Playoffs or not, Braves’ strong finish bodes well for future

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Tomas

September 30th, 2009
4:39 pm

Herschel Talker, LOL forgot about Norton, they should resign him to clean toilets on the dugout.

indianabravesfan

September 30th, 2009
4:40 pm

Derosa is on of them Jonathon cant think of the last one

Lew

September 30th, 2009
4:41 pm

Anders-Or we could just go ahead and keep him (which is what DOB was saying) and he comes back, wins 15-18 more games next year while giving us another 200 IP and gets his mechanics fixed, his sinker working again and lowers his ERA and WHIP to his normal levels.

I have no idea why you or anyone else is so concerned. It’s not as if we just saw Mark Redman or Chris Reitsma return to pitch for the Braves. Lowe and Kawakami may be a bit overpaid for their 09performances, but they are also part of the NL’s BEST starting rotation, for crying out loud.

Anders

September 30th, 2009
4:42 pm

Efrim- Thanks for clearing that up. Sounds like he might be better off taking the arbitration and hoping for a trade.

indianabravesfan

September 30th, 2009
4:42 pm

DeRosa was the other one with Caminiti, Pendleton, Chipper and Castilla

Mike S

September 30th, 2009
4:43 pm

Yea, I take it back. Caminiti never started on opening day. I looked it up and I’m guessing no one would have guessed this one:
Mike Mordecai started at 3rd in 1996 (Chipper missed the first four games), Derosa did in 2004, Castilla in 2002-3, and Chipper and TP for all the rest.

Jersey Gil

September 30th, 2009
4:43 pm

Bat Masterson …Miami Marlin signed Satchel Paige when Bill veek was running the Franchise, After the 1960 They Moved the Team to San Juan, Puerto Rico and they call the San Juan Marlin.

ncscoots

September 30th, 2009
4:44 pm

To me, there are too many things that one has to hope for [Lowe, Hanson, Hudson, Kawakami performing][without Vazquez as a part of the rotation]

Every possible negative scenario you describe has the same possibility of occurring, regardless of Vazquez’s uniform. Any of those bad things occur, and it won’t much matter whether Vazquez is in Atlanta or not.

YE19

September 30th, 2009
4:45 pm

Daybed Wagmoe,

Couldn’t agree more about Vazquez being the anchor-Gotta keep him. Well said.

Anders

September 30th, 2009
4:47 pm

Lowe and Kawakami may be a bit overpaid for their 09performances (Lew)

I think we’ve made breakthrough here but our time is up for this session. For our next session I’d like you to think about some of the positives that Minaya might have brought to the Mets from 2006 through 2008 when they had the best overall record in the NL. Maybe we can knock down that wall as well.

You should be proud of yourself. {:

RetiredSoldier

September 30th, 2009
4:51 pm

Great today DOB, lots to think about for next year. My two cents worth is eat the 10 mil with Lowe and package him, KJ, Diaz and Medlan and go after Braum of the Brewers. Sign Huddy to a 3 year deal and resign Roche.Schafer or Church in the corner till we bring up Haywood. Bench is good except for you know who! Bring back the relielf staff as is.

I think the future looks great for the Braves. Go Braves and Brewers!

Marc in FL

September 30th, 2009
4:51 pm

You guys need to share your psychic powers with me so I can hit the lotto tonight

Efrim

September 30th, 2009
4:52 pm

Efrim- Thanks for clearing that up. Sounds like he might be better off taking the arbitration and hoping for a trade.

Anders, he really should of just shut his mouth and acted like he would consider Boston’s arbitration offer:

http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/red-sox/rob-bradford/2009/09/11/bradford-files-its-not-about-money-billy-wagner

If he did that, there is no way Boston would offer him it. They aren’t going to pay Wagner 8-10 million to set up for Papelbon. Then he’d obviously be sought after by many more teams.

Daslied

September 30th, 2009
4:54 pm

Daybed, rather than sign Nady for .280 and 17-20 HR, as you projected, why wouldn’t we just use Diaz?

Lew

September 30th, 2009
4:54 pm

scoots-Negative outcomes are simply a part of baseball reality. The questions needing to be answered are these-Will Hudson give you as good a performance than Vazquez? I’m thinking no-at least right off the bat, so to speak. Will Hudson give you better numbers than KK starting out next year? Much more likelihood of that happening.

You can’t weaken our rotation and expect to win unless we get a real boomer. Will Vazquez bring such a paragon in trade? I’m just not seeing it. Could Wren work out a trade for Kawakami and get (at the very least) some good bullpen help? Probably so.

Could he let Hudson walk and take the money and shore up all the holes we have by trading minor league pieces and spending Hudson’s money on lesser outfield help and re-signing La Roche? Absolutely- and that’s the way I’d go.

Jurrjens4NLCY - Fight Like A Moving, Counting, Believing Brave {UNTIL THE END!}

September 30th, 2009
4:55 pm

RetiredSolider,

That would cost the Braves about 120M dollars

ncscoots

September 30th, 2009
4:55 pm

Not having that conversation, Lew, LOL. Sorry.

Jonathon

September 30th, 2009
4:56 pm

Thanks, Mike.

Mike Mordecai – pride of the South Alabama Jaguars!

FEAR

September 30th, 2009
4:56 pm

RetiredSolider – I don’t think the brewers would go for that at all. I wouldn’t give up Diaz anyway.

Lew

September 30th, 2009
4:57 pm

Anders-I should be proud of what? That you take one single line completely out of context, draw conclusions far different from what was really said and act like I made it through some step from a twelve step program because it now sounds like I actually agreed with you on something?

cabravesfan

September 30th, 2009
4:58 pm

Herschel Talker-

Vinings Jim is unable to come to the computer…working

Marc in FL

September 30th, 2009
5:01 pm

If we don’t resign Hudson our rotation is still probably best the in the NL next year. Laroche is a gamble at best. All I know is we need a damn clean-up hitter next year. Sorry, but McCann is one of the best #5 hitters and one of the worst #4’s in the game.

Free Agency is almost always the worst place to get talent from, maybe we can trade for Fielder or something since the Brewers probably won’t resign him anyway.

Not attempting to keep both Gonzo and Soriano would be just plain crazy.

Jersey Gil

September 30th, 2009
5:01 pm

From the other Blog….Did you know the Original franchise of the Miami Marlin was the Richmond Braves Now the Gwinnett Braves.

RetiredSoldier

September 30th, 2009
5:05 pm

NLCY- OK, point taken, drop either MG or AS from the bullpen and move PM to the 8th inning. Bottomline we have to have some RH pop. Diaz is a great guy but will never provide the pop we need.

Bat Masterson

September 30th, 2009
5:05 pm

Yes he did, Jersey Gil, and it was no gimmick. On Aug. 7th 1956 Satchel Paige pitched for the largest crowd to see a minor league game, 57,000 at the Orange Bowl. For anyone interested in Paige’s legend, or the history of the game, I highly recommend ” Satchel, The Life and Times of an American Legend”, Larry Tye. In 1968, while a “pitching coach/ trainer” with the Braves, 68 year old Paige pitch a couple of innings for the AAA club, in an exhibition game with Braves. He induced Hank Aaron to pop up to third on 3 pitches. Satchel Paige, one of the top 3 maybe 4 pitchers of all time.

Herschel Talker

September 30th, 2009
5:06 pm

cabravesfan: That sucks. Vinings Jim is a swell guy. Good guy to have around these parts.

J Clay

September 30th, 2009
5:06 pm

I am not thrilled with Chipper Jones coming back. He is the single worst regualr on the team this year. They would be in the playoffs without him. For all his talk about sure outs earlier in the season he is it – last night another perfect example Prado hustles to get on to start the ninth and ole Chipper waves into a momentum killing double play. Retire already.

Daybed Wagmoe

September 30th, 2009
5:06 pm

Daslied at 4:54pm — I was imagining an outfield of Nady in LF, McLouth in CF, and Diaz/Church in RF. So, Nady would be in addition to Diaz.

Anders

September 30th, 2009
5:06 pm

Lew -Please be quiet. I have Mr. Lentz in here.

Go ahead Paul. We were discussing how all those morons on the blog can’t keep up with you…

monty

September 30th, 2009
5:10 pm

$45,000,000 over the next 3 years for Lowe is just too much for what you get in return and really straps FW from improving the team. Is anyone really going to be satisfied with Lowe going 10-15 his last 2 seasons here? I honestly believe that KK or even Medlen if given the chance(s) in the next 3 years would win more games than Lowe would over the same time period! Cut your losses now!

Anders

September 30th, 2009
5:11 pm

BTW- Jose Reyes still has discomfort in his leg. They’re now considering surgery after 3 months on the shelf. Keith Hernandez in his classic sarcastic tone said the whole issue has become like “Hamlet”. Too true.

CB

September 30th, 2009
5:12 pm

Marc in FL, LaRoche is a gamble? .275 25hr is not a gamble, good player that we need to keep. You need to think before typing.

jeffrey d

September 30th, 2009
5:13 pm

this push helped the Braves push their way back into our hearts again.

The Braves are already in my heart, win or suck.

Big John

September 30th, 2009
5:14 pm

And the last two weeks, with the Braves trying to pull off the miracle comeback, Chipper Jones has hit .311, his on-base percentage is .436, he has slugged .511.

Chipper haters—ESAD!

CB

September 30th, 2009
5:14 pm

Anders, it does not speak well of you to be alone with Paul. :-)

Rock On......

September 30th, 2009
5:15 pm

So DOB…noticed in your blog that Hudson has been annointed with the start on Sunday. If it is a must win game I bet that changes.

You might not get a huge bat for KK alone but paired with another player you may get one good enough for our needs. Especially since it has been noted how little we really need other than another solid power bat to hit 4th. If the thinking is that Heyward will be ready to man RF and produce we need very very little agreed.

Excellent blog by the way but trading Vazquez would have to be a last ditch effort by a desparate Wren to acquire a big bat. A decision that would not sit real well with many of the fans I am certain.

I agree that this team is playing well and capable of playing well for a full season. As I noted earlier we should have 5 starters to begin the season in 2010 that we didn’t have in 2009 if Heyward is in RF. Big difference without adding any FA or trade as it is. Tweak this team a little and we are extremely solid.

Soph

September 30th, 2009
5:16 pm

The Braves are already in my heart, win or suck.

Hey, they were in my heart too and they always have been. But, you have to admit there were some interesting new people on here for the past week. They’re all gone now.

Big John

September 30th, 2009
5:17 pm

Here’s something about Bobby Cox that I find amazing: In the Braves’ 14-season playoff run, 1991-2005, the Braves had nine different pitchers who had 15 or more saves in a season. They had six pitchers BESIDES the Maddux-Glavine-Smoltz trio who won 15 or more games in a season. They had 17 players who hit 20 or more homers, and 10 players who stole 20 or more bases and 13 players who hit .300 or better in a full season.

I think this only begins to tell you just how good a manager Bobby Cox has been. The Braves always SEEMED the same, but they never really were the same. They had seven different Opening Day catchers in the playoff run, nine different first basemen, seven different second basemen, four different shortstops, and so on. The Braves even had five different Opening Day third basemen, even with Chipper Jones (you will remember he moved to the outfield for a while).

Looking back it seems clear: The Braves’ apparent consistency was an optical illusion, a magic trick, pulled off by three great pitchers and a manager who, perhaps better than anyone in baseball history, understood the rhythms and quirks of a long baseball season.

Cox Haters ESAD too.

jeffrey d

September 30th, 2009
5:18 pm

.275 25hr is not a gamble, good player that we need to keep.

It’s a gamble when his .053 first half has to be recovered by his .576 second half. We have to remember that the LaRoche we know and love right now will not be the same LaRoche next April.

jeffrey d

September 30th, 2009
5:19 pm

Soph I never checked to see if you answered my question – when you passed out “Believe” sheets to your coworkers yesterday were they MFIKY Believe or regular Believe?

RetiredSoldier

September 30th, 2009
5:19 pm

Rock on-

Agree about JV, he must stay. We have three starters with under 3 ERA’s. Wow, why would anyone consider breaking that up.

Chop Chop

September 30th, 2009
5:19 pm

jeffrey d,

In fact, the 2009 Atlanta Braves have basically played like Adam LaRoche.

Anders

September 30th, 2009
5:20 pm

Frenchy crushed another one. With the blown up view it appeared to just get out but not with the normal view. I guess the umps don’t have the enhanced view. They ruled it a double. Anyway, I’m not worried abouy RF anymore.

Marvin

September 30th, 2009
5:21 pm

And that’s one I my favorite (obscure) Who tunes!

jeffrey d

September 30th, 2009
5:21 pm

Astute observation, Chop Chop.

jeffrey d

September 30th, 2009
5:22 pm

Anyway, I’m not worried abouy RF anymore.

sigh…..

Rock On......

September 30th, 2009
5:22 pm

I think it goes without saying that nobody can turn “Nortonesque” on us in 2010 or at least very few starters if we want to make the WS or playoffs. Agreed with Scoots it won’t matter who is pitching.

P-Town Brave

September 30th, 2009
5:22 pm

Ok so not saying this as an EXACT example, BUT I wouldn’t trade Javy for anything short of a Prince Fielder type bat

Piedmont Blues

September 30th, 2009
5:24 pm

Anders,

Not worried about RF anymore? From your lips to Omar’s (or whoever’s the GM’s) ears. Lock him up long-term!!

boonie27

September 30th, 2009
5:24 pm

Would ya’ll be willing to trade Javy for Derrek Lee?

RetiredSoldier

September 30th, 2009
5:26 pm

boonie-

No! Enough said.

CB

September 30th, 2009
5:27 pm

jeffrey d, nice numbers you threw out there- would you mind telling me your source? Ok, he hits better the second half- still a very good hitter and good defense. He is not a gamble.

Soph

September 30th, 2009
5:29 pm

It was the regular believe signs. I was supposed to pass out the MFIKY signs today if they won yesterday. Too bad, I was really looking forward to it.

P-Town Brave

September 30th, 2009
5:30 pm

Boonie-

If we’re trading Javy for anyone, it can’t be for aging players who have lost some pop in their bat.

Besides, I wouldn’t see the Cubs having any interest unless we took Soriano back from them as Javy has already taken a tour of the much “easier” side of Chi-town and it didn’t work very well.

P-Town Brave

September 30th, 2009
5:32 pm

Soph-

We’d rather you go to Denver and pass out Chilli with that “special” added ingredient to the Rockies starters ;-)

coach k

September 30th, 2009
5:33 pm

Pllllllllllllllllease start Infante over Mclouth for the final 5

BW

September 30th, 2009
5:36 pm

Those two blown saves in Colorado back in July sure do hurt a little more now, don’t they?

boonie27

September 30th, 2009
5:37 pm

I don’t want to trade Javy at all, but I just think someone like Lee, who has one year left on his contract, is the type player we would get back for Javy. Can’t me in the group that wants to keep our current rotation intact and trade KK for a reliever.

boonie27

September 30th, 2009
5:37 pm

Anders

September 30th, 2009
5:38 pm

Lock him up long-term!! (Piedmont)

That’s the beauty of it. Don’t have to.

monty

September 30th, 2009
5:38 pm

jeffrey d

You are grossly exagerrating LaRoches numbers, I guess to make a point, but you are just wrong and you need to stop. Adam slugged .564 this past MArch/April I would take that again next year wouldn’t you? Is he as good a hitter in the 1st half as he is in the 2nd half? No, but your acting like he’s going to pull a Frenchy on us and I don’t see that happening. MArk Texiera is a slow starter too but I think we’d all love to have him back with us, and Frenchy is a bargain compared to MArk.

jeffrey d

September 30th, 2009
5:38 pm

We need to pass out the MFIKY believe signs to the Rockies. They’ll be so scared they’ll throw their games

CB – It’s called exaggerating, you wet blanket. It’s a literary device sometimes used to help make a point. My point – LaRoche is a gamble because he will probably be a liability more often than not in the first half.

McFann Ô

September 30th, 2009
5:39 pm

YE19

You’re welcome!

Keep your boy fresh over the 162 game grind, without losing too much offense, while also providing a defensive upgrade. I know, I know. You hate to admit that’s possible, but facts are facts here.

Well, I don’t hate it…I mean…I do get in a sort of an annoyed, eye-rolling kind of a mood whenever Joe and Boog talk about how ssoR “isn’t afraid to throw to the bases” and all that… :roll: And how ssoR always said that BMac going to the World Baseball Thing Classic was the best thing that could have happened to him (David) because then he got to spend lots of time with all the new pitchers…anyway…

Let’s talk about something else:

Daybed Maybe it’s Brian McCann calling games.

I vote for that. ;) But don’t tell Random…

No, seriously…I liked what you said about him pitching for Bobby…and to BMac.

David O'Brien

September 30th, 2009
5:43 pm

Forgot to post lineup, but it’s same anyway.

1. McLouth
2. Prado
3. Chipper
4. McCann
5. Anderson
6. Escobar
7. LaRoche
8. Diaz
9. Vazquez

jake

September 30th, 2009
5:43 pm

It’s idiotic to even THINK about trading Vazquez. If the Braves are smart, they’ll bring all six of those starters. They need only refer to ‘08 to be reminded how fragile a staff’s health can be, and what havoc injuries can wreak. Trading Vazquez, arguably their best pitcher this year, for a 25-30 HR a year guy would be like giving up Angelina Jolie for Rosie O’Donnell. If the Braves play next year the way they have since June, they don’t need to do anything but show up and they’ll win their division. And if Heyward can make the jump, so much the better.

TnBrian (Vazquez ace 2010)

September 30th, 2009
5:44 pm

The Braves have Heyward and Freeman waiting around the corner, so maybe they can package KK with Schafer and another for a power hitting OF. I really don’t see the need for Hudson, so let him walk and make the KK/Schafer offer sweeter by agreeing to pay a portion of his remaining salary. By doing that, resigning LaRoche & and maybe one of the Gonzo/Soriano combo, they oughta have enough in the bank for that.

Steve from OH

September 30th, 2009
5:44 pm

And the last two weeks, with the Braves trying to pull off the miracle comeback, Chipper Jones has hit .311, his on-base percentage is .436, he has slugged .511. The story may not end with a Braves’ miracle. But it does seem like old times.

He sucks.

You people make me wonder sometimes…you’ve got a career .300/.400/.500 hitter (one of only 14 ALL-TIME) and you rip in to him for having a merely good instead of excellent season? Children, grow up.

Omar Minaya

September 30th, 2009
5:44 pm

I’ll give you Delgado, Santanta, and Frenchy for Greg Norton and Manny Acosta. Of course, Greg will need to agree to change his last name to Nortonez. I want my ‘10 starting lineup to read like a Puerto Rican phone directory.

P-Town Brave

September 30th, 2009
5:46 pm

Anyone else catch the Angels celebration after they won the AL West?

I haven’t gotten that choked up over something in quite awhile. The way the players all went out to the OF wall to pay their respects to their fallen teammate to the way they had his jersey in the clubhouse and one by one soaked it with champagne and beer…

I tip my hat to them as being an incredibly classy organization and it was a very moving moment for myself.

F-105 Thunderchief

September 30th, 2009
5:47 pm

I’d trade Kawakami for a good reliever, or a good-not-great hitter. I’d really love to see Vazquez, Jurrjens and Hanson over a full season.

ryan

September 30th, 2009
5:47 pm

I said back when we signed KK wondered how good was he sure if he was real good he would of been with Red Sox.

Steve from OH

September 30th, 2009
5:47 pm

In fact, the 2009 Atlanta Braves have basically played like Adam LaRoche.

Better not re-sign Roachy, then, as we know how these guys feel about the 2009 Braves…

jeffrey d

September 30th, 2009
5:48 pm

So now we’re comparing Adam LaRoche to Mark Teixeira. Okay…

My goodness you guys take things real seriously. I was just saying that if we get Adam LaRoche next year we have to brace ourselves because he’s not going to be the same Adam LaRoche we have now until July or so.

Monty – You’re talking like calling Adam LaRoche a slow starter is a completely retarded statement because he slugged over .500 this April. I’m not going to go searching for a bunch of numbers, but here’s what I found real quick:

April 2008: .163 Avg, .225 SLG
April 2007: .133 Avg, .265 SLG
April 2006: .200 Avg, .453 SLG

Get it? Now lighten up.

Anders

September 30th, 2009
5:48 pm

P-Town – I saw that and you’re right. It was very cool. I didn’t realize how much they had been including his family in things too. Definetly first class.

jeffrey d

September 30th, 2009
5:50 pm

That being said, and considering the other options, I think LaRoche is our best choice for 1B next year. Assuming he’s not plopped in that cleanup spot.

Anders

September 30th, 2009
5:50 pm

OK, so a Latino and Japanese attack in the last 10 minutes under nebulous names. Sounds like the AJC should seek and destroy. DOB?

P-Town Brave

September 30th, 2009
5:51 pm

Ok, so say we do get the bad half/good half Adam, why not try to pick up a Garrett Atkins whom Colorado will probably non-tender.

Would be a decent pickup considering he can play any IF position except SS AND could take over at 3b if Chipper does decide next year is the end.

The new logical idea would be to bring back DeRo simply bc he could start in LF AND really can play anywhere except CF, P or C.

Mr J

September 30th, 2009
5:52 pm

Vazquez has been fabulous, without a doubt, but this year has been far better than his average. Unless its the managerial genius of Bobby Cox that is helping him realize untapped potential, we have to consider that this might be a career year for Javy. Its likely he will never be this good again.

If you can get the player you want, trade him. Sell high.

Anders

September 30th, 2009
5:52 pm

Steve – You ready for some hockey? I am. I’ll be at MSG Saturday night for the home opener of my Rangers.

P-Town Brave

September 30th, 2009
5:52 pm

Anders-

Yes, I’m just waiting for the blog posts from Rev. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Maybe even one from Don Imus or Rush Limbaugh…

So sad some things ppl get their kicks out of these days…

Steve from OH

September 30th, 2009
5:53 pm

If we win 4 games out of our last 5 we’ll finish with 90 wins.

I’ll be extremely happy with that. Helluva turnaround from last year…

Steve from OH

September 30th, 2009
5:54 pm

Anders–I’m playing tonight. But unfortunately, the only pucks I get on tv here are either the Blue Jackets or whatever’s on the BS Versus channel. But yeah, I’m pumped.

jeffrey d

September 30th, 2009
5:54 pm

So sad some things ppl get their kicks out of these days…

Well it’s not like these guys were composing symphonies right before they got on here.

jeffrey d

September 30th, 2009
5:55 pm

Steve – Which hockey team do you follow?

McFann Ô

September 30th, 2009
5:57 pm

Thanks for the lineup, Chief.

P-Town Brave re: the Angels celebration–

I didn’t see that–but that’s really cool. Seems like that was a really long time ago that he passed away…

But I’ll have to look for that video. Very classy.

ChipperFan

September 30th, 2009
5:57 pm

RC,

It stands for Mother F*cker I Kill You

Anders,

No longer concerned about RF? You should be more concerned about RF than you are about your rotation. Even when he “raked” his first 2 years, he was an out machine. You’ll regret those words, I’m sorry to say.

My vote on the pitching situation for next year is that if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. The only true excess is Kawakami, who’s our 6th starter/long relief guy, a role that Medlen can fill more than adequately. Kenshin should be traded for the best available deal. Hudson should be re-signed to an extension with a lower average annual salary (say, 3 years for $24m) which would prove to be a bargain in the end. Vazquez should be kept for obvious reasons, including his rather favorable contract at $11.5m. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

I’m hoping Wren is able to pull off a deal for a big bat to play 1B or LF. This would save us the hefty sum that LaRoche would require, and finally give us a true cleanup hitter, which in turn takes heat off of Chipper by providing him protection in the lineup, and off McCann as he can then hit fifth. Not sure who this would be, but I know at least Derek Lee and Prince Fielder are going to be dangled. The right mix of prospects and Kawakami could be enough, maybe. Can’t include Freeman, though….

It’ll be a very interesting offseason, that’s for sure. Frank Wren has earned my trust to get it done and give us a shot at the World Series next year.

Also, let’s not forget we still have an outside shot at it this year. Go Braves and Brewers tonight!

AustinBrave

September 30th, 2009
5:57 pm

Jake- I agree with you. We need to keep all of our pitchers. We could always send KK to the pen or Lowe could be the closer. We have some young arms in Medlen, Reyes, for trade bait. We are losing about 15 mil off of payroll, with Soriano, Gonzales, Kelly, Church gone. We can buy a free agent. We will be hard to beat with a number 4 guy.

jeffrey d

September 30th, 2009
5:58 pm

Think I’ll plop down and watch some of The Office before the game…I’m exhausted. I’ll be back later.

David O'Brien

September 30th, 2009
5:59 pm

On pressbox wag just noted that if Braves lose tonight, Fred Hickman and the fellas are going to change those lapel stickers to “Bereave.”

P-Town Brave

September 30th, 2009
6:00 pm

ChipperFan-

Like I eluded to, Fielder should be available.

Have any interest?

CB

September 30th, 2009
6:03 pm

wjones

September 30th, 2009
6:04 pm

“There are a lot more Bobby bashers than people think. They were sitting all around us at the game last night and I just sat there listening. I really see things turning around as far as fan interest goes in 2011 but if the Braves are smart they hire a manager that is not part of this cast now. New face is what this city is ready for.”

Yeah, I remember how great the attendance was BEFORE Bobby I and after, when we were changing new managers every year or two, always getting a “new face”. Buying dugout seats at 6:45! No need to reserve. I’m surprised they just didn’t sell them as general admission tickets.

The dealing of one of our starters is an interesting topic, and I believe the market will drive this deal a lot. The Braves have a Starting Pitcher Store, and GM’s will visit the store, do some shopping, and try to barter with the store owner. Or maybe a better analogy is a car dealership. But plenty of teams will have holes in their rotations, and KK, Lowe, Hudson, and Vazquez are very nice pieces to have.

CB

September 30th, 2009
6:05 pm

jeffrey d,your exaggeration was met with my sarcasm. Call me a wet blanket again, and I will call you PL. :-)

David O'Brien

September 30th, 2009
6:05 pm

Poll added to original blog. Voter fraud encouraged. (I’d say to vote early and often, but I can’t figure out how to fix the poll where you can vote more times. I’m still trying to figure that out.)

ChipperFan

September 30th, 2009
6:06 pm

P-Town,

You’d have to be out of your mind not to look into it, if he’s available. You gotta calculate what he’ll be making in arb (I’m sure it’s a ton), but keep in mind you’re unloading a contract and saving yourself loot you’d have needed to re-sign LaRoche, so may be doable. Who would Milwaukee ask for in return? Would Kawakami + prospects be enough? I’d think they would start off asking for both Vazquez and Freeman, and it would be hard to complete the deal without including either one…What do you think?

Another thing:
Whether or not there’s any trade of FA signing, I’ll tell you this much: NO WAY the Braves pay both Gonzo and MFIKY. I’d love to see us keep one of them so we’ve got a reliable, proven closer…but hell freezes over before Wren antes up for both of ‘em.

David O'Brien

September 30th, 2009
6:09 pm

Rock On: Hudson hasn’t been “anointed” with anything “on my blog,” as you put it. I merely gave you the scheduled starters, as the Braves have given us. If you’d like, I’ll put tentative after his name, even though they didn’t say that was tentative. (Actually, I won’t do that. I’m just making a point.)

Daybed Wagmoe

September 30th, 2009
6:10 pm

Check out Buster Olney’s video blog from this morning: http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4519051&categoryid=2521705

It’s worth watching for three reasons:

1) He makes it sound like about 2/3rds of the closers in baseball will be changing teams this year, and he says the Braves are one of the two teams (Marlins are the other) that need to go out and get an experienced, established closer. Interesting.

2) He also gives some props to Vazquez, calling him “one of the best pitchers in baseball this year.” Also interesting.

3) CHECK OUT HIS HAIRCUT!!! It looks like he had to leave all of a sudden in the middle of getting it cut, and the barber barely had time to take the bowl off his head! Hahahaha!!

CB

September 30th, 2009
6:12 pm

Daybed, I believe that is a comb over.

OldBravesBag

September 30th, 2009
6:14 pm

Wonder if Kelly will ever sniff Turner Field again? Kinda strange that someone with power potential, speed, and the ability to take a walk would have zero value for the Braves right now. He must be POISON or something….

McFann Ô

September 30th, 2009
6:14 pm

Just watched the video of the Angels…very touching.

If the Braves miss out on the WS and the Angles make, I’m totally pulling for them. :)

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