB- The name caught my attention as a country sounding one. I didn’t correlate it all the way back to Taxi Driver ….. I’ll move on now.
Anders
October 20th, 2009
4:20 pm
Speaking of movies – Watched The Usual Suspects again the other night. Never get tired of that one. Spacey is genius in it. Right there with Seven.
Anders
October 20th, 2009
4:25 pm
BTW- Rick Peterson signed with Milwaukee today. Wonder if he’d like to take another shot at his star pupil Oliver Perez again?
Anders
October 20th, 2009
4:26 pm
Enter your comments here
P. W. Hjort
October 20th, 2009
4:26 pm
Relief pitchers, generally speaking, are pitchers who aren’t good enough to be starters.
They’re all a bunch of pre-madonnas.
ncscoots
October 20th, 2009
4:32 pm
They’re all a bunch of pre-madonnas
And it’s a crime shame, is what I’m sayin’.
P. W. Hjort
October 20th, 2009
4:34 pm
Nice, scoots.
Preacher Roe
October 20th, 2009
4:35 pm
Our supposed expert in all things New York has a Preacher Roe and Travis Bickle reference fly straight over his head. Makes one wonder where the hell in Alpharetta does Anders reside?
Anders
October 20th, 2009
4:40 pm
Preacher Roe- Personally I wouldn’t mind living in Alpharetta at all. My brother lived there for a while and it’s quite nice.
I guarantee you’ll get me 99% of the time on any 1940’s reference that didn’t happen on December 7th. As for the 70’s, I’ll probably get half of them. Perhaps you have a case regarding my age as opposed to where I reside?
BTW- Where are you from and who do you root for?
Wayne in Utah
October 20th, 2009
4:49 pm
I guess I have to plead ignorance on the “Taxi Driver” being Travis Bickle (didn’t know that until I googled it). But I did know about the Dodgers spitball pitcher, Preacher Roe. Sorry to hear that he passed away last year. I like old people. I aspire to be one some day….
Wayne in Utah
October 20th, 2009
4:50 pm
Anders
Now, you know you should be able to answer ALL questions from the peanut gallery!
Anders
October 20th, 2009
4:52 pm
Wayne- I used to like old people. Not so sure anymore. {:
dogsbrekky
October 20th, 2009
4:53 pm
Dobi One Knobi and Others – great films
I highly recommend “An Education”, a truly wonderful, edgy Pommie film recently released… probably shown at indie type theatres… excellent stuff
Daybed Wagmoe
October 20th, 2009
4:54 pm
I have a question that may be a bit of a dumb one, but here goes…the Sporting News Rookie of the Year award that J.A. Happ won today — is that the “official” Rookie of the Year Award? I only ask because in all of the records I can see, the TSN NL ROY for 2005 was Willy Taveras, but baseball-reference.com has Ryan Howard as the winner in 2005. One website also says that TSN discontinued the award…
Please, can someone help me out here?
ncscoots
October 20th, 2009
4:55 pm
Old dudes rule, people. And dudettes. Oops.
brent a.
October 20th, 2009
4:56 pm
It was funny how many times the word “complement” was misspelled on page 18.
dogsbrekky
October 20th, 2009
4:56 pm
Dobi – the Gosling movie is excellent, but seriously he is NOT Ed Norton Jr…. wait… I actually cannot now recall a good flcik Ed has been in for the last 2-3 years… oh well.. Gosling is very good.. but at his best Norton Jr is GREAT !
dogsbrekky
October 20th, 2009
5:00 pm
“pre-madonnas”
I bloody well love it, love it, love it
That comment ranks right up there with
YOUR AN IDIOT…….. and
People with Water HOUSES
actually I am going to use pre-madonnas as my current ajc.com favorite !!!
“Party on Wayne”
dogsbrekky
October 20th, 2009
5:00 pm
I meant YOUR ANDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD idiot
gulp… I am an idiot
Nolie
October 20th, 2009
5:12 pm
He was big-time, clutch, and loved the Braves and loved competing. The man was a champion. Ditto for Marquis (rico)
ok he played forever so he had a half dozen big hit, big deal. He would have had to be even worse than he actually was not to have a few in the length of time he played. His stats prove that y’all are remembering a few memorable hits as compared to the ludicrously poor usual performance. HIs leverage numbers prove him to be a stat-padder. He slugged 230…230 FCS with 2out RISP AND late/close. He had a 230ish BA in post season where most at bats are pretty important because of the short series/go home if you lose situation. Plus he was one of the most self-centered players in baseball rivaling Rafael Palmiero in that regard and one of the least liked Braves players in clubhouse history. He had a history of steroid use and domestic abuse.
Yeah he helped Tom give us a WS win and that’s appreciated but this myth of the Great God Justice and his ‘clutch’ career is a buncha crap.
Lew
October 20th, 2009
5:13 pm
Pre-Madonnas a the musk oxen from Cordele, Uganda. Been a while.
McFann Ô –[brr!]
October 20th, 2009
5:19 pm
Hey, dogsbrekky! Seen any good blue jays lately? We haven’t, actually…
Nolie
October 20th, 2009
5:21 pm
I am thinking 2011. What do you think? (flange on Miner)
I’m thinking he has a good shot of coming up in 2011 too; just don’t think he has all that much ceiling. A middle order LHer won’t be all bad though
Bobby Hill
October 20th, 2009
5:21 pm
I don’t know that I would say that the Braves are built around complimentary players, but they are short on star players right now. Star power is based partly, but not completely on performance. The rest is based on charisma, good looks, or whatever makes one a star. I think most casual baseball fans could identify maybe two dozen players from around the league at a national level. I’m not sure the Braves have any of these guys right now. These are the types of guys who you see in national TV commercials, guys who get big Nike endorsement deals, making cameo appearances in TV shows, and guest spots on Letterman and Leno.
Star power may or may not be be important on the field. That’s a debate that depends largely on the size of the payroll, and the roster construction philosophy. But star are big marketing vehicles. They sell seats and jerseys, and grab the attention of casual fans. If you want your team to have a national following you’ve got to be able to market through the star powers of your players.
In the 1990’s the Braves had star power in their big three, and Chipper Jones and Andruw Jones. But today, the famous pitchers are gone Andruw has moved on, and Chipper Jones is no longer a star on the national stage. Prior to last year Chipper hadn’t made an all-star team since 2001. McCann is a great player, but he’s not a star on the national stage. I used to see Maddux and Smoltz jerseys all over the country. How many McCann jerseys were sold outside of Georgia in the past year. If the Braves had won the World series this year who would have made an appearance on Letterman? Jair Jurrjens? Javier Vazquez? No.
The lack of stars is partly due to lack of opportunity on the national stage. Missing the playoffs four straight years will do that. But honestly, is hard to imagine anyone on the team getting much attention from the national media. Hanson ans Heyward both seem to have some star potential, so maybe things are turning around.
Nolie
October 20th, 2009
5:23 pm
He just lived for big situations (remoW)
yeah 220/320/230 really proves that huh?
Steve from OH
October 20th, 2009
5:23 pm
nolie–yeah, not bad at all indeed. My personal feeling on him is high floor/low ceiling…
RC
October 20th, 2009
5:24 pm
Bobby Hill,
I’ll agree with you that the Braves don’t have any star players, but I think your comment about “who would appear on Letterman” is flawed. If the Braves won the World Series, the players they have would have BECOME stars. Everyone in the country would know Brian McCann’s name, as well as Jurrjens and Escobar. Before last year, how big of a “star” were Cole Hamels or Shane Victorino?
Nolie
October 20th, 2009
5:31 pm
Consider yourself bopped, sir. (BAS)
I do, but mine was better
ugaaccountant
October 20th, 2009
5:32 pm
Justice = Overrated
If he’s some huge clutch guy, why do his postseasons stats pale in comparison to Mr. Not October Rodriguez?
dogsbrekky
October 20th, 2009
5:34 pm
McFann – no Blue Jays or much colored for that matter… about 500 bleeding Greckles though
dogsbrekky
October 20th, 2009
5:35 pm
uga-accountant – because I can recall THREE well at least 3 justice hits that won HUGE GAMES…. 1991, 1995 and I think 2001
Nolie
October 20th, 2009
5:38 pm
My personal feeling on him is high floor/low ceiling…(STEVE)
good thing he’s not all that tall huh?
MetsWSChamps2010
October 20th, 2009
5:39 pm
Sooo,
Alot of rumors circulating around about what the Mets are gonna do. Quite a few people see the Mets landing Holliday and Lackey at the very least. If that happens, along with having a full season of a healthy Wright, Reyes, Beltran and Santana, I see the Mets as favorites to win the division, if not the World Series. Sorry, Braves fans, but with your ownership unwilling or unable to spend some bucks this offseason on good players (ie Holliday or Bay), there’s no way that the signings you do make offset the acquisitions the Mets and Phillies will make. You will finish 3rd or 4th again in 2010. Heyward or no Heyward, a rookie isn’t going to come in a light the world on fire. He will struggle at times like all rookies, and major league baseball ain’t the minors. Remember another one of your can’t miss prospects Andy Marte?
Bobby Hill
October 20th, 2009
5:41 pm
RC,
Maybe McCann isn’t a big star because he hasn’t been able to play on a big stage, but maybe there are other reasons. I don’t know. Star powers isn’t just about on the field performance. There are guys who have become stars with maybe only one great season, and there are guys like McCann who put up great numbers year after year and never get noticed. And its obviously harder to market foreign players because of cultural and language barriers. You’re never gonna see Jurrjens or Escobar in a national Home Depot commercial. But you might see Chase Utley or Ryan Howard in some national commercials, especially if they win again.
McFann Ô –[brr!]
October 20th, 2009
5:41 pm
dogsbrekky–
Ugh…can’t STAND grackles! I mean, I know they have to eat, too, but good gosh…
Nolie
October 20th, 2009
5:42 pm
because I can recall THREE well at least 3 justice hits that won HUGE GAMES…. 1991, 1995 and I think 2001 (DB)
which is what I’m saying with a bit of hyperbole. People are remembering a few big hits and claiming that he did it all the time, though his numbers absolutely prove that he didn’t.
dogsbrekky
October 20th, 2009
5:43 pm
Boooooobyy HILL – YOUR AND IDIOT
The most “famous” mlb player in the land has a sum total of ZERO endorsements, yes zero…
his name is AROD
“Party on Wayne”
P. W. Hjort
October 20th, 2009
5:44 pm
I don’t think complementary players is a fair assessment, but the Braves don’t have very many “complete players” on offense. Escobar is the only one I can think of who is an asset with the bat, in the field, and on the basepaths. And that’s when he’s not making mental blunders.
KC
October 20th, 2009
5:46 pm
MetsWSChamps2010, LOL!!!! I’ll take that bet. Seriously… I’ll happily agree to a friendly wager with you.
The Braves are one big bat (if they can also re-sign or replace LaRoche) away from standing toe-to-toe with the Phillies.
The Mets have a significantly longer road ahead over the off-season, and thanks to your owner placing is trust in Bernie Madoff… they aren’t going to have much spending $$ this winter.
Steve from OH
October 20th, 2009
5:52 pm
That depends. Is Wilpon getting his 700MM back or not?
RemoW
October 20th, 2009
5:59 pm
Preacher: There was a gentlemen that used to frequent this blog, I am drawing a blank on the name, but was before Hank Aaron was a rookie. Wonderful stuff he added to the blog. He watched some of the big names play. Including watch Spahn pitch.
I also remember Lofton. I started with the Braves in 1986. Prior to that I wanted to play more then watch. I was another hooked by TBS.
Lofton is a trivia question for me. The fir MLB I ever went to was Braves vs. Padres in San Diego. Maddux pitching. It was a 13 something type game.
MetsWSChamps2010
October 20th, 2009
6:12 pm
You guys are mistaken. The Wilpons have told Minaya that he can get “whatever he needs”, that there a no payroll ristrictions, and the Mets at just a glance have about 45 million to spend. I will also take a friendly wager. Holliday WILL be a Met. And I’m going to guess so are Lackey and Marquis. With those acquisitions, plus our regular players coming back healthy next season, no one can deny that this will be a team to be reckoned with.
Reyes
Castillio
Wright
Beltran
Holiday
Laroche/Murphy
Frenchy
Tole
Santana
Lackey
Marquis
Pelfrey
Maine/Neise
That trumps anything you guys throw out there next season. The Phillies are the only team that scares me.
Supes
October 20th, 2009
6:22 pm
I see Anders’ little “brother” is dreaming again…nothign unsual for a METS fan.
2010 WS Champs? Are you kidding me? The stinking NY Mets? How about beating the darn Phillies, you know the team that has won the NL East as of late? How about beating an improved Braves team (best starting pitching 1-5 in the NL)? How about beating the young, pesky Marlins?
NY Mets better worry about the Washington NATS at this point. The Nats will get better next year. Worry about that before you come up with some darn, fantasy baseball like “master plan” that will never come true.
Supes
October 20th, 2009
6:24 pm
Frank Wren will assemble an improved, more complete and competitive every day lineup out there for the 2010.
We’ll also drop some dead weight on the bench (Greg Norton), freeing up the room for some big pinch hits down the stretch.
Braves starting pitching 1-5 will be the BEST all around in the NL.
As long as there are no key injuries, Braves should be infinitely better than anything the NY METS throw out there.
Supes
October 20th, 2009
6:26 pm
I see where Paul Lentz’s fav. relieve pitcher Buddy Carlyle has been cut. That should make for some interesting comments from him down the road.
Jake W.
October 20th, 2009
6:29 pm
Oh I see, MetsWSChamps2010 has given us his dream lineup or team.
MetsWSChamps2010
October 20th, 2009
6:34 pm
You guys are funny. You think your rotation is better than this?
Santana
Lackey
Marquis
Pelfrey
Maine/Neise
And your lineup is better than this
Reyes McClouth-no brainer Reyes
Castillio Prado- wash
Wright- Chipper-washed up dreadful year. Wright hands down
Beltran ? If Beltran is healthy then this is also a no brainer
Holiday McCann McCann is a great player. Holiday is better
Laroche/Murphy ? If Laroche comes back to the Braves then the Braves MIGHT be better at this position
Frenchy -Diaz/Heyward-Frenchy was great in NY Diaz is just okay and Heyward would be a rookie
Tole – Diaz Heyward see above
Mets have more speed, better pop, and YES I think that rotation would blow yours out of the water, Not to mention our bullpen will be better than yours.
MetsWSChamps2010
October 20th, 2009
6:37 pm
The only right handed bats I’m hearing the Braves may look at are Cantu, Willingham, Cruz, Dye. None of these guys are what I would want as a cleanup hitter.
McFann Ô –[brr!]
October 20th, 2009
6:39 pm
MetsWSChamps2010–
I don’t know if you’re the same guy who, before 2009’s season began, said that Schnieder vs. “Mcccan” was a wash. However, if you are, perhapsyou better watch what you say this time around…
But I do applaud you for learning to spell McCann, if you are indeed that person.
Jake W.
October 20th, 2009
6:41 pm
“Mets have more speed, better pop, and YES I think that rotation would blow yours out of the water, Not to mention our bullpen will be better than yours.”-MetsWSChamps2010
Yeah but its really hard to compare make believe teams. Lets stick to reality, huh?
McFann Ô –[brr!]
October 20th, 2009
6:42 pm
Frenchy was great and Diaz is just OK?? Oh dear…
Supes
October 20th, 2009
6:42 pm
I’ll say it again…
NY METS Troll, you are living in fantasy land. Fantasy baseball. Perhaps you are a player?
Do you truly believe that the Mets will be the only and “highest” bidders for each and every one of those players “on your fantasy wish list”?
Unreal.
On top of that, you have no way of knowing what the 2010 Braves roster will look like, do you think it’ll be the same as 2009? You are a dreamer, move on elsewhere…maybe a Phillies blog where it’ll be fun trying to see how quickly the Phillies fans run you out of there with tears streaming down your cheeks!
Jake W.
October 20th, 2009
6:47 pm
“Frenchy -Diaz/Heyward-Frenchy was great in NY Diaz is just okay and Heyward would be a rookie”-MetsWSChamps2010
Yeah, Coghlan was a rookie in 09 and his numbers were better than Jeff’s…
MetsWSChamps2010
October 20th, 2009
6:51 pm
No that was not me. McCann is obviously heads and shoulders above Schnieder who probably won’t even play for the Mets next year. Only thing I could see is I think Schneider is better at throwing out basestealers than is McCann. But from an offensive standpoint, McCann is a beast.
Soph
October 20th, 2009
6:52 pm
You guys are funny. You think your rotation is better than this?
Santana
Lackey
Marquis
Pelfrey
Maine/Neise
Um, yes?
Eric In Albany N.Y.
October 20th, 2009
6:52 pm
DOB Tell me if you think there is something to this. perhaps its just part of the Braves formula for success… If hudson comes back the braves staff shapes up a lot like it did in the 90’s? The Braves Have a guy who had early success with another team in maddux-hudson, They also have a guy they traded for from Detroit before his career really got started in smoltz-jurrjens
And finally they have a man they drafted as a home grown guy named “Tom”, Glavine-hanson
Lets hope there is something to all this!
MetsWSChamps2010
October 20th, 2009
6:58 pm
The Mets have better speed than the Braves period. Reyes, Wright, Castillio, Pagan, Beltran by themselves are all legitimate base stealing threats. You have what, McClouth and that’s it? And that’s without any acquisitions. Yeah we will see what happens in 2010. And no one is going to make me run out of anywhere with tears streaming down my face. Certainly not you. Supes. I wonder what will happen when your cheapskate management team once again, signs over the hill, or crappy stopgaps, while other teams in the division, the Mets, Phillies, hell even the Nats, spend spend the money to get desirable FA’s. Holliday even SAID he wanted to play for one of the New York teams. Yankees don’t need him, Red Sox will resign Bay, Dodgers are about to possibly have the same thing that happened to the Padres owner, happen to them. Lackey, Yankees won’t bite, don’t need him, Red Sox are good with what they have. Dodgers will probably have to sell off parts of the teams. Holliday and Lackey will be Mets in 2010. Bank on it, and you heard it here first. Most sportswriters seem to think this is what will happen as well.
Soph
October 20th, 2009
7:04 pm
McFann, I know you like birds so watch this when you have a moment. It’s just a pigeon but it’s funny.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Kindly-pigeon-helps-out-the-Raiders-kickoff-cove?urn=nfl,196998
MetsWSChamps2010
October 20th, 2009
7:06 pm
Soph,
Your rotation does not come near to being better than that. Let’s look shall we?
Lowe-Horrible season, on a decline, unmovable contract
Vasquez-Great season, but I don’t expect him to be better than this next season. Good pitcher, but played over his head, and never has had a season like this in the bigs in his career. Sell High!!
Hudson-Unknown-Must prove he’s healty. Been Okay in a small sample size this year.
Jurrjens-Good young starter, but I’m not sure how he does it, since his walk to k ratio really blows. Will probably regress. Sell High?
Kawakami-Decent back of the rotation starter. Does not blow anyone away, and will probably get knocked around a little next season, as hitters on other teams see him more frequently
Hanson- Good looking rookie, will he have a sophmore slump? Walks to many-not proven. Chuck James was great his first year too.
Santana-Undeniable Ace
Lackey-Undeniable Ace
Marquis-Had a great year, great #3 starter
Pelfrey-Had an off year, but undeniable stuff. He will rebound
Neise/Figuora-Not bad for a number 5 starters.
Braves have no ACE. If the Mets pull that off they have TWO. This is a better rotation, hands down.
McFann Ô –[brr!]
October 20th, 2009
7:08 pm
MetsWSChamps2010–
OK, just so we’re clear…
Only thing I could see is I think Schneider is better at throwing out basestealers than is McCann.
Soph–
Thanks for the link! I’ll watch that now…
McFann Ô –[brr!]
October 20th, 2009
7:11 pm
Soph–
Eric In Albany N.Y.
October 20th, 2009
7:11 pm
Atlanta 86w 76L
New York 70w 92L
Braves won the season series against the Mets @ least the last 2 Years.
The braves had as many if not more key players on the DL Last year and still had the mets #!
need i say more?
Steve from OH
October 20th, 2009
7:11 pm
Jurrjens’ K/BB rate was slightly above league average, you nitwit.
Eric In Albany N.Y.
October 20th, 2009
7:12 pm
MLB is “What have you done for me lately”
Lately the Mets suck!
Eric In Albany N.Y.
October 20th, 2009
7:15 pm
Hey Braves Fans!!!!!
Aside from Johan, name 1 mets pitcher you would rather have over Kenshin Kawakami.
…
… Hmmmm im still looking for 1
Eric In Albany N.Y.
October 20th, 2009
7:17 pm
WASHINGTON – Omar Minaya and Jerry Manuel received votes of confidence from chief operating officer Jeff Wilpon two weeks ago, the GM said Monday night, after joining the Mets in Washington to watch a 6-2 victory against the Nationals.
Still, sources have indicated to the Daily News that Wilpon’s view of Minaya clearly has shifted. A source recently told The News that Minaya’s three-year extension, which runs through 2012 and is believed to be annually worth $1.1 million, would not be an impediment to jettisoning the GM after the season.
Minaya said that in the conversation with Wilpon, the Mets’ COO said, “‘I want you to be our general manager. I want Jerry to be our manager.’ That type of stuff. That was said a couple of weeks ago to me and to Jerry.
“Like I told Jeff, I said, ‘Hey, Jeff. Thank you for that hope. I don’t think about those things and I know Jerry (doesn’t), either.’ We do the best job we can, and we understand when teams lose, people are going to come up with those things. People are going to say those things, especially in big markets.”
Regardless, there’s clearly dysfunction in the organization. One recent example: The scouting community has been abuzz with an account of Mets VP Tony Bernazard going into a profanity-laced tirade directed at the organization’s manager of baseball operations at Citi Field, which left witnesses in the section behind home plate aghast. According to two sources, scouts had settled in a row behind the plate during a recent game. Bernazard arrived and found a Diamondbacks scout sitting in the seat he wanted. When Bernazard’s underling suggested that the Mets VP wait until the end of the half-inning to change the seating arrangement in order to minimize the disruption, Bernazard went ballistic in a rant against his Ivy League-educated deputy.
The Mets’ spinners did a full-court press yesterday. SI.com reported that the Mets had rejected a proposed deal of Blue Jays’ ace Roy Halladay for Fernando Martinez, Bobby Parnell, Ruben Tejada and Jon Niese. If that proposal were accurate, Toronto GM J.P. Ricciardi and Minaya would be the laughingstocks of baseball – one for proposing it, the other for rejecting it.
Minaya’s arrival in Washington coincided with the news that Fernando Nieve had landed on the DL with a torn right quadriceps muscle that will sideline him at least six weeks, which prompted the Mets to promote former Rockies outfielder Cory Sullivan from Triple-A Buffalo.
At least the Mets (44-48) could peer across the field at the other dugout and feel better about their problems. The Nationals, who fired Manny Acta as manager during the All-Star break, dropped to a major league worst 26-66 with last night’s loss.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2009/07/20/2009-07-20_sources_minayas_job_isnt_so_safe.html#ixzz0UWNKVZNr
McFann Ô –[brr!]
October 20th, 2009
7:17 pm
I love how he just assumes the Braves’ pitcher will regress, but the Mets’ pitchers will re bound…
Goh blimey…
Soph
October 20th, 2009
7:18 pm
Santana-Undeniable Ace
Lackey-Undeniable Ace
Marquis-Had a great year, great #3 starter
Pelfrey-Had an off year, but undeniable stuff. He will rebound
Neise/Figuora-Not bad for a number 5 starters.
Are you psychic or something? How can you sit there and say Vazquez, Jurrjens, and Hanson will regress next season? How do you know Marquis (who isn’t even a Met yet so I don’t know why I’m even arguing this) will have another great season and that Pelfrey will in fact rebound?
Honestly, having this discussion is pointless right now. We’ll talk if/when the Mets actually sign all these players.
P.S. – You say Lackey is an undeniable ace but Jurrjens & Vazquez aren’t. You do know that both JJ & Javy had more wins and lower ERAs than Lackey this season, right?
Soph
October 20th, 2009
7:20 pm
Soph–
Now that was funny!
Wasn’t it though? That little pigeon thought he was part of the team. Too cute.
Steve from OH
October 20th, 2009
7:20 pm
Now Pelfrey, he’s the guy with the K/BB rate that “blows,” in case you were wondering…
Eric In Albany N.Y.
October 20th, 2009
7:20 pm
its a good thing the mets locked up Perez for 4 years… he did so good the 4 yrs before. its ok cus they were willing to spend the extra money to lock him up before someone else did!
Thank god for that fine organization over in queens!
McFann Ô –[brr!]
October 20th, 2009
7:20 pm
There’s not supposed to be a space between “re” and “bound”…
Goh blimey again.
McFann Ô –[brr!]
October 20th, 2009
7:22 pm
Soph That little pigeon thought he was part of the team.
He did! That was adorable. Thanks again for sharing!