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You are all Cox apologists
October 1st, 2009
9:04 am
EXACTLY WHAT THEY DESERVED,
All of those gutless, inept efforts finally came back to hunt the Braves. They wait until late September to mount a so-called playoff run when they should have been playing like this all year.
That streak of winning 15 of 17 was due to the Braves playing without any pressure. As soon as they closed to within 2 games, they did what you would expect any Cox lead team to do, CHOKE!
Bobby will be back in 2010 which means more GUTLESS baseball. Good luck BLOG IDIOTS and COX APOLOGISTS, you deserve to be miserable because you continue to support this bullsh*t.
2010=another Cox FAILURE, mark it down.
jeffrey d
October 1st, 2009
9:05 am
YACAA’s back!
Mitchie-san
October 1st, 2009
9:05 am
P. W. Hjort, jeffrey d,
Let that be the last time Reitsma’s name is mentioned on this blog. I just got sick to my stomach…
jeffrey d
October 1st, 2009
9:06 am
oops, too many ‘A’s
bravofan
October 1st, 2009
9:07 am
Gotta hand it to Brian to avoid the tag and avoid the dp and keep the play alive that kid loves to play and never gives up unlike others………CHIPPER!!!!!!!!
jeffrey d
October 1st, 2009
9:08 am
Mitchie – R$&@*!$ is not even the worst Braves closer this decade. Compared to K!*& and W*$&#^% he was like Smoltz.
Reality Checker From Denver
October 1st, 2009
9:09 am
Hey, you guys are still “ALIVE”, wouldn’t it be a good idea to wait until actual elimination before you start the Yankee-Fan Like Perpetual Fantasy Obsession with ALL those free agents? Now will the thoughts continue non-stop to the point where sleep patterns are impacted? I read quite a few of these baseball blogs and I can honestly say this one may be the most delusional of all. It’s incredible how EVERY free agent in MLB wants to play in Atlanta. What is equally incredible is the evident truth that for some reason they all go elsewhere. Very talented home grown talent already in Atlanta and on the way to Atlanta, BUT I’m just not seeing this perception that Atlanta, Georgia is THE destination any more for Top Caliber guys.
Well, sorry to intrude. I’ll let you guys get back to posting numbers, describing who would look good in a Braves uniform and how all Braves management need do is make a call to turn this into a perennial dynasty.
Mitchie-san
October 1st, 2009
9:10 am
true…true….
TN Jeff
October 1st, 2009
9:11 am
All the complaining about the fans not coming out to the games. The Braves SUCK at home. They are 3 games over 500 at home and 11 games over on the road. WHY? Been saying for years this team needs to see a sports pyschologist – bunch of head case, choking losers.
Matt Diaz “is our best baserunner” – now there’s an indictment on the crappy coaching by this staff. Nobody on this team knows how to run the bases and it bites us in the rear in crucial moments. Get thrown out being aggressive at home plate NOT being an idiot at 3rd base.
EVERYTIME Braves tease us fans into thinking they might do something special they pull the rug out from under us. Every crucial game it seems that Chipper has a monumentally costly error – last night no exception. And now we get to add his anemic bat (batting 3rd no less) to his CHOKING example as the team leader.
Mitchie-san
October 1st, 2009
9:13 am
“ALL those free agents”? I think there was only ONE mentioned as an example in the past 12 hours or so.
Jim
October 1st, 2009
9:17 am
The blog title by DOB is what I would rather focus on. The Braves are not quite good enough to win a playoff spot but they are going to be a contender next year for sure. Let’s face it, could you see the 2009 team going deep into the playoffs the year? I could not. I am also looking forward to seeing Heyward and possibly Schafer break into the lineup next year too. Hopefully those two guys can bring some of the speed and power that this team has lacked for most of the season.
You are all Cox apologists
October 1st, 2009
9:24 am
SIX changes the Braves should make or should’ve made for 2010:
1. Bobby shouldn’t have been extended 1 more year, doesn’t deserve it.
2. Need to add power at the corner OF positions
3. Hudson, K. Johnson, Norton, Acosta, Reyes shouldn’t be Braves in 2010
4. Re-sign Soriano and Gonzalez-tell me who’s better?
5. Fire TP
6. Get a REAL leadoff hitter, McLouth just isn’t.
Salamander
October 1st, 2009
9:24 am
Man, I am glad I went out last night instead of watching the final 3 innings of the game… Wow, ugly way to lose.
Just good enough to break your heart.
jeffrey d
October 1st, 2009
9:28 am
Good call, YACA (bless you!) It’s almost too easy…
Steve from OH
October 1st, 2009
9:31 am
Good luck BLOG IDIOTS and COX APOLOGISTS, you deserve to be miserable because you continue to support this bullsh*t.
Wait, we’re miserable? I daresay you need to look in the mirror, sir. I mean, ranting about Cox seems to be the sole obsession of your life…what’s more miserable than that?
"jeffrey d"
October 1st, 2009
9:32 am
At least he quit putting his name in quotes.
You are all Cox apologists
October 1st, 2009
9:34 am
WHAT MAKES YOU SO SURE?
I am reading a LOT of posts from individuals who feel the Braves have already QUALIFIED for the 2010 playoffs! HA!
UM, As long as Cox is the manager, you should ALWAYS expect the Braves to UNDERACHIEVE.
Give me 1 REASON, just one REASON to believe otherwise or that things will be drastically different next year.
Extending Cox another year will SET THIS FRANCHISE BACK 3-5 YEARS, trust me. It’s obvious to anyone NOT an IDIOT or Cox APOLOGIST that his tactical errors cost our team at least 10-15 wins, I HONESTLY believe that.
Well, GO ON and KEEP HOPING. On September 1, 2010, let’s see how GREAT Cox is then. I’m willling to bet we will be either out of the playoff race or struggling to get in it when we should have been leading the WC or NL East all along. You guys are SAD. Too bad BOOBIE COX will be back in 2010, it’s the same movie over and over again. You ALREADY know how it will end. Like in N8 says, IS IT 2011 YET?
Steve from OH
October 1st, 2009
9:34 am
At least he quit putting his name in quotes.
That should be a dead giveaway to Lentz…I mean, even yaaca figured out how to use the quotation marks properly. Ball’s in your court, Paul.
richbrave
October 1st, 2009
9:35 am
REALITY CHECK:
KMA, and please get one.
Steve from OH
October 1st, 2009
9:36 am
It’s obvious to anyone NOT an IDIOT or Cox APOLOGIST that his tactical errors cost our team at least 10-15 wins, I HONESTLY believe that.
And because of that particular belief (10-15 wins? WTF?) I honestly believe that you are terribly misguided. And and idiot.
Later haters.
"jeffrey d"
October 1st, 2009
9:37 am
I mean, even yaaca figured out how to use the quotation marks properly
Gesundheit.
Mitchie-san
October 1st, 2009
9:38 am
Im not miserable. I think this year was a success. Anytime you improve on something and can continue to improve, its successful. I would have liked it if the Braves made the playoffs, but still 90 wins is not a bad season. (if they get 90, that is.)
I know there are going to be a million posts about how Bobby cost us wins all over the place and we should have done better. I know there have been alot of questionable calls Bobby has made, but how many games did it cost us? 10 all year? Who out there really thinks this team is good enough to win 100 games or more?
And let it be said, I am NOT a Bobby appologist or supporter. I respect what the man has done, but at the same time I would like a change. So dont get all over me.
jeffrey d
October 1st, 2009
9:40 am
So if it weren’t for Bobby Cox, we’d have as many wins as the Yankees this year. Yeah, okay.
Blind Fan
October 1st, 2009
9:40 am
BELIEVE!
Were still in it!!!!!!!!!
Braves.com/believe
Believe!
You are all Cox apologists
October 1st, 2009
9:41 am
STEVE FROM OH,
Cox is the MAIN problem with this team. The WHOLE Braves PHILOSOPHY is STALE and they definitely NEEDED to go in a different direction for 2010 regarding the management of this team.
I’m sorry I can’t provide you any other STAT other than 1 out of 14. You’re a PUNK and a stat geek. I’m a REALIST and not a Cox apologist as yourself.
By the way, I’m not misearable, I am just baffled by YOU and the OTHER blog IDIOTS.
Additionally, GO TO HELL. Who appointed you as the AJC blog police? NERD!
richbrave
October 1st, 2009
9:42 am
Mitchie-san:
CHARLIE MORTON set me to thinking, and PRINCE FIELDER sent me to the newspaper to check on stats. While I was perusing the box scores, I spied JOHN SCHURHOLTZ’s son’s line with the SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS. So I scoured the papers for former BRAVES to see what they were up to. I’ll get back to you on that.
Blind Fan
October 1st, 2009
9:43 am
Believe!!!!!!!
gcs
October 1st, 2009
9:44 am
Can anyone explain to me why Ryan Church (.272) has had ONE at bat since 9/16 yet Greg Norton (.133) has had six in that same time???
.
richbrave
October 1st, 2009
9:46 am
Not an apologist:
Why post here when you obviously don’t live in NIRVANA? We don’t like reality. Go away. Besides, BOBBY COX is going to be in an ATLANTA uni for one more season no matter who likes it, or doesn’t.
Signed
MAJOR APOLOGIST.
You are all Cox apologists
October 1st, 2009
9:47 am
Bobby Cox is PERFECT! Just look at how he got us back into the PLAYOFF RACE. It’s too bad we won’t make it because with Cox, the Braves are UNSTOPPABLE. Cox should have been extended to 2020, I LOVE COX. You guys must have forgotten about those 14 STRAIGHT DIVISION TITLES!
I think Cox is PERFECT and he should MANAGE the Braves until he dies. He has NEVER made a MISTAKE and his teams ALWAYS battle hard. So what that we’ll MISS the PLAYOFFS for the FOURTH CONSECUTIVE season. Cox is my GUY and he can do WHATEVER he feels like. Cox for PRESIDENT in 2013.
"jeffrey d"
October 1st, 2009
9:48 am
Nate Schierholtz is not related to John Schuerholz.
PMC
October 1st, 2009
9:49 am
I hope they keep Vazquez and Huddy. They need all the starting pitching they can get. An actual legit clean up hitter and a true leadoff man would fix most of the teams ills at the plate provided they pickup some plate dicipline along the way.
I’m not sure it’s that big a loss to lose Soriano or Gonzo. They are decent but neither one is world class and neither one is durable.
They have to keep the starting pitching though and unless the trade offer was ridiculous I wouldn’t trade any of them.
Mitchie-san
October 1st, 2009
9:49 am
Umm, Richbrave. I am not sure if you are messing with me, but Nate Schierholtz is not his son. His quit baseball a few years ago…
Mitchie-san
October 1st, 2009
9:49 am
*his son
Blind Fan
October 1st, 2009
9:50 am
1. Keep Cox, TP
2. Resign Norton- he’s due
3. Resign the Pen and Hudson- Focus on Pitching
4. wait on Heyward. Use Brandon Jones,McLouth, and Church until then
5. 2010 WS Ring- Cox leaves as a champion and everyone loves him.
jeffrey d
October 1st, 2009
9:50 am
YAACA – Most people on here will agree that it’s time for Bobby to go. The excessive dedicating your entire blog existance to complaining about him is getting out of hand.
Wayne in Utah
October 1st, 2009
9:51 am
Ryan Church has had back issues the past 6 weeks, and didn’t I hear that he was away from the team for a while due to his wife being close to having a baby?
Lovin me one more year of Bobby!
richbrave
October 1st, 2009
9:52 am
Nope didn’t realize two people in America would be playing ML level baseball with that similar a spelling. The paper had it abbreviated. Thanks. I won’t research that one.
Blind Fan
October 1st, 2009
9:54 am
I can’t wait to get a bucket of fried chicken and watch Braves. BELIEVE!
BBBBBBBBBBelieve
jeffrey d
October 1st, 2009
9:54 am
Now Blind Fan’s 8:50 is much better than “BOOBY NEEDS 2 GOOOO!!!!!” Very funny and clever.
richbrave
October 1st, 2009
9:55 am
You are all COX apologists:
Bobby Cox is PERFECT! Just look at how he got us back into the PLAYOFF RACE. It’s too bad we won’t make it because with Cox, the Braves are UNSTOPPABLE. Cox should have been extended to 2020, I LOVE COX. You guys must have forgotten about those 14 STRAIGHT DIVISION TITLES!
I think Cox is PERFECT and he should MANAGE the Braves until he dies. He has NEVER made a MISTAKE and his teams ALWAYS battle hard. So what that we’ll MISS the PLAYOFFS for the FOURTH CONSECUTIVE season. Cox is my GUY and he can do WHATEVER he feels like. Cox for PRESIDENT in 2013.
Now you’re gettin’ down with the program. Thank you for FINALLY getting the message. Clarity revealed.
Signed,
MAJOR APOLOGIST
P. W. Hjort
October 1st, 2009
9:55 am
You are all Cox apologists -
Do you know how annoying you are? Because I’m sure if you did, you would make a conscious effort to be less annoying. And I know you’re not doing that, because it’s impossible for someone to make a conscious effort to not be annoying and actually be as annoying as you are. Carrot Top tried it. He failed.
Blind Fan
October 1st, 2009
9:57 am
Blog too negative.
Last series of season and we’re not mathematically out of this.
For crying out loud, BELIEVE.
richbrave
October 1st, 2009
9:57 am
P.W.Hjort:
I think these guys funny as “H.” They just want to play. Let’s.
David O'Brien
October 1st, 2009
10:01 am
Heath, I have a Sony Blu-ray player. Got it last winter. It’s great. But thanks.
Daslied
October 1st, 2009
10:07 am
Man, what a tough loss last night. It did end better than it looked like it would, though. So there’s a positive. Here’s another:
Right now it looks like Atlanta will finish with about the 9th best record in baseball. Last year they tied for the 6th worst (or 24th best).
Of course, Milwaukee could finally win one and Atlanta and LA could both sweep. That’d be pretty great…
RHR
October 1st, 2009
10:07 am
While I was perusing the box scores, I spied JOHN SCHURHOLTZ’s son’s line with the SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS. So I scoured the papers for former BRAVES to see what they were up to. I’ll get back to you on that.
I bet Nate Schierholtz will be surprised to learn that he’s John Schuerholz’s son. Jonathan Schuerholz will probably be equally surprised that he’s still in baseball.
David O'Brien
October 1st, 2009
10:08 am
Driver8: Sounds like Rays will almost certainly pick up the $10 mill option on Carl Crawford for next season, if they don’t sign him to an extension first. They’d be nuts to let him go when they can have him for $10 mill next season.
As it relates to Braves, you should presume Braves will focus on right-handed power bats, not another lefty. They’re serious about getting a right-handed bat, from what I hear. Not lefty.
David O'Brien
October 1st, 2009
10:11 am
Oh, and Driver 8: Who doesn’t love Chone Figgins’ game and think he could help their team? But the Braves want to add a power bat, and he’s not that. He’s many things, but not a big power hitter.
RHR
October 1st, 2009
10:11 am
I’ll say it again, thank the lord it was Matty and not Chipper or Yunel. If that had to happen I’m glad it happened to a player that is so universally liked. Only Mitchell called him an idiot, everyone else who played the blame game blamed it on Prado or the 3B coach. Imagine if that had been chipper or Yunel or even Heap? The haters would have crashed this website in a minute flat.
Mitchie-san
October 1st, 2009
10:11 am
A right handed bat? Sweet. Let the speculations begin!
David O'Brien
October 1st, 2009
10:14 am
Mark in PA: Funny comment about the cow vis-a-vis the Braves’ home woes. Can you imagine some concerned Braves fans sneaking into the ballpark this offseason and taking down the cow, ala the Saddam statue? (Not suggesting it, mind you — let me repeat, not suggesting it. Nor comparing it to Saddam. So chicken-empire people, please don’t e-mail me or my bosses.)
DAP
October 1st, 2009
10:14 am
mitchie-san i agree with about half of your 10 points. as far as a closer goes, i dont like playing with that. i think nothing demoralizes a team worse than not being able to finish the game, and i dont like to leave that to chance. i think the brave at least have to pay for a closer. soriano, gonzalez, would both be fine…there are even a couple of guys that arent labeled as closers right now that could do a decent job, like isringhausen, cordero, a lyon.
Tomas
October 1st, 2009
10:15 am
I feel bad for Diaz, but nothing he could do when he started thinking about it. He would have made it I think if he just kept coming. Okay that’s history just try to finish the season with a sweep, and hopefully Colorado will lose them all, but thats out of Braves control.
RHR
October 1st, 2009
10:18 am
Can you imagine some concerned Braves fans sneaking into the ballpark this offseason and taking down the cow
Yes actually. I can imagine that. I may or may not already have a plan in place.
Soph
October 1st, 2009
10:18 am
I think Steve was right last night. The Braves should focus on trying to get to 90 wins. Yeah, they’d have to sweep the Nats but it’s possible.
RHR
October 1st, 2009
10:20 am
Maybe they’ll at least win the game FOX changed their schedule for.
jeffrey d
October 1st, 2009
10:20 am
Nah, let’s just go all out, throw in Norton and Conrad, and move up a draft spot.
Soph
October 1st, 2009
10:21 am
Oh yeah, I forgot about the FOX game. Well, nevermind then. 89 games.
Soph
October 1st, 2009
10:22 am
Nah, let’s just go all out, throw in Norton and Conrad, and move up a draft spot.
You forgot your boy, Kelly.
Mitchie-san
October 1st, 2009
10:23 am
there are even a couple of guys that arent labeled as closers right now that could do a decent job, like isringhausen, cordero, a lyon. DAP
That is more or less what I believe will happen. Its tough to tie up too much money in the closer buisiness. One of Gonzo or Soriano I can see, but not both. Expect to see a new arm or the one-two punch of Moylan/Gonzo. Soriano is going to be too expensive.
McFann O
October 1st, 2009
10:23 am
SouthernBelleBrave Its “Shoulda coulda woulda”.
‘Key-doke, thanks! It’s so confusing…
Soph Rally McT’s arms and legs are gone. Yikes.
As is his head…he’s hiding completely in his shell. Very sad…
Neight I always stay true to the NL when rooting for a WS winner.
I do, too, unless it’s a team I hate. Hmm…and looking at the teams that will most likely be competing for it…yuck…ew…gross…nasty…
Next group, please.
Wjones Look at [McCann's] numbers. Take into account his eye problems earlier in the year.
Exactly the way I look at it. Look, obviously we all wish his AVG was at least floating around the .290’s instead of the low .280’s, and y’all know the problem I have with those freakin’ 81 K’s…and he could use a few more doubles…but my point is: considering his position and the eye thing and all–not a bad year.
jeffrey d
October 1st, 2009
10:24 am
No I didn’t…we’re trying to lose here
McFann O
October 1st, 2009
10:24 am
Soph Oh yeah, I forgot about the FOX game. Well, nevermind then. 89 games.
DAP
October 1st, 2009
10:26 am
could the braves put together a package…perhaps including kawakami, to get joakim soria? he is really good, but is obviously under the radar playing in KC.
Daybed Wagmoe
October 1st, 2009
10:27 am
DOB — Perhaps it’s too early to tell, perhaps not. Do you envision the Braves going after one of the free agent RH power bats, i.e. Matt Holiday, Jason Bay, or Vladimir Guerrero? Or do you think they’ll go the trade route?
On a semi-related topic, do you see Marlon Byrd as a possible option? I know he’s not a big power bat, but he has hit 20 HR this year with 43 doubles. He’s a Type B free agent, and would likely be available. I wouldn’t think that he’d be on the Braves’ A list of possibilities, but perhaps as a backup option? (Backup acquisition option, not backup outfielder option.)
StingerSplash
October 1st, 2009
10:27 am
Driver 8,
You want to know what Fox really wants in the WS? They want the Red Sox-Yankees. Even if it’s impossible. They’d do Cubs-Sox/Yanks if they could only take the time to wipe the drool from their chins. But their holy grail is Sox-Yanks in the WS and doing whatever it takes to make that happen.
Soph
October 1st, 2009
10:28 am
Poor Rally. I know how he feels…well my arms, legs, and head aren’t hiding but emotionally I know how he feels.
No I didn’t…we’re trying to lose here
Um, exactly. He definitely knows how to do that.
Soph
October 1st, 2009
10:29 am
Ok, that was mean. I’m sorry, Kelly – I’m just bitter today. I really do like you.
gotigers72
October 1st, 2009
10:30 am
No doubt about it. Hudson needs to be traded. He is going downhill as far as a career goes. Don’t know if a legit power hitter can be had for Tim, but package him with a McClouth [who has been just terrible, swinging at more balls than strikes] or McClouth and KJ to go with Hudson to see if a power hitter can be crowbarred away from somebody. Maybe throw Medlen in there if the hitter is good enough.
Vazquez CAN NOT be traded. A legitimate ace for a couple of more years. Somebody to kind of guide Hanson and Jurrjens along until they are able to grow beards. My suggestion for a power hitter; Go ahead and bring Heyward up. I know the Braves are gunshy because of what happened to Schafer. However, Heyward is a different animal from Schafer. Give him about 40-50 games and if things don’t work out, send him down.
David O'Brien
October 1st, 2009
10:30 am
RHR, you asked last night: And whats the deal with trying to force us to blog on MB and now Jeff’s blog? Does DOB not want us anymore?
No, no, no. We’re like Wilco here — who loves you, baby? We love you. The Braves/MIB loves you.
Apparently, someone making the promo decisions doesn’t love us like they love Schultz. But hey, you and me and the rest of the denizens got each other, right? Are you with me? Good.
That’s all we need, baby. That’s all we need. Even if we’re just a little line down in the corner of the page some days, the denizens will find it and click on to our corner of the blogosphere.
And let me be clear: For that, we are extremely grateful.
Frankie Wren
October 1st, 2009
10:30 am
First priority for 2010(before deciding on LaRoche and who plays 1B)has to be finding a RH hitting outfielder with big bat, yes? I love Javy and he has been brilliant most of the year. He also has the most trade value. Dealing Javy seems to be the most sound way to improving your ball club and offensive production. JJ, Hanson, Huddy, Lowe and KK although not dominant still will give you chance to win if you have some pop in the lineup. Hudson is the key. If he returns to old self, not a bad option trotting behind JJ and Hanson. Javy had a career year and we still look like we will finish short this year.
McFann O
October 1st, 2009
10:31 am
Soph–
Rally appreciates the sympathy…boy, that one was rough.
well my arms, legs, and head aren’t hiding…
Haha…well, yeah. But sometimes I think it would be nice to be able to do so…
David O'Brien
October 1st, 2009
10:32 am
Daybed: I think those three hitters are too pricey as free agents for the Braves to pursue. At least that’s my thoughts on the matter right now, just from what I’m hearing from people. Braves seem more likely to go trade route if they’re going to get a big-name power hitter, since their minor league system is stocked again and they have a lot of pitching.
They have pieces to make a trade for a power hitter without committing to a lucrative free-agent deal for one. Remember, payroll’s likely to stay below $100 mill. Those few big-name free-agent hitters on the market will get big salaries because there are so few of them available this winter, and many more teams looking for a big bat.
McFann O
October 1st, 2009
10:36 am
And I certainly didn’t expect Nolasco to be that good…or maybe the Braves were just that bad. But sheesh…thought last night would be a good one, considering how good some of our guys are against that guy.
Worst game I’ve ever seen. Period, stop.
DAP
October 1st, 2009
10:36 am
daybed, the good thing about marlon byrd is that he is used to not playing every single day, so the braves could sign him a ride him until hewyard comes up, and then give him starts here and there. power really isnt the issue with byrd…he doesnt get on base much. plus, coming from a hitter park, you wonder if he will be the same. i personally like mike cameron slightly better…but both would be good options (they are both good defensively)
jeffrey d
October 1st, 2009
10:38 am
My arms, legs, and head are hiding.
Frankie Wren
October 1st, 2009
10:42 am
Any reason that JJ pitches his next start if they are eliminated? He’s hit 200 innings. I like to see Medlen with another start and curious what his role is with this team next year. Set up guy or 5th starter if they package somebody somehow in the back end of the rotation.
Soph
October 1st, 2009
10:45 am
Poor jeffrey too then. Wait…how are you typing? Liar.
Daybed Wagmoe
October 1st, 2009
10:48 am
DOB – Thanks for answering that.
DAP – Mike Cameron doesn’t seem like much of a better option to me, though I can see where you’d say they’re similar. Cameron, though, is 5 years older, strikes out a ton, and doesn’t hit for average. The two have just about the same career OBPs, and Cameron’s OPS isn’t much.
Hopefully, though, the Braves won’t have to go after either of them, because if they do, it’s probably a sign that they’re striking out on their A-list options. I wouldn’t see either as a primary target, but possibly as a backup acquisition in case they can’t get anyone else.
beekay
October 1st, 2009
10:49 am
If a team like the Yanks signs 3 type A free agent players and doesn’t lose one of their own, how do they figure out which picks they lose….if they lost 3 type A’s but signed 2 type b’s, do they get three first rounders but lose their 2nd rounder??? anyone know this stuff?
richbrave
October 1st, 2009
10:51 am
DOB:
I respect what you’re hearing, but I wish LIBERTY would push the payroll up above 100 million for at least two years and not trade pieces, and good farm prospects for the next two seasons. It would give the BRAVES the boost they need now, and allow for new players beyond these next two years. But bidness is bidness. So on we go.
P. W. Hjort
October 1st, 2009
10:52 am
I’ll make a suggestion. Carlos Quentin for Nate McLouth. The White Sox need a LH bat, the Braves need a RH bat. They’ve both preformed unfavorably this year (Quentin: .232/.319/.438, McLouth .259/.357/.408). Quentin’s performed worse given his defensive value at a corner isn’t as great as McLouth’s in center (even if neither is a good defender at their positions) and McLouth leads in wOBA (.349 to .331). But Quentin probably has the better contract. McLouth is guaranteed $4.5M in 2010 and $6.5M in 2011 with a $10.65M club option for 2012 with a $1.25M buyout. Whereas Quentin will be entering his first arbitration year. Quentin brings financial uncertainty, but less inherent risk.
McFann O
October 1st, 2009
10:55 am
Soph Poor jeffrey too then. Wait…how are you typing? Liar.
He’s just trying to get the sympathy vote.
Don
October 1st, 2009
10:56 am
Nothinb bodes well for the future – with Bobby Cox returning as Manager – The season is over before it begins — Only chance (like always) is if we could have pitching so far far superior to all the other teams that it overcomes Bobby Cox’s actions, and lack thereof as manager and enables us to win over the long 162 game regular season schedule.
Blaze Of Gory
October 1st, 2009
10:57 am
In the real world, the business world, the industrial world, the world where real people go to real jobs and actually perform a service or task to put bread on the table, a simple philosophy exists that measures success against failure.
You do good, you get an “atta boy!” You do bad, you get a “ah crap!”
“Atta Boys” are good, “Ah Craps” are bad.
It only takes one “Ah Crap” to wipe out a dozen “Atta Boys.”
Last night, the Braves got an “Ah Crap.” In fact, their offense has been pretty offensive since they returned home. What an embarrassing performance.
I personally didn’t expect the team to run the table and win the wild card, but I was hoping they would end this season in a blaze of glory rather than a blaze of GORY.
As Jed Clampett once said, “pityful…….just pityful!”
Ryan
October 1st, 2009
10:58 am
After tuesday and wednesday games Rockies magic # is 5. BRAVES lose 5-4 and 5-4 Rockies win 7-5 and10-5.
DAP
October 1st, 2009
11:00 am
looking through rosters trying to think of young right handed power hitting outfielders…
conor jackson? never hit more than 15 homers…juston upton would be awesome but he aint going anywhere…i dont see the sox trading quentin…the rays trading zobrist? i doubt it…
nolan reimold is a pretty good looking player…ryan raburn looks pretty good…i could go for hunter pence…id take kemp if we could pry him away…and there is always nelson cruz…
by the way…anybody see what juan rivera did this season? wren couldve had ‘em. many on the blog were calling for it. whoops!
Rock On......
October 1st, 2009
11:00 am
Mitchie-san…..IMO, your #10 and #9 points are extremely counterproductive. Let’s see, we are going to trade our #1 pitcher(2009) but sign a #5 making roughly the same amount of money all the while getting a 1st baseman in Fielder or a player his of ilk? Really, when we have LaRoche that we will definitely sign and Freeman who is 2 years away most likely. In effect you are getting rid of a stud 200+ innings pitcher that could easily be a Cy Young candidate this year for a two year rental of a Fielder type player. Not in my book. I’ll sign LaRoche and keep Vazquez not to mention we seemed to do just fine as one of the NL’s top teams after acquiring him. Also if you think the Braves will sign LaRoche for 3 years (I do) then why would you say you may see a Fielder trade coming. Confusing.
As for Heyward, if he is the best player for RF (time will tell)I think the Braves learned a valuable lesson this year. The games in April are just as important as Sept. The Arb clock on Heyward is a moot point. Missing half a season almost just to save a year or so on arbitartion to play someone in RF that is not as good is loser mentality. Assuming he is ready and wins the job the idea is to achieve your #1 point…the WS. I see the Braves starting Heyward in RF. We’ll see.
It is fun to play GM and what you say may happen no doubt. I agree with your points mostly.
RHR
October 1st, 2009
11:01 am
Gotcha DOB. Well, I’m in a fight with Bradley for jinxing the Braves with his “on the scene” bandwagon blogging
and Shultz is alright but eh. Besides, you’re in my favorites on this PC. Only at home do I forget to bookmark your section and it takes forever to find it sometimes. Maybe I’ll remember someday. I mean, my favorite time of year is coming up, “lets trade our worst guy for your best guy!” season. Woohoo!
Startled
October 1st, 2009
11:01 am
Sounds like Rays will almost certainly pick up the $10 mill option on Carl Crawford for next season, if they don’t sign him to an extension first. They’d be nuts to let him go when they can have him for $10 mill next season. — DOB
As someone who grew up on late ’60s-early ’70s baseball, I still have to read posts like the one above twice before I can begin to comprehend them. I hope Carl Crawford & Co. appreciates all that Curt Flood did for them. Wonder if they even know who Curt Flood is?
brian
October 1st, 2009
11:02 am
DOB – what right handed bats would you be looking at if you are Frank Wren? Can we get any of them without giving up Vazquez?
Rock On......
October 1st, 2009
11:03 am
Ryan….and the Rule of 64 is alive and well. Damn amazing how accurate that rule is and has been throughout baseball.
Piedmont Blues
October 1st, 2009
11:03 am
Downer Don,
*NOTHING* bodes well for the future? It’s a glorious fall day, my friend. Get out and enjoy it.
RHR
October 1st, 2009
11:06 am
Where’s my nolie, by the way?
McFann O
October 1st, 2009
11:07 am
RHR Well, I’m in a fight with Bradley for jinxing the Braves with his “on the scene” bandwagon blogging
Guess I oughta get on there and pick a fight with him for jinxing BMac when he declared him the NL MVP before the season even started…
wjones
October 1st, 2009
11:08 am
Interesting to see how the market is this year. Last year, we got Javy Vazquez for Tyler Flowers and Brent Lillibridge. To hear some on the blog, we are going to get this awesome, unnamed power bat for him, who will bat cleanup and get us to the World Series. Maybe we will, but I’m just saying….
DAP
October 1st, 2009
11:09 am
daybed, yeah i think they are similar. i could understand arguments for either one being better than the other. for instance, most of mike cameron’s career numbers have come in parks like seatlle, shea, and san diego. even miller park plays pretty fair, i think. marlong anderson was mediocre or just plain bad until he got to the hitting paradise of texas.
Daslied
October 1st, 2009
11:10 am
PWH – Are you assuming that Schafer will be in center, then?
I’m not sold on Quentin yet. He has a backwards split – much better against RHP (.857 OPS) than LHP (.776). I just get a 1999 Fernando Tatis-kind of feeling with him, I guess.
18 Wheels of Love
October 1st, 2009
11:14 am
DOB, check that new Alice in Chains.