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Roman Gal

October 6th, 2009
11:00 pm

Hah…the AJC has finally caught on to Rome’s little scandal!

http://www.ajc.com/news/exorcism-stirs-debate-among-156431.html

Winterville

October 6th, 2009
11:15 pm

Well I guess this lets Anders and his Mets off the hook for their epic collapse a few years back. That is pretty rough for the Tigers. Up by 3 with 4 to go. I wanted to see Verlander against the big boys.

Doc Holiday

October 6th, 2009
11:21 pm

If only the braves played with half the intensity twins do………

Winterville

October 6th, 2009
11:23 pm

The Braves won the same amount of games as the Twins in a 162 game season. The Twins got lucky.

Quisp

October 6th, 2009
11:35 pm

Even discussing that Kelly Johnson might play second next year makes me sick to think about whats in store for this team in 2010. Sounds like more of the same. A whole bunch of nothing.

No heart. No spunk. No manager. No hope.

P. W. Hjort

October 6th, 2009
11:44 pm

N8

October 6th, 2009
11:49 pm

“If only the braves played with half the intensity twins do………” Doc

Oh, I don’t know about that. I said the same thing in June. Living up north and following the Twins by just being alive in these parts, I’ve always liked the way that Gardenhire has control of his clubhouse, yet relates to the young guys. Tom Kelly was also a great manager, but got along with guys like Hunter as much as the gruff Leo got along with Jason Marquis.

The Braves won the same number of games after 162 were done. It’s not the Braves fault that the Twins were able to play head to head with the team they were chasing and abuse them the way the Braves did the Giants in 93.

I thought the Braves intensity was fantastic down the stretch. Just happened to be chasing a team that was playing as good of ball as they were after the break as well. Things might have been different had we got to play the Rockies 6-7 times in the final weeks.

What I’m embarrassed for the city of Atlanta for is the people that showed up for the Twins (one day after being mentally drained from the Brett Favre nonsense). Had the Braves played in a one game playoff in Atlanta, I seriously doubt that they would have drawn the record attendance that the Twins did tonight for the one game show down (and possible last game in the HHH).

I’m content with the Braves intensity. It’s the fans who need to ramp it up a bit.

Couch Tater

October 6th, 2009
11:49 pm

The baseball postseason is one of sports’ greatest crapshoots, one that defies any sort of logic and routinely laughs in the face of anyone who would dare try to conquer it. There simply is no consistently proven formula for winning in October. – Dave Sheinin The Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/06/AR2009100603853.html

RHR

October 6th, 2009
11:57 pm

Wholeheartedly agree with that, Couch Tater.

And I can’t believe any of you clicked on MB’s obvious ploy for page hits. Amateurs. :roll:

FIRE MARK BRADLEY!

Braves jinxer extraordinaire.

bravesfanforever

October 7th, 2009
7:17 am

Did everyone read that article that pointed out that Cox wants Kelly Johnson back at second base??? Is he losing touch with reality or what? He played 3 sub .200 hitters in the line up regularly earlier in the season and he insisted on parading No-hit Norton out there in critical situations. How far does loyalty go with this guy? It’s getting ridiculous.

The problem I see, if you want to call this a problem, is that the older you get, the more sentimental you become. In other words, you lose the edge and become softer. Not that it’s a bad thing but it can backfire if you think that relationships are more important than winning. And we all know that Cox has ALWAYS been about relationships. Geez Louise, now that trait is becoming stronger than EVER! Clearly, asking Johnson to come back and play a position full time that he completely FAILED AT is bordering on insanity.

You know, I swear that No-hit Norton cost us the wildcard! Think about it. If we had someone like Prado, Conrad (when he was hitting well), Diaz (when he is playing the bench), Infante, or anyone else NOT HITTING .125 (like a pitcher!), in those critical, “even small fly ball could win the game situations” in the 9th, we may have won 2-3 more games–AT LEAST. Sure the team finished 6 games behind but that’s only because the team gave up at the end! Those games didn’t matter. The team got to within 2 games and I assure you that the team would have tried harder if we were tied going into the last weekend.

Yeah, I know, there was a lot more to losing the playoffs than just Norton, but no one can deny that parading this ZERO hitter out there again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, cost us a few games. It had to have! How could it not? Batting .100 is like not hitting at all. We have pitchers who hit better than .125!!! Greg Norton’s final slugging percentage was .171. Do you all realize that he appeared in 95 games? Does this mean he actually pinch hit at least 70+ times this season??? I’d really like to know how many. I believe his primary job was pinch hitting and nothing else so clearly he COST US SOME GAMES.

So bring back Geez I Can’t Hit Either Johnson? I don’t think so. It seems to me that Wren needs to build up the offense so much that Cox can’t possibly kill our rallies with parading the non-hitters out there. Don’t be surprised that if Wren gets rid of Johnson, Norton, and any other player who hits under .200 that he will have an epiphany and start using Tommy Hanson with his .054 BA as his pinch hitter deluxe.

CB

October 7th, 2009
7:28 am

Geez, do I need to look outside and see if everyone died?

Vinings Jim

October 7th, 2009
8:12 am

Wow, CB – that was an amazingly early night for the blog. I thought it might take a few minutes to see what I had missed since 11:00 last night, but I guess not…

Robert

October 7th, 2009
8:13 am

“That’s why Mark Lemke was great and Ryne Sandberg was a pretender, right? The great ones win championships. Th pretenders put up pretty stat lines.

No Shaun. Once again, context. A bit part player isnt great if he happens to play on a great team.

Context Shaun. One of these days the concept will just dawn on you

Steve from OH

October 7th, 2009
8:24 am

Context Shaun. One of these days the concept will just dawn on you

When will that concept dawn on you?

P.S.–I do enjoy your non-Cox related posts, btw. But I didn’t agree with you on Marino…

brent a.

October 7th, 2009
8:39 am

Two reasons I hate the Metrodome:

1) The 1991 World Series
2) The 2003 NCAA Midwest Regionals (look it up)

McFann Ô

October 7th, 2009
9:09 am

Thanks for the explanation of a Cookie-Cutter stadium, y’all!

RHR Braves jinxer extraordinaire.

Ain’t it the truth! :x

Mid Town Joe

October 7th, 2009
9:12 am

Let the Twinkies have their fun. They will soon enough be burried in snow!

Lash La Rue

October 7th, 2009
9:22 am

N8, maybe with Cox gone in 2011 it will happen. Most fans have had it with Cox. (same BS why go.)

McFann Ô

October 7th, 2009
9:25 am

Neight The Braves won the same number of games after 162 were done. It’s not the Braves fault that the Twins were able to play head to head with the team they were chasing and abuse them the way the Braves did the Giants in 93.

Ye-ah. Haha…that’s funny–I didn’t even realize the Braves and twins had won the same amount of games till you pointed that out. That’s funny…

DAP

October 7th, 2009
9:27 am

N8 Tigers got hosed on that no-call on the hit batsman. Just another reason why there needs to be replay in baseball.

you really think a player should be awarded a base because he cant tuck his jersey in? or because he got one two sizes too big? if it even hit him, it barely grazed his big billowy shirt.

Rob from SC

October 7th, 2009
9:29 am

DOB

Do you get any feelings about whether Brandon Jones fits into the 2010 plans

Thanks

Soph

October 7th, 2009
9:39 am

Braves jinxer extraordinaire.

Down with Bradley!

RHR

October 7th, 2009
9:52 am

Hah…the AJC has finally caught on to Rome’s little scandal!

I wondered if you were involved when I saw that. Would explain some of your photos. :P

RHR

October 7th, 2009
9:55 am

Oh I meant to come back and REHIRE Mark Bradley last night. Meh. He’ll live.

DAP

October 7th, 2009
10:10 am

this is from the MLBTraderumors website:

# David Waldstein of the New York Times reports that the Mets will “look into” Roy Halladay if the Blue Jays make him available this winter. However, the article notes that it is unlikely that the Mets have the cash flow to make such a deal or the prospects necessary to entice Toronto.

RHR

October 7th, 2009
10:14 am

I was just reading that on insider…they practically scoff at the idea of the mets spending the amount of money they’ll need to fill all the holes.

According to the New York Times, the Mets will “look into” Roy Halladay of the Blue Jays if he’s made available. For one, yes, Halladay is available. Anybody familiar with the rumor mill knows Toronto is waiting for a mammoth offer. However, is that an offer the Mets are even capable of discussing, based on the prospects they have? It’s a need and want dilemma, as Buster Olney wrote in his latest blog.

What the Mets need writes Olney in his blog, is a lot different than what they might be able to expect. He is referring to a comment by Jeff Wilpon, who said what the Mets do this offseason depends on “what Omar [Minaya] needs. “Oh really?” Buster seems to ask.

He writes, “What Omar needs? Well, what he needs is John Lackey, who is the best (and most expensive) of the free-agent starting pitchers. What Omar needs is Matt Holliday, who will be the best of the free-agent outfielders. What he needs is a trade for Roy Halladay, who will be the most coveted pitcher on the trade market (unless the Marlins suddenly decide to trade Josh Johnson or the Mariners feel compelled to trade Felix Hernandez).

“What Omar needs is about $50 million.”

The issue is, however, that the front office has its issues. Olney explains:

“But there is no expectation within the organization that the Mets will actually come close to spending dollars like that. Jeff Wilpon is, for all practical purposes, the guy who is making the baseball operations decisions for the Mets these days, and he probably would’ve been better off tempering public expectations for what the team might do this off-season.”

DAP

October 7th, 2009
10:20 am

RHR, yeah, apparently nobody is buying what wilpon is trying to sell about the mets.

The Love Child of Dale Murphy and Johnny Cash

October 7th, 2009
10:21 am

Is it Spring Training yet?

Thrillhouse44

October 7th, 2009
10:27 am

RHR, yeah, apparently nobody is buying what wilpon is trying to sell about the mets. DAP

Well, just this guy:

Now he was clear that they wouldn’t just spend wildly but he wanted to be clear that there were no financial constraints from the Madoff scandal. The fact that he would so publicly state this tells me there’s not much too worry about regarding this. Anders

DAP

October 7th, 2009
10:38 am

i honestly dont think the mets are in that bad of shape anyways. they have a pretty good top half of the batting order if they can get reyes back healthy…defense is good.they just need some decent pitching. if they could find the money to get sheets, dye and nick johnson, i think they would be pretty good, assuming health.

McFann Ô

October 7th, 2009
10:55 am

Happy B-day, Kris Medlen!

Roman Gal

October 7th, 2009
11:23 am

I wondered if you were involved when I saw that. Would explain some of your photos. RHR

Hah! I wasn’t involved, I just think it’s interesting and I know some of the people involved. I know the girl who supposedly had the demons exorcised and well, let’s just say she’s a very emotional person.

Roman Gal

October 7th, 2009
11:29 am

Happy B-day, Kris Medlen!

Today’s his birthday? Darn, I forgot to get him a present. Next year, my present to him will be my presence at whatever playoff game the Braves will be playing in. Yeah, that’ll be a great present…

wjones

October 7th, 2009
11:31 am

Decatur Guy

“October 6th, 2009
8:55 pm
Derek Lowe for Milton bradley anyone?”

Please, for the love of God, stop taking drugs before you post here again.

RHR

October 7th, 2009
11:34 am

Hee Thrillhouse, of course I thought of his comments yesterday. Thats why I copied that article here. Sounds a bit different from what he was blowing about yesterday.

The fact that he would so publicly state this tells me there’s not much too worry about regarding this.

I mean, what do you expect him to say publicly? “Sorry dudes, I’m broke. But hey, Jeff Francoeur was a nice little pickup, eh?”

RHR

October 7th, 2009
11:35 am

she’s a very emotional person.

With the face of a demon! lol you’re right though, it is very interesting.

DAP

October 7th, 2009
11:37 am

i decided to take a look at how the braves rank in some offensive categories, just to see for sure where we really came up short.

braves are tied for 4th in batting average at .263. tops was .270 shared by the mets and dodgers. im thinking a normal year for chipper jones would have broken the three way tie for 4th, and maybe even gotten us closer to the top. only one playoff team is ahead of us in the category, the dodgers.

for OBP, the braves rank 5th, at .339. the top team, the dodgers, had a .346 OBP…and 4 OBP points would have tied the braves for 2nd with the rockies with .343.

slg% is where it gets ugly. (anyone surprised?) the braves rank 10th in the league in slugging, with a .405 mark. the phillies lead with a .447 slg%. its not because of doubles, where the braves are tied for third…the braves are 10th in homers and dead last in triples.

the braves scored 635 runs overall, good for 6th. (ahead of the cardinals)

so it shows that hitting isnt really the problem, and neither is getting on base, though both of those could improve. the braves just dont have enough team speed to overcome their .405 slg%

we need some powa….

Salamander

October 7th, 2009
11:39 am

With the face of a demon! lol you’re right though, it is very interesting.

Its interesting in a LARPing kind of way.

Anders

October 7th, 2009
11:43 am

RHR, yeah, apparently nobody is buying what wilpon is trying to sell about the mets. DAP

Well, just this guy:

Now he was clear that they wouldn’t just spend wildly but he wanted to be clear that there were no financial constraints from the Madoff scandal. The fact that he would so publicly state this tells me there’s not much too worry about regarding this. Anders (Thrillhouse)

I believe you left off the line after this when I said, “however the proof will be in the pudding”. As for what Onley outlined above at about $50mil. I’m thinking that falls into the spending wildly column. Keep in mind the Mets have Delgado’s and Wagners money this year ($22.5 mil) to spend first. I’m thinking in todays market that gets you a good #2 and a good bat.

Anders

October 7th, 2009
11:47 am

I mean, what do you expect him to say publicly? “Sorry dudes, I’m broke. But hey, Jeff Francoeur was a nice little pickup, eh?” (RHR)

The owner went on the flagship station for his team and made that statement. You think he did that thinking everyone would forget in a couple of months? If they have serious financial concerns then he should be sending signals out preparing his fan base for the fallout. Hey, maybe they’re in complete denial. Time will tell.

DAP

October 7th, 2009
11:54 am

sorry, i meant to say the braves scored 735 runs overall.

McFann Ô

October 7th, 2009
11:55 am

Roman Gal

That would be a great present! I’d love get him the same thing…sounds like a plan!

McFann Ô

October 7th, 2009
11:56 am

But wait…how do you watch playoff games when you’re in college…much less go to one? 8O

DAP

October 7th, 2009
12:00 pm

mcfann, when youre in college, you dont always have to go to class.

RHR

October 7th, 2009
12:16 pm

Yeah McFann, my daughter only has a 1 hour class on monday, wednesday, and friday. Of course her tues and thurs are jam packed but all the classes are all during the day. Don’t be afraid, McFann. You’ll still have your braves.

Thrillhouse44

October 7th, 2009
12:17 pm

McFann, not to mention that road trips are essential to college life.

N8

October 7th, 2009
12:18 pm

“you really think a player should be awarded a base because he cant tuck his jersey in? or because he got one two sizes too big? if it even hit him, it barely grazed his big billowy shirt.” DAP

No I don’t. But it’s the rule. I don’t like that 1B is also inside area that runners have to run in or be called out. But it’s the rule. I don’t like that the strike zone is essentially one guy’s opinion, and if he happens to be having a bad night, the pitcher is screwed. I don’t like the fact that a RH batter is not required to get out of the way on an attempted steal of 3B. I don’t like the catcher’s interference rule. I don’t like that if a guy gets hit on the elbow while wearing body armor, he still gets to take his base. Or if his elbow leans out over the plate and into the strike zone he still gets his base if he gets hit. I don’t like that a runner that would have clearly scored from 1st on a double has to go back to 3B on a ground rule double. I don’t like that if a ball gets stuck in the ivy in Wrigley or wedged anywhere, that all an OF has to do is raise his hands to instantly make it a ground rule double.

But those are all rules. And until they change those rules, the umpires should do their best to uphold them.

On a side note, speaking of HBP and playoff baseball. Can anybody name the longtime Brave, who was part of the early 90’s success, who was never HBP in his career?

RHR

October 7th, 2009
12:18 pm

$22.5 mil) to spend first. I’m thinking in todays market that gets you a good #2 and a good bat.

Yes 15 mil to DLowe and resign Jeff for 2 years at 7.5. :D

DAP

October 7th, 2009
12:21 pm

N8, he didnt get hit anyways, so dont worry about it.

Thrillhouse44

October 7th, 2009
12:23 pm

“however the proof will be in the pudding” Anders

Glad you’ll have something to go with your Kool Aid.

But, you’re right, my witty itch-that-cannot-be-scratched. We’ll have to see how it plays out.

Is there much buzz in NY about A.J.B choosing Molina over Posada?

Anders

October 7th, 2009
12:23 pm

RHR- The Mets will take Lowe for $30mil.That’s what would be left on the deal they offered him before he chased the extra year to Atlanta.

BTW- Glad to see someone on your side finally acknowledging Frenchy as a “good bat”. {:

RHR

October 7th, 2009
12:25 pm

This was funny Sunday if you missed the last game, and why would you? :)

http://deadspin.com/5375859/even-the-aflac-duck-has-it-out-for-the-mets

RHR

October 7th, 2009
12:27 pm

as a “good bat”.

He is for the mets. Our expectations are a little higher down here. :P

Anders

October 7th, 2009
12:29 pm

Is there much buzz in NY about A.J.B choosing Molina over Posada?(Thrillhouse 44)

– Yes but not as much as there should be but since Fat Francesa is a Yankee fan he’s not fanning the fire. Back when a similar thing happened with Piazza he was screaming about it for days. The Yanks have this town locked up. As Mike Lupica of the Daily News calls it, many of these writers and media types are working for the company (Yanks) in a company town.

Anders

October 7th, 2009
12:31 pm

He is for the mets. Our expectations are a little higher down here. (RHR)

Speaking of that, how did Church work out?

McFann Ô

October 7th, 2009
12:32 pm

DAP when youre in college, you dont always have to go to class.

:lol: Yeah, like I could get away with that!

RHR

Wow…only one hour? Didn’t know they did that…I know my Brother doesn’t have to go to class until 10-something on some days.

Don’t be afraid, McFann. You’ll still have your braves.

I’m gonna have to or we cann just forget all about that SAT. :P

Thrillhouse not to mention that road trips are essential to college life.

Haha…wouldn’t be much of a road trip for me, anyway, ’cause I ain’t going to college out-of-state.

Neight I don’t like the fact that a RH batter is not required to get out of the way on an attempted steal of 3B. I don’t like the catcher’s interference rule.

I…HATE…those…rules!! Matter of fact, I despise all those rules you mentioned.

I don’t like that a runner that would have clearly scored from 1st on a double has to go back to 3B on a ground rule double.

Yuck! Wait…hmm…doubles…why did BMac hafta go without a double for the final…almost 3 weeks of the season? :(

McFann Ô

October 7th, 2009
12:34 pm

Anders Speaking of that, how did Church work out?

OK…but Matty worked out GREAT! And just think…if you guys wouldn’t have taken Francoeur off our hands, Matty would have never gotten the chance he deserved.

wjones

October 7th, 2009
12:38 pm

“Speaking of that, how did Church work out?”

Church worked out great. Even if he never plays another inning for us, even if we non-tender him, even if he gets traded for a sack of garbage, he worked out great. Because it allowed us to rid ourselves of Frenchy. One cannot overstate how much that helped this team, and investment in reverse, if you will, that will reap benefits for years.

Ask us next year at this time, and give us a status report on Frenchy at that point as well.

Anders

October 7th, 2009
12:44 pm

wjones- Lighten up. Read the string of posts. It was all in jest.

You realize you traded Frenchy – not Saddam Hussein – right?

wjones

October 7th, 2009
1:00 pm

“Anders

October 7th, 2009
12:44 pm
wjones- Lighten up. Read the string of posts. It was all in jest.

You realize you traded Frenchy – not Saddam Hussein – right?”

Interesting comparison. Let’s see:

1. They both were once idolozed by their countrymen (fans), until their actions turned the people against them, though they both still had their supporters until the bitter end.

2. They both hinted at power they either didn’t have or had in much shorter supply than they alleged. And in the end, they both lost all power.

3. Both were charasmatic, photogenic leader types.

4. Both are in a better place, as far as their people are concerned.

I think that about covers it. Anyone else?

sportsmandh

October 7th, 2009
1:01 pm

Random thoughts:

Leyland lost that game last night. Should never have asked Rodney to try and go 3 innings. It was obvious he was gassed. What a great game though ….

Someone posted on one of the last pages that other than team speed and manager, do we think the Braves are as good as the Tigers or Twins? My first question is whether or not that was a serious question? My second question is if it was a serious question, who do you think has good speed on the Braves outside of McClouth?

OK, regardless of the answer to those questions, I guess that had to be a joke question, b/c no way would someone think Cox at this point is a better manager than Gardenhire at this point. I guess it’s debatable about verse Leyland, b/c he has won a ring since Bobby has and been to the playoffs since Bobby has. It would be a good argument though, who’s team choked worse in the series, Cox’s Braves in ‘96 blowing a 2-0 lead verse the then not so great Yankees, or Leyland’s Tigers a few years ago choking against the Cardinals that had no business being a World Series champ?

I’ll let the denizens argue about that one.

Last, anyone go to the U2 concert last night in the ATL and how was it?

sportsmandh

October 7th, 2009
1:04 pm

By the way, I do think the Braves are better than the Tigers this year. I guess it’s debatable verse the Twins.

Roman Gal

October 7th, 2009
1:06 pm

With the face of a demon! RHR

Meh…it happens. Who here hasn’t ever had their eyes turn red?

Roman Gal

October 7th, 2009
1:11 pm

But wait…how do you watch playoff games when you’re in college…much less go to one? McFann

It isn’t that hard to manage. It was worse my freshman year when I had to do more studying. But now my classes are more straightforward and I have plenty of time to do what I want to do. My college is only an hour or so away (depending on how fast I drive) from Turner Field.

DAP

October 7th, 2009
1:14 pm

mcfann….i skipped many a class for baseball games. on tv and at the ted.

Roman Gal

October 7th, 2009
1:14 pm

Wow…only one hour? Didn’t know they did that…I know my Brother doesn’t have to go to class until 10-something on some days. McFann

College is a lot less structured than high schools. I have one class on Tuesdays and Thursdays and on Wednesdays I go from 9am to 6pm. But this week is special and several of my classes have been cancelled. You’ll love college. Should I start plugging my own school? I’m shameless…

Shaun

October 7th, 2009
1:26 pm

sportsmandh,

Someone posted on one of the last pages that other than team speed and manager, do we think the Braves are as good as the Tigers or Twins? My first question is whether or not that was a serious question? My second question is if it was a serious question, who do you think has good speed on the Braves outside of McClouth?

The Braves had just about the same record and a noticeably better run differential than those two teams. And I think the Braves played in a tougher division. So I think it’s fairly obvious that the Braves were better in 2009 than those two teams.

I suppose McLouth is the only “speedster” on the Braves. But, if I may answer your question with a question, how important is team speed? Getting on base and slugging the baseball seems much more important than speed given that things that measure getting on base and slugging the baseball have a strong correlation to run-scoring, while I don’t think things that measure speed have all that strong a correlation to runs scoring.

I mean, given a choice between speed and no speed, all things being equal, I’d take speed. But I’m not sure it would be at the top of my priorities if I’m trying to build a good ball club.

OK, regardless of the answer to those questions, I guess that had to be a joke question, b/c no way would someone think Cox at this point is a better manager than Gardenhire at this point. I guess it’s debatable about verse Leyland, b/c he has won a ring since Bobby has and been to the playoffs since Bobby has. It would be a good argument though, who’s team choked worse in the series, Cox’s Braves in ‘96 blowing a 2-0 lead verse the then not so great Yankees, or Leyland’s Tigers a few years ago choking against the Cardinals that had no business being a World Series champ?

I’m not sure there is any great way to measure a manager’s impact. I mean, does choking necessarily mean the manager didn’t do something right? Does winning a ring necessarily mean one manager is better than another? I suspect that if you answer “yes” to these questions, you are overrating a manger’s impact.

Daslied

October 7th, 2009
1:34 pm

wjones – nice work @ 1:00 pm. :)

You did forget that Saddam once said “If the United Nations mattered, then why didn’t they put it in the Qur’an?”

ncscoots

October 7th, 2009
1:43 pm

McFann, not to mention that road trips are essential to college life.

Those are actually roving support group meetings for aging frat-daddies, or, as we called them in my day, a “party”. Sometimes also called a “bleepin’ party”, depending on scale.

Oh, McFann, so MUCH to look forward to, LOL.

Frank Robinson (Rockmart)

October 7th, 2009
1:53 pm

Roman Gal,
Nice. So glad to see my my former school representing. I especially love the quote about the demon showing itself.

Roman Gal

October 7th, 2009
1:57 pm

So glad to see my my former school representing. I especially love the quote about the demon showing itself. Frank Robinson

I’ve heard that Fox News is on their way up here to get the story, too. I hope if they talk about it on the news that they do a better job than the AJC. So you went to my demon-possessed school, eh?

McFann Ô

October 7th, 2009
2:00 pm

Roman Gal It was worse my freshman year when I had to do more studying.

Hmm…that’s “great”… :|

But now my classes are more straightforward and I have plenty of time to do what I want to do.

Sweet… :)

You’ll love college.

Perhaps…never been a big fan of reading, though.

Should I start plugging my own school?

Not if it’s got over 200 students! ;)

DAP i skipped many a class for baseball games. on tv and at the ted.

Hehe…that sounds like a really good time.

ncscoots Oh, McFann, so MUCH to look forward to, LOL.

Meh…

Frank Robinson (Rockmart)

October 7th, 2009
2:02 pm

Roman Gal,
Are you serious about the Fox News thing? That’s great.

Yeah, I attended for a year. But after 19 years in Rome I needed to get away. Funny thing is, I’d like to move back there now.

Rock On......

October 7th, 2009
2:04 pm

After reading N8’s things he doesn’t like about baseball(or wish they would change)I gotta say I would like to see instant replay instituted for the playoffs through WS. Each team would get one challenge each and all calls on HR’s, balls hit down the line, safe/out on the bases that occur after the 7th inning are auto-reviewed. This is similar to football,basketball, and tennis.

The playoffs are such a short season that invariably the breaks don’t have time to even out on bad calls that can be disputed like they do over a 162 game season. Take last night (I know it wasn’t technically a playoff game) the Minnesota runner appeared after numerous replays to be safe at home on the throw from LF even though the throw beat him by about 5 feet. The ump probably assumed there was no way he could be safe. I am not going to merit whether or not it was the right call now only to say that is a prime example of what should be reviewed during the playoffs. A HR is already reviewed as it is if disputed. Why not base calls? If it can’t be clearly overturned then let it stand but why leave it to the ump to stand behind a bad call when evidence clearly shows otherwise.

No, I am definitely not talking balls and strikes or an individual umps strike zone and the Quest thing the umps are graded with. Not that at all. Not into making the game 5 hours long or anything. Simply take a few seconds to get the call correct. I am of the opinion that most umps do an outstanding job and similar to the NFL I doubt the umps will get a lot wrong. But to make my case look at Favre last week, what if the receiver was called out on the end line and no replay was available. We would have been seeing that replay twice as much as we have which we sure don’t need. Now look at last night with the Minnesota runner from 3rd. What if he was safe? We’ll never know but Minnesota won anyway. Could have been the opposite outcome.

Again I am not a big fan of replay to take away the human element from sports but when there is a clear right/wrong on close plays go to the replay in the playoffs/WS. Just sayin…..

Roman Gal

October 7th, 2009
2:10 pm

Perhaps…never been a big fan of reading, though. McFann

Me neither. But how much reading you do depends on which classes you take. No more than 200 students? Dang…And I thought my school was small.

RHR

October 7th, 2009
2:11 pm

how did Church work out?

I’m not complaining about Church. We got a living human being for Jeff, which was honestly more than I thought they’d get for him. If Church is the reason that deal got done then he’s the greatest player of all time in my book, even if his feet never touch a baseball field again. :lol:

RHR

October 7th, 2009
2:14 pm

wjones at 1:00 hilarious!

McFann Ô

October 7th, 2009
2:16 pm

Roman Gal But how much reading you do depends on which classes you take.

Guess that’s true…since I’m into drawing, well…can’t be a whole lot of reading involved in that, right?

I like to write…kind of. Has to be a topic that I actually, ya know, care about…like it better when I cann pick my own topic. But yeah, not gonna get real far with that attitude, eh? :P

No more than 200 students? Dang…And I thought my school was small.

Eh, I was just kinda messin’ around…big schools kinda terrify me. 8O

And speakin’ of small colleges–gotta go pick Bro up…gets a long weekend this week! :)

Roman Gal

October 7th, 2009
2:16 pm

Are you serious about the Fox News thing?

Yep. It’s taken a while for all this to get out, though. The exorcism actually happened in September. I could see how living in Rome would get old. I certainly wouldn’t want to live here permanently.

[Road trips] are actually roving support group meetings for aging frat-daddies, or, as we called them in my day, a “party”. ncscoots

Not just for aging frat-daddies who wear loafers and weejuns…they’re fun for all!

RHR

October 7th, 2009
2:19 pm

McFann, I think RG’s school would be a good fit for you. There or Shorter but I’d have to give RG’s school the nod over Shorter.

RG – so glad your college town is taking over the national news. The kid in the box story? I went to high school in that town and live about 15 miles from there now. I drive right thru there on my commute to work and back every day. In defense of that town, the lady wasn’t from there, she just got stopped and arrested there. :lol:

sportsmandh

October 7th, 2009
2:21 pm

Shaun,
All good points. For me, I think it’s important to have a couple of guys with speed in the lineup for versatility. I don’t think it’s a top priority though. Overall, I think it’s more important to have good/smart base runners.

As for managers, I mentioned playoffs and championship b/c this is the things people usually look at first about managers. That is what professonal managers are paid for, to try and win.

No one can argue about Gardenhire’s results. Although they haven’t won in the playoffs, for him to win divisions 5 out of 8 years with the Twins is amazing. I think it’s safe to say he has a very big impact on that team.

Anders

October 7th, 2009
2:22 pm

BTW- Prepare for what could be a crazy game at Yankee stadium. While it’s relatively warm here it’s gusting repearedly up to 40mph. Very, very blustery. And word is it’s blowing out at Yankee stadium. I believe an athletic outfield may come in handy tonight. Edge to the Twins there. Plus A-Rod is notoriously bad on pop ups on a calm night.

Buckle up, this could be fun.

Roman Gal

October 7th, 2009
2:24 pm

Guess that’s true…since I’m into drawing, well…can’t be a whole lot of reading involved in that, right? McFann

Well…you can hope. I don’t want to terrify you with my own art class stories…

big schools kinda terrify me.

I wouldn’t worry about it. Freshman are nice to each other because they all want to make new friends and most professors tell you exactly what to expect.

SashaStevens

October 7th, 2009
2:24 pm

Its gonna be tough watching the playoffs this year, knowing that there is a team out there (Atlanta Braves) that could have beaten all the teams that are represented in the post-season. Its really a shame the Braves didnt make the playoffs because I know they would have been world champions. My dream for Bobby Coxs going away party at the end of next season was for the Braves to win back-to-back championships to give Cox a royal sendoff. Of course, to do that they would have won the title this year, which they would have done had they gotten in. It would have happened if Cox hadnt been so stubborn in the regular season and refused to walk Ryan Howard when everybody in the universe and in the galaxy knows that you MUST intentionally walk Howard or you will be beaten to a pulp. All the Braves had to do was get to the post-season and they would have been world champs. Oh what a shame!

RHR

October 7th, 2009
2:28 pm

Oh, McFann, so MUCH to look forward to, LOL.

Hint: Watch out for those budding frat daddies. You’ll recognize them by the polo shirts, khakis, visors and sperrys M-F and khakis and dress shirts with a tie on Saturdays in the fall.

Rock On......

October 7th, 2009
2:29 pm

Sasha….with the exception of St. Louis I don’t think there is one team in the playoffs the Braves could have beaten in either league and frankly they would have been a decided underdog to all teams. If they can’t win must win games a couple of weeks prior to the playoffs what makes you think they would win in the playoffs. This team had a very nice run but nothing told me they were better than who is currently in the playoffs. Sure our pitching would have been fine but not the team.

Roman Gal

October 7th, 2009
2:30 pm

In defense of that town, the lady wasn’t from there, she just got stopped and arrested there. RHR

Haha. That’s crazy! I like how she was essentially using her kid as a paperweight.

There or Shorter but I’d have to give RG’s school the nod over Shorter.

Definitely! Who in their right mind would want to go to that other school when mine is just a couple of miles away?

MattyRoss

October 7th, 2009
2:32 pm

RHR come on now, what’s wrong with a nice pair of sperry’s?

CB

October 7th, 2009
2:34 pm

Rock On, do you think that Busch Garden is worth seeing while in Williamsburg?

Danga

October 7th, 2009
2:36 pm

I like my sperrys. :)

Daslied

October 7th, 2009
2:37 pm

CB – not that you asked me, but I hated Busch Gardens. And I LOVE theme parks. Williamsburg is pretty awesome, though, and so is Jamestown.

CB

October 7th, 2009
2:40 pm

Thanks Daslied, what made you hate it?

Rock On......

October 7th, 2009
2:41 pm

CB…just about to click off and saw your post….yeah definitely worth the trip to Busch Gardens. It is a small park relatively speaking and an easy day. Super clean park with great rides and roller coasters if that is your thing. Has good theme areas too. The Bavarian Music Hall is great for food and entertainment. Not sure if you have been to W’Burg before or how long you have or your agenda but you can definitely do the historic W’Burg thing in one day and Busch Gradens another if you are making a weekend of it. Also you should be able to get deep discounts this time of year. Hope that helps.

Anders

October 7th, 2009
2:41 pm

SashaStevens- I’m not sure if it’s because of your sultry name but you make it sound soooo obvious where the Braves season went wrong. Why is anyone else even looking at those other 6000 AB’s?

Robert

October 7th, 2009
2:44 pm

Choking doesnt mean the manager did a poor job. Quite the opposite in fact. Choking is when a player or players were properly used and didnt perform. Poor managing is improper use of players. If one doesnt perform well when one is being misused, that isnt choking

CB

October 7th, 2009
2:44 pm

Rock On, thanks and we are camping, planning on three days there and then going completely across the Blue Ridge Parkway at a leisurely pace.

Rob from SC

October 7th, 2009
2:44 pm

SashaStevens

October 7th, 2009
2:44 pm

Rock On: I tend to disagree with you. I saw recently about a couple of weeks ago when the Braves were going strong; winning 15 out of 17 games where some of the crew at ESPN: John Kruk and Peter Gammons were just raving about the Braves! I have never seen Gammons so exited about a baseball team and they were thrilled about our awesome Atlanta Braves! They were stunned that the Braves had crept back into the wild card race but when they analyzed the Braves awesome starting lineup; it looked to them more potent than just about anyone elses.PLUS: you add the leagues #1 pitching (Braves) along with strong relief pitching and you have a team that could have gone very deep into the playoffs and possibly would have come out the other end of it with championship rings! Maybe it was just a fantasy of mine but any time you get somebody jacked up with as much baseball knowledge as someone as a Peter Gammons; you know you have something special. Maybe Peter just got caught up in the euphoria of the Braves winning streak, but when you analyze the Braves starting eight: there is no lineup better in either league in my opinon. 1:Nate McCloth; 2:Martin Prado; 3:Chipper Jones; 4:Brian McCann; 5:Garrett Anderson; 6:Yunel Escobar; 7:Adam LaRoche; 8: Matt Diaz; PLUS BEST STARTING PITCHING AND AWESOME RELIEF PITCHING IN THE MAJORS: wow! Awesome! I cant wait till next year!

Anders

October 7th, 2009
2:46 pm

Choking doesnt mean the manager did a poor job. Quite the opposite in fact. Choking is when a player or players were properly used and didnt perform. (Robert)

Nor does it mean that the GM who acquired the players in the first place did a poor job. Yet with a first place finish in 2006 and falling 1 game short on both 2007 and 2008 many repeatedly told me how bad Minaya was. Funny how that works.

Doc Holiday

October 7th, 2009
2:54 pm

Manager Bobby Cox brought up the idea Monday that second baseman Martin Prado could move to right field if the Braves decide they want to give Kelly Johnson another shot at second base.

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“He plays right field on a regular basis in Venezuela [in winter ball], has for the last few years,” Cox said. “He’s a possible candidate, depending on what we do with Kelly. We just can’t give up on Kelly. He had too good of a solid year last year.”
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I just cant believe this is happening……………Another season with Cox and now another season with KJ??????????? Whats next? Are they bringing Corky miller and JF back? or maybe Wickman?
Geeeeeeeeeeez

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