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nolie
October 3rd, 2009
10:02 pm
Funny how Bobby got the Braves to play good baseball long enough to get his 2010 extension then went back to sucking once he signed the deal. (Quisp)
did somebody really post that? Amazing, absolutely amazing what you can read on the ol’ blog.
nolie
October 3rd, 2009
10:08 pm
and my mother loved Williamsburg (VJ)
I see that you had your financial priorities in line, as did I. I went to a MAC school in Ohio cause I got a better deal.
O.J.
October 3rd, 2009
10:08 pm
12 times he failed to get a win when only giving up 2 runs or fewer?????? ARE YOU FRICKING KIDDING ME?? So if he had any run support at all, he could have had 26 wins??
McFann Ô
October 3rd, 2009
10:09 pm
JJ4NLCY Your bad luck!! No offense!
What are you doing, telling me something new?
Actually, I’m pulling against the Twins…and see, Tigers lose, Twins win…
Steve from OH
October 3rd, 2009
10:09 pm
nolie–which one (MAC school, that is)?
Vinings Jim
October 3rd, 2009
10:11 pm
nolie – can’t argue with that – it’s funny now to look back on my out-of-state tuition way back then, and think how ridiculously it compares to prices now…
McFann Ô
October 3rd, 2009
10:11 pm
The Braves scored two or fewer runs while Jurrjens was in 20 of 34 starts, and Saturday was the 12th time he failed to get a win while allowing two earned runs or fewer in six innings or more.
That’s disgusting. Poor JJ…should be the top guy for the CY Young Award, but nooooo…
Vinings Jim
October 3rd, 2009
10:14 pm
nolie -it’s funny to look back on what my out-of-tuition was way back then, and compare it to what it would be now…
Jurrjens4NLCY
October 3rd, 2009
10:14 pm
Actually, I’m pulling against the Twins
Why?
Because of Mauer??
Seriously, thats childish…
Tsk tsk McFann,
DAP
October 3rd, 2009
10:14 pm
nolie, maybe diory hernandez, then? just thinking of that slot as a 25th man utility spot.
nolie
October 3rd, 2009
10:16 pm
(Steve) BG
Jurrjens4NLCY
October 3rd, 2009
10:17 pm
It will be very disappointing if the Braves don’t resign Kotsay, he is a true professional hitter. And this bench would be sweeeeeeet:
Infante
Diaz
Kotsay
Ross
DFA Church and Johnson…
Steve from OH
October 3rd, 2009
10:17 pm
nolie–played hockey there since I was 4 years old. Great college town. Got a buddy that plays football there.
Some great pizza down there too…
McFann Ô
October 3rd, 2009
10:17 pm
JJ4NLCY–
You callin’ me a “child”? You want me to go all Thelma-Lou on you?
No seriously…I’ve never liked the Twins. Just don’t like ‘em. Then I found out about Mauer, and well…
Of course it’s childish…But what cann I say?
nolie
October 3rd, 2009
10:22 pm
maybe diory hernandez, then? just thinking of that slot as a 25th man utility spot. (DAP)
yeah that’s what I figured, but the guy just can’t play D good enough IMO and Diory ain’t all that great on D either and we know Bobby likes D if he can get it. maybe they will pick someone up in a multi-trade? Johnson is prolly too expensive to keep. Hicks has good D and pop but a poor BA and likely not ready either. There will be # 24-25 guys available to sign too during the winter. Lot’s of questions IMO, though a solid starting pitching base at least.
DAP
October 3rd, 2009
10:25 pm
supesAcquire a true leadoff man
can you define “true lead off man”? we have a guy now who gets on base at a good rate and has some speed. are you talking about a .400 OBP, a 40+ steal guy or both?
McFann Ô
October 3rd, 2009
10:25 pm
42-24 Tech. Nice…
BravesGrrrl
October 3rd, 2009
10:26 pm
Just got home from the game. What a bummer. JJ was beautiful as usual. Also, in person that hit from Greg Norton was thrilling (probably because how few and far between those have been). We were sure things were over when he came up to pinch hit. Beautiful day at The Ted, but very disappointing ending.
Jurrjens4NLCY
October 3rd, 2009
10:26 pm
No. I’m saying your acting like a child like person…
Of course it’s childish…But what cann I say?
You could say, “Yes, Kris. I am acting like a child like person…”
But that just off the top of my head…
You should like the Twins, they “aight”!
McFann Ô
October 3rd, 2009
10:27 pm
Sorry it was such a crummy game, BravesGrrrl. Was a nice day weather-wise, though…
That makes up for everything, right?
Jurrjens4NLCY
October 3rd, 2009
10:28 pm
DAP,
Someone like Scotty Pods…
McFann Ô
October 3rd, 2009
10:30 pm
JJ4NLCY No. I’m saying your acting like a child like person…
Ha! There you go again–telling me stuff I already know.
You should like the Twins, they “aight”!
I should? They are? Ick…
Steve from OH
October 3rd, 2009
10:31 pm
Someone like Scotty Pods…
Well, hopefully we keep players like Scott Pods away from our team…
BravesGrrrl
October 3rd, 2009
10:31 pm
McFann – Yes, the weather was great! And, as Skip used to say, there was free baseball since the game went into extra innings. Can’t complain I guess. Just wish the outcome had been better. Brian had a great double to tie the game. Any time you get to go to a Braves game, it’s a good thing.
BravesGrrrl
October 3rd, 2009
10:32 pm
Oops. I believe Brian hit a single to tie the game.
BravesChick
October 3rd, 2009
10:36 pm
BravesGrrrl – That hit was awesome in person. Too bad we still couldn’t pull off a win.
Jurrjens4NLCY
October 3rd, 2009
10:37 pm
McFann,
You telling me you don’t like a little M&M…??
McFann Ô
October 3rd, 2009
10:37 pm
BravesGrrrrl–
Yeah, can’t complain too much about free baseball…but yeah, geez. They could have at least split the series!
Brian had a great double to tie the game.
Gaah!! What are you trying to do–rub it in?
Everyone knows I’m preying for one more double!
nolie
October 3rd, 2009
10:38 pm
Some great pizza down there too (Steve)
you know 40 years later I still think of that. There used to be a small pizza place by where the train tracks crossed Woostercan’t remember the name though it might have started wint an M. in the 602-70s there was a strip there with Dorsey’s Drugs and a pool hall in that area. They had great pizza.At that time it was owned by a young couple and the wife used to help my ex and I with our horses at the fair grounds. They might still have it or might still be in the family. Great pizza, that’s where I got hooked on the stuff. wasn’t really a deep dish, but wasn’t a thin crust either and they really loaded it up.
McFann Ô
October 3rd, 2009
10:39 pm
JJ4NLCY You telling me you don’t like a little M&M…??
I like it if it’s candy-coated chocolate…
(Sounding stupid here, but what does the M&M that you’re talking about stand for?)
DAP
October 3rd, 2009
10:39 pm
jurjens Someone like Scotty Pods…
haha, yeah right. i think yu just want all the white sox players since you just watched them beat the tigers. i doubt kotsay is the answer, either, though i wouldnt hate having him off the bench…i dont think we need him.
Jurrjens4NLCY
October 3rd, 2009
10:40 pm
Well, hopefully we keep players like Scott Pods away from our team…
Scotty Pods.
You know who that is right?
The guy who has single handedly created runs for the WS?
McFann Ô
October 3rd, 2009
10:40 pm
That is…I’m praying for one more double…
But I guess preying is semi-appropriate in my case.
Steve from OH
October 3rd, 2009
10:42 pm
nolie, I know exactly what you’re talking about–Myles. I always try to get there when I go back home. Fantastic pizza.
It’s pretty thick but not Chicago-style, if that’s what you mean–but yeah, they load it up. Two slices and I’m full…
Jurrjens4NLCY
October 3rd, 2009
10:42 pm
haha, yeah right. i think yu just want all the white sox players since you just watched them beat the tigers
Lmfao. maaaaaaaaaaaaaybe
But no, I don’t want Scotty but I think thats what he meant by a lead off hitter…
McFann Ô
October 3rd, 2009
10:43 pm
Hmm…pizza…
Jurrjens4NLCY
October 3rd, 2009
10:44 pm
I like it if it’s candy-coated chocolate…
(Sounding stupid here, but what does the M&M that you’re talking about stand for?)
You could call it chocolate coated candy, it means Joe Mauer and Justin Morneau…
Thunderbull56
October 3rd, 2009
10:46 pm
Sciambi bugs out. Too bad he couldn’t take AJC’s writers and FSS’s drivilers with him.
McFann Ô
October 3rd, 2009
10:46 pm
JJ4NLCY it means Joe Mauer and Justin Morneau…
Ew! Yuck! Bleh! Definitely NOT candy-coated chocolate! Gross…
McFann Ô
October 3rd, 2009
10:48 pm
Well, I gotta shut down. I’ve had a lovely time at your party.
Night, all!
Soph
October 3rd, 2009
10:49 pm
Ew! Yuck! Bleh! Definitely NOT candy-coated chocolate! Gross…
McFann, you made me laugh so hard I almost dropped my laptop.
Night, girl!
Vinings Jim
October 3rd, 2009
10:50 pm
cabravesfan – hope you’re not too stressed out by the thought of a possible Cal comeback…
Jurrjens4NLCY
October 3rd, 2009
10:51 pm
Is it just me, or does MLB.com have the absolute WORST PUNS in the history of the written word:
“Sweet and Lowe” (On D Lowes signing)
“Lov Lee start” (On Lee first start as a phil)
“Happ – y ending” (On a Happ win)
“To dye for” (On a Twins win)
McFann,
C’mon…..!
cabravesfan
October 3rd, 2009
10:53 pm
VJ-
I’m hoping to keep them out of the end zone…
Vinings Jim
October 3rd, 2009
10:56 pm
nolie – I forgot to tell you – I enjoyed Stardust during a random moment while reading the blog about 5:15 this morning…
jeffrey d
October 3rd, 2009
11:00 pm
When am I getting my William and Mary crash course?
cabravesfan
October 3rd, 2009
11:05 pm
jeffrey d-
please tell me that was you that I just friended on Facebook…
DAP
October 3rd, 2009
11:05 pm
i think they guy we have is better than scott posednik.
jeffrey d
October 3rd, 2009
11:07 pm
CAB – No, I didn’t know your real name.
Vinings Jim
October 3rd, 2009
11:09 pm
for jeffrey d – everyone else, feel free to ignore:
Rankings
U. S. News and World Report
* W&M ranked sixth among all public universities (2010)
* W&M ranked 33rd overall among the nation’s best universities (2010)
* W&M ranked as tied for 6th nationally among best colleges for undergraduate teaching (2010)
* W&M ranked 18th in graduation rates for national universities (2009)
Forbes Magazine (2009)
* W&M ranked as the fourth highest public university in the country in the inaugural guide, “America’s Best Colleges 2009″
Princeton Review: Best Value Colleges (2009)
* W&M ranked third among top 50 public universities.
Cool Facts
Founded in 1693, William & Mary is the second oldest educational institution in the U.S.
Three Presidents of the United States benefited from educational programs offered by the College: Thomas Jefferson, James Monroe and John Tyler.
Phi Beta Kappa, the premier academic honor society in America, was founded by College of William & Mary students in 1776.
Named for its presumed architect, the Sir Christopher Wren Building was completed in 1699 and provided classrooms, library, dining hall and a chapel for generations of William & Mary students. It is the oldest academic building in continuous use in the U.S., and classes are still taught within its walls.
cabravesfan
October 3rd, 2009
11:10 pm
so i just friended a total stranger? nice
lagnamor
October 3rd, 2009
11:10 pm
damn good way to go out Bobby, ending season with 5 or 6 lost games. can’t wait till 2011 when BC is gone forever.
Soph
October 3rd, 2009
11:10 pm
At least McFann’s Tech won. She’s one for somethin. I can’t even count how many negative things happened this week.
Vinings Jim
October 3rd, 2009
11:10 pm
sorry – didn’t realize it was that long…
cabravesfan
October 3rd, 2009
11:11 pm
Soph-
pretty sure my Trojans are going to win too so I can be happy
Jurrjens4NLCY
October 3rd, 2009
11:12 pm
De Ra Rosa is injured….
…Jose Contretemps is coming in…
(Trying so hard not to laugh…)
Soph
October 3rd, 2009
11:14 pm
Ok, cab. So, you’ll be one for somethin too. I’ve been an 0 fer for a few days now.
Jurrjens4NLCY
October 3rd, 2009
11:15 pm
Laughing at Jose, not Jorge. That sucks…
jeffrey d
October 3rd, 2009
11:16 pm
Nah, that was me.
Alright, let me check out William and Mary….
cabravesfan
October 3rd, 2009
11:18 pm
Jeffrey d-
I was hoping but seeing as how some totally random person just tried to be my friend…
jeffrey d
October 3rd, 2009
11:19 pm
Man, that beats the pants offa Georgia. We’ve got
-First state-chartered school in the US
-Consistent top-10 party school
-Some pretty mean burritoes at O-House
-Ryan Seacrest
Soph
October 3rd, 2009
11:19 pm
My poor Dawgs friends are so sad. They all need hugs today.
cabravesfan
October 3rd, 2009
11:23 pm
My Trojans played the best game of the season tonight…think they were a little fired up to win this one for their boy
nolie
October 3rd, 2009
11:24 pm
nolie, I know exactly what you’re talking about–Myles. I always try to get there when I go back home. Fantastic pizza (STEVE)
yeah that’s it. wow, 40 years later and still in business.
there was a little building there with 4-5 stores including a pool hall at the time owned by a guy named Sam Spino. He was an old numbers guy and hustler and I worked part time for him for years. He knew every hustler in the US it seemed. Cornbread Red, Detroit Red, Gumpy, Mosconi,Wimpy Lassiter, a
young Mizerak and dozens of others. They would always stop there when in the area. I got to play some of those guys-they were just being nice while waiting around- and saw some amazing pool. I even beat Minnesota Fats in 8 ball…he ran the rack off the break and called the 8 on a one-rail bank and it went in two rails. I lived to tell that story at school.
BG was kind of a hub of pool activity. There were two girls there who went to the NCAA finals about 3-5 years in a row and some guys who got to the semis, so they used to book some guys like Mosconi and Lassiter each year at the pool room om campus. Great times….
Vinings Jim
October 3rd, 2009
11:26 pm
Good win, darling – looking forward to Stanford…
Soph
October 3rd, 2009
11:30 pm
Congrats, cab!
Jurrjens4NLCY
October 3rd, 2009
11:41 pm
Bunt Hudson, you dumbass!!
Jurrjens4NLCY
October 3rd, 2009
11:42 pm
See what happens!!!
Haha Torre! I’m 4 – 1 against you!
Steve from OH
October 3rd, 2009
11:50 pm
nolie–you’re a pool shark, huh? I play a little bit (we’ve got a table at school that is often used in lieu of studying), but I’m no great shakes…
8 or 9 ball?
Vinings Jim
October 3rd, 2009
11:54 pm
glad to see Ryan Reynolds dragged his wife onto SNL with him…
Doc Holiday
October 3rd, 2009
11:59 pm
To be honest and correct with the baseball world, Braves did not deserved to get a playoff spot:
1. Bobby Cox doing a horrible job, just horrible.
2. Chipper having the worst season of his career and carrying the team, but to bottom of the ocean.
3. Our cleanup hitter was as clutch as guys we have had in the past………. Pete Orr and Corky Miller are some examples.
4. Inability to win games when it matters most.
5. Win at least 50% of the easy games, games that on paper looked so easy to win.
6. No offensive leader, none. Or should I say, that when your 2 best offensive players of the season were :
a. Martin Prado, whom player only half of the games in the season
b. Laroche , whom was acquired for some 50 games.
c. Diaz, whom is a platoon player.
7. Our bullpen had very good numbers, but thats only because they dont keep a stat called “blown games that were already won by the 6th inning”.
8. One of our younger studs hustled down the line less than 40 year old Garret Anderson, and thats saying a lot. And keep in mind he kept doing it even after Bobby took him out in a crucial game in september for not doing so.
9. We had CF from day 2 (I´ll give Schafer day one as a successful one).
10. About our RBI: We only had 1 player with more than 80 RBI, just ridiculous. And nobody got to the 100 mark.
11. About our HR: Only 1 player with more than 20………. unheard of, and he had 21. Our OF (Nate+GA+Matt+Church), had a combined 38 HR in 1315 AB. If you add JF the number gets worse (43 HR in 1619 AB, making that a total of 1 HR every 37.65 AB). Then you have our corner IF hitting 36HR in 983, what is equal to 1 HR every 27.3 AB. Just to let you know how bad this is…………..Albert Pujols has 47 HR in 559AB. 6 players had more HR than our corner IF added up. 15 Players had 30 or more HR (and Im talk NL only).
U G L Y .
Doc Holiday
October 4th, 2009
12:08 am
It just wouldnt be fair for baseball if the braves sneaked into october play ……….. too many holes
P. W. Hjort
October 4th, 2009
12:10 am
VJ,
I had no idea W&M is public. I had always assumed it was private.
Jurrjens4NLCY
October 4th, 2009
12:14 am
If you can,
watch COL and LAD…
Its a great game…
Jurrjens4NLCY
October 4th, 2009
12:22 am
Ouch. Could you be any more flat on “home?”
Rob from SC
October 4th, 2009
1:04 am
It’s been a rough couple if days. Still trying to recover from surgery. Don’t judhe my posts because I am high on pills,
lets win eoday
Jurrjens4NLCY
October 4th, 2009
1:07 am
Rob,
I didn’t know you had surgery…
How did it go???
nolie
October 4th, 2009
1:10 am
8 or 9 ball (STEVE)
9ball now. 8 ball is way too easy. back in the day, the game used to be straight pool in all tournaments and even in most money games. The guys coming into Sam’s used to hustle the college guys in mostly straight up til the mid 70s or so and then it started changing more and more towards 9ball cause it is a quick & dirty money game. some guys play 6 ball now for even more games.
Guys like Mosconi and Lassiter made their bones in straight. In fact Mosconi ran 500 some balls in a row in an exhibition. Tournament record is in the 200s though I think. You can hang around a pool hall for a long long time now days and never see a straight pool game anymore, especially in the newer ones..
When my health was still good I played in a lot of regional level tournaments which were often visited and won by national level guys. I was a very good 9ball player, but not on that level. Fascinating to watch those great guys play though especially with a psychological viewpoint. Lotsa pressure. Some could handle it most of the time, some not so much. I’ve seen guys warm up who look like world-beaters but often end up losing. Similar to baseball in many ways.Concentration without tightening up, fine motor control, stay calm and away from emotion till after it’s over. Getting excited can bite you in the butt real quick.
keylargo
October 4th, 2009
1:15 am
RobfromSC
Good luck with recuperation. I hope you don’t have too much pain and the physical therapy gets you back to normal soon.
Jurrjens4NLCY
October 4th, 2009
1:22 am
Matt Diaz, JJ, Escobar, Prado, and Eric O’Flarity’s contracts are all up. How much do you think they make (respectively)?
nolie
October 4th, 2009
1:23 am
and the physical therapy gets you back to normal soon. (KL)
PT is a bitch Rob. I broke both shoulders at one time and thought I was gonna be a cripple forever. Way more pain than the actual breaks overall.
nolie
October 4th, 2009
1:24 am
contracts are all up (JJ)
what do you mean by ‘all up’ ?
nolie
October 4th, 2009
1:29 am
(JJ)
any time you want to know how much a player makes just go to Cot’s Contracts site.bookmark this
http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005_01_15_mlbcontracts_archive.html
Jurrjens4NLCY
October 4th, 2009
1:41 am
No no. I know what Cots Contracts is, but here is my question:
Diaz and Moylan are arbitration eligible; how much do you think they will make?
JJ, Escobar, Prado, and Eric O’Flarity’s contracts are done, meaning, they don’t have contracts. But they are not free agents because they don’t have enough service time. They HAVE TO sign with the Braves (unless the Braves don’t offer them contracts).
SO, What do you think they will sign for?
If I’m Wren, I’m locking JJ up in a 6 yr. deal, like Brian McCann did. Just blow past his arbitration years. I’ve already seen enough of him to know his future is bright.
Ross
October 4th, 2009
1:43 am
Jones has 17 RBI after the 6th inning. He’s 0-for-forever here at the end. He batted .230 in September and the same all year in the late innings. This has to be a bigger waste of cash than blowing it on Hampton’s hangnails. Yet still no one in Brave world dare speak the unspeakable – Larry C Jones sucks, as a leader, as a clutch player, and as a baseball player period. He has no heart.
brian
October 4th, 2009
1:43 am
DOB – I surely hope you can see U2. They were absolutely incredible in Raleigh tonight. The opening act Muse was solid as well. Great show.
DAP
October 4th, 2009
1:49 am
ross, you are clueless.
Jurrjens4NLCY
October 4th, 2009
2:14 am
Ross,
Who do you think is the smartest baseball player in the Majors?
I’ll give you a clue; It’s not a Cardinal, Twin, or a Marlin.
In fact, its a toss up between Ichiro and Chipper…
He is a great leader, and one of the smartest ballplayers in baseball. If you can’t see that, I can’t help you. While he has struggled this year, his presence is still great than that of a replacement player…
nolie
October 4th, 2009
2:33 am
If I’m Wren, I’m locking JJ up in a 6 yr (JJ)
that ain’t likely to happen. It would be very surprising if Boras allowed him to give up arb and delay free agency.Wren might want to, but I bet it won’t happen.
as to the rest, who knows? Certainly nobody on here has a realist idea, just guesses.
Jurrjens4NLCY
October 4th, 2009
2:40 am
nolie,
I know, I know. Just wishful thinking…
I just really don’t want to see JJ pitching for the Yankees in 5 years.
nolie
October 4th, 2009
2:50 am
Diaz should get around 2mil don’t you think?
Yes it would be nice to sign Jair to an extended contract.
Jurrjens4NLCY
October 4th, 2009
3:56 am
Sorry, didn’t see ya reply…
I think he gets closer to 3M. KJ got around 2.8 for 2007.
And 2008 KJ < 2009 Matty
GermanBravesFan
October 4th, 2009
3:58 am
Wow… I hope this isn’t what Chipper had in mind when he talked about “taking something with them into the off-season”.
nolie
October 4th, 2009
4:16 am
think he gets closer to 3M (JJ)
you might be right. I should have said ‘at least’ 2 mil, but he could get a bunch more depending on offer/counteroffer amounts. they will likely try to paint him as a platoon player rather than fulltime which might keep it lower. Of course he might get traded in a deal for a more powerful bat??? One thing I feel sure about is that Wren will surprise us at least once this winter, maybe more often than that
Jurrjens4NLCY
October 4th, 2009
4:39 am
I don’t think they can trade him… at least until he signs.
If they can, they should trade Kelly Johnson and Ryan Church and all the other players they don’t want, but again, I don’t think they can trade ‘em because the players are contractually obligated to the team.
Another question:
(I’m so curious today, must be the last hours)
If the Twins and Tigers lose tomorrow, is their still a tiebreaker? Or does the division go to Detroit?
Because the Twins called this game a must win…
I thought they don’t have to win, just have the Tigers lose…
Rob from SC
October 4th, 2009
5:33 am
steve from OH
I am hurting
Rob from SC
October 4th, 2009
7:42 am
Jurrjens4NLCY
October 4th, 2009
1:07 am
Rob,
I didn’t know you had surgery…
How did it go???
Had the surgery on Thursday. The doctor told my wife it went well/ I am in serious pain.
Thanks fot the well wishes. Off to take more pills.
Braves win a game
JasonInFL
October 4th, 2009
7:52 am
I just heard from a Rangers’ beat writer that Washington isn’t a huge fan of Nelson Cruz at all. The guy has 30/30 potential and could flourish under Cox. I know others on here have mentioned him, but if he truly is out of favor in Texas; maybe the Braves should take a flier…
richbrave
October 4th, 2009
8:23 am
O.K. on CRUZ, but no trades. Maybe an outright buy of his contract. Had enough here of stocking the RANGERS with ML players.
richbrave
October 4th, 2009
8:25 am
ROB:
Heal up bud. And your last comment – that would be nice. I wouldn’t want to go out this way, would you?